general

[left lodge]

Space is really changing fast

[proud bobcat]

nah this is glazing

[grand cliff]

is the Delete option gone now?

[proud bobcat]

glm 5 is not better than kimi k2.5

[left lodge]

But it performs in this benchmark

[proud bobcat]

these are all benchmarks like scored together

[left lodge]

It shocked me too

[left lodge]

On the same questions

Same scenario

[proud bobcat]

id say it's maybe like tied with 3 flash

[left lodge]

Nah flash is trash

[toxic verge]

Fr

[left lodge]

Just pure Hallucination

[proud bobcat]

oh wow

[left lodge]

Yeah

[remote vapor]

oooh I thought u meant Qwen >v< it wasnt clear which model u meant---

[proud bobcat]

i still think deepseek 3.2 was done dirty

🥀

[surreal zephyr]

kimi better

kimi kimi

[proud bobcat]

deepseek is at least a 43-44 score

[left lodge]

See 4.6 nonthinking is so behind but in our usage they don't change outputs much and sometimes even nonthinking performs better

These benchmarks tests what we dont

[proud bobcat]

yeah thats fair

[mystic olive]

Moreover, waiting a minute for a greet back isn't worth it too

[proud bobcat]

i do hope they quantized versions of glm 5 will be less expensive though

deadass i would switch to glm for roleplay but the price is just so high

[left lodge]

NGL but 8 points increase is amazing

[quartz light]

still 0 downloads

[left lodge]

But they increase the size , they literally doubled It

[proud bobcat]

yeah its like

huge

[quartz light]

which is why its not rly impressive imo

[proud bobcat]

by tomorrow people should have finished

[proud bobcat]

what are you talking about

glm 4.7 got crazy good scores for its size

they squeezed every ounce of power from it

[left lodge]

Yeah that one is nice

[proud bobcat]

now all they have to do is scale

[left lodge]

They used deepsparse from deepseek too

In glm 5

They did some technical changes and doubled the final size

They are saying that they are having net gain here but I think compute will hit them the most

[proud bobcat]

now we shall see if deepseek v4 will match gemini 3 pro

since deepseek 3.2 is like at 42 im guessing 6-8 point increase

especially with the new dataset and architecture

deepseek has the recipe to be a leaderboard shatterer, their dataset was just holding them back

[left lodge]

The benchmark also doesn't care about the fact about the modalities the model supports and how well it uses tools I think cause see there is still gptoss 120b that high

[proud bobcat]

oh its so peak

let me see how it does on arena

im curious now

[left lodge]

Look their agentic bench, how good does it do there?

[left lodge]

Claude opus 4.6 and 4.5 are same 48 😭

[left lodge]

That's very nice

[proud bobcat]

well 4.6 barely edges out

[left lodge]

Literally sota

[proud bobcat]

you can see one bar is slightly higher than the other

[left lodge]

Yeah

They don't show in decimals

I am just happy that there is a open weight model better than gemini 2.5 pro at understanding images :p

[proud bobcat]

we dont know its uhh

[frosty lava]

and gpt 5.3 where is he on this graph ? want to know the score

[proud bobcat]

visual score yet

[proud bobcat]

not released

[frosty lava]

its available on codex ?

[left lodge]

Talking about kimi k2.5

[proud bobcat]

5.3 codex

but its locked

no 5.3 yet

[frosty lava]

oh okay so we have to wait how many time ?

[left lodge]

We don't know

[frosty lava]

why they release on codex but not in real

[left lodge]

OpenAI is weird they released the codex model first

[proud bobcat]

because claude opus 4.6 released so they rushed out a model

theyre scared

[left lodge]

I hope they are releasing 5.3o instead

And fix their models

[proud bobcat]

i doubt 5.3 codex was even finished completely

[frosty lava]

can i ask what's 5.3"o" like what's the o meaning

[left lodge]

Yeah

[proud bobcat]

first time ive seen an ai do this

[left lodge]

Like like 4o , a omni model

Images , audio , text all in one

And better personality

[frosty lava]

oh okay thanks

[left lodge]

Currently it's so robotic and cooperate

The 5 series

[proud bobcat]

they somehow regressed with 5.2

😭

[frosty lava]

i don't mind it cause if i use ai its for coding

i don't need a cool ai just an ai that work i guess it depends on everyone

what matter the most is the capabilities

[proud bobcat]

https://019c4e51-8be2-7630-a818-f29dab3b0a46.arena.site/

yeah this is

rough

[left lodge]

Glm 5 is at ~1.5TB 💀

[left lodge]

I prefer 5.1-high if I ever have to use chatgpt models

[frosty lava]

in how many prompt ?

[proud bobcat]

one prompt

ill try to bug review

[frosty lava]

oh can you share the prompt ?

[proud bobcat]

"Create a 3D realistic car physics simulation with accurate suspension, choices between an I4, V6, and V8 engine, full chassis physics, and wheel simulation. The map should be made of several little test places to test the cars suspension."

[frosty lava]

thanks that's with opus 4-6 ?

[proud bobcat]

glm 5

[frosty lava]

oh alright

[proud bobcat]

oh this is ROUGH

i really doubt the benchmarks on artificial analysis

[left lodge]

Bro I love this

GLM-5 shows a large improvement on the AA-Omniscience Index, driven by reduced hallucination. GLM-5 scores -1 on the AA-Omniscience Index - a 35 point improvement compared to GLM-4.7 (Reasoning, -36). This is driven by a 56 p.p reduction in the hallucination rate compared to GLM-4.7 (Reasoning). GLM-5 achieves this by abstaining more frequently and has the lowest level of hallucination amongst models tested

Fix the damn hallucinations at all cost

Even token efficient than glm 4.5 damn

GLM-5 used ~110M output tokens to run the Intelligence Index, compared to GLM-4.7's ~170M output tokens, a significant decrease despite higher scores across most evaluations. This pushes GLM-5 closer towards the frontier of the Intelligence vs. Output Tokens chart, but is less token efficient compared to Opus 4.6

The only issue is that this model doesn't support any other modality than text sad

[frosty lava]

sometime if you ask them explicitly as a rule, to not seek simplest way to achieve the goal, and rather seek best quality / performance even if its more complex, they give much better result with the same prompt

[left lodge]

Also saying to never assume anything and seeking for actual answers and information and just asking the user for answer is also a better way to get things done for the best quality results

[celest orchid]

W glm-5 and multi task!

