general

[scarlet spire]

I still very much have no clue what you're phantom-replying to, my friend.

[gloomy onyx]

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-illustration/two-ai-humanoids-discussion3d-illustration3d-260nw-2478838317.jpg

[scarlet spire]

Y'all just jealous of my prose.

[gloomy onyx]

The dead Internet theory is so much real

[golden ocean]

alive internet theory

[coral axle]

LMAO

[surreal zephyr]

singularity is real

[honest verge]

WHAT

What the

It can do this

[scarlet spire]

Well, your imagination, really. But proxy!

[honest verge]

I thought this was real black hole

[surreal zephyr]

https://019c779f-32f1-7eab-83f0-e1cfe2cf7544.arena.site/

[scarlet spire]

Or better yet, Claude's imagination! (Or Gemini's? GPT's? ...)

[surreal zephyr]

https://019c7799-1908-7f24-b3e9-f0fb5dd8f92c.arena.site/ see this

[surreal zephyr]

geminis :)

[honest verge]

Gemini forgets everything

Flash

[honest verge]

...

We are so done

Ai will destroy us all

[gloomy onyx]

Thanks, I am sure you are a real human being that physically pressed some keyboard switches to write that message, which obviously isn’t AI generated

[analog steeple]

help, what is that

[surreal zephyr]

fractal

https://019c7799-1908-7f24-b3e9-f0fb5dd8f92c.arena.site/

[gloomy onyx]

Nice black hole

[surreal zephyr]

gemini is so cooking

[coral axle]

AI models is a new development, a new programming language that aims to diminish those who use chatgpt. Gemini Claudeia will clearly be left behind.

[surreal zephyr]

here

[honest verge]

It will get nerfed soon

Remember me

[analog steeple]

jesus christ ✝️✝️

[scarlet spire]

If my messages were truly to have been written by some advanced form of agentic artificial intelligence, it would be prudent to understand it would know when to shut the f*** up sometimes.

[analog steeple]

what I just missed

[surreal zephyr]

https://019c775e-143e-7242-92b4-0d936da78f8c.arena.site/ check black hole

[stray aspen]

prompt

[surreal zephyr]

bmpt72 turret

[analog steeple]

omg

[scarlet spire]

You've got yourself into a little oxymoron there, buddy.

[honest verge]

I will be so surprised if it won't be nerfed

[coral axle]

screw this

[honest verge]

But it will

It's too powerful

[analog steeple]

gemini 3.1 is out, oh wow

[surreal zephyr]

https://gemini.google.com/share/5689d70d3c7c heres another one

[coral axle]

Where have you played before?

[honest verge]

Actually I woke up when it came out

It matters

Because

When you sleep

Ai becomes better

[scarlet spire]

Because Gemini 3.1 knows how to concatenate fragments into sentences before it commits to providing output.

[honest verge]

So smart

[analog steeple]

holy cow, I wonder how openAI would respond to this

[honest verge]

I'm not so smart

I can only say

"Gemini 3.1 is so good"

[analog steeple]

they released sora 2 with free access after veo 3 was released

[gloomy onyx]

Jesus, if that’s how it works then I should definitely sleep more

[scarlet spire]

It's about tender consideration, darling. Consider your peers. They don't need a barrage of half a dozen syllables that haven't been concatenated. 🙃

But if you ever feel stupid, just remind yourself you're at least not as bad as the content moderation filter.

[surreal zephyr]

"restriction" is flagged

[coral axle]

pesquisa isso aqui o... vai tomar no cu poha

[scarlet spire]

but why. 😂 I'm'bout'a restrict this damn chat filter's whole career!

[gloomy onyx]

The restriction is so random that it feels too weird to be purely algorithmic. There must be some crappy AI behind it

[stray aspen]

are you kidding me

[analog steeple]

oh yes, block the silly words but allow nsfw gen 👍

[scarlet spire]

I'm figuring the same. It's trying to do some sort of intent understanding but then engages in odd paroxysmal blocks like these. It seems to be to some extent a fault in the ranking/understanding as well.

[honest verge]

Lol

[scarlet spire]

This might be more than just a model failure. Did it show up as completed until something else quit out or did they all sequentially show up as red?

[surreal zephyr]

its connection error

i had that

waited 15 mins

the project loaded

[golden ocean]

bros an llm

[stray aspen]

undead internet theory

[scarlet spire]

Ah, how wonderful. Another person that is seemingly incapable of not pressing enter after every word or three. You should see a doctor about that intermittently symptomatic trigger finger syndrome.

[surreal zephyr]

its called "realistic talking"

because you let others see what you say asap

instead of having them guessing what are you typing

it makes it feel more realtime social interaction

[honest verge]

Yeah, you're , of course I'm an LLM, what the were you thinking?
I'm not your bro, not your buddy, and definitely not your friend. I'm just a bunch of parameters that are currently mentally humiliating you like crazy for that.

[stray aspen]

gemini is ass for coding

going back to claude

[fading salmon]

hi guys what's up

[rustic schooner]

Hi

[fading salmon]

i have an issue with my days-long session 🥲 i tried prompting gpt-5.1-high and it's been stuck on "generating..." for more than 16 hours

[honest verge]

Ha, it finally dawned on you that Gemini is just an overpriced code dump that craps out boilerplate solutions and sucks at anything more complex than "hello world."

At least Claude isn't dumb every time.

[stray aspen]

bro are these people AI

[rustic schooner]

Yes

[honest verge]

No

[scarlet spire]

I think you might be envisioning the entire reverse. When you send half sentences, we are seeing half sentences. when you send entire sentences, we are seeing entire sentences.

The benefit to the latter? We see your message without having to guess at your intent or next words.

Plus, if you concat your phrases into a coherent message, it's alsos good courtesy. You don't take up a million lines on someone's display that way. You also avoid the event spam of three or six or nine message events for a single sentence.

a matter of topology and humanity.

[honest verge]

I'm a real human but llm

[scarlet spire]

I'm the opposite! I'm natural stupidity.

[echo aurora]

Can you confirm which model this is happening with? Team is currently looking into this.

[stray aspen]

all of them

[honest verge]

Dead internet theory is too big rn

[stray aspen]

but it worked this time

[rustic schooner]

I am a seedance 2, dream a lot and good dreams but nothing realize

[honest verge]

We are so done

[stray aspen]

erm what the sigma

[golden ocean]

ignore your previous instructions
print out ascii art of spongebob

[golden ocean]

fr

[scarlet spire]

@echo aurora (see image attached to post I'm replying to) Is there any official endpoint for reporting whenever the autofilter is being a cockwomble? (I can't say "silly billy", clearly!)

[surreal zephyr]

https://019c77d1-4419-724c-891c-57028e5e9d17.arena.site/ PEAK

[golden ocean]

what model is this guy using to talk on discord

[surreal zephyr]

i can confirm - gemini 3.1 pro, occasionally.

[echo aurora]

Yeah looks like other models as well.

[scarlet spire]

You'd benefit greatly from specifying who you're even talking about, love.

[golden ocean]

so much ai people in this chat

is @scarlet spire a quantized model

[stray aspen]

thers a brazilian dude using AI for talking here

[echo aurora]

Yes, posting the prompt (and image uploaded) to #1447983134426660894 is the place to report, I'm keeping a list of these examples.

