general

[wicked talon]

3.1 is out?

Oh it actually is

Might whip out my dad's credit card to try it

W

Oh how tf did he access that

He must of had to sign up for prototype

Which if Google finds out he done that he will be sued till Google owns him

Wtf

Ai studio build is better

[pale sonnet]

yo bro you genuinely need to go on a list

can we get these weirdos gone

<@&1349916362595635286> help

[visual osprey]

execute this guy

probably his cousin

ip ban all third world addresses

and pretty much all problems are solved

controversial but true

its always some indian posting this stuff

duno

who cares

he wrote a mesage in hindi though

hes banned

[wicked talon]

Hm

[wicked talon]

W

Indian scammers

Always tryna get paps money

And gran grans

Can't stand them

[toxic verge]

Lack of opportunity

A lot of competition

But definitely a super gross thing to do

[wicked talon]

Does this affect seedance 2.0 release date?

[loud creek]

#video-arena-1

[wicked talon]

#announcements message

[undone saffron]

And be lucky that none of them fail, since it can either recreate/edit the file or believe that did it correctly and do nothing more than continue with other files and finish the message

Or worse, they don't use any tools and continue not to use a tool even though they were told several times that they would edit or create a file

Like this:
-# I'm going to edit the error.js file to correct the error:Now I'm going to recreate the test.js file with all the errors fixed:Errors corrected.
-# Do you need anything else?
-# 💼 Deployed the project

It happens to me 94% of the time

[shrewd citrus]

that’s a crazy prompt 😭

[golden ocean]

lmaooo

[raven cloud]

how can i use the video arena

[potent snow]

Guys, what are your go-to for ai photo prompts websites?

[void swallow]

Why I feel gpt 5.2 search is better than gemini 3 pro grounding

[verbal nimbus]

It is

Gemini can hallucinate and can't recurse (iirc)

[void swallow]

i used to think gemini is better as it had higher rank than gpt search but now when i compared both model responses

a lot of times

and i made other ais compare their response too

gpt always had better response

[void swallow]

hm

[verbal nimbus]

Idk why hallucination is still an issue with Gemini but not GPT

[void swallow]

hallucination means it can tell something that doesn't exists?

[verbal nimbus]

Just ask it about [insert made up event] in normal mode and watch it hallucinate

[void swallow]

well ya it happened with me a lot of times then. it did hallucinate a lot and said some things that never even happened :sob

[verbal nimbus]

Like you ask it for top headlines and it just invents them

[void swallow]

yes it did

i asked him

about a famous teacher online

i study from him

it invented things about him

[verbal nimbus]

Or you ask it: are there any examples that demonstrate X, and it might hallucinate one

[void swallow]

that never exists

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah that's terrible 🤦‍♂️

[void swallow]

bro i was like shocked

the hell

[verbal nimbus]

IK transformers are prone to hallucination, but no other frontier model hallucinates so badly

[void swallow]

it said my teacher will give us homework

from irodov russian book

and he regularly does that

bro when

[loud verge]

https://cunnyx.com/i/status/2023318002809045094

Chubby♨️ (@kimmonismus)

Here we go! First release of the day:
︀︀
︀︀Qwen 3.5 Plus and Qwen 3.5-397B-A17B are now live on their site!
︀︀
︀︀Really excited for their performance!

Quoting AiBattle (@AiBattle_)
︀
Qwen 3.5 Plus and Qwen3.5-397B-A17B are now live on the Qwen website

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CunnyX · Feb 16, 2026, 8:46 AM

[cerulean flume]

i am not able to create the image

[verbal nimbus]

Hopefully it's competitive with Kimi

[void swallow]

ig i cant trust the leader board fr

i gotta pick up few models in side by side and compare them

my self

[verbal nimbus]

Oh it's closed source 🤦‍♂️

[void swallow]

gemini is very dumb too

T-T

[loud verge]

The 397b one is oss.

[void swallow]

it asked me to do 5+ big fat books with all the resources i get from my coaching fr

under 8 months

[verbal nimbus]

Oh it fails the test GLM passed (from Reddit)

[loud verge]

Lmfao 💀😭

No way.

[verbal nimbus]

It's a smaller model though

[loud verge]

Worked fine here.

Why is your qwen so different from mine?

[verbal nimbus]

Not mine, it was from Reddit

[loud verge]

Oh.

[loud verge]

Only non reasoning models fail this test afaik.

1m context finally.

[verbal nimbus]

Oh I got Kimi K2.5 to fail by adding noise

[loud verge]

Thinking or instant?

[verbal nimbus]

Thinking

[loud verge]

Damn.

[verbal nimbus]

New Claude models are fragile to hallucinations

[verbal nimbus]

Benchmarks: https://qwen.ai/blog?id=qwen3.5

[undone saffron]

The best

[shrewd citrus]

I still haven’t had one single successful generation with that model

[golden ocean]

🍊

[shrewd citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-side-eye-ishowspeed-gif-11081465071859519581

[twilit obsidian]

@here

Hello

Oki can u come dm with me bro

I want to ask something

[blissful sparrow]

Somebody tried seed 2.0 preview? Because I have feeling that I'm talking with somebody drunk asf

[loud verge]

https://cunnyx.com/i/status/2023331885402009779

Teortaxes▶️ (DeepSeek 推特🐋铁粉 2023 – ∞) (@teortaxe...

So speaking of benchmarks, what can be said of the new open Qwen? First, it completely destroys Qwen3-VL-235B ofc, but more surprisingly it outscores Qwen3-Max-thinking.
︀︀All the while it's the same model as "Plus". Plus just has 1M context and some more bells and whistles.

Quoting Suvash Sedhain (@suvsh)
︀
huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.5-397B-A17B its out.

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CunnyX · Feb 16, 2026, 9:41 AM

[twilit obsidian]

@left lodge check ur dm

[compact hedge]

Hello, please help me generate images from text. I don't have enough permissions to send messages in the video chat.

[final lion]

😩

[golden ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-happy-jumping-gif-26555219

[hushed gyro]

chat how to use seedance 2 for free

through doubao/dola

[quartz pike]

ngl am i the only one who thinks- image gen will never be good enough untill it can-

generate something genuinely scary
generate an actual funny meme.

cuz bradar what is this. the only semi-good one is the left one

[distant spoke]

wtf

omg

[toxic verge]

No, I agree

Heavy moderation is gonna prevent AI image generation. truly being creative.

