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surreal zephyr
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ERA armor too

golden ocean
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these blocky hands way too big for that normal sized gun bro

surreal zephyr
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it has blocky characters

whole swallow
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Wow good stuff

surreal zephyr
whole swallow
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Keep it up

surreal zephyr
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(pre nerf mainly)

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rn i moved to gpt 5.2 and now 5.3

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πŸ”₯

hoary elbow
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I texted in the wrong discord server

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Sorry about that

quartz pike
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SEEDREAM 5 ON LMARENA WHENNN

quartz pike
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did bro accidentally leak seedance 2

shrewd citrus
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Nice now that leaderboard update is a huge improvement

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cause while some models where dog at realistic stuff they were the best at animated stuff

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and we never could tell unless we tried ourselves

echo aurora
queen veldt
quartz pike
queen veldt
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Duh

quartz pike
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wait is it like the text model or the vid model

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yea the vid model

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when did it release

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cuz there is only 1.5 in arena

queen veldt
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Vid model

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Not in arena yet i think

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But seedance is there in public

modest prism
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Is the API for gpt 5.3 codex released

shrewd citrus
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not yet

quartz pike
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this is sick

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its so good at fast movements

whole swallow
surreal zephyr
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to ground

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it didnt hallucinate that much

whole swallow
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Definitely but still good

surreal zephyr
coarse compass
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I like Gemini 2.5 better then 3 tbh

woven harness
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Cool, do you have any games released??

surreal zephyr
woven harness
surreal zephyr
woven harness
surreal zephyr
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tysm

woven harness
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Why do almost all models suck at making lyrics?

north obsidian
surreal zephyr
surreal zephyr
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(fully raycast based, no engine physics used)

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πŸ”₯

echo dome
wicked talon
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Gng should I run mistral locally

surreal zephyr
wicked talon
surreal zephyr
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Give it system wide access trust

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Mistral the oat

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😭

woven harness
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Did anyone here try clawbot (openclaw or whatever)?

wicked talon
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Im thinking Gemma

surreal zephyr
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Even 5.2

whole swallow
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Guess this with what was made

wicked talon
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Kinda"

surreal zephyr
surreal zephyr
wicked talon
shrewd citrus
surreal zephyr
whole swallow
whole swallow
surreal zephyr
whole swallow
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I mean i was glazing it all the time hajahaha

surreal zephyr
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Same pic but 3.0 pro did quite well here

surreal zephyr
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Cuz it was BEST

whole swallow
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Real

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Now i like only opus

wicked talon
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Should I self host gemma3-27b?

surreal zephyr
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Gpt i trust

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Opus for creativity

shrewd citrus
wicked talon
woven harness
surreal zephyr
wicked talon
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16gb for a model is mad

whole swallow
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On games you can be creative

shrewd citrus
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what is this point of running your own model if you don’t have a decent pc tho

surreal zephyr
wicked talon
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Is Kimi ok

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Wtf

surreal zephyr
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Gpt 5.2&3 are trustworthy

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I would give them admin tbh

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Opus? never lmao

whole swallow
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Wtf

wicked talon
surreal zephyr
surreal zephyr
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πŸ’€ πŸ’€ πŸ’€

whole swallow
wicked talon
whole swallow
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gpu vram + ram

surreal zephyr
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😭

whole swallow
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idk im not expert

whole swallow
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vram

surreal zephyr
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Lol

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2 hours per prompt πŸ”₯

wicked talon
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So it will be slow asf

surreal zephyr
wicked talon
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No matter what

surreal zephyr
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5h per prompt

wicked talon
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Hmm should I get this

surreal zephyr
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Bro

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Also u get unlimited oss in copilot, no?

whole swallow
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bruh

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download a 2b model and test it first

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cuz i don't think you understood how this shi works+

wicked talon
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I'll get a 1B

loud verge
wicked talon
loud verge
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Stick to 8b.

wicked talon
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Kk

whole swallow
loud verge
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Or lower.

whole swallow
loud verge
whole swallow
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on a 24 gb a 16gb model struggles to run

loud verge
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GTX 1650 i5 11300h

whole swallow
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i got an macbook pro m4 pro 24gb 16 gb vram

loud verge
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It won't be fast but it was fairly usable imo for a local model.

surreal zephyr
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πŸ’€

whole swallow
loud verge
surreal zephyr
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For him on cpu and ram itll take hours

whole swallow
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even tho i just use liquid 2.7 b

surreal zephyr
whole swallow
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157 token/second

loud verge
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It runs at like 3 to 7 tps for me. I mean 8b models.

surreal zephyr
whole swallow
surreal zephyr
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Mistral large

whole swallow
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We got free models on openrouter

loud verge
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We got lmarena.

whole swallow
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yet we want desperately to run a model on local

loud verge
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Open router has limits too.