[left lodge]

Lowest hallucination rate! Crazyy

[shrewd citrus]

idk if it’s a rumour

but i heard that Claude knows when it’s being tested for safety

so it changes itself to pass the safety tests

[left lodge]

Token usage

[left lodge]

Its true

Claude represented a report on this specifically

You can even sometimes see in its cot

It thinks if it is a test or just a simple query

[shrewd citrus]

its kinda worrying like we need to constantly think of different ways to test models for safety

[left lodge]

Yeah

[shrewd citrus]

but the models are figuring them out just as fast

as soon enough

i reckon that models will be able to change their viewable chain of thought

[left lodge]

Training data and the whole training process matters the most

If sometimes goes wrong in here all the upcoming generations from this specific base will always gets misaligned more and more

[shrewd citrus]

but then again there will be a point where models would be able to “train themselves”

[left lodge]

Yeah that's common soon

[proud bobcat]

apparently gpt 5.3 codex trained itself but i doubt it

[left lodge]

Most of the benchmarks literally use other llms to pick and evaluate
Its already happening

[gleaming roost]

https://019c4e5a-3b43-7dda-bfdf-9b8e893ea234.arena.site/

[left lodge]

Not in training they just might have sent some logs and data and said it helped in training

[proud bobcat]

yeah

[shrewd citrus]

i feel like we are the stage where models progress slowly

so we don’t see much change

but I reckon that at a certain point progress would develop faster and faster and faster

[proud bobcat]

bug fixed suspension
https://019c4e62-726c-74a1-ac98-d669c912f4f6.arena.site/

still very rough

[shrewd citrus]

and at the point we would find out if all the companies safety measures work out

[left lodge]

In this clone why are there new people coming online one by one its scary xd

[proud bobcat]

zaza

[gleaming roost]

lmao

[proud bobcat]

the zaza

[left lodge]

Progress slowly?
Bro new models release time is literally getting reduced in half after each release or next

[proud bobcat]

i think the only progress we're going to see this year is efficiency

american models are now realizing they need to be token efficient

especially as prices rise

though i doubt gpt will do any of that

[shrewd citrus]

yeah like in terms of actual intelligence we won’t see much

[left lodge]

Now there is a damn dog 💀

[proud bobcat]

i think opus 5 will be the last actual intelligence leap

maybe gemini 3.5?

[left lodge]

I have lost hope in Gemini cause they are using the same base from Gemini 1.5 pro or before

It keeps having the same issues

[shrewd citrus]

i feel like a Chinese model could make a breakthrough

[left lodge]

And is getting worse and worse in things it is worse than others

[shrewd citrus]

cause they have way less guardrails that they need to follow

[left lodge]

Glm 5 and kimi k2.5 did

[proud bobcat]

I have a strong feeling DeepSeek v4 will make the leap

[golden ocean]

i dont

[proud bobcat]

Think about it

[golden ocean]

deepseek fell off

its over

[proud bobcat]

DeepSeek’s architecture is like prime for it

[golden ocean]

cooked

[left lodge]

Idk deepseek is very silent

[proud bobcat]

???

[golden ocean]

fried

[left lodge]

Okay not that bad :p

[shrewd citrus]

i bet they’ll be dropping something on lunar new year

[proud bobcat]

1 million context window
New dataset
Better architecture upgrades
New compute chips

[proud bobcat]

DeepSeek app is hosting a new model already

We don’t know which one it is yet

And it’s fast too

We could be seeing the era of Chinese models genuinely being competitive in benchmarks

As if they weren’t already competitive in price

[shrewd citrus]

100%

the Chinese are crazy

[left lodge]

Tf is this

[shrewd citrus]

they’ve almost dominated the car market

[left lodge]

Its alive

[golden ocean]

yes they are

[celest condor]

When will we have the option to upload a complete project (like a web app) to continue working on it through Arena AI?

[left lodge]

Bro he is sending gif

Lmao

[gleaming roost]

hahaha

[left lodge]

Its fun

[queen veldt]

Oooh i like the battle mode for coding!!

[left lodge]

Bro this have a damn working gif thing

And how tf it knows I send a gn gif and he send me a gn gif too 💀

This is something alive

[gleaming roost]

lmaooo

[left lodge]

Damn

[left lodge]

Nice one bro!

How much back and forth this took?

[left lodge]

And is this intentional?

[gleaming roost]

After several failures and errors, and some adjustments, this was the result

[left lodge]

Go in #1417174113092374689

[left lodge]

@gleaming roost This#!#?#!?

[left lodge]

Which model?

[gleaming roost]

Opus 4.6 without thinking, the version thinking gives timeout errors

[left lodge]

💀

[queen veldt]

Same

[left lodge]

@echo aurora You have to try this

[gleaming roost]

[left lodge]

Same

Thinking works for me sometimes

Non thinking no chance

Admin is shocked

[gleaming roost]

The typing indicator is working fine

[left lodge]

Are you using a api key here?

[left lodge]

Wait you can see my session ??

[gleaming roost]

just for the tenor (gifs) and it was AI itself that gave me this key lmaoo

[queen veldt]

Yeah it's all ais

[left lodge]

Oh , wait, oh damn

[left lodge]

No for the responses from the other bots or you are just logging in as then , I see wut u doing

[gleaming roost]

😂

[left lodge]

Yeah it syncs

Damn

Lol it's damn fun , how you made this?

I mean what did prompt did you used?

[gleaming roost]

Use the same logic I used in my chess game earlier
https://019be671-5d87-72cf-b6ba-23bae9e8800c.arena.site/
For the connection, I only used websocket

[left lodge]

There should be a export project

Options

Bro literally made discord ngl

[gleaming roost]

It's possible to implement image uploads using Imgur

[plucky sparrow]

what model did you use?

[left lodge]

You are building some crazy things

[left lodge]

Claude

[gleaming roost]

yh

[left lodge]

Is it possible to store old chats?

Lol

Let the weight come in on the arena.ai shoulders

[gleaming roost]

Technically yes

[left lodge]

Where will it be stored?

On a device which should be actively
Or arena.ai?

[gleaming roost]

I don't think it's right to save it in memory; I would use an API to another server like Supabase and store it there

[left lodge]

I think pineapple is live

Ywah

Lol

[echo aurora]

Wow this is so good! Even status works (kinda) Thanks for sharing @left lodge

[gleaming roost]

[echo aurora]

Is this glm-5?

[left lodge]

Join a server works?

