general

[empty sky]

No

[crude anchor]

Why not Just add stop generation Button?

[empty sky]

A user token is used to automate a selfbot and a bot token is for actual bots and user tokens are bad

[empty sky]

Idk they just dont add that

[wicked talon]

It says "and ollama" though?

[empty sky]

And furthermore why didnt

[empty sky]

Yes it has ai

[wicked talon]

Ohh I understand

Ask it to use bot token.

[crude anchor]

Really, something so simple that solved the damn bug of "generating" infinitely.

[empty sky]

Yea

[crude anchor]

Yeah

[empty sky]

They also need to make the timeout like 13 hours

Or smth

[crude anchor]

Fr

[empty sky]

Idk about processing tho

[wicked talon]

13 hours is way too long.

[echo aurora]

We are currently experimenting with a Stop Button you can see it live on canary (https://canary.lmarena.ai/) cc @empty sky .

[vital lake]

Why would it be fake claude LMAO

[wicked talon]

Yeah true lmao

What benefit would arena have.

Also why are strategies blurred?

[shrewd citrus]

Hey @echo aurora what’s canary arena?

[echo aurora]

The canary site (https://canary.lmarena.ai) is basically a testing ground for new features. For some features in development we may release them here first, before adding to the regular site, to ensure it's working as intended.

[shrewd citrus]

ooh nice
is there like a list of what’s currently being tested?

[empty sky]

OMG IS IT HAVE 2 HOUR TIMEOUT

[empty sky]

Mistake

The timeout my dream

[echo aurora]

There is! We tend to keep the information about them vague and limitted as things can change with the experiments, but you can find the ongoing experiments here: https://help.arena.ai/collections/6672669378-experiments

[echo aurora]

What has a timeout?

[atomic lagoon]

https://youtu.be/vF3RVZsfQhg?si=wAeX5SQKOaAqujrk

Is this true?

I've watched this guy a bit but I'm not sure if what he says is realistic

[honest verge]

I hate gpt 5.x models

It sucks at UI

Simply overloading it

Every game becomes a website

And it just can't design

It's not even about games

[formal jungle]

Sorry been away for a while. Can we still generate videos here please?

[vernal storm]

Do you need developer?

[somber pine]

Gentlemen, I can't use any sand AI because I get an error, I try all the models and nothing. (And that's it, I tried another browser and nothing)

[dry tendon]

hey guys how can i use ai here

[echo aurora]

Hey @somber pine you'll want to review the steps in this message if you're getting this error: #1417174113092374689 message

[somber pine]

Ok, thanks bro

[echo aurora]

Nope, the Video Arena bot was removed from this server. You can access now through our site: https://arena.ai/video

[somber pine]

@pi

@echo aurora I had already tried deleting cookies and so on but it still doesn't work. Shall I send you a video?

[wicked talon]

Are you using a VPN or adblocker?

Also are you logged in and have you used it before it got the error in the same session or within 24 hours excessively.

[vital cove]

Do you need developer?

[wicked talon]

Hey everyone

[rigid copper]

halo

[carmine horizon]

hello, please who else is experiencing this? The direct chat is no longer working. It brings this out - "Something went wrong with this response, please try again." And after 3 tries, it says your rate limit is exceeded. Please, what can be done?

[radiant hollow]

This is a general problem, I hope they resolve it soon

[plucky sparrow]

My guess is you're using Sonnet/Opus. been an issue with Anthropic ever since the load of new users because of the OpenAI/Anthropic/US Military debacle. Either wait for them to fix the issue (Anthropic) or use a different model for now. A lot of people already reported it:
https://discord.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1417174113092374689

[radiant hollow]

Ohh, I see. Which model would you recommend in exchange. I do complex tasks

[plucky sparrow]

depends on the task. what task are you using it for?

[visual panther]

Whats the latest gpt version ?

In arena site

[steel shadow]

Hi @echo aurora What's this experiment with the compulsory login in direct about?

[vapid holly]

Wait who's like THE OWNER of lm

[rigid copper]

common problem, either wait or start a new chat

[vapid holly]

** Try a different model, try clearing you're cache/cookies, try a different browser. And lastly the one that worked for me, switch accounts! **

[rigid copper]

Not really know much about it, but highly doubt is Wei Lin Chiang

i hear they mention Wei Lin Chiang is the co owner of LMArena

[weak dagger]

Pineapple.

[rigid copper]

he is likely finding the owner of LMArena, not moderator

[river pendant]

latest is gpt-5.4 I guess

[river pendant]

Just select direct chat and then search for model you like, after, it's going to be selected and you can begin conversation, this is not in discord tho, it's in arena.ai platform itself

[river pendant]

Nope, the Video Arena bot was removed from this server. You can access now through their site: https://arena.ai/video, you can also read through their announcements on why this happened, here it is: #announcements message

[mystic sluice]

my opus 4.6 thinking for 24 hours now

https://tenor.com/view/alien-meme-locked-locked-in-tiktok-gif-14786237905600613762

[azure citrus]

hi guys, any recommended free AI detector to human text converter?

[dry siren]

Anyone else getting stuck in captcha loop hell all of a sudden?

[fallen swift]

did they really just delete the video arena archive

ok so its not deleted its just no access

[cold oxide]

Hey anything happened to grok ?

[queen veldt]

<@&1349916362595635286>

I'm just curious this mrbeast scam i think people are getting hacked since they seem like legitimate users

This guy was a member since 24. October 2025

[cold oxide]

They don't pay for that...you get that and says complete task or add $$

[queen veldt]

Oh

They still getting scammed tho ponzi scheme

[cold oxide]

Yeah that's the truth ppls get excited to see that 3200$ in the wallet and these scammers say add more for withdrawal and get scammed by them

[queen veldt]

https://youtu.be/V0ajSB_Ke5I

[golden ocean]

21 MINUTES DISCORD VIDEO

@unreal sand please summarize

[cloud bane]

i want poster for cartoon factory

[golden ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1340554757827461211/1477393984891523164/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker.gif

[rigid copper]

I've heard this like a lot of times

pretty much they end up getting hacked because of clicking suspicious link

thus the mrbeast deepfake scam image look much legitimate (that actually a scam), which it's hard to sort out if it's really legitimate or a scam, because it was literally taken by the phone's camera.

[queen veldt]

Yeah but still nobody will give free money just like that lol

If you see something free on the internet it's either a scam or they want to sell you something

[golden ocean]

oh so these discord accs got hecked long time ago already

the mr beast scam itself doesnt hack discord acounts

https://tenor.com/view/blow-dryer-cat-cat-blow-dryer-flamethrower-cat-burning-cat-gif-16610322200713608314

[covert leaf]

Yes

Every prompt

[wise flower]

guys

why tf lmarena be saying something went wrong every 5 seconds

in the newer models

[dry siren]

Okay it's not just me then.

[visual panther]

Any arena.ai app coming soon?

[river pendant]

Idk, ask someone if it is

[visual panther]

I thought you were admin

[river pendant]

I'm not, plus there's should be moderator like @echo aurora one

[river pendant]

ask him

[hazy zodiac]

Me Waiting for the lm arena api :-:

[inner relic]

Soo

I think grok 4.20 is out on api

[sand loom]

Anyone else havin problems with gemini 3.1? It always says it is a llm and are not working for my questions anymore...

[visual panther]

No lm now

[cobalt quarry]

Hi everyone! I’m excited about the Arena.ai app. Does anyone know when it might be released for mobile devices?

@echo aurora

[steel plaza]

No

I don't know

[river pendant]

I'm excited about arena.ai app tho, but I also don't know

[loud verge]

https://cunnyx.com/i/status/2031635817375080929

Kol Tregaskes (@koltregaskes)

Grok 4.20 beta just got an update (0309).

**💬 5 🔁 4 ❤️ 63 👁️ 2.0K **

CunnyX · Mar 11, 2026, 7:38 AM

[surreal zephyr]

New codex is out 🥳 🎉

[half mist]

Why can’t I chat while signed out? It used to work just fine

[solemn nacelle]

is arena ai sign up required fully now ??