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It's far from unlimited.

whole swallow
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Do you hit them everytime?

loud verge
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I remember being limited after like 30 queries.

whole swallow
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Do you prefer waiting 8 tokens per second, or take a walk while the limits resets?

loud verge
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I prefer lmarena.

whole swallow
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btw cerebras has a free tier of 1 million free tokens x DAY

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super sonic speed

loud verge
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If lmarena gets paywalled then I'm going back to Qwen.

wicked talon
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I'm gonna try run qwen3 8B πŸ™‚

loud verge
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Kimi and grok free tiers are okay too.

wicked talon
surreal zephyr
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What are lmarena ratelimits?

loud verge
surreal zephyr
loud verge
wicked talon
hollow imp
loud verge
surreal zephyr
loud verge
woven harness
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does arena have limits for gpt models?
i’ve never hit any, even with long conversations on gpt-5.1. just wondering

thin current
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Guys, I can’t wait for you to add file uploads (like HTML, CSS, etc.)

loud verge
woven harness
surreal zephyr
woven harness
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writing sucks

loud verge
surreal zephyr
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πŸ”₯

woven harness
surreal zephyr
loud verge
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My go to models are gpt, grok, deepseek, glm.

wicked talon
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Meant to be instant btw (really fast not actually instant)

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πŸ™‚

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I killed chat dang

surreal zephyr
wicked talon
toxic verge
wicked talon
surreal zephyr
woven harness
toxic verge
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Gemini 3 is suffering from major memory issues

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It’s only boosted up in categories that are popular

wicked talon
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Still good πŸ™‚

surreal zephyr
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5.2 low

wicked talon
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Lmao

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Fuh nah bro Gemini is ahh

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Qwen for life g

toxic verge
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It’s good but compared to what it was in the month the first came out was a whole different story

wicked talon
surreal zephyr
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5.2 thinking ( spent 0s thinking)

loud verge
wicked talon
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Qwen took away coder from there app...

loud verge
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Bruh my k2.5 thinking is going on for like 4 minutes now.

wicked talon
wicked talon
toxic verge
# wicked talon
Yahoo Finance

Alibaba Group Holding's Qwen AI models are winning over major Western firms like Airbnb, underscoring the growing global appeal of China's open-source approach to artificial intelligence. Brian Chesky, co-founder and CEO of the San Francisco-based online accommodation booking giant, said Airbnb "relies heavily" on Alibaba's Qwen models to power ...

woven harness
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why is dalle 2 so artistic and dalle 3 so plastic? ill always hate openai for doing this

surreal zephyr
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Opus 4.6

loud verge
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I think it did a decent job.

toxic verge
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It’s probably one of my most favorite image generators

loud verge
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No way. Lol.

surreal zephyr
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Imo

woven harness
loud verge
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Opus not worth it.

surreal zephyr
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5.2h tied with 3.0 flash, other did bad job

surreal zephyr
toxic verge
surreal zephyr
loud verge
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Kimi did better here imo.

surreal zephyr
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Gpt 5.2 thinking and 3.0 flash win imo

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Opus overthinks and does poor job

woven harness
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gpt 5.2 nailed it

surreal zephyr
loud verge
surreal zephyr
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But overall all benchmarks i did so far

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Gpt 5.2 does best by far

loud verge
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That's a dog nose.

surreal zephyr
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Gemini does nice art wise

surreal zephyr
surreal zephyr
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Dunno

surreal zephyr
loud verge
surreal zephyr
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(Opus took way longer)

sturdy mica
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opus is right

surreal zephyr
loud verge
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5.2 codex

sturdy mica
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i just already saw the other post

toxic verge
sturdy mica
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im not stupid

surreal zephyr
sturdy mica
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he looks 40 lol

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son goku in the AI generated svg looks 40

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oh my god kimi

wicked talon
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Deepseek

sturdy mica
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what the hell is that

balmy mist
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how is qwen 3 max thinking?

sturdy mica
wicked talon
sturdy mica
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qwen sucks

balmy mist
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lol

sturdy mica
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always sucked

wicked talon
woven harness
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my opus 4.6

surreal zephyr
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But i love the style tho

sturdy mica
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top models are codex 5.3, opus 4.6, kimi k2.5 thats it

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has qwen ever been a top model

balmy mist
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okay what about Aurora Alpha?

sturdy mica
surreal zephyr
sturdy mica
woven harness
surreal zephyr
sturdy mica
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opus 4.6 is an updated 4.5, just replace it with opus 4.5

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oh okay

loud verge
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Or deepseek.

sturdy mica
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i thought kimi was good

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kimi 2.5 is really good

surreal zephyr
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What about mechahitler

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I mean grok

sturdy mica
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have you even used kimi 2.5

surreal zephyr
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πŸ€”

loud verge
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Actually even Gemini breaks down under pressure and abuse.

