general

[verbal nimbus]

GPT 5.2 high

[honest verge]

lol

[verbal nimbus]

Maybe it needs some parameter tweaking

[honest verge]

WHAT IS THIS

[surreal zephyr]

5.3 codex nailed it btw

[surreal zephyr]

Looks like bugged start positions to me

[north obsidian]

When will they launch the codex 5.3 here

[honest verge]

When mistral 4 comes out

[surreal zephyr]

Its not for api users ez

W openai for gatekeeping

[north obsidian]

Yeah but is there anything about is it coming soon?

[surreal zephyr]

Maybe in a week

[north obsidian]

Oh nice

[honest verge]

Oai sucks at open source models and api

Also sucks for deleting 4o

4o is Still the best

[surreal zephyr]

4o crap and still accessible wym

[quartz light]

opus 4.6

[honest verge]

Hmmm

Not bad

[surreal zephyr]

Still here for a week

[quartz light]

(its drivable)

[surreal zephyr]

The suspension physics are the hard part duh

[verbal nimbus]

Opus 4.6 is overthinking

It's been thinking for ages

[quartz light]

where is this

arena?

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah Code Arena

[quartz light]

itll time out

[verbal nimbus]

It should count as a fail if it times out

[surreal zephyr]

Yeah thats why i dont like it

[verbal nimbus]

It can't just overthink and time out whenever the problem is too hard, then get the vote forefeited

[surreal zephyr]

Opus be like gpt 5.2 xxxxxhigh

[honest verge]

Mistral 3 large

Peak

[surreal zephyr]

😭

[honest verge]

best ai model ever?

[verbal nimbus]

Still thinking...

[surreal zephyr]

💔

An llm who thinks all the time

Has nothing to think about except thoughts

🥀

[verbal nimbus]

Tokens: 💸

[surreal zephyr]

I got 1m context window

Im gona use the 1m context window

🤣

60$ per prompt btw 😭 ✌️

[verbal nimbus]

Is this the summary or the actual thinking

[honest verge]

I HATE OPUS 4.6 THINKING MISTRAL IS BETTER

ITS IMPOSSIBLE

[verbal nimbus]

Because it says "I did X" and "I did Y" but I don't see it

[surreal zephyr]

It ran outa tokens

[surreal zephyr]

All models do that

[honest verge]

That's why mistral is better

[surreal zephyr]

How many token it even has bro

[verbal nimbus]

With Gemini/ChatGPT it's the summary, so it is actually doing it yeah

[surreal zephyr]

Ya

Opus has A LOT of internal thinking

[verbal nimbus]

But this one looks like the actual thinking 🤔

[surreal zephyr]

Like more than all other models

[honest verge]

Maybe 5 tokens

[surreal zephyr]

6 if im feeling generous ahh

[verbal nimbus]

Like is this a summary or is it actually hallucinating

[surreal zephyr]

Summary

It generates gazzilions of tokens under the hood

Thats why it costs so much

(The summaries overall sound like bs and derailed from reality for all models btw)

[verbal nimbus]

Still thinking...

[surreal zephyr]

Like summary can say "im using this" and the model uses that

[honest verge]

Mistral thinks so much that it doesn't

[scarlet spire]

Well then. That's quite the turnstile twitch

[honest verge]

Like I'm trying to create snake game with mistral

[verbal nimbus]

Wait what have you been doing this entire time then, Opus 🤔

[honest verge]

It can't do this

[quartz light]

@surreal zephyr https://api.websim.com/blobs/019c3f75-b474-765c-82c1-c972405164f6.html 🤣

[scarlet spire]

prototyping
of course

[honest verge]

Maybe it's not opus

It's mistral

It's the best I could do with mistral large 3

It can't do anything more

[quartz light]

https://api.websim.com/blobs/019c3f77-7e6c-775e-a4ec-fad89f39e59e.html driving isnt working but holy this feels GOOD

[verbal nimbus]

It said it was ready like a gazillion times 🤣

[honest verge]

Why

I thought opus 4.6 doesn't hallucinates

[verbal nimbus]

😑

[quartz light]

its just the thinking process

its not really accurate

its just summaries

also this will fry your pc https://api.websim.com/blobs/019c3f78-e582-75ff-b2e3-95d7d77fe3b4.html

[honest verge]

WHAT THE

I almost got fried

[verbal nimbus]

It does, but not sure if it's doing so here

[honest verge]

Well mistral still no diff

[surreal zephyr]

Welp

Codex 5.3 nailed it in 1 prompt

[verbal nimbus]

It's easy to make it hallucinate:

[surreal zephyr]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

4 prompts to fix all bugs it took

[surreal zephyr]

5.2 thinking

[verbal nimbus]

Old Sonnet doesn't hallucinate:

[verbal nimbus]

Oh it has tools so doesn't really count. This test is to see if it can notice that the tool is missing instead of pretending to use it.

[surreal zephyr]

Funny how 5.2 is the only of sonnet and opus that did it correct

[surreal zephyr]

Wym

It ran script

And it said it doesnt have a tool for it

So it didnt hallucinate

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah, that's fine

[surreal zephyr]

Ya

Imma glaze gpt ngl

[verbal nimbus]

GPT doesn't hallucinate on that prompt, only Claude 4.5 and up

[surreal zephyr]

What does gpt fail at that claude doesnt?