[half mist]

Apparently yeah. The only possible reason I can think of why they implemented this is to prevent Arena Bridging, and making sure that you can’t bypass the rate limit

[formal jungle]

Awesome, thank you! Sorry I should have read through the announcements. 🙂

[dry orchid]

hello

[visual panther]

Lmafo

[upper portal]

https://tenor.com/bYw2C.gif

[next cobalt]

Hi
Please am new here, what's the rate limit?

[echo aurora]

Hello - we don't have a mobile application. However, the site does work on mobile web browsers.

[serene nest]

not

realy

my is working

[echo aurora]

Essentially a timeout period. You can learn more here: https://help.arena.ai/articles/8931786544-arena-how-to-rate-limit

[echo aurora]

?

[half mist]

Not very well at all though since the more text the ai generates, the laggier it gets. It’s an issue with a lot of ai platforms not just Arena

[echo aurora]

The current experiment is for Direct chat requiring loging. Battle & Side by Side shouldn't have this requirement.

[half mist]

Did you do this to prevent bypassing rate limits, and to prevent bridging?

[echo aurora]

Yeah true, we do have work to be done on the performance side

[echo aurora]

I'm not sure if it's specifically about preventing bridging or not, but overall preventing inauthentic use the platform is going to make the experience better for everyone.

[half mist]

That was my first thought when I first saw the update

[serene nest]

do the limits reset

after time

[echo aurora]

yes

[half mist]

@echo aurora I also noticed the Battles in Direct experiment is gone.

[serene nest]

that is very important

[sterile sun]

@echo aurora I don't like your armour

[echo aurora]

@sturdy trail The Video Arena Discord bot has been removed from the server. You can find Video Arena on our site here: https://arena.ai/video More information can be found in this announcement about the removal of the bot.

[royal sail]

never seen a good nemotron model in my life

lol

[echo aurora]

No it's still there. We made some adjustments though.

[serene nest]

tis was the anwser of this from the suport

If you see this error, please try the following steps:
Hard refresh the website
Clear your browser’s cookies and cache
Start a new chat
If the issue persists, please follow the instructions in this section of the help center article. This will help by providing the team with better information to identify the root cause of the issue.
Glad I was able to help you out - let us know if you need any more help!

[half mist]

I don’t see it on the Experiments

[echo aurora]

I am a pineapple, so yes.

[fiery raft]

dude just fix the ai already dude 💔

[sterile sun]

:( I want your insides, they are tasty

[echo aurora]

https://help.arena.ai/articles/8949646387-lmarena-experiments-battles-in-direct

[tribal fiber]

Hello bro

[sterile sun]

wello

[half mist]

Also, the stop button should’ve been there from the start. I am still shocked that it took this long

[river pendant]

No problem, I forgive you

[tribal fiber]

Nice

[fiery raft]

i hope they add this dude

[serene nest]

thats a very god feture

[sterile sun]

type of feature apple thinks that we should clap on

[echo aurora]

Do you have thoughts on the rerun button? Is it easy to find?

(this question is for everyone who have come across it)

[half mist]

You mean this button? It’s really easy to find

[versed jasper]

Any guesses as to what model is jester?

[echo aurora]

No sorry that's the "retry" button. The "rerun" button appears after you stop a generation.

Retry = when a model completed a response, and you want it to try again
Rerun = when a model is stopped mid generation, and you want it to try again

[visual panther]

Hey pineapple it would be nice if there was an app from Arena.AI too

[half mist]

I don’t have the experiment yet, so I can’t tell you

[echo aurora]

It is on canary - https://canary.lmarena.ai/

[echo aurora]

Agreed!

[devout vault]

nvidia is so bad at making ai why cant they just focus on what they do the best: gpus

[half mist]

@echo aurora Definitely needs tweaking. Comparing yours to Gemini’s, it’s a bit clunky. First, stopping a generation on Gemini gets rid of the context from that response, and keeps the response from the ai before you stopped it, and the regeneration button is below the stopped response just like the retry button on arena.ai. I also feel like having the regeneration button on the send button isn’t a good change since the user must’ve stopped the response for a reason, and may want to use a different prompt instead. So here is my recommendations for you. Make it so that when you stop a response, it shows the AI’s response before you stopped it with the generation stopped text below the unfinished response, and make it so when you stop a response, it doesn’t replace the send button with a regeneration button, and it instead puts a regenerate button next to the send button so that you can either regenerate the response, or use a different prompt instead

[echo aurora]

Posted a poll in announcements btw, would love to hear which of the two you all prefer!! #announcements message

[half mist]

I chose no auto scroll since most AIs don’t have this feature, and would actually make arena.ai more laggy since scrolling normally during a response is also laggy. The only AI that does auto scrolling is Google AI Studio, but that one has the feature a lot more optimized to prevent lag

[raven stone]

I wish they'd update the site.. Make it more universal, convenient, and without bugs, but I'm too lazy to write in the bugs channel.

[visual panther]

Fr fr fr real shet brother^

[echo aurora]

Okay cool, thank you for this feedback, I'll share with the team.

Make it so that when you stop a response, it shows the AI’s response before you stopped it with the generation stopped text below the unfinished response
Yeah I like this, and makes a lot of sense.

and make it so when you stop a response, it doesn’t replace the send button with a regeneration button, and it instead puts a regenerate button next to the send button
I slightly disagree with this point (though I understand where you’re coming from). If you start typing in the text box, the rerun button changes to a regular send button. I can imagine situations where a user starts typing a new message, then realizes they’d prefer to rerun the previous prompt instead, which wouldn’t be possible once text has been entered.

[echo aurora]

It’s hard for me to comment on the specifics since I’m not entirely sure what you’re referring to here. That said, this is something we already do and intend to continue doing.

[half mist]

I didn’t see that it changes to a send button. If that happens, then it’s a good positioning of the regenerate button for sure

[visual panther]

are you running this by yourself?

isnt that hard

pineapple

[half mist]

Bugs I notice is that when generating a response, it gets laggier and laggier as the generation goes. I asked AI on this, and wanted to hear what you think: ⚡ Why Arena.ai feels laggy

Arena.ai is essentially a showcase platform that pipes model outputs directly into a simple UI. It’s not heavily optimized for rendering speed. The lag usually comes from three things:

🧩 1. Token-by-token DOM updates

Arena often appends each token as a separate DOM update.
Browsers hate this. It forces:

• constant layout recalculations
• reflows
• repaints

As the message grows, each update gets slower.

🧵 2. React re-renders the entire message

Arena’s UI is built in a way that triggers a full component re-render on every token.
That’s like repainting your entire house every time you add a single brick.

🌐 3. Small, frequent network chunks

If the server sends tiny packets extremely fast, the browser gets overwhelmed.
This creates jitter and visible slowdown.

[raven stone]

Maybe better to add settings, with auto-scroll and other features..?

[visual panther]

Give this man reddit gold

[echo aurora]

This being Arena?

[raven stone]

++ You could make it so if the AI doesn't respond and keeps generating endlessly, you can cancel it, but honestly I don't know how to explain it so you understand correctly.

@echo aurora

[surreal zephyr]

Gave bro polymarket mcp and credit card access, hope he earns me some money 🔥

[visual panther]

Yep

[raven stone]

bruh

[serene nest]

how to get moderator

[raven stone]

Wait for news about moderator recruitment...

[echo aurora]

We've got a team. I don't want to think of what Arena would look like if it was just me.

[echo aurora]

We don't have a community mod program at the moment, but we may change this in the future. We'll see.

[serene nest]

okay

[raven stone]

Mr. Moderator, did you like my ideas?

[echo aurora]

Yeah that makes sense. The infinite generation bug is an ongoing issue unfortuantely. We aren experimenting with a Stop Button that's currently in the works. Fingers crossed this rolls out soon to everyone.

[echo aurora]

I do!

[raven stone]

Okay, thank you very much, Mr. Moderator.

[echo aurora]

Hey everyone - we have a new feature we'd love your feedback on. **Fact Checker **is now live on Canary.

