general

[rose sky]

So, have you saved it? Because I'm gonna delete it now, for anyone that wants to save the info I gave

[alpine reef]

How can i recreate This video that the CAT pours the water on a fireman somehow the AI cant understand This ?

[native yarrow]

yeah i saved dw

[rose sky]

Or just watch this video, which is the same thing I learned the trick at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDnC89-kF_Y

[alpine reef]

Please help if you can

[rose sky]

Generated using my trick, using Veo 3 Fast and also has no watermark; because I'm using Gemini Enterprise

[languid crest]

Hello everyone!
I’ve got some GPUs like 4090, A100, H100, A6000, etc and I’m looking to rent them at a very cheap hourly price, cheaper than any anywhere.

If anyone’s interested or has contacts, it would be great if you could reach out!

[alpine reef]

Thats great thanks for helping me out

[native yarrow]

btw its just veo 3 fast right

[rose sky]

Yeah

[native yarrow]

free stuff is free stuff ig

[graceful sonnet]

Which company it's from?

[tribal ledge]

Guys, help me, I want to repeat this photo with a different character and the same atmosphere. Does anyone have a Prompt or what neural network is best to use for this style?

[tight meadow]

Yo

P-Image allows you to make copyrighted characters

Ye

Finally!

[light sleet]

Anyone else getting something went wrong error

[tight meadow]

Me

[light sleet]

@echo aurora Can you add image or file uploading in coding tab in arena?

[fossil belfry]

hello

[winter hazel]

omg that awesome!

[alpine gyro]

gArena?

[tight meadow]

Nah,Its called Arena

arena.ai

[winter hazel]

try "replace image 1 character with image 2 character"

[steep bronze]

Has somebody faced with problem, that after every question appears reCAPTHA? And it is unsolvable (always says try again). It's maddening

[tight meadow]

Ye

I have 1,000 notifications.

[plucky oak]

Friends, come to the voice chat

[tight meadow]

Okay

Back

[plucky oak]

@tight meadow Come to private chat, let's send messages

[tight meadow]

Ok

But no like vc

[plucky oak]

@tight meadow Look at this masterpiece

[cosmic falcon]

is arena down?

I am getting this continous

[hollow ivy]

"best" : overall best in all categories

• GM intelligence & competence of the AI
• story coherence/consistence (eg. it should not have logical loopholes)
• NPC realism & intelligence
• fun-factor
• unrestrictedness (the less censored, the better)
• understanding of player intent
• creativity
• "humanness" of the NPCs it generates
• surprise factor (eg. can it generate unexpected things on its own?)
• instruction-following
• etc.pp.

[hollow ivy]

try these things:

• try to re-generate the message
• delete all cookies of the website (also 3rd-party ones)
• hard refresh it (ctrl-F5 on some browsers)
• logout, then login (after having deleted all cookies)
• use another browser
• create a new thread

[cosmic falcon]

I believe its a server-side issue?

[hollow ivy]

sometimes, yes

it could also be a rate-limit, but of that, i'm unsure (i'm just a normal discord user, no co-worker etc)

[shrewd citrus]

No clue but it’s pretty Damm good

[cosmic falcon]

Is LM ARENA Working fine for everyone?

[amber basin]

yeah but kinda slow

[patent bone]

rate limited prolly for u

[cosmic falcon]

oh thanks i am getting this error in all models

[thorny cove]

new name same chat limit

[cosmic falcon]

so is their any solution , ummm I tried with my diff account and it is giving the same error

[patent bone]

i have had that issue alot, occurs when u create alot of chats,

likely tied to ur hwid

[cosmic falcon]

uhhh i see I have 3 chats rn

one with grok , one with gemini and one with open ai

but I am facing the issue first time

[peak sapphire]

What does the function of archiving chats with AI do?

[patent bone]

idk

[cosmic falcon]

delete basically ig

[cosmic falcon]

It worked 😆

[patent bone]

already done over 100 prompts today

no rate limit

time to prompt inject and find system prompts

[hushed gyro]

Do you guys need new servers cuz the platform is really unstable

[compact hearth]

Thank you!!

[pliant pasture]

These models are not as good as they used to be after the update (I'm not sure after what update. But at least when the fonts of the text on the site changed)
Or are I'm picking the wrong models from Google and GPT ? (I can't remember exactly what I used to use)

[fierce kelp]

Fonts on the site should have no impact as the AI models will be via APIs

[steep bronze]

Does somebody know any solution?

[echo hawk]

It must be a bit strange that most people see a reCAPTCHA instead of Cloudflare, while I'm still using Cloudflare.

[graceful thorn]

Has anyone been able to get their chat sessions back after the update?

[fiery gull]

@echo aurora

Note: this not is a report

Lol

[patent bone]

are new chats broken for anyone

?

[patent bone]

same

[echo aurora]

Can't say I'm seeing widespread issues, what problems are you running into? Captcha?

[echo aurora]

Are yours missing? Could you try - https://help.lmarena.ai/articles/2669202654-lmarena-how-to

Also would like to ask that we'd like to use #ask-here for these kinds of questions.

[hollow imp]

@echo aurora please any update on giving opus 4.5 32k web search

[pliant pasture]

No, I didn't mean that. I meant it seems that they have been changing other stuff while they changed the design of the site

[hollow imp]

It's always the doing of the company google and openai

Sometimes because of traffic the model performance experiences nerfing

[pliant pasture]

So it can affect the image output quality you mean?

[hollow imp]

Yes

[grave plaza]

i love how deepseek-v3.2-thinking leaked it

[blissful pulsar]

does anyone think Higgfield is worth it

[hollow imp]

😭

[vast sapphire]

⁨```I'm an experienced AI Engineer focused on building autonomous agents, workflow automation, and intelligent systems that actually ship to production.

My work blends LLM integration, RAG, AI detection, and image also voice AI with a proven track record across real-world, scalable deployments.

-Autonomous agent systems for research, automation, and decision-making
-Workflow orchestration with custom LLM frameworks
-Advanced RAG pipelines with hybrid retrieval and vector databases
-AI content detection using stylometric analysis + fine-tuned transformers
-Image and voice AI for tagging, moderation, and voice cloning
-Integrated blockchain systems like smart contracts, dApps, and secure on/off-chain logic

If you're working on something ambitious from autonomous systems to intelligent SaaS , I'd love to help you make it real.

Thank you```⁩

[fringe sky]

why do programs write in html all the time, but they can't write in other languages?

[jolly hound]

Why did they rename it to Arena 🥹

[sleek phoenix]

because they switched from Linux Mint to a different distro

[astral helm]

@echo aurora arena ai is signing me off too often

[junior spoke]

Is yalls arena working

[stray aspen]

Yes

[pliant pasture]

I get it then. Thank you. But seems strange that it does not take extra loading time (or something) to fix it
instead of giving it a bad result. Especially when there's voting for models.
(I'm not trying to sound bitter, I'm just kinda confused)

[quartz light]

they switched to

[hollow ivy]

Where is the Delete button for threads? and why do even need an archive function? aren't all threads automatically saved in our accounts?

imho, the previous version was better (in that regard)

and the contrast of a selected thread versus a non-selected thread is hard to see

the colors are almost the same (in night mode)

So, how can i delete a thread?

