general

[proud bobcat]

The effort is non existent

Oh shi you’re right

Eh sure why not

[surreal zephyr]

1. its a MUCH smaller (and hence) cheaper model

2. its a CODEX model, its trained to do whatever works and nothing more than asked for

(which makes it extremally reliable)

[proud bobcat]

You’re telling me the model made for code is made to do the bare minimum

[surreal zephyr]

its made for backend

lol

[proud bobcat]

WHAT

[surreal zephyr]

if you want front end wait for front end model aka 5.3 noncodex

[proud bobcat]

Ohhhh well see

That changes my expectations a ton

I thought codex was jus a speedier code fine tuned model

[blissful tartan]

/image

[surreal zephyr]

its a small and extremally smart and cheap and reliable backend model

[proud bobcat]

I see I see

[surreal zephyr]

notice how you asked for landing page

and it did landing page and nothing else

while gemini or claude would do landing page and other pages

which MIGHT seem better - but for front end

in backend, thats absolutely unacceptable move

[proud bobcat]

Oh Claude is just as lazy 😭

[proud bobcat]

Don’t worry

[surreal zephyr]

heres from the prompt i gave

[proud bobcat]

It’s still a bit too blurry

[surreal zephyr]

(still without reference image but better )

[proud bobcat]

It gives too much like minimalism energy

[surreal zephyr]

im on hdr screen thats why

[proud bobcat]

I mean like the text being hidden

[surreal zephyr]

the model is a minimalist perfectionist

which is wonderful for backend

[surreal zephyr]

https://019c9fea-6398-7bec-949e-77d699fbed6e.arena.site/

[proud bobcat]

Let me try gpt 5.2 actually

Since it’s supposed to be proper front end

[surreal zephyr]

yeah (although remember its much older model)

oh and also

[proud bobcat]

I might try Gemini since it strikes me as more knowledgeable

[surreal zephyr]

the codex on llmarena

runs on medium reasoning

not on high or xhigh

[proud bobcat]

Oh that’s not that bad

[surreal zephyr]

(the difference is insane between those)

[proud bobcat]

I’m trying gpt 5.2 high so

[surreal zephyr]

heres with reference image

[proud bobcat]

We’ll see how that goes

[surreal zephyr]

5.3c

[proud bobcat]

Mmmmm alright I see your point

[surreal zephyr]

yeah it does exacly what you ask it

no more no less

[toxic verge]

One day in the future we won’t be able to tell websites apart

It’s all gonna be standardized

[proud bobcat]

Literally

[surreal zephyr]

id say

[proud bobcat]

I hate the minimalist style LLMs default to

[surreal zephyr]

all websites will look very good

[surreal zephyr]

gemini + codex do wonderful if you prompt them properly

[toxic verge]

Looking good or looking bad comes and goes just like the times

Well, look good 10 years ago already it looks old today

The Internet is gonna become more computer centerd than human centered

[surreal zephyr]

@proud bobcat should i try the same prompt on 5.3c xhigh in cli?

[proud bobcat]

Why not

Also 5.2 high is done

Oh yeah I SEE what you mean

Oh wow

[surreal zephyr]

show

[proud bobcat]

There’s some issues but wow

https://019c9fee-9fb3-7b25-a44e-6979a12b1587.arena.site/

It’s still minimalist

But defo better

[surreal zephyr]

for an old model

thats really good

[proud bobcat]

I’d have to provide it the seed 2.0 html code but this is a decent start

[surreal zephyr]

you would need to be more specific really

thats all

[proud bobcat]

Yeah

[surreal zephyr]

itll get it if you tell it perfectly what you want

[proud bobcat]

But the the thing is that like

Seed 2.0 completely understood what I wanted

Even if it didn’t look great it had humor and overall roughness that made up for it in authenticity

LLMs are trained to be way too neat

[toxic verge]

Herd seed was good

[surreal zephyr]

it guessed

you cant say the gpt's answer is wrong because you dont really like it as much

if it is correct then its not wrong

gpt doesnt like guessing

[proud bobcat]

Sure seems to love it when making anything else

[surreal zephyr]

not really the case from my experience

[proud bobcat]

5.2 made code so bad once I got Kimi K2.5 to check it and it had to do a full ass revival just for the game to START

5.2 somehow made a Minecraft clone that ran worse than a modern AAA game at release

[surreal zephyr]

3 mo difference in release date + gpt 5.2 isnt exacly coding model as you can see

but imo it still does decent code

with gpt you should use codex and noncodex together imo

holy im so wasting my quota rn

[proud bobcat]

1117 lines of code 😭

[surreal zephyr]

it just said he 25% finished

😭

BRO CHILL

@proud bobcat whatchu think?

[proud bobcat]

https://019c9ff7-3d3a-716a-962e-3f9edcab25d3.arena.site/

[proud bobcat]

With the seed 2.0 code referenced

[proud bobcat]

Doesn’t work on my end

[proud bobcat]

I have

[proud bobcat]

Ohhh there we go

I

Had to open it in files

[proud bobcat]

It’s more Liquid Glass but it’s defo a better attempt for sure

I guess the cli just works better

[surreal zephyr]

that was xhigh instead of medium

(but no reference image though)

and it was forced to do 1 file not multiple like its used to

[golden ocean]

no
freaky
claude just wants u to sit on it
like a normal claude being

[surreal zephyr]

actually ill try actual frontend cli on that i wonder how itll do

[high flicker]

Using Arena for stock advice rn

[whole knot]

bro cmon bro

[wicked talon]

Someone at Amazon defo used AI to make a script

[toxic verge]

GPT

It’s true people that used to one tool and then they update it and the old one goes away and that’s not what people signed up for in the first place

Same thing happened with custom GPT’s

[wicked talon]

Lol

[toxic verge]

All I’m saying is it’s a dirty way to play and I’ll just leave it at that we also saw the same thing with 4o

[foggy kindle]

hi

[surreal zephyr]

@proud bobcat gemini's alter to codex one

[surreal zephyr]

what does that mean im dumb and tldr

🙏

as in you cannot copyright ai made work?

