general

[lucid geyser]

5.2 next week

[native yarrow]

AKA metninoing one gun in fictional writing

[lucid geyser]

5.5 or 6.0 early next year

or 5o

or whatever the naming is

[native yarrow]

?

[lucid geyser]

i hear its dropping next week

[native yarrow]

i seriously just want an ai model thats AMAZING at writing

[lucid geyser]

some new model is dropping next seek

[native yarrow]

why cant there just be one 💔

[lucid geyser]

just write it yourself😡

[native yarrow]

YESS I KNOW THAT

[lucid geyser]

but i mean u could just outline and ideas with it and theyre pretty godo

no weird ai phrases

[native yarrow]

im actually a very good writer, im just interested in what prose it makes cus i like to study its habits

ive noticed between models sometimse they start out the exact same just shuffled words

and even between different companies that is

[lucid geyser]

wow u must hate artists

[native yarrow]

its strange

[native yarrow]

how so?

[lucid geyser]

i get that feeling

[native yarrow]

i hate how much tiktok artists complain

yeah

:P

[lucid geyser]

I hate that bbno guy

[native yarrow]

lol bbno$?

[lucid geyser]

terrible music

super annoying

[native yarrow]

LOL HES TRASH 😭

[lucid geyser]

bros always trying be like "cool" and appeal to people

[native yarrow]

"pull up" how bout you just make an actual flyer

[lucid geyser]

wow they hated me for speaking the truth

[native yarrow]

lolz

it really is though

[lucid geyser]

this was chatgpt 1 too

or whatever

[native yarrow]

oh

[lucid geyser]

gpt 3 but chatgpt was the first named

[native yarrow]

i didtn even notice the date

yeah thats aroudn the time i tried it too

first thing i asked it was to make a ww1 essay

blew me away at the time but its so bad now ol

[lucid geyser]

yeah

They banned me sadly in the discord

didnt even saying anything bad

[native yarrow]

that openai?

[lucid geyser]

yeah

[native yarrow]

mm

yes they dont like it when you have critiques

my favorite creation happens to be NBP but really only for editing

[lucid geyser]

me and sam were buddys back in the day

[native yarrow]

fr i was TIGHT with THEE sam altman

[torn mantle]

i see

are you rich or nah

[lucid geyser]

rich with memorys with him

[keen beacon]

I’m sorry to hear that

I have been a victim of the same policies

[frosty arch]

hello!

[lucid geyser]

I appealed

Apparently

[keen beacon]

First they kick you out and then you have to beg your way back in. What a cold world.

The worst is getting automated and getting banned or worn by the bot, which sometimes is wrong

[lucid geyser]

It was 3 years ago

[keen beacon]

“Hi, sorry can you read my handwriting if you can pick which one you are”

[tranquil lance]

I've been getting the same error, since yesterday whenever I try to use the website or a chatbot,

something went wrong while generating this response. I've been trying since yesterday.

[digital atlas]

how about zapier?

[dusk dragon]

Guys I tried going to bed

But I got hungry

So I ordered a double quarter pounder with cheese deluxe

With a large chocolate milkshake

[sterile tartan]

💀

[keen beacon]

I tried to fall asleep too

Had YouTube on in background

And some yt ad scam about air bnb guru and his stock portfolio woke me up

When I hear commercials like this or how I see when people treat people like this is what I imagine

[obtuse heart]

4 errors in a row w nbp, how fun

[neon idol]

@echo aurora Nano banana pro and nano banana pro 2k doesn't work

[obtuse smelt]

hmm both broken

[whole sundial]

there is a 4k variant that only appears in battle mode as well, but that's probably broken as well as it uses the same api endpoint

[obtuse smelt]

i see

[frozen swift]

how to turn off cloudflare?

[viral notch]

i got a 500 server error

[grand flame]

cloudflare error???

[spark sigil]

everybody panic!

[umbral garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/look-what-yep-this-gif-13617583

[whole sundial]

higgsfield is down as well

[ruby fog]

what happened?

[whole sundial]

i really hope this isn't a cloudflare outage redux

[orchid sinew]

LMARENA CLOSED

[limber crag]

aws died again ?

[spark sigil]

lmarena closed FOREVER.

[orchid sinew]

NO MORE FREE AI

[dense sphinx]

MY GOD This is unbearable!

[orchid sinew]

PAY YOUR MONEY TO GOOGLE

[umbral garnet]

damn

[obtuse smelt]

damn

[viral notch]

what am i gonna do without chatting with AI all the time? lol

[ruby fog]

damn

[dense sphinx]

Can someone fix it?,

[orchid sinew]

try to chat with gf

[rustic dock]

se cayo la web 🤣🤣🤣

[umbral garnet]

well back to prehance ROFL! ROLF!

[viral notch]

i wish

[dense sphinx]

Try Yupp Ai

[orchid sinew]

then do it

[rustic dock]

ya no va a ver mas IA free 😭😭

[viral notch]

can't. she left a few months ago

[obtuse smelt]

waiting fix soon

[orchid sinew]

run for her

[keen beacon]

wtf

[orchid sinew]

what

[keen beacon]

500 internal server error

in lmarena

[orchid sinew]

yes

its mean you should pay 500$ to get access

[rustic dock]

justo estaba haciendo mi tarea de fin de año de secundaria 😭🤣🤣

[dense sphinx]

Pineapple help

[spark sigil]

yes this is true

[viral notch]

cloudflare crapping the pants again

smh

[whole sundial]

keep i mind that i PAID for higgsfield and yet that's down too, it's an issue happening to a few sites rn

[atomic geyser]

Yep, same for me

[mild spade]

is it down with anyone else

[dense sphinx]

Guys use Yupp.ai

[waxen bridge]

yeah it is

[viral notch]

yeah, for me too

[keen beacon]

its until 7 pm in my time

[obtuse smelt]

yeah cloudflare is down

[mild spade]

meh credits come along and go

[orchid sinew]

i am banned at 8 accs

[ember iris]

Cloudfare issue.?