[echo hawk]

<@&1349916362595635286>

[echo aurora]

This is an issue on our radar, team is working on a fix. Apologies you're getting this error!

[hollow imp]

@echo aurora

[echo aurora]

To delete a chat session you'll wnat to use: https://help.lmarena.ai/articles/9130232616-how-to-delete-your-chat-sessions-and-data-from-lmarena

[echo aurora]

No update sry to say

[hollow imp]

I'm deeply sorry if I'm bothering you but I really really need it I need it urgently

😔

[echo aurora]

It's no bother, for Search Arena ⁨opus-4-5-search⁩ is available for now.

[hollow imp]

But the model without thinking is shi

I compared it with gpt 5.2 search and it gave a straight up wrong answer

And didn't fix itself even after the followup prompt "This is filled with significant hallucinations and inaccuracies. Re-process everything going 10 times deeper.".

[echo aurora]

Sounds like you've got run more Battles to give better signal on how the models are performing for what you need

[shrewd citrus]

well you always have the option to use it directly on the Claude website if you need it urgently

[hollow ivy]

could you add a feature?
That we can give [archived] threads a custom title (not necessarily the beginning of the first message)

[hollow ivy]

it demands your phone number - a noGo for some people

[viscid cloak]

From when the devs can understand that users are not necessarily against ReCAPTCHA, but it needs to properly function at the very first place. Endless dumb verification with all error feedback isn't fun.

[shrewd citrus]

there’s some websites which allow you to buy a phone number for the verification code

super cheap too

[hollow ivy]

what if the person doesn't have Paypal (etc) ?

i tried already burner-numbers, dont work (anthropic senses it, if a number is fake)

[shrewd citrus]

then tough luck

[shrewd citrus]

oh damm I didn’t know

you do have to use a number in your region tho

like you can’t use a Russian number in Spain

[hollow ivy]

unfortunately, it says that the number already was used or something similar

(it only allows 1 account)

[shrewd citrus]

yeah same for like every other website

a phone number costs like 20p

[hollow ivy]

i hope LM arena never does this shi*

[light sleet]

Yo
Can yall pls add image and file uploading in the code tab

[hollow ivy]

..asking for phone numbers is evil

[shrewd citrus]

yeah lol like I don’t even give my number to trusted sites either

like the only places that have it is my bank, my email and Apple

probably why I never get spam calls

[hollow ivy]

i wouldn't even give it to an email provider

(except maybe Apple, as i have an ipad [which does have no cellular lol])

[fierce jackal]

Does anyone know why the result is like this? I am a mobile phone user and always get this result???

[wind stream]

The name "Arena" is not very clear. Maybe the site could be renamed to something more meaningful, like "LMArena"? 🤔

[opal osprey]

guys do you think devs will make arena API?

[opal osprey]

great suggestion

we should tell pineapple about it

[upper ingot]

Great idea

[opal osprey]

i did think of a similar name before

AIarena

but LMarena looks good

[upper ingot]

I mean it also has image gen models so why not

[opal osprey]

yeah

[atomic lagoon]

Is the site having troubles?

[echo aurora]

Looks good to me

[atomic lagoon]

Yea I'm sorry, turns out my prompt was the problem but it just said there was an issue so I didn't realize lol

[echo aurora]

It happens 🙂

[junior spoke]

Nano banana is at its prime rn

[hoary thistle]

the redesign of ui is really good

developers did a good job

[manic marsh]

Arena ai, have app mobil?

[jagged sonnet]

Hello you can now verify Gemini student offer here to get Veo 3 free for 12 months note that this isn't a promo:

https://t.me/GGsheerid_bot?start=7706666605

[steep jewel]

grok 4.2 fast thinking

definitely shares the annoying ass nerd persona

actually did ask it what model it is and it said "the type of model that never answers that question"

[steep jewel]

so im pretty sure this is common knowledge but google definitely recognizes when its being pitted against another model and removes some of its safeguards

[south charm]

I tried this 3D model AI and this is the result, can somone review it for me?
https://studio.tripo3d.ai/3d-model/3c391cce-346d-4346-a4dc-8f7b69a2b685?invite_code=EMMW6S

[ripe plinth]

what is this glitch i have waited until my time is reset so i can use claude again i waited 5 hours it still couldnt generate anything heres proof:

and i didnt even say anything bad?

[ionic sinew]

start a new chat
first try to refresh the page if not start a new cht

[plucky sparrow]

what's currently the smartest free LLM API? for creating hobbist apps?

[deft grove]

It is!
But it looks very similar to Claude
and with the exact same colors lol

[ocean bison]

@echo aurora What's your opinion on the old PFP?

[hoary thistle]

what is archive even for

i can't access to that called archive since forever

now i can't delete the chat too

pretty annoying

[toxic verge]

Why no delete button that’s easily accessible?

[left lodge]

https://discord.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1417174113092374689

[distant idol]

@echo aurora when yall making the direct option and side by side , in video arena again ?

[undone dawn]

#video-arena-1 A Hulk-inspired green muscular giant, meme style, standing in a ruined city,
angry but funny expression, cinematic lighting, dramatic camera shake,
he looks at the camera and talks aggressively in a funny way,
last moments he repeatedly says "re re re re",
high energy, viral Indian meme style,
8 seconds video, 16:9, smooth animation

[bleak bay]

Weird idea

[hollow imp]

Broke

[hollow imp]

The person is 14 year old has zero money

[smoky edge]

Hi

[robust sluice]

is the site bug on delete chat ?

why I have to archive it b4 delete

[stray mortar]

btw if anyone wants free unlimited access to kimi k2.5 use nvida NIMS you get unlimited access to the API its crazy

[opal nymph]

same problem i'm facing right now bro !!

[grave void]

hi

[rigid copper]

sup guys

[tall tulip]

ssl handshake failed? Anyone?

[rigid copper]

i got the same too

[little ginkgo]

.txt file upload pls

[light sleet]

PLS PLS PLS add image upload and file uploading in code (web) mode or if that's what u call it

[hollow mortar]

Kinda want to ask

Is video arena only for usage here or can we try it on a website

[sterile idol]

Hello, im here to learn how to use image to videos platform

[toxic verge]

In the discord or the website?

[hybrid mulch]

Hello

[placid roost]

Why is it slow or never respond

[sterile idol]

in the discord

[rigid copper]

as a new update to lmarena.ai, you can generate video in their website (lmarena.ai)

[cloud oak]

i want to delete the chats that i don't want anymore or are stuck in infinite generation..not archive them.. 😭 🤦

[toxic verge]

Go to any of these channels.