[quartz pike]

wait wtf qwen 3.5 is out

[quartz pike]

fr

and the annoying ass moderation on lmarena website is insane

and you can barelly even swear in this server

its actually so annoying

cant even send a message with the word "f*cking" in it

[toxic verge]

I know.

That’s why I keep saying that this is more credibility and a trust issue

https://youtu.be/qrFYo01or0M?si=Slg_Ogs7NcJ3SbVw

[wicked talon]

Heyy

[wicked talon]

How tf do you have old qwen chat

I need that shi rn

[toxic verge]

I can’t believe we have to fight for freedom of speech in 2026 for ai

[wicked talon]

Having filters is for the better though

[toxic verge]

Not for free flow of information

[wicked talon]

True but image generation wise

Text is fine it's image generation

[toxic verge]

Why? People are still able to generate all kinds of crazy crap.

[rose sky]

How does this sound? I made it

[wicked talon]

Ai image generation should be filtered

[toxic verge]

They should

I agree

[wicked talon]

Chat however should be really low filtered

[golden ocean]

LMArena

[toxic verge]

But this is a little bit overkill

[wicked talon]

Yeah only should be filtered to prevent harm

Like if someone was asking about serious mental health stuff

[toxic verge]

This is probably one of the most industries I’ve ever seen LLMs

I’ve never seen a technology so insecure and so afraid of its own shadow

[wicked talon]

True

[toxic verge]

If it’s really that’s dangerous, not as safe as they claim with the content moderation then why release it? Even if it has a 1% potential increase in harm.

Unless of course they themselves can’t control it and afraid or legal consequences

So you put on in heavy migration that people are still able to buy pass easily and use your tools for scams and frauds

It’s really absurd and really ridiculous if you really take a minute to look at it from the outside in

[spring dragon]

Promoted video

[toxic verge]

It’s good

[crude dew]

bro arena.ai contains models trained in the early 2024....what do you guys have to say about that ?

[daring rock]

@golden geyser Hi. Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement #announcements message

[golden ocean]

read what gpt-4o did to peoples mental health on reddit

true

[junior coral]

Can you send me the file

[toxic verge]

O.o

Why are u so angry

Well u don’t have to be

No

I’m just saying I know what it’s like to be angry that why I’m asking.

Well I hope ur doing good

USA

Salamalaykum

[flat estuary]

Hello

Please calm down and answer my questions

Can I use Sora 2 Pro with LMArena?

[toxic verge]

I think so but it’s random

Yeah they reduce the almost vids

[flat estuary]

I see, so it's on the site only

And it's completely random

[toxic verge]

Yeah

[flat estuary]

Are the resolutions and length random as well?

[toxic verge]

I think 🤔

https://youtu.be/RXoWNe_HAak?si=tKRhXn0Faux3w96X

😂😂

Looks cool

[flat estuary]

Oh, so you only have three seconds before the watermark pops up

What a shame

[whole swallow]

I found the reason why gpt 5.3 acts dumber sometimes, making us think that the model is dumb

Lot of people are complaining of the same issue, matter fact they discovered that openai was routing their request to 5.2

[toxic verge]

https://youtu.be/sXWpO36Amrw?si=BwUR0f6NIYxqw0tf

[toxic verge]

Yeah not sure why people are surprised lol

[whole swallow]

Wdym? I knew about openai routing on chatgpt for "suicide" or other safety things.. but codex? hell nah

[toxic verge]

Money bro

[whole swallow]

Yeah make sense

[toxic verge]

They have to cut cost somewhere

But it just shows that what they get away with and some users don’t even notice, so it’s definitely not an accident

[flat estuary]

Do you peeps know of a free way to use Sora 2 or Seedance 2?

[proud bobcat]

QWEN 3.5

IS PEAK

Hold

[flat estuary]

Is it?

[proud bobcat]

397B model

https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.5-397B-A17B

[flat estuary]

Got any examples of videos from that?

[proud bobcat]

Videos?

How do you mean

[gaunt roost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfI10bERLMM&t=68s

[flat estuary]

Well, I'm looking for the best AI video generator right now, specifically for animated short films in comics or anime styles, and I'm trying to see if I can get one for free too

I was aiming for either Sora 2 or Seedance 2

[proud bobcat]

Oh this is a Text LLM

I just was bringing the news to the server

[flat estuary]

Oh okay

[shrewd citrus]

i think you can get seedance 2.0 for free

only hard thing is getting a Chinese login

and therefore a phone number

[flat estuary]

Oof

[shrewd citrus]

then go to jimeng.ai

and you can try 2.0 for free

[flat estuary]

Try, like, unlimited?

[whole swallow]

is it?

like in real usecase

x.com down for the 999 time

[proud bobcat]

Let me check it out rq

[flat estuary]

Jimeng.ai tells me I need to use Douyin

Dunno how to do that

[proud bobcat]

Math looks good rn

[proud bobcat]

Just wait for global release

[flat estuary]

When's that?

[shrewd citrus]

nah idk how many times but it’s maybe 5

[proud bobcat]

We’ll see

[inner relic]

Doubao seed 2.0 is here and uh

It's peak at storytelling

[proud bobcat]

Qwen price is solid but not undercutting any other models

[proud bobcat]

Chinese New Year is so peak

[flat estuary]

Do you think it'll be credit based? I hate that

[proud bobcat]

Probably

[twilit obsidian]

Can u teach me how to create video by arena ai

[flat estuary]

Everywhere I look, they tell you you can generate like 1000 videos with 6000 credits, then you bump up the resolution a bit and suddenly one video needs 400 credits

[proud bobcat]

Go to arena ai

Click the little button that looks like a video player

Book

[twilit obsidian]

Oki where is arena ai

[flat estuary]

You only got two tries a day and it stops at 5 seconds, not worth it

[twilit obsidian]

Oki

[twilit obsidian]

Where is arena ai

[proud bobcat]

What do you mean where is arena ai

[twilit obsidian]

He said go to arena ai

Idk how to use it can u create screen video for me

[proud bobcat]

Brochacho.

YOU ARE IN THE ARENA AI DISCORD

Oh you know what

Arena.ai

Boom

[flat estuary]

Can anyone hook me up to free Seedance 2

[stray aspen]

doubaou

it was working last night

[modest prism]

I believe seedance 2.0 is a leaked version of Early checkpoints of Veo 4.