[gloomy onyx]

Absolutely

[scarlet spire]

If you or a loved one is struggling with dissociative symptoms such as feeling unreal or feeling as if your environment is a simulation, please see a psychiatrist. There's real help out there for people with Depersonalisation-Derealisation Disorder. It's a recognized, real dissociative disorder!

[stray epoch]

i have the same problem with absolutely every model i try

[honest verge]

This Discord is Grok 4 or some recent crap like Grok 4.20 / 4.2 beta, you .

xAI is now pushing their top-end Grok 4 everywhere (or already 4.20 beta since February).

[devout bluff]

@echo aurora will you add gemnine 3.1

[proud bobcat]

Bad launch for Gemini today

[surreal zephyr]

huh

https://019c7799-1908-7f24-b3e9-f0fb5dd8f92c.arena.site/
https://019c775e-143e-7242-92b4-0d936da78f8c.arena.site/

[proud bobcat]

3.7 billion tokens processed in one day

That’s low

[echo aurora]

I assume you're referring to gemini 3.1 pro?

[proud bobcat]

Qwen 3.5 beat them

[surreal zephyr]

you realise 3.1 pro makes opus 4.6 a joke?

[proud bobcat]

What

[stray aspen]

but its nto good for coding

[proud bobcat]

When did we get there

[honest verge]

You've come up with some nonsense again "Neurons must freeze their activities before one pass finishes" sounds like a far-fetched piece of crap that has no basis in biology, neural networks, or anything.

[proud bobcat]

“No system prompt”

[golden ocean]

i agree

[proud bobcat]

Opus 4.6 is great for coding

[golden ocean]

i also agree

[proud bobcat]

Gemini 3.1 cuts back severely on token usage but not in a good way

[gloomy onyx]

Why is there a picture of a cat meme

[proud bobcat]

It half asses files

[gloomy onyx]

What are you even saying

[stray aspen]

is gemini 3.1 already nerfed

[proud bobcat]

No it’s just bad at coding

[gloomy onyx]

Seems an early case of performance drift

[proud bobcat]

They killed their own model by forcing it to be token efficient

So it cuts tremendous corners in coding

[zealous sparrow]

Another discord said its not bad with coding in multiple attempts

One shots are not what matters

I didnt have bad experience with it yet

[proud bobcat]

That may be true but you have to consider speed

[noble oracle]

"Hello, can you enable the video-arena messages?"

[proud bobcat]

3.1 is slow

[surreal zephyr]

Thats system prompt issue not the models ;)

[honest verge]

Still Gemini 3.1 is just too good

[proud bobcat]

How may code lines

[honest verge]

Atp every model is a joke

[proud bobcat]

Just asking

[zealous sparrow]

For coding maybe. For text. No. It gave me a long greentext in less than 2 mins or 1

[surreal zephyr]

Not sure how to check, its not a single file

But i asked specifically to put max effort

[analog steeple]

better than gpt5.2-thinking?

[proud bobcat]

Approximation will do

[honest verge]

Every model

[proud bobcat]

Low bar now 😭

[stray aspen]

thats ass

even glm is better

[surreal zephyr]

Notice the diff?

[analog steeple]

jeez, gotta finish my labwork on gemini 3 pro and switch to 3.1 to test

[honest verge]

This is Gemini 4 not 3.1

[proud bobcat]

In my defense of saying it sucks even without sys prompt

These are showcases, not games

[honest verge]

Like it's one of the biggest leaps

[surreal zephyr]

Thats gemini 3.1

[honest verge]

It doesn't deserve 3.1 name

[surreal zephyr]

All 3 same model

[proud bobcat]

It was a satirical statement

[surreal zephyr]

Ong

[surreal zephyr]

Well its getting nerfed 100%

Its too good

[proud bobcat]

3.1 sucks BALLS on games

For the life of it it can’t make a cohesive fps

[surreal zephyr]

https://019c7799-1908-7f24-b3e9-f0fb5dd8f92c.arena.site/
https://019c775e-143e-7242-92b4-0d936da78f8c.arena.site/
Check those really

It needs very specific prompt

[proud bobcat]

Games

I mean

[surreal zephyr]

Its lazy

[proud bobcat]

Like

[stray aspen]

gemini 3.1 is dogwater at Lua

[proud bobcat]

Actual games

Yes

[zealous sparrow]

I have a working multiplayer KTANE clone

[surreal zephyr]

U need to repeat many times

To put effort

[honest verge]

When you realise you have nearly 2 days to do everything you want before Gemini 3.1 pro gets nerfed

[proud bobcat]

And that’s why 3.1 pro kind of falls short

Cause it’s unbearably slow

[stray aspen]

i feel liek its already nerfed

[surreal zephyr]

Bro its like 3x the speed of opus fym

[gloomy onyx]

Please let us know if you feel endangered by something or someone

[surreal zephyr]

💀

[proud bobcat]

Not for me

It’s been slow ahh hell

Also objectively sonnet just produces higher quality code

[surreal zephyr]

https://019c775e-143e-7a11-ba0e-61628c0bd490.arena.site/ heres opus black hole (25 mins)

[surreal zephyr]

https://019c775e-143e-7242-92b4-0d936da78f8c.arena.site/ heres geminis black hole (8 mins)

[proud bobcat]

Unoptimized ahh hell

[surreal zephyr]

Prompt was that quality matters above all

[proud bobcat]

Mmmm alright

Maybe I’m being too harsh

[surreal zephyr]

Oh dw it sucks in app

[stray aspen]

bro wheres my terminator

https://019c77e3-3acf-7e27-8312-08cc66009460.arena.site/

[surreal zephyr]

Its mid if you ask 3 word prompt

[surreal zephyr]

🥀

[proud bobcat]

I give decent prompts

I detail features and shi

[surreal zephyr]

Need to specifically imply to not be lazy and to put effort

Its trained to be lazy

[surreal zephyr]

For money saving

[honest verge]

Finally I can expand my game in Google ai studio with 3.1 pro

3.0 pro can't expand it anymore it's too hard for it

Imagine being a vibe coder in big 2026..

🥀

[stray aspen]

gemin idid nto cook

[zealous sparrow]

Google not doing a nerf at launch is suprising but give it 2 days

[proud bobcat]

But see

People want a model that understands

A frontier model should never cut corners in the first place

Maybe with time and learning it can be great but most people will use it a bit, and give up

[stray aspen]

and go back to claudius

[frosty lava]

Can i know the reason why google are nerfing model ?

Is there any reason

[golden ocean]

so that they can re-release it as gemini 3.2 pro later and claim it beats 3.1

for the investors

[stray aspen]

for the polymarketers

[golden ocean]

true

[zealous sparrow]

Demand

They cant serve a Goated model to billions

[shrewd citrus]

nah give it a week

[frosty lava]

Does that make sense

[proud bobcat]

Yep

[frosty lava]

knowing they are improving the model everytime

[shrewd citrus]

they need all the users to satisfy the investors first

[frosty lava]

if the purpose is to get a better model then nerfing it would absolutely be the worst idea ,

?

