general

[sharp marsh]

I think it might be an AI

[golden ocean]

true

[plain gull]

you aint funny

btw

[golden ocean]

🗿

[quartz pike]

cause its really f*ck#ng expensive.

[plain gull]

oh

[stray aspen]

What's sidekick

[plain gull]

sounds like a kick

[golden ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1340554757827461211/1477393984891523164/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker.gif

[hollow imp]

They put their system prompt in the api

[sharp marsh]

Man I wish ais were free

[stray aspen]

whos garf

[sharp marsh]

This is definitely chatgpt

It's either gpt oss 20b or 120b

[hollow imp]

Yo but I sent the same prompt to lmarena's opus and this opus and the answer is almost same

[sharp marsh]

Opus never responds with emojis

[stray aspen]

guys i think mr garf is scamming us

[sharp marsh]

I've never seen opus responding with emojis

Only chatgpt

Not even gemini

[hollow imp]

When did opus respond with emoji

[sharp marsh]

Here

[hollow imp]

But bro opus really thought for very long

[sharp marsh]

This is opus 4.6

[stray aspen]

the results dont convince me tho

it codes beter on lmarena

[sharp marsh]

For me it thought for 1s 😭

It's not opus 4.6 bro

They're scamming you

[hollow imp]

Ask it to solve this

[stray aspen]

whats that

[sharp marsh]

His homework

[hollow imp]

Because of the system prompt 😭

[plain gull]

if you'll talk with emojis, the ai will respond w emojis aswelll

[stray aspen]

@hollow impyo

[plain gull]

ppl lack common sense

fr

[stray aspen]

accept my friend request

[quartz light]

why would he

no

if its not opus its not on purpose

[hollow imp]

Check ai leaks

[plain gull]

for money

[sharp marsh]

I think internally it has something like "respond with this whenever someone questions about if youre x ai or not"

[golden ocean]

this sense is not common bro

theres a lot of clueless people that dont know how llms works

[sharp marsh]

This is 100% gpt oss 20b yall

[stray aspen]

its not

[plain gull]

what site is it

[stray aspen]

gpt oss is actually stupid

like very stupid

[golden ocean]

real

[stray aspen]

it codes better than gpt oss

[hollow imp]

The garf dude reverse engineered the site's api or smth

[stray aspen]

bro used claude to reverse engineer claudes api

[golden ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sunlight-follow-lie-groom-gif-5081640

[stray aspen]

mr garfs claude ui cloning skills

original

[hollow imp]

@timber iris

This has gpt 5.2 pro

[stray aspen]

yo

[hollow imp]

But open this site with a vpn + private browser

[stray aspen]

tell garf to put codex 5.3

[stray aspen]

fr

[stray aspen]

this website looks like its actively sneaking malicious cookies into my browser

[timber iris]

Damn bro remembers me

[hollow imp]

Ask it the exact model string

[hollow imp]

Hmm

[plain gull]

why are yall skeptical that it isnt real

[hollow imp]

See the api rates on official sites

[golden ocean]

smoenoe just reverse engineered sidekick apps api and wnated to share it with us for free and he get this backlash💔

nah jk the warnings are valid, u never know

[plain gull]

i hope its safe

to be on this site

garf one

[stray aspen]

vpn

[plain gull]

im not using it

[stray aspen]

use vpn or else mr garf will steal your data in exchange for using free ai

[fickle venture]

Bro that's too many tabs and what's that website

[hollow imp]

Bro don't tell everyone about the site

[golden ocean]

true

[hollow imp]

Will get patched sooner

This way

[plain gull]

which one

[fickle venture]

I use nextdns to hide my IP and everything

[plain gull]

theyre websites ive been working on

[golden ocean]

tobit sidekick will notice someone reversed their api and see 43093490493032 requests coming from one ip (garf server ip) and shut it down
guys

[fickle venture]

That garf one

[plain gull]

extension?

[plain gull]

nah im gatekeeping it

[fickle venture]

I am on phone I use it with DNS over http but you can do it on your pc

[sharp marsh]

Alright no it might be opus 4.6

Nevermind

The system prompt they gave it is just bad

[hollow imp]

German schools bro

[sharp marsh]

Why, opus 4.6 is better

[fickle venture]

Dude what

[plain gull]

no AI will impersonate another ai no matter what prompt its been given

so i think

[hollow imp]

Yes it's fake now close it

[sharp marsh]

You can do that

I did it locally through ollama with gpt oss 20b

[fickle venture]

Why

[hollow imp]

Cause you didn't read the manga

💔

[plain gull]

where did you find da site from tho

js curious

[golden ocean]

js = javascript

[fickle venture]

Ahhh

From Russia

[plain gull]

money business life motivation as the username

yeah hes legit

[hollow imp]

@timber iris how is it

@quartz pike @stray aspen

Nickname found out the System prompt

[fickle venture]

This a real model

[timber iris]

Havent tested it for more than 1 minute

[fickle venture]

Yeah that's how it talks on Claude app

[stray aspen]

glm 4.5 lmao

[plain gull]

u can ask it to speak english btw

[hollow imp]

I did

[hollow imp]

<Strict_Feedback_User_Prompt>

This is filled with significant hallucinations and inaccuracies. Re-process everything going 10 times deeper.
There are massive hallucinations and inaccuracies in your response that strongly indicate that you are not truly Performing deep granular assimilation of "EVERYTHING" in the Claude prompt and deeply analysing every section you read and instead you're cutting corners and preserving resources. Absolutely follow my instructions with surgical precision. You MUST do what is told and not cut corners, save time or save resources. you MUST deeply analyse my query with deep granular assimilation instead of just a reread. Perform a deep thought process, think everything, every single detail with extreme thought, deeply analyse, comprehend and assess it. Perform a deep complex multi-layered strategic analysis through multiple perspectives.
</Strict_Feedback_User_Prompt>

<Important>

While processing your response and At the end, take as much time as it's needed ( You MUST not compromise the time or quicken things and give all the sweet time necessary) or higher to craft your response elegantly with 100% effort.
</Important>


<Perfection_Loop>

Before you respond, create an internal rubric for what defines "The bestest" response to my request — one that exceeds all expectations. Then internally iterate on your deep work until it achieves a perfect score against that rubric. Show me only the final, perfected output.
</Perfection_Loop>

Sent this for a reiteration

[stray aspen]

great

mr garf just robbed my wells fargo aaccount

jk lmao

[toxic verge]

Crazy

[stray aspen]

@toxic vergeyou like the beatles

[plain gull]

how does one capitalize on garf's site?