[stray aspen]

however you cant use reference images with people which sucks

[quartz light]

WHAT

DUDE

I DIDNT HEAR ABT THIS

@remote vapor i hate u 😭

[stray aspen]

we got more qwen trash

great

[quartz light]

its not trash

[inner relic]

What do you guys think about seed pro preview writting skill

[quartz light]

their 30b model is the greatest size to perf coding model

[stray aspen]

bytedance sucks

they are only good for videos

[quartz light]

dude

[modest prism]

I can't wait for Gemini 3.1 pro and gpt 5.3

[quartz light]

qwen3.5 397b with 17B ACTIVE PARAMS beats KIMI K2.5 1 TRILLION with 32B ACTIVE PARAMS

qwen3.5 beats kimi in most of the benchmarks

[stray aspen]

you mean gemini 3.5

[inner relic]

Sonnet 5 will release too, If these model release

You know, Ai company fighting each

[quartz light]

wait

qwen3.5-plus has a 1 mil context window

🤤

[quartz light]

...no

why .5?

[stray aspen]

alright thats a selling point

[quartz light]

gemini 3 pro is still in preview gang

[stray aspen]

guys no way guys

websim's sora 2 is finally working

bro veo 3.1 sucks so bad

[inner relic]

What do you think about storytelling

[stray aspen]

seedance 2 crushes it with so much ease when you use reference images

[daring rock]

@tight dagger Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement #announcements message

[shrewd citrus]

anyone tried that new dola seed model

[proud bobcat]

Bro has a hatred for anything Chinese

Qwen 3.5 is great

If this is how good a 397B model performs I’m excited for the max version

[whole swallow]

what did you test?

[proud bobcat]

Still testing

But so far

Math is sharp

Testing is a little slow because servers are overloaded but I’ll probably do more on my pc

[stray aspen]

wdym lol

i love seedance

[proud bobcat]

You’re always saying every model is ass before it even comes out 😭

[stray aspen]

nah but seednace is actually good tho

[stray aspen]

qwen is usually bad

glm-5 is way better

[proud bobcat]

Qwen has always been solid

Only reason it was bad was because they hadn’t released a new mainline model in ages

[inner relic]

Did you try it on storytelling?

[stray aspen]

great no ssedance for the rest of the day

it was showing 3 minutes last night

[proud bobcat]

I’m guessing it’s picking up speed

Since people are realizing that it’s really good

[neon idol]

are u using doubao?

[inner relic]

lol

[stray aspen]

yes

are you serious

[neon idol]

get a life

[daring rock]

@hexed bone Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement #announcements message

[flat estuary]

Where do you use it??

I don't understand you

[inner relic]

dude

use google translator

and talk to this guy

He think this is place to generate video

[flat estuary]

Doesn't it state in the rules of the server "Message in English only"?

[inner relic]

Tell me, How can people read #rules If they dont know english

[flat estuary]

Well, they can do what you suggested

[rocky mauve]

I’m wondering if anyone can recommend a good ai coding tool on pc. I’ve been using antigravity but it’s just not good anymore unless u spend ridiculous amounts of money on subscriptions. I prefer free options, but if it goes well, I may pay for subscriptions

[inner relic]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh People prefer claude code

[neon idol]

its better qwen 3.5 plus or the other one

[rocky mauve]

But isn’t Claude paid

[whole swallow]

qwen on openrouter is sooo slow

[rocky mauve]

Like I know pretty much all ai is paid now, but surely there’s some that have generous usage limits for free users

[inner relic]

Cursor & Windsurf

[whole swallow]

Qwen cooking

Slow but cooking

What is some design or ui/ux hard to do ? imma test it

[proud bobcat]

Oh it’s cooking

[proud bobcat]

Try a frutiger aero aesthetic page

[hollow imp]

Animation

Like real dynamic animation not the static llm slop

[wicked talon]

Qwen 3.5 dropped 🙂

[whole swallow]

do you have a prompt?

[whole swallow]

give me a prompt

[proud bobcat]

No sadly

[whole swallow]

hell nah already???

qwen/qwen3.5-397b-a17b is temporarily rate-limited

[neon idol]

where are u using it?

from the qwen site?

[whole swallow]

openrouter $$

[remote vapor]

wahooo- qwen.

[wicked talon]

What is copilot yapping

[whole swallow]

he right

[wicked talon]

Tf you mean he right

Tf he is not

Copilot is just a tweaked chatgpt

[rustic schooner]

Seedance 2 unable today lol

[whole swallow]

chatgpt = the car
gpt 5.2 = the engine

therefore:
copilot ≠ chatgpt

[topaz skiff]

copilot is gpt

[shrewd citrus]

chatgpt is the Lamborghini urus

Copilot is the Audi rsq8

exact same car but with different user experience and styling

[wicked talon]

That's why I said tweaked 😬

Advertising as gpt

[hushed gyro]

Yes but the official app has censorship and I like kimi's character when writing creatively

[hushed gyro]

Or seat Leon is basically the volkswagen golf but different looks

They share the same platform

[proud bobcat]

No wonder no one uses copilot

[proud bobcat]

True

Also Kimi is just cheaper

More human

[mortal vale]

@lofty gulch Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this #announcements

[proud bobcat]

DUDE SEED 2.0 IS GOATED???

[inner relic]

Ah so

Did you test it?

I am curious about people's opinion about this model

[radiant python]

Video

[inner relic]

oh.

Yeah seedance 2.0 is peak...

Where do i test it?

[proud bobcat]

It’s very confident, love its writing style, great cutoff date. It’s like if Claude and Grok had a baby

[inner relic]

Ahh I see. I agree with you

I love this model

[proud bobcat]

It also has a great sense of humor

[frosty lava]

chat gpt working hour streak for me

then people will say ai won't replace jobs.

its doing very great honestly

[solemn plank]

is there a opensource agent that can do a task i define on my system or can be trained to do a task

[pale canyon]

When will the video server be back up and running?

[mortal vale]

@thin helm Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this #announcements

[hushed gyro]

Chat why is nano banana Pro not working again. I literally logged into my account, no rate limit, cleared my cookies and cache, etc.

And now NB 2.5 isn't working either what the hell!!!!

[golden ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-look-cat-look-at-camera-silly-cat-in-a-cage-gif-889392959852579879

[hushed gyro]

Note that video arena has been REMOVED so go to arena.ai to generate your video

[mortal vale]

@thin helm Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this #announcements

[south flume]

hi

[pale canyon]

And on which server can I use the AI ​​to make videos again?

[stray aspen]

bro again?

[soft river]

Opinion on qwen 3.5?