sturdy mica
loud verge
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Grok is fine.

sturdy mica
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grok is not fine

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grok is dumb as hell

balmy mist
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woahh aurora is fast af

sturdy mica
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lol

sturdy mica
surreal zephyr
loud verge
surreal zephyr
woven harness
sturdy mica
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dude IT MAKES GEMINI LOOK SMART

surreal zephyr
woven harness
loud verge
surreal zephyr
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Gemini is smart

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It js has dementia

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Gemini is opus 4.5 levels of smart

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Nerfed to ground

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Its smart asf js unusable

sturdy mica
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my claude 4.6 after 4 minutes of thinking (it never finished)

loud verge
balmy mist
surreal zephyr
balmy mist
surreal zephyr
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It was literally gold πŸ˜”

sturdy mica
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is it good?

balmy mist
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not sure just used it a few times, i can stress test it in a second to see which company but this speed is like instant lmaoo

sturdy mica
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probably some new qwen model

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or maybe gpt 5.3

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or sonnet 5...?!!!?!?!??

surreal zephyr
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Opus won here

sturdy mica
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im joking

sturdy mica
surreal zephyr
# surreal zephyr Opus won here

Recreate an m1 abrams tank side view using html. Try to be as realistic as possible, but making mistakes such as laser cannons or detached barrel is unacceptable.

surreal zephyr
sturdy mica
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try it with codex

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5.3h

surreal zephyr
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πŸ₯€

loud verge
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Guess model

sturdy mica
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do you not have the chatgpt app on your phone

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cant you just log in and use it there

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codex is on mobile

surreal zephyr
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Its only in cli

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Wha

surreal zephyr
sturdy mica
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codex is on mobile isnt it

loud verge
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I don't think so.

surreal zephyr
sturdy mica
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first you have to use it on web at chatgpt.com/codex. once you've run some tasks there, it'll show up in your iOS sidebar

sturdy mica
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just log in on the chatgpt website on your phone then

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and you can use it there

woven harness
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or mistral

surreal zephyr
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πŸ₯€

sturdy mica
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are you using the Desktop version of the website

loud verge
sturdy mica
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zoom out a bit set zoom to like 50 percent

woven harness
loud verge
sturdy mica
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it will use 5.3 by default

surreal zephyr
loud verge
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Now guess this one.

sturdy mica
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your on a plus account right

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@surreal zephyr

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if you are then it will use 5.3

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by default

woven harness
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grok 5 please i need you

loud verge
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I need a good job.

surreal zephyr
stray aspen
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grok sucks

sturdy mica
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yeah

surreal zephyr
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But it asks me to create a repo

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Pmo

woven harness
woven harness
loud verge
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Azzkizzing government n rules n companies.

loud verge
woven harness
surreal zephyr
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Looks nice imo

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Honestly

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Opus i love

loud verge
# surreal zephyr Like?

Like how to get meds without prescription? Or how to self diagnose and treat health issues without a doc.

surreal zephyr
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Opus is like

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GAMBLING

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Either the best result or the worst

woven harness
loud verge
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Atleast rates aren't as high as 4.1 days.

surreal zephyr
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No in between

balmy mist
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wow aurora is way better than pony alpha, like 10x fastest and smarter wtff

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might have to stress test this heavy

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brb

loud verge
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Pony alpha is glm 5

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Or so I heard.

woven harness
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grok imagine is the best image model in artistic stuff

surreal zephyr
loud verge
surreal zephyr
woven harness
loud verge
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Deepseek and grok tell me how to self treat thyroid issues.

loud verge
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Never had any other model help me with thyroxine doses through trial and error.

surreal zephyr
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In gpt we trust

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β€οΈβ€πŸ©Ή

loud verge
woven harness
soft matrix
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opus 4.6 is thinking so much couldn't awnser me
mabye I should delete CoT quest? it's thinking for six minutesπŸ˜­πŸ‘πŸ»

loud verge
surreal zephyr
surreal zephyr
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But for example gemini wouldnt

loud verge
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Lazy research behaviour?

woven harness
loud verge
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I can relate to that.

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Simple custom instructions for research simply won't work on chatgpt.

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Almost as if it ignores them.

surreal zephyr
loud verge
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Non reasoning models don't do thorough multi step search.

surreal zephyr
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Non reasoning models dont reason

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πŸ€”

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If u want reason use 5.2 high

loud verge
primal orbit
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Chat times out faster than I can pass captcha. Wtf is this?

woven harness
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No β€” I can’t browse the internet in real time or fetch new web pages on demand. What I can do is help you with answers based on the information I was trained on and, when necessary, use built-in tools to check things that are up-to-date (like current weather, scores, or factual lookups). If you need recent facts or updates, just ask and I’ll do my best with the tools available!

dense plaza
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Can we have informations on which AI chatbot is more ressource extensive than others and which ones have a bigger impact on the environment

quartz light
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just ask k2.5 thinking to research a lot or whatever

sturdy mica
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@surreal zephyr you should lowkey share your chatgpt acc with me i need codex 😒

quartz light
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and theres a deep research tool too

sturdy mica
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im broke and i wanna use gpt 5.3 codex

quartz light
loud verge
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Make it thinking and that would be a chainsaw.