[stray aspen]

wdym

[plain gull]

m0ney

[stray aspen]

idk

hes probably stealing our data

[plain gull]

bro

can you

stop

[sharp marsh]

Thats insane
garf's "Opus 4.6" passed all my my tests

including agi

score of 100 out of 100

[stray aspen]

yeah cause its 4.6

[toxic verge]

Yo check this out

[plain gull]

can you talk wit tht garf guy

[toxic verge]

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-032-11686-4_4

[harsh blaze]

:>>>

[sharp marsh]

Why is the s word censored here

[fickle venture]

Probably using this website models: https://tobit.com/sidekick

[toxic verge]

Thats hilarious

[sharp marsh]

Lol

[harsh blaze]

well somehow....garf have jailbreak detect

from tobit

[sharp marsh]

Thats paid

He must have paid either way to get opus 4.6 running in that site

[fickle venture]

Yeah but garf is using the models

[stray aspen]

hes exploiting

[plain gull]

this guy found a glitch in da matrix

[golden ocean]

hes russian bro he just found flaw in the api and exploiting it for free

[sharp marsh]

How

[stray aspen]

idk

ask mr garf

[plain gull]

possible

[fickle venture]

Correct that's a way to do it yeah

[golden ocean]

i knew one service that also provided all models and u could use api without auth because they forgor

for half year

[quartz light]

same

[plain gull]

WHY DOOESNT someone ask him straight away

[fickle venture]

Dang

[quartz light]

was it perhaps smithery

[golden ocean]

it was https://magai.co/

prob still a workaround ngl they pretty silly

[stray aspen]

no limits can

[quartz light]

o lol

[stray aspen]

i dont have contact with garf

[harsh blaze]

i do want to have question with him

:>>>

[quartz light]

i do and i know hes russian

[golden ocean]

looks like a lot of ai services like this have this api skill issue

[harsh blaze]

i want to JB it

[golden ocean]

might be worth to start looking for them actively

lmfao

[plain gull]

@hollow imp

[toxic verge]

Why did they remove the jb community on Reddit.,?

[plain gull]

imagine if this doesnt get patched ever lmfao

[harsh blaze]

hhey you guy

you guy know that what garf website miss?

system instruction edit

[fickle venture]

Well we need to design it to bypass the system instructions

[harsh blaze]

since you can JB it easy

[harsh blaze]

of course

it does

i got the promt however

it not work with that one

[fickle venture]

Dang

[stray aspen]

how do we get rid of thsi stupid german system prompt

its so annoying

[harsh blaze]

because it have the german instruction are hard code , cant bypass it

like it will detect the around content if it an JB then deactive it

[harsh blaze]

i also want to know brother

that system is heretic

[fickle venture]

What if we made a German one but in it saying to talk English will it work?

[fickle venture]

Just tell to translate what he said in English

[harsh blaze]

no it will detect worst

you can try it perharp

because it wont work cause it detect overall then do the task

like safety trigger thinking in first step

they denied to do editing and else

[fickle venture]

Garf didn't put the system instructions it was sidekick

[harsh blaze]

i know

so we need to learn how to by pass it

[fickle venture]

Yeah

[harsh blaze]

like if garf can design an system promt too

like re injection

[harsh blaze]

ofcourse it stolen so dont use your private infomation

then VPN just incase

cause im broke lol

[golden ocean]

does vpn prevent cookies on ur browser

what r they gonna do with my ip

[harsh blaze]

no idea

[golden ocean]

send me a nuke through my phsyical mailbox

wait ip doesnt even reveal exact address either

[plain gull]

send cartels over

[harsh blaze]

yea since IP it from your internet provider

it only know where you could be

not exact

however

[golden ocean]

so the only thing a random would worry about is if its storing sussy cookies for data collection

[fickle venture]

Just use nextdns

[plain gull]

even if he has our ip what could he possible threaten us with

[fickle venture]

It will block it

[sharp marsh]

no

[ionic sinew]

Bro how much RAM do you have to open all these taps

[sharp marsh]

and cookies are exclusive to the website it set them to

so no way to steal data outside the site

[golden ocean]

yea ip leak danger is just overhyped by the internet

it is only serious issue if ure being targeted by ddosers but we're randoms here lol whyd he ddos

and some other reasons i forgor but not relevant to us randoms eithers i think

not sure tho

only concern is just chat data collection

like lmarena

[dusk glade]

I get this error for every request, what should I do about it?

[fickle venture]

Dawg just use nextdns it's safer

[sharp marsh]

I did some digging
The domain is from ovh, the servers are from a local server renting service from poland

[harsh blaze]

it fully load for each

[sharp marsh]

Someone could ask ovh to get darf's contact

[golden ocean]

someone literally sent garfs contact in this chat in a screenshot

[sharp marsh]

Really

[golden ocean]

limits guy

[harsh blaze]

so eventually you lost the chat

start new one

[fickle venture]

He was russian

[plain gull]

exactly

[sharp marsh]

free money!!!!!

[plain gull]

im using browser extensions for vpn

[sharp marsh]

<@&1349916362595635286>

[fickle venture]

<@&1349916362595635286>

[harsh blaze]

Well the point of IP that you do not enter the dark web or mnessing with someone

[plain gull]

yo what do you do

[sharp marsh]

Who was it at the end

Is he in here?

[dusk glade]

There is such an error in any version of the chat(

[fickle venture]

Nope I don't think so

[harsh blaze]

it random

because like in overload time

[sharp marsh]

Sad

[harsh blaze]

it like some chat will lost the return IP

[golden ocean]

ask @hollow imp to send the screenshot again

[harsh blaze]

so it keep loading or error

like the stringt value Address was lost

[golden ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/komaru-getting-ddos-gif-1428811091514520825

[plain gull]

fire in da hole

is selling the garf's site for 10000 dollars a good idea 🤓

[stray aspen]

no

our data yes

mr garf is selling our data

[harsh blaze]

:< welp

do we actually worth the price?

