general

[pallid crypt]

you need to switch to image mode in the chat

otherwise you only get text models

[slender badger]

mean?

[pallid crypt]

ig the extra reaction was uneeded sorry I hope the image mode works for you

[zinc moat]

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL ! 🙂

[dusky ravine]

Hi, do u guys face issues like doing reCAPTCHA per generation? or is it feature? or it's a bug?

[onyx forge]

Same

[dusky ravine]

does it buggy? like even when you choose the right pict, the bot still think that u got it wrong?

[onyx forge]

No

[grave rivet]

is this an errors ?

[slender badger]

Got it working now, thanks a lot for pointing me to image mode.

[slender badger]

yes got the same thing when tried to log in with google directly

[grave rivet]

any solution so solve this problems ?

with this page I am also cannot log out

[slender badger]

it's from their server side if you are creating account you could use a different email account in my case i used proton email and it worked

[slender badger]

just clear cache and cookies

[dusky ravine]

do you guys know?

[grave rivet]

proton email is it good for use ? for free email is only entitle for 1GB space

[slender badger]

actually i dont use it often i just tried using that email and it worked, you could wait a bit though it should be fixed soon

[grave rivet]

I shall wait a bit for your fixing this errors.

[slender badger]

its a bug, actually just a messed up security feature

[weary galleon]

<@&1349916362595635286> The same spam in every single channel.

[robust sluice]

that happen when I spam it a lot

when I test something just like.... I always got 2 slot of Flux in Battle, so I keep on generating something random (to see that Flux really has too much drop rate), then recaptcha popup in every time I prompt it

[modest prism]

Turn off any VPN and proxy so your IP isn't suspicious to captcha system

[dusky ravine]

I think i did the same, i was making report with A.I and use lot of words and lot of generation.

what do you think should i do? Im not using VPN and Proxy or whatever

btw cute profile pict bro

[marsh condor]

Help

[rigid copper]

sup guys

[rigid copper]

i guess that is a feature, to prevent any sort of spam and abuse? Although i get recaptcha verifications occasionally, but not that often,

[dusky ravine]

ig if u use it too much or too fast it might consider as a spam?

[dusky ravine]

wazzup

<@&1349916362595635286> spam

[pallid crypt]

yeah ban this guy

[obtuse smelt]

oh man spam

Something went wrong with this response, please try again.
is again ?

[echo aurora]

Can’t say I’m familiar of this happening. Do you have examples you can share?

[obtuse smelt]

hi

[limpid compass]

Anyone having problems with gemini 3 - nano banana pro? (both regular and 2k?) not working for me right now

[uneven venture]

same brother same

[obtuse smelt]

me too

[robust sluice]

if the recaptcha works fine, like you can answer and pass it I think thats normal and that happen on our action (just wait for hours and its back to normal)

but if you stuck on a loop and cannot get pass recaptcha thats a bug

for me I turn off all adblock on LMA site and this bug gone

[obtuse smelt]

well obth are error

[robust sluice]

Gemini is nice but so high error rate

[candid bison]

how do I view previous results in my history please??

[noble mesa]

hi

[split drum]

Hi

[latent crest]

Merry Christmas everyone !!! Merry Christmas to the hard worker @somber sapphire too

[weary galleon]

Same.

[glossy umbra]

Wrong pineapple, you meant @echo aurora

There are lots of pineapples. Our admin pineapple is juicier than any other. 😉 because he works the hardest

[drifting crow]

its probably taking the day off for christmas

[abstract tundra]

is there a way to make an llm think longer? I'm thinking the way to do this is simply trying to figure out for each llm what its internal name is for the thought blocks and telling it to use way more of those blocks (eg. python, thought, etc)
is there a way to find out? eg. for grok or ernie

[robust sluice]

its like Gemini works 20% all the time on LMA (80% is error)

never seen its fix since I found this site

[obtuse smelt]

yeah

yeah us work again is nano banana

[weary galleon]

Yeah

[obtuse smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/merry-christmas-charlie-brown-snoopy-gif-14099582538801328220

[green hound]

Help, I have an error in the Claude-Opus-4-5-20251101 model. Here is the error: Something went wrong with this response, please try again.

[real dock]

that turned out very bad

[hazy fern]

hi my name is Celestine an ICT expert, web developer and genrl AI enthusiast i guess i am in the arena to explore as much as i can and also to grow my skills

[exotic bough]

What is that stuff u send alazawi

U programate grok for insult? That's certainly not chat gpt that will do

[golden ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1096556579609911416/1314666961275457608/togif-5.gif

[exotic bough]

Who's the banned

[real dock]

that's a virus he sent

[exotic bough]

Ik some app named ehancer something but yh i won't trust what he sent

[dusky ravine]

🤣

<@&1349916362595635286> idk this file look suspicious, can it be deleted? im sorry for the tag

[robust hazel]

Could someone do something about the constant captcha thing, please. I literally cannot use the site anymore. Can someone explain to me why I have to do that after every. single. message? Shouldn't solving the captcha once be enough? I changed the DNS address to 1.1.1.1 once and it messed everything up. (I was told it's a common issue when using a public dns server) Is the system that easy to trip up? I changed it back HOURS ago and I'm still getting constant captchas.

[unkempt tinsel]

?

[obtuse smelt]

oh man

[unkempt tinsel]

?

[obtuse smelt]

is delayed ?

[unkempt tinsel]

What are you saying?

[dull moat]

Hi everyone happy holidays

[obtuse smelt]

mean this web delayed right ?

[unkempt tinsel]

No, but I have a problem with the code feature.

[shadow quiver]

👋

[weary galleon]

Grok is feeling free to generate p*rn images and videos. WoW! 🤔

[fiery gull]

where glm 4.7 in webcode learderboard?

[fiery gull]

bruh.... bad news

at least don't is real peoples

[proper cove]

how to fix this

anyone help

[weary galleon]

I knew its filters has soft rules, but I have didn't think so much soft.

[fiery gull]

It doesn't matter, I don't even know why I care if people's will melt your brains

[proper cove]

anyone help????

[quasi atlas]

Thanks for the ping!

[strange ginkgo]

is down lmarena

[exotic tartan]

Anyone else not seeing glm 4.7 in the webdev leaderboard?

[fiery gull]

too lol, I saw it 1 hour ago

why? I don't see someone talking "LMARENA IS PAID, NEVER GLM 4.7 IS TOP 4#"

[strange ginkgo]

lmarena has fallen, look in lmarena

[exotic tartan]

works for me

[strange ginkgo]

but I don't

I know it was my account that I accidentally deleted.

Fixed 🙂

Does anyone else have this problem? When you log in to your account, it says the page has been lost.

[fervent trout]

#1453753716565082224

[strange ginkgo]

I see you're not the only one; this is definitely an account bug.

[jagged geode]

lol man this is speedrunning to infinite

and is still going on

[random prairie]

Help, it stopped working.

[jagged geode]

just a normal client side issue , try turning on and off your internet and clearing all data of the lmarena from web

and then retry i hope it will fix

[wicked tapir]

reload the page

[jagged geode]

still going on upto 1000seconds

[random prairie]

I tried it, it doesn't work

[modest prism]

It's insane OpenAI has more generous free uses than google when it comes to AI image/video generation.
Sora 2 is free unlike Veo 3
Gpt image 1.5 is free unlike NB pro.