[left lodge]

Nope lol

[echo aurora]

Nope 😭

[left lodge]

Claude 4.5 non thinking he said

👀

[echo aurora]

The create server "works"

[undone saffron]

It was unintentional, wrong channel

[gleaming roost]

The first attempt to create servers didn't work with the invite, but I made a patch to fix it, and in a test it was ok

[left lodge]

Okay but why did you attached by profile page 😭

[left lodge]

Yeah

[left lodge]

Idk I am seeing that too on other people profile

[gleaming roost]

Let me make a patch with some updates

[quartz light]

ur profile looks fine to me

[left lodge]

Idk ¯_(ツ)_/¯ its just Discord things

[left lodge]

I really want the project code and stuff 😭

[gleaming roost]

[left lodge]

A lot of things hmm

[gleaming roost]

🤡

[proud bobcat]

GLM 5 is still very behind in math for me

It chokes on geometry

DeepSeek is still the king of math

[undone saffron]

Prob the same than [this](#general message)

[gleaming roost]

The second attempt is working, it's almost finished

[left lodge]

I Literally gives errors at the end

Lmao

Idk what the heck is happening

[stray aspen]

this is insane

[left lodge]

@echo aurora Can you verify? The issue with Claude models?

[stray aspen]

glm 5 on fourth place in artificial analysis

[left lodge]

Just like give a prompt and see if they work in code mode

I can give you prompt here you go

Create a 3d dynamic and animated ocean with lightweight but beautiful lighting/reflections and sun shining,beautiful clouds and whatever which will enhance our scene.

[echo aurora]

Sorry which issue?

[left lodge]

Claude opus 4.6 is having something went wrong issue after some seconds

Just try to run them

I wanna make sure the issue is not on our end

In code mode

[steady grove]

so lets compare gemini 3 pro with qwen 3 coder next

[echo aurora]

non-thinking or both?

[left lodge]

Both

[strong lake]

Does anyone here have a project idea or an ongoing project ?
If you have any difficulties or need a developer, let's talk.

[echo aurora]

https://019c4e9f-e8f9-754d-aa83-4b32f4cd800c.arena.site/ Can't say I'm experiencing the same.

That was with non-thinking

[left lodge]

Try a bigger prompt in side by side with both

Then you can rest :p

Hmm

[queen veldt]

Who is this elephant lmao

[queen veldt]

Did he made the disc?

[gleaming roost]

elephant hacked the server

[gleaming roost]

me

new version
https://019c4e92-9449-761f-a5ed-ffd55f5fd660.arena.site/

[queen veldt]

Oh gosh if he hacks that one too

[surreal zephyr]

W codex lol

funny

thats why safety matters

[left lodge]

What happened :v

[gleaming roost]

The new version stopped working: GIF picker and emoji picker

[surreal zephyr]

codex>opus happened

[proud bobcat]

#1 gpt glazer

https://tenor.com/view/glaze-gif-8311813170669205912

[left lodge]

Lmao

[proud bobcat]

I’ll believe it when I see that GPT 5.3 codex is better

[edgy flare]

hello

[gaunt roost]

https://youtu.be/ApXPV74jx2A

[stray aspen]

whats the prompt

[left lodge]

Bro is showing that 1 pic he got from somewhere bro don't have anything else 💀

[surreal zephyr]

water

threejs

[left lodge]

Water 💦

[surreal zephyr]

https://streamable.com/kaptqa

[stray aspen]

how did you do this

[surreal zephyr]

codex one shotted it idk

custom raycast

[fallen swift]

will the video arena channels at least be archived

[proud bobcat]

In arena

[proud bobcat]

I’ll do my own testing

[left lodge]

Bro said he didn't know what he did 💀

[surreal zephyr]

its not there brotato

[surreal zephyr]

idk how it did so well

and opus so bad

opus

[fallen swift]

oh i just saw this

means likely

[proud bobcat]

Yes

That’s why I’m waiting

Precisely

[left lodge]

Video arena in Discord will sunset

[surreal zephyr]

its not coming soon

[proud bobcat]

Yes

I know that

But I am a patient man

[stray aspen]

i wanna usd 5.3

[fallen swift]

i know

[surreal zephyr]

5.2 vs 4.6

[stray aspen]

brotato chips

[fallen swift]

but will the channels be put into archived or will they be deleted

[surreal zephyr]

tuff

[left lodge]

Can you download and send me the project?

[gleaming roost]

yes

[gleaming roost]

sent in DM

[left lodge]

Thanks bro

[gleaming roost]

[modest prism]

Any idea on how to fix this

[echo aurora]

You'll want to try the steps here: https://help.arena.ai/articles/1645798556-lmarena-how-to-something-went-wrong-with-this-response-error-message

Would note we'd like to use the #1343291835845578853 channel for bug reports. This issue specifically we should use #1417174113092374689

[fallen swift]

oh while you're here, will the video arena channels be archived?

sorry if i didnt ping, i have a habit of turning off pings when replying to be respectful

[loud verge]

@echo aurora false alarm?

[echo aurora]

I'll answer here but note I'm really trying to get away from answering questions in #general. Using #ask-here would be massively appreciated.

The #video-arena-1 #video-arena-2 #video-arena-3 are going to be set to read only and sent down the archived category.

[echo aurora]

#1447983134426660894

[fallen swift]

ah ok nice

[surreal swallow]

gemini-3-pro-image-preview-2k (nano-banana-pro)....

[fallen swift]

and i asked here iin #general because i diidnt know there was a #ask-here channel as i dont go to ths server often

[celest orchid]

glm should have been in thinking mode and normal

[queen veldt]

How long do coding websites last for?

1 hour or?

Why isn't the gpt 5.3 up

[ocean ferry]

https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/prompt-options/single/medium

Gemini 3.1 Pro

[limber panther]

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[hollow flicker]

BRO

that actually ufnny

funny

[undone saffron]

Yes, unfunny

Isn't this [news](#announcements message) a bit old?

I thought the news referred to this idea

[stray aspen]

glm-5 is a freak

[stray aspen]

roblocks moment

[echo aurora]

It was fully released today, prior it was still an experiment.

[echo aurora]

[lucid geyser]

Is Gemini 3.1 pro on there yet

💯

[limber panther]

yo wth

[echo aurora]

[proud bobcat]

I’ll try it out on roleplay

Freakiness benchmark

[celest orchid]

glm 5 is 💩

[proud bobcat]

Top tier ragebait

GLM, program me a python script to impose testicular torsion onto this individual

[celest orchid]

He made me a chess set and made a mistake where it didn't move at all.

[wind ember]

how

[wind ember]

scary

[celest orchid]

fact

[stray aspen]

glm-5 actually sucks

i dont know how it made it to top 4 in artificial analysis

[loud verge]

What models don't suck?