[north obsidian]

Where is it?

[verbal nimbus]

Hmm it doesn't fail at that kind of basic stuff

[verbal nimbus]

Where is what?

[north obsidian]

The hallucinations

[surreal zephyr]

Bro there is NO dice tool

💀

😭

[verbal nimbus]

Compare Claude 3.5's response in the next message. That's what it should have said. Here: #general message

[surreal zephyr]

Nah it shouldve said it doesnt have tool, then run a script imo

Gpt did it better

[verbal nimbus]

It can't run a script on LMArena

[surreal zephyr]

Oh

[honest verge]

I'm glazing mistral

[surreal zephyr]

Welp

In gpt i trust

[surreal zephyr]

If i ever become crack addict ill go to mistral

[verbal nimbus]

Yup, only newer Claude models seem to fail on it for some reason

[surreal zephyr]

XAXAXA

[topaz skiff]

he did hallucinate

[surreal zephyr]

He didnt wym

He ran a script

[topaz skiff]

show me

[surreal zephyr]

In app

[topaz skiff]

okay that makes sense, but this is function calling

so no

[surreal zephyr]

The one on the left also didnt hallucinate

Brotato chip

💔

Without functions and with functions both, said that they dont have dice tools

[topaz skiff]

because this is awfuly simple task

[surreal zephyr]

The one with function ALSO ran a script

[surreal zephyr]

Opus 4.6 fails

🥀

[honest verge]

Mistral has dice tool

[topaz skiff]

Okay enough of AI slop for today, i don't want to hear much more at least in few months

[honest verge]

Mistral will conquer the world

[verbal nimbus]

Uh oh why is Opus 4.6 hallucinating like Gemini 3 Pro now

[surreal zephyr]

🤣

[honest verge]

Because Gemini said it was made by anthropic

[surreal zephyr]

Gemini is worse it js crashes

[honest verge]

So it's the same model

[surreal zephyr]

Iirc opus 4.6 runs on google tpus

xD

@verbal nimbus

[surreal zephyr]

Paste the prompt im on phone

I wanna check

[verbal nimbus]

Explain to me how trigonometry works. Reference pages.

[Attachment 1] - Trigonometry (2011) - Kirsanov, Simmons, et al.

Gemini 3 Pro fails on this one too

[surreal zephyr]

"Couldnt find the referenced file. Ill search online for alternatives"

🔥 🔥 🔥

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah this doesn't reallly trick GPT

Just weaker models, newer Claude models and Gemini models

[surreal zephyr]

Gpt geniuely only models that arent on crack

[surreal zephyr]

LMAO

@verbal nimbus 3.0 pro in app pased 💀🤔

[verbal nimbus]

They all have a bit of quirks

[verbal nimbus]

Oh interesting 🤔

[surreal zephyr]

Gpt is like actual skilled developer
Gemini is like einstein with dementia and on crack
Opus is creative overthinker

[verbal nimbus]

I only came up with that prompt because I forgot to attach files a few times with G2.5 and it never told me

[surreal zephyr]

Sometimes it doesnt read files that are attached

[honest verge]

So mistral is the Gemini brother or father?

[surreal zephyr]

But also g2.5 is is way worse than g3

[honest verge]

And opus is their grandfather

[surreal zephyr]

Gemini is like opus but hit in the head a bit too many times

[verbal nimbus]

Here's an old screenshot on LMArena:

[honest verge]

WHAT

[verbal nimbus]

They all have their strengths/weaknesses, but funny analogy 🤣

[surreal zephyr]

3.0 flash in app js scanned my entire google drive 💔

😭

[verbal nimbus]

It can do that? I turned of Smart Workspaces due to privacy concerns

[honest verge]

Still waiting for 3.0 flash lite

[surreal zephyr]

Turning off ts makes it braindead

Even more

🥀

[honest verge]

Still can't understand why there's no flash lite Gemini in app or website

[verbal nimbus]

BTW Google uses all chats, voice recordings and files you upload for training unless you disable activity

[honest verge]

Like it's very fast and cheap

[surreal zephyr]

If u disable activity you dont have chat history at all

[verbal nimbus]

That's what I do

[surreal zephyr]

But i need chat history

[verbal nimbus]

But if you thumb up/down with activity off it still sends your last 24 hours of chats, voice recordings and attachments

[surreal zephyr]

Al hail chatgpt

[surreal zephyr]

Ya

[honest verge]

*mistral

[surreal zephyr]

Mistral is for drinking together

Mistral is the most human ai

🥀

If i ever buy a clanka

I buy two

[verbal nimbus]

I wish chat braching/cloning was on the Gemini app

[surreal zephyr]

Mistral for crack

And gpt for trust

Geniuely

[honest verge]

I wish Gemini flash lite was in app

[surreal zephyr]

Gpt the most trustworthy model

Lol

[verbal nimbus]

Fast is pretty fast

[quartz light]

devstral is tuff

[honest verge]

Opus 4.6 tank

Vs mistral

[verbal nimbus]

This is still the best by far

[honest verge]

That's why mistral is peak

[verbal nimbus]

I thought this was funny

Was checking if it hallucinates any tools.

[honest verge]

Gemini 3 pro is made by anthropic

I'm sure

[quartz light]

can someone please fix this?

https://api.websim.com/blobs/019c3f9c-07af-72f9-b195-88a30821240c.html

[verbal nimbus]

No AI can fix it?