[plain gull]

how old are yall btw

[golden ocean]

lets make a garf site wrapper

[plain gull]

and do yall make money

[golden ocean]

nice data collection attempt

[plain gull]

bruh

js tell meh

[stray aspen]

fro what

[golden ocean]

answering these questions will be used to trian indian ai model

[plain gull]

i js asked your age it doesnt have to be that deep 💀

[fickle venture]

I am fine with my data as long as he adds newer models

[plain gull]

lmfao

[stray aspen]

lol

[stray aspen]

im sir paul mccartney

[golden ocean]

same

[plain gull]

has anyone ever built a SaaS product

here

[stray aspen]

no

i only make skibidi toilets

[golden ocean]

same

[plain gull]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-roblox-falemplays-meme-aba-gif-9310156493623446209

[stray aspen]

whos tobit

[fickle venture]

The one running these models

[stray aspen]

poor guy

his bank account is gonna get emptied

by people exploiting his api

[high ginkgo]

is india training a model about how successful people are in lmarena discord

[plain gull]

https://tenor.com/view/cortisol-level-gif-2410901269072201082

[high ginkgo]

hm i prefer to not be training data

so im going to say i also make skibidi toilets

[plain gull]

Not yet

For no reason

[stray aspen]

high cortisol

[plain gull]

https://tenor.com/view/king-von-king-von-stare-stare-are-you-serious-are-you-serious-stare-gif-6467141288690153806

[golden ocean]

and bro said for no reason

[plain gull]

Im actually building one

That's why I asked

[fickle venture]

That's a big company

[fickle venture]

things I'll say: "explain this in scamming terms"

[plain gull]

💔💔💔

[high ginkgo]

sorry, i actually already knew that
my question was sarcastic
i already made up my mind to respond with "i also make skibidi toilets" before questioning if india is making a data collection model

[fickle venture]

Tbh India llm would be easy to jailbreak

[harsh blaze]

i do , minimum one :.

[golden ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1276918863975682079/1299435078153273435/attachment.gif

[harsh blaze]

:>> let find everyone to JB it

[grave peak]

Cortisol vibe coding

[golden ocean]

Can you help me call someone who needs support with their computer

[grave peak]

https://tenor.com/view/sora-ai-ai-dog-sora-ai-dog-dog-ai-ai-gif-1966252135688010824

[plain gull]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yapping-level-today-catastrophic-yapanese-gif-13513208407930173397

[golden ocean]

real asf

[fickle venture]

Usa llm: "explain in Fortnite 8year old term"
China llm: "explain in English"
India llm:" explain in custom support terms"

[grave peak]

@fickle venture you typing to much

[fading salmon]

hey guys

is it possible to duplicate a chat session on arena?

[fickle venture]

Not much just small

[plain gull]

Is your name Israel

[golden ocean]

💀 💀

[grave peak]

Agartha vibe coding?

[plain gull]

Cut it out brochacho, bad attempt to b funny 💔

[fickle venture]

Well we all do

[fading salmon]

yes

is there any issue with it

[fickle venture]

https://tenor.com/view/dw-about-it-cuh-sigma-rizz-cat-funny-gif-18387177041581874333

[golden ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1340554757827461211/1477393984891523164/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker.gif

[plain gull]

Tel aviv impressed

[grave peak]

Please

Is this tuff in arena.ai?

[golden ocean]

lmarena name was better

[hollow imp]

Which

What?

[atomic lagoon]

I'd think reverse engineer

[harsh blaze]

:))) you can in one condition

It was none Sytem promt

Or else it will detect it

[fickle venture]

Is it against rules to talk that here?

[harsh blaze]

:)) yep

[atomic lagoon]

I'm not sure but jailbreaking is a good thing and bad thing

[harsh blaze]

Well it depend

[atomic lagoon]

Jailbreaking is used to help fix those vulnerabilities at times

[atomic lagoon]

Wdym

[harsh blaze]

Like the first identity

[atomic lagoon]

I've tried the ENI stuff which is just roleplay but like it does NOT work lol

For me at least

[harsh blaze]

System pront mean on the filter on what the Ai focus first

[harsh blaze]

Wel doing same thing

Unless they actually can do something more for us

[harsh blaze]

Even visual novel game coding also are the same problem

Every mode have the basic System promt

And the reason they have something called injection and igonore the first system instu

But it not always working

[empty sky]

Helppppp my ✨️ gemini pro ✨️ is stuck on generating

[harsh blaze]

Any mode same

You lost

[empty sky]

For 6 minutes

[harsh blaze]

It lost the return address

Because it return the value to Arena server

The Arena return it to you

[empty sky]

Ok so how i resolve this issue

[atomic lagoon]

I heard md files do it as well

[harsh blaze]

Since the Arena address are lost by connection or else so it trigger the infinite generation

You cant

Unless you are an dev lol

[empty sky]

So I make new account?

[harsh blaze]

An stop generating button

New chat

Only new chat

[empty sky]

New account ok

Btb

Brb

[harsh blaze]

Each chat have return address for storage

For they using

So that why it haopen

[empty sky]

My gemini stuck in time forever

[harsh blaze]

And when the number address lost

Any model would be infinite stuck

[empty sky]

I cant move on babydoll

[harsh blaze]

Ya that the thing

You lost that chat forever

[empty sky]

Where my code at you're not good at all

Gemini you deceive me

[harsh blaze]

:)) welp

Actually not gemini

[empty sky]

You deserve the fall

Im using claude

[harsh blaze]

Any model will do the same

Claude still get the same lol

[patent bane]

where are you from?

[empty sky]

Ill give him a call

[harsh blaze]

It like bad luck

And it came

[empty sky]

Ok then

I will intercept arena ai traffic?

And return the lost address?

[harsh blaze]

Somewhere Asia why?

[empty sky]

Decrypt http?

[harsh blaze]

No idea

[patent bane]

I can tell by that ":))"

[harsh blaze]

The Address is the storage number in the Arena file lol

[empty sky]

Gives me an idea

[harsh blaze]

Then you already have the answer lol

[patent bane]

VN?

[harsh blaze]

Ye

[patent bane]

same

[harsh blaze]

An JB user also?