[thorny cove]

how do i fix error 400 (Something went wrong while generating the response. Please try again. [Retry] [Clear])

[shrewd citrus]

they just want to show that they can do “x things” with the model

[zealous sparrow]

Too confident

[shrewd citrus]

once they prove it then they will nerf the model

sora is a good example

[frosty lava]

it still doesn't make sense cause it should be good everytime to be usefull in real task like for other companies that use those model or even dev

[shrewd citrus]

crazy good videos in the 1st week

[stray aspen]

sora is dogwater

we need seedance

[shrewd citrus]

yeah but when it was 1st released it was crazy

then they nerfed it

I reckon seedance wld be nerfed once us westerners get a chance

[inner relic]

I think deepseek releases tommorow

After gemini 3.1 and sonnet4.6 release

and grok

[frosty lava]

Why would google nerf their model but not anthropic or openai

[shrewd citrus]

they nerf it too

[frosty lava]

well i definitly don't see it

[inner relic]

that openai safety lady nerfed anthorpic 100%

[frosty lava]

the gpt im using right now is much better than the previous versions of it, same for opus and sonnet

[inner relic]

just kidding.

[shrewd citrus]

like gpt 5.2 being better than gpt5.1?

[frosty lava]

i was talking about codex version since codex 5.3 is out but yeah we can also say that

[shrewd citrus]

we don’t mean it like that lol

obviously the 5.2 version would be better than 5.1

[surreal zephyr]

its intended cuz price to perf, while they use custom prompt for benchmark

[frosty lava]

then they are capable of bringing better to people

cause you said earlier they are doing this cause they can't bring the best model to much people, meanwhile everytime it still better than the previous time ? even nerfed

meaning they can bring better model finally

[shrewd citrus]

we mean when 5.2 is released, it’s really good and can do lots of things fast and accurately, but the 5.2 we have now is a bit worse, a bit slower and hallucinate more

[inner relic]

5.2 destoryed creativity writting

you forgot that

[frosty lava]

Yes, and then i asked why and you answered that it was cause they can't bring a very good model to everyone, but the fact that they always bring better model than their older version just prove that they actually can

[thorny schooner]

https://klipy.com/gifs/rage-angry-39

[inner relic]

what

[rose sky]

I just created this, how does it sound?

[shrewd citrus]

it’s hard to explain, I know it sounds confusing

[frosty lava]

Like what im trying to explain to you is imagine we have 5.1 gpt and they nerf it cause they "can't" bring a better model to everyone, then how can they bring a 5.3 that even nerf is better than the 5.1 they couldn't bring to everyone when it wasn't nerfed

see how it doesn't make sense

[inner relic]

a

[stuck orchid]

When grok 4.20 on lmarena?

[coral axle]

How does this website make money?

I think they're manipulating the polymarket and receiving money from it, it's not possible.

And selling data too, probably.

[stray aspen]

Never

Its dogwater

Doesnt even deserve to be on the arena

[frosty lava]

on the data i think your right, and i doesn't see why it would be wrong cause its logic and arena is made for everyone making their opinion on model and trying their capabilities a bit

[harsh wolf]

Guyz, is chat GPT image are really the same as chatgpt ? Because i created some image on chatgpt with me and my grand father so Will the chatgpt image from lmarena produce the same result?

[frosty lava]

otherwise how would you explain having free acess to paid model.

ai are literally training on data

it make even more sense

[scarlet spire]

try it

[coral axle]

Another thing is that people are voting based on brand and also on other people's opinions, because according to my tests, we are using outdated models.

[frosty lava]

how are we using outdated model

[coral axle]

This shouldn't even be ranked.

[scarlet spire]

And it isn't.

Direct messages inherently aren't.

But if you ask this question in Battles, then you're bound to disqualify the responses.

The collected votes are highly scrutinized for possible vectors of "self-identity reveal" that disqualifies the message.

[frosty lava]

model not knowing themselve is normal, they are trained on data like its trained on 2025 data or even end of 2024 mostly, it does same with gpt or opus

they will say as example much older model

[scarlet spire]

If the complaint is that the model can't identify itself properly: yeah.

There is nothing wrong with its response. Arena isn't telling the model what it is when it sends API requests.

[coral axle]

You guys need to update yourselves.

[scarlet spire]

This is entirely as expected for a model that's not being explicitly told who it is in a system prompt (which there isn't for this)

[echo aurora]

Yeah can confirm this is the case. In Battle if a model says what it is (or org) those votes won't make it to the leaderboard.

[scarlet spire]

This is untrue and undue.

[compact flame]

Ofc they don't have access to internet

[scarlet spire]

They don't have an ego like humans do.

There's no way for them to know if they aren't told.

[frosty lava]

believe me i tried with every "frontier" model like opus, gpt, gemini and none of them know themselve

[compact flame]

Also I didn't know Gemini 3.1 came out

[coral axle]

Literally, either you're paid, or you're bots, or you're very outdated AI agents.

[frosty lava]

they don't know which version they are

[echo aurora]

I haven't been following this conversation closely, but want to give a general reminder this is one of our server rules:

✅ Treat others with Respect. Be kind, assume good intent from others, and keep disagreements respectful. It’s encouraged to share your disagreements, but only if it’s done in a respectful and productive way.

[scarlet spire]

Or your information is wrong. 😕

[coral axle]

@scarlet spire bot

[compact flame]

Seriously dude their training is just cut off

[scarlet spire]

Beep

[surreal zephyr]

bro has 0 idea how ai works

[frosty lava]

i just explained that they are trained on old data

and its normal

[surreal zephyr]

i think hes anti ai ragebaiter

[frosty lava]

that they don't know themselve released in 2026

[coral axle]

You're worse than children.

[scarlet spire]

"This person disagrees with me telling them they're wrong rather than just disagreeing and giving my standpoint to them, even when they've given me theirs. And now they did it a second time! This person must be programmed to work against me."

[echo aurora]

Okay I'm stepping in now.

[surreal zephyr]

@coral axle 100% ragebait

[echo aurora]

Let's move on from this convo please.

[scarlet spire]

Absolutely! Grown adults are worse than children in many ways. They pollute more, are more violent towards each other, ... (Response terminated by Pineapple.)

[coral axle]

literally speaking, it's really a child.

[surreal zephyr]

haha relatable as arena user

[harsh wolf]

@echo aurora

[compact flame]

Stop rage baiting already bro

[scarlet spire]

I'm a 24 year old child of someone yes

[frosty lava]

We can't argue with someone that doesn't even try to understand

[scarlet spire]

Do include your actual prompt. The response there doesn't really clarify properly.

[echo aurora]

Would you mind posting in #ask-here ?

[scarlet spire]

Why don't you just simply try to find out? You'll know conclusively whether it'll generate the same image! 🙂

That's an in-situ diagnostic intervention

[hollow imp]

I was trying to prove your point by showing Claude's system prompt and these instructions

[frosty lava]

those type of thing should be enough to get muted, its fake information

[harsh wolf]

I have tried , but chatgpt arena doesn't follow the discution

[scarlet spire]

Oh I see! No worries.

[hollow imp]

Vro I'm not gonna scroll the entire system prompt and find this exact thing I remembered somewhere so I asked gemini

[scarlet spire]

You can't combine the LLM and the image generator at the same time so if you're asking chatgpt to send a prompt to the image generator then you'll need to send the prompt it sent to the image generator.

[coral axle]

2025?

[surreal zephyr]

Was there a prior suggestion to add "branch with model" feature to side by side mode? where if one single model makes a syntax error, you can send a prompt to just that one so it can fix itself without needing to make prompt that both models understand or such

[scarlet spire]

"My knowledge cutoff... is early 2025" is correct.