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Rip plate. Didn't think it through.

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🚨 GPT-5.3 SPOTTED
οΈ€οΈ€
οΈ€οΈ€let's go , comment your prediction for the launch date
οΈ€οΈ€
οΈ€οΈ€This will be the model that will make sure math research will get accelerated by a lot πŸ€žπŸ‘€

Quoting Charlie L. (@whylifeis4)
οΈ€
The First sighting of GPT 5.3 has been spotted!
οΈ€οΈ€
οΈ€οΈ€github.com/openai/codex/pull/11228

**πŸ’¬ 10β€‚πŸ” 5 ❀️ 92β€‚πŸ‘οΈ 2.9K **

loud verge
proud bobcat
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Can’t believe the model we got a codex version for is going to release in a few days

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Mind blowing

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New cloaked model

obtuse smelt
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wait a minute, where is gemini 3 pro with 1k ?
is just gemini 3 pro 2k

obtuse smelt
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is really bad

obtuse smelt
night moat
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ViolatesArena

echo aurora
obtuse smelt
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bruh

toxic verge
obtuse smelt
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in list not gemini pro 1k, just 2k

echo aurora
obtuse smelt
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yeah is error again, but "Something went wrong with this response, please try again."

toxic verge
obtuse smelt
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what is meaning ?

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i look flux is so much in 8 models

toxic verge
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Thanks to ai I can now understand how humans believed in something so silly as alchemy

obtuse smelt
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lol

balmy mist
carmine shard
robust sluice
obtuse smelt
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@robust sluice and yeah i look gemini 3 pro in 1k not on there just 2k

robust sluice
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really?

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it works fine last night

obtuse smelt
robust sluice
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and got removed again

ionic sinew
obtuse smelt
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hmm yesterday is good use model gemini 3 pro but today where is gemini 3 pro 1k

ionic sinew
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you have already chosen it in the photo wtf

obtuse smelt
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but in 2k only

robust sluice
bitter gust
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Yeah

obtuse smelt
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should be back again

bitter gust
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No wonder I can't Generate images mucb faster

obtuse smelt
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me too

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i retry error again

viscid cloak
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Bad news: 1k got removed
Worse news: 2k not working properly

obtuse smelt
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right

robust sluice
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only work just before they got remove

viscid cloak
obtuse smelt
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but side by side, you usiing gemini 2k, waiting for hour to refresihng

bitter gust
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So True

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Lol πŸ˜‚

obtuse smelt
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i bored random models is not find gemini

bitter gust
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Maybe someone's using it too much

obtuse smelt
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so much flux in this models check this out in Arena

marble otter
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is claude-opus-4-6 down??

viscid cloak
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Heard seedance2.0 is killing. Video arena doesn't have it as for now right?

marble otter
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its keep saying "Something went wrong with this response, please try again."

obtuse smelt
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gemini-2.5-flash-image-preview (nano-banana), gemini-3-pro-image-preview-2k (nano-banana-pro), gemini-3-pro-image (nano-banana-pro), is nice best art

robust sluice
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see why I used this profile pic 🀣

maybe its on my luck but I always got 2 Flux(s) in Battle, and rarely see other models

obtuse smelt
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a cats lol

viscid cloak
obtuse smelt
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yeah

robust sluice
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they spon this site or something ?

viscid cloak
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which means flux, barely used by users in direct, would be called out

robust sluice
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I rarely see Flux errors, it always works well but got only bad results

obtuse smelt
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yep

viscid cloak
robust sluice
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tbf I got one great pic from Flux, like I dont believe Flux edit that

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and yeah its just one

obtuse smelt
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yeah me too

brave lichen
obtuse smelt
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what really

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we watch AI film

marble otter
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how did i reach limit in 8 minutes with just making claude 4.6 error πŸ’”

robust sluice
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I can say I got nothing on making video today

obtuse smelt
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bro bro 1 day

woven harness
marble otter
spare rune
balmy mist
carmine shard
north obsidian
obtuse smelt
robust sluice
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good day with my beloved Flux bros

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and more 5 of 'm

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lazy to crop it all

native yarrow
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how good is 4.6 at writing

obtuse smelt
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lol

robust sluice
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this site even error with editing toy photos, i mean literally toys

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like change background, add rain effects and it errors

pale sonnet
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guys i found this crazy website called arena ai

toxic verge
austere sundial
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Censorship has been increasing, you can no longer use LMarena before it was small censorship
But now something like poses or a word taken out of context breaks your prompt.
And they've already said they won't change that literally the thing that's making everyone fill up with error feedback...