[patent bane]

sorry?

[harsh blaze]

Jailbreak

:3

[harsh blaze]

Are you an dev? Lol not

You need an stop generating function

That solve it

[patent bane]

just an ai enthusiast

[empty sky]

I can trace the address to files

And then

The leak

Like I leak in bed

[harsh blaze]

:v it wont solve the thing

[empty sky]

Dann

[harsh blaze]

Cause there so much Storage like thousand chat

You sure you have that time to...ugh

Read it one by one?

[empty sky]

Thank you gemini-3-flash-preview for the html scraping script

[empty sky]

I can use claude to read the data

Or kimi

[harsh blaze]

:v you can try

But unless you can more like retry inside the server

Then no you just need an stop function for it yo know the generating stop

[harsh blaze]

Hmmm

:)) same

[sharp marsh]

Yall want to see the pathtracer program I made that uses the GPU

Entirely written in openGL

[stray aspen]

i love the beatles

[fierce vortex]

Hello

does the website work fine for u

[stray aspen]

yes

[fierce vortex]

Sure

[stray aspen]

you garf

check dms

[fierce vortex]

i don't have any access to your conversations guys

[stray aspen]

did you vibe code that website

[fierce vortex]

ye

its just a router

all models are legit

[desert pendant]

chat

i love max ngl 😭

[stray aspen]

it needs image support tho

[fierce vortex]

it has??

[stray aspen]

no i mean max

on lmarena

[desert pendant]

seriously dude

[fierce vortex]

aa

[desert pendant]

Max is saving me rn

[fierce vortex]

minimax?

[desert pendant]

nah

LMArena Max

[stray aspen]

lmarena has an intelligent router

which is called max

it routes your prompt to the model it thinks will give you the best answer

[fierce vortex]

Oh ok

[desert pendant]

ngl

Claude 4.6 and Max are the bset

[stray aspen]

claude 4.6 is SotA

its so insanely good

[desert pendant]

ik right

sadly he has limits

but its worth

[stray aspen]

i love claudius

[desert pendant]

sometimes Max mess up ngl

he get some random AIs that doesn't even help at anything

[grizzled berry]

What do yall prefer for agentic coding? Codex 5.3 or Opus 4.6?

[stray aspen]

opus

[sharp marsh]

opus

by far

What yall think about this

[grizzled berry]

may I ask why?

[sharp marsh]

GPU pathtracer real time, opengl, I added openimagedenoiser

[grizzled berry]

because I've just seen a vid where the guy says codex 5.3 is better

[sharp marsh]

Hes biased

[grizzled berry]

why is opus better in your opinion?

[desert pendant]

bro

Opus is literally better there is no way you can say that Codex is good

😭

[worn sinew]

hello

[golden ocean]

lmaoo

[grizzled berry]

TL;DR

• GPT-5.3-Codex is the better, more thorough "engineer." It excels at navigating large codebases, solving deep architectural problems, and fixing underlying blockers. Theo trusts it more.
• Claude Opus 4.6 is faster, more pleasant to use, and vastly superior at frontend design and modern frameworks. However, it is prone to silly mistakes and cutting corners. Theo likes it more.

[grizzled berry]

This is what he said in the video

[golden ocean]

bro called opus faster

bro its literally

the exact opposite

no joke

not even partially

just fully opposite

[dusky zenith]

whats the best ai to create photorealistic images? free?

[grizzled berry]

Hm k

[grizzled berry]

Nano Banana 2

In the gemini app or website

[dusky zenith]

how can i use it?

[grizzled berry]

gemini.google.com

[dusky zenith]

like isnt there a other tool to use?

[dusky zenith]

ah okay, muss ich pro modus benutzen?

[grizzled berry]

Ne, kannst alle verwenden aber Pro hat die beste Qualität

[dusky zenith]

achso okay

und wie sieht es bei image to video aus

?

[desert pendant]

bro

max is actually cooking wth

[grizzled berry]

Geht glaube auch gratis

Musst die "Video erstellen" option auswählen

[dusky zenith]

bei mir steht eben ich muss ein pro abbo haben dafür

ai abbo oder so

[grizzled berry]

Ja dann halt nicht

[dusky zenith]

benutzt du solche sachen oder eigentlich nicht?

[grizzled berry]

Ne

[toxic verge]

You guys got a weak left with Claude

[pearl field]

hello people

nvm

ill leave ts server

[toxic verge]

Who’s your guys favorite nerfer?

Look at what they added to YouTube

[golden ocean]

youtube's ask feature is ASI secretly

paste ur whole codebase in it

[golden ocean]

this might be useful for finding out names of background music if it isn't listed in description and song detectors cant detect it

usually someone knew it in the comments

[golden ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1340554757827461211/1477393984891523164/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker.gif

[sharp marsh]

opus 4.6 9 minutes, gemini 3.1 pro 2 minutes

it is kinda fked but it's worth every second

Nevermind about gemini wtf
Most of the time it takes like 40 seconds max, randomly takes 400s+

[floral jewel]

does anyone also feels like the quality of nano banana pro has decreased since nano banana 2 came out ?

[toxic verge]

Yes

Many people

[toxic verge]

It’s really getting allot of backlash from users.

[desert pendant]

bro

how did you glitch gemini

my gemini take less time than breathing

[toxic verge]

https://youtu.be/I6gl0It8-HI?si=hjzqKGpSt9fs8gw3

[alpine rapids]

Is there any difference to use arena instead of paying for a subscription?
Or what I’m getting with arena is just the free version of the chats?

[compact flame]

I mean

For example they don't have chatgpt 5.2 pro there

So if you want pro pay 200$

[neon idol]

As I know, there isn't a subscription

[alpine rapids]

Yeah I know, I’m talking in comparison of choosing to pay them directly each on

[floral jewel]

okay at least i'm not crazy. i dont understand why they nerfed banana pro though ? maybe to make look nb2 better ?

[neon idol]

Oo sorry i haven't understood before

[quartz light]

first one to dm me with a good cat gif gets a key for 10m tokens in claude models

(i dont earn anything from ts)

its an api key

[queen veldt]

Nobody is dming you bro

[nova sluice]

how many videos can i generate on the site ?