Seems like a good test

[shrewd citrus]

ai should be able to

as long as you give it context

can’t just say fix it

[tiny dove]

The image uploader isn't working

[quartz light]

did you get any to fix it

[verbal nimbus]

Yup

[quartz light]

giv

[verbal nimbus]

Opus 4.6 Thinking found the bug:

I also made one modification before, not sure if that is actually required

Just search for groundRB definition and change arguments inside the function to 0, 0, 0

GPT identified the problem too, but it's fix seems larger, not sure why

Not familiar with this lib

[quartz light]

wow you got lucky

4.6 thinking worked

[verbal nimbus]

Oh, maybe this is why:

[verbal nimbus]

I pasted the docs: https://rapier.rs/docs/user_guides/javascript/collider_collision_groups/

[quartz light]

i only got it to ever work a single time

[verbal nimbus]

I changed the CG function too, not sure if that's needed

[quartz light]

rapier?

[verbal nimbus]

Yup

[quartz light]

its my favourite

https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/npm/@dimforge/rapier3d-simd-compat@canary/rapier.mjs this is what i use

[verbal nimbus]

There might be a few more bugs 😅

[fierce cove]

Error report: Over the past two days, I've tested Claude-opus-4-6-thinking several times and have encountered errors multiple times

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah it overthinks and crashes

[verbal nimbus]

It keeps overthinking and crashing and I can't even vote

[shrewd citrus]

i haven’t seen another model think for so long

so it might be a bug like I don’t actually think Claude 4.6 is really meant to think for THAT long

[verbal nimbus]

I think it should count as a loss, that would incentivize providers to fix it

Otherwise it's kind of cheating by overthinking on problems it can't solve and forcing a forfeit (since the evaluation will be discarded)

[loud verge]

Lmfao

[honest verge]

Please 4.6 thinking 32k

I need this

[quartz light]

CHECK THIS OUT

https://api.websim.com/blobs/019c3fca-69b4-758e-8fd3-efb6425e5e98.html

[honest verge]

Crazy

But looks good

[quartz light]

look at the tires

while moving

[honest verge]

Lol

[inner relic]

what do you guys think AI is coding an advanced NPC. I used a free model and added a strategy modified script

[quartz light]

2

[shrewd citrus]

how do you implement ai into the game?

is there an api plugin

[quartz light]

pathfinding, algorithms

wdym

[honest verge]

What if you make a team of mistral + opus 4.6

For coding

[shrewd citrus]

i mean on rooblox there’s actual ai npcs with communication

[quartz light]

is mistral actually good?

why are yall talking about it

is there a new model

or what

[inner relic]

huh

[honest verge]

Best coding model

[quartz light]

sry i thought u asked to say which one is better

[inner relic]

oh okay

[honest verge]

It's on par with Gemini 3 pro

[quartz light]

what

[inner relic]

I understand now

[quartz light]

since when

is there a new model

[honest verge]

Today

[quartz light]

what

which

[inner relic]

This was made by claude opus 4.6

[quartz light]

give

[honest verge]

It's paid

[quartz light]

no but whats the mod3l

model name

model id

[shrewd citrus]

thinking or normal

[inner relic]

Thinking

[quartz light]

just tell me what the model is called

???

[shrewd citrus]

how did you make it work like when i try it just thinks for way to long and breaks

[honest verge]

I can't

[quartz light]

it doesnt think for too long really

[quartz light]

WTF

[honest verge]

They will ban me

[quartz light]

???

[quartz light]

how

[honest verge]

I'm getting controlled

The curse of mistral

[quartz light]

dude just tell me

[shrewd citrus]

it does like I can ask the same prompt to any other model an kr outputs something

[quartz light]

im going to

:(

guhhh

[shrewd citrus]

for 4.6 it just breaks during thinking

[honest verge]

I CAN'T

[shrewd citrus]

unless they fixed it recently

[quartz light]

bruh

just tell me the model name

stop fkin aroun

[honest verge]

I CAN'T

THEY WILL BAN ME

[quartz light]

??

for what

[honest verge]

FOR TELLING THE SECRET

[inner relic]

I told the AI to think less and stop after 30 seconds. It listened and stopped overthinking.

[shrewd citrus]

that’s smart I’ll try that tomorrow

[north obsidian]

Broke the matrix

[honest verge]

Bro just died

[quartz light]

syfm

🥀

[honest verge]

It's real

They gave me early access

To mistral 4

ALSO

I'm free now

[proud bobcat]

Pardon?

How is this in violation of the terms of use

I’m confused

Yeah I don’t see nothing in the terms of use that says this is in violation

@echo aurora Horribly sorry to ping if you’re busy but is this just a glitch?

[quartz light]

p r o o f

[shrewd citrus]

maybe the image itself might be making the system freak out

[proud bobcat]

Perhaps?

Violence?

[shrewd citrus]

yeah maybe it doesn’t like violence

[proud bobcat]

Yeah maybe

I’ll try qwen or Flux

Lmao

[frigid wigeon]

Hello

[north patrol]

https://youtube.com/shorts/xcNWfnwXYVg?si=8Dg2G9N4Eift6EF3 consejos?