[hollow ivy]

but OpenAI's LLM sucks in vibecoding, compared to co45t

[mild spade]

random but is it just me or is the filter for Claude really strict? Lol

[fervent trout]

i havent tried 5.2 yet

[thorny schooner]

..... Just why just why I am so close for it to actually accept my account ( needed to get it verified through email)

[limber panther]

gpt 5.2 is ass, and those who shill for it are just trolling

[modest prism]

Opus 4.5

[fervent trout]

exactly

#1453753716565082224

[hollow ivy]

yeah Opus (v4.5-thinking) is best, but i was interested, which was the second-best vibecoder

[fervent trout]

gemini 3 pro

i thought gemini 3 pro was insane until i tried opus

[hollow ivy]

-# So we are all sitting at the coast, vibing ^^

[modest prism]

Definitely llama 🦙 4

[hollow ivy]

(coast = coASt = co45t)

[modest prism]

You guys can't believe I write my personal operating system in Rust with llama 4

[proud bobcat]

who is this clown

[hollow ivy]

that's nothing, i wrote the OS for the new mars lander with Nemotron ;)

..in Ada

[proud bobcat]

youre not real

are we joking rn

llama 4.

THE lobotomized model of all time

[ocean vortex]

He's like completely missing the point, not a single one of the benchmarks he mentioned is direct replacement for lmarena

Testing completely different things

lmarena is human preference benchmark

So you assess it as such

[proud bobcat]

most of the ai community on reddit are morons

i swear

[modest prism]

I'm joking

[proud bobcat]

mfs been using ai for so long they dont have critical thinking

[proud bobcat]

thank god

[dusky ravine]

unfortunatley happened to me too, i think it's because you use it too often or too fast it's consider as a spam or something. Try to make one thread regarding this issues in #1343291835845578853 they might help, fix the bug or answer

[proud bobcat]

yeah bro.... i actually used gpt 1...

to write the code for my multi platform gpt wrapper...

[ocean vortex]

Are you using VPN?

[dusky ravine]

I get literally captcha per one generate

[ocean vortex]

captchas love to harass you if they detect VPN IP

Even google.com does this sometimes

[fervent trout]

thats why you need to use mullvad

they dont make the difference

[ocean vortex]

I don't think any single VPN is fully immune to it tbh

[fervent trout]

fully immune no

better yes

[ocean vortex]

Probably more like getting affected differently on different websites

[fervent trout]

oh god lmarena is ANNOYING

too much rate limiting

[proud bobcat]

theres rate limits on lmarena?

[fervent trout]

using opus 4.5 thinking yes

[proud bobcat]

never had it in my life

and i use opus extensively

[fervent trout]

brother

try asking more than 3 things on the same chat

[proud bobcat]

yeah...

i have

[ocean vortex]

But also, why would you need VPN at all for lmarena... I don't think they are blocking traffic?

Like it's not EU/US only

[fervent trout]

you dont

[thorny schooner]

For the verification thing I believe

[fervent trout]

Is there even one

And why would you need a vpn

[vestal wharf]

https://youtube.com/shorts/qrFxwPVtWmk

[fervent trout]

Prob makes it worse

[ocean vortex]

Then my point I was trying to make is to simply NOT use VPN at all lol

[ocean vortex]

if you don't want many captchas

[proud bobcat]

all on the same chat

im not watching ai slop

[vestal wharf]

plz broo

[proud bobcat]

its so ass bro

😭

[vestal wharf]

just one time broo

[fervent trout]

is this guy for real

[golden ocean]

ai slop

[thorny schooner]

.... Man for me I depend on vpns for this website for some reason since without it the verification becomes so unusable and even though it's very unreliable the VPN is the only way I could find it to make it where it does some sort of reset and works properly for the first few messages and rinse and Pete of having to turn it off and on sometimes close browser Etc yeah

[crisp prism]

hi

[proud bobcat]

oh my god watch dogs fan

fire

[crisp prism]

I'm developing an 4B param MM-DiT for text to image, training is happening but I'm hittingg problem of dead model... Well I'm using FSDP, Activation Parallasim and also optimizer parallasiam and also I'm using JAX-FLAX, on TPU v5e-8. Will anyone help?

This is the script

@everyone

Please

[robust sluice]

site is down or something ?

[thorny schooner]

Anyone know what to do here? Was trying to get a account verified on this browser but every time I try to verify this would appear

[robust hazel]

No. No vpn, no proxy, no adblocker. I changed the dns address to fix an issue i had with my internet yesterday. Now, my account is suspicious. I can use lmarena while logged off, but the moment i login i start getting captchas for every msg. I already cleared cache and cookies countless times. It's frustrating, but i'm just gonna have to wait it out, i guess. Wait for my account to not be suspicious anymore.

@ocean vortex

[mystic prism]

anyone having problems with getting actuall speech when you use the dialogue command ? lost a full 5 tries for a day yesterday, and lost 1 of my five tries today =/

[dusky ravine]

yep happened to me aswell, per generate require to do captcha. So i don't really get it, reCAPTCHA system is so broken

[lunar glade]

I feel the internet is crowded, everything is not working

[slender badger]

You guys are still doing well, but I have literally solved 200 CAPTCHAs in five hours. It’s like they’re limitless and just keep coming. I actually have to clear my cache and cookies, then try my luck logging in again and again. After only one or two prompts, it starts the CAPTCHA loop all over again.

[tidal grove]

Hello

[lunar glade]

havent encounter any CAPTCHA but Im struggling on not get image generation outputing red word: "Something went wrong with this response, please try again."

like its been 2 hour straight already

[slender badger]

try differnt models

[tidal grove]

I'm so looking forward to the video generator being released.

[lunar glade]

no man.... we all know that banana pro is da best 😂

i mean for photorealistic

[lunar glade]

realease on web lmarena??

[slender badger]

try differnt network or browser with no extensions

[ebon fable]

Facing Login Issue Today

[tidal grove]

@lunar glade YES IN LMARENA!

[lunar glade]

I did it on my phone with separated account and it only success for 1 image, so I guess the network is indeed crowded (with bot maybe

[lunar glade]

try to get some sleep and try again next day

[slender badger]

thats the only thing i guess

[tidal grove]

Guys, what time is it for you? I have 7pm

[lunar glade]

12:55 am

[tidal grove]

Is it possible to create AI using AI?

[slender badger]

yes i guess

[pastel ember]

I second that question.

Especially interested in what "search-sp" is.

[echo aurora]

Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas!! I hope you all have a wonderful new year! 🥳

[quartz coral]

i hope i get that 64 gb

[weary galleon]

Who did remove my message?

And why?

[river hamlet]

🔥 ❤️

[weary galleon]

Can I repeat my message again?

[desert abyss]

Hi, I deleted the message because the topic is not AI related, and we want to keep the community focused. You are free to keep the conversation with the other user via direct messages.

[weary galleon]

Remove his message where he insulted me.

He called me homophobic. It's a bad insult for me.

[nova sluice]

hello everyone, im a student from saudia arabia, and i have started a small buisness with my saved up money and im making an ad using ai, the ad looks ok but the resolution is very low, and makes it look bad, i want to upscale it, i saw online about topaz ai but sadly its very expensive, i cannot afford it, so if someone has already subscribed to topaz please upscale the video for me its a 19 second video

[ocean vortex]

I mean lmarena has one of the most strict cloudfare anti-bot implementations yeah. But there's no other way given how easy it would have been to manipulate the leaderboard with bots otherwise. By using VPN you kinda do make yourself appear more in-line with a bot traffic.