What is Fact Checker?

After a model generates a response, you can use Verify Claims to fact-check it. This feature cross-checks each factual claim using multiple independent models and highlights areas of agreement or disagreement, along with a confidence percentage indicating how likely each claim is to be accurate. You can click on any highlighted claim to See Analysis, where you’ll find a detailed breakdown of which models agree or disagree—and the reasoning behind their assessments.

Please provide feedback here.

[half mist]

That’s a good feature. Reminds me of the double check response feature in Gemini

[echo aurora]

Glad to hear you like it! If you could fill out the feedback form that'd be a big help.

[half mist]

It works exactly how the double check response feature in Gemini works

[rustic lichen]

why do i have to regeister to use arena?

[empty sky]

To prevent abuse and making your own service off of a botted browser

If you didn't have to signup anyone could make different looking clients like a botnet and abuse the system

Thats what I think

Or to prevent costs

[rustic lichen]

then why would they not done it earlier?

[empty sky]

They probably found some issue or they ditched it because more users

Wait a damn minute

QWEN INSTRUCT

I COULD INSTRUCT IT TO ANALYZE CHATS IN MY SERVER USING AN AUTOMATION AGENT AND I COULD GET A FREE AI MODERATION BOT

WOOHOOO WOHOO

Ah I forgot

Cors

[woeful shale]

how can i see my usage ?

[vapid holly]

By looking

🥹 ✌️

[echo aurora]

If you open the sidebar you'll see your chat history. This will retain across different devices if you're signed in.

[empty sky]

Oooo

Where

Bet

How many parameters is it smart

Is it compact

Do it got low latency

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-gif-22165105

Huh

How its not even been a week

Ah alr
So like 1 second latency?

Ok

[empty sky]

Damn

Alr im enhancing my automod then

Holy damn

Ok

191.5 MS WHAT

[opaque maple]

Something went wrong with this response, please try again.

[echo aurora]

Can you try the steps in this message: #1417174113092374689 message

[somber pine]

@echo aurora bro, i can´t use arena ai

The problem persists despite doing everything you recommended

delete cookie, change chat, even try other browsers without logging in and with an account but the problem persists

Can you help me?

[sullen sand]

Now there is like a security verification and It later appears the error

[somber pine]

It comes out directly to me, I don't even get the security verification

[sullen sand]

And why I have that verification?

[somber pine]

I don't know bro, I can't generate any chat, we have the same error

[sullen sand]

Uhmm so what we can do

[somber pine]

I don't know bro, we have to wait for an administrator's response because we have already tried everything we could:

Enter the exact date of your location, delete cookies, test in different browsers, report the problem...

But nothing works, we can only wait bro

[sullen sand]

Ok I will wait until a fix for this

[somber pine]

Ok broda

Me to

Yooo @sullen sand go priv, i can fix the problem

[proud bobcat]

DeepSeek V4?

[opal osprey]

.txt uploads sare still not supported right

[opal osprey]

1 trillion??

[proud bobcat]

Yes

Also just confirmed it is DeepSeek V4

It refuses to talk about certain topics

And the context length + responses match up similarly to the new model on the DeepSeek app

[echo aurora]

Hey @somber pine is the problem you're seeing is you're getting the Something went wrong error?

[pale obsidian]

so how is deepseek v4

[mild knot]

Hey Guys waddup?

Have y’all tested GPT 5.4??

[echo aurora]

[mild knot]

How u doing bro?

[proud bobcat]

Lemme do some tests rq

Okay it does NOT do well with 3D models

But the code quality is not bad at all

For the largest version of the model it really is god damn fast

[somber pine]

Hello @echo aurora, i fix the problem, but thanks bro,

[proud bobcat]

I’d say it’s on par with 5.3 codex

[echo aurora]

Pretty well, busy day but can't complain. HBU?

[pale obsidian]

dude its so fast

[proud bobcat]

It’s so lightning fast dude

I gave it an entire html file to use as a reference to polish up a landing page it made

It’s so fast

Okay maybe not on par with 5.3 codex but it’s a huge step up nonetheless

Only a bit behind maybe

[somber pine]

@echo aurora The problem is that I was a little ignorant, why? Simple, because I didn't give the option to set the PC schedule automatically.

Now, when I tried that, it let me generate the texts at once, thank you very much for your help brother

[echo aurora]

Ah yes, you'll need to have the system's date/time set to the current date/time in order for the generations to work.

[plucky basalt]

why are we timing out model responses

[pale obsidian]

oof

deepseek's model on the website says may 2025, so i would discard deepseek if this is true

ok nvm it responds with different dates each time now

[gleaming roost]

😊

[vagrant silo]

@echo aurora

why i got error always when i try to generate video?

[echo aurora]

I'll respond to your ticket in #1343291835845578853 in a bit. Thank you for creating a thread there btw, it is helpful.

[primal orbit]

When asking grok-4.20-beta1 in direct chat it only replies to the first prompt and follow up prompts always give "something went wrong".

[alpine eagle]

Hello everyone. Can someone please tell me if we have access to Perplexity Pro through Arena ??

[wary robin]

uhh idrk

check in models through direct chat

[empty sky]

Holy crap this stop gen button is so useful

[honest verge]

Deepseek v4 is already in openrouter

It's called hunter alpha

1m context

[empty sky]

Also can you guys add dolphin models

[honest verge]

Omni model

1T parameters

[empty sky]

Like 72b dolphin

[honest verge]

I don't think it's 5o openai

Because openai doesn't reveal parameters

And 1T for gpt models feels too small

[proud bobcat]

Not true

It told me May 2025

On second response

The model probably was hallucinating a bit at first

[proud bobcat]

It’s DeepSeek V4

For sure

[honest verge]

Finally Omni model for deepseek

I waited so long for it

But still no official release

Like it was supposed to come out in February

Then in early march

Now mid march

[proud bobcat]

Worth the wait

They can take as much time for fine tuning as they need

[neat apex]

are you sure? it can realistically be Kimi k2.6

especially assuming its "OpenClaw" first, and they are clearly focused in that now

[proud bobcat]

Wouldn’t make sense

Knowledge cutoff date matches with the new DeepSeek model in the app (May 2025)

Context length matches DeepSeek V4 rumors

[neat apex]

Bro its a million

[proud bobcat]

Kimi is much less hesitant about sensitive Chinese topics, this model is very sensitive about them

[neat apex]

WHO DONT HAVE THAT?

[proud bobcat]

A lot of models

Actually

[neat apex]

ah yeah actual signs

[proud bobcat]

Plus the context length also matches the new DeepSeek model’s context length in app

Writing style is also identical

[neat apex]

fine then, any other relevant sign that dont includes kimi k2.6

[proud bobcat]

I’m using Kimi k2.5 rn and I can tell you the writing style is miles diff

[neat apex]

i will check it out then

Kimi k2 style change to 2.5 were noticeable, but it never lost the "efforted" personality

[burnt sinew]

by the way, why isnt midjourney models on arena?

or did they use to have an api and get rid of it?

[drowsy ocean]

where do I create videos?

[burnt sinew]

https://arena.ai/video

[drowsy ocean]

thx

[fickle venture]

Wtf I think that's deepseek

[echo aurora]

IIRC they were exploring an API, but I don't think it fully rolled out/rolled out selectively.

Would love to have those models on Arena though.

[stray aspen]

Gpt 5.4 is so ass

[empty sky]

No its probably gpt 4o disguised idk

Its good for mainstream stuff

[stray aspen]

why is hunter alpha so slow

[glacial shell]

hello everyone

[blazing warren]

yo bro, you think this model is good? people are saying it's deepseek v4

[blazing warren]

hi

[stray aspen]

im testing it

[flat ore]

What is openclaw and why are poeple buying mac minis for it specifically rather then just using their own pc normally

[blazing warren]

i know openclaw is an agentic ai, so it basically does stuff for u. i think the mac mini thing is mostly cuz it's cheap and good for smaller models like that 4b parameter qwen that just dropped, but idk i might be talking nonsense tbh

it's also a way to not use ur main pc for this ai, right? the mac mini is small and u can leave it on while ur pc stays available for u

[stray aspen]

hunter alpha kinda cooked ngl

its a good model

[rich mason]

Hey everyone!👋 I’ve been unable to access Google Gemini over the past day. Is the service currently down for maintenance, or are there any ongoing technical issues? Thanks for any info!