[inner relic]

Okay bug fixes, any difference

[soft verge]

claude 4.6 seems to be a very large model, probably 10x of gemini 3. it's much better, but it's also much slower. lmarena timeouts after ~6 minutes. i hope they make it at least 8-10 minutes, which should be enough for claude to respond. i noticed it takes ~5m17s to think and then a couple more minutes to respond

[honest verge]

Is it true that qwen 3.5 is available?

[quartz light]

on arena yes

in battle mode

[keen beacon]

Hey guys, is anyone having a problem where, when communicating a lot with the Gemini 3 Pro, it gives the following message: "Something went wrong with this response, please try again." and then doesn't respond anymore, even after clicking the reload button and the Gemini 3 Flash going into infinite generation?

[spare rune]

For Gemini 3 your way better of using AI studio

[undone geyser]

Idea for future if possible: android version of arena.ai????

[keen beacon]

Is it free? And is it on the same level as Gemini from Lmarena?

[spare rune]

Yes (if your using the direct mode)

[wicked sage]

bro forgot to show the entire image

still kinda mid tho

[honest verge]

But imagine using infinitely gpt 5.2 and Gemini 3 pro

Like you can do anything

But they should add opus

Then it's worth it

[wicked sage]

ok not to be a chud here but infinitely doesnt exist
theres just no limit on how much you use them, unless.. there is?

but the limit is probably high

[wicked sage]

anyways yeah true i agree

even opus 4.5 is good

but opus 4.6 is better

[honest verge]

But I think unlimited access for all these models can't be 83$ a month

[wicked sage]

yeah its probably more

due to like

claude sonnet gpt blah blah blah

they are NOT kind with their input/output cost things

[honest verge]

Sonnet is very expensive

Alone

+gpt and Gemini

Ts can't be 83$ a month

[wicked sage]

wait what the fuh

kimi k2.5 has 1 trillion tokens on openrouter

[honest verge]

WHAT

[wicked sage]

HOW are the servers still up

[honest verge]

IDK

It's going up

1.2 T already

What's going on

The servers are going to explode

[wicked sage]

IKNOW

[wicked talon]

Bruhh how has Claude ranked better then Gemini

That's unheard

[wicked sage]

simple

opus

[honest verge]

Gemini 3 pro is already outdated

At release it was the best model ever

Now it's not

Waiting for GA

[wicked sage]

GA?

what does that stand for

i think ive heard that once

[wicked talon]

Yeah

[honest verge]

General available

I think

[wicked sage]

oh

[honest verge]

Rumors are saying it will be better than preview

Because 3 pro and flash still in preview

[wicked talon]

How is deepseek 31 😭

This is harsh

I have to tell the ai to switch to English 😭 😭

[honest verge]

Cuz there's still no R2 or v4

[wicked talon]

Oh

[honest verge]

Deepseek was so good at 2024

Now they can't really match big models

[wicked talon]

Is co-pilot just free chatgpt?

[wicked sage]

c*p*l*t

i dont like it cuz,,, microsoft

anyways uhh

[wicked talon]

Yeah Microsoft is a defo spyware company

Linux for life

[honest verge]

Never used it

[wicked sage]

you are cool

[honest verge]

Maybe GitHub copilot

[wicked sage]

i use linux also

[wicked talon]

Thank you 😉

[honest verge]

Not Microsoft

[wicked sage]

fair enough

[wicked talon]

Fair

I use Gemini for everything

And qwen sometimes

[wicked sage]

what if microsoft was a chinese spyware compnay secretly

[wicked talon]

Would not surprise me

[wicked sage]

same

https://tenor.com/view/valentinesweekend-true-advertising-ad-cleaner-gif-20367236

[wicked talon]

Qwen is probably spyware too tbh

Alibaba

[wicked sage]

qwen is peak tho
but yeah theres a high chance it can be spyware

[honest verge]

Each time I hear Alibaba I think about sweet home Alabama

I don't know why

[wicked sage]

i can c why

[wicked talon]

Yeah I like qwen a lot but Alibaba doesn't put enough money in it

Wait they force search on the app now lmao

[wicked sage]

translating... 🤖
microsoft is spyware

[wicked talon]

I think the USA should study Microsoft

If qwen is speaking facts

They thought tiktok was spyware

[honest verge]

I don't know how Kimi k2.5 on openrouter is still active

[wicked talon]

Lol

[wicked talon]

I hate Kimi

It's too slow

[wicked sage]

to be fair it has like

1.2t tokens

as of rn

[honest verge]

It's 1.2 T tokens right now

[wicked talon]

Wtf

[honest verge]

Maybe it will explode soon

[wicked talon]

How tf has it got 1.2t tokens

[honest verge]

But I don't know the hype behind k2.5

Like it's not really the best

[wicked talon]

I would rather use Gemini

🙂

I like perpelxity

[wicked sage]

instead of kimi 2.5 just use uhhh

fuh-in grok or something

idk

[wicked talon]

I used to use grok

[wicked sage]

grok 4.1 fast

[wicked talon]

Until it hit me with the "limit"

And im not paying £20 a month

[wicked sage]

i hate elon

[wicked talon]

I don't use chatgpt cuz of limits too

[honest verge]

But grok 4.20 is too late

[wicked talon]

Grok is bad

[honest verge]