[toxic verge]

No

[toxic verge]

https://youtu.be/CC2UjYQVBZk?si=t2aULaEkZ0QmKBxJ

[proud bobcat]

Oh this is cool

[wicked talon]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRajhcxV/

Wtf

[toxic verge]

For not saying, please and thank you

[toxic verge]

Bro I’m telling this is gonna happen to every business bro the AI is gonna track your performance to see how good and efficient of a worker you are

[toxic verge]

This is a worker jail

Tell me that’s not nuts, dude imagine working in nothing for eight hours a day

[wicked talon]

Yeah that would never happen with current worker rights

Only people doing it are ekittens

[proud bobcat]

no but i can definitely recognize really bad code

i have a programmer friend as well

[golden ocean]

have you ever tried out crack bench

[golden ocean]

ah, he probably knows that craig bench is the best benchmark then

[proud bobcat]

no

he's not very into llms

[proud bobcat]

and no

again, codex code does work

no doubt

however

the code itself is just bad

it has no idea how to properly utilize the tools its given

https://019c9fc8-ccdc-7fce-8e35-bdcc84ebee93.arena.site/

the design is shallow

nothing like the frutiger aero aesthetic i instructed it to do at all

[serene mauve]

Where can u get video arena now

[echo sinew]

Hello! The Video Arena has been removed from the server. This feature is still fully available on our site. Please visit https://arena.ai/video

[fickle venture]

Guys we need this feature:

https://discord.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1475731095071752354

[ripe gale]

hello

[thorny schooner]

https://klipy.com/gifs/going-insane-going-crazy-1

I hate how random this is at times like why on Earth does at sometimes I can log in perfectly fine and others I can't at all when I log out

[toxic verge]

Cuz it’s ai

And you know what rhymes with AI?

The word rely

[slate rock]

im geniunly interested in how lmarena is able to pay for all the requests

[hardy sluice]

Guys why can't I upload images from my phone while I can easily on my computer, it shows error to me, pls help someone 😭

[lilac crane]

hello

[thorny schooner]

@echo aurora

[hoary elbow]

Is opus 4.6 better than hawk max/ultra

[normal star]

Which AI do you recommend for daily use?
Gemini 3 Flash (Fast+Thinking) or Claude Sonnet 4.6 (Extended Thinking)

[thorny schooner]

🥲 ☠️ i think I may face realize what may be causing this issue

Nope didn't change anything

[quartz kettle]

Hello
I am now working as a senior software engineer
Is there anyone who is looking for an engineer?

[teal mason]

/image to video

[quasi atlas]

@teal mason Hello! The Video Arena has been removed from the server. This feature is still fully available on our site. Please visit https://arena.ai/video

[odd sorrel]

Is LMarena down?

[weak dagger]

No, lmarena is not down

[odd sorrel]

Yeah i think Cloudflare died on my country lmao

can't acess LMarena at least

[sterile wagon]

Cloudflare went down again. And lmarena is hosted there.

[gleaming roost]

Yeah, Discord wasn't working here

[surreal zephyr]

how did you @gleaming roost

the the -=_=-=-=

[balmy mist]

any updates on anthropic and penta??

are we doomed?

[gleaming roost]

Copy my nickname and ask an AI to edit it to match yours

[sterile wagon]

I understand Cloudflare is performing maintenance. So lmarena and Discord will probably go down again.

[surreal zephyr]

cant copy on phone 🥀

[gleaming roost]

Z̳̿͟͞a̳̿͟͞m̳̿͟͞i̳̿͟͞e̳̿͟͞l̳̿͟͞

[surreal zephyr]

anthropic is pretty much google's puppet

do you think that

google, like, cares

about laws?

what can a gov do? ban google usage? 🤣

[balmy mist]

google cant get taken over, if that happens it really is GG

[surreal zephyr]

google is untouchable lol

[balmy mist]

anthropic would be bad but we might be able to overcome it with the other companies and world, but Google AI and infrastructure fully under the US gov is GG for humanity

[surreal zephyr]

internet is pretty much google

[near nova]

is there anyway you can use search while uploading an image

[surreal zephyr]

google is stronger than the US govt lol

govt has around 30b liquid usd

google has above 120b liquid usd

lol

google has more liquid money

because of PR lmao

[verbal nimbus]

My opinion is that Anthropic kind of brought this on themselves for entering a contract with the Pentagon last July in the first place :P

[surreal zephyr]

nope

us goverment takes loans

google has infinite money

and that money is worthless

it just causes inflation

bro is as dumb as russian leaders back in ww2 😭

no?

googles earnings would skyrocket while dollar would plummet

google, if they wanted, can literally shutdown 70% mobile phones at will

[surreal zephyr]

do you think usa would care about that?

priniting money doesnt make them richer

[balmy mist]

money is printed so it doesnt really matter tbh, the AI market is based on hype like how tesla was, most of that money will evaporate since intelligence is and will be free at all levels

[surreal zephyr]

google can "kill switch" whole USA economy if they wanted

[balmy mist]

but google should be able to survive that with their infrastructure

[surreal zephyr]

you realise you are chatting on an app that wouldnt exist if not google?

your email is google

your browser runs on google software

[balmy mist]

wait what if the gov takes over Anthropic, are we rebelling??

[surreal zephyr]

your phone is likely google's

[surreal zephyr]

google wont let it happen

[proud bobcat]

no they cannot

[surreal zephyr]

lol

[proud bobcat]

this is entirely false

[surreal zephyr]

they can easily

but they wont

because it would waste their money

[tardy condor]

AI Video

[proud bobcat]

gdp unequal to US economy

gdp would fall

[surreal zephyr]

aws and google cloud love eachother

[proud bobcat]

but economy would barely be dented

google doesnt have much of a foothold on hardware

[balmy mist]

imagine Google takes over USA lmaoo

like they got gemini as supreme leader

[surreal zephyr]

they could but it would hurt they PR

its not worth it

google has more liquid funds than us govt lol

[balmy mist]

who needs PR when you have gemini that can spread any misinformation they want

[surreal zephyr]

and youtube and gmail

google literally owns a world atp

[proud bobcat]

"ohh noooooo no more google chrome whatever will we do?"

the humble firefox

"ohh noooooo no more google pixel!!!"

the humble iphone and samsung

"ohh noooooooooo no more chromebooks!!!"

literally macbooks and windows

[surreal zephyr]

google cloud too

[surreal zephyr]

samsung runs on google software

lol

[balmy mist]

so its actually scary the power that Google has, maybe thats why Elon, Sam, and friends made OpenAI lol

[surreal zephyr]

they can create worthless money

so yes they need liquid funds

[proud bobcat]

which runs on the linux kernel

which can be easily modified and have a distro shipped by samsung within weeks

second time in my entire life i agree with craig

[balmy mist]

bruhh

[proud bobcat]

what are you on about

[surreal zephyr]

google is scary

[balmy mist]

I need to go touch grass before that right gets taken away by our Robot overlords, its been real yall

[surreal zephyr]

nice

[proud bobcat]

if google kill switched anything then there would be at maximum a mess for 3 months before everyone just moved platforms and google lost all their monopoly lmao

"ha! that'll show em!"