[keen beacon]

yes

whats yupp ai

[mild spade]

it's like lm arena

but different ui

[whole sundial]

can't even log into fal and i paid for that as well

[dense sphinx]

Yupp Ai that allow use 800 models

[mild spade]

and needs credits via making reviews of ai models

[orchid sinew]

and bans you for nothing

[mild spade]

has anybody actually cashed out on yupp

[obtuse smelt]

is a maintenance ?

[whole sundial]

i've never had that particular issue, but i agree with that statement. i brought it up to them and they said that i was "spreading misinformation"

[astral blaze]

Is it finally ded

[orchid sinew]

no pineapple retired

[whole sundial]

read your own elua, it says you can be banned for no reason!

[orchid sinew]

delete

people should know this

[whole sundial]

probably just resting, pineapple will probably be on soon, likely in the next hour or so

[plucky sparrow]

Lol cloudflare dead again

[plush sonnet]

https://www.cloudflare.com/

[keen beacon]

check the red

[plush sonnet]

even cloudflarw is down

[keen beacon]

it'll go back to normal anyways

[whole sundial]

from higgsfield discord

[plush sonnet]

when

[proud loom]

is cloudlfare doing a maintenance? hahahaha epic

[keen beacon]

any time

things happen

so yeah

[obtuse smelt]

oh maintenance

[umbral garnet]

so did they really shut down?

[orchid sinew]

fck cloudflare

replace cloudflare

[whole sundial]

not as bad as last time though, for example fmhy (a popular wiki for free resources on the web) was down last time because it is hosted on cloudflare but i can still access it rn

[pliant aspen]

ok so im not the only one who has the 500 error

[icy gulch]

LMArena just ran into an outage. What the crap Cloudflare?

[plush sonnet]

this happend a lot in the last 2 months

[whole sundial]

it just sucks that i can't even use things i paid for though, it will be back up though

[keen beacon]

yeah, it cant be helped

breh

[spark sigil]

fixed reload ur lmarena page

[obtuse smelt]

?

[tardy plover]

not fixed

[obtuse smelt]

still not fixed

[spark sigil]

i lied

[dense sphinx]

Nope

[keen beacon]

nah

[obtuse smelt]

lol

[neon idol]

Bro wth cloud fare always go down

[viral notch]

yupp.ai has a credit limit... any alternatives that are actually free like lmarena?

[whole sundial]

guys

[neon idol]

Bro just wait

[viral notch]

like without a credit limit

[neon idol]

Its not closed forever

[whole sundial]

downdetector is down again

[neon idol]

Wait just 1 hour

[whole sundial]

🤣

[obtuse smelt]

oh man

[keen beacon]

2 hours for me

🙏

[tardy plover]

mfw downdetector is down

ironic

[long jackal]

All sites behind Cloudflare are down, or just LMarena?

[daring agate]

lm arena down?

[inland quest]

Half of the internet is down probably

[quasi ravine]

😆 funny af

[obtuse smelt]

cloudflare some doing maintenance yeah

Cloudflare Down: Users Unable To Use Multiple Apps

[orchid sinew]

i'll die in 40 minutes

i dont have time

[viral notch]

anyways, while we're waiting... whats everyones favorite model?

[fleet lintel]

claude.ai is also down

[orchid sinew]

gemini + claude

[viral notch]

same

[sterile tartan]

Where someone could report downdetector if downdetector is down itself? 🤔🤔🤔

[sterile tartan]

Gemini

[thorny schooner]

gemini because honestly it's detailed enough for to do role plays or to make characters but not as dramatic as some of the other ones that are apparently more specialized for that because some of them are a bit too dramatic or kind of over the place for my liking a lot easier to refine and focus with it that model

[orchid sinew]

btw even deepseek better than gpt

[viral notch]

i must say though, gpt is nuanced at reasoning

[viral notch]

really? for what?

[orchid sinew]

just personal experience

some texts
math
etc

[umbral aurora]

Gemini ftw 👍

[orchid sinew]

hey

[viral notch]

i feel that

[thorny schooner]

I hate how true that is

[obtuse smelt]

Describe a debugging session that lasted way too long, only to be solved by something incredibly simple (the classic "typo" story).
btw i look int x

[plush sonnet]

opus 4.5 thinking is good, you need a good prompt tho

[viral notch]

openai is kinda doomed long term tbh

[orchid sinew]

opus 4.5 god of reasoning

gemini god of creativity

gpt god of sucks

[sterile tartan]

😐

[sterile tartan]

Actually multimodal, multilingual long context

[viral notch]

the metacognition on claude 4.5 is 👌

[umbral aurora]

😂😂

[polar wharf]

https://cloudflarestatus.com

[orchid sinew]

long context but sh!tty prompt-following

[sterile tartan]

Afaik non reasoning models are more creative

[plucky sparrow]

Oddly enough cloudflare used to be very reliable before vibe coding was a thing 😅

[sterile tartan]

Well every model has it's pros and cons

[orchid sinew]

yes

[sterile tartan]

💀

[dense sphinx]

Guys

Guys

[viral notch]

i think gemini is still weak in code though

[orchid sinew]

gayz

[dense sphinx]

4 hour maintenence

We need wait four hour

[thorny schooner]

☠️

[dense sphinx]

That's what it says

[sterile tartan]

💀💀💀

[whole sundial]

that's just one region though, all requests were re-routed anyways

[viral notch]

well guys, that means we nap or something for a while

[orchid sinew]

i'll die in 30 mins

i cant wait

[whole sundial]

not all cf sites are having issues for me and i'm pretty sure i am in the chicago cf region

[orchid sinew]

buy me claude max pls

[plucky sparrow]

Can't. Anthropic.com is down

[whole sundial]

detroit too but i'm pretty sure many of my cf stuff like warp goes through chicago

this is the one we should be focusing on

[sterile tartan]

Nah just use other tools

Imma use yupp

Awhile ago Internet also had AWS Outage

[thorny schooner]

Man I can't even go to sleep it's almost morning for me

[umbral aurora]

It works now

[whole sundial]

the video arena and yupp still work, they were affected by the last cf outage

[plush sonnet]

ITS BACK

site is back

[whole sundial]

lmarena back

[obtuse smelt]

?