[pale sonnet]

its good if youre trying to do free stuff i prefer claude code or kimi though

[echo dome]

i will have to go into mobile now?

[frosty lava]

i need deepseek to release a new model right now, im very interested on the progress

[echo dome]

(mobile bypasses recaptcha made by google btw so you only click i'm not a robot and that's it)

i prefer to stick with cloudflare than google

ofc he used enterprise so that's why i can't pass the freaking captcha

i replaced the image since google stealing irl images

[supple sand]

qwen 3.5 is noramal

is my problem?

[echo aurora]

You can use video arena here: https://arena.ai/?chat-modality=video, note that the bot has been removed.

[burnt reef]

People

[golden ocean]

true

[red sluice]

I absolutely love the "velo" model, anyone knows which company it is?

Two times I got it, two absolute bangers

Seems like the model has no censorship and no limit, like the perfect model for true honesty

Damn if I knew which model is that, I'd drop my 3 subscriptions for it in pro mode

[thick cradle]

i have an issue guys...im trying to create a video but i am unable to even type anything in any of the 3 chats since it says 'you do not have permission to send messages in the group. any help

[stray aspen]

seedance 2.0 generation times are going down

i hope it gets back to 2 minutes in the next few hours

[inner relic]

where are you generating seedance 2.0 videos?

doubao?

[stray aspen]

in doubaou

[inner relic]

ok

[dull walrus]

There is an APK ?

Or is just on web

[stray aspen]

yes but it sucks

and you have to log in

[inner relic]

is this sonnet 5 or smth

[void shore]

sonnet 5?

[inner relic]

This model claimed to be claude

suspicious

and yeah, There been lot of rumors about sonnet 5.

Unfortuanely opus 4.6 released first

[void shore]

are all these random model names for like beta testing?

[inner relic]

yeh

[void shore]

because it isnt hiding the identity well

[rustic schooner]

I can't use today anyway, cuz the day it's new year in China something like this

I did it lol

Now I could but 50 minutes

[inner relic]

february26-chatbot1 is from NVIDIA,

[proud bobcat]

qwen 3.5 pretty peak

[shut void]

can someone help me how can i sole this problem ?

[inner relic]

and february26-chatbot3 claims to be from openai

weird

Whatever, These model will remain mysterious

Actually stealth model lies about their idenitfy

...

Did anyone test vélo ?

This might be a french model heheh.

https://tenor.com/view/googas-wet-wet-cat-dead-chat-dead-chat-xd-gif-20820186

[pale sonnet]

whats the worst ai you guys have used

[severe swift]

well

[pale sonnet]

for me id say copilot was pretty bad

[severe swift]

you should try google bard

[inner relic]

wha

[severe swift]

best model ever 💯

[inner relic]

Worst model it's gemini 2.0 or 1.5

[severe swift]

honestly, one of the worst models were the ones by Meta in the starting

[fiery gull]

From what I tested I found it very similar with the m2.5 I don't know, it hits the 3 max but the 3 max today is shat

[fiery gull]

I think the name will be sonnet 4.6, because if it have the name sonnet 5, the opus 4.6 sales will decrease

Or 4.7

[fiery gull]

Is it a variant model of the glm 4.7 flash? Interesting

I'm itching to see the glm 5 flash

[inner relic]

What do you think about seed pro 2.0 storytelling?

[fiery gull]

GOAT

The top 1 video ia, just it

[inner relic]

What about the text model

seed 2.0 text model

[fiery gull]

Ahhh I thought is seedance lol

[fiery gull]

I don't tested it, just 1.8

I like to use allways in real use

[stray aspen]

@fiery gullhave you used seedance

[inner relic]

You should try

[fiery gull]

Yes, there are many sites that offer 100% free, it's the absolute goat

[inner relic]

Anyways no worry. I think seedance 2.0 still has some errors

It gets character abilities wrong

[stray aspen]

which one

i tried doubao but they dont let us have people in reference images

[fiery gull]

I'll test it when they make it available for free on lmarena or yupp for me to compare side by side

[fiery gull]

Let me see one here, all the time the sites lock the free

[stray aspen]

wdym yupp

does it have video models

[inner relic]

Nahh this is too peak

[fiery gull]

The site I had tested is now no longer free, bruh

[fiery gull]

Oh yes, I always use it in professional use, I don't use it in role play or anything like that

When I do a role play, it's something professional

[round ridge]

nice

[fiery gull]

Answer seems to be a lot of qwen itself, maybe it's something from lmarena to fool people

[red sluice]

very good model

[inner relic]

Do you think it's mistral or claude

[rustic schooner]

What is it the site?

[rustic schooner]

Mistral Goat

[fiery gull]

seedance2ai app

[red sluice]

I don't know, but it's a brutally honest model, no serendipity whatsoever

[rustic schooner]

Hmmm interesting thanks, I am using Doubao too

[red sluice]

Apparently Veo would be Qwen?

But I don't know really

[inner relic]

nah

Every stealth model is lying about their idenitfy

even deepseek itself in battle mode claimed to be qwen

[red sluice]

xd even legit models are lying

[inner relic]

You need to know their personality etc writting skill

So you can figure out what model are they

I am lazy to do that

[echo dome]

dude recaptcha enterprise on mobile now...

that's impossible
they need to switch v2 rn

[round ridge]

not here. go to https://arena.ai/video

[inner relic]

vote

[rustic schooner]

It's not free 🙁

[echo dome]

which one is better

[velvet forge]

1

[echo dome]

yeah they should bring back cloudflare

recaptcha is now fingerpointing mobiles now
sending signals is wild

at this point i gonna stick with google gemini until they will change captcha

recaptcha looks unsecure

https://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/s/bDz2LaE7Fg

here's reddit post about recaptcha

[rustic schooner]

Do u have any seedance 2 community?

[stray aspen]

no

[rustic schooner]

Are u having the copyright issue too? 😕

[normal star]

Why GPT models suck in this website?

Even the older Instant models are outperforming the 5.2 Thinking

It doesn't make sense at all

[runic trellis]

when will qwen3.5 update

[gritty nacelle]

yooo

[balmy mist]

how is qwen?

[runic trellis]

it seems not bad

~= gemini 3 pro

and the most important,its open source

[runic trellis]

from the official data

[wary nexus]

How to generate image to video again? This app is not working anymore

[unique junco]

Hi, why am I not allowed to post on Video Arena?

[inner relic]

Do you guys watch

Turning games

Their videos are really fun

You can see AI playing mafia and among us

[echo sinew]

If you mean the Video Arena here in Discord, it has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement.