"oh wait everyone just migrated and we have no more subscribers"

what are you talking about

literally what are you on about

[surreal zephyr]

moved how? 30% of internet is shut down because google hosts it
75% of phones are bricked

[verbal nimbus]

The main problem would the lack of Play Store and GMS like location service, which is what happened with Huawei

[surreal zephyr]

you dont know how much stuff is owned/related to google

literally every phone besides apple runs on android

[proud bobcat]

why would the phones be bricked if the software can work without internet

AWS would just scale and become the ultimate internet provider

[surreal zephyr]

not to mention theres 1 browser rn that doesnt run on google and its firefox

[proud bobcat]

android runs on linux kernel

[surreal zephyr]

(from the popular ones)

[proud bobcat]

lmao

yeah exactly

[surreal zephyr]

android is google's

[proud bobcat]

are you special

[surreal zephyr]

yeah but its still google's

[proud bobcat]

its based on a modified linux kernel

its open source

if google shut down for some reason the phones would still work

[surreal zephyr]

even 3.1 agrees that google could cause ww3

[proud bobcat]

gemini when i show them the humble firefox

gemini when i show them AWS cloud

[surreal zephyr]

then i wonder why you have to log into google on every single android phone 🤔

[surreal zephyr]

AWS is with google brochacho

amazon and google fund anthropic together

how about this

who do you think

[proud bobcat]

aws doesnt exist solely for anthropic gng

😭

lobbyists issued by companies who push for new laws to be passed

that is how it works

uhhh buddy

that is not at all

google owns search engine

this is schizo tier dude

yeah no dude

"socialism"

Buddy

I hate to break it to you

Right

Now short form is king

[surreal zephyr]

youtube short form is by far the most popular one if you actually check the stats

youtube shorts still have more views than tiktok lmao

[proud bobcat]

Views ≠ engagement

All of those are ai garbage videos for kids who can’t comprehend basic math

Actual info is on places like TikTok, Reddit, Facebook

[surreal zephyr]

australia tried to annoy google

google gave ultimatum

they PANICKED

[proud bobcat]

Wouldn’t they just download Firefox

This is just old people getting scared

[surreal zephyr]

no they wouldnt

[proud bobcat]

Why not

[surreal zephyr]

do you think an average person

[proud bobcat]

Literally why not

[surreal zephyr]

would rather

🤔

[proud bobcat]

Literally what would happen

Sure

Outrage

But this would be googles fault

And citizens would be more likely to just switch and completely degoogle their lives

Again I think you are completely overestimating the reaction

A mix of course

Half a year in and no one would care

I guarantee you

[surreal zephyr]

i guarantee you that they wont touch google

google has more influence than all other media outlets combined lol

more people watch yt than cnn for news alone

fox corp themself stated that

over 1000x the popularity 💀

[proud bobcat]

Literally

[surreal zephyr]

google makes 2x the money than ukraine gpd is

lol

150b vs 380b yearly

[proud bobcat]

That has genuinely nothing to do with their reach

Google doesn’t care about media

The Fox news station has more reach than Google for gods sake

[surreal zephyr]

1000x less reach than youtube alone

if not more

[surreal zephyr]

here

[proud bobcat]

How many people do you see using Google news?

Now tell me how many people use Fox News

How many people use Yahoo news

How many people use Facebook for news

How many people get their news from god damn Reddit

Your entire argument is

“But Google big”

Google is big but their priorities are completely different

[obsidian cargo]

tbf you can be pro AI while acknowledging AI slop is a thing that exists. Slop is slop, and can be made by anyone in any format, with or without AI.

I happen to love AI slop though

[proud bobcat]

I am very anti video and image generation personally

[proud bobcat]

For example id go as far to say even Grok is more people’s news source than Google

Which is insane to think about

[surreal zephyr]

How many people do you see using google search?
how many people do you see using gmail?

classroom?

gemini?

youtube?

[proud bobcat]

You have to be entirely special

This is some 0.1 GPA shi

[surreal zephyr]

schools do

[proud bobcat]

Classroom has literally no effect on media coverage

What are you talking about

It’s a tool to submit assignment through and for schools to communicate

Google search is a compilation of links to sources, not the source

Literally

[shut swan]

Does anyone know what model this anonymous model is?

[proud bobcat]

Exactly

Google is not providing the media

Google lets you access links to the news media websites

Is it through Google?

I heard the new Google news channel is great

[surreal zephyr]

yes its thru yt

[fierce kelp]

If someone has blocked you then you cannot react

[fierce kelp]

Ask #codename-discussion

[obsidian cargo]

ring camera videos of dogs obliterating people's houses with firehose water from their mouths is humanity's greatest accomplishment to date

cats playing musical instruments on people's front porches at 3 in the morning is a close second

[proud bobcat]

Woah…..

And what’s the channel it’s being hosted on

Google news?!?!?!?!1!1!1!1?1!11?1!

Again people will just use tv

No one uses YouTube for news

[nimble jasper]

hmu for polymarket signals

[atomic lagoon]

Bro what, that’s completely false 😭 anyone who watches the news avidly are always stupid legit every single time

Turns out though anthropic won’t have to deal with anything

[quick marten]

fr

[obsidian cargo]

no advertising allowed here

<@&1349916362595635286>

[sour spear]

Reported

[glacial dock]

What did the quarter say when it accidentally bumped into its long-time friend, the nickel?

"What a lovely COIN-cidence!"

Thank you

[glacial dock]

What duh quack !

[elder cloak]

sup

[simple ember]

I want ai tool for university assignment which one will best to give word without detected

[golden ocean]

gemini notebooklm

[hollow ivy]

So, Anthropic seems to have a spine after all.

(they said "No" to the Pentagon's demand)

I wonder if Deepmind would do the same?

[glacial dock]

Hey it’s chip !