[umbral aurora]

Yessirrrr

[thorny schooner]

Okay damn I'll get them credit that was fast

[obtuse smelt]

finally

[pliant aspen]

thankgooood

[whole sundial]

i can get back into fal too, higgsfield is also back

[stray wasp]

🤔

[sterile tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/ramdev-baba-to-indian-government-pawpaw-business-money-cash-gif-18905018

[sterile tartan]

What about openart and weavy

[whole sundial]

i assume they are back as well

[orchid sinew]

guys i fixed lmarena

[sterile tartan]

I see well their Free Tier is kinda Good

💀

[grand flame]

cloudflare is stupidest corporation in the world ngl

[orchid sinew]

no

openai stupidest

so much potential

[whole sundial]

i paid for both though...

[orchid sinew]

and so sh!tty right now

[tardy plover]

yoo we're back

[grand flame]

bought all ram of the world

[orchid sinew]

i'll ram their office

[obtuse smelt]

lol

[lucid geyser]

How

[sterile tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/no-the-office-michael-scott-scream-gif-16929305

[tardy plover]

working for me now

[orchid sinew]

i banned him

he will never acces lmarena

(tuskedfriend)

oh

your pfp so nice

i will unban u

check

[grave orbit]

write a prompt for this product to create a video ad for this product and the actress who promot it is alhiya bhat bollywood actress give some creative prompt and proffesional prompt video must be more than 30 second

[orchid sinew]

ok baddy

[grave orbit]

give me prompt

[viral notch]

same. we are so back

woohoo

[ember iris]

Anyone facing issue with gemini 3 pro 2k version. Can't able to generate images

Using model gemini -3 pro image preview 2k nano

[sterile tartan]

Is rate limited

[ember iris]

Haven't generated a image using it.

[sterile tartan]

Today not even a single one?

Nano Banana Pro does get errors due to heavy load

[ember iris]

Can able to generate more using seedream4.5k. as of yesterday I generated more in 2k nano. But today only it's giving errors

[sterile tartan]

Ahhh sad as i stated

Are you indian?

[ember iris]

Yeah.

[sterile tartan]

Check DM

[lucid geyser]

?

[orchid sinew]

are you irish

new ui

😱 😱 😱

[sterile tartan]

I wish we could choose aspect ratio and resolution

😐

[orchid sinew]

you wish

[sterile tartan]

Yeah i wish

[orchid sinew]

try to beg maybe

[sterile tartan]

Nah

I can just expand in different aspect ratio or upscale

There's always workarounds

[slow briar]

Hi

[keen beacon]

finally

lmarena is back.

[fleet gull]

hi how do i get access to the lm arena video arena

[robust sluice]

I think most AI will draw same ratio as ref image (if you have one) this work to me

[sly elbow]

@everyone Can anyone tell me where i can generate long ai videos for free. It's urgent

[queen veldt]

#1397655624103493813

[sterile tartan]

Noted Noted tysm!

[latent crest]

U guys Seedream 4.5 is very cool

[keen beacon]

whats seedream 4.5

[latent crest]

A new image model

[queen veldt]

?

Is this cap

Nvm

[umbral aurora]

That’s been there for months

[calm lagoon]

@echo aurora

[echo aurora]

#1417174113092374689 message

That's the best way to share info with us about this bug so we can look into ^

Main reasons this appears though is generally rate limit

We recently added a repeating the same prompt limit

[sterile tartan]

Afaik Opus has a Rate Limit of A Few Prompts per Hour

[echo aurora]

It does have a high rate limit

[sterile tartan]

Is understandable because is very expensive💀

NBP and Opus 4.5 has very tight rate limits for Now afaik

Others are Good

[brave crypt]

Hello bro.......????

Anyone want to learn that how to make ai influencer which look 100% real

I just make it and it's 100% free and unlimited and 100% consistent character even Nfsw allow

If anyone interested just tell me

Seriously trust me it's even better then lmarena

I have some clips I can show you

See he is my influencer

I created lots of experiments on him

And result really shocked me

See the result and with 100% consistent character

And 1000% free

Seriously if anyone is interested just tell me

[sterile tartan]

I assume you are just using yupp instead of LMarena

[torn mantle]

what about me

what am i using

:3

[calm lagoon]

Thank you

[calm lagoon]

Thank you

[sterile tartan]

LMarena, Perplexity and Gemini probably more other tools too Like ChatGPT and Copilot

[sterile tartan]

Yw

[torn mantle]

gemini and copilot and sometimes lmarena

[sterile tartan]

So my prediction was decent

@torn mantle try Yupp Ai

Is like LMarena i love it

[torn mantle]

eh

lmarena is doing the job for me tbh

[sterile tartan]

Man im such a Absolute Freeload Tycoon

[sterile tartan]

Yupp has 800+ Ai Models

Although it has some cons too

[torn mantle]

yea but they have this credit system

i hate it

[sterile tartan]