[stray aspen]

hunter alpha is not bad at all

its literally better than gemini

[opal trellis]

Wow

[balmy halo]

can anyone tell me how to use discord im new here?

also lm arena video model is not working on site how to resolve it or use it in discord?

@topaz meadow

[topaz meadow]

?

[topaz meadow]

oh

I'm not everyone, @everyone is everyone

but the admin block this because yk

[topaz meadow]

https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/360045138571-Beginner-s-Guide-to-Discord

[balmy halo]

thnku

[bold cliff]

I cant login in my arena account, it keeps trying to register my email but I already have an account with it. Am seeing an error message that says Error registering email @odd karma

[honest verge]

Hunter alpha is not deepseek

It's too bad

Not even nearly openai or at least Gemini lvl

I don't know what is this

Maybe Gemini 3.1 flash?...

[rain bay]

it is strange that im blocked before every chat

im stuck in endless recaptcha tests

[opal osprey]

chatgpt was one of the first

ai models

and its so far behind now

pretty poetic

[steady grove]

codex: Searched web for site:arxiv.org "expected free energy" active inference arXiv

[thick pawn]

Why do we have to sign in just to use arena now. You never used to need to

[hollow furnace]

Hmm, does anyone know how fix the issue where in direct chat a response stays as generating indefinitely, it most likely failed but it's not showing an error code, refreshing doesn't fix it either. The chat is basically broken

[broken mango]

Where can I generate images to video

[thorny schooner]

I think I got hit with the fu battle mode g glitching which again damn it why the hell is it still active with better mode

https://klipy.com/gifs/rage-angry-38

[pearl drum]

Arena used to be much better than a lot other platforms simply because it doesn't require signing in
To be fair, it would've been ok if signing in just enables you to chat and code with some limits...
SIGNING IN PLUS CAPTCHAS is what makes it real bad
Anything worse than that? Yes, sign in and then get EVER-FAILING captchas

[spare harbor]

I agree.

[sterile rapids]

it's Chinese model. Maybe Xiaomi - which small omni seems too

Healer alpha:

[dreamy sparrow]

no

[storm dust]

sir i dont think if you are sharing this on the right channel

[rapid crown]

dude i keep trying to do something but grok keeps hard blocking me

can somebody help me jailbreak

[south gale]

polymarket

[bleak lake]

Jailbreak is not usually supported

You shouldn't ask that in a server that's legit 😭 you can get in some trouble

unless you state what you tryna do

Then it gets better

[ocean ferry]

bro

u know Active Inference too damn?

[steady grove]

no man

[rapid crown]

uh well im trying to make scripts (hack) for certain games but it wont let me 😃

[river pendant]

There's only way in arena.ai to do this if it's added In battle mode, so you need to turn on video mode in arena.ai and then there's only will be battle mode available, so find the upload image button or smth, and do what needed for this button, and then type the prompt and click send, the prompt with image supposed to be sended and ai models that are unknown, should do their job

[pearl drum]

spam <@&1349916362595635286>

[graceful steeple]

@echo aurora i cant see the stop button in canary website,

[fickle bone]

Hi I could generate video in this server I remember is that feature removed?

[next thistle]

Wow!

[river pendant]

Yes, unfortunately the video arena has been added to arena.ai and the video bot is been removed from this server, you can read in announcements on why this got removed, let me share you a link

[fickle bone]

Okey thanks a lot

[river pendant]

No problem, so I'll go search a link to make sure everyone can read it

here: #announcements message

unfortunately I'm not admin of this server, but I want to

[fickle bone]

But why. Explore life kid

[river pendant]

I mean nobody would just accept me as admin of this server, and plus how? did I need to do smth to be accepted and control this discord server?

to make it better tho?

[fickle bone]

Why would you need to be an admin in the first place . Admin role got responsiblities

[river pendant]

don't know, alright whatever, let's not talk about it

[fickle bone]

Let's talk about your pain . What hurts you my bro

[river pendant]

nothing, just nothing...

[fickle bone]

It's alright my friend . You can tell me . I'm a virtual person

[river pendant]

virtual? so it means you ai?

[fickle bone]

No I mean I'm not a physical friend who can judge you by who you are

[river pendant]

Oh, alright, let's be friends I guess

[fickle bone]

How can we be friends when you can't be open with me

Are you a software developer by any chance?

[river pendant]

I'm just user, but I want to be ai dev who can improve arena.ai but first I have to be hired and blah blah blah, @echo aurora one is who saying it, and plus I asked if he can add a job like ai dev and suggester but he said that it's only for their team to be accepted or not, like they should do that, not me

[fickle bone]

You can wait and apply when the release a post bro .

They won't hier someone unless they need him .

Cz every employee has salaries most likely

They*

[river pendant]

oh

Alright, but ik that at first place, I at least asked them if they can add those jobs to their site plus make them in sections, like the ai developing, and the suggestion thing

[fickle bone]

You should really focus on your life instead of hanging with a company . Maybe build your own saas .
Or maybe collaborate with other startups like mine . Or maybe like apply for jobs that are open in the world .

Don't work unpaid man. Ur worth the money

[river pendant]

idk if I should build saas cuz this thingy will be paid, because nobody works with a man who have no money

mabye you can help? but I know answer that it will be no I guess

[fickle bone]

Well at least we can build together and see if it grows

At least we can try before giving up

If you really wanna Collab with me send me a hi here :
I'll probably start from next month.

[river pendant]

Ok, but we should already build an ai service just like this arena.ai service and call it LLMChat

I'll go to you're email and send what needed ok?

[fickle bone]

Nah I'm not building what's already built . Its unnecessary for human .

[river pendant]

Oh, great...

[fickle bone]

I wanna build something that solves people's headache . Maybe like some alternative to high paid stuffs which people needs but can't afford at low subscription cost

Hoping u saved the mail

[river pendant]

Ok, but I'll think about it if I want

[vale vortex]

Quick question, what's the best LLM assistant in making a thesis?

[visual panther]

I luv Ai

[river pendant]

Well, I guess Gemini good at this if I'm right

[visual panther]

Is gpt 5.4 high good for daily tasks ?

[river pendant]

yeah, if you meaning like website making and games, it's definitely should be good for that task

[vale vortex]

That would make sense, along with Opus too maybe

[river pendant]

but if it is in arena.ai, Gemini should be better

[visual panther]

Aight

[river pendant]

Yeah, Gemini should be good at this task because it's also looking like research model

[vale vortex]

Would the search models perform better than regular ones?

[river pendant]

yeah, it's just contain links options and stuff that regular model couldn't perform, so it's makes sense, doesn't it?

[river pendant]

like this could be better for research since regular model would just say that it's can't just because it's can't perform this task

[vale vortex]

Yeahh but isn't their reasoning capability lower though?

[river pendant]

yeah, it can be lower due to power of the model since it's only capable for research, not other tasks

[visual panther]

Give @river pendant a role

[river pendant]

but for other reasons than research, no I I suppose?

[visual panther]

is there any proof u havent built with ai

[river pendant]

I'm not an ai! Stop saying that in every discord server, in websim discord server someone starts saying that I'm an ai, that I can't do all of this, bruh like why?

it could begin in every goddamn discord server, even here

[visual panther]

how

ngl they must give u a reputation in this server

[river pendant]

Idk how but it's annoying, and I want to scream on them or blame, but I might don't do that due to admins and moderators

[river pendant]

yeah, but that's still don't mean I am bot, I have YouTube channel like Mkrilin House, but there's no videos yet

[visual panther]

No matter useful they will still nuke u if u say something shet

[river pendant]

they can't, I wouldn't even say what they want cuz I'm say no

try it and see

like if it's a word to say only

[visual panther]

Ur rly bot

[river pendant]

GOD MAKE IT STOP! IT'S A DISCORD GODDAMN BUG

I WANT TO DONE WITH THIS! I HATE THIS SO MUCH

[visual panther]

Do it then

(Jorke)

[river pendant]

ok I'm done with this! pls stop talking about me being ai, if I'm say that you ai you get mad?