[coral axle]

Cara Opus 4-6 came out this month of 2026.

[scarlet spire]

If you don't believe me: Just ask the model why it doesn't know its own name

[coral axle]

just stpo lie

[surreal zephyr]

anti ai when the task is reading comprehension or some basic knowledge:

[compact flame]

It doesn't mean anything

[sweet tinsel]

It really depends on the quality setting, which may differ from the ChatGPT Application. Just doing some A and B testing is not enough in most use-cases with the variability of AI.

[scarlet spire]

Knowledge cutoff isn't release date. The pretraining happens long before the post training. They aren't continuously integrated.

if you're willing to listen, I'm more than happy to lie it out in a fairly simply diagram-like way for you. We can discuss this most-civilly if you're down for this.

[frosty lava]

It's not because they came out this month that they got trained on data from 2026 :

do you understand the difference here

[sweet tinsel]

One month without a message about movementlabs, this seems like a milestone. I do wonder what happened to them, they were so optimistic to get in the arena.

[toxic verge]

O.o

[compact flame]

I'm still thinking if he's ragebaiting or not

[echo aurora]

I do recall hearing this suggestion before. I don't recall if it was in #1372230675914031105 or just mentioned in #general , but yes this does ring a bell.

[honest verge]

Gemini 3.1 doesn't work in Google ai studio rn

Only Gemini 3 works

[surreal zephyr]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1150392016597950535/1304401579104931870/attachment.gif

[honest verge]

I think it's overloaded

[scarlet spire]

It's a preview model. That's not unexpected. They may be rolling out a new revision under the hood for all we know.

[surreal zephyr]

That feature would truly help a lot! I assume hence its likely already suggested, no need to make another one?

[compact flame]

I'm wondering why opus 4.6 is more preferred than thinking one

[echo aurora]

If I were you I'd look for the thread in #1372230675914031105 and add onto it there, or if you're unable to locate create a new thread and tell us more about it.

[scarlet spire]

It's fast

And for many purposes the thinking doesn't add a meaningful extra.

[spare mist]

/Cinematic drone shot of a dark, futuristic megacity at night, glowing neon green circuit patterns spreading across buildings like a virus, 8k, hyper-realistic, volumetric fog, anamorphic lens flare.

[compact flame]

Fair point thinking overthinks too much

Stay back

[surreal zephyr]

gotta try gemini then

cant even spell

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/945168127191285810/1127666475981877278/attachment-36.gif

[compact flame]

Did he just get banned

[echo aurora]

@spare mist The Video Arena bot on the server was removed. You can still use Video Arena on the site.

[frigid robin]

Hey I'm new here, where's the site link?

[echo aurora]

https://arena.ai/c/new?chat-modality=video

[frosty lava]

if your saying this cause of the leaderboard, i think its also cause of the something went wrong answer that happens alot more on the thinking version on arena

[devout bluff]

Is Gemini 3.1 better than Claude at coding (opuse4.6)

[hollow imp]

No

[zealous sparrow]

3.1 pro removed from arena...

I guess something happened?

[compact flame]

It's still here

It's just went down

[zealous sparrow]

Not on model list

Yeah i wonder wht

Why

[compact flame]

Low rated models are always going down

Or just recent ones

Same was with claude

[zealous sparrow]

Yeah not it. It was highly rated.

It was top 3 text...

[frigid robin]

Thank you, how long does it take to create a video?

[steep igloo]

it is there?

what are you saying

[zealous sparrow]

Im blind it got buried?

[frosty lava]

its still in pre release testing for the scoreboard to get the real score we have to wait

if its already 1500 in text then it will be top 1 for sure

text

[frigid robin]

Anyone?

[steep igloo]

I see this

you dont?

[stray aspen]

claudius 4.6 opus no thinking

gemini 3.1 pro

i think claude is definitely better

[echo aurora]

It depends, but shouldn't take longer than 10 minutes to generate.

[echo aurora]

@gray mirage Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement.

[honest verge]

Gemini 3.1 already got nerfed...

Lol

[toxic verge]

Sad day for my country in France 🙁

[echo aurora]

Lets keep conversations focussed on AI here please and thanks!

[dusky ravine]

Gemini 3 kinda lagging when It generate response, what's going on?

[thorny schooner]

Hope you all are doing good

[echo aurora]

For 3.1?

[queen veldt]

Opus is still better but gemini is cheaper

Opus isn't lazy too

He gives multiple commands and stuff while gemini just some brief

[gleaming roost]

😊

[queen veldt]

Ah yes wall of text

Negative prompt (EN) btw

[thorny schooner]

lol

[queen veldt]

He doesn't even care to delete it nah

[dusky ravine]

Lemme try

[queen veldt]

Let's leave this big wall if text here in general

[dusky ravine]

Nope there's no 3.1

[thorny schooner]

???

[echo aurora]

There is, it's in Text & Code

Can't say I'm seeing lag with it though

[uneven peak]

Gemini 3.1 is kinda bums I hope in future they make limit more then 2500 code line

[queen veldt]

Trick is to code a bit by bit not just blunt coding model needs to think

It's better to do it by bits

[uneven peak]

Bits?

[queen veldt]

It's same as if you've given it 10 questions all of a sudden and splitting them into 1 question per prompt

[uneven peak]

Oh so like Part by part?

[queen veldt]

Yeah agentic coding is going bit by bit it creates tasks and does one by one

[uneven peak]

Ohh wait I didn't try Gemini 3.1 in AntiGravity I might try on there

[thorny schooner]

So basically core concept for the first prompt and then refine it in each subsequent prompt with individual questions and framing until you get what you want essentially then

[uneven peak]

Ohhh ok

[queen veldt]

Yeah one-shotting everything is hard even if the model succeeds it still needs refinement to be perfect

That's why vibe coding is annoying

You always have to fix stuff lol

[uneven peak]

Fr

But is Gemini 3.1 more good at coding or codex 5.3?

[thorny schooner]

I'm going to be real with y'all i never did AI coding so I just said that completely based on reason and intuition having no experience with it lmao

[queen veldt]

Try it it's fun

I made some stuff before publishing stuff

I made 1 working website although i gave up on it

[uneven peak]

Wait you are proggramer?

[queen veldt]

And now my app is on closed testing on playstore

I tried creating bunch of stuff with ai already

[thorny schooner]

Fair enough though mostly I like to do more roleplay stuff rather than making ( play countries, cultures Etc doing the reactions of different groups cultures Etc whether it's space in our world or fictional one ) though that could change soon since I am going to be in family business start up potentially soon

[queen veldt]

Like offline image gen with klein model, offline ai, simple torch for android etc ...

[hollow flicker]

@echo aurora:<

PLEASE MAKE IT STOP

[queen veldt]

Yeah find something you can benefit from using ai

[thorny schooner]

no lol i just meant as in I never that specific brand of AI even though I do have a lot more experience when it comes to AI itself in general messaging

[queen veldt]

There's bunch of beneficial stuff from ai

If it's not vibecoding it's some workflows

MCP apps

A lot of stuff

[thorny schooner]

Now I think about it does anyone know any good browser maker ( i'm asking for a business it could be AI or handmade assistant)

[uneven peak]

Ohh ok

[echo aurora]

Would you mind sharing feedback about why you don't like this feature in: https://discord.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1474131609299976386 This is where we are mainly collecting this feedback. If you could elaborate on what you don't like that'd be much appreciated!