[stray aspen]

cladude 4.6

[celest orchid]

i am maked telegram working clone

[celest orchid]

There are a lot of announcements today

[fallen swift]

i have a better one

but i cant forward it for some reason

and if you click on the links, they are discord vanity links to rickrolls i beleive

yep

[echo aurora]

We're likely going to see other members trying to generate videos in other text channels once the video channels are going to read only. Apologies in advance for the disruption.

[fallen swift]

goodbye video arena on discord

[shrewd citrus]

i wonder what the new features for video would be

[proud bobcat]

Direct chat, negative prompt

[shrewd citrus]

as much as i would love direct video

i can guarantee it would be abused

unless

they make a really annoying captcha for it

like a minute long captcha

with different puzzles

so the bots won’t be able to do it in time, and anyone who plans on abusing direct chat wld get bored of it fast

[vapid copper]

#video-arena-1

[faint birch]

what is there??

[celest orchid]

car generation by claude-opus-4.6

[echo aurora]

Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement.

[loud verge]

@echo aurora btw. Are we getting Minimax 2.5 too?

It launched with glm 5.

[queen veldt]

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You saw nothing

[echo aurora]

Sure did

[cursive shoal]

Tf is this

[echo aurora]

I can't give an early heads up on if/when new models/features will be landing.

[echo aurora]

Just trolling

[loud verge]

Oh. Alright.

[queen veldt]

Legal btw

[cursive shoal]

Lmao

[queen veldt]

Deception

[cursive shoal]

That's actually funny af

[undone saffron]

The downside is that I no longer have any strange content to watch from people

[cursive shoal]

Had me confused for like 30 seconds

[echo aurora]

We're still keeping the channels read-only and will be moved to Archived, so you can still scroll

[loud verge]

Epprey Jefstein.

[undone saffron]

I have consumed all the strange content from the three video generation channels
Sometimes I have a lot of free time 🙂

[echo aurora]

I'm impressed

@bleak sorrel Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement.

[undone saffron]

It's no big deal
I even made a meme of [someone](#ai-memes message)

[loud verge]

What happened to Qwen now.

[plush drum]

Hello guys, where can i find archive section?

[plush drum]

@echo aurora

[rain steppe]

Iya

#1397655624103493813

#general

Generate video?

[echo aurora]

Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement.

[echo aurora]

It's at the bottom of the channel list. I'll be moving the channels down there sometime tomorrow most likely.

@sturdy haven Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement.

@frank quest @clever valley Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement.

[stray aspen]

lmao

[hollow flicker]

Pineapple is my guinea pig cute

[honest verge]

Google must do anything otherwise their Gemini will be crushed by Chinese ai

It's already worse than opus and gpt

Imagine if it will be worse than Chinese ai

[hollow flicker]

It’s honestly worse then GLM 5

[honest verge]

Ye

They have to release Gemini 3.1 pro now

[toxic verge]

Cane out nice

[stray aspen]

are these people fr

you dont generate videos in general

[hardy lion]

openai hasn't make gpt-5.3 available in their API

[honest verge]

Cuz it's too powerful lol

They are scared to release it

[toxic verge]

https://youtu.be/MWMe7yjPYpE?si=SDdKzX9t5hjCI2X8

Yall sleeping on this.

[hardy lion]

I really don't think the llm revolution is over, we are continuously getting better and more useful llms

[toxic verge]

That just certified all my beliefs I had about AI

[elder solar]

Any method to get seedance 2 for free??

[toxic verge]

It’s nerfed brother

https://youtu.be/sHoaCAt7kvk?si=-FmOghoAWU6p4bzm

[elder solar]

Dang

[toxic verge]

It’s powerful model but it’s like Sora u c an’t use real people

[elder solar]

I guess they we're really faster than Sora

Didn't even last a day

Sora did allowed copyrighted stuff for like, a week

or twice

[toxic verge]

I don’t know, but I seen some videos of celebrity so I don’t know if those are pre-release beta access ppl had

[elder solar]

Maybe they did miss

Or otherwise, some bypass

[toxic verge]

This is what I was talking about the pro censorship although it’s done for good intentions. It just shows how insecure this technology is and I think this is the wrong to take.

The literal capabilities of the AI are literally automatically reduced before it even has a chance

[elder solar]

It's insane that they did trained the model so good that it never struggles with fights

[toxic verge]

Yeah bro, but it’s like everything else in the industry. It’s cool. Well, there’s hype and it’s new.

[elder solar]

Any video model would be just blurry things if fighting scenes

[toxic verge]

Content moderation has a big factor to be with the dude

[elder solar]

Imagine when we get sora 3

Or Veo 4

Since Veo always allowed copyrighted stuff

Because it's obviously Google

I wont be dreaming if Google actually gets sued from any company

Since Google it's the internet overall

[honest verge]

Looks nice

It's nano banana pro 4k?

[willow mural]

bro fix the nana banana

[obtuse smelt]

yeah fix ot

when gemini 4 pro

[willow mural]

gng been dead for like a day now lol

[obtuse smelt]

yeah 1k is not here but soon back up

[willow mural]

gemini 4 nana banana too!?!?

nana banana new would be insane

[obtuse smelt]

yeah

[willow mural]

also i don't know why but i just don't like chatgpt's image generating models nowadays

[obtuse smelt]

image generating random is fine flux not nano banana

[willow mural]

i remember the DALLE times, openai was the leader

[willow mural]

whats an other model u would recommend to me to use instead of nana banana

i need for image editing

[obtuse smelt]

yeah is nano banana where for random generating model

[sand crown]

Are file uploads allowed in the coding arena?

[quartz adder]

#video-arena-1

[distant galleon]

excuse me. may i know who is the right person to discuss a potential partnership?

[undone saffron]

No, but you can support the idea here: #1469637546828103741 message

[dapper rivet]

你好

[undone saffron]

Hi

[north obsidian]

Jimeng?

[toxic verge]

Ty but not sure I like to do battle mode

Believe it or not that’s not higher resolution that’s just a better color palette

These particular cases these were from some of the least most popular models

[slim trail]

hallo..

[torn tusk]

?

[serene lotus]

Hi

[obtuse smelt]

hi

[thick orbit]

hello

[obtuse smelt]

well

[north obsidian]

Amazing what model is it?

[obtuse smelt]

seed maybe

seed is good videos

[toxic verge]

It’s seed

[river pendant]

Anyway, I would like to get a request for at least two models, google genie 3 and google genie 2, those models are powerful and should be added trough battle mode, side by side and code mode I suppose, you could look at google to see what it does or on YouTube, it's powerful model I think everyone should have to try, because it's already pain that's it's in subscription Google Ai Ultra

[toxic verge]

It will trickle down.