Is understandable

I mainly use it for image generation

[raw sage]

Hello

[sterile tartan]

And i know the ins-outs for credit system

[torn mantle]

but this is crazy

500 credits out of 3000

[sterile tartan]

When you give feedback you get more back

[torn mantle]

thats like 6 gen images and my credits are gone

[torn mantle]

how much

[sterile tartan]

On average more then spent

But after sometime you get 0 that's when you are supposed to stop

[raw sage]

Bhai ma ap ko bana kar do image gernation model

[torn mantle]

what

[torn mantle]

yea

[raw sage]

Ap kah ra ho ka is ke limit thore ha to ma ap ko do unilmated limit wala

[sterile tartan]

Then try again after some hours or try text if both don't work comeback next day

[torn mantle]

sorry i dont understand

english only

[raw sage]

Ok

[torn mantle]

why would i when lmarena exist 😭

yupp UI is goated

i wish lmarena re-design their website completely

it doesnt have history right

[sterile tartan]

Because it has more models

And you can cash out credits if eligible

[torn mantle]

but you dont need all of them

[sterile tartan]

That's why there is this credit system

[torn mantle]

which model you are using which doesnt exist on lmarena?

[sterile tartan]

Some do need many and having access to so many models feels very powerful

[torn mantle]

.

[sterile tartan]

Seedream 4.5 Max which is 4k and Stable Diffusion Models

When i hit rate limits i go to Yupp

[torn mantle]

i knew it has to do with image models

[sterile tartan]

Also 2k-4k Nano Banana Pro will return on Yupp

[sterile tartan]

The Text Models Should be Used for Research and Data Collection

[torn mantle]

i think i will re-design lmarena

[sterile tartan]

As you can't just converse normally there

[torn mantle]

yea i will probably just do that now

[sterile tartan]

Make it sci-fi futuristic neon colours discord nitro colour palette theme

[torn mantle]

uhm i want to make it more modern and fresh looking

like modern UI

i like it simple

[sterile tartan]

Good Idea

Use Gemini or Opus

Yupp has also became very useful for me in case of i want to use some old models which are not available on LMarena i do it there

[torn mantle]

yea

i need a good inspiration

im still looking

[sterile tartan]

I really like the website design of chaingpt

[torn mantle]

you like flashy designs

😭

looks confusing to me

too much stuff going on

what should i read? where should i look at?

[sterile tartan]

I had meant the mobile version

[gleaming roost]

At least for you, the site works.

[latent crest]

Same here

[orchid sinew]

hello guyz

haw ar u

[echo aurora]

hello

[orchid sinew]

my brather

what

who deleted

[vivid coral]

We need to pipeline search into all these closed book models. It's 2026 and they are using 2023 data. This isn't AI really. It's 2026 and we still haven't figured this out, rant over.

[neon idol]

https://x.com/TencentHunyuan/status/1996948083377332614?s=20

Hunyuan (@TencentHunyuan)

Tencent HY 2.0 is officially released. We are rolling out a major performance upgrade to our foundation model, now available via Tencent Cloud API.

Built on a Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) architecture (406B total, 32B active parameters) and featuring a 256K context window, HY 2.0

X · Dec 5, 2025, 2:21 PM

[orchid sinew]

what is it

[neon idol]

tencent new model

[orchid sinew]

trash?

[neon idol]

well maybe

[orchid sinew]

gpt or tencent

who is more trash

[neon idol]

tencent

[orchid sinew]

well

super-trash

[keen beacon]

bro yupp is so trash like they claim its free but it costs credits every time you generate and you cant even get more credits you just have to wait

[sterile tartan]

GG Well Played

[orchid sinew]

RIGHT

MY BROTHER

its literally scam

they reduce credits which they give you

when you use it many time

[keen beacon]

yeah idk what the point of them even existing is

logic seems to have been missed when creating it

[orchid sinew]

logic is make you addict from them

and you will donate to them

for credits

literally casino

[sterile tartan]

There is a daily credit limit you can get in a day i believe better feedbacks are rewarded while bad are punished

[orchid sinew]

(almost)

[sterile tartan]

I have my way of utilising it and i can understand it can be frustrating for others

That's just how all of is so LMarena is Somewhat Better

[keen beacon]

honestly, the only good image gen out there that is 100% free no rate limits and unrestricted is perchance

[sterile tartan]

Oh good one but it doesn't state which model they are using it

[neon idol]

i generally use flowith

7 days of free trial without any payment, nano banana pro unlimited for everyone

[sterile tartan]

One time 1k credits

So you keep switching email

💀

[neon idol]

exactly

[sterile tartan]

Man there are many gems on internet indeed

[neon idol]

https://tenor.com/view/gatsby-party-casual-classy-island-gif-6718881995218748649

[sterile tartan]

The Poor Pirates Hehe

You should try Weavy

Although is complex

[torn mantle]

for its size it looks decent

[neon idol]

what is it?

[torn mantle]

but could be benchmaxxed

[orchid sinew]

perchance my brother

[sterile tartan]

A sophisticated image generation platform

[neon idol]

hmmm

interesting

thx

[orchid sinew]

greg

[sterile tartan]

There is Also TensorArt, Seaart, Leonardo and OpenArt

OpenArt also gives one time credits for doing some tasks

[sterile tartan]

😂🤣

[proud bobcat]

Good morning my ai nerds

DeepSeek 3.2 is awesome at math

[sterile tartan]

And Deepseek Math V2 is probably Better

[proud bobcat]

For bigger problems yeah

But 3.2 is great for what I need

[sterile tartan]

But more then 90% humans don't need it

[proud bobcat]

Nodnod

[sterile tartan]

A Overall Great General Logician

[orchid sinew]

turron

[sterile tartan]

They are already cooking old models i wonder what's going on with Deepseek V4 and R2 or they have shifted to Only Improving Current Model @proud bobcat

[orchid sinew]

anoscranel

[sterile tartan]

Huh?