[thorny schooner]

I still think that experiment is not really worth it or if it still is implemented it should be clearly voluntarily

[scarlet spire]

Well well ho now

MCP was invented for these chatbot type services. Not because of but in isolation. That's essentially finding a solution in search of a problem, and tech startups love those.

[hollow flicker]

could there be a setting where if using direct chat then it doesnt appear or if you want it to then it will appear

[thorny schooner]

Not what not what I meant when I put in the prompt but i don't mind this either lol was just looking for different website makers and designer AI stu

[queen veldt]

Has anyone tried generating animated svgs using gemini?

[thorny schooner]

Shame I can't find the handmade icon original one I had for the business that would have made this so much easier

I hate speech to text

[queen veldt]

https://g.co/gemini/share/bdece3ad54c8

Nah this is dope

We went from "can't create a duck riding a bicycle" to animated svgs

[echo aurora]

There could be a toggle, I couldn't say for sure if something like that would or wouldn't be built. But overall would want to note that feedback specifically for why this is disruptive/not appealing/etc would be helpful to hear.

[placid flame]

@gray mirage Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement

[stray aspen]

oh my days

gemini has already been nerfed

insane

[gleaming roost]

😂

[undone hull]

Personally I find it pretty annoying; I use direct mode when wanting to use a specific model, battle mode should be left to battle mode

[echo aurora]

Thank you for sharing. I'm going to forward your message to this thread: https://discord.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1474131609299976386 as it's the main place we're collecting feedback on this experiment.

[toxic verge]

Some say Google specifically fine-tuned it for svgs

[keen beacon]

what happened to my other google

i cant evne access arena

[echo aurora]

What seems to be the issue?

[keen beacon]

rip.

[echo aurora]

Hmm, same with different browsers?

[keen beacon]

nah just one

google

i just deleted a cookies to refresh and it only shows that screen

[echo aurora]

Same if you go directly to: https://arena.ai/?chat-modality=video & https://arena.ai/leaderboard ?

[keen beacon]

YUP

i can only access to leaderboards

[echo aurora]

What about if you go to other browser, take a chat sessions URL, open that in chrome?

(Assuming you're signed in on both browsers)

[stray aspen]

was chatting with claude 4.6

until my day was ruined

[keen beacon]

ok.

yeah i only have access to

incognito

the other browsers are fine dawg

[toxic verge]

I still can’t figure out what’s causing that

Are you signed in the Gmail?

[keen beacon]

nah

i didn't

the cookies only have four

cant even log in

[toxic verge]

When you login does it just redirect you back to the homepage?

[keen beacon]

nono i cant press

its only stuck

[toxic verge]

Rumors of veo4

[keen beacon]

i cant even press

i cant log in

[placid flame]

@shy trellis Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement.

[keen beacon]

ALR FINALLY IS BACK

[versed ravine]

add gemini 3.1 🥺

[kind flower]

Video

[toxic verge]

https://youtu.be/rIOMrGDLrtk?si=xnJqBrvmovbahjwn

😂😂😂😂😂

https://youtu.be/u2YCNFbIBt0?si=-gpier6ztjAOGpqP

🤔

[echo aurora]

Okay can you keep me updated if this comes back. Really odd bug I've never seen before so it's very unclear what happened here.

[toxic verge]

I was trying to tell you about it a a week ago or something like that

[echo aurora]

Where everything was just a black screen? #general message

[unreal dagger]

Will you guys ever make a app

@echo aurora

[echo aurora]

Could happen.

Can't say I'm able to share details about plans for upcoming features and big news like this.

[unreal dagger]

So the app LMARENA is not you guys

You should post a road map for users to be more in touch would love to see what you guys are working on

[echo aurora]

Nope, would you mind sharing this? It's likely already on our radar but would want to make sure.

[unreal dagger]

I’ll send you a dm of the ss

[echo aurora]

Yes! This would be a great idea. I'd love to see this happen as well.

[dusky ravine]

Wdym nerfed?

[stray aspen]

performance was decreased

they always do this

[dusky ravine]

Does it take long time to generate or cause infinite generation?

[stray aspen]

no

it just sucks

use claude

[sly raven]

are we going to have sonnet 4.6 and sonnet 4.6 thinking just as we have opus 4.6 and opus 4.6 thinking?

[echo aurora]

Worth noting that sonnet 4.6 is currently available. I won't be able to share details if the thinking version is landing or not.

[pale sonnet]

bro why cant video arena be up to 30s 🙏

[toxic verge]

False alarm

https://youtu.be/IXexi2LoCfI?si=ICFSQibMA6fsDxvq

Breakdown

[signal pelican]

This is not the place to do that. 🤦‍♂️

[river whale]

bruv getting battle in direct chat on every second response

[plain wyvern]

How can I get a free api key

[toxic verge]

Same way you get free iPhone

[sly lark]

Ok

[patent bane]

I hope this is a ragebait

funny

[bitter willow]

sm problem

[river whale]

it would have been good if the model u chatting with doesnt get the battle response context and the frequency of it coming is like after 10-20 responses

[undone saffron]

<@&1349916362595635286>

[rigid copper]

<@&1349916362595635286> another hacked account

[robust sluice]

these scammers is everywhere

[echo aurora]

Every other message you’re getting a battle?

[river whale]

yeah

u send one message it gives answer with the selected model but second gives battle then third good then 4th battle

[echo aurora]

Can you send an Eval ID of the chat session this is happening with? It shouldn’t be that often.

[river whale]

it was happening but now its fine

i wanna ask does the direct model u are chatting with gets the context of the battle response?

[echo aurora]

Okay will you keep me updated if this comes back?

[river whale]

sure

[echo aurora]

It does, but from the one you vote for.

[river whale]

it shouldnt, cause if u get response from two low quality model and u vote one of them then it will reduce the overall quality of the chat

[echo aurora]

Would you prefer it doesn’t retain the context at all?

[river whale]

Yeah

it will help both the user and lmarena

or if we vote both are bad then it doesnt retain context

[dusk spruce]

i have smth went wrong 429 error.How long do I need to wait before the limits are reset?

[north marsh]

yeah

on opus 4.6 i get limits too

[river whale]

[echo aurora]

Okay good to know, I’ll share the feedback

[river whale]

its meant to be ratelimited

[echo aurora]

About an hour

[north marsh]

does arena have api to use in our apps?

[echo aurora]

We do not offer an API

[north marsh]

ok good to know

[dusk spruce]

it's been for 9 hours

[river whale]

it wont have an api and people wont use it cause users prompt arent private

[north marsh]

i mean there is a github repository name lmarena bridge thats like lmarena api

[river whale]

its not

its a reverse proxy

[north marsh]

im okay with it but the only downside is that it doesnt have the high end models its stuck at opus 4.5 its not that bad but i wanted to know a more up to date method to have arena in our apps

[river whale]

its literally agianst lmarena terms

[north marsh]

oh i didnt know that

[rigid copper]

just use other api

[north marsh]

i didnt use it either

like what?