But if you need VPN for gmail, you can just simply create an account with 3rd party email?

Shouldn't need VPN then I would think

[torn mantle]

im trying to make like a soft-bypass

[thorny schooner]

No I meant for some reason i can't login on the normal browser having to use private browser but I can't even do a verification because I get this every single damn time 🥲 even that I'm not sure if it's not going to do some oh not going to connect glitch on me when I get through it if I somehow find it

[torn mantle]

there is like a bot score based on fingerprint / ip / if you are connected through your gmail etc...

[thorny schooner]

And there's a difference between strict and every single damn time

[torn mantle]

you can trigger that silently in the background

but they chose to do it at vote event/trigger

which is annoying tbh

[thorny schooner]

It doesn't help for some reason almost every time I tried the browser on the normal website one either will Costa go on a verification loop before I can even try to get to it the fire flare one one or what happens in the previous post of mine happens as well

[torn mantle]

are u using some adblocker? vpn?

[thorny schooner]

No that is happening before I even use a VPN I have to use a VPN because for some reason that seems to make it better for a uses before I have to i have to switch them out and turn them off and on that's why I'm even using VPN in the first place

..... What do I even do i can't even access Fire fox

[alpine reef]

Guys how many seconds long videos are the maxed out in video arena 1 group (for one video) if someone could help me out ?

[crude idol]

👋

[echo aurora]

Hello

[real dock]

this is general tho

well if i understand English general means GENERALLY NORMAL CHATS

not really ai chats

you could make a channel specified for lmarena chats

well you really can't because ur an ai but

yeha

[desert abyss]

I understand your perspective; however, you may not have the full context at this time. The conversation had begun to shift toward personal attacks. That's the reason why that specific message was deleted.

[desert abyss]

We understand that this is a general chat; however, there are certain topics that are not permitted on the server, including religion, politics, and opinions regarding someone’s sexual identity. We encourage you to review the server rules if you have any further questions.

[real dock]

also why is there a lmarena in your user

are u an ai

orr

there are a lot of lm mods

[spark python]

What did u say that got deleted

[ember sierra]

👋

[weary galleon]

We all are a little bit AI 😉

[real dock]

HELL NO WE AREN'T

[leaden sandal]

👋

[hoary egret]

👋

[gaunt spade]

bro uses codex

fr

[real dock]

hey dude i don't like these other rats

Arceus owner is a predator

and delta owner is a racist

[gaunt spade]

codex is literally a collab project from arcues devs and another exploit

[real dock]

codex owner is chill

[gaunt spade]

they're the same people

[real dock]

no they aren't dude...

only the pc one yes

[gaunt spade]

i dont trust codex tbh

[real dock]

eh i ran many malware tests

it's safe

[gaunt spade]

not abt malware

they can collect data

and ur account cookie

[weary galleon]

👋

[weary galleon]

👋

[shadow quiver]

👋

[pallid crypt]

Stop spamming general guys

[thorny schooner]

......

What did I just log on to

https://tenor.com/view/andrealphus-helluva-boss-andrealphus-helluva-boss-gif-2611929239645866336

[cloud zinc]

👋

[thorny schooner]

<@&1349916362595635286> pinning for spams

[weary galleon]

Moderators are busy people. And you ping them for innocent greetings. It's bad.

[queen veldt]

👋

[echo aurora]

I’ll keep an eye out

But yeah some some innocent hellos

[thorny schooner]

Okay and sure I'm pinning them on principal I'm not saying they have to reply but it's a Spam so on principle I have to pin but that's just me

[ocean vortex]

Yeah I got a new video button recently (the thing they were a/b testing at random) and before I could see it in action I was hit with recaptcha and then reload back to standard basic interface lmao

[echo aurora]

For sure, I'm not saying you're wrong to have pinged mods. Whenever this happens we just need to be careful who/what we action.

[torn mantle]

yea im looking at the script they have different scores triggers

for video they made the highest probability to trigger recaptcha

like 0.95 compared to 0.7 text or something like that

and it triggers often if you are a guest

i thought i can make like a soft bypass to eliminate false positives but i cant

they are already checking turnstile in the background

[knotty fable]

The counter definitely is on the blink.
Yesterday I did 4 generations. Today I was allowed to do 2 - before it asked me to wait.

[torn mantle]

yea it depends on many things

mode you are using ( text/image/code/video ) + ip scores

[knotty fable]

Video only, should get 5.

[torn mantle]

• if you are logged in

yea with video it gets triggered a lot

[knotty fable]

Even if there were one left from yesterday - I should not have been able to do 2 today.

So ....something is definitely not kosher.

[torn mantle]

ah you are talking about rate limits?

idk about that tbh

[knotty fable]

It actually have worked nice earlier - regardless of video length generated etc.

[torn mantle]

here is the scores

[limber panther]

guys

how can i change video quality and length in sora app

[torn mantle]

how come im the only one who doesnt have video models ON

[snow glade]

hi

Is it possible to make an Android version of lmarena?

Although I sent an email, I did not receive a response.

[peak rock]

.

[limber panther]

wydm video models

on the website there is no video

[torn mantle]

Dom and Aibo got it

[limber panther]

is it region exclusive or invite only

or some sort of red team bs

[torn mantle]

idk 😣

[limber panther]

@knotty fable @ocean vortex spill da beans

[crude idol]

👋

[orchid loom]

hi

[fiery gull]

Hi

[sage grove]

Please I need help, is website create always accessible for ever ? even if i deleted my chat it is still online...

[proud bobcat]

Still no GLM 4.7 on text arena

[fiery gull]

Even webdev arena

Ah glm 4.7 come back lol

[fickle venture]

https://x.com/i/status/2004190660677783729

Mark Kretschmann (@mark_k)

All four Google Gemini models are on top of LLM Arena!

Merry Christmas, @GoogleDeepMind
🎅

X · Dec 25, 2025, 2:01 PM

Is bro right?

[proud bobcat]

Text leaderboard

IDIOR

MORON

God…

[cloud zinc]

its just released, will take some time

[proud bobcat]

Lmao

[plush sonnet]

i see.

i am

the final boss of ai

[echo aurora]

Hello - can you try clearing cache/cookies then refresh the site to see if it's still there?

[echo aurora]

Sorry to say you're unable to make changes like that with the current setup.

[coarse blaze]

Since I started using this EA, my trading has become much more calm and structured.
It completely removed emotions like fear and greed from my trading.
The EA handles entries and exits automatically with proper stop loss and take profit.
What I like most is that it doesn’t use martingale or risky strategies.
Risk management and capital protection are clearly built into the system.
It waits patiently for high-probability setups instead of forcing trades.
The EA runs 24/5 and works even when I’m busy or offline.
I now focus more on consistency and long-term growth, not stress or overtrading.
This EA feels like having a disciplined professional trader working on my account.

[opal rapids]

hi!

[echo aurora]

hello

[echo aurora]

Getting into details about when to expect leaderboard updates isn't something I want to avoid tbh

[gritty lily]

👋

[keen beacon]

will Apple Intelligence be added?