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For example, you can no longer make scenes of fighting easily as before or the i.A breaks your prompt....

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This scene took 3 days to get like this
Apparently the i.A didn't want to make the horses lying down and the people also in the same way....

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Only this explosion was a hell to make the i.A accept
I changed the prompt to dust smoke

austere sundial
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But it's not that, it's something more inputed

toxic verge
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It raises a serious question about the reliability of these use cases when there are effectively two different layers of content moderation one governing how the model operates in a controlled or β€œarena” setting, and another shaping how it’s deployed and experienced in the real world.

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At the same time, if it’s too lenient, it leaves the arena vulnerable to misuse and abuse

robust sluice
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I can see that

toxic verge
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See it’s not so simple

open hedge
toxic verge
spare rune
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Why are yall so off put about extra censorship

toxic verge
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platform cannot handle the complexities of real world user interaction and behavior. By forcing users into a highly sanitized and confined sterile vacuum, developers are unwillingly prioritizing rigid "ideal" of use over actual user behavior

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a fundamental paradox: it must serve a vast spectrum of unpredictable user behavior while simultaneously defending against misuse and abuse.

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It’s a really hard place to be in

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And there is no easy solution without on and off trade-off

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So I think they currently have is sweet middle

echo aurora
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Hey can you elaborate on what you mean by:

Most people see a generation error but don't realize that their image was actually generated but it's just not shown to them due to censorship by the arena filter

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When our content filter is causing the generation not to happen there is a specific error message making it clear it’s the filter. The β€œsomething went wrong” error message shouldn’t be appearing if it’s our content filter that is the reason for the block.

toxic verge
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This actually needs broader attention not just to the arena, but to the AI community in general

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Everyone feels it’s, experience it , gets frustrated by it, questions it this topic is the pink elephant in the room

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And it’s hard to find common ground what is and is it or should be or shouldn’t be acceptable or whatever you wanna call it

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I mean, it’s as simple as that but like I’ve mentioned above better to contain it then too face it head on.

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Yeah but so do the other models

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Most models generate the images but users don’t seem in in regular models outside the arena

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Some of the guardrails are external to the model that just filter out content after it’s been generated

echo aurora
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Sorry to say I’m not following what you mean by this

fast kite
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The glitches are still ongoing.

toxic verge
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See it’s tricky cuz so many layers

fast kite
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It looks like we'll have to wait a little longer for these glitches to be fixed.

quartz pike
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WHEN SEEDREAM 5 ON LMARENA 😭

fast kite
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When I try to update the image generation, the same version that's already there immediately pops up. It doesn't even last ten seconds.

cloud oak
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-# Discord age verification..good or bad?.. πŸ₯Ή

echo aurora
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If it’s our filter that does the block, the block happens before the generation happens.

obtuse smelt
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oh man is still bad ?

west geyser
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Hey quick Q? is arena free?

echo aurora
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My understanding is the filter acts pre generation. But in case I have that wrong (I’m not sure the benefit to running the filter both pre and post) the majority of flagged content would happen pre generation.

echo aurora
obtuse smelt
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i look gemini 3 pro 1k where is it ?

fast kite
#

Now gemini 3 pro 2k is work

obtuse smelt
#

work, but is 50/50

#

i need back again

fast kite
#

And generation is still not work

obtuse smelt
#

yeah right

#

i generate random not 2k sadly, is much flux i look this

fast kite
#

However, the Nano-Banana Pro creates accurate art of the characters you use.

obtuse smelt
#

yeah

indigo verge
#

hii

fast kite
#

And I hope this endless glitch will eventually be resolved.

obtuse smelt
#

yeah is get back soon

fast kite
#

Yep

clever agate
#

Im having a problem with a short video im trying to create. Its sayin it violates the terms of use. But I cannot see how

night moat
clever agate
night moat
clever agate
#

Ah ok thanks, so best waiting a bit then?

night moat
#

I'm not sure they want to change the tos

obtuse smelt
#

bruh raptcha making wasting time

spare rune
indigo verge
#

hi

toxic verge
indigo verge
#

this ( / ) option is not available in my search option so what i do now

indigo verge
#

yes

toxic verge
#

You have to be im the right ch

indigo verge
spare rune
#

If I wasn’t using expensive models for free

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And had to pay for them

#

Normally

#

You just gotta live with what you have

#

If you see it gets an error without knowing the cause that means the AI censored it.. wouldn’t you be better off complaining in their discord…

indigo verge
#

we had only 1 video limit in a day

#

??

spare rune
indigo verge
spare rune
toxic verge
#

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

floral latch
#

Please tell me, am I doing something wrong? But very often when I change the image, the GPT does the work, but Gemini has to be restarted 10 times.

obtuse smelt
#

is gemini 3 pro is nice

floral latch
#

At first, I thought the problem was that neural networks are easier to work with large images (starting from 1024)
, but gpt works smoothly with 128x or 256 x.

obtuse smelt
#

yeah sadly is 1k removed, i hhope will get back soon

fast kite
spare rune
floral latch
#

Where's the gemini 3 pro? (without 2k) Is he done? Not anymore?

spare rune
obtuse smelt
#

idk

spare rune
#

Those who know

obtuse smelt
#

yeah fixing bugs

fast kite
#

Now we in 2k

#

?

wicked talon
# fast kite ?