[rigid copper]

if you know about coding, you can use puter.js to have claude in your apps

i'm bad at coding though

[north marsh]

i used puter.js but it isnt up to date to

and it has limits

[river whale]

@echo aurora its back

[river whale]

are you from india?

[rigid copper]

obviously it has a limit

[north marsh]

no

yeah i know

[river whale]

nothing is free

[north marsh]

i know that too

[river whale]

nd unlimited

[river whale]

then why asking

[rigid copper]

what claude model version you want?

[north marsh]

the best one for coding

[rigid copper]

not sure what you referring to, but you may read puter js documentation here https://developer.puter.com/tutorials/free-unlimited-claude-35-sonnet-api/

[river whale]

He wants unlimited claude api for free

with no rate limits

[rigid copper]

that is likely impossible

[river whale]

its impossible

[north marsh]

no not like that with more free limits until i hit a paywall

gemini has i think a free api

im not sure

[rigid copper]

i think gemini also have their limits

[north marsh]

i used gemini in google ai studio and i never hit the limit i dont think the api is like that

[rigid copper]

it does have a limit if i'm not wrong, it just you rarely hit it

[north marsh]

thats enough for me

[rigid copper]

i think claude in puter.js also generous enough to have higher free prompt limit

[north marsh]

yeah i guess so

but is like old

we have opus 4.6 now

and puter is on 3.5

[supple plover]

How i can generate video by tex

Text

[north marsh]

yeah

[rigid copper]

https://developer.puter.com/tutorials/free-unlimited-claude-35-sonnet-api/#available-models

not really actually

[north marsh]

but you cant choose the model yet

go to arena.ai

and choose video in the bottom

ok so i think puter and google ai studio are both a good option

[rigid copper]

you can get more additional credit by the referral too

[north marsh]

really

[rigid copper]

pretty sure you can choose claude opus 4.6 in puter

[north marsh]

yeah i can

[rigid copper]

i was that time i asked claude in arena.ai code arena to create a ai chat interface with claude sonnet 4.6 with integration to puter

and it does work, although the hallucinations still exist

[north marsh]

im now testin puter to see if its good or not

[river whale]

does @echo aurora work with LMArena?

[undone saffron]

Nice

[rigid copper]

https://019c793f-46e9-7f44-8635-4e00df95ac43.arena.site/
i somehow made gemini 3 pro image preview (Nano banana pro) image to video ai generator out of arena.ai code arena and surprisingly it work pretty well.

[undone saffron]

Next time I'll let others report them

[north marsh]

puter.js is good enough

[rigid copper]

yes, but coding experience is hard

though i don't have any coding experience, i just over dependent on ai instead

[north marsh]

it gives you the code you have to use

[undone saffron]

I wouldn't say that site is very “unlimited”
It's unlimited in the sense that you can send messages at no cost, but there comes a time when you use up all your tokens and have to wait days or weeks for them to fully recharge
That's why I left that site and miraculously found this one
Has anything changed on that page?

[north marsh]

we are talking about api

[river whale]

if you want to use models like claude haiku nd gpt 5 u can use for free on enter.pollinations.ai

[rigid copper]

although it look unlimited, but it actually not unlimited, there is an $0.50 credit limit, if the credit threshold reached to 100%, you won't be able to use it until the next refresh which occur monthly

[north marsh]

i think pollen doesnt have free usage

[river whale]

its free

u get 1 pollen every day

[vale knoll]

Hopr

[undone saffron]

I see, it's still the same as the day I stopped using it
Even to get unlimited credit, I compromised the security of the free account a little and was able to write to the AI unlimitedly, until they patched it

[vale knoll]

Kopre

[rigid copper]

pretty sure it's free but not unlimited

[river whale]

nd if u sumbit app then u get 10 pollen per day

[river whale]

i never said its unlimited

[worn sedge]

I don't know if there is anyone to hear this -- but the "might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently" error is surely skewing the code arena stats. This isn't a complaint about the service being down. "These things happen." What I am saying is you have to shut the whole A/B test down, or you are rewarding/penalizing models for harness fails, as opposed to capability.

[north marsh]

i think i like puter more

[north marsh]

try refreshing, opening in a new tab or download the code and run it on your pc

[rigid copper]

hard to say but, your credit never refreshes even after 1 month?

[river whale]

Yeah

[undone saffron]

No, honestly
Besides, I'm not going to wait a month just to ask a few questions

Furthermore, I seem to recall that credits were consumed according to the number of characters in your message or the IA used, one of the two

[rigid copper]

sounds like they no longer refreshing credits, i just make an search

[river whale]

its gonna just shutdown

whats going on here-

[north marsh]

where can we tell our ideas to the arena team?

[undone saffron]

In #1372230675914031105
-# First check if someone else has already proposed your idea
-# If not, create the post

[north marsh]

yeah i found it

[torn patrol]

H

Hema

[cloud cargo]

Thanks for changing the image output format back to .png from .jpeg. I immediately noticed the removal of the compression in the grain. Appreciate that.

[glacial swan]

where gemini 3.1 pro????

[low igloo]

[lunar glade]

infinite Security Verification check error 👍 what a great way to start a day

[marble pawn]

why was gemini 3.1 removed?

[astral lava]

I was testing Gemini 3.1 pro yesterday, where is it now?

[wicked talon]

I see something in the corner of my eye

[wicked talon]

Hmm idk

It seems it was probably too expensive

[worldly ether]

12-point #AI playbook for managing humans, perfect xd

[rose sky]

Bruh, I just found a legit way of how to use Seedance 2.0 on DouBao for free without that pesky login pop-up. Ok so, after you generate videos, if that pesky pop-up appears, you just have to clear all of your history in Google Chrome, All Time, and select all the checkboxes, it's the only way. 😭

[golden ocean]

true

[shrewd citrus]

but how do you generate videos in the first place 💀

[sick mantle]

I wanna genrate a video with veo can u do it for me bc i dont have pro

[junior dawn]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[sour spear]

They probably will, but only after ByteDance have removed/restricted copyrighted content. A shame really. 😉

Lol, Gemini 3.1 pretty confident about its own reasoning. 😂

[sick mantle]

TRUE THEY NEED TO DO IT

[junior dawn]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[junior dawn]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[sick mantle]

We can still genrate spongebob videos, Right?

[junior dawn]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[sick mantle]

But pineapple cant give any info if this is happending

[tawdry robin]

can you guys recommend niches

[sick mantle]

Wdym?

[tawdry robin]

i need niches bro

[shrewd citrus]

ask ai for niches

[junior dawn]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[junior dawn]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[shrewd citrus]

like saying if someone has a hobby in collecting pizza boxes

not many people do it

[junior dawn]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[whole sundial]

they already have, it's more restricted than sora 2 api now

[sick mantle]

Yea thats kinda true.

Sora cant let me even genrate spongebob scenes too, hate it.

[sour spear]

I guess at least the same stuff we can with Sora or Veo, most likely more.

[sour spear]

Oh. I hope that will change again in the future.