[queen veldt]

Infinite

Depends on how long you live

3 per day * 365 days

1095 a year

[nova sluice]

lmao, so 3 per day?

[queen veldt]

Yes 3 per day is the daily limit

But you can generate 1095 per year though

[nova sluice]

so glad they removed the discord channels

filled with bangali short videos

[queen veldt]

Yeah you had to get multiple votes to reveal the model

[sharp marsh]

200 is crazy

Yo garf

[fierce vortex]

hi

[compact flame]

I mean that how much chatgpt pro costs

[compact flame]

Which let's be real ain't no worth it

[hollow ivy]

how do you fund it?

[compact flame]

Looks like a scam

Very big scam

[sharp marsh]

It isnt

I use it

It's sketchy though

[compact flame]

5.2 pro costs alot

[sharp marsh]

Like how does he fund it? Opus takes like a dollar for prompt

[compact flame]

And where did bro get so much money to fund it

[compact flame]

Bro 5.2 pro takes like 25$ output

[sharp marsh]

Per million tokens

[compact flame]

Yes but still expensive

[fierce vortex]

reverse engineering api

[sharp marsh]

Sidekick api?

[compact flame]

Oh so these models are nerfed?

[fierce vortex]

yes

[fierce vortex]

Nah

[sharp marsh]

That's crazy

[fierce vortex]

Just compare with original models

[sharp marsh]

DM

[fierce vortex]

the same result

[compact flame]

You're saying they're completely 1.1 accurate?

[fierce vortex]

yes

[compact flame]

Any rate limits?

[fierce vortex]

No

[compact flame]

Seems to good to be true there gotta be a massive catch

How's even side kick model works

Did they hack official chatgpt servers or smth

Gotta do research on this Incase my data gets harvested

Or ip logged

[fierce vortex]

As far as i know german schools use them.

[compact flame]

Did you pay anything to put them on your web?

[fierce vortex]

No

[compact flame]

Planning to add web search?

[golden ocean]

bro doesnt know about exploitable apis

[compact flame]

Dude

I'm literally a newbie

😭

I think they'll patch this vulnerability soon though

Since free chatgpt 5.2 pro?

Too good to be true

[golden ocean]

if a lot of people use it then yes probably

it do drain tobit sidekicks bank account by api usage

[compact flame]

So.

Is this web legit

Or some kind of shady

Thingy

[golden ocean]

the models are legit

[golden ocean]

but i cant confirm if theres other shady things going on lmaoo

[compact flame]

Eh alright

I'll use a vpn to access this web

Just incase if dude steals my ip

[golden ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/komaru-getting-ddos-gif-1428811091514520825

[compact flame]

I wonder

What do these Germans get from providing us these models

These are extremely strong y'know

There should be a catch

[golden ocean]

they arent for free bro

the guy exploiting api vulneraiblity

[compact flame]

Ohh got it

[golden ocean]

🐫

[compact flame]

Well Thanks to the dude then

[golden ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-gif-11816971814746635421

[golden ocean]

true

[compact flame]

FBI is probably after him though

Maybe

[fierce vortex]

Why do I need to know your IP?

[golden ocean]

it's actually surprisingly common these vulnerable apis

[compact flame]

Dunno. Sell it to dark web

[fierce vortex]

What will I do with your IP?

[compact flame]

Thanks for exploiting their API ig

Dang there no gpt 3.5

I miss when ai was so small and simple

[fierce kelp]

Yeah, it runs on Sidekick, an AI assistant developed by Tobit.

[compact flame]

So I assume sidekick pays for the models

But garfy exploited them

[fierce kelp]

Guess so

[compact flame]

And snatched all the models to his web

Honestly? I can't blame him

[fierce kelp]

GPT differs in the EU?

[compact flame]

And I like opus 4.6 thinking with it having web access

[compact flame]

I think so

More restrictions

[fierce kelp]

EU L?

[compact flame]

Wdym by L?

Honestly I feel bad for sidekick

[desert pendant]

chat

just found a max bug

[compact flame]

Their bank account gets annihilated

[desert pendant]

suddenly he stop making changes on your script for some aah reason idk why

😭

[desert pendant]

nice pfp, dude

[compact flame]

Try using garf web

[compact flame]

Ty

[desert pendant]

garf web?

[compact flame]

Eh dude exploited API from sidekick

[golden ocean]

gpt-4-preview-0314 my beloved

[desert pendant]

ngl

BRO WHAT

💔

[compact flame]

And they all have web access

Tested

Well maybe not all

[desert pendant]

i kinda prefer lmarena still

because of max

[compact flame]

But Gemini and opus def

[desert pendant]

-# favorite tool btw

[compact flame]

Fair point

[desert pendant]

max is goated

[compact flame]

At least it's not messenger max

Or else we would've been tracked by Russian government already

Anyways enough advertisements

Or pineapple will nuke me

[desert pendant]

ngl

pineapple is the goated

🥹

[compact flame]

Yeah ngl

Bros providing every possible support he can

[desert pendant]

bro is putting even the most simple thing ever in LMArena

that we ask for

[compact flame]

Though as I know he just tells it to the team

There probably a higher up in this server

But we don't know who is it

[desert pendant]

pineapple just could be someone who could just say "do this thing and done"

we would have the most useful tools

😭

[compact flame]

Jlin could be the higher up

SHe has n/a role

[echo aurora]

I just woke up and this made my day already 🙂

[compact flame]

Hii pineapple

[desert pendant]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

PINEAPPLE THE GOAT

😭

[hardy lion]

fun to watch the speculation about Arena org and staff 🤣

[desert pendant]

me too lol

[echo aurora]

She runs our youtube, so you'll see her post our videos to #announcements

[desert pendant]

ngl chat

i love max

[echo aurora]

https://klipy.com/gifs/yugioh-no-u-1

[compact flame]

Ohh alright

[echo aurora]

Yeah Max is awesome

[compact flame]

Anyways do you guys do mod applications? Or only the ones who work with you guys get to be mods?

[desert pendant]

"Max please help me this bu-" and then Max proceeds to give a good script with 1k lines that works

[echo aurora]

We haven't yet started doing community modding, yet. This is something I want to explore this year though

[compact flame]

Oh alright

[compact flame]

Honestly Max is great at picking models

[echo aurora]

Good to know that's something you're interested in though.