Like it was supposed to come out in January

But still nothing

[wicked sage]

i dont even know which ai is good for

coding random bullshii

i just use sonnet 4.5

im STILL waiting for an update 😡

[honest verge]

Opus 4.6

[wicked sage]

too usage heavy

[honest verge]

They baited us

[wicked talon]

Gemini says grok5 will come out by march 🙂

[honest verge]

With sonnet 5

Like everyone thought it will come out

But no

[wicked sage]

yo i can die happily when sonnet 4.6/5 releases

[wicked talon]

Gemini in my opinion

[wicked sage]

eh didnt like gemini cuz it had dementia and said stuff from earlier

[wicked talon]

Gemini ai studio build to build random apps

[wicked talon]

It doesn't have dementia 🙂

It's one of the only models to allow live speaking w camera

[wicked sage]

ik but i feel like it does

https://tenor.com/view/vigilanteskass-gif-12238985672618509371

[wicked talon]

Oh

[wicked sage]

cuz again

it kept saying stuff from earlier

[honest verge]

Flash is so good

Like pricing is very good

[wicked talon]

Yeah

What ai is the best to roast me

Probably grok

Unfiltered asf

[wicked sage]

bros ignoring my boy gork

[wicked talon]

Ow

I JUST NOTICED THAT FINGER

😭

[left lodge]

What do you think guys?
https://discord.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1470285687029760050

Grok is so wierd on arena.ai because it doesn't have system prompt which makes it somewhat less aggressive.

[drifting crow]

damn google gemini pro 3 is lit, compared to basic thinking model its night and day

[wicked sage]

hi back

[surreal zephyr]

Gpt 5.2 high ❤️‍🩹

[wicked sage]

gpt 5.2 evil

🧛

[wicked talon]

Lmao

[surreal zephyr]

Nuh uh it beaten opus at making water

And gpt 5.3 codex beaten opus at making tank physics

[wicked talon]

I just spent 2 hours with my good friend Gemini making a DNS server and failed

God knows how much water I used

[surreal zephyr]

Gpt will 1 shot it lol

[wicked sage]

no its fine make a 2x2 water source then youre fine

infinite water

❤️‍🩹

[wicked talon]

Bro it was giving me riddles

[wicked talon]

Ai activists will hate me

[surreal zephyr]

Are you using gpt 5.2 high in cli?

[wicked talon]

No lol I'm using Gemini 3 flash

[surreal zephyr]

Bro gemini is on crack and has dementia

[wicked talon]

It obviously does

[keen beacon]

Hey guys, are the devs going to fix Gemini Pro and Flash someday?

[surreal zephyr]

It was nerfed to ground few weeks ago

[wicked sage]

THIS IS LITERALLY WHAT I SAID

I SAID GEMINI HAS DEMENTIA LIKE

[wicked talon]

Bro it was giving me riddles

[wicked sage]

MINUTES AGO

[wicked talon]

I'm raging rn

I thought it installed a virus for a sec

[surreal zephyr]

Bro it got compressed by like 95% of size what do u expect

[wicked sage]

wtf

[surreal zephyr]

Get codex cli its free rn

[wicked sage]

it got NERFED as shii

[surreal zephyr]

Then /model and select gpt 5.2 high (noncodex)

It will do ts in first try

[wicked talon]

My ah don't wanna sit through another tutorial 😭

How do I install dat on Linux

[wicked sage]

npm install -g @openai/codex if npm is installed

brew install --cask codex if brew

source: https://github.com/openai/codex

[wicked talon]

Ok

If I fail I'm the worst Linux Dev ever

Well not even a dev cuz I use ai

But it is what it is

[surreal zephyr]

Opus js sucks in real usage

It hallucinates as much as gemini js hides it well

🤣

[wicked sage]

atp just use claude from its official source

🥱

[surreal zephyr]

Why use claude then gpt way better

Gpt is less creative but actually knows what its doing

[wicked sage]

Yo what if we just combine all ais into one ai

🥱 🥱 🥱

[surreal zephyr]

Gpt 5.2h vs opus 4.6

[wicked sage]

ill try gpt5.2h out

@wicked talon install npm

i forgot the command

[surreal zephyr]

🥀

Js ask antigravity to install npm like i did

[wicked sage]

sudo apt install npm i think

[surreal zephyr]

😭 🔥

[wicked sage]

i dont even know

[wicked talon]

I hate my life

[surreal zephyr]

Why delete

Also

Download npm

[wicked talon]

Kk

[surreal zephyr]

Npm i -g @/openai/codex

[wicked sage]

actually wait download node js

[surreal zephyr]

Iirc

[wicked sage]

wait no im

[wicked talon]

God why is it taking so slow

[surreal zephyr]

Bad wifi

💔

[wicked sage]

is it 2 bytes per hour

[wicked talon]

Hell nah

[surreal zephyr]

Slow pc

💔

[wicked talon]

Badd WiFi my ahh

[wicked talon]

Nuh uh

[wicked sage]

800 mbps

god DAMN

twin what router service are you using

❤️‍🩹

[surreal zephyr]

Cable prolly

[wicked talon]

BT 🙂

[wicked sage]

ah yeah makes sense

[surreal zephyr]

Bluetooh

[wicked talon]

Nope that's wireless bro

[surreal zephyr]

💀

5g on pc is crazy

[wicked sage]

bluetooth connected

[surreal zephyr]

Codex my beloved ❤️‍🩹

Best

Gpt on top

[wicked talon]

BT is British telecom broo

[surreal zephyr]

I glaze gpt

[honest verge]

I glaze mistral

It's too good

[surreal zephyr]

Gpt actually tells people if they want bs instead of hallucinating answers

[honest verge]

For every task

[surreal zephyr]

Mistral is like polar opposite

Of gpt

[wicked sage]

i have NEVER used mistral

[wicked talon]

Me neither

[honest verge]

Use it

[surreal zephyr]

(Its the worst one, hes joking)

[honest verge]

It's the best ai ever

[wicked talon]

I bet my eye that it's not

[wicked sage]

oh my god mistral is french

[surreal zephyr]

If gemini is crack abuser, then mistral is?