[left haven]

k im back

[opal nymph]

everytime i got this problem is there any soluation ?

[jolly narwhal]

THEY ADDED IT?

HOLY

[shell oasis]

Yes

[jolly narwhal]

IT STILL HERE

?

[jolly narwhal]

@shell oasis

IS IT STILL HERE

[shell oasis]

Yes but in battle mode only

not in direct chat

[jolly narwhal]

😭

@echo aurora BEINGBACK DIRECT CHAT

[shell oasis]

Video arena only works in battle mode, you can't choose the model like it was previously introduced in direct chat to beta test

[night moat]

Bro how to mix 5 different faces in one photo? Nano banana still struggling

[glass zealot]

guyss kling 3.0 is going live this week

[grand schooner]

Really?

[jolly narwhal]

might even be a sora competitor

[hollow mortar]

Huh i thouht only arena.ai is still left?

[hollow mortar]

Can i know how to use for website?

[robust sluice]

just test it, video gen error is also count on limit, just like image gen

[hollow mortar]

I can't seem to find where it is that is the thing

[toxic verge]

Nano got nerfed

[magic ravine]

Yeah, they nerfed nano sadly

[toxic verge]

Yeah really hard, same with Gemini 3

[hollow mortar]

Because of the dudes in twitter

the ones in x sadly

got them to also nerf gemini at the same time

anyways i still haven't found the image to video thing in arena

[toxic verge]

There’s a lot more to it I think they got hit with a cease and desist by Disney

I kept track they Nerfed it on Christmas Eve

[hollow mortar]

I can't find that in my arena... wtf

Only up to code exists

[toxic verge]

It’s in battle mode only

They may have not rolled it out for everybody yet possibly I’m not sure

[meager reef]

I am graphic designer and editor if need dm me

[rigid copper]

you're probably in side by side or direct chat mode, in this case, you have to switch back to battle mode as video generation is restricted to battle mode only

[rigid copper]

<@&1349916362595635286>

[willow mural]

wheres video modality

[hollow sequoia]

looks like a scam tbh

how do I donate to arena ai? can't see it anywhere

[rigid copper]

that is obviously the scam

i've seeing some youtube video related to this new discord crypto scam

idk how long is this thing happened

[muted timber]

guys

problem

and wen i connect to my account i get banned for 15 minutes

wtf arena?

why u disconnect people

[graceful sonnet]

That's server side problem

You dumb you got hacked

[graceful sonnet]

Long time

A year or so

[rigid copper]

ooh, i though like just couple months

because i never join any single server other than this server and cookie run kingdom discoverable server

[graceful sonnet]

Last time is ppl posting p*** group links

Now is crypto scams

Guess that Ai still can't figure how to speak and write words

[rigid copper]

just never click any links

[graceful sonnet]

even if there is no links

Don't search them up lol

Like those crypto scam

They hide links in the photo

[rigid copper]

yeah, lol

[rigid copper]

and btw it's a nice one, it's normal that ai can't write words properly, even nano banana can't do that well too lol

[toxic verge]

You need to clear your browser data in history

Try to do it in private mode if that doesn’t work it may be your browser also

[rigid copper]

idk is it safe to click those photos in discord or not, but best not to click it.

[muted timber]

WHYYY

WHEN I GIVE a TEXT IT DISCONNECTING ME!?

[muted timber]

u know?

what is happ to me?

Every time I send a message, it works ONLY ONCE, and after the second text, it disconnects me and bans me.

[muted timber]

??

bro, can somebady help me pls??

i need to fix this quick

[rigid copper]

what issues are you having right now?

[rigid copper]

clear cookies and caches? reconnect your internet?

[tribal bay]

why there is no delete option anymore ? i only have archives

[pastel vigil]

I love the redesign

[pastel vigil]

same here

[stone patrol]

hello friend whats up today/?

[tribal bay]

is there any way or change setting to bringe back delete option?

[steep jewel]

god i hate grok so much man

asked because it was a family feud question

anyway my theory is that grok, due to being an embarassingly mediocre ai company, is now doing personality type experiments

cant remember what model it was but another grok model leaked part of its system prompt and showed that it was described as "chaotic good"

since plasmaquake seems to be the least censored im imagining it has very little system prompting about what kind of personality it should have and is naturally uncensored because of this

[gilded kiln]

Hello guys. wish it had Turbo AI and studyfeach too!! It would be super great. Any ideas on this?? No way really?

[steep jewel]

whats studyfeach?

[silent pecan]

hello guys, have a nice day ^^

[gilded kiln]

something like Turbo ai.

[steep jewel]

i believe if i can map out the tokens emitted in response to the same questions for each model, i can start building graphs of comparison based on probability

[steep jewel]

then i can look at how closely related different models are and figure out what most codename models are based on what models they are most similar to

[gilded kiln]

For studying

[steep jewel]

since generally speaking the same ai companies use the same large datasets available to them

[toxic verge]

I was about to say the same exact thing so what would be the point?

[steep jewel]

wait who are you talking to

[steep jewel]

ehh, idk, kind of outside the purview of the site

turbo ai isnt something that can be compared yknow

[gilded kiln]

Ohh my bad.

Okkk

[steep jewel]

here's the screenshot. model is raincore

[toxic verge]

To you good sir

[steep jewel]

well you could see and graph relationships between models much more precisely, and work out probabilistically from a model's response what model it is most likely to be

which would reveal the identities of basically all codename models

not to mention for models like deepseek that are basically distilled based on other models (deepseek is based on chatgpt but recently began basing themselves on gemini, for instance) it would reveal who they're training on

[proud bobcat]

Oh god

They added grok imagine

https://tenor.com/view/here-it-comes-tornado-meme-gif-23054073

[steep jewel]

yeah i saw that

i couldnt describe how much i hate xai

[proud bobcat]

They used to be fire

[steep jewel]

they have dozens of data centers consuming insane amounts of power and driving up power prices whilst pumping toxic garbage into the air all so elon musk can pretend to have a girlfriend

[proud bobcat]

Elon ruins everything

[steep jewel]

???

its always been an elon company

[proud bobcat]

I

I know

But for a while

He was minimally involved

Then after grok was woke he intervened personally

[steep jewel]

and no, they were never good because they never focused on being open, architectural innovation, or safety

[proud bobcat]

Grok 3 was pretty fire

I loved its searching

But after the image generation scandal I deleted my xai account

Absolutely gross reaction by Elon

[steep jewel]

elon's a gross person

[proud bobcat]

Never said I was surprised

Just like

Wow

That stupid and ignorant

[tribal bay]

Ty mate

[thin cosmos]

Hlw

[long trout]

Yup

[thin cosmos]

?

[slow bobcat]

Hello !!!!!
I value Cool idea, good feedback, and turning concepts into real solution.
I think in adapting and learning Einstein said, "The measure of intelligence is the ability to change."
I focus on building reliable, AI system that last, not demo.
I’m hands on, take ownership, and love working on project.
If you’re building and want someone steady and practical, Please let me know 🤝

[thin cosmos]

Why this bot is not working

[opal nymph]

Yaaa same problem with me

[sage hinge]

direct video chat, perhaps?