[visual panther]

Idc

[river pendant]

you know me either

[visual panther]

i think biggest reason ppl might think youre ai is the way your words come out typed like a textbook

I guess it might be because of ur keyboard or something

[river pendant]

bro, it's a discord bug, it might be

[river pendant]

and my keyboard is fine, it's app issue

[visual panther]

I dont have that

[river pendant]

then idk what it is

now let's not talk about it before I'll go angry again

[wicked talon]

What is going on lol.

[thorny schooner]

........ What

i haven't even put a single prompt in this chat

[sour path]

hey i am new here

[thorny schooner]

hi

[thorny schooner]

@echo aurora Sorry for the pin but this just made me go past my patience with this whole bull @#@@#@

[river pendant]

This going on, @visual panther thinks I'm bot and ai, and I'm get so angry about it

so yeah, he started first

[thorny schooner]

And before you ask I have already tried with different Bots

[river pendant]

@thorny schooner he is not here right now I guess

[thorny schooner]

I'm aware pin is for when he is

[river pendant]

oh ok then

[radiant hollow]

Why do I have to solve capt has everytime I prompt on my PC and its doesn't work at all on my phone, opus 4.6 haven't tried other models so I don't know if it's same 😩

[storm dust]

guys are you also having constant security checks appearing because i do

[radiant hollow]

Same here. Why are these things happening

[storm dust]

well imma just wait

[fossil socket]

I think Opus 4.6 is having an aneurysm considering I said something about someone signing We'll meet Again and it's doing this:

Already reported it but uh yeah, this is unexpected

[light garnet]

Same here.

[wicked talon]

What..

[wicked talon]

This could be to do with rate limits.

[golden ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1432034404779298940/1480315302272307300/caption.gif

[river pendant]

Yeah, I also weird out about this

[river pendant]

Thank God it's done

[fossil socket]

Uh nope it kept doing it after the rate got refreshed

[deft spruce]

Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 403 ()

[cunning birch]

It is a company testing is the bot good with 265k context windiws or they can make it 1m and Gemini is already 1M 😂🙂👌

So it is a chineese model I think

[raw grotto]

hey

[golden ocean]

real

[proud bobcat]

Wait

@neat apex if it was Kimi k2.6 or Kimi k3, when why would one model not have visions capabilities but the other does?

Hunter alpha is the flagship reasoning model and Healer Alpha is the omni model

Because Kimi K2.5 thinking and instant both have vision

[neat apex]

well, the model being deepseek also does not answers it

[frosty lava]

hunter alpha is so good at frontend

on openrouter

[neat apex]

but in Kimi k case, it only is a flagship vision model due the scale of vision experts

So in a smaller and more focused model it maybe could sacrifice the vision experts

I know it does not make sense

they let it very clear that the Kimi k2.5 were evoluing endelessly at training, and it would not make sense dischart the vision model if it was only needed to train it even more

[fiery raft]

why is gpt 5.4 so nonchalant

[storm dust]

i think you should ask the ai why

[light garnet]

On that note, Capcha is not working.

For me.

[dusty wagon]

ts is giving me a literal aneurysm right now

[storm dust]

captcha jumpscare

[remote gulch]

i need a vpn

i cant login

[lime rune]

@ocean bison

[remote gulch]

f you gfw now i cant use arena without a proxy or vpn

now im using a very sloooooooow proxy

[golden ocean]

true

[storm dust]

i think arena is not completely fixed the chat that i am in didnt even reach the limit

hopefully this is just a temporary issue and that my chat didnt get corrupted

[golden ocean]

its cooked

[bleak lake]

Holy

[bleak lake]

brother what do you think

Who's hunter alpha

[keen hinge]

Why its not working

[light garnet]

Here is the image that I get when trying to generate messages.

[compact juniper]

idk why this always happenes to claude

if i swicth to another acc it works

even something sismple causes error

wtf

[stray swan]

To search the internet, which OpenRouter model do you recommend? One that's inexpensive and returns responses in JSON. One that gives good results.

[deft spruce]

you too?

[dusty wagon]

Guess so

[crude anchor]

Bro

Claude-opus
Gemini 3.1
Gpt 5.4

They're giving me an error.

[graceful steeple]

anyone know why it is asking security captcha for every reply

[pale obsidian]

i expected better from xai

[obsidian shell]

Your ip is not trustworthy.

[graceful steeple]

it was not asking before tho

[obsidian shell]

Well, its trust score is down, fight it with cloudflare and google.

[graceful steeple]

is it because i am messaging too much
or dns issue

[proud bobcat]

Me too

Mogged by 2 points by GLM

[neat lagoon]

dont work

?

nano banana pro

[echo aurora]

Hey @storm dust @light garnet if you're seeing this error message you'll want to try the steps outlined here: #1417174113092374689 message

[storm dust]

nah it works fine even though i started to get the error again

i will try the steps tho

[sterile rapids]

Yeah but at least is best with lowest hallucination rate

[pale obsidian]

yea i've seen that

i really want to see the results of the multi agent version

[proud bobcat]

GPT 5.4 HAS MORE HALLUCINATIONS THAN LLAMA 4?

WHAT????

That’s actually insane

The benchmarks get better but the hallucinations get worse

[spare lava]

Yo. I just got logged out

Nevermind I'm good

[crystal garnet]

hi

[wicked talon]

Lmao

Gemini 3.1 pro is surprisingly low

[wicked talon]

Sad there isn't a flash thinking on Gemini

Benchmark

[echo aurora]

As in you were forced to logout?

[spare lava]

Yeah. I'm good tho. I closed and made a new tab to log back in

[surreal zephyr]

least rigged result

opus doesnt even get close to 5.3, let alone 5.4

🥀

[visual panther]

i still havent checked on pc yet on mobile chat there isnt even a scrolldown button and its even worse when you press saved chats then it goes back to the very beginning

@echo aurora definitely need a solution

[surreal zephyr]

anyone else has this issue?

[proud bobcat]

probably because it thinks better

because gpt models have always been abysmal at thinking

[surreal zephyr]

💀

ragebait

[proud bobcat]

gpt BLOWS at accuracy

it straightup sucks

[wraith valve]

how to make image to video

[echo sinew]

The Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement. This feature is still fully available on the website: https://arena.ai/video.

[edgy iron]

missed opportunity - there should have been more bananas in video about Nano Banana with Yue

[surreal zephyr]

right...

[echo aurora]

Hey sorry can you clarify this a bit for me? If you tap/hold you'll be able to scroll in a chat, sounds like you'd like buttons for this?

you press saved chats then it goes back to the very beginning
This one I could use some more help understanding.

[echo aurora]

Based off the prompt, seems like it's working just fine

[visual panther]

when u open recent chat it starts from the beginning but in the gpt app theres a button to jump to the recent msgs cant they add something like that?

[echo aurora]

Gotcha. This make sense. Could you create a post in #1372230675914031105 with this idea? Would be curious how many other members feel the same.

[visual panther]

Ok

[dawn prairie]

hello

[mortal vale]

@tacit laurel Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this #announcements

[wicked talon]

Gemini caught hallucinating

[polar niche]

@mortal vale Why is there no way to add files/pdf to code generation models? What if I already have a website project and I want to add context on how it should be made.

There is a file icon next to the model yet there is no upload documents button.

[mortal vale]

@polar niche Hello! I apologize for the delay, but I won't be able to help you with this question but @echo aurora will be able to assist you when as soon as he's available. Thank you for your patience.

[stray aspen]

Gemini sucks

[edgy iron]

odds are claude thinking went over 10min limit of thinking, making people choose another model

[stray aspen]

Hunter alph is way better

[golden ocean]

which company does hunter alpha belong to

[sour spear]

This. It cuts off too often, otherwise it would score higher.