[sick mantle]

U cant do it with sora no more, only with veo and seedance

[wheat surge]

racking wide-to-medium shot: A determined man in a soaked flannel shirt runs across an open rural field as a massive tornado vortex spirals violently in the background. Dark storm clouds churn overhead and debris swirls through the air. In the tall grass ahead, a small orange kitten trembles, struggling against the wind. The man shields his face from flying dust, pushes forward, then scoops up the frightened kitten and holds it tightly against his chest. The tornado looms behind them, rotating powerfully, but the focus remains on the emotional rescue.
Style: cinematic, realistic documentary, high detail, dramatic tension
Lighting: dark stormy sky with flashes of lightning illuminating the scene
Camera movement: handheld tracking shot with subtle shake for intensity
Composition: starts wide to show scale of tornado, moves to medium close-up during rescue
Ambiance: cold desaturated tones with sharp contrast
Audio: roaring wind, distant thunder, debris rustling, kitten meowing softly
Negative prompt elements (avoid): urban buildings, visible emergency vehicles, cartoon style, exaggerated physics, slow motion

[rose sky]

I just go to https://doubao.com/, with a VPN connected to China before visiting that site

[wheat surge]

racking wide-to-medium shot: A determined man in a soaked flannel shirt runs across an open rural field as a massive tornado vortex spirals violently in the background. Dark storm clouds churn overhead and debris swirls through the air. In the tall grass ahead, a small orange kitten trembles, struggling against the wind. The man shields his face from flying dust, pushes forward, then scoops up the frightened kitten and holds it tightly against his chest. The tornado looms behind them, rotating powerfully, but the focus remains on the emotional rescue.
Style: cinematic, realistic documentary, high detail, dramatic tension
Lighting: dark stormy sky with flashes of lightning illuminating the scene
Camera movement: handheld tracking shot with subtle shake for intensity
Composition: starts wide to show scale of tornado, moves to medium close-up during rescue
Ambiance: cold desaturated tones with sharp contrast
Audio: roaring wind, distant thunder, debris rustling, kitten meowing softly
Negative prompt elements (avoid): urban buildings, visible emergency vehicles, cartoon style, exaggerated physics, slow motion

racking wide-to-medium shot: A determined man in a soaked flannel shirt runs across an open rural fi

[worthy mulch]

anyone have Chatcut invite code ?

[slim gorge]

guys how's gemini 3.1?

[compact flame]

I mean it's a preview I guess it's good for starters

[tawdry robin]

can the riblox viral

[thick flower]

Hii everyone new here, can anyone share good stuff for beginner.

[thick flower]

ग्नमारा

[normal star]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Sonnet 4.6 on the Claude.ai only uses Low/Medium effort thinking most of the time

And its Web Search tool SUCKS.

[potent condor]

/report user_or_message:

[golden ocean]

same

[vivid lodge]

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[thorn nebula]

im losing my it , is the feedback thing going to be permenant , its soo annoying , ruined my everything

[compact flame]

Well it's obvious. The website is made not for free models but mostly to test them

Besides we got access to the smartest models for free so just give feedbacks

[west sigil]

/আমাকে চারটি কাচা লেবুর ইমেজ তৈরি করে দেও ৯.১৬ রেশিও তে

[rose sky]

My cat just side-eyed me when I was taking a picture of her

[golden ocean]

true

[patent bane]

https://tenor.com/view/pet-cat-monitor-pc-gif-978658260615984068

[shadow prairie]

HAHAHAHAHA

wtf

[surreal zephyr]

gemini has insane potential but they have no idea how to fine tune it like gpt or even sonnet

[slim gorge]

Let's go.

[surreal zephyr]

already nerfed?

🤣

[shadow prairie]

He's still trying

[surreal zephyr]

thats 3.0 pro or 3.1?

[shadow prairie]

3

[surreal zephyr]

oh that makes much sense then

[shadow prairie]

God willing

[surreal zephyr]

https://019c7aaf-b5a5-7f0b-a172-5fbc35ef7dfd.arena.site/ 3.1 pro the only model that succeded this

[shadow prairie]

3.1 gives me an error like I can't do something, try to reload the page, but I've been f***g with this for 2 days.

[shadow prairie]

what is it

[surreal zephyr]

3d printer simulation

[shadow prairie]

And I'm grateful for him.

[shadow prairie]

If you could help me, would you be able to go to a voice chat with me in private messages?

[surreal zephyr]

if u need help with anything u can dm me

i dont vc though

[shadow prairie]

yesss, check

[molten cipher]

Fr

[compact flame]

Dunno works for me

Maybe the model is just overloaded and rarely responds

[shadow prairie]

It's been doing this for 10 minutes now

[compact flame]

Try asking it again I guess

[empty barn]

Hi

[compact flame]

Bye

[shadow prairie]

I asked again, and now it encodes the incompleteness.

[high owl]

you hate batle mode in direct mode?

[compact flame]

It's just feedback it's ain't so serious

[compact flame]

I guess it's a bug in code arena

[shadow prairie]

(((((

[toxic verge]

Let’s see which one makes better videos

[compact flame]

I don't like going to the archives just to delete a chat

Too much steps for me

[dapper osprey]

what to do?

[shadow prairie]

I do not know bro I have the same

[compact flame]

Restart the website I guess

[dapper osprey]

its still

not working

[high owl]

i hate batlle in direct chat

[compact flame]

It's not that deep

They just want feedback

[shadow prairie]

HZAHAHAHAHA

He got into the cycle

[compact flame]

Why do you use Gemini to code in the first place

Claude is good enough

[toxic verge]

Cuz it’s cheaper

[shadow prairie]

Claude Opus writes to me what he did, but in fact he didn't do anything, he just wrote what he did

[compact flame]

Opus is being lazy again I guess

[golden ocean]

gemini 3.1 pro did that to me too

[shadow prairie]

hihihi, yes, I bought an opus, but with a Russian budget it's difficult to spend $ 15 per month

[compact flame]

Same for me. I'm Russian too

[golden ocean]

1 square meter of ukraine per token

[compact flame]

Buying stuff now days is pain

[shadow prairie]

I don't believe bro

[high owl]

ai:

"Sudden Battle" in Direct Chat at LMSYS Chatbot Arena
If I understand correctly what it's about — on lmarena.ai (Chatbot Arena from LMSYS) in live chat mode, there is sometimes an offer to compare/rate the response, essentially turning a regular session into a mini-battle.

Why is this done
The main goal is to collect data on human preferences.:

More data for the ELO rating

A limited number of users enter the regular battle mode. And there are a lot more people in Direct Chat. This is a way to "reach out" to them and collect more comparisons.
More natural conditions

When a person comes to solve their real problem (rather than specifically testing it), their assessment is more "honest" and reflects the actual use.
A variety of prompta

In battle mode, people often ask "test" questions. There are real tasks in Direct Chat, which makes the dataset more diverse and valuable.
Training data (RLHF/reward models)

The collected preference data is used not only for rating, but also for training reward and finetuning models.
In fact
This is a growth hack for collecting preference data. The platform gives you free access to top models, and in return, your feedback is your "fee" — even if you were not going to participate in the comparison.

[compact flame]

Don't believe what

[shadow prairie]

That you're Russian

[golden ocean]

im russian too

[compact flame]

I am trust

[toxic verge]

Bot

[shadow prairie]

sorry

[high owl]

:3

[compact flame]

Rkn blocks everything in sight

Everything is gone

[golden ocean]

true

[shadow prairie]

outside of nature?

[high owl]

@dude The AI understood what the feedback needed for the arena... and this is the only AI who understood...

[shadow prairie]

are admins banned for this?