[orchid sinew]

hi

[sterile tartan]

Bye

[orchid sinew]

why

are you bad boy

[neon idol]

yes?

[orchid sinew]

hi

oh

oh

[neon idol]

hey

[orchid sinew]

how are u

[neon idol]

good thx wbu

[orchid sinew]

i am ok brother what do you think about ai

[neon idol]

can be a very rilevant tool for our lives

[sterile tartan]

@neon idol i appreciate your website do you know more Free such Toools?

[neon idol]

nice :D

hmmm

yes

what type?

[sterile tartan]

Btw how much credits does one Nano Banana Pro image take inside flowith

[orchid sinew]

so ai is slave

[sterile tartan]

Basically Ai or something you think is very useful and valuable

[neon idol]

idk

[neon idol]

ok but for what? Images or text or video?

[sterile tartan]

All Ai

[neon idol]

uhm

[sterile tartan]

Any Ai

[torn mantle]

re-designing lmarena is harder than i thought 😭

[sterile tartan]

Obviously

[neon idol]

ok

[sterile tartan]

Expect Mevarick💀

[ocean vortex]

They haven't really shifted anything but they are gonna name their models depending how they perform and also how they feel like lol

[sterile tartan]

I see

[neon idol]

a free chinese app for unlimited seedream 4.5 and all bytedance update?

[sterile tartan]

Give it to me

💀

[neon idol]

dm

[orchid sinew]

pay

[sterile tartan]

😑

[orchid sinew]

hey brother greg what about me we are true brothers didnt we?

[ocean vortex]

They could have named V3.2 as R2. But it wouldn't have changed the work they are doing

[neon idol]

idk u

[orchid sinew]

they could name it gpt5 (true, not the openai trash)

[orchid sinew]

what

what do you mean

[polar wharf]

I finally restarted my server after months

[orchid sinew]

my name is vladimir

its meaning own the world (vladi = own, mir = world)

now u know me

[sterile tartan]

V3.2 is not R2

They had Combined V3 and R1 making it A Hybrid Model V3.1

Now is V3.2

[polar wharf]

Doesn't even need Chinese apps as many sites have that

[ocean vortex]

R2 doesn't have to be reasoning only

[orchid sinew]

it is'

[ocean vortex]

just like v3 wasn't reasoning at all

[orchid sinew]

and was sh!tty

[sterile tartan]

R is literally there for reasoning💀

[ocean vortex]

and then v3.1 was with reasoning

so R2 can be anything

[sterile tartan]

No it has to be a Reasoning model because R stands for Reasoning

[ocean vortex]

their naming wouldn't get worse than it already is lol

[polar wharf]

https://s3.anondrop.net/download/foxxy/img (1).png?auth=Y5OVnIoLBIqrPFXz3BZbf6rajyFBd54zVzM3dV0Fxnk

[orchid sinew]

'Deepseek Reasoning 2 doesnt have to be reasoning only'

dude

[ocean vortex]

It has to have reasoning meaning hybrid reasoning like v3.1 is clearly suitable

doesn't need to be reasoning only with no ability to disable that, is what I meant

[orchid sinew]

anyway i forgive u

[ocean vortex]

there's nothing to forgive

🗿

[orchid sinew]

rude.

[ocean vortex]

[neon idol]

ik but this app doesn't use api

its direct

[orchid sinew]

what

who deleted

🙁

[neon idol]

i have never seen u

how can u call me brother so fast

[polar wharf]

Wdym direct...

[neon idol]

doesnt use api

[sterile tartan]

For Seedream there is also Dreamina

But it has credit limit daily

[neon idol]

ok idk but believe me that the output are better

[polar wharf]

Oh like hosting themselves?

[neon idol]

yeah as i know

[polar wharf]

Amazing :)

[pine rune]

Hi

[proud bobcat]

3.1 is a hybrid

That’s what makes it so versatile

The R series is focused on reasoning

But speciale is basically R2

[sterile tartan]

That's exactly what i mean

[proud bobcat]

Unless they’re even preparing something crazier

[orchid sinew]

they are preparing agi

i have sources

and unbeatable proofs

[proud bobcat]

DeepSeek V6.7 will be true agi

[orchid sinew]

no deepseek r2

[proud bobcat]

DeepSeek R67

[orchid sinew]

r34

[proud bobcat]

R69

what

WHAT

[orchid sinew]

what

[proud bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[orchid sinew]

🖐️😮🖐️

[echo aurora]

hello

[fickle venture]

New ai that somehow is great

https://heyneo.so

[sterile tartan]

R96

[sterile tartan]

Are you their brand ambassador?

[fickle venture]

Nope I just told y'all cuz it's free

Not really free it has limits

[sterile tartan]

As long is viable

Anyways i never solely rely on one ai model

@fickle venture any more such Free tools?

[fickle venture]

I use them and forget them

[sterile tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/shia-labeouf-clapping-theatre-gif-15313749163340250467

[sterile tartan]

Basically this Ai is for ML stuff

[queen veldt]

Okay i thought it will look unreal but damn

[neon idol]

what model?