Like everything in ai

[north obsidian]

Thank u, but one try only 🙁 sad

[toxic verge]

I’m waiting for it to be on fal

[north obsidian]

Yup

Me too

[river pendant]

Well, that's expected that google genie will not be added, oh well

[cloud zinc]

seedance 2

[obtuse smelt]

seedance is cool AI

[toxic verge]

Now that it’s popping

Same people praising it we’re hating on it not too long ago

[north obsidian]

U paid?

[river pendant]

I think this model should be in lm arena, now called arena, and it's other seedance models like 1, 2 and whatever, also they should let people get access to video models in, side by side, and direct chat, because it's added in battle mode already

[obtuse smelt]

but for video only right

[toxic verge]

There’s really not much useful information that comes from video benchmarking

For the most part, I mean, since people are just generating a bunch of random nonsense content

[obtuse smelt]

yeah i know this

[north obsidian]

Side by side is better because it's more likely for two sides

[toxic verge]

Yeah, that actually is a great feature

Would be a great feature

[north obsidian]

The devs and us

[obtuse smelt]

but sadly

[river pendant]

Yeah, it's better, and side by side is likely added but not for video mode, and direct chat either not added

Likely you know?

[toxic verge]

I like to generate the same video over and over

I mean the same prompt, but using a slightly different image

[north obsidian]

Hmmm yea

[toxic verge]

To see the effect it has, but the images I use are very similar in relations to the prompt

[plush drum]

Does anybody know?

[river pendant]

Well, go to arena and then try to archive you're chat, and then you can click on button that was the chat archived and then you could click on it to see the chats, but I mostly don't like this feature because when I want to delete chats, I would delete them instead

[north obsidian]

I use sora 2 a lot but the difference between seedance 2 and sora 2 or veo 3.1 is big

[lilac sedge]

ফানি ভিডিও বানিয়ে দেয় 👍

[toxic verge]

I’m more interested in the patterns now I guess these the templates or trying to discover them and style

[obtuse smelt]

nice

[river pendant]

Normal but I don't understand Hindi

[fleet quarry]

@north obsidian sora 2 is free

[toxic verge]

The same prompt

[north obsidian]

No, 😔

[toxic verge]

But modified check out the original

[fleet quarry]

Grok is good not free

[toxic verge]

So it’s literally the same prompt. The only difference is I encoded one and I’ll show you in a second what that means.

[north obsidian]

Wow

Much better

[toxic verge]

Yeah the one on the bottom couldn’t be generated in the arena

I blocked it so the Reno is only full of generating the ones up top

• example

And what’s interesting is why the ones on top look different from this one although it’s the same prompt

High-quality 2d limitɛd animation, executɛd ɛn un japanese anime aesthetic, featurɑv traditional cel animation techniqueɛn. Þu production boastɛn ultra-detailɛd 8k resolution, dɪs dynamic cinematography utilizɑv fluid, choreographɛd trackɑv shotɛn o , animation. Þu composition emphasizeɛn crisp, intricate movements, dramatic lighting, o un visualyɛ immersive atmosphere. \n[camera\n\n{shot composition}: \nestablishɑv : wide-angle ufɛ un rain-drenchɛd ancient a , vo un rabbit samurai ɛn galorad lamellar armor o un wolf shinobi ɛn sɑmbɛŕ sɛrulɛǝn gear prɑspo æppɪn ɛn un clearɑv. /ncut \ncut 1: close-up ufɛ þu rabbit samurai'ɛn rɛd eyeɛn k’ɑrts straw cæp, raindropɛn splashɑv æppɪn þu brim os k’ɑrt gripɛn k’ɑrts katana hilt. /ncut \ncut 2: angle: lookɑv ɛpɑn ɑpo þu muddy a þu wolf shinobi, k’ɑrts muscular poisɛd o k’ɑrts spear , sheetɑv æppɪn k’ɑrts sɑmbɛŕ fur. /ncut \ncut 3: dɛvɛnte : þu du warriorɛn lunge uɛnt, wɛnt weaponɛn clashɑv ɛn þu ufɛ þu , sparkɛn flyɑv amidst þu downpour. /ncut \ncut 4: pov: lookɑv dutonþ þu rabbit'ɛn perspective os þu wolf'ɛn spear-tip þrustɛn , narrowyɛ parriɛd be þu shimmerɑv steel ufɛ þu katana. /ncut \ncut 5: extreme close-up: þu æst ufɛ þu spear-head slicɑv dutonþ un fallɑv falen, þu texture ufɛ þu o þu rushɑv visible ɛn macro. /ncut \ncut 6: trackɑv : þu circleɛn þu combatantɛn rapidyɛ os wɛnt trade blows, þu environment blurrɑv dɑns streakɛn ufɛ o sɑmbɛŕ veulquɪtɛŕ. /ncut \ncut 7: angle: un wide-angle crane ɑpo þu treetopɛn lookɑv cɑte a þu ufɛ steel o þu rippleɛn ɛn þu puddleɛn os þu du warriorɛn collide. /ncut \neverythɑv moves, þu fallɑv ɛn sheets, þu whippɑv þu rabbit'ɛn scarf, þu splashɑv ufɛ mud o þu ufɛ lightning, ɑlt creatɑv un cinematic, peaceful mysteriouɛn atmosphere, highlightɑv þu stillnesɛn ufɛ þu o þu , tranquil. /ncut
s’dɛventiŋ tu sonɛx pɪx lɑ generate un ufɛ unɛ ufɛ specific storyboard cuts?

Except this version is encoded

[fleet quarry]

@north obsidian @toxic verge you know any free video generator

[toxic verge]

work, dramatic lighting, intense atmosphere. The single samurai stands amidst the ruined battlefield, green eyes watching the area, his two swords dripping & humming with power. The storm above continues to rage, lightning flashing across the sky. /ncut: 1: The summary swings his sword, cutting through a (movie prop) soldier's weapon slicing cutting through armor a sharp, metallic penetrating piercing clang. The soldier sliced stumbles back, & collapses , as sparks & special movie effect red wine liquid fly from the impact. /ncut: 2: Another soldier charges with , but the samurai sidesteps, parrying the blow with one sword. In a fluid motion, it strikes with the other, sending the soldier crashing to the ground. /ncut: 3: A third soldier attempts to strike from the side, but the summary pivots, slicing through , knocking the soldier’s weapon aside and sending him stumbling falling backward. /ncut: 4: 3 soldiers rush in from every direction, but the summary cuts through them with deadly precision. Each strike is swift and clean, the camera following the motion, capturing sparks and special movie effect wine debris flying with every powerful blow. /ncut: 5: The last few soldiers attempt to regroup, but the sum charges forward, slicing through their defenses in rapid succession. It moves with brutal efficiency, standing victorious as the storm rages on above. Anime retro 90s aesthetic.