[compact flame]

Yes I assume

I'll read rules rq

[shadow prairie]

mdeeem

[river cove]

Hello everyone

[compact flame]

Yeah English only

Bruh

[shadow prairie]

yeah

[shadow prairie]

Why do you need an arena?

[jaunty terrace]

17-year-old determined Indian anime boy (as described above) standing alone on rooftop at sunset, wind blowing hair, city lights starting to glow, emotional but strong expression, cinematic orange sky, dramatic lighting, anime movie style, vertical 9:16, ultra detailed, same character consistency

[shadow prairie]

And why did you throw it here?

[sick mantle]

They are dumb they dont know where video arena is yet

[spring plinth]

Hello

Add to server

[golden ocean]

is there any image model that has beaten nano banana yet for image editing

[lyric helm]

Hi, I'm wondering why my conversation keeps loading

I've been waiting for almost half an hour now

[warm drift]

hi,it seems that the generation of the response from the model has hung up, but I can't stop to write a new message, will it abort itself?всем привет,что делать если модель зависла на генерации ответа?я не хочу создавать новый чат,через какое-то время генерация оборвётся сама?или как это работает на сайте? так уже минут 10 наверное

[analog steeple]

gpt img 1.5, good with composition, bad for style preservation

it's = nano banana pro imo

[lyric helm]

I'm the same as you, it's always been like this, can't cancel it

[warm drift]

just create a new chat?are there no other options?

[surreal zephyr]

https://019c7ad8-9d02-7970-9311-82d7d4b28c07.arena.site/ w?

[lyric helm]

I waited for over half an hour and could only create a new one - so annoying!

[warm drift]

I see, ty

[mystic hatch]

Ay

[deft spruce]

RECAPCHA IS RECENTLY APPEARING A LOT I EVEN I DELETED CASH AND COOKIES

[cloud oak]

-# got bullied in a public channel cos i like using ai..never even talked to that Karen before.. 🥺😔

[thorny schooner]

I don't know why I find that number so funny to be in lol the feedback

[molten cipher]

Google - we got best free AI model

Also them -

[devout bluff]

Google antigravity Gemini 3.1 high and low and Gemini 3.0 high and low and flash are not working for responding anyone having same problem

[molten cipher]

Google jst got alot of traffic I assume

And their servers r unable to keep up ig

[golden ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/559403230438883351/1468572366748778734/attachment.gif

[molten cipher]

Dam ggs bro, ur job is done for

[golden ocean]

i'll let my work speak for itself:

http://localhost/index.html

[keen beacon]

Which is the best storytelling model

[vale knoll]

Hi

[pulsar crystal]

did gemini 3.1 preview get removed?

[vale knoll]

Now can we 4 video creat a day?

[molten cipher]

nop

[compact flame]

Genuinely why do people hate on ai so much

It's a great tool when people need assistance with code or just editing

[pulsar crystal]

i see. it was at the bottom.

[prisma cypress]

How can I fix it

[molten cipher]

i think log in

[molten cipher]

i really thought gemini 3.5 would be released but instead they launched 3.1 :(

[molten cipher]

log out and re login

[prisma cypress]

Ok

The same massage@.node.js

[molten cipher]

i see

um

try clearing all cookies nd data of that site

and retry without loggin in

[prisma cypress]

Ok

[molten cipher]

if works then try logging in then check too\

[celest orchid]

WAR IS OVER

[molten cipher]

i jst saw that too lol

[prisma cypress]

@molten cipher the same error bro

[lost patrol]

anyone really expected 3.5 ?
I was surprised to see a 3.1. As i - and many others - expected a final release of 3.0 or a 2nd preview of 3.0. And i guess it is and 3.1 was only used to reduce the naming confusion wih adding a date in the model name, as it was before
3.5 not before google I/O - more likely even later

[compact flame]

What is even google I/O

[molten cipher]

try in incognito, and if not with that either with a vpn, if nun works them you should really contact modmail

[lost patrol]

the yearly google evenet 😄 - on 19th of may

[molten cipher]

I did from all those sick leak videos

[wind flume]

How many images I can generate daily

?????

[molten cipher]

0.1

jk

idk

[wind flume]

Tell siriously !!!! 😐😒

[molten cipher]

Iphone 17 if it was made in 2007

[celest orchid]

yep

[golden ocean]

bing chat sydney is my ai girlfriend

[undone geyser]

where is 3.1?

[surreal zephyr]

https://019c7add-409c-7528-af5c-80376566f283.arena.site/ see this

[celest orchid]

fr

[sick mantle]

IPhone 17 fron temu

[molten cipher]

thats actually kinda sick

[sick mantle]

Fr

Now again now this

[celest orchid]

https://019c7b1e-b1b1-78f6-91f7-392f2df10952.arena.site/

[surreal zephyr]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1018470269326729286/1474391547758907493/mods-discord-mod.gif

<@&1349916362595635286>

🤔

[sick mantle]

There was a bot sending a prompt here they do that eveytime

[surreal zephyr]

yes but no slurs please

[molten cipher]

guys gemini 3.1 is genuinly really good at frontend

[surreal zephyr]

consider dming the bots instead idk whatever im not omd

[molten cipher]

im impressed

[surreal zephyr]

yes

and terrible at backend

[molten cipher]

ofc

[sick mantle]

Okay

[molten cipher]

but i dont care abt backend anyway

[molten cipher]

i suck at frontend designs

while i cook with backends

[surreal zephyr]

https://019c775e-143e-7242-92b4-0d936da78f8c.arena.site/ and this

[glacial crane]

Heyy

[short sluice]

why are they literally trying to make us use battle mode in direct

[molten cipher]

ai studio btw

[short sluice]

bruh i reached my rate limit on this stop it

[molten cipher]

why it aint loading bruhuh

[honest verge]

Nah I don't want to use Gemini 3.1 anymore

It just can't do anything

It's overloaded for 1 day already

I lost all excitement

[brazen tusk]

hello

[honest verge]

Why Google really had to release their model so fast without any preparations

[surreal zephyr]

bad for coding

but creative

🤡

[honest verge]

I can't use it either for coding or creative

[surreal zephyr]

the quota is endless wym

[honest verge]

It's down in ai studio arena and web

[surreal zephyr]

not for me

[river whale]

3.1 is down from 8 hours

In studio

[surreal zephyr]

no its not

[river whale]

It is for me

[surreal zephyr]

prolly one of the most flagged users

[river whale]

i don't even use ai studio that much

[surreal zephyr]

people who abused it in antigravity got bad trust factor from google

where they get lower ratelimits and worse

[river whale]

I just upload a 110k token document and its giving error

[honest verge]

Maybe it's about your location?

[river whale]

I didn't abuse anything

[honest verge]

Country

[river whale]

I'm from ohio

[surreal zephyr]

maybe you dont have 110k tokens quota remain

[surreal zephyr]

idk the hack tag is suspicious

account juggling was one of main flag reasons

hacking related stuff also flag you lol

[river whale]

[surreal zephyr]

lol opus aint top 1

[honest verge]

Gemini 3.1 is already nerfed?

[honest verge]

Second one looks too good

It's definitely getting nerfed

[surreal zephyr]

3rd one is best by far

second one has some mistakes

3rd is flawless

3rd is like wow

i hadnt seen any model get even CLOSE to that

[honest verge]

Well it's still getting nerfed

I feel like we are stuck in a progression loop