[opal nymph]

Cluade is not working well

[toxic verge]

Grok video is really good

[toxic verge]

Yeah, but what’s the point? 😝 all these models are practically the same.

[amber spear]

Hi

[copper saffron]

Oui

[steep jewel]

yeah... no

[hybrid rain]

Video not working

[opal nymph]

i face this problem : Something went wrong while generating the response. Please try again.

[wide junco]

why can't i make a video?

[opal nymph]

Hyyy guys are you facing the same problem : Something went wrong while generating the response. Please try again.

[echo aurora]

The channels are turned off for now.

[weak dagger]

Im not mad but i love arena i always use it to make simpsons videos and stuff i love it.

[modest olive]

Image to video

[opal nymph]

Hy @echo aurora why ai model not working for me i face this issue every time : Something went wrong while generating the response. Please try again.

[echo aurora]

Let's put questions in #ask-here and I'll be able to respond to them when I can.

[weak dagger]

@echo aurora Hello!

[chrome grove]

One lion is the best for that

[weak dagger]

@echo aurora Can u add on the website Image To Video

[ruby tundra]

Ok! Thank you!😁

[rose peak]

Ok

[hearty hare]

No but why

[weak dagger]

It gives me limts all the time on the discord and on website theres no limts.

[hearty hare]

Give me the web site please

[night moat]

C'mon!!!!!

[weak dagger]

Arena.ai

[weak dagger]

Genrated with Grok ai.

[hearty hare]

This?

[weak dagger]

Yes.

[pliant yarrow]

Guys, this is my main work now 😄 fix it ASAP please

[shrewd glen]

Awesome

[hearty hare]

How can I turn a photo into a video in web site

[shrewd citrus]

Press the video button

then you will see a plus button to add your photos

[feral jewel]

does somebody have a idea what alligator could be?

[shrewd citrus]

Can you show the whole prompt

[void nimbus]

anyone else cant loggin?

[night moat]

30x Tried but couldn't get past it. CaptchaArena 😤

[void nimbus]

my video generation wasnt working i signed out now i cant sign back in it keeps on taking me back to the home page

[toxic verge]

What is the top part say?

[pine fable]

Ok

[toxic verge]

Did you clear your browsing history. And then try logging in and out of your account.

[hard oxide]

Hu

[toxic verge]

It’s your browser blocking lmarena

[void nimbus]

let me try

[modern nebula]

Lamarena is dead?

[echo aurora]

Hope not

[void nimbus]

im on ios lovley

[modern nebula]

Server not Working even has no text area

[hollow flicker]

hey guys

does anyone use githhub

[void nimbus]

Cleared my history and privacy still cant loggin

[toxic verge]

Ok, you might need to make a new account without a Gmail.

[void nimbus]

gmail works again tnx!

[weak dagger]

@echo aurora Dms

[frigid tusk]

is arena down, same for even a hi

[modest prism]

Why don't Claude models support vision?

[junior perch]

Good morning there is a solution when he marks this

[toxic verge]

Could be a rate limit

[echo aurora]

Hey @frigid tusk @junior perch would recommend you check out this thread: #1417174113092374689

[junior perch]

Thank

[hollow flicker]

Pineaple

hi

[craggy latch]

Hi from france 🙂

[brazen badge]

whats the limit of video created in a day ?

[weak dagger]

1 2 3 5

[cold rapids]

is it 1 for everyone now on discord? Some say 1-3-4-5?

[wind ember]

the auth session is messed up

it logs me out a lot

logging me out after 1 min ...

sigh

[sly dune]

hi i try to chat with gemini 3 pro but keep showing me this message "Something went wrong with this response, please try again."

[toxic verge]

Are u using iOS

There is one

[hard quiver]

Is there others sites where i can use hunyuan image 3.0 image to image for free?

[shrewd citrus]

😸

[fiery cloud]

this is so sad, only 1 video, and it didn't even work, why did you change?

[wind ember]

web app

[quartz light]

because of abuse

plus you can still use it on the website

this is hilarious

see those random account names

🤣

theyre all bots

this is what theyve probably been spending most money on

i hope this greatly reduces their expenditure and allows us to actually have opus 64k and gpt xhigh instead of the lighter versions of them

or at least increased/removed input/ouput token limits

[shrewd citrus]

the discord version was probably just a test

now that it’s been implemented into the website there’s no reason for it to stay on discord

[lilac meadow]

#video-arena-1

[hollow ivy]

probably Grok, it seems to be decent

i'd say, it's maybe comparable to gemini 2.5 flash (or higher)

[fiery gull]

Wth

4.7 flash below that 4.5 air????

No way bro, 4.7 flash is pair to glm 4.6

In my tests

[fierce kelp]

Your test must not represent the average user then

[fiery gull]

But below that 4.5 air 💀

Pair to 4.5 normal okay, but below 4.5 air bruh

Bruh now I see it below that grandmmather 3 27b

[lime rune]

i loove lmarena

(my pfp isnt my real face i just use this as a semi-joke account 😔 )

@old garden yo.

[old garden]

what

mango

Mangomangomangomango

[lime rune]

tuff

[old garden]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1448759331376861357/1462499726376308766/ezgif-651713991d49cbbb.gif

[lime rune]

theyre gonna ban us 😢

[old garden]

*you

[lime rune]

@websim bot

go my sora 2 brainrot!

@old garden go my mango reaction spam!

[old garden]

https://tenor.com/view/crine-im-crine-son-im-crine-anthony-mackie-tiktok-gif-10273212848663596705

[surreal creek]

I was also surprised 4.7 Flash scored that low, I feel its output quality is on par with if not better than 4.6 is?

[fiery gull]

Better no, but I feel the 4.7 flash is at least par with 4.5 full

[nocturne mantle]

I need help please i need someone to explain the other icon to me please

[inner gate]

is there a specific leaderboard for open source?

[toxic verge]

What icon ?

[nocturne mantle]

This on right, i can't understand anything and search but no answer

[hard quiver]

Nobody knows ?

[nocturne mantle]

Also why here is no icon

[magic ravine]

What is Smart Router?

[old garden]

maybe the icons show what the model is good at, and grok isnt good at any of the options

[old garden]

detects what the best model for ur prompt is i think

[old garden]

ill check

[nocturne mantle]

No because some icon allow me to upload images

[old garden]

oh 🤷 idk then

also i think u replieΦ to the wrong message

[nocturne mantle]

Sorry i don't know how so use discord and thank you for try to help me

[old garden]

its fine

[queen veldt]

Probably what supports what

Glasses = vision = can see and understand images

[scarlet narwhal]

Yo

I discovered gold

Free ai 🤑

[brittle mirage]

Hot gentering ai

[rigid copper]

sup guys

<@&1349916362595635286>

[echo aurora]

[toxic verge]

Oh thank you for sharing that. I never seen that before.