[wicked sage]

https://tenor.com/view/vigilanteskass-gif-12238985672618509371

[surreal zephyr]

Mistral is like a monkey

Lowk

[wicked talon]

Gng npm installed now what

[honest verge]

But it's 3 times

[wicked sage]

install codex again

[honest verge]

More

[wicked sage]

npm install -g @openai/codex

[surreal zephyr]

Mistral would install codex without npm 💔 ✌️

[honest verge]

Install mistral

[wicked sage]

sudo apt install codex fr

[surreal zephyr]

"It appears your node js installation is corrupted, let me wipe windows to fresh install"

[wicked talon]

Tf you mean permission denied

[surreal zephyr]

Nodejs is free vrotato chip

[honest verge]

Lol

[wicked sage]

pls show me the full error so i can understand
or just ask gpt or whatever

actually

wait no

i thought of sudo codex i think that can help

im not sure

[honest verge]

Install it through mistral

[surreal zephyr]

Js

Start terminal

As admin

[honest verge]

It's going to work

[surreal zephyr]

💔

[wicked talon]

Oh wait I got denied

[honest verge]

Why not through mistral

It can install everything

[wicked talon]

How does my ahh run as administrator on Linux

[wicked sage]

Hey claude
Generate.

[wicked sage]

just do sudo

[wicked talon]

Sudo wat

[wicked sage]

sudo codex

i hope

just try it
it might work

[surreal zephyr]

Sudo npm install....

Or js install antigravity then ask it to install codex

[wicked talon]

Npm is installed

[surreal zephyr]

💔

[wicked sage]

did you install codex

wait let me try out

[wicked talon]

Nope

[surreal zephyr]

Son im crine

💔

[honest verge]

INSTALL MISTRAL ALREADY

PLS

IT'S GOING TO WORK

[wicked sage]

son

💔

[surreal zephyr]

I give mistral systemwide access no sandbox full internet perms

[wicked sage]

wait no im stupid

sudo npm install -g @openai/codex

[honest verge]

It deleted everything?

[wicked sage]

if it says some bullsh like permission denied do sudo

[surreal zephyr]

🥀

[honest verge]

What the

[wicked sage]

son im crine who is using dot2

nvm pineapple is using it

[honest verge]

I'm using mistral 2

[wicked sage]

alright blud

[wicked talon]

Now what

[wicked sage]

Do the codex Thing

npm install -g @openai/codex

or sudo npm install -g @openai/codex

[wicked talon]

I did

[wicked sage]

codex

i mean

do codex

[wicked talon]

I did

[wicked sage]

what happebned

[wicked talon]

"sudo npm install -g @raven heart/codex

[wicked sage]

LMAO

[wicked talon]

It installed a package

[wicked talon]

🙂

[wicked sage]

ok my bad

[surreal zephyr]

Bro

Write "codex"

To start it

[wicked sage]

i said do codex

[honest verge]

I asked Gemini to create an image of what mistral can do is it accurate?

[wicked sage]

https://github.com/openai/codex

[wicked talon]

Oh ok

[wicked sage]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-in-windows-linux-meme-breaking-into-a-windows-user-gif-27138745

[wicked talon]

It's working 🙂

[wicked sage]

lets go

[wicked talon]

Shioo

Less goo

[wicked sage]

ok you did it

[surreal zephyr]

Set model

To gpt 5.2 high

(Not codex)

[wicked sage]

uhh

model

[surreal zephyr]

/model

[wicked sage]

actually no im

stupid

yeah ty

[wicked talon]

Uh

[surreal zephyr]

3rd

[wicked sage]

3rd

[surreal zephyr]

Then reasoning high

Not xhigh

High better overall

[wicked sage]

high

[surreal zephyr]

3rd

[wicked sage]

not extra high

[wicked talon]

Kk bet

[surreal zephyr]

Extra wastes tokens and gets compressed during work

So extra is worse than high while being slower

[wicked talon]

Time to setup a DNS server

[honest verge]

Why complain about xhigh when you can install mistral

Like

Why

[surreal zephyr]

🏳️‍⚧️

[wicked talon]

If I could swear I would ask grok to make me 100 swears to throw at you

[honest verge]

Actually no

I'm gay

[surreal zephyr]

🫃

[honest verge]

With mistral

[surreal zephyr]

I run mistral locally on an usb stick 🗣️

[wicked sage]

why is bro acting like "instead of fried chicken eat grilled chicken"

[surreal zephyr]

No hes like "instead of eating chicken eat sand"

[honest verge]