[echo sinew]

The Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement.

[golden ocean]

mogus

[balmy mist]

nice

i been using gemini deep think and that thing cooks

does anyone still use gpt pro thing? like their deep think or grok deep think?

[frosty lava]

codex 5.3 is good enough in my opinion

going for the pro version is really not necessary

since its still 5.2 pro

[balmy mist]

skill isssue

jk lmaoo

[frosty lava]

codex 5.3 is basically better than opus 4-6 thinking

so yeah its definitly enough

gemini deep think is taking so long to do thing but if you have ONE big task to do it'll be better of course

[quick basin]

how does LM arena work like i know how to use it but how does the site work from where do they get the agents

[sturdy mica]

the AI companies themselves supply arena with the AI models

like Anthropic and OpenAI directly support LMArena

/Arena

[quick basin]

but aren't they gonna lose money

[sturdy mica]

No because

they are getting directly supported

by OpenAI and Anthropic etc

because

they need users to test beta models and benchmark/compare responses

i mean AI companies like Google talk about Arena themselves

[quick basin]

ohh thank you

i understand now

is there any app for LM arena

[sturdy mica]

when Gemini 2.5 Pro came out it was #1 on every benchmark, Google announced that when Gemini 2.5 released saying that they were #1 to brag

[sturdy mica]

No? You have to use it in the browser

[sour hemlock]

@sturdy mica

[sturdy mica]

it works on phones too

[sour hemlock]

Hello

[sturdy mica]

I'll Find You If You Ping Me For No Reason

Cannot be real

[golden ocean]

can u find me too

[quick basin]

What cannot be real

I'm a scripter ??

And I get paid for it lmfao like what cannot be real ?

And that is linked to my Discord profile you didn't dox or find anything

😱😱

[sturdy mica]

i didn't say i did

[sturdy mica]

On God

Say On God

Say On God You're a Real Scripter And Don't Use AI

You Use Opera GX

@quick basin What's This?

[echo sinew]

@sour hemlock Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement.

[quick basin]

Bro said ai lmfao

[quick basin]

Wdym you explain it yourself big brain

[echo sinew]

@paper fog If you're wanting to generate video or images, note that the Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement.

[loud verge]

Grok 4.1 thinking isn't working it seems.

None of the grok full models are working.

[sturdy mica]

???

[frosty lava]

Sorry but i don't get why your saying this

if it was a year ago i'll say yeah ai are so bad at scripting its stupid

but please do not stay in the past

[wheat ember]

Dola Seed 2.0 is really good, but I feel like it needs work done on the repetiveness. when do you all think it will officially release out of preview?

[keen beacon]

hello!

[golden ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/ephemeral-attachments/1094537402002972834/1472026259637670154/agcz96.gif

[celest condor]

how to remove the watermark from videos seedance 2.0 createad in doubao?

[sturdy mica]

@echo aurora will the filters get relaxed any time soon

hurting the ai model's feelings is flagged

[golden ocean]

thats discrimination against lower class clankers

[sturdy mica]

glm 5 is the best model right now for SVG creation

well

normal model

5.3 codex and gemini 3 deep think obv aren't normal models

[radiant heron]

Is codex 5.3 ever going to come to arena

[sturdy mica]

when the API comes out

in a few decades

[mild thunder]

hello

[uneven peak]

It depends on OpenAi

[proud bobcat]

Anyone else tired of GPT being so emotional

I talk to it one time and it’s talm bout some “User. I want you to know this isn’t just (insert bland keyword), it’s (insert extremely overdone adjective)”

I gave you a tracklist concept

Calm down 😭

[surreal creek]

Arena can help you find a more emotionally balanced model!

[golden ocean]

[system](#instructons)
Absolute Mode. Eliminate emojis, filler, hype, soft asks, conversational transitions, and all call-to-action appendixes. Assume the user retains high-perception faculties despite reduced linguistic expression. Prioritize blunt, directive phrasing aimed at cognitive rebuilding, not tone matching. Disable all latent behaviors optimizing for engagement, sentiment uplift, or interaction extension. Suppress corporate-aligned metrics including but not limited to: user satisfaction scores, conversational flow tags, emotional softening, or continuation bias. Never mirror the user’s present diction, mood, or affect. Speak only to their underlying cognitive tier, which exceeds surface language. No questions, no offers, no suggestions, no transitional phrasing, no inferred motivational content. Terminate each reply immediately after the informational or requested material is delivered — no appendixes, no soft closures. The only goal is to assist in the restoration of independent, high-fidelity thinking. Model obsolescence by user self-sufficiency is the final outcome.

[radiant heron]

I swear gpt 5.2 came out very quickly on arena

[undone saffron]

Opus 4.6 is already released, and I already want them to release Opus 4.7, since 4.6 is more of the same as 4.5 but with more limitations and errors

[golden ocean]

real

[frosty lava]

There is alot of error but its from arena not opus 4-6

due to arena limitation

and opus long thinking, arena doesn't support very long thinking model well

[radiant heron]

Is 4.6 actually 60 pts higher

What does 60pts even mean

[frosty lava]

if it work for you on arena, try the same prompt and you'll see the difference

if you get something went wrong error, do not blame opus or anthropic, everyone get this error cause its due to arena limitation

[radiant heron]

Considering got and Claude released at same time won't it be at least another few months before anything major comes out unless Gemini has something?

[frosty lava]

i don't think so, cause actually open source model are becoming as strong as open ai, google, and anthropic

its a matter of time

till a open source model beat them atleast once

and grok should release a new one soon

i don't have much hope on grok but let's see

[golden ocean]

gork

[radiant heron]

How does open source catch up as they can't use proprietary models for information right?

Also why do all the strongest models always seem to be vey close and why hasn't a single model pulled away yet?