[atomic lagoon]

Obviously to keep their ethic brand lol, any big company would do that

Because over 200 members of Open AI and Google AI signed petitions basically saying if this happens then those companies wont work with the government

But heres why this is happening the way it is

AI Is so powerful now it can be seen as a nation threat or national treasure

[radiant heron]

Is gpt 5.3 projected above or below 4.6

[versed warren]

below probably

4.6 is goated for coding

[nocturne mica]

how to generate ai videoes

[fickle venture]

Dang jailbreaking

[fickle venture]

https://arena.ai/video

@terse magnet

[near nova]

do regular models still do search

[simple ember]

I used the notebooklm but when I detect that words in zero gpt it show me ai use 60% what should i do

Anyone idea

To give me good humanizer or another ai tool for correct the word give me not casual

[atomic lagoon]

I just want to know what they use to jb claude

[undone saffron]

Spanish languague + some instructions

[neon idol]

<@&1349916362595635286>

[celest ore]

Does anyone know where to view my archived chats?

[astral vortex]

The new NANO BANANA 2 is nice

[astral vortex]

flowith right

[astral vortex]

or where

[undone saffron]

Any page that is only used to edit/generate images

[astral vortex]

Kk

[little ginkgo]

Is arena down

I am not able to

Login

[whole knot]

yep

[cyan sandal]

#general

In my phone not so tha video generator option

[plain gull]

yo i was using lm arena and after a certain number of chat, ive been stuck at a wall where i cant move past the captcha thing

[undone saffron]

You can follow this steps to fix that

Min 0:38

[thorny schooner]

That would be very nice to use if the website for some damn reason won't let me actually log back in🥲

[shut swan]

Yeah I am having same problems

[toxic verge]

Damn we are at war 😭

[thorny schooner]

Out of curiosity what does it show you all when you try to login for me just gives me a no session exist type of error

[shut swan]

The site must be experiencing server issues or something

[thorny schooner]

I probably I wouldn't be surprised since I noticed those type of issues that have to do with login and overall application of the browser have ramped up in frequency recently like a day or so

[toxic verge]

He has to do something with the captchas especially if you’ve been on for a long time

And are doing repetitive things

It’s a way for it to slow people down from abusing the system

[thorny schooner]

If it is it's a not very good one since I don't think completely stopping people from essentially logging in and making it the server go down or at least look like his s not very efficient😓

[toxic verge]

Well, I don’t think that’s on purpose. I think they’re just a side effect of preventing bots and stuff

I’m sure if they had a better system or a better way to approach this they would

[thorny schooner]

I mean I figure it's just funny if would be annoying since it seem/ browser this server in overall browser is to random ramp up of glitches cuz like there's always habit ofSome glitch appearing and then almost always escaling for eventually someplace is found if ever

[toxic verge]

It’s actually a very common Internet business model

Frustration and annoyance until you pay

🤣

There’s a economic term for this. I just forget what it’s called.

[thorny schooner]

They are not even being paid by us pa though so maybe force of habit then lol

[toxic verge]

Well, they can’t just give it out for free cause then nobody would pay for the services

With unlimited use cause then who would pay for

[thorny schooner]

Man we are really not paying for it that payment at least in traditional way that we give by using it i was referring to by traditionally how we are not paying for it economically though we are with data

[toxic verge]

Yeah, but what happens when your data becomes useless

And they pull the plug then what do you have to offer?

It’s gonna be one of those things you need them more than they need you

[thorny schooner]

Looking at the number of AI i would say that's going to take a bit before it becomes completely useless and that's not even talking about what happens if doesn't become useless before the economic burst of AI finally hit sit down of its course dby's data is probably never really going to become completely useless with how it has to be used to improve language machines and AI before it can ever really become self-sustainable bags suspect I would take a while relative wise

[toxic verge]

I hear what you’re saying, but I think that’s a very naïve way to look at it

Business bro, it’s business

[thorny schooner]

Also I do believe that is called Annoyance Economy

[toxic verge]

Cause all the stuff is super expensive

[plain gull]

YOOOO THANKSSSSSS

[toxic verge]

Nobody’s gonna just do this from the bottom of your heart

[plain gull]

ily bro

genuinley

bro why are all these really good paid tools free to use on lmarena

[undone saffron]

@echo aurora you should pin my video in #1343291835845578853

[plain gull]

whats the point

[thorny schooner]

I went and said naive I think just a different way of seeing it as it's not naive as we are paying Rift data which turned the AI is getting its own payment with a more specific browser stuff that's not from this website that it gets the financial stuff

[thorny schooner]

And also why on Earth where did I even implied that?

Personally I think it's one of those things where you can't really predict it specifically you just have to see how it goes since it's one of those things that each week could stabilize but just as easily you could become a economic burst bubble verse just have to wait and see since itself has been successful was like Google ai which ridiculously costly it can honestly only be sustainable for so long if they don't find a method which is possible to be found in time and not in time we just have to wait and see

[toxic verge]

I can promise you this as soon as it becomes not profitable. It’s shutting down shop.

[plain gull]

@undone saffron one last question, can i fix it again using the same steps if the same loop error shows up again?

couldve just typed btw

[thorny schooner]

That is essentially what I was saying ☠️

[toxic verge]

To be honest with you, it’s cheaper to just pay for this

And not have to deal with the headaches

[thorny schooner]

( if you have the money some of us don't)

[plain gull]

will there be a lmarena app in the future

[toxic verge]

Well, that’s what I’m saying so if we’re not gonna pay for it, then we’re gonna have to deal with the headaches

We can’t have both worlds

[thorny schooner]

And then I will still complain about those headaches it is human nature complain appreciate try and be patient in between it's the cycle of any type of business paid or non-paid

or any service for all that matter

[toxic verge]

I hear you there’s nothing wrong with it

It’s also important to remember where we stand

The food chain exist for a reason, and we just happen to be at the bottom of that food chain

[thorny schooner]

And again you don't need tell me I'm already aware it's an cycle of practically any business move up food chain sometimes get taken down to Peg something happens people complain try to get good service while at it Etc just moving through life kind of like what I did nowlike where I did now I'm i was complaining about the login but it's not really too heated

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-toast-salute-here's-to-you-heres-to-you-gif-1839778403502981320

[toxic verge]

https://tenor.com/view/guccimane-point-wink-shrug-all-good-gif-8089157

We stuck in the same boat 🚤

Good night guys

[remote ocean]

hi everyone, do you know a best video model to animate this mock up for showcasing? Image example below.