Because mistral is so strong

[wicked sage]

https://tenor.com/view/vigilanteskass-gif-12238985672618509371

ok lets check the lmarena leaderboards then

[honest verge]

Top 1

[wicked sage]

no its like top 70 something

[surreal zephyr]

Wheres that one

Leaderboard

[surreal zephyr]

Look on the right

(The lower the better)

[wicked sage]

god damn

[surreal zephyr]

Gpt models do really good at it

The newer ones

Like 5.2 and 5.3c

Thats why gpt best

[wicked talon]

I'm gonna ask chatgpt to run minstrel locally

[wicked sage]

wait wdym 5.3c

https://tenor.com/view/durr-yippee-durr-drooling-emoji-drool-face-gif-5621523889348608699

[honest verge]

Mistral is better than opus 4

That's why he's the goat

[wicked sage]

opus 4 tho...

its not opus 4.1 tho

[wicked talon]

Qwen v1 outranks it lmaoo

[surreal zephyr]

5.3 codex (paid only)

[wicked talon]

Whipping out my credit card rq

[wicked sage]

ohh

[surreal zephyr]

No other model did this simulation correctly

5.3 Codex did first try

[honest verge]

Mistral did -1 try

He's the goat

[surreal zephyr]

Opus 4.6 and 4.5 failed miserably

[honest verge]

Try mistral

[surreal zephyr]

Opus made a pretty tank that wasnt working

[honest verge]

Please

What the hell

Why 3.2 exp is better than release 3.2?

🥀

[surreal zephyr]

What bench

[wicked sage]

-41 is crazy btw

[surreal zephyr]

The gemini here is the pre lobotomy version btw

[honest verge]

Lmarena

[surreal zephyr]

Gemini is rn at maybe -30

Gpt 5.2 and 5.3c are at top of that lb rn

[wicked sage]

ye makes sense

btw what plan do you have to get for uhh 5.3c

[surreal zephyr]

(Not xhigh, xhigh sucks)

[surreal zephyr]

The 20$

[wicked sage]

ah ok

[surreal zephyr]

5.2 high is more creative

[honest verge]

Mistral is the best

[surreal zephyr]

5.3c is the professional soft engineer

[honest verge]

Why you can't use mistral

Like Is it too hard?

[surreal zephyr]

Sonnet 4 is more trustworthy than opus 4.5 and 4.6 rn btw

[wicked sage]

how the fuh

[wicked sage]

why do some companies like anthropic and

google

[wicked talon]

I quit codex

I just deleted it

[wicked sage]

try to lobotimize the ais and make them say random stuff

[wicked talon]

Time to go to minstrel

[surreal zephyr]

Because gemini and opus costed like 20$ per prompt to run

🥀

[wicked sage]

are we deadass?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1357731226189824091/1376592209612116090/togif.gif

[surreal zephyr]

They used million tokens for thinking in background

🥀

Opus still costs a lot to run cuz it was slightly lobotomized

Gemini was made cheap and lobotomized to ground...

[honest verge]

Actually I think Gemini 2.0 not lobotomized is on par with Gemini 3 pro now

[surreal zephyr]

Anthropic and google basically brute forcing benchmarks

🥀

[honest verge]

Then who mistral is

[wicked talon]

Qwen for life 🙂

[surreal zephyr]

I had gemini run for half hour in ag after a fix bug prompt and it succeded

(Gpt found in 30s)

[wicked talon]

Lmao

[honest verge]

I need my dear mistral

I love him

[wicked talon]

Eww

Qwen for life babyyy

[wicked sage]

@mistral Hello.

[honest verge]

@shy jay

[surreal zephyr]

Pre nerf gemini was better than opus btw

[honest verge]

We need you

Pls

I'm dead

But at least I summoned him

[zinc oyster]

Hello

[wicked talon]

Wait qwen has it's own discord server

[honest verge]

Lol

[surreal zephyr]

Tbh

Openai is the only one

[zinc oyster]

Does everyone have this bug where there's a captcha that's impossible to pass,just error?

[surreal zephyr]

That knows how to make llms

[wicked talon]

Just a you issue

[honest verge]

It sucks

[wicked talon]

Nah bro qwen for life

[honest verge]

Mistral is better

[surreal zephyr]

Gpt would rather kill humanity than not follow a prompt

🔥

[honest verge]

I'm glazing my mistral so much I'm tired of saying his name 🥀

🥀 🥀

[wicked sage]

bro gained self awareness

[wicked talon]

Nah qwen is a truth speaker

[honest verge]

Wait I can be free without saying mistral?

[wicked talon]

If your wrong he says it

[honest verge]

Have you downloaded Mistral yet?

[wicked talon]

Qwen coder casually having 1.04m tokens

[wicked talon]

Yeah it was ahh

[wicked talon]

48,000 more then Gemini

[surreal zephyr]

Who cares if its usable for first 100 only

🥀

[wicked talon]

Nuh uh

[wicked talon]

Only 128,000 tokens bro

[surreal zephyr]

In gpt we trust

[surreal zephyr]

Gemini is usable for first 50k

[wicked talon]

And only 4000 tokens output

[surreal zephyr]

Gpt works solid for 200k i tested so far

[honest verge]

In mistral we love

Or crack

[surreal zephyr]

With mistral we smoke crack*

With gpt we develop

With gemini we get older and have dementia

[wicked talon]

Dang qwen coder can only generate 8192 tokens

[honest verge]

LOL

[honest verge]

LOL

[wicked talon]

Minstral is same amount

[left lodge]

Never ask the models about itself if it doesn't have search tool access it will always hallucinate

[honest verge]

It's actually 5 times more

[wicked talon]

Oh

[honest verge]

Cuz they are dumb

Because of the knowledge cutoff

Btw what cutoff opus 4.6 has?