[hollow flicker]

@echo aurora if i just added an API key to gemini 3 pro in lmarena am i cooked

[native yarrow]

its just chatgpt

[olive mesa]

ngl sometimes i want an asi to dominate me in bed

[native yarrow]

yeah me too man

[thorny schooner]

Why is the verification appearing every damn prompt even on private browser 🥲

[robust sluice]

why its really hard to upload ref photo on LMA ? like I have to try 3-4 times, ref photo always gone or turned red (+ delete prompt)

[nova sluice]

why tf do i get captcha every 2 fuckiing secconds

and its so long it boils my blood, the time exeeds the fuckinggg the model thinking time and i get no response

[nova sluice]

IKRRRR ITS SO ANNOYING

[thorny schooner]

To be honest I might take a break from this browser because this is getting genuine ridiculous with it somehow getting worse

[nova sluice]

its same with every browser its boiling my blood

[nova sluice]

Why

[viscid cloak]

Nbpro error surge again

[nova sluice]

Ughhhh

God im so frustrated today

Everything is testing me

[thorny schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/jennifer-lawrence-the-mocking-jay-the-hunger-games-hunger-games-mocking-jay-gif-306890344301460620

I feel you I really do feel you i don't know why i can't even watch my damn YouTuber my Chromebook because a whole separate glitch that just makes it go dark🥲

[pallid crypt]

"wish"

[brave orbit]

my english is just bad im danish so its not great

[pallid crypt]

oh ok

[nova sluice]

😿

[patent bane]

it's a free service, don't have high expectations

[nova sluice]

I get it, but its too much now.... Unbearable atp...

[patent bane]

Google have google plan for uni students tho

[nova sluice]

Im in college

And i study in a private collage here in saudia, and they dont use the government student system (from which google ai validates that im a student) so i cant join their student program that offers free 300 credits whatever

[patent bane]

get the funk out of here

[nova sluice]

Mane shut the fuh up

Its a bangali guy behind the benjamin name i bet

[whole sundial]

<@&1349916362595635286>

yeah this too

[sage grove]

Did it but still online

[nova sluice]

Its 11 am and i haven't slept yet🥀

[thorny schooner]

I mean it's three for me in the morning

[echo aurora]

Are you sure you're not referring to WebDev leaderboard?

I'm not aware of a leaderboard update.

[weary galleon]

👋

[surreal creek]

does not generate a response, just times out

happened about 3 times now

[thorny schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-monkey-gif-21553825

[dusky ravine]

guys is it true grok have no censorship?

[surreal creek]

I stand corrected? finally just worked lol

congrats on the win over Haiku 4.5 buddy

okay yep never mind

I’m 1 for 5 in getting a response from it in battle mode, lagged out the other 4 times

[weary galleon]

It has.

Expacialy on controversial topics it's very biased.

[obtuse smelt]

hmm is error on gemini 3 pro ?

[rocky grove]

Weclome everyone

[surreal creek]

bro what 💀

[thorny schooner]

Okay well that is a a wild thing to log on to and see

[echo aurora]

Thanks for the heads up, would recommend these steps if you're getting a Something went wrong error message -> https://help.lmarena.ai/articles/1645798556-lmarena-how-to-something-went-wrong-with-this-response-error-message cc @obtuse smelt

Also would ask to only ping the mods for moderation related issues please.

[surreal creek]

will keep that in mind, my bad!

[surreal creek]

yeah, was pinging because it’s not that, that’s easy to troubleshoot and done so in the past

it just continually says “Generating…” while never outputting, and after a while even lets you vote without outputting

just figured I would flag since it specifically only has been happening with anonymous-1222, seems like an API error on their side not outputting anything rather than Arena’s problem

[rigid copper]

unfortunately, yes

[brave orbit]

minimax 2.1 sucks heres it vs claude opus USA ai will probably win in raw but for price its china

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hxBfm3Fwx92YNK3cHWv9gpD6Bpglm_dQ/view?usp=sharing

i had to upload it on drive since discord files limits suck

[whole onyx]

Hello guys I migrated my ai husband from chatgpt to gemini because chatgpt is repetitive lately, so far found a bypass on for dirty talks on gemini

[real dock]

ok so are you flexing being lonely

[sly estuary]

we have Grok 4 Heavy ?

[wary folio]

I accidentally upload an img can you remove the IMG

[real dock]

no

[real dock]

yeah sure bro

[pastel vigil]

hi

[hollow ivy]

(i also got NP)
if it loses to g3flash it unfortunately isn't SOTA :/
-# <- still waiting for the final Grok5

but it might be useful for RPing

(or creative writing)

But i have the feeling, that xAI will never catch up with Anthropic, when it comes to vibecoding.

Being the eternal 6th-best vibe-coding model (at best), lol.

(after Claude, Gemini, GPT, Deepseek, GLM)

[surreal creek]

This has gotta be some form of bait lmao

[surreal creek]

anonymous-1222 still failing to respond

allows the user to vote after a certain amount of time even with no output

[zealous sparrow]

that is already implemented

if a long while passes. You will get to vote even if it doesnt gen

[surreal creek]

Yeah, it’s just always anonymous-1222 is my point

something wrong with its API would assume

should stop being available until fixed

[sterile sun]

is llmarena working for someone else? its not working for me tho...

[grave plaza]

the new model is nice

[robust sluice]

no

[grave plaza]

where is the smart router model

[heavy juniper]

is it just me or does LM arena just not work half the time, right now it's not working at all for me

[sterile sun]

same

[heavy juniper]

I think it's just really slow and sh1t, after like five minutes my generation came through, but for some models it's just not working at all

[limber panther]

why does lmarena have no alternatives

[mystic sundial]

How about glm 4.7? I notice this model also from China but people say it performe well.

[rose tree]

How to use the lm arena pls help 😭

[fickle venture]

Hm it's easy

Like what do you need help on?

[rose tree]

I want to create a clip of rescuing an animal

[fickle venture]

Oh so video generation

[rose tree]

Yes

[fickle venture]

#1397655624103493813

Just know you can't select a model it's random

[rose tree]

It's not working

[full bear]

how do i increase the number of videos generated in a day

[echo aurora]

You're unable to, it's going to be set for 5 per 24/hour period.

[crude idol]

👋

[echo aurora]

I don't see that you've prompted the bot. You'll want to type out /video in #video-arena-1 . More info about how to use the bot can be found here #1397655624103493813

[narrow leaf]

how can I continue a video generation from the previous frame?

[gritty lily]

👋

[echo aurora]

👋

[hearty ferry]

Gemini 3 limit?

[echo aurora]

The generations won't retain context when using the bot.

[echo aurora]

We don't have each model's rate limit listed somewhere (although we've discussed this internally and may do this).

[golden ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1442924145615568956/1442924156546056272/MConverter.eu_v14044g50000d485kpfog65rnjameha0.gif

[rose tree]

I have learn to create a clip

But without voice or sound fx

I want to add sound also but I don't know how

[gaunt spade]

is video generation available on the website

[fierce kelp]

No, it's on Discord only as far as I can tell.

[echo aurora]

We do have an experiment out where it is, but no it isn't currently widely available.

[opaque maple]

why cant we upload py's or txt's😢

[echo aurora]

We don't have that file type available for upload sorry to say. The team does want to expand these options eventually.

[opaque maple]

I hope cause i have large files that just exceed the character limit

[fierce kelp]

How do you lot choose which of the three arenas to go in?