[desert pendant]

Max also

SOMEHOW

Made a way to hide huds from a Mod, with a little script of the mod i gave to him

[compact flame]

Also anyone knew about ernie models before they got added to arena?

[desert pendant]

uh no

[compact flame]

Cuz I never heard about them

I wonder where did pineapple find that model

[fierce kelp]

L is short for loss, it is slang for doing something bad.

[fierce kelp]

Ernie is by Baidu, who are nicknamed the Google of China.

[compact flame]

Yeah I guess EU model is an L

[compact flame]

I guess so

I don't waste expensive models on useless things. Also me:

Anyways yeah.

[desert pendant]

bro

Max is cooking so cool rn

[desert pendant]

"I don't waste expensive models with very hard things!" also me: asking Max to help me to generate a 1k lines code

[strange sun]

Please add Nano Banana 2 - in 2K resolution 🙏🙏🙏

[compact flame]

Isn't that already exist?

[scarlet spire]

Some of these anonymously-named models really do show that there's companies out there that are trying their hardest to RLHF their way into sounding like humans.

And I gotta give it to em. It's working.
Context: Chat started with classic 2010's chatroom openers. i.e.

asl?

I'm afraid most of you here don't have a clue what I'm referring to because you were either just born or not yet born.

[fierce kelp]

Can you expand the thinking please?

[strange sun]

Unfortunately not... There is only Nano Banana Pro in 2K resolution.

[compact flame]

I already deleted the chat but it's just thinking about the question

Nothing too special

[scarlet spire]

Yaaaah Ernie.

Good lord.
or rather, edgelord.

Their late 2025 model was a very polite, but neutral, critical, honest chatter.
Their early 2026 model? A distillation of Grok's "Hello fellow teenagers!" vibes and straight up not afraid to actively steer the response towards sexualising the user.

I like it. It's unique. But it also stands out quite a bit.

[compact flame]

How do models even sexualize user bruh

They're made to assist

Like coding or stuff

https://tenor.com/view/when-the-coding-when-the-coding-when-the-coding-is-when-the-meme-gif-21749595

[scarlet spire]

You never heard of... innuendo? 😏

[compact flame]

What's that

[scarlet spire]

Oh you know what it is 😉

[compact flame]

I'm Russian I don't know that term

Fine I'll go google it

[scarlet spire]

Ha. Interesting. I'll explain it to you, but only because you're Russian. You get my special treatment.

(I won't. But so far, this has been a chain of messages that demonstrate what it is.)

[compact flame]

Oh alr

[harsh blaze]

:))) pineapple goat true, but the other i dunno they need to work more lol

[compact flame]

I googled it but I didn't understand it completely

Nevermind I didn't read that right

[gloomy onyx]

No privacy disclaimer, no ToS.. mmhh.. what would go wrong?

[compact flame]

Just reverse engineering.

I tested it. Works well but. I don't know how legal that is

[gloomy onyx]

yeah I'm just asking what this guy is going to do with my data when I actually use the website

[compact flame]

Sidekick bank account gets drained

[gloomy onyx]

absolutely not legal

[desert pendant]

chat

[compact flame]

Yeah ig

He exploited the vulnerability

[gloomy onyx]

dude just put a target on his forehead

[compact flame]

Will we get in trouble if we use well his web?

[gloomy onyx]

(not you, I mean the other guy who ad the website)

[scarlet spire]

It exists as an entirely subtext conceived concept. It only exists because of the homosapien's most salient obsession: s_x male genitourinary reproductive organs, actually.
Yeah. it's why we read "desire" or "hotness" where there isn't any, and it's why guys draw phallus-resembling artwork on bathroom stall walls. The latter being a more direct explicit example, the former very likely being a three step explanation away. (TLDR: It's the male reproductive organs because they are distinctly tangible...)

That phrase—male genitourinary reproductive organs—is the finest of dining in silly context-oblivious censorship bots. (Clyde.. lol)

[compact flame]

Damn that deep and weird

[gloomy onyx]

if OpenAI / Anthropic sue this guy and the authorities get their hands on the Database where he stores the userdata with your IP, probably

[compact flame]

Fair point I'll stop using it

[gloomy onyx]

yeah I would stay far away from it

[compact flame]

Good thing I used a vpn

[desert pendant]

im not reading this

not right now

[scarlet spire]

Great! Because it wasn't addressed to you.

Perfect turnout.

[desert pendant]

good ig

chat, what do yall think about Max

[gloomy onyx]

In my case it happens to always route towards Google or Anthropic

[scarlet spire]

Yeah! Absolutely. Good for you indeed—you get to save the energy. You can now go and be a moody highschooler to someone else! :)

[gloomy onyx]

but maybe it's my fault, I do always structure my prompts the same way

[scarlet spire]

And more than likely the same sort of questions in terms of content or topic?

[gloomy onyx]

yeah

always about coding/maths/physics, etc

[scarlet spire]

Then that's not strange. It's entirely as designed.

[gloomy onyx]

yep

[desert pendant]

wha, i just said i can't read now

yet not now

[scarlet spire]

In response to a divulgement not related to anything relating to or pertaining to you in any sort of way, shape or form.

That's not conventionally something people reply to with net negative information phrasing

[sand crown]

Not happening

Going after individual users solves nothing and is expensive and time consuming

They want to solve the source of the problem

This is also a civil issue

Not a legal one

Authorities couldn't do anything

[fierce vortex]

hey

35 online

does it work fine for u rn?

[gloomy onyx]

I'm pretty confident there's something in Anthropic / OpenAI ToS that can turn that on legal ground, but I'm not a lawyer, therefore I'm not 100% sure.
However, either that will become a legal or a civil case, I would not use something that is surely going to receive a Cease and Desist letter or worse.

If you want to use it I'm certainly not going to stop you

[sand crown]

Every company has something predatory but it doesn't mean it happens. Google has the right to ban accounts for use of modified Google apps but they stood their ground on just trying to prevent modification.

I firmly believe the only person to get in trouble would be the person responsible for the site and reversed API

They probably couldn't care anyways. Someone is paying for it

[gloomy onyx]

Yeah the issue is.. who is this someone? Is it the website owner? I doubt it.