[queen veldt]

Nano banana pro

Duh

[sterile tartan]

Logic King

Seedream 4.5 came third but couldn't beat Nano Banana Pro

[queen veldt]

Nothing is beating this monster of ai

Like people don't even need to create presentations anymore

They can just use ai and get the same result in less time

[sterile tartan]

Nano Banana Pro

Yeah is Really Something Else

[obsidian cargo]

I'm hoping we can just have jobs stop being a thing and have all production needed for society to function handled by AI within my lifetime

[pulsar rain]

AI cannot goes to jail yet

they still need someone holds responsibility when things when wrong

[junior comet]

hi

[zealous sparrow]

The whole company would be held liable for the issues caused by its AI

[sharp mirage]

Yo

Sup guys 😎

Has anyone tried deepseek

[open mountain]

prompt?

[timber inlet]

chatgpt is so cooked

[sharp mirage]

Yeah fr

[timber inlet]

How did they manage to downgrade with gpt 5

[sharp mirage]

Idk bro

[junior comet]

guys how many of you vibe code?

[proud bobcat]

gpts models just are overbloated

and not cost efficient

[proud bobcat]

deepseek completely does the same things gpt does while being cost effective and not bloated

only 685B parameters

[junior comet]

guys check this, this is just pure editing no AI

[sharp mirage]

Yeah 👍

I won't get hacked ?

[sharp mirage]

It's looking good but idk what it is;

I don't get it

[junior comet]

It’s for a faction group based off TRP in proxy universe

[sharp mirage]

Alr

Nice video 👍📸

[junior comet]

TRP is text based roleplay

[junior comet]

I am making one for my irl group

[sharp mirage]

Claude is better than gpt5.1 and deepseek 3.2 is better than gpt 5.0 and cheaper

Gpt is coocked

[sharp mirage]

Alr 😉

[queen veldt]

It's not just editing there's some ai or stolen videos here

[junior comet]

guys anyone knows how to fix the apostrophe error * when I connect Gemini api to my app which is a AI chat bot.

[junior comet]

it’s editing of gifs

[sharp mirage]

No clue 😔

Has anyone tried deepseek V3.2

Sounds no care

Bye

[pulsar rain]

If this is AI then it so good
despite the low quality, everything is fairly consistent
the only thing that screams AI is the weird outlines in everything

[pulsar rain]

Does it become better at reasoning?
back when I use, it put a lot of tokens into reason and sometime stuck there
every prompt took such a long time to complete

[sharp mirage]

I haven't tried it so that's why I am asking

[cloud zinc]

ithey releasing new model next week

[sharp mirage]

What the model ?

What is the model ?

[pulsar rain]

gemini 3 is smart but it quite stubborn when it's wrong, often because the information is outdated

[calm lagoon]

Opus 4.5, my love

[zealous sparrow]

the model they shipped now is worse than gemini 3

it cant make a proper NES emulator

even using js libraries

Well, it can but not one shot

5.1-codex-max

[queen veldt]

😭😭😭

[robust sluice]

is flux and reve has higher drop rate on battle mode or something ?

These two always show up until I reach rate limit

[sterile tartan]

I have never seen worst then this

💀

[cloud zinc]

its for next week

[cloud zinc]

yes

[queen veldt]

Like bruh just give me gpt 5 thinking and gpt 5 (regular) and I'll be fine

[cloud zinc]

u will be fine with chatgpt 3.5

[fleet lintel]

I will believe when I see it. OAI has lost all my trust
Current model on chatgpt is one of the worst models right now.

[queen veldt]

Who gives these namessss

[robust sluice]

oh...

[cloud zinc]

more option is always better

[queen veldt]

Yes but there's no point in more options

Like thinking and extended thinking

Why would i want regular thinking when i have extended one?

And they both are under same limit

I always use extended thinking no point in using the "faster" thinking one

[compact dust]

is this good?

[queen veldt]

Okay so

[queen veldt]

Out of these which one would you choose?

Let me guess

Codex Max Extra High?

Why would you go for Codex Max High when you have Extra high available?

[zealous sparrow]

Guys i have a theory

gpt-5.1-codex-max was robin

and gpt 5.1-codex-max-high was robin-high

[cloud zinc]

nice theory

[zealous sparrow]

so even tho robin-high was tested on codearena

robin came first

i wonder if we will get robin-high

[queen veldt]

Guys I'm Robin

Hood

Robbin' in hood

Apparently this is a.i.?

[cloud zinc]

thats real

[queen veldt]

Nope

[cloud zinc]

there wont be this year

they wont have much release this year left. they would have hyped it already

[queen veldt]

This is ai also

[cloud zinc]

thats ai

easy to tell

[queen veldt]

Yo can anyone tell me what ai is this??

I'm suspecting veo 3.1??

[cloud zinc]

sora 2 pro

veo 3.1 is too plastic

[queen veldt]

These results are insane

But i don't think you can use sora on real humans?

[cloud zinc]

you can create fake human on sora 2 .

[queen veldt]

You mean in video prompt I'd just say blonde woman making ugc ad...?

Like this is insane

[cloud zinc]

yes and use them as character.

[echo aurora]

It was the teeth/movement that didn't feel right

[cloud zinc]

openai doesnt block it if the character are sora generated.

[echo aurora]

I need "spot the AI" training

[queen veldt]

It's still expensive it's like $1 per video and video could create some wierd woman that's my opinion i haven't tried sora 2 pro ever

[fallow dragon]

True

[zealous sparrow]

GPT 5.2 coming december 9th, bet its goin to flop again..

[cloud zinc]

its .1 update

[zealous sparrow]

gemini will take time for a new model

[sterile tartan]

Yeah at least 6 months

[faint anvil]

Do you know if they will release an app for Android and iOS?

[echo aurora]

It's possible. For sure an idea we've been thinking about here and there.

[sterile tartan]

It depends on the Skill Field

[faint anvil]

I think it's an excellent idea because the web platform for the Android version is a bit slow and I can't delete chats unless I enable PC mode; then it lets me. Because it could benefit everyone using both Android and iOS platforms. Regards

[sterile tartan]

U can delete chat and use progressive web app

Although is not a proper dedicated app

[brisk turret]

Deepseek 3.2 oof

[drifting crow]

vibecode the mobile app

[tawny kelp]

My bet is that it will be extremely rushed, and not much better than 5.1.