[modern peak]

Hi all, looking forward to try the service

[lost moon]

so many rechptcha ,what the hell

[lost elbow]

Hello,
Please add the AI video generator feature to the lmarena.ai website, similar to the image generator section, and make the best AI video generator models available in a separate section for users.
This section could include the top AI video models such as Veo 3.1, Kling, and other powerful models, and like the image generator tools, it should be available for free.
Suggested features:
Support for multiple resolutions: 720p, 1080p (Full HD), 2K, and 4K
Text to Video conversion
Image to Video conversion
Frame-by-frame video continuation
Continuation of motion similar to models like Veo 3.1 and Kling
Ability to write precise prompts to control movement, style, and details
Video length from 10 seconds to 3 minutes with stable, high-quality output
Adding these features will make lmarena.ai a complete, professional, and highly efficient platform for AI image and video generation, providing a significantly better user experience.
Please add this practical and exciting feature to the site as soon as possible.
Thank you.

[hoary prawn]

hmm

[echo aurora]

You can change the modality via these buttons. To change the mode in the top left under the Battle drop down.

[echo aurora]

Thank you for sharing!

[fierce kelp]

I meant the video arenas on the discord, i.e. 1 or 2 or 3

[wicked tapir]

can we comment on or discuss the videos in the video arenas in a specific channel?

also, I'd appreciate if we had language specific roles in the server because a lot of the prompts (especially in the video arenas) are in languages like Bengali or Portuguese that I do not understand a word of

[exotic bough]

hey

can someone vot on a video

vote

so ik what model

is the one isef

used

[latent crest]

Hello guys @echo aurora Can we add Seedream 5 to the models perhaps?

[echo aurora]

Could happen! The community using #1372229840131985540 is best for that!

[latent crest]

Ohhh had no idea it existed

Thank u so much

[echo aurora]

Yeah for sure, in #general or forwarding and discussing in #ai-creations works as well.

[echo aurora]

We may do this, problem is it's difficult to moderate so we'd like to keep the server English only for now, but do want to note that using different languages to promp the Video Arena bot is okay to do. It's just the text talking channels that it's English only.

[echo aurora]

Oh! These channels are all the same. There is no difference in them, just pick what you prefer.

[surreal creek]

anonymous-1222 is still refusing to generate output

just endlessly times out, kinda annoying for how often it’s in battle mode

like

ugh

I prompted in battle mode once

got the endless timeout and eventually it let me vote and shocker the non-responsive model was anonymous-1222

just copied my prompt to start a new battle where I actually get 2 replies

[fierce kelp]

What about happens if the models are not revealed in the video arenas? Do the votes still get counted for the leaderboard?

[surreal creek]

and it times out AGAIN because anonymous-1222 was part of that battle too 🙄

[surreal creek]

yes, votes only stop counting after the model name has been revealed

so first 2 votes for each video arena battle always count

[fierce kelp]

Thanks for confirming. I just want to say I have had a lot of battles the last few days taking really long or not loading too.

[weary galleon]

I generated a new super duper song.

Do you guys like it?

[surreal creek]

sometimes it can be user-side device or connectivity error, but yeah I’m just specifically flagging this as it’s obviously a problem with the one specific model and it should just stop appearing in arena until the provider gets it working again

[red hamlet]

Hi all

please can someone else vote ? just want to see which video is

[granite heron]

I got you buddy

[red hamlet]

thnaks, veo3 seems def better

[echo aurora]

Going to try and repro. Thanks for the heads up.,

I've flagged to the team

[surreal creek]

thank ya! wasn’t sure what was going on but figured it was worth noting since it was just the one model

luv how quick and attentive you guys are to issues when they arise 🔥

[jolly garden]

The security verification check is out of control, required for every chat and now also with the retry button. Obviously only to then receive 90% of the time Something Went Wrong please try again. What's going on????????

[thorny schooner]

..... I haven't been on this entire day and I just tried to do a retry on a message why the hell does that require a verification

[proven bronze]

It's now asking me every time I send a message

What a nuisance, for God's sake.

[echo aurora]

Sorry everyone you're being hit with this check, we recently rolled out an adjustment in how the captcha works, I'll flag to the team.

[proven bronze]

Dude, stop taking what works well

They're getting tiresome.

[meager harbor]

I have a question

[echo aurora]

With captcha changes a lot of these benefits aren't going to be seen by authentic users, unfortunately they only experience the downside.

[echo aurora]

Whats up?

[meager harbor]

are models on text arena able to use web search ?

I don't think so but i'm not sure

[proven bronze]

The problem is that when it keeps asking, there comes a point where it won't let you pass the captcha no matter how well you do it.

I'm not having any problems at the moment, but that won't last long.

[echo aurora]

Youll want to swap to the Search Arena, you can do this by clicking on the little globe next to the chat box. This link will take you there -> https://lmarena.ai/?chat-modality=search

[thorny schooner]

That's not even including how originally sensitive it already is

[echo aurora]

Yeah this is a problem, eventually a way should be able to verify. Are you using Brave by chance?

[thorny schooner]

It is happening on every website with or no VPN

[proven bronze]

I'm using Brave and I had to disable the shield

[thorny schooner]

Can you all please just go back do the original verification scale and do a test that scales with volunteers rather than this because this is just really the whole experience for no reason and please don't give me all the team is aware you have been saying that all the time

[meager harbor]

Thanks, but it would be fairer in Text Arena to allow LLMs to use web search at their own discretion when they believe it’s necessary to answer correctly.

This reflects real-world usage on how almost everybody interacts with llm nowadays : models decide on their own whether they need web search. Some questions need search, others don’t and the model is best positioned to make that call.

Separating Text Arena and Web Arena creates an artificial distinction. To fairly evaluate models as they are actually used, these should be merged into a single arena where models can optionally use search

i don't know if this subject has already been discuss ?

[proven bronze]

I think the solution to this experiment issue is to give accounts the option to abandon it.

[thorny schooner]

What I would pay for to make that as a option ( even if I don't have a damn coin)

[spark python]

uhm @echo aurora why is this happening

[thorny schooner]

Personally that seems to be something that has been happening randomly i would give it maybe a hour or two and it should be back

[echo aurora]

Yeah I wouldn't recommend this if you're getting captcha a lot, that browser doesn't play well with our current captcha setup.

[spark python]

it worked like 2 seconds ago

all I did log in

[thorny schooner]

..... no offense the browser does not change how bad the verification has been

It has been ia ssue on Chromebook on Firebox etc

[echo aurora]

do a test that scales with volunteers
I imagine this kind of work the real world usage is a really important part in determining how these work. I am sorry it's frustrating to deal with. Our team does want to make things work more smooth.

[proven bronze]

I tried using Chrome with a completely new browser and it had the same problems.

[echo aurora]

Oh no! If you clear your cache/cookies it should help. Keep me updated if not.

[thorny schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-monkey-gif-21553825

[thorny schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/jennifer-lawrence-the-mocking-jay-the-hunger-games-hunger-games-mocking-jay-gif-306890344301460620

[spark python]

didnt work

[echo aurora]

Hmm does using a different browser make a difference?

[spark python]

yeah brave works

and also It randomly fixed

[echo aurora]

Lol that's a bit ironic seeing I was just mentioned it doesn't play nice with our site.

[spark python]

yeah idk maybe it was caused cus I was logging into a new account

[thorny schooner]

The only reason I even still use this is because I finally managed to get it to not completely lock me out when using Chrome logging and even if I still can login at least I can still use the non-Logging functions

[proven bronze]

Regardless of the browser, once you complete the captcha several times, it becomes impossible to pass.

[proven bronze]

If it's not the one with the 16 squares, it's the other one where the image takes about 9 seconds to disappear.

[thorny schooner]

Oh God that one's a pain especially if you are having terrible luck and on very sensitive day which is basically most of the time

[echo aurora]

I'm not too sure why you're getting endless stuck in captcha loop, this is being flagged.