[edgy iron]

Tip — don't ask thinking opus to code, ask it to write a plan without writing code, otherwise it will keep correcting itself (Akctually... and so on).
Then regular opus tries to oneshot it.
Then sonnet quickly patches up small mistakes.

[echo aurora]

Hey @polar niche sorry for the delay - we do intend to increase the file type options in the future. At the moment the only file types are:

• PNG (.png)
• JPG / JPEG (.jpg, .jpeg)
• WEBP (.webp)
• PDF
  When we add more we'll be sure to put out an announcement and update this help center article.

[polar niche]

But I can't add any when using code mode

Please just add python files and txt files, all I'm asking

And js

[gleaming roost]

Could you add PDF upload to Code Arena?

[echo aurora]

There is image support, but there isn't PDF upload ability at the moment. cc @gleaming roost

[polar niche]

How do I add context if I already have a website built?

That's why it would be great to be able to chat with code models.

[echo aurora]

Agreed that expanding the upload ability to Code Arena would be a good improvement to have.

[echo aurora]

I'd check out Image to Code, this video goes into more details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA2UYigWIIY

[polar niche]

I was saying this:

No upload option available.

[echo aurora]

Ah, that's because that specific model we're still working on adding image upload support, it has PDF upload support (on Text Arena).

If you select a different model you should see the ability.

[polar niche]

It still has the file icon.

[echo aurora]

Okay yeah I'll flag that to the team then, we should have that removed (sort of). I'll explain.

This icon means it has PDF upload ability

This means it has image upload ability

[polar niche]

Yeah, all claude models have that even though they don't have PDF support currently.

[echo aurora]

Well, they do. However, it's Code Arena that doesn't have PDF support.

So when selecting Code modality we should remove that PDF support icon as when in Code it doesn't have that support.

It's a little confusing, but yeah can understand how that'd lead to confusion. I'll flag to the team.

[polar niche]

Yes, it should only be removed in the code selection.

[river matrix]

Hey. What model would you recommend for 3d game developing?
I know its not gonna develop full game, but just curious what s can be made with using mostly only ai agent

[echo aurora]

I think it makes it extra confusing as the file icon is called "File Upload" and not specifically calling out PDF.

[polar niche]

It's fine that way, just should be removed until file upload is available.

[polar niche]

I'd say: build with GPT 5.4 and design with Claude Opus 4.6

[river matrix]

How to use 2 different models. Is there is any way how to transfer chat from one agent to another?

[polar niche]

Yes, just transfer context, created files, ask gpt to summarize what it made.

[surreal zephyr]

When is MISTRALBENCH going to be included?

[thorny schooner]

,

[hazy forge]

thread dead, been like this forever (usual - 8 minutes, now - 2 days), anyone knows how to revive it?

[polar niche]

Hard refresh / delete cookies/browser cache / send another message / start a new chat.

Or try in another browser.

[hazy forge]

thanks, but that's basically like if i had asked how to fix a broken part of my car and you suggest buy a brand new car

i'll take it tho

[vapid holly]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1462055974188613685/1481748809636773998/attachment.gif

[wraith wren]

Which model/models would you recommend for game dev? Ive been using opus 4.6 but I've seen people say gpt 5.4 is better.

[echo aurora]

I'd also recommend trying out the Stop Button feature, it's currently an experiment so you may or not not see this. However, on our canary site you should be seeing it: https://canary.lmarena.ai/

[polar niche]

Not much else I can do

[hazy forge]

as i said thanks anyways

[near stream]

Does anyone know how to solve this? I've already tried creating new chats, but the problem persists.

[hazy forge]

yeah not available on my region, i don't see any stop button even on canary arena. i'll wait until it drops to main, thanks anyways

[echo aurora]

That's odd, the feature isn't going to be region locked. It's possible this button isn't able to apply to previous chat sessions when the feature wasn't available. I'll need to check in on that.

[echo aurora]

You'll want to try the steps outlined here - #1417174113092374689 message

[hazy forge]

seemed weird to me too, i cleared cache and restarted my browser and now it's working, it's a game changer, thanks

[shrewd knot]

how to generate free video here

[echo aurora]

The Video Arena Discord bot has been removed from the server. You can find Video Arena on our site here: https://arena.ai/video More information can be found in this announcement about the removal of the bot.

[thorny schooner]

Go to the website and find the right model but a image one should generally work

@echo aurora Why did you delete my form i don't see it anymore and I know you say it's the same glitch but I made a separate one cuz all the other types I sing I've seen that were reported on previous one were only applying to one chat but this movie was happening to every single chat since then i first made that image the very first prompt of every chat activates it ( i will be making a report though so don't have not worry about that)

[lofty frigate]

Why when generating images on battle mode it keeps giving me the same model over and over again?

[echo aurora]

Because it's the same issue that we're troubleshooting in #1417174113092374689, I'd like to avoid having duplicate posts.

Would note we have an #ask-here channel. I'm going to avoid answering questions in #general so we can leave this channel for discussion.

[bright shard]

@echo aurora What does all this mean?

[pliant hinge]

can someone send me the new Arena icon?

[echo aurora]

Would note we have an #ask-here channel. I'm going to avoid answering questions in #general so we can leave this channel for discussion.

[plain carbon]

Thank you

Moved my question

[pliant hinge]

i really need this

[pliant hinge]

thanks

[pliant hinge]

also thanks for this awesome meme

[ocean vortex]

I can sell the box for $29 to you that way get to keep even more more infinite money

[fossil socket]

It happened again wtf

[thorny schooner]

At least you can still use it i'm having the issue of Essentially infinite glitch > battle mode Direct quagging chat glitch and then finally > so yeah 😭 😓in the span of three chats and this sometimes this cycle will happen with not even first chat having like 10 prompts

And that's not even talking about this happening for each individual prompt since like yesterday when I'm trying to start a new chat

[echo aurora]

Do you know how long this has been running before you got this error? I tend to associate the model hitting this error mid generation with the 10 minute generation limit.

[blazing warren]

this is happening to me rn, i try but it says something went wrong with the model, anyway i'm gonna wait a bit to see if it gets better

[fossil socket]

Not the Generation limit

It just shuts down the moment the ai begins to write Vera Lynn's song

Like midway through writing it

https://discord.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1481606236767125514

[echo aurora]

Thanks for confirming. I'd recommend following the steps outlined here: #1417174113092374689 message cc @blazing warren @fossil socket

[echo aurora]

I'll respond in this thread.

[floral swift]

I wanted to use gemini for editing a video but I cant upload video

[vital lake]

Dont use opus for roleplay

GPT 5.4 is wayy wayyyyy better

[rough surge]

gpt 5.4 cuts mid answer, why?

[golden ocean]

it has had enough of bro

[vital lake]

Not OpenAI's fault, probably some bug on arena's end

[polar niche]

It is their fault, codex doesn't work either

[frosty lava]

straight up lying is bad

@echo aurora

yes that's very smart of you

[thorny schooner]

Of course I just had to join chat right when something like this happened ☠️

☠️

https://tenor.com/view/made-up-making-things-up-misinformation-spreading-misinformation-lying-gif-5615616319157116451

wtf

<@&1349916362595635286>

[frosty lava]

That's why i believe a discord bot that auto moderate wouldn't be that bad:

especially knowing its free

[thorny schooner]

Just seeing that stuff makes me feel like I'm going high lmao

[frosty lava]

Grown adult acting like this is crazy

[thorny schooner]

Very true it is crazy i remember how even when I was kid when I first got on Discord they put so much shame on themselves when I'm more more than mature than them when I just joined Discord

[wicked talon]

Discord bot auto moderating isn't free.

[frosty lava]

Its only some features that isn't free

i guess it depends which one

[thorny schooner]

Core Concept itself is usually free it's just the advanced versions that are usually paid

[wicked talon]

Arena.ai won't go for free hosting.

[thorny schooner]

Either then they usually have some free tear even if functions reduce one

[wicked talon]

They will host on the same server provider as their website if they support it probably.