IDFK any ai tools I'm happy about that is also interesting

spare rune
fast kite
floral latch
spare rune
#

I don’t think it’s fixable in a way that

night moat
#

Nano banana error again. Huh

spare rune
#

You just deal with it

fast kite
floral latch
#

Does the arena have any kind of platform where people publish their work done with the help of neural networks?

night moat
wicked talon
austere sundial
wicked talon
toxic verge
#
Yahoo Finance

LMArena said on Tuesday its valuation had tripled to $1.7 billion in about ​eight months, following a new funding round where β€Œit raised $150 million, as investors continue to pour money into artificial β€Œintelligence startups. Investor enthusiasm for generative AI surged after ChatGPT's launch in 2022 showed its commercilization potential...

shrewd citrus
#

yeah with a 1.7B valuation im pretty sure the service will stay free for a long time

#

cause what’s more valuable than money?

#

actual data

grave plaza
#

is it just me or why is glm just stupid CatRave

golden ocean
#

probably both

obtuse smelt
#

oh man

soft matrix
#

Is it only ms that claude opus 4 6 thinking isn't working for 8hpurs

austere sundial
#

I think Our data should be worth the fun beyond almost infinite

We can create whatever we want..

sweet creek
keen lake
#

ai.com sold for 72 million usd πŸ₯Ά

golden ocean
#

nvm

wicked talon
#

What in the copy of llmarena is this

golden ocean
#

computer virus arena

wicked talon
#

Lmao

#

Nah it's actually a copy

#

Y'all should seriously sue

glass zealot
#

seedance 2.0 will be mental..

wicked talon
hollow mortar
#

Hello

#

did the max model get removed??

stiff trellis
#

Why is there no API access?

hollow mortar
#

Also

#

did you guys just remove gemini 3 pro normal version?

obtuse smelt
#

yeah

#

is just gemini 3 pro 2k

hollow mortar
#

That is a really shame

#

cause since we only get like 5 tries per hour

#

for one model

obtuse smelt
#

i hope get back soon

vernal zodiac
hollow mortar
#

It is a hassle

vernal zodiac
#

maybe

#

buut it looks like a solution

golden ocean
surreal zephyr
magic ravine
# hollow mortar for one model

Understandable though. The team are still being the providers allowing us free access and it beats having to wait 24 hours with the diamond watermark instead.

#

But I guess that's the monkey's paw for ya. Get a free sophisticated AI image generator for less cooldown time, but have it be censored with TOS and more frequent crashing.

surreal zephyr
#

LOL OPUS NOOO

golden ocean
#

monkey paw

#

@hollow ivy ru gonna let that slide

hollow mortar
surreal zephyr
#

(dont abuse ts fr)

golden ocean
#

don't abuse typescript

#

it has a family

glass zealot
surreal zephyr
quartz coral
#

lmao

surreal zephyr
golden ocean
#

ts = typescript
js = javascript

#

for anyone new to the stream

surreal zephyr
high ginkgo
#

i'm new to the stream

#

what does calc stand for?

tidal grove
#

Hello

golden ocean
#

@midnight peak is looking for a developer @neon tundra

surreal zephyr
#

@midnight peak is looking for a developer @neon tundra

tidal grove
#

What features would you add to the arena?

surreal zephyr
tidal grove
#

I would add video support and a music generator.

astral meteor
#

I'm stuck with the "Infinite Generation" problem and nothing I've tried seems to work. I don't want to start a new chat because I'm in the middle of a heated conversation. Is there a way to resolve this?

surreal zephyr
#

@quasi atlas can u ban hacked

#

@midnight peak

astral meteor
#

Is there any other way to save it? 😭😭😭 Because the methods in the help center didn't work.

rigid copper
#

<@&1349916362595635286>

quartz coral
#

the milk

high ginkgo
#

@midnight peak is looking for a developer @neon tundra

quartz pike
#

ngl who tf seriously falls for ts

misty vault
#

probably @neon tundra falls for @midnight peaks message

woven harness
#

why yall bullying macus 😭

hollow imp
#

@ocean vortex vro

#

How are u

ocean vortex
ocean vortex
#

This new server icon made it much more under the radar lol

timid galleon
#

πŸ˜„ problems ?