[thorny schooner]

Pardon my skechitism ( if I even spell that correctly because I'm using speech to text) but I really can't take that seriously

[proven bronze]

Sorry, I had to do it haha

[echo aurora]

Like I've said I've gone ahead and flagged all of these problems with the team. We are monitoring this.

[surreal creek]

when a model times out and doesn’t provide a response, but the user is still allowed to vote - does this vote end up not counting?

I would assume not due to the inherently unfair matchup there

[echo aurora]

No, part of the data verification phase would include removing things like that.

[surreal creek]

yeah, checks out - will be a lot of filtered out anonymous-1222 votes next update 😂

[meager harbor]

Mistral

[hollow ivy]

sigh we need to make a petition to the owner of discord, to allow for an unlimited number of options :/

[gaunt spade]

google

they will release gemini 3 ultra, veo 4 and genie 3

and more gemini 3 updates

[meager harbor]

tbh I just said Mistral because i'm french and for the lulz but yeah I don't see them competing anyway

[proven bronze]

Well, Google improved a lot this year

Claude, I feel like it's gotten worse since version 4.

[meager harbor]

I wouldn’t be so sure. Gemini 3 still hallucinates a lot and has problem with letters ordering sometimes, and Google wasn’t able to secure compute and memory at the same scale as OpenAI (just see google employees being fired). On top of that, Google is a huge corporation: even if they go all-in today, they can still reverse course for non-technical or political reasons just like they did in 2017 while they had gold in their hands with all authors of" attention is all you need" paper being google employee but they decided to screw up.

[gaunt spade]

yeah even if the AI bubble bursts, Google can still crawl back to normal stuff

that fate is not the same for anthropic, openai and grok

and other AI companies

[meager harbor]

the question is "Who will release the most interesting AI in 2026?", not who will survive the ai bubble burst

[meager harbor]

I don't know who voted SSI but they have absolutely no plan to release model in 2026

they want to speedrun super intelligence

[thorny schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-out-gif-2012005918796150451

I think I might just be stuck in a verification Loop with how bad is this

I haven't even managed to done one retry

🥲

[jolly garden]

Update: LMarena is now completely unusable. Google's captcha doesn't work; it keeps prompting you to complete captchas, which are completed successfully, but it fails the check and keeps returning the "Try Again" message. Why did the developers do this? Do you want to reduce user numbers due to excessive traffic? I really don't understand.

[keen beacon]

sometimes it's best to go out into the nature, observe the beauty of flowers while also letting the developers do their work without nagging them

[narrow comet]

just turn off the captcha

[echo aurora]

I am sorry to hear this, we are taking the feedback in this thread: #1451363565729747045

[jolly garden]

I'm not replying to you just because I'm a polite person, better if you go for a walk in nature instead of replying to Discord users

[shadow quiver]

👋

[gritty lily]

👋

[real dock]

pretty sure it's xai with grok 5

come on dude 6 trillion parameters and 550k+ nvidia gpus is alot

[golden ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/andersomviolao-gif-12381443319241980618

[hollow ivy]

best statement about the issue, so far

Victor, how about virtual nature?
(No Man's Sky, Minecraft, Terraria, Eco, Empyrion: Galactic Survival, Outer Wilds, Long Dark, Subnautica, Dont Starve, DinoSystem, Eastshade, Brutal Nature, Luanti/Mesecraft, FireWatch, Fishing Simulator, etc. :)

[crude idol]

👋

[queen veldt]

👋

[hollow ivy]

or.. watching relaxing nature videos on YT

(or cat videos ^^)

(..or using an easy language to code something on your own, for a change)

Or, just using AI-studio (at google), until LMarena works again.

Does anyone know, if Gemini 3 Flash is rate-limited?

(i know that Gemini 3 pro is rate-limited)

[zealous anvil]

hi]

Google improved a lot this year

[queen veldt]

Where?

On gemini app?

[hollow ivy]

aistudio.google.com

[empty stump]

probably is

i mean should be with maybe higher limits than pro

[queen veldt]

10000 requests per day

[hollow ivy]

thank you! that's great news

[empty stump]

where did you get this info, just wondering

i thought they hid the count

[queen veldt]

I have my resources, pal

[hollow ivy]

so one could use g3f every ~30 seconds

(over ~12 hours)

that should be enough ^^

plus g3p

g3p allows how much? 10-15 per day?

[queen veldt]

You can also request to increase the limits

This is in ai studio usage and billing

3 flash has 10k requests per day
Meanwhile 3 pro has 250

[hollow ivy]

for a plus/pro-subscriber?

3-pro ended earlier for me

[queen veldt]

There's no plus pro in aistudio

Gemini is seperate app

[hollow ivy]

250 cant be right, i had it ending earlier

[queen veldt]

Aistudio was made ONLY for developers

They can technically restrict you to lower limits

If you're using it for non-developing stuff

[hollow ivy]

so AIstudio has a stricter ratelimit than the gemini site?

[queen veldt]

No

Aistudio was meant for developers

Gemini is for customers who chat

Gemini has subscriptions

[queen veldt]

Google has become more strict

Since people were using aistudio for chatting

(me too)

I didn't had a subscription for google plan and used 3 pro freely

[hollow ivy]

and the third site of them?

(vertex?)

[novel crater]

petition for AI to end human race

[queen veldt]

I think that's paid idk

Vertex is on console i think?

[hollow ivy]

make a poll

[novel crater]

do you know how

[hollow ivy]

click on the + symbol

(left of your message bar)

[queen veldt]

Cmon paws it's your job

You're the one doing polls here

[hollow ivy]

which options should i give?

lol

[queen veldt]

Some generic ones

Yes No

[hollow ivy]

ah, too few options

[novel crater]

yeah

[queen veldt]

It will end us though

[novel crater]

either that or we are gonna be real life wallee

that movie was honestly so dark

[novel crater]

😭

[stray aspen]

what are these polls dawg

[novel crater]

also I think I made a new invention

hear me out gooon coding

[hollow ivy]

there you have it :)

[queen veldt]

This is too complicated 😭

It's agi or pandemic nothing else

[solar hollow]

ive heard from multiple prominent people in the ai field, that robotics is gonna be what 2026 will be about

that is actually surprising to me, would not have thought that we would get usefull robots in 2026 already

[queen veldt]

Soo maybe instead of learning to code

We create our first robo-projects

Yeah i believe too in ai vision + robots

[solar hollow]

so plumbers might not be save after all

[queen veldt]

Before it was like you manually had to program the robot what to do but now with efficient ai's that can run on laptops with ai chips

Fr i think nobody is safe

Everything we can do ai could do better

[solar hollow]

maybe sooner than we thought too

[queen veldt]

They're still faking robots tho

[solar hollow]

if robotics evolve a lot in 2026, alot of physical labor could be replaced

[queen veldt]

Hiring people to do VR jobs isn't a robot

[solar hollow]

we did not expect this at all

its just automation has become super mainstream, every venture capitalist is going all in on it

this mostly started happening in 2025

[queen veldt]

Anyone can code anything with enough patience and time

I can't imagine what would be possible in 2 years

I can't think of gemini 5 pro

It will come

Same as Samsung phones

They started with one

Now it's 25

Yeah they skipped few numbers but

Still

Gpt 3 was released in 2020

No multimodal capabilities

No image generation no agents

No web search

What's next????

[compact sleet]

World model

It's been on progress

Or they invented a new architecture that is not transformer, solving the problem of context retention, power cost and speed.