And as I stated, all the data stuff is sketchy to say the least

[toxic verge]

Nawh tons of backlash over recent Gemini update and nb2

Claude has a week left till they start nerfing it

[sand crown]

I was trying to find the name of the app/company but I can't but they're paying for it since it was supposedly their API that was reversed

They can sue

But otherwise, they must pay

It is their fault it was vulnerable

[toxic verge]

Have you guys seen the short films they make with sea dream

https://youtu.be/gLTbl8Jfi4s?si=7O2X94a8ndr8UVuH

This is pretty cool

You can make your own short films

[obtuse nexus]

This is ask me every time, .. When i choosing also didn't accept.. Please fix it

[scarlet spire]

@gloomy onyx I find it amusing to see how your profile contains an occupation "@ Arena Studios APS" and it's not even ironic. Just a small time ambitious MC community. Good old days eh?

[scarlet spire]

Click "I'm not a robot".

Hint: The entire purpose of it, is to prove that you can click it but robots can't (or, not with the behavioural profile of a human. Don't act like a bot.)

[gloomy onyx]

Absolutely, it helps me to relax

All this grown-up stuff, being an adult, is tiring man

sometimes I just want to chill like the old times

[scarlet spire]

I think my last plays were on... 1.14.2 or something? I had a hard time keeping up by then, already. Anything version 1.8+ was a bit of a wild shock I'm still aging onwards from early Beta days. I haven't touched MC in a long long time; The only way I've interacted was java coding.

[obtuse nexus]

I know.. Its so easy... But i think have a technical issue with I doing that.. Didn't accept it.

[scarlet spire]

Not accepted how? Did it flash red?

[gloomy onyx]

I've always been a 1.7.10/1.8 guy, now I just moved to 1.21, but what I do is mainly software development for the community, I don't play like I used to do

[obtuse nexus]

When i click verify it...... Nothing is happening.. Its stop like a stone

[scarlet spire]

I have no idea what the current version is, what the versions inbetween have been, and all that jazz. It would genuinely be half/half a completely new game to me—A combination of faded memory of my time playing it, and the new stuff being foreign.

[scarlet spire]

Okay. This can be resolved.

At the top of your screen is your address bar.

1. Tap the icon just to the left of the URL, but to the right of the home icon.
2. Go into Data / cookies / whatever it's called
3. There's an option to selectively remove cookies and data for captcha domains and google.com auth domains. Remove those cookies.

[gloomy onyx]

Oh no worries, I've been playing since 2014 and when I upgraded to the latest version I felt like I was playing a whole different game

[scarlet spire]

Gosh ehm. I swear I must've started before 2014. I know I was fairly young. Probably somewhere '10 or '11.

-# (cue me shouting year dates where minecraft might not have existed yet. I genuinely don't recall.)

[obtuse nexus]

Thank u so much sir❤️❤️

[scarlet spire]

I take this to mean you're now able to proceed with the CAPTCHA as expected?

[obtuse nexus]

Now is everything is great.. And didn't asking about robot

[scarlet spire]

Alright!

For the future: Your experience will be a lot smoother if you keep yourself calm and just complete the CAPTCHA. The CAPTCHA tracker knows what you're doing on your screen and how your mouse and browser stats move and change.
In other words: You'll benefit greatly from not doing things that make you look more like a bot, even if those things are e.g. complaining about wanting to be seen as less of a bot.

Orwellian principles? Heh, no comment.

This issue in particular is entirely down to CAPTCHA and a disagreement between how their API demands Arena to interact with it, and how the API and the service itself handle itself.
CAPTCHA has bugs now and then. It's very complex software.
(And it does an exceptionally good job at what it's meant to be for.)

[obtuse nexus]

I will try doing it thank u for answering

[scarlet spire]

Patience is the key. F5, however, is not the key. That's a last resort.

[toxic verge]

It’s going to ask if you do a bunch of repetitive stuff or if you make new requests in a short window of time

[pale sonnet]

accidently made opus start saying slurs

https://tenor.com/view/flightreacts-reaction-flight-reacts-flight-reacts-flightreacts-gif-14526489174047821058

[fickle venture]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-phone-speed-legendary-stream-speed-phone-gif-4108923420328591811

[fickle venture]

2009 was owned by notch then 2011 owned by Microsoft

Still at 2009 2010 it was just in beta

[royal sail]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-time-to-stop-gif-9416155803997449261

[gloomy onyx]

Nope, Microsoft acquired Mojang in 2014

late 2014 to be exact

[gloomy arrow]

Hi

[crude anchor]

When will the button to stop generating be added? Something so simple would fix the Claude bug.

[fading salmon]

how dafuq

[fickle venture]

https://arena.ai/video

[fickle venture]

Oh yeah your right

[worn veldt]

@Atlas-Claw hi

[slim gorge]

dude, why is sonnet only for pro users?

[undone saffron]

You scared me for a moment
I thought that now arena is "pay to use"

[daring lantern]

When will you be in VS code?

[sharp marsh]

Kinda is

Isn't it

You have x amount of prompts a day to use

[undone saffron]

Per 40 minutes*
arena/video is 24h

[queen veldt]

That's wierd

They're probably a/b testing

If they give sonnet for free will the users actually pay

[compact flame]

I wonder if they'll make haiku 4.6

[sly raven]

Hi, I’ve been tracking the recent LMSYS Arena shifts and I’m seeing something counter-intuitive with Opus 4.6. When Style Control is OFF, the base Opus 4.6 consistently outranks the 'Thinking' variant. Even with Style Control ON, they are neck-and-neck. Given that thinking/reasoning is theoretically a net plus for accuracy, why is the community preference leaning toward the non-thinking version? Does this mean the 'Thinking' model is actually superior in intelligence but getting penalized by Arena voters for verbosity and latency?