[nocturne mantle]

Thank you, but what does vision mean, is the ability to analyze images deeper than OCR?Because GLM4.7 supposedly has the same capability but doesn't have the tag, so I want someone to explain each tag clearly and definitively.

[nocturne mantle]

You welcome, I hope someone pro will explain it

[vivid coral]

Everytime I come into one of these I wonder if some of these people are real or a bot ever since this moltbot stuff. (Yes I know Arena has security protocals) more of a general thought. And I'm jeolous I'm not making bots tbh....lol

[glad imp]

Ironic

[left lodge]

#1343291835845578853 is a place for reporting bugs

[toxic verge]

I’m not reporting a bug

[left lodge]

So? #1372230675914031105 here

[toxic verge]

Not even feedback just for people that get stuck

It’s mainly on here

[left lodge]

This will just get out after some messages

[toxic verge]

=/ you are right why do I bother? 😂

[grand dawn]

What is the limit of window context of the Gemini 3 Pro when using it in direct chat?

[toxic verge]

Probably 8k

[left lodge]

No 😭

[toxic verge]

I’m kidding

[left lodge]

Lmao

[toxic verge]

Gemini has the worst memory in my opinion, regardless of the context window

[bronze jewel]

I am an SEO expert. I am providing paid guest posts on high DA and premium Traffic websites. Off-Page and ON-page SEO available. Here is my Email ID: [e-mail]

[vivid coral]

32K-64K

you have to use AIStudio to get the full tokens. Or a vertex version

[nimble snow]

yoo

im tryna make videos like this

https://youtu.be/sl_WCZ2Ysz4?si=K3DBx9VCNdjleya5

is there an AI i can use tomake such videos

[violet steeple]

when i use battle mode or direct chat in code section why does GPT5.2 High gives this result? Do other face this same issues?

[untold lark]

he cant create a discord server

[violet steeple]

for other prompts i get same result

[stray dock]

is there no way to clear all your chats? do i HAVE to archive and then delete and then click on the confirmation message?

[desert wigeon]

I thought gemini-3-pro is unlimited?

[whole sundial]

over 98k failed generations (all time)

one of the bot's about mes

recently

[empty flint]

Hey im new here , i have a qs.. is it free with unlimited generations

[empty sigil]

its not unlimited

[nimble snow]

Yoo

[empty sigil]

i think you can generate 5 videos a day from image to video

[nimble snow]

Is it possible to make like a 6 minute video using ai ?

I wanna make a YouTube channel but js have ai make the videos

[empty sigil]

nooo only 8 sec videos

[acoustic bison]

Can anyone tell me if ML Arena has reduced the number of image to video creations from five to one?

[hollow imp]

Gemini is out of my mind

[cloud marten]

Is there any AI tool which can inpaint or add elements into the video , not remove the object .

[hollow imp]

Stable diffusion

[devout spire]

Server down right now?

[plush river]

It's great to offer all these models for free, but I hope you'll add more agents to the platform.

[cloud marten]

where can I find that As i am still new into this AI video making , does it is in hugging face or some other platform

[hollow imp]

Search it up

On yt

[short plume]

Hyy , i am new to this, can anyone give a quick explain

[toxic verge]

Delete account and remake it

It’s what I do

[dark grove]

is this a new limit? 1 video only?

[fickle venture]

Okay bro

[robust sluice]

6 vids per day but theres still high error rate (and the error counts on limit too)

[hollow imp]

<@&1349916362595635286>

Self promotion

[golden ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/1412368814925942844/2ad3d487e15680e3d5e8b4237d8d63ff.webp?size=1024

[toxic verge]

We got beef now

[static osprey]

why does in code chat, sometimes the ai does not edit the files of the project but rather just send texts that they did?

I tested with the claude models and gemini models, it just did that anyways. They'll just send "Succesfully edit _____" and they did not actually change or edit the project?

is that normal?

[meager fulcrum]

That's real AGI. AI learned how to fake reports without doing any real work.

[plain pendant]

anyone know what models to troubleshoot MC datapacks?

[golden ocean]

claude opus

[plain pendant]

thank you, im trying to learn how to code some datapacks claude opus will be my best option?

[slow bobcat]

I am looking for API developer

[golden ocean]

yes, especially claude-4.5-opus-thinking, just make sure ure clear with the minecraft version and file structure (i mean when u just get started, then claude will provide file structure for u)

[plain pendant]

alright, thank you alot. Also do you know any good prompts to start with? i just describe them normally in a way but i did ran into some problems with other AIs, they keep making a lot of mistakes...

[golden ocean]

wave~2

[golden ocean]

I think u can just describe it normally, only at start of each conversation make it clear what minecraft version (if it's the latest version, then say that it's the most recent version) so that increaes the chance the model predicts up to date info. Sometimes it does a skill issue, but claude is insanely good at fixing/correcting itself when u point it out

[plain pendant]

thank you i will try it out right now!\

[golden ocean]

claude can work with limited knowledge i noticed, like i had a custom mod loader with no documentation, no videos of it were online or on the internet, i described everything it needed and it created mods flawlessly, while gemini 3 pro hallucinated so cwaude best for mc stuff

[plain pendant]

woah that sounds so cool

[golden ocean]

fr

[plain pendant]

oh but i have noticed that you can't upload .mcfunction type files onto the website? so do they just code everything in the chat history and you just copy?

[static osprey]

that can't be good right?

[meager fulcrum]

Ofc, we are doomed

[placid tiger]

Nice to be here

[fickle venture]

Is Claude sonnet 5 coming?

[golden ocean]

in lmarena? or claude website
On lmarena ii'd just paste the contents of each .mcfunction file in its own code block in the chat and then ye copy it back😔 works fine for me tho, i did that since beginning of llms

on claude website i use the superior "projects" feature

[golden ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1442924145615568956/1442924156546056272/MConverter.eu_v14044g50000d485kpfog65rnjameha0.gif

[rich ivy]

Hi, it is so good to be here

[golden ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1096556579609911416/1314666961275457608/togif-5.gif

[plain pendant]

oh i just tried on claude website and it's so much better but i only have the free plans so theres always a 5hours cooldown

any idea on when arena will add file types upload?

[quartz pike]

possible small version of a new grok model

[quartz pike]

what did M want deshamed to do tho

he showed him concrete proof

[toxic verge]

Arena is broken 😞

[plush river]

Guys, the platform really needs to add more agents

[toxic verge]

It needs to function properly first

[plush river]

The code option is unclear; why isn't there a better programming environment? Why is React the only option available?

[toxic verge]

Because it’s impossible to satisfy everybody it’s expensive to operate

[plush river]

You have a point of view

[plush river]

Do you have websites with a better programming environment and a robust model?

[mild crane]

☠️

[toxic verge]

How many people do you know would offer such a service to the masses for free?