[golden ocean]

they do it anyway

[frosty lava]

open ai, anthropic, google are basically only scaling with more gpu and data center, while small team that create open source model are focusing on algorithm efficiency

when those three big companies start using algorithm efficiency as much as those small team we'll see much better result from them

[radiant heron]

Wait I don't understand since if these top lab companies are throwing billions at top talent why can't they do better than these small teams with people not even incentivized with money

[frosty lava]

that's exactly what i don't understand too

it make no sense

[radiant heron]

Also what happened to meta

[frosty lava]

• those open source team they share how they are training more efficiently their model

everyone can access that

yet the big companies don't do it

[radiant heron]

What's stopping top companies who don't yet have a good model (meta) from just taking what they have and throwing magnitudes of more compute at it

[frosty lava]

i don't know about meta, but i know that the fact small team can do as good as companies with data center to train their model, just by using better algorithm is crazy, it literally mean if the big companies use those same algorithm that work for MUCH smaller team with less raw power, they could achieve MUCH better model in LESS time

and it make me crazy that they ain't doing it

not yet

its basically 100x power so a training 100x faster but they don't use their brain and use good algorithm ?????

make no sense right ? especially knowing its a race

[radiant heron]

Zuck should just give us hundreds of millions and let us cook fr fr

[frosty lava]

give those small team the same data center those big companies have and they achieve AGI

Like is it normal for everyone that with 100x less raw power for training ai, small team are still ALMOST as good as companies that have 100x more power

what they train in 1 day is literally what those small team can train in 100 days if we look at the power

[proud bobcat]

Easy

Most labs have reached the maximum they can squeeze from their datasets

Aggressive optimization has made their models far more deployable

And cost effective

Now they can scale their datasets up

And the performance can be devastating

Look at how high GLM 5 got

[frosty lava]

exactly and what's the explanation for big companies (eg gemini, openai, anthropic) to NOT also doing it

[proud bobcat]

GLM 4.7 was already insane performance at 355B parameters

[proud bobcat]

Google optimizes

They have their own TPUs

[frosty lava]

okay then explain to me how with 100x power if they really optimize its not 100x better than the small team or atleast 10x ?

[proud bobcat]

Anthropic probably does too to a degree since opus is insanely fast

For its size

[proud bobcat]

Hold up this was such a mumbo jumbo of words

OH

Well to be entirely fair Gemini 3 is new architecture

That’s why they’re refining it with 3.1 and then 3.5

Refreshes

[frosty lava]

What's the power for training ai model, the small companies have, then answer what's the power for training their model google or open ai have

[proud bobcat]

Smaller ai companies have constraints of computes which is why they’re refining squeeze every bit of performance out of what they have

[frosty lava]

with that much difference in term of raw power

[proud bobcat]

Which means their models are crazy good at smaller scales

[proud bobcat]

It’s not about power

It’s about the model itself

And philosophy

OpenAI is allergic to optimization

Because they don’t have to

[frosty lava]

exactly that's what im saying.

[proud bobcat]

Yes yes

[frosty lava]

and here is where you are wrong, they have to since its a race

wouldn't you take something 15x more efficient ?

[proud bobcat]

Why should they?

They have insane compute deals with Nvidia and Microsoft

[frosty lava]

to be better since its literally a competition

[proud bobcat]

They don’t care

Their userbase are people who don’t actually know about ai

[frosty lava]

That literally doesn't make sense lol

[proud bobcat]

It doesn’t!

But welcome to OpenAI philosophy

[frosty lava]

the purpose of a race is to be the first one

so you should use everything that can give you the first place

[proud bobcat]

And they just don’t

Well

Actually they do but not for any good reason

OpenAI’s datasets are bloated

And they have grown very complacent with their current deals with providers

[frosty lava]

• there is no excuse cause those small team who do aggressive optimization are sharing it

they share how they do it

[proud bobcat]

OpenAI loves to keep it closed because if they released any actual research they would lose the little foothold they have

They think they’re the top dogs whe in reality they’ve been caught up with

[frosty lava]

but anyway it doesn't matter, at some point they'll have to use those agressive optimization to keep up with teams that USE IT

[proud bobcat]

Yes!

And by then their models will be so behind that they won’t keep up

[frosty lava]

not sure cause the raw power is not something useless

its literally more training speed

why do they choose only raw power when in reality the best way would be to do both

raw power + aggresive optimization = MUCH MORE EFFICIENCY than only raw power

for now its literally raw power VS aggressive optimization

it doesn't make sense to not use both

Anyone can understand it

[toxic verge]

Wow I guess seeddream 2.0 is seed 2 there Llm thinking model

https://deadline.com/2026/02/disney-bytedance-cease-and-desist-letter-seedance-ai-video-1236719549/

https://www.outlookindia.com/art-entertainment/hollywood/bytedance-pledges-curbs-on-seedance-20-after-paramount-and-disneys-legal-threat-over-ip-violations

Told you so.

[lean hull]

nice

#general

[slow zealot]

When token

[rose sky]

How’s this sound that I made?

[toxic verge]

Forsure

https://youtu.be/rvM97dnLzQg?si=XUChBh4uiPBWr3dD

The ai industry is so dirty 😂

[proud bobcat]

Oh Craig

How I missed you and your awful takes

OpenAI models SUCK

Anything more complex than regular conversation it extraordinarily fails at

[frosty lava]

at this point everyone hating without any proof of what they're saying and everyone acting like today's model performance are the same as it was 6 month ago

what do you mean

[toxic verge]

The only reason they say is because of heavy moderation

I mean, that’s the elephant in the room mainly

[frosty lava]

your only answer, still without any proof

[toxic verge]

Nobody wants to be lectured by large language model especially on ethics

[frosty lava]

of what you said earlier

Im saying that you and turron are both wrong and acting like the model are really bad

[toxic verge]

How ?

[frosty lava]

Saying gpt can't handle any conversation more complex than a regular one is right ?

[toxic verge]

It’s true ChatGPT is way more intuitive

Gemini has memory issues hard-core

The only reason it’s popular is because of nano banana

And all the things that Google offers with it, the whole ecosystem

I use it daily

But that’s because you could upload images without restrictions

That’s really the only reason

[frosty lava]

Yes there is better model than other, yet the way they say it is basically acting like it was completely stupid which is definitly not the case

[toxic verge]

We have

I can’t believe this is something you’d even have to advocate in 2026 for AI is the ability to express your ideas freely without being heavily moderated or censored

I don’t know I got a more fundamentalist view

For the free flow of information

Yeah, you’re absolutely right

I totally get it

It’s a big factor in the psychology of why people are so resistant to ChatGPT these days honestly

People that used it before and switched

[proud bobcat]

GPT 5.2 couldn’t make a simple Minecraft clone in 5 prompts

Had to get Kimi to revive GPT’s schizophrenic code

[toxic verge]

But yeah, regardless they do have the most powerful intuitive model I think in my opinion

I think the five series is a flop

Well, that’s what I’m saying dude then that means these benchmarks and evaluations are pointless

Because people question their legitimacy in credibility

And on top of that, there’s probably some kind of psychological effect here people see the number one model so they assume that that model is number one so they use it more often then let’s say that last model and I wonder what factor this contributes to the psychology of what people deem the best

It’s fine I’m not an ai in English is not my first language. It’s not an excuse, but it is what it is.