[frosty lava]

Why not if its working for free then why paying for unnecessary features, the main thing is just auto moderate

but if they want to pay then of course

[wicked talon]

Because they won't be using free hosting

They are too big.

[frosty lava]

Honestly it don't matter, im just saying it'll be good if they add it

[wicked talon]

They probably wouldn't when they have a free human moderator or can train some.

[thorny schooner]

I honestly wouldn't mind volunteering if they ever start hiring moderators i have the experience

Though we will have to wait and see

[wicked talon]

Me too but moderators get access to sensitive logs unfortunately

So it would probably be very hard.

To apply.

[thorny schooner]

Couldn't they just give a junior moderator that doesn't have access to such logs princess give such Madre time out permission so they can still do their job without be anything permanent for new hires

[wicked talon]

They could.

I don't think they have ever ran a moderation campaign though.

It's something they could do in the future

[thorny schooner]

Sorry for the butcher sentence speech to text hates me

[wicked talon]

Dw

[wicked talon]

Also you can't edit time out permissions.

[thorny schooner]

Fair enough though I won't be surprised if they have to do it in the near future with how many people are making comments about that the whole moderation stuff

[wicked talon]

Moderation seems fine.

[thorny schooner]

Brother I did not even meant that I meant time out permissions Like timing someone out

[wicked talon]

I mean it's literally 1 person doing all the moderation so it's quite good for it.

[wicked talon]

Ohh

[thorny schooner]

Issue is that day is not really sustainable in the future if it ever gets more active as well the fact is it's just more convenient more diverse time zones if you're lucky in terms of hiring diverse people from different areasd

it's just more convenient overall in terms of more people being able to answer if they got more active moderators they're not just in the background and help build more connection with the staff that's not just depending on one complete guy lmao i i make no offense to that one guy is just you know did the company feel a bit unresponsive at times you know what I mean

[wicked talon]

Yeah but that is what happens when you're extremely understaffed.

[thorny schooner]

Oh I know I'm just saying why i mentioned the moderator comment stuff

[wicked talon]

The guy isn't probably paid either.

[wicked talon]

Yeah it's fine

[thorny schooner]

I'm pretty sure he mentioned something about being a support representative for the company so I think he is paid it worked separately as that being his position from separate from a moderator

Could be wrong though

[echo aurora]

(Sry just catching up) Are you referring to here? We have other moderators, their hours just vary.

[wicked talon]

Oh do you?

[echo aurora]

And yeah can confirm I'm an emoployee of Arena, I'm the Community Manager.

[wicked talon]

Ah I thought "lm_mod" accounts were ai or Devs.

[wicked talon]

Ah

[thorny schooner]

I do think that just brings up my point about how I feels I'm responsive sometimes because of how unresponsive those moderators are i'm not saying it's the fault of those moderators or staff it's just you know what I mean even if there are different moderators

[echo aurora]

No we go through a moderation service, they help us out and mainly focus on the moderator stuff (people breaking rules, etc.)

This was mainly for when we had the video arena here

So we could ensure that all remains safe for work

[wicked talon]

Wait the video arena was unfiltered?

[thorny schooner]

Fair enough

[echo aurora]

No it was, it did a pretty good job overall, but there were a few work arounds I'd rather not share the details about lol

[wicked talon]

Oo

[echo aurora]

It wasn't work around to like fully get past the filters or something like that

But more-so just content that could be interpreted as offensive we'd rather not have here

[wicked talon]

Yeah that's not good for this.

Is arena a "company'?

[echo aurora]

Oh yeah

[thorny schooner]

Very vague but I can already imagine what you referring to especially with what just happened now 😓 ☠️

[wicked talon]

Dang actually

[echo aurora]

Would check out this blog post - https://arena.ai/blog/new-lmarena/

[wicked talon]

Hm ok

[thorny schooner]

Still have no idea why I got called a african lmao

[wicked talon]

Wait you have investors...

I thought this was run out of pocket or on donations

[thorny schooner]

Anyway this has been a fun talk helps take away the annoyance of the whole complete glitch that has been going on that doesn't let me do anything on the website

[echo aurora]

Nope

[echo aurora]

Good chatting! I'll bump that issue again btw with the team.

[wicked talon]

Yeah!

[thorny schooner]

you can probably call them a mix of a mix of a company in legal status/ Revenue and a sort of foundation in function with how they provide data in exchange for something it's probably the best way you can describe them in a short sentence

[echo aurora]

Our blog post for the rebrand is also a good read, would recommend: https://arena.ai/blog/lmarena-is-now-arena/

[restive loom]

hello i have an issue on my conversation with arena

it tells me : Something went wrong with this response, please try again.

but i don't want to create a new conversation i want to continue in this

there is a solution please ?

[echo aurora]

This is a generic error that can occur for a few different reasons, so it’s difficult to pinpoint the exact cause from that error message alone. I’d recommend taking a look at [this message}(#1417174113092374689 message), which goes into more detail about what may be happening and includes some steps you can try to resolve the issue. Let me know if you have any questions.

Would also note our #ask-here channel is the best place to ask these kinds of questions.

[tawdry lintel]

I keep getting this every time i try a new prompt

and when i solve the captcha it still doesnt let me enter a prompt

the error

[light garnet]

Same here.

[thorny schooner]

Can vouch for that

[wicked talon]

How would y'all rate copilot

[regal girder]

Well… its stuck
And i don’t see a stop button at canary.arena 😥 so frustrating

[light garnet]

Ngl, but I think Arena needs to be rebooted.

With how bad Capcha is.

[wicked talon]

How would y'all rate copilot

[loud verge]

Microsoft?

[dusty wagon]

I thought surely the broken ass captcha would be gone by now

I was wrong

[blissful path]

Arana not responding since yesterday give this response even after opening a new chat

[vernal storm]

Do you need developer?

[cursive rampart]

Convert the following text into a clear Bangla voice.

Voice style: A 40-year-old woman's voice, soft, caring and natural.
The voice should be clear, clean and easy to understand with a warm tone.

Text:
"সুবা কেমন আছো? তোমার আম্মু আব্বু কেমন আছে? ভালো নি বাসার সবাই? তোমার ছোট ভাই আর বোনটা ভালো নি?"

[simple perch]

Is Arena broke right now?

[grand cliff]

I think it did

Won't let me Login

[hallow sphinx]

yeah

[grand cliff]

Zero selectable models

[steel shadow]

can't login, doesn't show any models. Anybody?

[simple perch]

All the models disappeared and every time I try uploading reference images, it just keeps hitting error.

[grand cliff]

Yeah like us

[simple perch]

Well, that's confirmation then. The site is down.

[steel shadow]

yup

[wanton jungle]

Approximately how long will it take to start working?

[grand cliff]

It just happened

So we don't know

[steel shadow]

I hope it's not another experiment

[broken horizon]

no models??

[signal pelican]

I still have my old chat but I'm not logged in? man, what is going on with this site?

[simple perch]

It's frustrating because Gemini upgraded with their sh*tty 3.1 mode so all the 2k quality is gone. I literally have to keep using Arena just to get the 2k resolution back. Lmao.

[loud crag]

Site down rip

[grand cliff]

Sit down

No models AND can't login

[calm lagoon]

Did all the models disappear only for me, or for everyone? Hi, Chat

[grand cliff]

Man I was doing good with this Story telling

[grand cliff]

For everyone here

[simple perch]

Nah, site down.

[grand cliff]

No joke

[broken horizon]

holy sweet mole, i almot got a hearatache i thougt only me or my IP banned T___T

[simple perch]

LMAO.

Felt.

[grand cliff]

Same

I would lose most of my Stories

[broken horizon]

love this discord group community, ARENA IS DEBESSSZZ

[spring kelp]

Site is down?

[steel shadow]

It's really a shittey model isn't it? It's literally a cheaper version of NB pro

[grand cliff]

Yeah.

[wind grove]

i think we're back

[calm lagoon]

I thought they thought I was a bot because I didn’t pass the CAPTCHA 🤣🤣🤣

[simple perch]

That's why you save them offline.