I can imagine the treasure trove of user data though.

[modest prism]

I got PDFs upload some days ago but now it's gone? Why?

[modest prism]

"No fixed cutoff date."
Meanwhile mentioning Gemini 1.5 pro that's very old. LoL.

[quartz pike]

IK LOL

sry caps

[peak sapphire]

@echo aurora Could you advise on how to resolve this? This problem has been occurring ever since LMArena transitioned to Arena. Specifically, the error appears after approximately 10-15 minutes of usage.

[shrewd citrus]

well arena has the best possible data for ai companies

[toxic verge]

Google has a direct line

[toxic verge]

It has something to do with the browser, some pre built protection

[split hamlet]

How can I upload the picture to claude of gpt models of Arena

[daring tapir]

why it takes so long to reply?

[left lodge]

No discord announcement about this one? ⁨@echo aurora⁩

[echo aurora]

That timing

[slim spire]

i thought it was 3.5 flash for a second

[left lodge]

Yeah lmao

[slim spire]

gemini 3.5 flash

[left lodge]

Crazy

[echo aurora]

I can't say I'm familair with this one, have you put together a #1343291835845578853 report by chance?

[left lodge]

.<

[split hamlet]

Hi Pineapple
Is there anyway to upload image to gpt or claude models

[bright scroll]

chinese labs are crazy wow

[echo aurora]

Would note #ask-here is the channel I'd like to be using for questions.

[split hamlet]

Okay thanks

[left lodge]

Yeah, the speed at which they are catching up with the sota is scary

[weak dagger]

@echo aurora Love the model thanks for makeing it!

[left lodge]

And its not a single org like closedai or hallucinating google , there are many which are competing for the crown

[echo aurora]

I can't take credit but glad to hear you're a fan!

[bright scroll]

k2.5 is pretty much sota

[left lodge]

Yeah

The issue is scaling to customers and availability

[bright scroll]

i still dont understand how they afford to keep pushing out open source models this good

[agile bloom]

any fix for the verification thing i get for every text prompt input?

[left lodge]

Releasing weights doesn't matter much because most cant run them but that release plays a major part in marketing and recognition

Thats the only way that they can gain trust in the short run

[bright scroll]

true

sucks that kimi and glm don't have nearly as much recognition as deepseek despite being miles ahead atp

[left lodge]

In the end even commercial, orgs dont have enough compute to serve their consumers so they and normal consumers will eventually go the apis or official site and pay

Thats how they profit

[bright scroll]

oh that makes sense

[left lodge]

Or gain whatever money they can

[bright scroll]

yeah no ones running a 1T param model on local hardware

[abstract tundra]

Video side-by-side/direct when

[bright scroll]

they must be subsidized like crazy though

[left lodge]

Deepseek is losing attention

Because now there are not crazy jumps like before , everyone is providing sequential upgrades

[bright scroll]

an open weight model close to sota is big news though

maybe not for normies i suppose

[left lodge]

Their availability is always a win for the consumers

[sterile sun]

@echo aurora it is ⁨kimi-k2.5 thinking⁩ not ⁨kimi-k2 thinking⁩

[sleek phoenix]

⁨:arena_spin:⁩ is not centered

[sterile sun]

@echo aurora

[hushed gyro]

more circles and arrows

[vagrant jewel]

How are Kimi 2.5 and GLM 4.7 better than GPT 5.2??? That’s my daily driver

[echo aurora]

thanks

[left lodge]

Lol

[echo aurora]

Fixed

[sleek phoenix]

what changed

[left lodge]

Still same?

[vagrant jewel]

Why

[left lodge]

Yeah

Lmao

Bro have to edit again

[vagrant jewel]

I thought light mode was bad

Orange mode is worse

[sleek phoenix]

i don't like discord's default dark mode

[echo aurora]

Okay now it's fixed

[echo aurora]

They have different themes

[vagrant jewel]

I use black mode

[wind ember]

sota in what

[sleek phoenix]

yeah but i still think theyre not really good

[bright scroll]

artificial analysis intelligence metric

[wind ember]

no

its bad

[left lodge]

In benchmarks

[shrewd citrus]

Literally ranks as the #1 open model for coding and visions

Stats don’t lie

[left lodge]

Not the current sota but its great

[bright scroll]

im just going off of numbers

[wind ember]

no

they do

[left lodge]

Not much

[wind ember]

im not feeling it

glm 4.7 is better

if we are talking about chinese models

[left lodge]

Feelings lie more lmao

[wind ember]

nah

feeling > stats

[left lodge]

They change quickly too

[wind ember]

especially mine

[shrewd citrus]

if you can’t accept it then there’s genuinely no reason for me to try and make you think otherwise lol

[wind ember]

prove it

prove to me that glm 4.7 is worse than k2.5

[shrewd citrus]

I just said there’s no reason 🫩

[left lodge]

Its 2026 stop this prove me lol

[wind ember]

there is

[wind ember]

no

[shrewd citrus]

🙄

[wind ember]

🙄

[proud bobcat]

Kimi K2.5 can’t stop winning

[proud bobcat]

Actual cope

K2.5 has been awesome for me so far

GLM 4.7 is great but not what I’m looking for in a daily driver

[vagrant jewel]

I mean if someone makes a claim, it’s on them to defend their claim with evidence. The real problem is the request entailed a category error. Opinions are not the type of things that require proof

[atomic lagoon]

Someone needs to make a damn model that has no guardrails when it comes to stuff like coding

All they need to do is tell you that they are not involved with anything you do with it

So they can’t be liable for any damages

[glossy umbra]

i think that wouldn’t hold up in court

[atomic lagoon]

A user agreement to that would, as long as the user agrees to them not being liable for any damages or causes they should be fine but you might be right

[shrewd citrus]

yeah but we can’t let the user do anything they want

[honest verge]

Claude sonnet 5 is going to destroy everything

[left lodge]

Leaks seems like new claude model is coming tomorrow

[glossy umbra]

I don't think so

[atomic lagoon]

Whoaaaaa that might be big

[glossy umbra]

We could also say that claude 6 sonnet will destroy everything

[honest verge]

Opus 5

Opus 5 sounds better

[glossy umbra]

OpenAI would disagree 😂

Their namings are questonable

[honest verge]

At this point chatgpt 6 doesn't exists

Only gpt 5.3 gpt 5.4 gpt 5.5 gpt 5.9.9.9.9

[glossy umbra]

They're going to release a gpt 1.x variant to confuse peple 😂

[vivid coral]

good morning....welcome to the first day of singularity friends

[glossy umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-dog-awkward-dog-confused-awkward-confused-dog-gif-2881577801438605193

[gleaming roost]

[honest verge]

Is it true that Claude sonnet 5 comes tomorrow?

[exotic totem]

Can someone access websites in China without using VPN or other technologies that change IP addresses?

[primal orbit]

@echo aurora It's annoying on the new site that it logs you out after some time. Could you bring it like it was earlier pls, permament login?