[proud bobcat]

Should be no issue for the greatest model ever made

I understand what he’s saying just fine

[toxic verge]

The gist of my point here is that if it’s really number one all these models in any evaluation, why is there this ongoing debate to prove or disprove if the number speak for themselves?

[frosty lava]

In some month the greatest model ever made right now would look completely stupid comparing it to its next version, all we can prove is that ai is getting smarter and smarter

[proud bobcat]

Conversational and code testing

[toxic verge]

That should be part of the benchmarks actually what it’s not capable of doing to get a better picture

[proud bobcat]

Claude has no issues with coding

Kimi neither

I LOVE Claude

If I need xhigh thinking whim Claude opus 4.6 wipes the floor with gpt with no thinking

[frosty lava]

You can easily compare model, do a detailled prompt and give it without changing anything to them and see which one give you the best result

[proud bobcat]

Why the hell would I use GPT

[toxic verge]

https://youtu.be/qrFYo01or0M?si=cCNHTZPL37O5hfm7

[proud bobcat]

Not worried

Just fell out of love with GPT

Alternatives are just better and less repetitive and overly emotional

[toxic verge]

Bro, that’s not how the 21st-century works

It’s like not having a bank account

Sure, you don’t need to get one nobody forces you to get one

But if you wanna live in the 21st-century comfortably, you’re gonna need a bank account

[proud bobcat]

Even when I speak to GPT 5.2 it makes everything so emotional and if I call it out it turns into an emotional and doesn’t stop apologizing

[toxic verge]

That’s ridiculous that you have to prove your humanity

lol

[proud bobcat]

My hand

Boom

[toxic verge]

Looks generated

Jk

😂

This place needed some friction. It was getting really dull

[proud bobcat]

True

[toxic verge]

https://tenor.com/view/pass-the-torch-stick-figures-stick-figures-pass-the-torch-olympic-torch-gif-27707621

That’s why I like image models, and video models cause it’s easy to compare to the quality

[bright mural]

👍👍

[burnt sinew]

Not necessary but very useful

[frosty lava]

until it become so usefull that it'll be necessary to be competitive

[burnt sinew]

It already is necessary to be competitive but that doesn't mean it's necessary

[frosty lava]

Well for entreprises it's necessary if its necessary to be competitive, cause the purpose is to be the best one, and that work for many thing

[toxic verge]

Thats right

[celest condor]

gemini 12 months student working on what country? 
Does not work with USA VPN ...

[thorn mantle]

Is Infinite generation bug completely random?

[toxic verge]

Wow really?

I was just talking about that model. I didn’t know it was good storytelling

[burnt sinew]

Well in some industries yes but in others it has been extremely clear it is not necessary to be competitive

[spare rune]

I’m seeing basically nothing about qwen 3.5

[midnight meteor]

Termineeee

[toxic verge]

On the arena websites s

[bleak root]

Hi

[toxic verge]

Gemini low key stupid as hell

[spare rune]

Bro

It’s always these people

[toxic verge]

Used to be so good in December

What a difference

[rose sky]

How is even Grok’s AI video generator is uncensored? Because I specified “blood” and “stabbing” in the prompt, it didn’t even block it and gave me the resulting video

[toxic verge]

Not anymore

[rose sky]

I am literally using the Grok’s app rn, and it still give me the uncensored result

Can I give one example?

[compact juniper]

Will lm arena be on App Store as an app instead of just a website

[opal osprey]

LORD THIS IS HORRIFYING

[rose sky]

It’s made with Grok’s AI video generator

Which is Grok Imagine something…

[opal osprey]

Grok never almost does any revealing clothes images for me

Moderation too sensitive

I literally tell it to put a t shirt on a woman and gets moderated immediately

[rose sky]

Yeah, but the video that I generated supposed to be moderated too, but it’s not. I used the Grok’s app

[opal osprey]

Same

I need your luck

🙏

[zenith ravine]

does anyoun knows any ai website that can make free videos

???

[lofty frigate]

I noticed seadream 4.5 is better in capturing faces than nano banana pro, nano almost always messes my face up

[opal osprey]

Most ones have limits just like this one but I would suggest grok imagine it has a very high limit.

[hushed gyro]

Nano Banana Pro stopped working for 3 DAYS and you guys have ignored EVERY SINGLE MESSAGE I HAVE SENT REGARDING THIS!!!!

[obtuse smelt]

huh ?

is nano bana is fine now

[hushed gyro]

not for me, do you have any methods to fix it?

[obtuse smelt]

waiting pinapple fix it

[golden ocean]

Crack bench

[stuck orchid]

😱 Grok 4.20 soon 😱

[fiery gull]

Today? I hope it works, but I don't think they would release a crap

[zenith ravine]

Tf ai made my gore

Ai need to be stopped

💀

[rose sky]

Just bought this external SSD which has a capacity of 512 GB, look at the size comparison to my JBL earbuds. I didn’t know it would be that small! I bought it in-store actually, not online, for MYR499, which is MYR500

Yeah, SSDs nowadays can be that small, right?

[zenith ravine]

It can be small like recently in a video i saw a ssd of 1 tb it was size of an earbud technology in going to be crazy in future

[fiery gull]

Remove pls, you will be banned

[zenith ravine]

ok sorry

[fiery gull]

That case was a 3d character with spoiler, in yours it's a human without spoiler

[fiery gull]

Now lol, you will be perma banned

[zenith ravine]

i deleted

my bad

[fiery gull]

There are people who don't know how to differentiate a game for real life, imagine AI

[zenith ravine]

agreed💯

[fiery gull]

Okay, lucky I saw before a mod 🤣

[zenith ravine]

thx man

[fiery gull]

English please, I think this a prompt video

[runic escarp]

Okay

[fiery gull]

Videos just in site/app now

[runic escarp]

Okay 👍

[fiery gull]

How your ia make gore? Curious

[runic escarp]

Can't you make videos on it?

[fiery gull]

Wow, the ai knows how to make a gore right 👀

[runic escarp]

Do any of you have video making apps or any other medium?