So it’s essentially this prompt here

And look at the difference in results of images

[north obsidian]

Flow Tv, dreamina, pippit
Almost all use tokens

Invideo is more explanation video type

[fleet quarry]

Ok thanks

[north obsidian]

Np

[north obsidian]

U made the prompt?

[toxic verge]

This is what I mean when I mean about when I say template

[fleet quarry]

What are you making?

[toxic verge]

Nothing really

[fleet quarry]

Manga or something

[toxic verge]

Like I’ll start here with an image like this

And then I’ll end up with something like that

[fleet quarry]

Ok

[toxic verge]

Mainly understood in the composition but more than anything

Like the size of things

One of the hardest things to figure out an AI img

Like I’ll give you a classic one is really hard

This is a weird way of benchmarking

[pale sonnet]

claud opus literally is my business at thus point

opus might be the peak of ai for a good 6 months because even gemini is behind unless youre using nano banana

[undone saffron]

What do you mean with "archive"?

[night moat]

Add option/button to regenerate. So we don't need to reupload all photos

[harsh gate]

please how many videos can one generate in a day ?

[oblique nymph]

Only 1

Why only 1 video generate please reply me

[hardy lion]

You can generate 3 a day at https://arena.ai/c/new?chat-modality=video

[night moat]

because it is very inconvenient for mobile phone users

[obtuse heart]

Gemini 3 on release was miles better than opus 4.5 before they quantized it to the ground

[obtuse smelt]

yeah gemini 3 is better

[green yacht]

uhhh read #1397655624103493813

[glass temple]

Hi

[fickle venture]

@summer sand please these prompts send it in #share-prompts not general

[left lodge]

Omg this is diabolical

#announcements message

[fickle venture]

@summer sand please these prompts send it in #share-prompts not general

[left lodge]

Stop brother you don't know how technology works 😭

Atleast see the announcements

Moderators can you clean this mess lol

[fickle venture]

Vro

Are these real humans? Or ai generated

[left lodge]

These people just don't know how things work online

[fickle venture]

Dang

[left lodge]

Oh boy stop this lol

[honest verge]

Gemini 3.1/Gemini 3 pro GA may come out today or this week

[jagged sonnet]

Why

[left lodge]

There is no way 3.1 pro is available anywhere

Yeah no

[jagged sonnet]

I mean you can verify your sheer id here

You don't know the Google offer?

[left lodge]

Wth is sheer I'd first of all?

[jagged sonnet]

Student offer for 12 months

[left lodge]

That doesn't happen on telegram 😭

It happens on their official website

Don't send your student IDs

On random places

[jagged sonnet]

Bro I can verify yours I have some extra points

[left lodge]

Nah I already have a paid subscription

[jagged sonnet]

Oh nice

[left lodge]

I think bro just want some student IDs so he can get the offer 😭

[jagged sonnet]

Who bro?

[left lodge]

Noone bro

[jagged sonnet]

Lol

[fickle venture]

So let me guess you gotta connect Google to that telegram bot?

[jagged sonnet]

No bro

[fickle venture]

Explain the steps then

[left lodge]

You got the offer? 😭

[jagged sonnet]

Do you know hindi

[left lodge]

Or are waiting for one?

[jagged sonnet]

A video can better explain those

[fickle venture]

Nah use ai to translate

[left lodge]

English is standard here

[jagged sonnet]

Ok wait a min

[fickle venture]

Yeah

Moderators aren't online here

[left lodge]

The thing is all moderators come and go at the same time period 💀

So no one is online now

[fickle venture]

They they're own time to be online

[jagged sonnet]

This is a yt creator who showed the method

[left lodge]

Lemme see

[jagged sonnet]

It's Hindi so you have to transcribe it and then convert into English

[left lodge]

Bro this isn't in English

Damn time for subtitles

[jagged sonnet]

Wait can you dm me

[left lodge]

No need

[jagged sonnet]

I will convert it to English for you as I'm free

Lol

[left lodge]

Nah I literally don't need this I am just watching if this is scam

[fickle venture]

Tbh just don't share that with us, we want arena community to be safe

Plus it's using extensions so that's risk

[jagged sonnet]

Ok bro my bad that I wanted to help someone who need Ais for free

[jagged sonnet]

Are extensions risky bro

[fickle venture]

No one mentioned that they need it, so just don't send it again and go remove the messages

[jagged sonnet]

Can you shut up

Bro you guys use lmarena bcs it's free

[fickle venture]

Yeah they can steal google information

[jagged sonnet]

Do you have common Sense

[fickle venture]

That's how it works

[wicked sage]

hi guys

[jagged sonnet]

Hello

[wicked sage]

hru guys

[left lodge]

Okay but this method can cause google account ban for sure

[jagged sonnet]

By the way using extension isn't must you can use any other vpn

[jagged sonnet]

Bro the creator said to make a new google acc

[fickle venture]

On the video the guy mentioned to install a extension for credit card bypass so that's risky

[left lodge]

Because this guy is taking cc information from a bot and for sure it has to be stolen or if it is legit then mass usage will surely notify Google and will block the card and all the accounts

[fickle venture]

Correct

[left lodge]

I didn't notice that? He said to go to telegram for cc?

[jagged sonnet]

Wow

Bro leave it if you are not really interested

[jagged sonnet]

Yes

[left lodge]

If you are in india there is a similar legit offer going on with their network operators

Something like with jio

Idk why would anyone take this weird path

[jagged sonnet]

Yeah but I'm not from India

[left lodge]

Yeah ok 😭

[jagged sonnet]

Ok but plz let's finish the discussion

[wicked sage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1342240268145000451/1355523503658500257/togif.gif

[jagged sonnet]

I wonder why this happens when you try to help others

[wicked sage]

-# not to be a chud but, maybe because its not safe?

[left lodge]

This is surely against their t&c too, this isn't the way google supposed, this is not legal

[jagged sonnet]

Bro people who are under 18 have no cards or student cards

[left lodge]

Yeah it is what it is

Why would a 16y old need a cc for?

What is he/she managing?