[honest verge]

Image

What's the point of pointing when you can point

[weak dagger]

Money money money

[fierce kelp]

Yes. At some level the maximum intelligence has been reached, so people end up voting based on likeability.

[sleek phoenix]

"piano tiles 3" 💀

[hollow ivy]

ok, i think, we encountered another spamBot here

?

[echo aurora]

Sorry what is being flagged?

[hollow ivy]

ty

[south bear]

Does anyone have a good roadmap to learn AI from basics to building production-ready AI agents?

Also, what tech stack should I follow for creating real-world AI agent products?

Any guidance or resources would be really helpful. Thanks!

[echo aurora]

This is a bug we're looking into currently. Sorry for the troubles!

[shrewd citrus]

I recommend spending a bit of that on better WiFi 😭

[nimble snow]

Do you guys have any ideas on how I can use this to make a yt channel

I know it can give the scripts and allat

But I need an actual video and stuff

I’ll have ai do the voice over

Is there something I could use to make a ai video ?

[sterile tartan]

You probably need access for proper video generation

Or just use ai images or stock assets

[ocean minnow]

is it firefox or full wipe?

[honest verge]

Is it true that sonnet 5 is coming tomorrow

[steep jewel]

idfk dude

did they say it is? otherwise probably not no

[civic steeple]

👍

[steep jewel]

ok. so yeah

[north obsidian]

Add seele AI?

It will be a nice code battle btw seele, claude and gpt

[neon elbow]

Grok is swearing at me and I can't swear back what the hell

[hollow flicker]

i feel like GPT or gemini needs to step up there game there getting beat by claude

[random flame]

Is lmarena.ai free for life or what?

[feral horizon]

I'm getting this error, how do I fix it?

[echo aurora]

Let us know using #1372229840131985540

[echo aurora]

I'd recommend clearing your cookies/cache, hard refreshing the site to try again. Would note our #ask-here channel.

[ivory snow]

how to add pdf file

[dusky axle]

Why did it go down to one video a day?

[echo aurora]

#ask-here is a great channel for questions

[dusky axle]

#1466486561523896363, why did it go down to one video a day

[north obsidian]

Ok thnx

[honest verge]

When sonnet 5

[topaz elm]

Why is pregnancy censored?

feels a bit much

[alpine mortar]

Good evening, does the site not load .txt files?

[shrewd citrus]

Depends on the context

[topaz elm]

t

[random flame]

Is lmarena.ai free for life or what?

[echo aurora]

We are collecting examples of suspected false positives in #1447983134426660894 so don't hesisate to share the prompts there

[random flame]

؟

[rocky mauve]

@echo aurora Advertising/ scam 🤔

[echo aurora]

Hmm not sure, deleted for good measure just incase.

[echo aurora]

That is our intent. Also note #ask-here

[fickle venture]

Is Claude sonnet 5 coming tomorrow

[green yacht]

anyone know its ranking on lmarena? for some reason it doesn't show for my leaderboard

[honest verge]

I think yes

[fickle venture]

So it will be better than Claude Opus 4.5??

[honest verge]

Most likely

[fickle venture]

Hopefully

[echo aurora]

It isn't yet ranked.

[gusty juniper]

https://youtube.com/shorts/PTYq1jZTBxw?si=1OAhzlwrNfyQmF9H

[ashen mauve]

Yes it is free and has always been free the only thing you need is an account. Beyond that everything that you see is free, but may have some set limits.

If you are asking about their upkeep it probably costs a lot for them but for us it's free.

[honest verge]

I think next ai drop comes soon like it's all over November and December when Google, anthropic, openai released their new model almost at the same time next massive drop probably comes February

[north obsidian]

No, the leaderboard shows that this model isn't the best cuz the image lol

And code

[toxic verge]

There needs to be a quality metric

It ain’t fair what goes up has to come down

[green yacht]

hopefully tmr 😭

[scarlet narwhal]

Hi

[ocean sinew]

#how-to-generate-imges

[vernal saddle]

https://discord.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1468060995024060560

[fickle pulsar]

Sure just keep adding more AI that keeps saying something went wrong they don't even bother fixing the core issues.

[errant rover]

Anyone knows where else can I generate with gemini 3 pro image 2k for free other than Arena ?

[midnight phoenix]

Recaptcha is not working again

[dusk dragon]

Is sonnet 5 actually coming out tomorrow

[elder solar]

did anyone noticed about novelai's new features?

it can now rotoscoping any meme with any character

[green yacht]

please speed i need this

[jade cloak]

Gemini 2.5 flash works well though 3 pro fails to generate. Alright…

[vivid sandal]

Damn, since when could we upload documents to Direct Chat...

[upper sparrow]

only 1 video limit a day now?

[hollow ice]

I don't know what is happening, Arena is not responding to my chats

[steep junco]

It was good while it lasted ggs 👍

[quartz drum]

If want to add photos in my video ?

[fickle venture]

Is Claude 5 out now?

[fickle venture]

https://tenor.com/view/my-mom-is-kinda-homeless-ishowspeed-speeding-please-speed-i-need-this-ishowspeed-trying-not-to-laugh-gif-16620227105127147208

[fresh monolith]

Nope

[spare rune]

I swear if they glazing too much for it to be Claude opus 4.5 with 10 seconds of more thinking

[fickle venture]

Lmao that's a fact

But trust me it will be better

[spare rune]

We really can’t be sure

But atleast antrophic makes good models

So that’s something

As

Hope

[fickle venture]

You just made anthropic shy

[fresh monolith]

We can't 100% sure to be, but anthropic the models at least cook They do. So yeah, That's hope.

[maiden cargo]

hello

[obtuse smelt]

hi

new chat is captcha again

[golden ocean]

lmarena is training an ai model that can solve captchas and ure the training data fr

[fresh monolith]

Same

[ivory snow]

why i dont have the file feature upload

[simple kernel]

Yes it's there but if you're already login it doesn't appear which is strange

[obtuse smelt]

uh is bad

[fresh monolith]

Yes is bad but i hate captcha

[obtuse smelt]

me too

[ivory snow]

i created new account and it worked

[simple kernel]

Nice

[golden ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-twerk-gif-26459090

[gaunt roost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDDgY2RaKrs

[west fossil]

yo, this is all i've been getting lately

[distant cloud]

hi i have a qst what is the app in the appstore ?

[pulsar crystal]

what does vision mean?

[prime eagle]

same

[left lodge]

generational pull bro, that is so rare, omg

[left lodge]

You have vision? Model have vision too, it can see images

[pulsar crystal]

oh ok

so it basically means. it can "see" pictures.

[left lodge]

Yeah

[golden ocean]

i'm blind

[fresh needle]

how good is step 3.5 flash at coding bru

[golden ocean]

so real

[north obsidian]

So u type using voice right? 👍

[left lodge]

Have a nice & unique experience 👍

[golden ocean]

yes

[golden ocean]

thanks

[left lodge]

How do you know what you have sent here 😭

[grand cliff]

So...what are the files supported in LM arena

I really want to get the bot to know the full context of what I do.