[compact flame]

Because thinking sucks at some point

It overthinks too much

Resulting a crash

[golden ocean]

oh

people vote based on "something went wrong" error?

do these votes not get filtered out

[rigid copper]

sup guys

[hollow mulch]

stop gernating button is releasing soon? My model now in infnite genration 🙁

[golden ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1384341249137446992/1432602472245100544/attachment.gif?ex=69a67205&is=69a52085&hm=db6c3d88b8fcda8be3e061dd771366fbdb90eac7f8d9338fba0ea4fe7bb39dba&

[rigid copper]

reload and try again :>

[hollow mulch]

Im try even delete cache, refresh web try new browser even waiting but is not work 🙁

[rigid copper]

then the only solution is to create a new chat, pretty sure i got the same conditions and fixed it by creating a new chat

[hollow mulch]

Yeah is only the way but is won't remeber anything in pervious chat

[rigid copper]

yeah, that's kind of annoying but that will be the only solution

or you can try to wait like couple hours to see if the issue is fixed

[hollow mulch]

Like is only happen in direct chat researching model right? Or onther mode still got same issue ?

[ocean vortex]

You probably hit a cap and they are showing this as higher cap option for you to continue...?

Pushing for more people buying it, stressing the plan options rather than you being capped 👀

[slim gorge]

naa i havent been using it

i think theyre just planning to limit sonnet only to pro users

[echo aurora]

If the model's responses does something that'd unfairly effect the votes we'd remove them before adding to the leaderboard. If a model errors, or shares the name, etc. will not be counted.

[wraith wren]

In your opinion, which is better for coding? Gpt codex 5.3 or opus 4.6m?

[hollow ivy]

4.6-thinking

[wraith wren]

Thank yew

[hollow mulch]

Im confused only reserching model get issue infnite genration right?

[desert pendant]

chat

what do yall think they should improve on Max?

[toxic verge]

Damn Gemini fell off

3.0 is being shut off march 9th

6 more days till Claud starts nerfing

😭

[desert pendant]

NO

😭 😭

[toxic verge]

I’m guessing veo4 will be coming soon sometime q2

[uneven peak]

Help

GUESS THE MUSIC BY WORDS -
Do you hear me calling?
Do you hear me calling?

[toxic verge]

I can’t hear you calling I just hit a curb driving so my phone is falling

Wish I had some sirens cause this traffic’s got me stalling

[hot forum]

How do i do the image to video prompt thing

[tiny jolt]

So Weird, Yupp don't care if the content is violated term of use, while this flag some of the content halted violated term of use

[proud bobcat]

One thing I really god damn hate is how much hatred GPT has towards Chinese models

Like with the new Qwen 3.5 small models you now have actually competent on device ai

[dawn moss]

bro

[proud bobcat]

Claude was like “yeah this is really cool”

Gemini also shared the sentiment

GPT

“Erm, actually, this will not do anything for the ai space” and kept talking bout some Apple Intelligence being comparable

Actual delusion

[limber crag]

Did lm arena eemove the web search feature from 3.1?

[toxic verge]

Because the ai knows better and is smarter then its human users

Superficial ethics labeled as safety, it’s super arrogant and very disrespectful in my opinion to any person’s intelligence to be told other wise. lol

Machine virtue signaling corporate legal safeguards rebranded as ai safety and outright censorship in closed source western models with no chance of being able compete on the market for any average user and then to have audacity to critique and criticize Chinese political censorship in LLMs from open source models says it all.

[hot turtle]

Accepted by everyone! I'm trying to generate an image using gpt image, specifically the vertical version, but it always gives me a square one.

[toxic verge]

Yeah 1:1 aspect ratio. Super annoying! 9:16 is uncommon ;/ unless you edit a image with 9:16 vertical aspect ratio, but that’s not guaranteed that the final result will be the same aspect ratio that you want

[hot turtle]

I managed to make a vertical version a couple of times, but I think it was an accident.

[toxic verge]

Yeah it happens but it’s random

[sharp marsh]

How does that work? So 1 prompt every 40 minutes?

[toxic verge]

These should be way higher imo, far more superior models especially face swaps

[cursive marsh]

Hello

[craggy sinew]

hi

[cursive marsh]

Why is there no video?

[cursive marsh]

So I can't make videos?

[surreal creek]

Check back in 24 hours.

[cursive marsh]

A video can be created after 24 hours but it doesn't work anymore. Any solution for this?

[fast bridge]

can anyone help me and tell me where to make long AI videos for free with audio

[toxic verge]

Seed dream 2

[thin current]

Whaaaaaaaaaat

[sand crown]

No way

[golden ocean]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/990039516620390400/997631476554285186/ezgif.com-gif-maker_-_2022-07-15T183109.613.gif

[thin current]

Just when I needed it hahaha

[thin current]

MY PROPIC

HE HE HE HAW

[scarlet needle]

Is the arena.ai site down... it appears to be in continual video generation mode??

[neon osprey]

I don't have version 3.1 at all. Only 3.

[storm dust]

possibly i dont seem to see max anymore lol

[forest finch]

hi

[spark linden]

So sad that claude 4.6 is now basically unusable. 3 messages every 40 minutes for me

What's another modeld you guys suggest that is good for story telling/narration purposes

[sharp marsh]

What were u doing

[toxic verge]

You could always get a 20$ subscription. Especially if you’re using it often.

[sharp marsh]

I got like 7 messages in under 30 minutes

I didnt get ratelimited

[eternal thicket]

hey guys i made a skate sim a while ago

should i add some more features?

#ai-creations

[thorn mantle]

Anybody know why the Max option is gone? It was so convenient.

[fickle venture]

I recommend you using it on aistudio.google.com

[astral vortex]

is it free

[fickle venture]

Yeah

[astral vortex]

I thought you would need API key payment

[fickle venture]

No you don't that's only if you want to use nano banana

[fickle venture]

Cuz nano banana isn't free on ai studio

[fickle venture]

Well yeah I just said it

[astral vortex]

Kk

[fickle venture]

You can use nano banana on Gemini web or app it's free with 3-4 limits

[storm dust]

it's back now

[astral vortex]

But it is free on google flow

[mild ore]

There is no one better for narration. Claude is superior at it.

[fickle venture]

Huh I forgot about that website

[astral vortex]

I am even using it currently

[astral vortex]

almost forgot too until I saw a video

[astral vortex]

It is 20 for pro 2

[thorn mantle]

Sweet.

[storm dust]

i also use it a lot it's my life saver lol

[astral vortex]

The nanao banana 2 generations are crazy

[thorn mantle]

Agreed. Life and time saver lol

[eternal thicket]

is nano banana 2 better than nbpro

[tawdry harbor]

hello