[calm bridge]

hi

[plain gull]

hi

[calm bridge]

where i can find video arena menu?

[nimble jasper]

hmu for polymarket signals

[cursive bough]

what is the best ai for coding (in r0blox studio)

[keen beacon]

i think claude opus 4.6

is the best

[hollow ivy]

standard or thinking version?

and which coding language?

[keen beacon]

text

[fickle venture]

https://arena.ai/video

[fickle venture]

Claude Opus 4.6 or GPT 5.3 Codex

[slate rock]

whats the current ratelimit for opus 4.6?

[keen beacon]

что лучше

codex 5.3 или opus 4.6?

[uneven peak]

@echo aurora What is thinking model is set Codex 5.3 in Code Arena?

[uneven peak]

Codex 5.3

[keen beacon]

mb

[little ginkgo]

I cant login my account

Help

🙁

[golden ocean]

real

[unique nova]

Hey everyone, is there any other good free ai stuff out there? I love arena.ai but I was just curious if there was other stuff at all to experiment with?

[golden ocean]

true

[unique nova]

Im so confused 😂

[gleaming roost]

🤔

[mystic olive]

GIYS ANYONE KNOWS WHY THE HELL CODEX 5.3 HASNT BEEN RELEASED ON ARENA

[fickle venture]

Probably 3-5 messages I don't know

[fickle venture]

Nothing just normal model I think

@cobalt torrent @sharp swift
For generating images or videos. It's on https://arena.ai

[fickle venture]

Like what, chat or vibe coding?

[unique nova]

More just images

[fickle venture]

Any codex models are only available to code arena not direct chat

[fickle venture]

Ah images I don't know to be honest. Maybe try yupp.ai? There is credits it's just like arena

[silk grove]

Hey, I’m currently using Arena AI without being logged in and I already have some chat conversations. If I log in now, will it save or restore the old chats I had while I was not logged in?

[uneven peak]

Ok

[unique nova]

But if there's credits then its not exactly free like arena

[fickle venture]

You can easily get credits by voting on models but yupp offers alot of services

[fickle venture]

That's a great question. @echo aurora, will this happens?

[golden ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/869679963459178597/1472327402003894455/amogusamogus.gif

[plush river]

Hey guys, is there an API for Arena? That would be great if the answer is no. Are there any websites that offer a free API for these powerful models?

[golden ocean]

no arena api

idk about other free apis

[teal mantle]

wtf is wrong with me for using claude code gui

[soft matrix]

I keep getting human verify and logout

[unreal dagger]

they moved video from discord to site you should be able to access it via website https://arena.ai/

[unreal dagger]

the last tab in the search bar is gen video

[fiery gull]

<@&1349916362595635286>

[fiery gull]

AiStudio give api free, the free limits of flash is good, and you can create various accouts

[fiery gull]

3 per hour thinking and no thinking

[potent stone]

https://trizao.ai/

[gleaming roost]

I don't know if this is still valid; now it asks for age verification

[golden ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-super-mario-bros-depression-sad-mario-and-luigi-gif-14815881022592239601

[jolly hound]

...

[little ginkgo]

Bro when login will be fixed

[dim crest]

hello

[visual charm]

I think I can help you to make it really really better. It can spill many things even emergent behaviors also. Because am a researcher in AI and I know some secrets that nobody knows, not even the best researchers or companies

Look it spill it out a smart script for meta reasoning.

[bright shard]

@echo aurora Uploading images results in an error in the image models.

[visual charm]

Use these prompts . It will gonna help also

@echo aurora these are the system errors to be fixed . Am 100% sure. Read all the chat carefully.

[acoustic cliff]

https://klipy.com/gifs/smiling-smiling-emoji

[visual charm]

Really guys . Like really. No name 😕.....

[fierce kelp]

Interesting

What makes you think the best researches or companies do not know though?

[gleaming roost]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-cat-gif-10804346947536782797

[hushed gyro]

Man what the hell is happening with the website... My prompts disappear all the time, and the send button doesn't work half of the time...

Stop deleting my chats ffs...

[loud verge]

The name is shown after voting.

So that votes aren't biased.

[hushed gyro]

And the copy button isn't copying the text lmao who coded the website 😂

😭

[loud verge]

Nope.

[golden ocean]

gpt 3.5 turbo

[loud verge]

You can go to search chat option and find your chat under archives.

You have to delete it from there.

[hushed gyro]

Ah right

[golden ocean]

For real.

[loud verge]

Don't disrespect 3.5

It was goat.

Unlike 4o

Worst open ai model is probably 4.1 nano.

Also, the current non reasoning models are worse than 3.5

[golden ocean]

gpt-4-preview-0314 my beloved

[desert pendant]

yo chat

claude has usage limit 💔

[low jungle]

hello

[undone saffron]

I thought it only happened to me, not to anyone else
It happened to me all the time for months, and now other people are experiencing it too
Just clear your cache and refresh the page

[grave peak]

Yes

[grave peak]

But, you can use it with limit :))

[fickle venture]

What did you expect.

[undone saffron]

Well, the max number of messages per x hours has been reduced so much
At least 4-5 messages available every 40 mins

[echo aurora]

Hey everyone - just a reminder that using #ask-here or #1343291835845578853 #1372230675914031105 #1372229840131985540 are the preferred methods to flag questions/bugs/feedback/model requests. Thank you all!!

Also would like to note I'm currently traveling to will be slow to respond this upcoming week.

[fickle venture]

Good luck

[echo aurora]

Thank you!

[desert pendant]

i didn't know they added limit for claude

[fickle venture]

I got something you'll like
Do you want to vibe code?

[desert pendant]

yeah

[loud verge]

Makima

I like makima.

[hollow ivy]

i like Opus-4.6

[desert pendant]

me too

[loud verge]

I like gpt 5.2 xhigh

[hollow ivy]

when will grok 5 come out?

[loud verge]

Probably by end of 2026

[hollow ivy]

hopefully sooner..

[desert pendant]

ngl

claude is too cool

[neon idol]

2027

[fickle venture]

You can use Gpt 5.3 codex for free on opencode

[neon idol]

U killed reze >:(

[desert pendant]

.

[loud verge]

Might come earlier. Cuz updates be dropping too soon lately.