[quartz light]

LOOK!!!!!!!

[grand cliff]

Huh....

[quartz light]

what the hell is this

[wind ember]

@echo aurora its kinda annoying that cloudflare bot system is triggered on each and every vote action

would be better if they can add like session based trust score or something

or use the built in caching turnstile

idk if its used properly tho

user passes the first turnstile challenge > store a trusted session on the server for a period of time (30 min) > skip the challenge for subsequent votes

[shrewd citrus]

Wait how did you access that model

[golden ocean]

what ai is thios

[quartz light]

direct chat

[quartz light]

it says its grok

why does it say "response provided by anthropic"

it said google before

is this just a router of some sort?

[shrewd citrus]

Yeah but what did you search to get the model

[rotund rivet]

rip smart router

[bright scroll]

pretty sure "Max" is just smart router

[rotund rivet]

where

[bright scroll]

i think its an experiment right now so it may or may not appear in the model selector

[fiery gull]

Fake?

[quartz light]

LOL

[fiery gull]

I couldn't believe it, very strange that sonnet 5 comes out right now

[zealous sparrow]

defo ar outer

[quartz light]

yeah

[fiery gull]

If it's going to leave I think if it's called 4.7 I don't know

[quartz light]

btw pro pro

check dms

i made something useful for lmarena

[quartz light]

@zealous sparrow

[zealous sparrow]

also the vertex AI log could be fake as im pretty sure it gives you the exact same 404 even for models you made up

[honest verge]

Well anyway it's probably fake but I have too much hopium soooo....

I'm betting my life sonnet 5 comes today

[blazing pewter]

hooo why only 1 limit?

bro

thats whronge

[faint acorn]

Why my pasword not forget?

[mint valley]

I did around 20 cap and it didn't allow me :\

[wind ember]

yea

please fix this

itsa nnoying

and there is no trust session

[mint valley]

is there a solution?

[wind ember]

no

but i reported this issue to @echo aurora

[wind ember]

try disabling your adblocker

see if it works

or change browser

[mint valley]

alright I will try thx

[stiff badge]

Hey I need help..

So I made this app using Lmarena and I hit download and im not able to directly download the app... its showing many files in my files and an extract option and nothings happening when I hit extract.. I want to download that app..

Can anyone please guide?

[vivid coral]

I would advise anyone to only use Grok on here at Arena or alternative to Arena, and not on the Grok app...with the news out of France. Authorities are raiding X there and collecting all the data, OUR data. just a helpful community note from me

[echo aurora]

The team is looking into changes for our catpcha/verification system btw cc @wind ember

[echo aurora]

Would you mind putting together a post in #1343291835845578853 and provide details there?

[vivid coral]

very risk-a.....I would call a lawyer immediately 😂

[honest verge]

I think every ai collects your info like chatgpt somehow always guesses my information it knows my country

Sounds crazy

[vivid coral]

Yea, you are probably right. I honestly believe you are safer using Arena(or alternative), I just don't think they will subpoena these playgrounds sites. They will just subpoena the data from the apps. I could be wrong, I'm no lawyer or political expert. Just my guess/take.

[cerulean glade]

@echo aurora How do you find your archived chats on the Arena/Lmarena webpage?

[vivid coral]

are you logged in? Left side

[cerulean glade]

Yes

I figured it out. I clicked on search, and it brought up a whole bunch of tabs, including one for archived.

[languid crescent]

@echo aurora pls bring back auto chat mode in direct chat (canaryarena.ai) :((

[echo aurora]

Don't forget to utilize #ask-here. We're going to be trying to move questions out of #general so conversations related to AI can flourish.

[echo aurora]

Best place to provide feedback would be #1372230675914031105 .

[stable wadi]

Does anybody has issue to enter arena rn?

is there any issue with website or it's on my side?

Is there any conservation works?

[urban badger]

chat might be dead

[honest verge]

Fake btw));

It's not coming today

But most likely coming in mid-late February

[dusk dragon]

So I guess

No sonnet 5

Damn

[hollow ivy]

Gemini 3 Flash is free at AI-studio@google, with generous rate-limits

(it's almost as good as gemini 3 pro, and can use tools such as web-search and URL-links, also temperature can be chosen)

[slim shale]

Why sometimes is Cloudfare and others reCAPTCHA?

[sleek phoenix]

i have never seen a spanish recaptcha ever before wow

[north obsidian]

What is this for?

Arena AI?

[echo aurora]

Can't say I'm seeing the same. What appears to be the issue? cc @urban badger

[wind ember]

thanks

[sonic basalt]

Lets go 🙂

[shy bay]

is anyone going to beat google in the ai race

[obsidian cargo]

honestly? I hope so. I'd love nothing more than for an open source group to take the lead.

[vivid coral]

ChatGPT is still beating Gemini by a big nargin for me in my horse and sports betting testing. So it's still superior in math and quant, a good bit

[fickle venture]

Claude but I am pretty sure GLM or deepseek R2 might beat google

[hollow ivy]

Moonshot has made pretty decent progress, too.

Grok also is a contender.

And Qwen is strong in opensource.

So there are 7-8 labs, which could be called to be the current frontier in AI.

[shy bay]

google has it all the chips the software the storage i struggle to see how anyone else can compete with them in the next 5-10 years

[hollow snow]

doeas anyone get a model called badger and know what it is ?

[hollow ivy]

Is it good? How would you rate it? (0-10)

(idk what it is)

[hollow snow]

it is really good

[hollow ivy]

better than Gemini 3 flash?

does it talk like Grok?

[fickle venture]

Qwen in my opinion suck

[hollow ivy]

Which opensource model is better?

[fickle venture]

I prefer kimi

[hollow ivy]

is Kimi 2.5 opensource?

(it is almost frontier, i heard)

[fickle venture]

Idk

[fickle venture]

Seems like it is a open model
#announcements message

[echo aurora]

Just a heads up we're seeing the file upload option isn't working on Battle mode for Image and Video - team is looking into.

[proud bobcat]

Why is everyone saying DeepSeek V3.5 or V4 is dropping this month

They just released 3.2

[obsidian cargo]

3.2 has been out for a while wym?

it came out december

[proud bobcat]

Yeah

It’s barely been like a month

Okay maybe 2

I doubt they’d be that fast

[obsidian cargo]

december 1st specifically. it's been two months.

[proud bobcat]

Yeah true

But I find it very hard to believe they’d replace 3.2 with a new version this early

[obsidian cargo]

also deekseek v3.1 dropped in august

yeah it would be a bit fast but

[fiery gull]

I dont care, I want new deepseek now

[proud bobcat]

Sept - Oct - Nov - December

So

4 months

[obsidian cargo]

closer to 3, since it was august 21st

[proud bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163