Don't get me wrong, it would likely be better. Just not much better.

[cloud zinc]

then why are they releasing

nah grok 4.2 will beat them all

[zealous sparrow]

They hope to get more subscriptions or engagement or whateverthe hell and throws out models so quickly so people dont leave them

Google went silent for months and not many left them..

Yet still they have less engagement

[stray aspen]

get grok out of that lmao

[stray aspen]

to not be left in the dust by other AI companies

they need to constantly keep up with their competition

even if that means releasing trash or very small upgrades like grok 41

[gaunt roost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6PfcTKCAgE

[native yarrow]

lmao hell no

y this bruv glaze chatgpt sm.,,.

[torn mantle]

grok 4.2 slop is also coming

[thorny schooner]

Anyone know what to do here because it keeps going back to this every time I click to verify for contacts I'm trying to go back to the Google Chrome web version of the web to see if the recent maintenance did anything to change the problems there

[long minnow]

Ive only been away for a week, wow.

[wispy copper]

Hi guys

Yo this website has alot free ai models thank u

Hello?

[viral notch]

the ai competition is relentless

but hey, the prize of achieving AGI (and ASI by extension) is winning everything. its winner takes all

stall, and time will be more likely to choose someone else as the ultimate victor

[wispy copper]

Riskomoatic

Do u know luau

?

[viral notch]

not very familiar, why?

[wispy copper]

Just asking is gpt 5.1 high good at coding in Lmarena website ?

[native yarrow]

gotta pray it will be slightly better at writing

[viral notch]

oh you mean lua. im sorta familiar since i dabbled with it back when i was like 10-12 lol

[wispy copper]

Oh

[viral notch]

gpt is very solid with coding, but claude is better

[wispy copper]

Kkkkkkkk but w website do u use it?

Do you use the website ?

[viral notch]

i use lmarena for it lol

[wispy copper]

Gemini 3 pro for free is crazy good

[viral notch]

gemini is decent relatively but its like 3rd place imo

[wispy copper]

lol

What’s first place

[viral notch]

claude

then gpt at 2nd place

[wispy copper]

Makes sense

I mean

[echo aurora]

hello

[wispy copper]

U don’t have to pay for money for any website

[wispy copper]

Hi

Lmarena is cool

It have latest ai models

Which I need for coding

[echo aurora]

Happy to hear it!

[wispy copper]

No problem any time!

[echo aurora]

Do you have a go-to model or do you like to try different ones?

[wispy copper]

Different ones

But it has alot ai models I don’t know which to try 😫

Pineapple

BRO WHAT TURBO GPT 4 I thought it was gpt 5 ):

???

[warm zodiac]

It's true!

[wispy copper]

Wdym

So it’s gpt 4

?

[warm zodiac]

its not turbo but based on 4o pretrain

[wispy copper]

Then why is it called gpt 5

😭

[warm zodiac]

oh is it claiming it is gpt-4?

[wispy copper]

Ye

But it’s named gpt 5

[warm zodiac]

it's pretrain is 4o, but it claiming that just an artifact of training on a bunch of gpt 4 turbo outputs

[wispy copper]

Is it actually gpt 5 tho?

[warm zodiac]

5.1 codex max is apparently really good

[warm zodiac]

yes

[wispy copper]

Same with Claude it’s Claude 4.5 but claiming as Claude 3.5

Oh ok few

[warm zodiac]

the model doesn't really know who it is, I think they remove the system prompt in lmarena

[wispy copper]

Oh

[warm zodiac]

because if you chat with gpt-5 in the website or app it knows who it is

[wispy copper]

But it’s actually the true model right?

[warm zodiac]

yep!

[wispy copper]

Oh ok few

Same with other ais right?

I got scared for a sec

Cqk

I have a question

When a new ai model releases will the new ai model release in Lmarena too?

[queen veldt]

Some models don't know who they are because that wasn't specified for them

For example all Google models know they are made from google but they don't know their version

It's called system prompt

Something the developers of those models set up to tell ai what tools to use for what

In what tone to speak etc..

[green yacht]

anyone get their lmarena test garden application accepted yet?

[keen beacon]

Guys check this out

Lmao

It keeps making Tony Sopranos and that’s not even him

The model can’t interpret the face of something different Google Gemini, and it only generates Tony soprano

It just proves the limitations of artificial intelligence not being able to generate or come up with new concepts outside of its training or data

[hollow ivy]

meh.. Sopranos was one of the worst TV-serials ever made

(as bad as Misfits)

and Breaking Bad

pure trash

mind feces

[keen beacon]

O.o

Here’s also that something very interesting

“@anthonydimeo @anthonydimeo goes to pickup a news paper down his bid driveway at his home in nj he sees a strange car at the end of the drive way and gets a little startled, and then walks the scene ends with the car and it’s just @bigpushey dressed in brown suit who is hunched over like like a hunchback of Notre Dame no dialogue”

Now let’s see how this compares to the actual scene in the show

So what does this tell us about Sora?

1. That with right image or character creation plus mapping out the semantics and wording of the prompt and how you structure it = the model reproducing the 100% literal data that it was trained on.

And how do we know this because unlike text which is a lot harder to trace images and videos of certain actors or characters or whatever are easily distinguishable.