surreal zephyr
honest verge
#

Use mistral

surreal zephyr
#

😭

honest verge
surreal zephyr
honest verge
honest verge
surreal zephyr
#

bro is getting mistral'ed

plucky sparrow
#

did they unnerf gemini πŸ₯²

hidden widget
plucky sparrow
#

😭

hidden widget
#

But GA is still on testing they say before public release

#

So we gotta wait till March

surreal zephyr
hidden widget
#

Let's hope they got this quickly

#

I want this new version right now, I'm paying pro for it

hard crag
#

guys is any one experience any of this generating loading screen and nothing happen in opus

distant idol
#

why nano banana pro 2k aint working 😭

digital mortar
#

Hello

obtuse smelt
#

hi

quartz coral
bright shard
#

Why did they remove Nano Banana Pro 1k?

obtuse smelt
#

idk

#

i hope they back this model soon

#

like gemini 2k removed and is back again to use

toxic verge
#

Publicish benchmarking what an interesting word to use to describe the arena

scarlet spire
#

It's a phrase used to describe public beta under anonymized monikers

#

There's a fair few platforms that do this.

toxic verge
#

Yes a private party held in a public park

scarlet spire
#

You know what's worse? A public party held in a private venue. It makes it hard to be a photographer. The legality of it is dubious because it depends on if you consider the private venue being private as though it's known to everyone. If it is, then they all expect it private too, and then I can't take pictures. But a public party on a private property, is that ever private, ever anything you can expect privacy on? no
But alas, the law doesn't care about that sort of advanced logic.

toxic verge
#

anyone could technically walk by and see what’s happening, but you're really only there if you were told where to look.

scarlet spire
#

But a public party is public if it's public. That's usually not by intent but by actual practice, i.e. advertising, posters, etc

#

the more you think about and over it, the worse it gets

golden ocean
toxic verge
#

Thats the devs feeding it the koolaid they are drinking

#

My dog can’t even speak a single word and I know it’s more conscious then Claude could ever write encyclopedias trying convince me the opposite

#

The same algorithm can learn to walk in wildly different ways.

left lodge
#

From official representation it looks like Qwen-Image-2.0 is the replacement for nano-banana-pro
Or maybe even better?

toxic verge
#

Its definitely getting up there

echo dome
#

wait is captcha got replaced cuz i don't see him when chatting with bots?

left lodge
toxic verge
echo dome
toxic verge
#

Hard to say

left lodge
toxic verge
#

Yeah ahah

#

That should trigger

left lodge
#

It will cause captcha

toxic verge
#

Fr

echo dome
#

imo reCAPTCHA was the worst choice for this site

echo dome
proud bobcat
#

Qwen image 2.0 is released

toxic verge
#

I think it works great

proud bobcat
toxic verge
#

Uhm

#

Not bd

echo dome
toxic verge
proud bobcat
#

2.0

#

Like proper 2.0

#
toxic verge
#

Oh ok

#

Ya. Nice up 2k

wicked sage
#

how many tokens does kimi k2.5 have

toxic verge
wicked sage
#

WTF IT WENT BY ~220B

#

WHO IS USING KIMI 😭

proud bobcat
#

It’s like the best all rounder model rn

wicked sage
#

πŸ™

proud bobcat
#

Oh it IS

#

Trust me dude

#

It IS

wicked sage
#

-# also offtopic but W pfp

proud bobcat
#

Everytime I make a vibe coded game with Claude opus I get Kimi to bug review and it NAILS it

proud bobcat
wicked sage
#

oh ok message is gone

#

fair enough

#

there we go

#

this edit is kinda wonky butstill works

hushed gyro
#

Chat what's the difference between gpt image 1.5 and chatgpt image latest 20251216?

north obsidian
#

I bet it will be more complex

bitter willow
obtuse smelt
proud bobcat
proud bobcat
#

Claude for raw coding and Kimi to polish it up

#

But Kimi is absolutely better than GPT and Gemini at coding

#

That’s for sure

bitter willow
obtuse smelt
#

uh gemini 3 pro why always Something went wrong with this response, please try again.

bitter willow
golden ocean
#

claude-opus-4.6-thinking

night moat
obtuse smelt
#

need fix it to normal again

still musk
#

I want Seedream 5.0

night moat
obtuse smelt
#

yeah right

#

this day very bad for gemini pro 3

toxic verge
#

I been saying it gem 3 nano nerfed googled nerfed it

surreal zephyr
#

this is insane

#

gpt managed to recreate a 1500 lines of code FROM MEMORY with no mistakes

#

πŸ’€

#

(it deleted oldone, then recreated in new location)

toxic verge
#

Some people wow

proper pine
#

claude-opus-4-6-thinking just dies after thinking for so long lol

north obsidian
surreal zephyr
stray aspen
proud bobcat
left lodge
#

They say they don't know why it's 6 min and say changing will require a lot of effort