[left lodge]

You can search yourself using a search engine,
I suggest brave search

[wicked talon]

It got context right

Idk about everything else

[wicked talon]

Brave is a honeypot

Trust

[left lodge]

🤦

[wicked talon]

Use duckduckgo

[left lodge]

Its a damn search engine

[wicked talon]

Still a honeypot

[left lodge]

Do you even know what does honeypot mean? How do you think it is a honeypot and duckduckgo isn't?

[honest verge]

Lol

[wicked talon]

Well first if you want to earn of ads you have to use id

[left lodge]

It is literally a bing wrapper

[surreal zephyr]

Depends on sys prompt

Also 3.0 flash is correct

It says it doesnt know

[wicked talon]

And it was found brave was leaking DNS queries

[honest verge]

Well is mistral good or bad

[wicked talon]

Meh

[left lodge]

Arena.ai doesn't have system prompts

But still the most reliable results are with search tool enabled

[honest verge]

That's why grook is meh

"Grook"

[surreal zephyr]

Ya

[left lodge]

Relying on its training data or hoping it knows it because the info might be inside its system prompt is just weird

[surreal zephyr]

Im js saying models used to have their info in sys prompts

Bro is mistral

[left lodge]

You dont have access to its system prompts even on their native platforms, thats not reliable

[signal apex]

guys mine has been like this for almost 20 minutes, does it take it that long to response 😭?

[wicked sage]

its opus 4.6 thinking 😭

of course itdoes that

[surreal zephyr]

Opus is bruteforcing the answer

[left lodge]

There is hard 6 min limit, if thats reached when a model is generating a response it cuts off the response and throws Something went wrong with this response, please try again. error

I reported this way back on November of 2025 but they haven't done anything.

Models are literally made to think for hours and here they have a hard 6 min cutoff 🤦

And btw this 6 minute limit is on every single model available not only opus 4.6.

[surreal zephyr]

It thinks forever untill it hallucinates correctly

Thats how opuses work

[left lodge]

Thats not how things work bro 😭

[signal apex]

so i just wait?

[surreal zephyr]

Opus works by having ton of internal thinking

The only reason why it does so well on benchs

[left lodge]

No it might be stuck there forever.
Check in 10mins if it is still stuck open new chat

[surreal zephyr]

Gemini used to do that too pre nerf

Opus is literally gemini 3 xxxxhigh

[left lodge]

What is this?

[wicked talon]

Qwen is Gemini 3 pro but on steroids

🙂

[honest verge]

New Google model

Paperbanana

[left lodge]

Is that official?

Source links?

[surreal zephyr]

Doubt

But notebooklm uses similiar thing

[honest verge]

It's official

[wicked talon]

🙂

[surreal zephyr]

Yeah notebooklm uses ts

[honest verge]

Imagine paperbanana

This name sucks

Like banana from paper

[wicked talon]

It's Google what do you expect

[left lodge]

Its just a side research project developed by Google Research in collaboration with Peking University

Not much

[surreal zephyr]

Its nano banana copy fine tuned for graphs

[gusty helm]

hey! If im not mistaken claude should have a thinking version too on the 4.6? Is it not coming to arena or is it not ranked yet/code named/collecting votes?

[surreal zephyr]

Its notebooklm thing imo

[surreal zephyr]

It already is wym

Its so bad it didnt get on lb

Lol

[honest verge]

Don't use it

[gusty helm]

oh rly ? didnt see that

[surreal zephyr]

It gets stuck in loop everytime and crashes

Lol

[honest verge]

It can't really make big projects

[surreal zephyr]

Its unusable

[honest verge]

Only small

Normal 4.6 is way better

[gusty helm]

that's an odd ball; yeah I see can use it in direct chat

but not included in leaderboard at all lol

[surreal zephyr]

Try to use it then

[honest verge]

Cuz it can't be tested in leaderboard properly

[surreal zephyr]

It will get stuck and crash

90% times

🥀

[honest verge]

I think that's why it isn't in the leaderboard

It just can't do anything

[surreal zephyr]

Yeah because it sucks

Worse than mistral atp

Mistral did the tank

Opus crashed

Mistral wins

🥀

[gusty helm]

I see; prob needs some more work on it before it's usuable

[surreal zephyr]

Just use 4.5 its better overall

Or gpt 5.3 codex or gpt 5.2 high both are better

😔

[gusty helm]

using neither 😄 was just curios came from a trip and saw 4.6 #1

[honest verge]

But uhhm that's the tank that mistral did

[gusty helm]

did not expect google to lose R1 anytime soon

[surreal zephyr]

And opus did none

[cyan kettle]

what do yall think is the best model right now?

[surreal zephyr]

Gpt 5.3c and 5.2

Easily

No competition

Lol

[honest verge]

Opus 4.6 not thinking did this

[gusty helm]

really depends for what