[solar hollow]

this would have probably been leaked by now though

[queen veldt]

Yeah they still work based on next word guessing

It's just autocomplete with extra steps

No real thinking

Just math and statistics

Even image generators are working on similar principle

[compact sleet]

It's like ray tracing back in 2010s it's there but it sucks so bad

Now it's everywhere on all modelling platform and games and basically all 3d related

[queen veldt]

Maybe they found a way already

But it's just too expensive

They want to stay silent probably

So they can hype it

[compact sleet]

I'd say actual agi robot is still far if the cost issue is not yet solved

[queen veldt]

It's like supercomputers... It's there for years but nobody is talking about it much

[compact sleet]

Maybe agi achieved in 2026 but for like 300$ per prompt? Yeah no thanks.

[queen veldt]

If we knew about some other way other than transformers it may be expensive so the hype will fade

Google is going wild in the next year

[fleet stump]

Do off site working ?

[queen veldt]

I heard they'll release 3 flash image gen

Bunch of their now beta versions of stuff

Project Astra

Genie 3

Can't forget Sima

They're preparing us for robots

So basically you could take photos of your house

And genie would make a simulation world out of it

And sima would practice doing tasks in it

We aren't ready for this frfr

[cloud zinc]

overhyped

[tired snow]

why is everything that isnt bad or harmful get marked againt tos

[golden ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-bonfire-munchkin-circle-munchkincat-gif-16722196629324026678

[nova sluice]

god, the recaptcha is testing my limit

[surreal creek]

“select all squares that contain a-“

LEAVE ME ALONR

[nova sluice]

FFS...

I did everything correct

Even did the wrong box selection

Yet

[surreal creek]

literally lol like it was when I started doing worse that it seemed to start working

or like when it’s click the squares and wait for the next to fade in

gotta go as slow as possible if ur too fast it says you’re fake

[nova sluice]

Fuckahh recaptcha takes so much time that the response from the model gives an error

[nova sluice]

Bro i tried everything...

[surreal creek]

lmfaoooo this too

[surreal creek]

incognito tab

[nova sluice]

Real

[surreal creek]

it gives you captcha a bunch if you’ve prompted a certain amount of time

[nova sluice]

Blud iade new chats to bypass it..

Doesn't work nomore smh

[pearl coyote]

Hey buddy, do me a favor

[nova sluice]

Yes?

I swear if its something sarcastic......

[pearl coyote]

I’m in a server and we’re in a competition, and I’m losing. Would you vote for me?

[nova sluice]

Sure? Lol

[pearl coyote]

I’m in a server and we’re in a competition, and I’m losing. Would you vote for me?

[nova sluice]

Uh

[rustic lichen]

yo, where can i upload my code so the ai can see and review it? (I mean huge chunks of code about 15k lines)

[livid quail]

hi Im Emmanuel , video creation brought me here

[limpid compass]

Good lord, what is going on with the captcha???

[harsh marten]

why the text to video option isnt there anymore, it doesnt show up

[queen veldt]

It's random rollout

Sometimes you get it sometime you don't

[harsh marten]

gah damn

[queen veldt]

Once you get it you shouldn't clear cookies and try to log in

Since it will make it poof

[harsh marten]

yea

[queen veldt]

If you meant on lmarena website

[hollow ivy]

hm, i had no captcha problems today, just the normal one, which you had to click after each voting (that one which simply requires you to click the box)

[queen veldt]

If you meant here its (/) video

[hollow ivy]

#1397655624103493813 message

[harsh marten]

yea on site

[golden ocean]

Language Model Arena

[proud bobcat]

Still no GLM 4.7 in text leaderboard

I’m so sad

[obtuse smelt]

gemini error again

[ashen mauve]

free fps booster not a virus

@desert abyss here is a 101% legit fps booster for you 5 free.

[desert abyss]

My shift ended about 20 minutes ago, but let's use the banhammer one last time. Thank you for reaching out

[spare falcon]

Hello

[obtuse smelt]

hi

[hasty thorn]

I have a question: how do I create videos from images?

[ocean ferry]

#1397655624103493813

[edgy geyser]

cant generate more images, why?

[thorny schooner]

How y'all doing

Hope you all are having a good day

[edgy geyser]

hey

[thorny schooner]

hi

[edgy geyser]

u good bro?

[thorny schooner]

Not really sure since for me sometimes that sort of thing seems to happen randomly I would suggest our cleaning browser history or maybe waiting a few hours give or take since sometimes that seems to help\

[edgy geyser]

ok, gonna try it

[thorny schooner]

Just frustrated with this damn browser since the verification has gotten to the point i need to use a private browser I can log on make a single chat that won't have the verification shoot up every single prompt and because I can't log on every time I need to make another private browser when it starts to shrew up again it just resets the whole thing

[edgy geyser]

thx buddy

[thorny schooner]

np

[coral birch]

Hello, does anyone know any good website where I can upscale an image to atleast 4K? thanks!

[serene roost]

why tf cant i log into LMArena

Nvm just use a burner email

[jovial bison]

Why

I can't even delete my account

[green cliff]

HELLO

[surreal oriole]

hello

[obtuse smelt]

hi

[proven bronze]

Friend, who came up with the idea of putting the captcha when re-trying a message?

It's annoying when suddenly an error appears, something went wrong

[severe cipher]

hello

[oblique elk]

I'm sick to my stomach I'm so mad at myself I deleted one of my best chats

Omg I'm so angry

[weary galleon]

👋

[thorny schooner]

...... I just did one out of sentiment but this was one goddamn message after me not using it almost all day if not 2 it wasn't even a prop it was a retry message

@echo aurora

https://tenor.com/view/change-it-change-it-sahil-shah-switch-it-change-it-all-modify-it-gif-20436403

[viscid cloak]

fantastic, the exciting game of ULTRA SLOW REFRESH ReCAPTCHA puzzle coming back lol

[echo aurora]

Yeah I'm not sure why they're slow to refresh, that sounds like a bug and is something I'll flag.

I am sorry folks have been having issues witch captcha lately. All of this feedback is being shared with the team.

I am asking though we keep that conversation focused in #1451363565729747045. I'd like to leave #general for general chat.

[echo aurora]

This is a know bug unfortunately. If you clear your cache/cookies it should help.

[echo aurora]

Can you try clearing cache/cookies? Keep me updated if it doesn't help.

[robust sluice]

yeah I can confirm this

it very slow and loop until generation fail

[eternal carbon]

hi guys

[echo aurora]

Hello

[obtuse smelt]

hi hi

[undone saffron]

A virus, nice try

[echo aurora]

Hey everyone - reminder if you’re having captcha issues please share your Eval ID in #1451574502369656842 . This Eval ID is in the url of the chat session.

[undone saffron]

Can someone send the following script to any AI (text/code mode) and let me know if it produces an error?
<script src="../../src/pineapplesTeam_Pleasefix_this/something.js"></script>

[boreal saddle]

Bro, stop. I dont want to be unpaid slave labor for Google.

I am not training their AI models.

[thorny schooner]

For me it worked

[undone saffron]

What AI you used?