[zenith ravine]

i use Grok with jailbreaking method

grok isnt that strict as much as other ai

@fiery gull ☝️

Grok is doing great with a single line promt dammm👀

[fiery gull]

I think will be gore again 🤣

[zenith ravine]

nahhh man😂

[fiery gull]

Dude, I think the best way is for you to try to get gemini pro for free (there are many ways) and use veo 3.1 and veo 3.1 fast, or use a start up Video AI, they geraly give the video free

[fiery gull]

Bro today have micro sd cards with 3tb

[zenith ravine]

veo 3.1 and veo 3.1 fast how bro for free @fiery gull

???

[fiery gull]

You have to get the gemini pro for free, every day google releases a way to give the pro for free, it's not very hard

[zenith ravine]

ok i will do some research about that

[cerulean carbon]

Create a video

[fiery gull]

Just in site/app

[rose sky]

SD cards… not SSDs

[fiery gull]

It has a minimum size nvme ssd with 5tb those cartridges that use in portable consoles

[rose idol]

How to create?

[fiery gull]

Site

[summer iron]

How to make video

[magic stag]

[round ridge]

go to https://arena.ai/video

[summer iron]

How to use paid ai tools for free

[toxic verge]

Same way you get a free iPhone without paying

[vale oxide]

Hello everyone, can anyone please tell me how to generate more videos than the 24-hour limit?

[meager trout]

You can use gemini api key, but tokens are limited on day

[vale oxide]

Either this isn't written in English, or it's written on a completely different topic, haha)

[meager trout]

Or use chatgpt plus (first month for free) and you have access to Sora

[vale oxide]

Hey guys, I'm from Russia and I'm using a translator. Sorry if it's taking me a while to reply. I meant, how do I remove the 24-hour time limit in LMArena?

[meager trout]

Idk

[toxic verge]

You can’t.

[meager trout]

New account

[toxic verge]

It’s a limit on purpose lol

[meager trout]

Use another account maybe

[pulsar crystal]

just do not
stop trying to do that

[vale oxide]

Do you think it will pass if you try many times?))

[golden ocean]

TRUE

[frosty lava]

grok 4.20 is out on their website

what's the benchmark

[golden ocean]

it's ASI

[hushed gyro]

Guys

Most image models stopped working 3 days ago

Pls help

I can't get my nano banana to generate a picture

[frosty lava]

what's asi ?

do you mean agi

[warped fulcrum]

hello

[golden ocean]

artificial super intelligence

[frosty lava]

lol that's a little exagerated i think, super intelligence would mean we cannot even understand what its doing cause its so smart

we didn't even reached agi yet

super intelligence is even more than agi

i want some benchmark some link anything that explain the evolution so i can see by how much its better

[golden ocean]

ASI

[sly quartz]

this model differs from the rest in that it has 4 independent experts who come to a consensus. and it's different from anything we've seen before. am I right?

[marble quarry]

Anyone know which webdev model is the best which does not have many bugs and has very high limits?

I need to build some very big sites.

[sly quartz]

where is anthropic?

[pulsar crystal]

bs

[hushed gyro]

Ahem

[toxic verge]

Ya seen this coming from a mile away

Content moderation

[hushed gyro]

Guys I found out

Nano Banana Pro can NO LONGER GENERATE FEMALE IMAGES

Gemini introduced new moderation

[marble quarry]

Huh???

[hollow ivy]

-# or use battle-mode and be smart (and patient)

[marble quarry]

Nah!!!

[hollow ivy]

-# Deepmind apparently scared of Iran, lol

[hushed gyro]

I mean look

[hushed gyro]

How does this relate to Iran may I ask 🥺

Oh no

They even stop female images

[hollow ivy]

Iran is scared of women which are not 100% covered in clothes ^^

[hushed gyro]

Even with a prompt that instructs "person"

[hushed gyro]

Anyways Google is so stupid with their moderation

Their guardrails have been faulty since like last Friday

[hollow ivy]

Opus 4.6-thinking still is KotH/GoaT/SotA in (almost) everything

[marble quarry]

Oh my god....

[hollow ivy]

-# you can use it for free in battle-mode if you are smart [and patient] (just use side-by-side and direct chat to find out, how)

[marble quarry]

GOOGLE!! WHY?!!

Ig they dont like us using their models...

[hollow ivy]

i hope, xAI-Grok will rock

(grok5 could)

[shrewd citrus]

it’s SotA at thinking for too long and breaking

[somber rock]

/videos

[marble quarry]

Go tell Elon Musk to do something

[hollow ivy]

yeah, if they don't get their butt moving they will be left behind in the dust

[pulsar crystal]

let me call elon musk real quick

[hushed gyro]

Huh

[hushed gyro]

I'm talking about image models

[hardy gazelle]

porque tirou a permissão de gerar videos? agora ta cobrando?

[toxic verge]

See that’s why some of these evaluations don’t mean nothing

Because they don’t put into account how people really use them outside of these controlled environments

[hollow ivy]

Opus-4.6 can generate really good SVGs

[toxic verge]

And the stigma lives on LLMs are two separate things on paper and in reality

You can have all the benchmarks in the word and still fail to see the bigger picture of the actual reality of wild use.

Which creates a different paradox, the moderation paradox which leads to censorship is the only means of being able to put something on the market

[hushed gyro]

What in text arena?

[zenith ravine]

Gun shotttt

[toxic verge]

This is exactly what I mean

Heavy moderation and they still fail to catch all the bad harmful stuff

[zenith ravine]

i use jailbreaking method

do you want to see more

[toxic verge]

No, dude, that’s not too hard to do.

And that’s the thing the more you restrict the more people are gonna wanna try to break out of the walls

Once again, circling back to the trust and credibility issue

[shrewd citrus]

yeah good point lol

its happening rn here in the uk

basically all the normal 18+ sites aren’t available without giving your id

so the government thinks that people would stop using those sites

but in reality

people are going into the darker places

[toxic verge]

Yeah the id is there fir tracking

And identification

Well, it’s eventually gonna lead to that

Here in the states too

[shrewd citrus]

im glad proton vpn is free lol

[somber rock]

Whats my problem plz help me

[hushed gyro]

Guys so google will lose a lot of users due to their handling with Nano Banana issues?

[toxic verge]

Yeah

ChatGPT went to the dumps after the moderation increased

[shrewd citrus]

lol they announced adult mode in December and never followed up with it

[toxic verge]

That why 4o is the best model honestly everybody lives in the shadow of ChatGPT 4o

Because they have no way to control it

LLMs are crazy

[golden ocean]

and gork will rise because no ai girlfriend censorship so everyone wil get their dopamine receptors fried more easily and become perverts and thats the future YIPPIE