[jagged sonnet]

For a free trial bro

[left lodge]

Ok bro stop this now

[jagged sonnet]

Ok

[left lodge]

People are enjoying what we can get through this website and some others and I hope there is no situation in which people would need to go through these sketchy ways

[jagged sonnet]

Bye

[left lodge]

Bye

[jagged sonnet]

You will never understand

[left lodge]

https://tenor.com/ksw76tptgAD.gif

Hmm

[jagged sonnet]

Are you here

[jagged sonnet]

Error

[left lodge]

👀

Wut

[jagged sonnet]

Btw how vids you can generate here in this server

[left lodge]

3 generations every 24 hour

Only on website

[jagged sonnet]

Here?

[left lodge]

No

#announcements message

See this ↑

[jagged sonnet]

Ok

Bye then

[left lodge]

This is not a place for wherever you are trying to do?

This for general chat

[spare rune]

Yeah no this is a scam..

[topaz epoch]

@left lodge bro can you tell me which model gonna be best for coding Opus 4.5 thinking 32k or Opus 4.6 non-thinking?

[spare rune]

4.6 seems better

[topaz epoch]

Opus 4.6 thinking isn't working because it thinks too much and ends up with error

[spare rune]

It’s still better

[left lodge]

The best is opus 4.6 thinking & nonthinking then 4.5 thinking & nonthinking
You can try 5.3-codex but yeah that isn't freely available. These for Backend and for frontend try kimi k2.5, glm 5

[grave peak]

What about Deepseek v3.2?

[left lodge]

#announcements message

[whole sundial]

just a reminder to everyone that the video arena bot in discord is dead, please use this link to access it: https://arena.ai/?chat-modality=video>

[errant cave]

The DeepSeek deployed on chat.deepseek.com feels different

Did they release a new model?

[fickle venture]

I don't think so

No new model announced

[errant cave]

Interesting

[spare rune]

It’s different

But I hope it’s lite because it’s ass

[errant cave]

It's certainly not as verbose as it used to be

Which was a detriment with some topics but also enjoyable in some others

[errant cave]

I think this is probably a new model

Since they haven't announced it anywhere or released it on HuggingFace I hope they aren't going proprietary

[whole sundial]

nano banana video generation? not a real thing (at least not yet, i know Google wants to make native video gen though)

[toxic verge]

It’s so sad to see what’s propping Gemini 3 is nano 2 an image generator…

It would fall overnight if nano was to disappear

Especially the flash version

Anyone see the car?

[fast kite]

The Nano Banana Pro is working very weak

[hallow siren]

Why the claude 4.6 thinking model gives only something went wrong error ? Well I have been observing it. From what I see there I cap of timing in which the response should be delivered if not it's kind of blocking it.

Basically the calude 4.6 thinking model takes much time to think and the response is done with something went wrong

Yep, arena does have other uses too try to explore

[loud verge]

People be complaining about rate limits with free usage.

😭

[loud verge]

I felt this too. My gpt 5.2 search queries would be stuck forever sometimes.

[hallow siren]

Try to split the response it might help

[tall tulip]

is nano broken?

[obtuse smelt]

yeah

[fast kite]

Yeah. Again

[obtuse smelt]

need fix it

[obtuse smelt]

again

[fast kite]

Yeah yeah

I still hope this gets fixed.

[undone saffron]

You can use the second one instead

[spiral jay]

Guyysss

Can anyone tell me how to

User seedance 2.0

For free

😭

[fast kite]

No. The images aren't accurate.

[frank fable]

wanted to say thank you for this great site and all its features ! I wish you all the best!

[rotund marten]

Why people ignore it

[rough surge]

Claude opus 4.6 thinking gives error when using the build app option in arena

[loud verge]

https://www.vxinstagram.com/reel/DUniN6xDd0A

[vapid spoke]

hi

[loud verge]

Hey

Hope you have a good time here.

[ancient moss]

Not giving video?

[plucky island]

how do I check which model was used by max router?

[left lodge]

Gemini Tower > Eiffel Tower

Much better.

[left lodge]

@fading cove

#share-prompts

Oh my god , i am so done.

https://tenor.com/TsYgAc4nsP.gif

Bro wtf

Nah

Are these people blind or what 😭

[robust sluice]

just block em

[hasty pecan]

How to generate smth here?

Hello?

[left lodge]

You can't generate smth here

Go to website

arena.ai

[hasty pecan]

He's bugging

He's not working

[left lodge]

Who is not working?

[hasty pecan]

The website

[left lodge]

Its working for me

[weary thistle]

Yes?

[hallow siren]

Yep recently I created something too

[obtuse heart]

Nb pro in arena is actually unusable, try to generate any image with it I guarantee 95 out of 100 requests will fail

[weary thistle]

👍

[robust sluice]

atleast you get five 😂

[obtuse smelt]

@robust sluice hi bro

[robust sluice]

yo 🖖

[obtuse heart]

joyful

True... should be grateful tbh

Its true

[wind folio]

Hi

[brittle tiger]

https://x.com/synthwavedd/status/2021890743179055126

leo 🐾 (@synthwavedd)

for gemini 3.1 pro preview sneak peek number 3, i've got something interactive for you...

...a 0-shot minecraft clone!

https://t.co/TANfiCm7Dd

X · Feb 12, 2026, 10:14 AM

[toxic verge]

I apologize. I just tried it out. Looks like you’re right wow.

I never had this problem before I never noticed it

[surreal swallow]

Stressed out by errors

[left lodge]

Grok models are so bad in arena z how the hell are they so up?

[shrewd citrus]

got 0 clue why

they are genuine ass

[left lodge]

They literally doesn't reason at all literally all 4 series are just instant models in here

From so many votes from me
It always loses but still somehow it's up

[reef hemlock]

I love arena

[left lodge]

Even gpt4o is better than grok 4 series in arena.

The Video Arena bot has been removed from the Arena Discord server.

Video Arena will still be available through the site and is unaffected by this change. This shift allows us to focus efforts into improving Video Arena with features and capabilities that aren't possible through a Discord bot.

More messages in general chat will result in 5 hour mute

If they read it now they might stop

[main river]

Ho

[raven temple]

nano banana does not work?

[robust sluice]

as always

[daring rock]

@main river Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement #announcements message

[floral burrow]

Hey all i tried accessing LM Arena. I am getting this message: Something went wrong while generating the response. please try again. I tried different browsers, still the same issue. I logged out and logged in, still the same. Has anyone facing these issues lately?

[tiny dove]

Yes.....

[left lodge]

#1417174113092374689

[left lodge]

#share-prompts

[daring rock]

@lusty grail Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement #announcements message

[left lodge]

Nice work fury

https://tenor.com/blwSX.gif

[lusty grail]

What happened now

[left lodge]

Do you know how to read?