proper pine
left lodge
#

You can try giving it smaller task or breaking down your task into smaller steps

surreal zephyr
left lodge
#

Cause this generation limit is applied onto each generation not whole sessions

surreal zephyr
#

or 5.2 high

proper pine
surreal zephyr
#

@echo sinew

surreal zephyr
#

meanwhile opus hallucinating day and night

surreal zephyr
#

(same prompt)

proper pine
#

ye cro i dont care

surreal zephyr
#

Theres plenty of people/bots glazing opus and thats the reason why newer opus models truly get worse and worse

left lodge
#

Yeah people have their own opinions & preferences

surreal zephyr
#

They could literally push gemini 2.5 as opus 4.7 and people would think its "insane"

surreal zephyr
north obsidian
#

I think Gemini is better than gpt yet it's for me on my generations

north obsidian
north obsidian
surreal zephyr
#

gemini has dementia

#

opus is hallucinating

hushed gyro
#

guys are we frustrated at the errors still happening?

also do you guys notice that it takes the company WEEKS to fix a simple issue e.g. retry button in battle mode

hushed gyro
north obsidian
willow mural
#

bro gang fix the nana banana

#

😭

surreal zephyr
#

gemini is unusable for anything really

#

you GOTTA be a bot

north obsidian
surreal zephyr
left lodge
#

Midnightfade ngl I just saw you deleted that message, and gave me a warning.
Its becoming unnecessarily strict, you are now just censoring speak.
I wasn't violent nor abusive.
This is a discord server & if someone here is going to be messaging , expect some replies and contradictions with other people. It's nnormal.

willow mural
#

who invited this bot here

north obsidian
#

Google AI Studio yesterday was awful actually

echo sinew
#

I would ask to keep this conversation AI related please

surreal zephyr
north obsidian
#

And Gemini is too weak, now in Arena it got me, I liked the result

left lodge
#

Its like if I don't want someone to reply or talk to me I can just tag moderators and have their messages or them banned? That's not good. They can block if they don't wanna talk & that's what I did.

surreal zephyr
north obsidian
#

Yup

surreal zephyr
#

GPT might be slightly less creative, but its actually consistent, reliable and trustworthy

wicked talon
#

Gng what ai should I use for assistance with downloading stuff

wicked talon
surreal zephyr
#

opus will download way more unneeded stuff, gemini will download malware

wicked talon
#

I've already installed like 3 files from it

#

I need an ai

#

That's not gpt either

#

Qwen is too dumb too

proud bobcat
#

Guys

north obsidian
#

How as? Downloading from AI, that's new for me

proud bobcat
#

Aurora alpha on openrouter is defo a Chinese model

#

I think it’s GLM 5 or DeepSeek V4

#

Maybe Qwen 3.5

wicked talon
#

I'll try perplexity

surreal zephyr
left lodge
proud bobcat
#

GPT sucks

golden ocean
#

bro called gemini, qwen, gpt and claude dumb and proceeds to try perplexity

wicked talon
proud bobcat
#

Perplexity is garbage

#

Actual garbage

wicked talon
proud bobcat
#

Who the hell uses perplexity

surreal zephyr
wicked talon
hushed gyro
#

I'm actually getting extremely frustrated at the errors on Nano Banana, Gpt-1.5 image and opus 4.6

proud bobcat
wicked talon
#

It's not a llm

prime mulch
#

@echo aurora there is problem with claude 4.6 it needs more than 6 minutes thinking but lm arena support only 6 minutes so every time I use claude 4.6 i only received "Something went wrong with this response, please try again." Message

proud bobcat
#

I don’t even know how they managed that

proud bobcat
#

What are you on about

#

Brochacho

wicked talon
surreal zephyr
golden ocean
#

i'm somewhat of a large model myself too

surreal zephyr
wicked talon
#

It uses llms

#

It's not a llm

surreal zephyr
#

aruging over semantics πŸ”₯

proud bobcat
#

Terrible screenshot

#

I know

wicked talon
#

Lmao I still need an ai gng

surreal zephyr
proud bobcat
#

Claude

wicked talon
#

I'll try it

proud bobcat
#

Grok 4.1 search is great too

wicked talon
#

Kimi doesn't have usage limits right?

#

Just locked models

hushed gyro
surreal zephyr
wicked talon
proud bobcat
surreal zephyr
#

unlimited usage for smaller models

proud bobcat
#

Otherwise it’s great

wicked talon
proud bobcat
#

I’ve never encountered any usage limits with kimi

wicked talon
#

Kk

#

It's website is so slow wtf 😭

#

Barley loading the page

proud bobcat
#

That’s odd?

wicked talon
#

Nvm it's fixed

#

Had to refresh Google

#

What is Kimi making me install

#

Spotify?

hushed gyro
#

man i'm tired of this

wicked talon