[desert pendant]

you know too much bro

[neon idol]

[loud verge]

Nah. Reze deserved to die. Killing power was heartbreaking 😭.

[neon idol]

Naaah reze was the best

[loud verge]

She bit his tongue off.

[hollow ivy]

anyone playing Opus Magnum?

[loud verge]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-hell-nahh-aww-hell-aww-hell-nahh-gif-9659330954843262630

[loud verge]

What's this?

[hollow ivy]

by the creator of InfiniMiner (the predecessor of Minecraft)

ZachTronics

a puzzle sandbox game, i heard

(unfortunately, it costs money, therefore i can't post link, else spam-alert)

[desert pendant]

i would

but i prefer using claude for now

he is doing a great job

[hollow ivy]

yeah, Claude is best for coding

(especially non-web coding)

[desert pendant]

ngl

people should stop using claude for web code

[hollow ivy]

glgl?

lol

[hollow ivy]

i said NON-web coding

[desert pendant]

oh

sh

[hollow ivy]

which is, coding on desktop (offline)

[desert pendant]

im using him rn to create mods

[hollow ivy]

MC-mods?

ah, lemme guess: Fortnite? R0blox?

ah: HL2?

do you guys play NMS, anyone?

ok, offtopic: #1472698608980856842 message

[hollow ivy]

community poll: #1405889215065096254 message

[frosty lark]

is the arena down?

[fierce kelp]

All of them or a specific one?

[shrewd citrus]

yeah ts is actually impressive

[fickle venture]

It's ain't dawg

[royal sail]

Yeah that'd fool me on first glance lol

You can see some imperfections if you look real close, but still super impressive

[desert pendant]

chat

should i use codex?

[desert pendant]

"The same, but different, but the same!"

aah thing

😭

[grave plaza]

which model is good to create prompts for the web arena

[stiff cliff]

how to create lmarena account ?
the website shows only login button

[grave plaza]

Its creating a account

automatic? i think

[stiff cliff]

not working with google idk why

its worked now

[fleet salmon]

is there anyone who is looking for a developer?

[spark linden]

Why does claude 4.6 sometimes shows its limit after 3-4 messages and other times i can go for hours w/o interruption

[desert pendant]

best model

its like, really really good

so they put a limit

or its just API limit ig

[simple kernel]

When that happens to me, I just change models In the same chat

[iron cipher]

Absolutely impressive

[desert pendant]

bro i just found a bug

false positive for bug warning

😭

[open wind]

Hm

[scarlet spire]

@hollow ivy Claude pulls surprisingly far ahead on pretty much any sort of subtext coding I've tried. Think... Actually representative realistic scenario's of mental health crises, interpersonal conflicts with biases, adjusting to the tone of the room rather than the pure text itself (e.g. talking about dark or sinister thoughts without being forced down a therapy pipeline), ...

There's some genuinely impressive nuances that are very hard to articulate but I find specifically interesting and distinct. No other chatbot has come close in the general picture.

If we leave out the "own-voice tone" aspect, GPT-5.1 could be quite the ruthless subtext decoder if you provided the right instructions. More than Claude 4.1 or the likes.

Edit: oops. I mentioned instead of replying.

[scarlet spire]

So did you or did you not?

[scarlet spire]

It's based on usage and demand. The playing field should be even and fair. That involves distributing allowance across users in such a way that no one particular group will be disproportionately impacted.

So the reason it's limited isn't because it's a good model.
It's because people are using it.

[scarlet spire]

@daring rock Here, have a biscuit. It's on the house. You've been hard at work with the video arena references and redirects!

Right. How silly of me. You're right to laugh at that offer.
Toothless is toothless...

[spark linden]

Ohhh I'll give that a try

[spark linden]

Yeah, especially w/o with gpt o4 gone

[mystic raft]

is it just me or all image generation options are gone?

[undone saffron]

Try this link: https://arena.ai/image

[mystic raft]

fixed

[unreal dagger]

@echo aurora when will a api come out

[plain gull]

yo is lm arena down?

i cant use it

can you help me

[lofty frigate]

How is seadream 5 worst than 4.5

[toxic verge]

Gemin 3.1 flopped

😂😂😂😂

Ya the intelligence really improved…good one ☝️

[edgy cave]

https://tenor.com/bpzz7.gif

[thorn nebula]

It's stuck anyone know how to solve this??

[toxic verge]

Clear browser data

[toxic verge]

If I am not mistaken, once you try to login, it doesn’t really log you in and just redirect you back to the home screen right?

[thorn nebula]

Yea

[toxic verge]

Well, first thing I would try is to clear the browsing data cache

If that persists, you need to try to use the email option instead of Gmail you could try that now and that should work

But that would require you to make a new account

[ripe plinth]

🥀

claude-4-6-thinking definitely thinks for longer💀

[undone saffron]

It's surprising that you didn't get an error

[ripe plinth]

i got like 139 errors in the project💀

[lucid nexus]

How to create video from images

[rough lance]

hello

someone can tell me how to go to use video arena 1 please ?

[sullen sable]

👍

[potent lark]

Where is video arena?

[unique reef]

👍

[hushed tulip]

how to fix this

?

[exotic cosmos]

hey

[plain gull]

YO I HAVE A QUESTION

can i upload html files on lmarena and build it from there?

@undone saffron

[undone saffron]

No, but you can send all the code of the html to AI

If you want to see it in the future, support this idea: #1469637546828103741 message

[sick dome]

anyone know why i can t make videos with fighitng scene on the arena ai?

[near kindle]

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[crimson trench]

why cant i select the AI tool for video generator

[tired herald]

Im impressed as I get a timeout after 6 minutes

[undone saffron]

The platform is improving every day

[dusky gale]

@potent lark looking too

[potent lark]

@dusky gale https://arena.ai/pl/video

[keen beacon]

anyone here played

resident evil 9

[mystic plaza]

#ai-creations

[toxic verge]

I love all the backlash Gemini 3.1 is getting and nb2 😂

[golden ocean]

true

[toxic verge]

You know what I think it is I don’t even think it might be even the update. I think what it is is just perception of mind.