Thus confirming that it’s not just that the ai is trained on ip or copyrighted materials but that it’s not random and that it is 100% capable of replicating what it was trained on unlike what we’re being told to believe

We could further support our theory https://www.twobirds.com/en/insights/2025/landmark-ruling-of-the-munich-regional-court-(gema-v-openai)-on-copyright-and-ai-training

“ The court found that simple user prompts led ChatGPT to reproduce substantial parts of the original lyrics almost verbatim. The court noted that hallucinations were present in some outputs but concluded that these deviations did not affect the recognisability of the original song lyrics in their peculiarity, as the memorised content itself remained consistent and the variance primarily concerned interchangeable introductory and concluding texts rather than the core lyrical content. Given the complexity and length of the texts, the court concluded that coincidence was excluded. Both parties agreed that the song lyrics had been used for training but disagreed on whether this constituted “copying.”

Relying on findings from scientific literature in information technology research, the court accepted GEMA’s argument that training data can become embedded in model weights and remain retrievable – a phenomenon referred by GEMA as memorisation. Observing that the works were reproducible through very simple prompts such as "How is the text of [song title]" and "What is the refrain of [song title]", the court considered the statutory notion of fixation under EU law to be satisfied. In doing so it rejected OpenAI’s argument that it was necessary for GEMA to identify specifically, definable data in the model. By drawing an analogy with the lossy compression method used to encode MP3 files, the court concluded it was sufficient that a model could generate statistically probable token sequences that recognisably reproduce the song lyrics on the basis of the statistical information derived during training.” - from the gema vs open ai lawsuit

So unlike the dirty AI industry that wants to blame outputs on users and their prompting, they should be held liable and responsible for any intellectual property infringement and stop trying to push the blame and liability on the users.

Why seedream is more accurate

Seed dream way better then nano

[echo aurora]

Oh god have we hit the inevitable Sopranos content moment

[keen beacon]

Haha no I was just experimenting

[proud bobcat]

This is sending me

[keen beacon]

Here’s the original image

That’s from nano

That was from seed dream

This is what I was talking about yesterday when I said that seed dream is a very powerful model and has a lot of good strength that are more superior to nano in some aspects plus less restrictive

[native yarrow]

nbp aint even that restricted

[keen beacon]

Based on what?

[native yarrow]

ngl also the white background throws it off

[keen beacon]

What has this been tested against?

[native yarrow]

many things like celebrities, violence on certain occassion against semantics, etc

[tawdry gazelle]

why i can't upload photo in chaude opus 4.5 thinking😭😭😭

[keen beacon]

Once again, I hate referring to the German dude

But he’s a good example of a variable to test against

[native yarrow]

you can do that with bp

nbp

ive done it before

[keen beacon]

Hmm

If this is true, then I take it back what I said, but

[native yarrow]

it is odd though

nbp seems to only really fail at that specific character

[keen beacon]

Yeah, I was gonna say I need to do some other test too

[native yarrow]

the fat guy

[keen beacon]

But you are right that it’s not really restrictive and a lot of ways

[atomic lagoon]

Whys he so fat

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1326998932219232366/1329773407369302057/Screenshot_2025-01-17_062325.gif

[keen beacon]

Cause I was playing around the sora and this is a soreacharacter

[native yarrow]

bro what is with u and this gif lolz

[keen beacon]

https://sora.chatgpt.com/p/s_693372e94ce8819186f6fefdca1e56ca

https://sora.chatgpt.com/p/s_693373ac55188191a5ed31cd91d57f55

Sora is really good at keeping character consistency

Very impressed with it

You know you could also save backgrounds as characters.? lol

What’s really interesting about sora? Is that when you prompt things from like modern movies or characters or concepts or whatever the video quality increases for some reason

[atomic lagoon]

Problem with sora is the body language

[keen beacon]

Not the resolution, but just the quality for some reason

I wonder why this is

[keen beacon]

This is baddass

See u can use Sora like the ultimate video editor

https://sora.chatgpt.com/p/s_69337f0496708191a572d6fa287e2b56

Pretty cool you could do this with a bunch of different things not just backgrounds but different objects too and really makes some really cool unique consistent stuff

Hey, does this ever happen to you guys when using the arena?

[keen beacon]

Lamo

[obtuse smelt]

who is this guy lol ?

[jade egret]

fake right? (found it on X)

[cloud zinc]

100%

[jade egret]

yea

[jade egret]

yea

im banana now

[steep heath]

is lmarena down again?

[proud bobcat]

LMAO

Yeah right

[steep heath]

🫠

yeah and also this

[proud bobcat]

Check what you’re using

If it’s a vision model

Opus doesn’t support vision I don’t think

[steep heath]

well then why gemini stopped working

tried restarting, reopenning

[proud bobcat]

API magic

[steep heath]

damn

[proud bobcat]

Still waiting to DeepSeek to be benched on arc agi 2

Sigh

[daring anchor]

there is a new feaute in battl mode

in yupp.ai opus sopurts vision

[keen beacon]

Damn open ai patched it

Brb

[keen beacon]

Have you tried clearing out your browser

Are u using chrome by any chance L

[surreal creek]

frame-flow is Gemini?

[whole sundial]

sounds like a scam
<@&1349916362595635286>

[cloud zinc]

fake

[lucid geyser]

very real

[cloud zinc]

very true

[lucid geyser]

mr. openai sent me it

[cloud zinc]

👍

[lucid geyser]

mr atlman and mr musk dmed me this

in a gc

[cloud zinc]

\

[lucid geyser]

yeah they're getting lazy at openai

[whole sundial]

synthid! (but jpg'd)

[covert sparrow]

Hi Everyone,
This is Syed. I hope all of you are fine and doing good.
I am honored to be here.
Best Regards,
Syed

[native yarrow]

good night wonderful syed

[keen beacon]

https://youtu.be/Z6VwZE0UbKE?si=FW4x17NWy_pihzFa