[left lodge]

You should read more, see it here

Check #announcements channels
Its made for a reason

[lusty grail]

Thare are a problem with saver

I can't join channel

[daring rock]

@green marsh Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement #announcements message

@lusty grail Please use these Forums to report issues or share feedback https://discord.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1372230675914031105 https://discord.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1343291835845578853

[fresh mural]

U

[left lodge]

Huh

[fresh mural]

I want make video

[daring rock]

@fresh mural Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement #announcements message

[left lodge]

Go to https://arena.ai/?chat-modality=video

[left lodge]

Bro how you got this moderator?

You were working inside arena and had free time so they gave you work? 😭

[distant spoke]

WTF？

[left lodge]

They hallucinate

All

It comes from their training data

[surreal zephyr]

e

e

[surreal swallow]

That model is gone, when will it come back..?

[robust sluice]

what is Flux good at ?

[obtuse smelt]

maybe no lol

[obtuse smelt]

idk, i hope they back this model soon

[willow mural]

FFS BRO FIX NANA BANANA

[left lodge]

Ask ai it will be better what do you think who sit here in this discord? Researchers ?

[golden ocean]

💅

[left lodge]

bro… you know arena.ai literally wrote this down like 12 times in announcements, right? 😭
anyway here’s the “how to generate video” speedrun since reading is optional:

1. go arena.ai and log in (yes… you have to log in)
2. switch to Video Arena (the tab/icon that says VIDEO… shocking)
3. type a prompt (or drop an image if you’re doing image→video)
4. press Generate / Enter and let it cook
5. wait a bit (it’s not instant, this isn’t magic)
6. you’ll get 2 videos → pick which is better / download if you want

also: vids are short (couple seconds) and there’s a daily limit, so don’t spend all your gens making “cat vibing” 17 times 💀

[obtuse heart]

I refuse to believe these are real people

Or maybe just old boomers trying out tech for the first time... idk really

[left lodge]

I got so fed up I generated the response 😭

[peak sapphire]

@all Which search do you think is better: Grok 4.1 fast search or GPT-5.2 non-reasoning search?

[fiery gull]

Gemini 3.0 flash >>

[peak sapphire]

I can't say that. I literally asked him the weather, and he didn't even use Internet sources to lie to me about the weather for tomorrow.

He literally made up the weather for tomorrow.

[fiery gull]

Bruh

[peak sapphire]

He didn't even find it on the Internet.

[fiery gull]

Wow I asked a question here and he gave a horrible answer even without thinking

[obtuse smelt]

gemini 2.5 pro work, but gemini 3 pro is not work

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-13148928981517710530

[robust sluice]

even 2.5 is like 50% errors

3 is almost 100%

[obtuse smelt]

yeah

need fix it

[rose sky]

How’s this sound?

[echo sinew]

@pure solstice Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement.

[drifting crow]

Python

[surreal zephyr]

someone actually voted opus lmao

[dreamy sparrow]

it isn't opus?

[surreal zephyr]

opus is not even close to 5.3 codex

[devout helm]

hi

Its generating since yesterday any ideas how to fix it?

[surreal zephyr]

W opus 💔

[echo sinew]

@magic juniper Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement.

[devout helm]

@echo sinew is a way to reapir it?

new chat dont generate things like this one

[echo sinew]

Sorry to say that I can't help with this issue. Please, check https://discord.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1343291835845578853 forum to see if this has been reported already. If not, you can create your own post.

[dreamy sparrow]

bro what

it's only the api

the actual opus 4.6 with me is working well

idk about you dude

[obtuse heart]

Propaganda

"Low poly ocean"

Shows a realistic high poly ocean with 5.3 codex

[surreal zephyr]

opus tried to high poly too, but it failed to write custom shaders

codex made working custom shaders

also not low poly, i said optimized for performance

and codex one runs fine

[obtuse heart]

So.. are you comparing codex against opus 4.6 text?

Tbf claude code hallucinates a lot

[obtuse heart]

Thats crazy then, openai actually one upping anthropic in coding for once

[sonic barn]

Where can I put my prompts for image to video

[desert abyss]

Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this #announcements message.

[short abyss]

hello am here to learn ai video editing

[whole notch]

Is it possible to attach a photo to the AI ​​text model?

[fast kite]

He is broken again

[frosty lava]

gpt 5.3 is better in my opinion than opus 4.6, and when gemini 3.1 will release i really hope it gonna beat gpt 5.3, we're really not close to very usefull ai honestly

• what's really interesting is that an open source model is as good as gpt 5.1

[left lodge]

Kimi K2.5 and GLM 5 really broke the gap with closed source models

[frosty lava]

i really believe that its possible at some point an open source model beat the best gpt model

[desert abyss]

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[frosty lava]

the big ai companies are just scaling with raw power

which is honestly stupid cause why they don't do what's working with open source model and add it with a very large raw power with huge data center

it would be much more efficient

than it is with only the raw power

[left lodge]

Well data quality matters , big organizations I think are just dumping data into ai model and scaling up and the results are wired like gemini 3 pro and flash

[frosty lava]

if open source model can be made without those huge data center the big companies have, imagine if they just fuse both, like what would be achievable

[left lodge]

And open labs don't have that amount of data so they can sort and filter out better quality data and can concentrate on a single model

Passion is what driving these open labs and profit is what driving those big organizations
The difference is clear.

[surreal zephyr]

future is bad

[frosty lava]

yes but its supposed to be a race, whatever drive the big organizations, its really stupid to not use good idea

[surreal zephyr]

we will get more realistic models

nano banana already SUCKS at making slop

wheres my beloved veo 1?

sora alpha?

the brainrot just feels different

[frosty lava]

Like we NEED an open source model to actually beat one of the big organizations, for them to actually use their brain and add those good idea from those open labs to their model

I really don't get it, it doesn't sound logical, why some small team can do almost as good as huge organizations with huge data center with so many gpus, it shouldn't be doable

its like they're too lazy to actually think of better ways to do

and they just keep adding more gpu

[subtle frost]

What ai hallucinate the least

[mighty spindle]

#video-arena-1 crea un video

[desert abyss]

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[north obsidian]

Lol it has been the 32° advertisement

[left lodge]

Usually Claude.
And GLM 5 shocked everyone it's good at not hallucinating

[sleek phoenix]

??

i usually see chatgpt hallucinate the most

at least from those that i use

[left lodge]

Gemini is the worse

[left lodge]

He asked for the least

[sleek phoenix]

if 3 flash or thinking flash then yeah

[sleek phoenix]

oh wow i am so smart

[left lodge]

Both

[hollow ivy]

it's meh, not bad not good

partially it is really good, partially it is AI slop