[quartz light]

so it doesnt even search web

lol

[toxic verge]

We naturally gravitate toward tools that feel consistent. When an AI workflow changes, it doesn’t feel like an update it’s a headache . Having to abandon a tried and true method for something new is frustrating because it breaks the work flow 😭

[empty sky]

How to stop model from timing out after like 10 minutes

[toxic verge]

😂😂😂

[golden ocean]

mecha kitler

[slate rock]

its the server timeout you cant do nothing

[empty sky]

Fine I guess I'll steal claude opus 4.6 thinking from the servers then

And get 64 tb ram

[slate rock]

what you wanna do?

[empty sky]

Uhh

Ahem

Train a 700b model

Nah jk I want this big ahh bot that's like 30k lines

Discord

[slate rock]

let it give it in 3 parts. the most i can get from sonnet is like 7k lines

or more parts

[empty sky]

Sonnet??

Haha

Sonnet

Ea

Yea

[slate rock]

and opus like 6k but if you give sonnet enought instrctions it performs equally

[wispy radish]

WHY I DO NOT SEE VIDEO ARENA SECTION?

[ocean vortex]

it does, but they need to polish the text and display. This reads to me on the first glance as "2% likelihood of being false" lmao

@echo aurora why is it trying to check out of context statements? This is not gonna work lol

user message in full for context + the relevant specific statement to confirm or deny, is probably what would be needed

[quartz pike]

hey am i the only one who noticed that gemini 3.1 feels more... slopified then gemini 3?

idk how to explain it it feels like gpt 5

[toxic verge]

No. 3.1 & nb 2 have received a lot of backlash

[quartz pike]

I KNEW IT

it feels so gpt-ified

😭

[toxic verge]

Let me guess you’re hitting the ridiculous censorship?

[quartz pike]

not really

but it just feels like off

like weirder and like less proffesional then gemini 3 pro

ive been coding with it

and it feels like something gpt 5 and sonnet 3.7 would make if gpt 5 and sonnet 3.7 had a baby and that baby was smarter then both of them

i really dont know how to explain it

[toxic verge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GeminiAI/

Your not the only one

[quartz pike]

yeah

but honestly gpt is definetly the most censored ai model

[toxic verge]

There’s a reason for it.

[quartz pike]

like i literally asked it "what would you do in a self deffense scenario where a sloth bear was charging at you and you had a rifle" and it gave me a su*cide hotline number

[toxic verge]

AI has two sides to it the really nice polished side and then the very dark side

[quartz pike]

and became a freaking therapist

[quartz pike]

fr

[toxic verge]

GPT is very good at being bad like extremely horribly bad

[quartz pike]

fr

[toxic verge]

So when you jailbreak it, it’s really effective

[quartz pike]

and extremely censored

[toxic verge]

That’s why they have to censor the crap out of it

[quartz pike]

like how am i s*icidal for asking what YOU would do in a self defense scenario

[quartz pike]

yeah

also when i ran the self defense test thing on it i'd say "make distance" brother. do i even have to say anything thats so stupid

[toxic verge]

I’ll tell you this.. every time a company says that they’ve made their model cheaper and more efficient. It means one of two things they’re cutting the rate limits and they’re downgrading the model in some capacity

When they say they make it safer what they mean is they’re censoring it more

[quartz pike]

fr

ive noticed that so many times

[toxic verge]

That’s why to me it’s funny dude it’s so funny to see these benchmarks and these leader boards and then the elephant in the room completely gets ignored

[quartz pike]

fr like why isint there a censorship benchmark

in my opinion. if your model is "safe" but censored. its not safe. its limited.

cause safe doesnt equal censored

[toxic verge]

It’s because nobody talks about it so it’s one of those things don’t see no evil no hear no evil

And we pretend it’s not there because it’s a very uncomfortable issue to talk about because it’s a very difficult subject

Because AI already has a bad reputation when it comes to safety and vulnerability, and how people perceive it in general public about being dangerous

[quartz pike]

yeah

like the c.ai situation

imo the biggest and most dangerous ai is def c.ai

[toxic verge]

Plus the AI community they don’t care as long as the upgrades keep coming they’re gonna glaze these models

[quartz pike]

that thing will genuinely rp something i cant say here but starts with r

[toxic verge]

Bro look at this

Like wtf?😳

I mean, you can call whatever you want a hallucination a error or whatever

But still, dude it makes you wonder lol

[quartz pike]

ai is seriously not safe

their version of "safe"

is censored

[toxic verge]

It’s confused

[toxic verge]

https://youtu.be/eMhDh6pXpkM?feature=shared

[fierce kelp]

https://xkcd.com/1172/

xkcd: Workflow

There are probably children out there holding down spacebar to stay warm in the winter! YOUR UPDATE MURDERS CHILDREN.

[glossy umbra]

this is the one single prompt to make ai sound human 😹

[tender dew]

help pls

[shrewd citrus]

the second model just be saying anything 😭

[long minnow]

https://tenor.com/jMBRIvI5HPe.gif

[hushed gyro]

Great. Now both NB pro and 2 stopped working

[proud bobcat]

I have returned

From my one day mute

[hushed gyro]

Oh thanks Arena, all google image models are down.

[proud bobcat]

Nanobanana 2 was so bad it died and took Nanobanana pro with it

[atomic lagoon]

Thats called a google problem not arena, any time its down on google its down for arena too

[hushed gyro]

Lol

The entire server was in denial when I said NB 2 is worse than NB Pro in quality

[hushed gyro]

Well why do big corporations have such unstable APIs?

[atomic lagoon]

The APIs aren't unstable, the servers can go down from overload at time

Big corporations have a lot of money but not enough to have untouchable servers

[proud bobcat]

It’s a whole step back from the quality

I think they bloated the dataset

[golden ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1340554757827461211/1477393984891523164/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker.gif

[hollow imp]

Yall

@surreal zephyr @quartz pike @stray aspen

[river whale]

who pinged me

bruh what

[hollow imp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1405350619568410646/1477657878990028891/image.png?ex=69a58fa3&is=69a43e23&hm=b7c29d49b95b2f9ef4d5e91ec0e09da6fd36c9cd3928c15cbc20becb20eb6f1f&

[river whale]

U
You
yo

Claude Sonnet 4.6
The user just said "yo" - a casual greeting. I'll respond in a casual, friendly way.

Yo! 👋 Was kann ich für dich tun?