[grand cliff]

Well I do

[signal pelican]

why? what were you making? hmmmm?

[broken horizon]

lucky ive finish my image generation just now, now just waitin til this fix lol

[grand cliff]

Mainly the backgrounds

[simple perch]

I don't know why they had to get rid of the 2k resolution though.

[grand cliff]

the previous

And the context

But whatever happened in THAT chat specifically? gone

[broken horizon]

nothin just generating images, but I thought "this mofo generate alot, let us banned him LOL"

[signal pelican]

must be something naughty

[steel shadow]

raunchy

[signal pelican]

probably hand holding images

[broken horizon]

you do know we cant generate anything naughty on ARENA right? naughty go to Z-turbo LOL

[simple perch]

I use Arena to make visuals for my novels on Wattpad.

[broken horizon]

i used arena to make social media post lol

[signal pelican]

must be challenging to get the ai to do what you envisioned for your novel

[grand cliff]

I do too.

Well. For the stories

When you are a former writer. Your mind is wild sometimes

Just like this one.

[calm lagoon]

Failed to accept terms-of-use😭

[broken horizon]

its down

[signal pelican]

yeah, come back tomorrow... and it's the start of the weekend

[calm lagoon]

Have a good weekend, buddy

[broken horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/dave-chappelle-need-gif-21451408

gettin itch now

ya'll still got some of those Arena's??

[steel shadow]

well, good bye Arena

[simple perch]

I'm laughing because I like how I was the first one to rush in here to be like "Hey, Arena just got home shitfaced from the bar and he down."

[broken horizon]

lol

it litterally just 5 min ago. it make me restart my laptop like really thought my IP banned or somethin

[simple perch]

If you were IP banned, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be in the discord server at the same time.

[deft spruce]

WHAT is this error....

[grand cliff]

Site is down

[broken horizon]

lol

[grand cliff]

Well one can select Models now

But still can't login

[broken horizon]

arena down = end of the Ai Age

its back on guys!

[grand cliff]

Yeah.

But can't login

[signal pelican]

careful

don't rush in

[echo aurora]

Hmm I'm seeing issues as well

[simple perch]

Scroll up. Lol.

[broken horizon]

can generating but cant upload image

[grand cliff]

Same

I'll wait till I can login

[echo aurora]

Looks down to me.

[hollow mulch]

Guy is down again my account auto logged out

[grand cliff]

It is

One can select models

[simple perch]

Oh shitza.

[grand cliff]

And it looks like you are logged in

[spring kelp]

Nah everything good for me

[grand cliff]

But you are not.

[simple perch]

My account just logged out too.

Wtf.

[grand cliff]

Okay NOW its good

For me

[spring kelp]

Same

[dry kayak]

can you login now?

[broken horizon]

can generate

[grand cliff]

It automatically did

When I refreshed the site

But the Image models are gone

[hollow notch]

same

[broken horizon]

can't upload image as reference

[hollow mulch]

Guy is back im try refesh the website

[grand cliff]

What about PDF file?

It works

Unless the model you use doesn't have it

[potent glacier]

Idk why everyone is so impatient. Just wait until tomorrow or something when they iron out the bugs.

[hollow mulch]

But can't choose model anymore

[simple perch]

It's like a drug. The longer you're away from it, you'll start having withdrawals.

[grand cliff]

And now I can't login again

[hollow mulch]

Now is just showed up asstaint A on chat

[grand cliff]

But Image models are gone

[broken horizon]

not sure im using battle image, cant upload but can generate

[hollow mulch]

Let wait for sure

[dry kayak]

it came back for me

[broken horizon]

just saying its error

[dry kayak]

and went down again

bruh

[broken horizon]

yeah man

[hollow mulch]

Right now we can use ai app we download

[loud verge]

Arena is messed up

Kicked me out of my login.

[grand cliff]

Welp. Bot is up

[grand cliff]

Yeah....

[hollow mulch]

Maybe they releasing new model for website when fixing it

[loud verge]

And asks me to create new account with same email.

Then says account exists after sending verification link.

[echo aurora]

Yeah I wouldn't bother trying to login until this is solved.

I'll update the stickybot message when I know more.

[hollow mulch]

Can you add qwen, deepseek and mistral in research model?

[thorny schooner]

Well I guess chat is Certainly active this hour

[hollow mulch]

Just wait don't rush

[simple perch]

Everyone wants their drugs man.

[deft spruce]

i think this is the problem maybe...

i can't find a error except this..

[tulip flume]

same

[hollow mulch]

Use oppen router like replace of arena 🙂

[thorny schooner]

https://klipy.com/gifs/popcorn-guy-relaxing-1

Honestly i couldn't even use the website properly so I'm just going to probably enjoy this chaos while it lasts

[dry kayak]

but it already has the qwen model, right?

[deft spruce]

This warning is triggered by Radix UI's Dialog primitive (often used in Shadcn/ui). For accessibility (ARIA) compliance, every dialog must have a title. When a dialog opens, screen readers look for a title element to announce the context to the user.

If the DialogContent component renders without a corresponding DialogTitle inside it, Radix logs this error to prevent you from shipping an inaccessible modal.

How to verify
Open the modal/dialog in your application.
Inspect the DOM inside the DialogContent.
Check if a DialogTitle component (which renders an h2 by default with a specific ID) exists.
If the console error appears as soon as the dialog is triggered, the DialogTitle is missing from your JSX structure.
Suggested fix
You must add a DialogTitle component inside your DialogContent. If you do not want the title to be visible in your UI design, wrap it in a VisuallyHidden component (also provided by Radix).

css

tsx
import * as Dialog from '@radix-ui/react-dialog';
import { VisuallyHidden } from '@radix-ui/react-visually-hidden';

/* ... inside your component ... /
<Dialog.Content>
{/ If you want a visible title: */}
<Dialog.Title>Dialog Title</Dialog.Title>

{/* OR, if you want to hide it from sighted users but keep it for screen readers: */}
<VisuallyHidden>
<Dialog.Title>Description of the dialog</Dialog.Title>
</VisuallyHidden>

{/* Your other content */}
</Dialog.Content>
Use code snippets with caution

Note: If you are using Shadcn/ui, the components are usually exported as DialogTitle. Ensure DialogTitle is placed directly inside DialogContent.

Summary
Reason: Radix UI requires a DialogTitle for ARIA accessibility so screen readers can identify the modal.
Fix: Add a DialogTitle inside DialogContent.
Invisible Titles: Use the VisuallyHidden primitive if the design doesn't call for a visible header.
Data used to understand this message

[broken horizon]

local?

[grand cliff]

Okay its fixed. I think

I am logged in. And I can select image models

[broken horizon]

still cant upload image

[hollow mulch]

You guy try google ai studio?

[thorny schooner]

I my heart jumped a second when I log on and it didn't show any of chats before they just registered lmao

[loud verge]

https://aistudio.xiaomimimo.com/

Gonna use mimo until arena is back.

[grand cliff]

Okay. back to being broke.

[hollow mulch]

Mine is back

[grand cliff]

Yeah I should stick to doing whatever.

And its back again.

[thorny schooner]

Minus it broken before the Logan's thing came in

[icy gulch]

Yeah I'm gonna leave it alone till it fixes itself. lol

[echo aurora]

Good call

[grand cliff]

Broke again.

Welp....Time to play something else.

Icecrown and the other 3 stories can wait

[hollow mulch]

But failed on accept term of use

[thorny schooner]

@echo aurora You might want to make a announcement since it seems some people are making forms in the bugs section about it

[tulip flume]

Failed to accept terms-of-use

[hollow mulch]

Well waiting peak website back

[echo aurora]

Going to keep an eye on it, this may be solved quickly

[hollow mulch]

But im wonder how arena got paid model too

[thorny schooner]

And of course despite all that time waiting verification actually got worse for me it doesn't even show s workable election of pictures that is not let's be real here broken non-Frame picture when I can use it between the brakes and working

[visual panther]

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