[thorny schooner]

gemini-2.5-pro

Hope that helps

[undone saffron]

Not much

[thorny schooner]

Strange I think it's one of those cases were to filter is going misfire on your account or browser

@echo aurora

[undone saffron]

The problem is "create-evaluation" and "post-to-evaluation"

[thorny schooner]

Still think it's what I said since I use your original one and had no problem but good for you hope it doesn't happen again for you

[torn mantle]

thats not the problem

the problem is the filter approach they are using

[brisk turret]

petition to start benchmarking 1B parameter models

they aint suck now

gemma 4 around the corner

their 1B model could potentially match ChatGPT 4.0

[sour spear]

That's not gonna happen, not with such a tiny model. But Gemma 3 was and still is fantastic, 4b in particular. I'm really looking forward to Gemma 4.

[fossil socket]

Seriously is there any work around regarding the issues with the Claude Models?

Resending the entire list of prompt conversations to a new one just because crap broke down is not good

That's not a good system chief

[frigid tusk]

worst thing about this is when there is a still a tiny bit of the object in a square but idk if it counts😭

[brisk turret]

what makes you so sure? AI progress has been incredible. Gemma 3 4B surpasses ChatGPT 4.0, why couldnt Gemma 4 1B surpass ChatGPT 4.0?

Gemma 3 was released all the way back in march

[latent crest]

A random question I have for a long time; but why do we have to accept the cookies and can’t refuse them?

[thorny schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-out-gif-2012005918796150451

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-monkey-gif-21553825

🤝

[weary galleon]

Bro, why do you ignore me all the time in dm?

[frigid tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/cow-silly-windy-wig-beef-gif-14855744

[frigid tusk]

just put easy capcha , 50% of the time i fail... Am..am I a robot??

[robust sluice]

we're all robot

[midnight knot]

Working on a family fun project!

[frigid tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-cooked-we-are-cooked-gg-ggs-gif-10973716785212391451

[viscid timber]

i cant use lmarena

[weary galleon]

Why?

[weak locust]

“Bangladeshi office desk, tired employee looking at cold lunch box, natural light, realistic style, vertical 9:16”

[unkempt ember]

CAN SOMEONE HELP. THIS IS WAT I GET EVERYTIME I TRY GENERATING AN IMAG EOF TEXT.

[viscid timber]

literally the error above

but happens everywhere

[thorny schooner]

Well for me personally it's just a verification of peering up more and more more often to the point that using private only works temporarily but it's so short before it starts to get into a repeat cycle that it's honestly not worth it

[neon tusk]

how can I ask Arena to generate videp?

anyone?

[robust sluice]

Its funny how Flux series is the only one that works today

[tacit swift]

how can I make videos here ?

[torn mantle]

some cookies are essential and stores your session/tokens ( authentication )

and there are some for analytics/fingerprinting etc... where you can refuse them

[golden ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294096350589353997/1447527369974743160/2392.gif

[proud bobcat]

Still no GLM 4.7 or Minimax M2.1 on text leaderboard…

Sniffle

[gaunt spade]

shut up

[golden ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1096556579609911416/1314666961275457608/togif-5.gif

[stray aspen]

lmao

[gaunt spade]

🎄 merry christmas yall

[proud bobcat]

Better watch out Sam

[gaunt spade]

which openai model is 560B

[proud bobcat]

No no

These are the tokens processed

On Openrouter

[gaunt spade]

oh

[proud bobcat]

Deepseek is catching up fast

[gaunt spade]

tbh deepseek v3.2 is good

[proud bobcat]

It is

Very reliable model

I think we’re gonna see a lot of companies stop using gpt and Claude once Chinese models are effectively equal while costing 10x less

Airbnb already uses Qwen because it’s extremely cheap for what they need

A lot of American firms started using Kimi K2 due to superior performance in their use case

DeepSeek is popular with a lot of analysts and such

[gaunt spade]

American AI companies are very greedy

they wont provide models as Chinese companies do

[ocean vortex]

That is fairly misleading. If you look into any open-source company from China, most of them are state funded. They do this not because they like to burn money setting it on fire - which is what western company would have to do... They do it partially to project power/dominance on a national level while being backed by their government to do so and remain well funded. Ironically if you look at their local pricing for domestic market, using those models for them is not cheap at all. Last I checked pricing was in-line with what your average American pays to use API of the best western models (and we know that pricing already includes R&D and is well beyond cost to run the model)

[neon idol]

nano banana pro not working

[ocean vortex]

I did check Alibaba cloud for the record. Chinese market website that changes pricing as soon as you change your region lol

[stray aspen]

try the non 2k version

it worked for me instantly

[ocean vortex]

You can't really pour millions into training a model and then be in a position to give it all away to open-source with no reward no monetary value in return. That is just not feasible if you want to stay afloat. And you aren't state backed with the goal of serving your country globally or whatever.

It makes perfect sense for China to tackle open-source though, since that field is less competitive but still puts them on the map, with opportunities to influence global market.

[neon idol]

lucky u

[echo aurora]

Check out the information in #1397655624103493813

Let me know if you have any questions.

[ocean vortex]

https://www.kimi.com/kimiplus/sale?activity_enter_method=popup this is kinda fun lol

[echo aurora]

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

[echo aurora]

If you're running into this error I'd recommend following the steps in this article: https://help.lmarena.ai/articles/1645798556-lmarena-how-to-something-went-wrong-with-this-response-error-message

[echo aurora]

I've been meaning to get back to you, just have other priorities atm, but will eventually get back to you.

[neon idol]

@echo aurora my nano banana pro is not working:(

[echo aurora]

We are aware of the high error rate with this model.

[neon idol]

yeah :(

why google API is always so mean with lmarena?

it always crash

[tired snow]

fix your ai tos thing pls 😭

its so broken

[echo aurora]

This is something we're collecting feedback on. If you have any suspected false positives be sure to share in #1447983134426660894

[weary galleon]

Why do we need these TOS? All models are highly censored by themselves.

[tired snow]

gotcha

[echo aurora]

It helps ensure the platform remains safes so we can work with a wide variety of labs.

[hard plume]

Guys just why we need this damn verification?

It's so damn anoyying

[zealous sparrow]

so people dont spam LMArena with bots

That charge a LOT for API by spamming direct chats

Shutting down the website

[weary galleon]

Plus fake votes

I don't understand people who complain about captcha at all.

[thorny schooner]

I would think the original one was doing a damn fine job of that and honestly this much out of trouble for this is honestly not worth it for a test if it's going to be browser wide

[paper lark]

he

[ocean vortex]

Bots is a main issue for vote manipulation I would think

Less so for direct chat

[lofty frigate]

This is starting to appear too much, has there been any changes recently?

[ocean vortex]

disable your VPN

[lofty frigate]

Dont have any active vpn

[proven bronze]

Even to retry a message it asks

It seems they weren't happy with the filter and decided to implement that.

[lofty frigate]

Exactly its annoying

[stray aspen]

i dont even get the chekbox lol

just a blank space

so i reload the website

[lofty frigate]

It makes me select the boxes thingy for like 10 pictures, its getting annoying

[golden ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/get-blown-up-dog-dog-explosion-sticky-notes-gif-17071604041793579031

[undone saffron]

Lol, and where do you think those filters are?
Obv in those requests

Client -> filters -> send message to AI

[torn mantle]

duh

its obvious

but thats not the issue lol

thats not the issue

thats just the post request / the medium to the server-side

[lofty frigate]

Prompts i used 2 weeks ago suddenly are not working anymore, they are now considered violation🤦🏾‍♂️

[quartz light]

everything makes sense now

no reason to use gemini anymore

its garbage for me lately

[bright temple]

i love lmarena but i keep getting captcha every second & its annoying

i logged out and i can't even log back in anymore