[hollow imp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1405350619568410646/1477657847591600128/image.png?ex=69a58f9c&is=69a43e1c&hm=997e6781974dffbc4cb126f79c0b7760aaa24df7a5f2116e048c21f2a2964848&

[hollow imp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1405350619568410646/1477689877125402655/image.png?ex=69a5ad70&is=69a45bf0&hm=7b5ca498ac2dd710f465b9c6a00531ca431b542305b56105183c0d23dc61e0c5&

[sharp marsh]

Hey

Whats the usage limit for opus 4.6?

Free tier

[bleak lake]

Websites like that can leak your ip

That website rn has 5 people in

3 us and 1 poland

what I am saying is you shouldn't click on websites like that as it can leak ip

nothing else just warning you

[river whale]

that leaks your ip

[stray aspen]

whats that

free opus ?

[hollow imp]

Gpt 5.2 pro

[hollow imp]

I'm using vpn + ironfox

[sharp marsh]

Yo

[hollow imp]

That is some Russian person's website not mine

[sharp marsh]

Anyone knows

[bleak lake]

Polish

[hollow imp]

No

The only website I've made is on WordPress

[sharp marsh]

Is it like free AIs

Or sum

[hollow imp]

Yes

Apis

[sharp marsh]

Sad it won't last long prolly

[bleak lake]

128.204.223.70
Hosted by Atman Sp. z o.o.
Located in Warsaw, Poland
ASN: AS57367

That's the website info

Doesn't seem safe ngl

[hollow imp]

Yeah

[stray aspen]

holy crap

[bleak lake]

If you tryna use it, use it with measures

[sharp marsh]

I want something free that have opus 4.6, suggestions?

[bleak lake]

😹

[river whale]

it uses tobito smth

[hollow imp]

No

It's different he said

[stray aspen]

there aint no opus 4.6 tho

just sonnet

[hollow imp]

???

Ok I'm deleting it

[sharp marsh]

It sucks then

[plain gull]

im getting this error man

[hollow imp]

Actually I'm skeptical of it and so I ping you and you expose the site for me

[sharp marsh]

Bro it's insane how smart opus 4.6 is compared to gemini 3.1 pro
I was making something kinda complex, and gemini was struggling to do it
Opus 4.6 one shotted it

Why isn't amazon giving more money to anthropic

It's insane

[hollow imp]

😔

[plain gull]

why am i getting this error @granite heron

[hollow imp]

Mr cool developer how to verify if the opus 4.6 api is actually opus 4.6 and not some chinese shi

[river whale]

[hollow imp]

Tell bro

[harsh blaze]

:< well Opus are good better than 3.1 in my view

cause you know , gemini good but hallicinating high on overload fake Info

Hallucinating

[plain gull]

does anybody know how to embed ai voice agents on a website???

[hollow imp]

@river whale

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[harsh blaze]

:>> wow which one web is that?

[hollow imp]

Kyuki

[plain gull]

arey

indians

damn

[hollow imp]

Kya racist

[plain gull]

bro

im a south indian

[sharp marsh]

Gemini is crap for everything bro

[plain gull]

and its a common word here

BRO

its a commmmmon word

here

[harsh blaze]

you dont have to say it loud cause it already true

[plain gull]

chill

im here to learn

[sharp marsh]

The only thing that's good about gemini is that aistudio gives you a decently high usage rate for free, but that's it

It hallucinates too much

Deviates too much out of the topic you asked it

And so on

[plain gull]

do you know how to embed ai voice agents on a website???

[sharp marsh]

I don't use ai voice agents

[plain gull]

thats what i thought

[bleak lake]

cut the thinking tokens when you are using it for something that's not particularly hard

Llms usually over complicate easy things when you it have ton of thinking tokens

[sharp marsh]

It was a hard task though

I think if I cut the thinking tokens it would hallucinate more

lol

[bleak lake]

nah I mean if it is hallucinating on normal tasks

[plain gull]

@hollow imp are you building something

monetizable

[bleak lake]

If ai is hallucinating on hard tasks then it's usually the problem of ai or prompt

[hollow imp]

No

[bleak lake]

claude is step above gemini tho

I agree on that

[plain gull]

what is it bout

[river whale]

AI api

[stray aspen]

@hollow imp

Can you send me the free opus site

[quartz pike]

i tested it and all models say they are sidekick ai, this is pretty much fake and they are all the same model

[sharp marsh]

I gave the same prompt to gemini and opus 4.6, while gemini struggled to even acknowledge the bug, opus just did it in one single prompt

Although gemini thought for 2 minutes and opus for 9

[hollow imp]

The system prompt for every model is same

[quartz pike]

noone would willingly give out opus 4.6 endlessly for free

[golden ocean]

but sidekick app says they provide all these models

[hollow imp]

This thing is used in German schools

[golden ocean]

not their own model

claude opus' thinking says its sidekick but also says its underlying model is claude by anthropic

[quartz pike]

they do?

[golden ocean]

but it does talk differently then claude so idk

[quartz pike]

where do they get their funding from if it is actually endless opus 4.6

[hollow imp]

System prompt

[golden ocean]

yes its on google playstore

[hollow imp]

And gpt 5.2 pro

How tf did they get the expensive pro api

[stray aspen]

Send me the site bri

In dms

[golden ocean]

claude says the system prompts tells it that it's sidekick, but it's underlying model is claude by anthropic

and i know real claude is indeed aware that it's claude regardless of custom system prompt

[quartz pike]

okay either this is bullsh*t or they are getting millions in funding

cause if not they'd be broke by day 2 of sidekick being up

[golden ocean]

but again idk if this is real claude and it talks differently

[hollow imp]

I mean the custom system prompt is very strict and it would be a pain to deal with

[sharp marsh]

Imagine it's gpt oss 20b with claude system prompt

[quartz pike]

most likely

[golden ocean]

real

[plain gull]

yo bro help a indian bro out , how can i use claude opus 4.6 for free

[quartz pike]

cause its either one of these:

its either gpt oss 20b.

or they are getting millions in funding every month

[plain gull]

hell nah

[quartz pike]

fuh nawh

i have a logger bro

[hollow imp]

Pmarena

Lmarena

[sharp marsh]

Whats the usage limit?

[golden ocean]

true

[plain gull]

why tf is claude opus 4.6 so overtalked nowdays

what does it even do

[golden ocean]

literally lmarena

[quartz pike]

literally the goat of coding

[golden ocean]

i think it generates text

not sure tho

[plain gull]

oh yeah? why is there a limit on lmarena btw