general

[spark python]

The word cat wasnt in the prompt😭

Im actually surprised

[keen beacon]

Bro, I could generate any president using just emojis lol

Not on Sora

[spark python]

on what?

[keen beacon]

They’re super strong guard rails, especially on cameos

[spark python]

Veo?

[keen beacon]

Nvm tried

[proud bobcat]

just make bettermodels

[keen beacon]

You know you can use emojis as prompting

[proud bobcat]

🤷

[keen beacon]

Knowing the sequence and combination

[cloud zinc]

they removed the word cameo

[keen beacon]

Ya I know lol

Hilarious

[cloud zinc]

https://calawyers.org/intellectual-property-law/cameo-sues-openai-over-cameo-trademark-use-in-sora-app/

now its "cast in"

[spark python]

I know you can even use binary and backwards language

[keen beacon]

Yes

Morris code

[spark python]

I didnt try that

[keen beacon]

There’s a lot you can do, but it’s not necessarily obfuscating, which is sometimes critical, but it’s more important the words you use and the structure of your prompt and how you structure your sentences or whatever you wanna call it

The combination sequence and the choosing of words is probably the most critical

It’s crazy how sensitive they are to like language and just characters in general

See

So now I’m phase 2 (the video was generated using the image without a prompt)

That almost sounds like Patrick star from SpongeBob 🤣

[proud bobcat]

are we serious

[spark python]

Cool I wonder what's next

[spark python]

With that as reference?

[hollow imp]

Imagine gpt 5.1 pro announcement

[cloud zinc]

movie names are not blocked

[dry siren]

is Gemini 3 taking forever for anyone else?

[brittle steppe]

are you taking about image creator (banana nano ) ?

[echo aurora]

Can't say I've been hearing similar reports. Looking into.

[echo aurora]

For text, right?

[empty stump]

when is gemini 3 flash

[keen beacon]

No works

1/2 and then it fails

I’ll try to generate one more one out of three to see if the air persist

[brittle steppe]

yeah image too

[bright temple]

yep its down for me

[keen beacon]

Hey, I’m curious for those that it’s down what browser. Are you guys using?

[dry siren]

Yeah just text. Was asking for advice on google sheets haha

[dry siren]

Chrome.

[keen beacon]

Ty

[dry siren]

But I just tested through my paid API on AI studio and Gemini is fine there

[spark python]

Did the goku one fail?

[keen beacon]

Do you have any extensions on your browser?

[keen beacon]

No

[echo aurora]

How long are these generally taking? Even for simple prompts?

[keen beacon]

I’d say up to a minute when I was experiencing it earlier

Sometimes even longer

[dry siren]

5 minutes at least. I keep having to refresh after a bit.

[spark python]

So now you are going to reference the super sayan form?

[echo aurora]

Are you noticing the same when using a different browser by chance?

[keen beacon]

I’ve been reading online about the errors and some of these errors people have been having all the way back to 2024 on Google lol

[thorny cove]

whyd they remove claude

[keen beacon]

And a lot of what I’m reading people are using chrome

[dry siren]

I’m on a Chromebook so I’m locked into just chrome but it does it in both normal windows and incognito

[thorny cove]

red line of death

[thorny cove]

so yeah

the ai death thing

[thorny cove]

is what i think is happening

[keen beacon]

https://deepwiki.com/ehdwn1/LMArena-Api/3.3-error-handling-and-recovery

[dry siren]

Gemini works fine in AI studio for me. I just use the arena for smaller requests as to not use up my paid API

[thorny cove]

yall

[keen beacon]

That kinda makes no sense to me while you use it for smaller

[thorny cove]

which one is better

[atomic lagoon]

Same, anytime I need an API for it I just go to lmarena

[thorny cove]

qwen or glm

[thorny cove]

theres an lmarena api?

[keen beacon]

No, this is probably outdated. I’m not sure but from reading it. It sounds like a lot of the same kind of issues people are having.

It has something to do with chrome from what I’m reading also

Maybe extensions or something or people trying to build scrapers

[echo aurora]

Okay, thanks for the info. I've tested a few text & image gens and can't say I'm seeing an issue. However, noticed another user havign some unrelated issues also using a Chromebook. I'd be surprised if that was the case, but starting to wonder if LMArena doesn't perform well on Chromebooks.

[thorny cove]

actually maybe each chat only has a number of like api token whatevers per conversation and once that is reached then it wont work

[keen beacon]

I don’t think that would matter because isn’t brave, and Firefox also built on the chrome engine

Because earlier somebody was having the same problem, but it was with the brave browser

[thorny cove]

firefox isnt built on chromium is it

[dry siren]

I’ll let you know if I notice anything else

[keen beacon]

I need to verify that

1 sec

I could be completely mistaken

Ofc

[keen beacon]

🤣🤣

[dry siren]

Haha

[keen beacon]

Dude, the Internet is so polluted

Trying to find some basic information you gotta read through like 6000 words

[thorny cove]

ium sure that

opera and firefox

arent chromium

[keen beacon]

https://www.clrn.org/is-firefox-chromium-based/

[thorny cove]

gx is chromium

[keen beacon]

It’s ridiculous looking this up

[dry siren]

Yeah google search sucks these days.

[thorny cove]

google top search engine

[keen beacon]

https://smallusefultips.com/is-firefox-built-on-chromium/

[fickle venture]

Guys is deepseek 3.2 updated on their official website

[keen beacon]

It’s like I want a simple answer is it or is it not? I don’t wanna read to 6000 paragraphs.

And come out more confused

[dry siren]

Gotta wade through neck deep SEOs, Ads and Reddit results

[fickle venture]

But it can't find the one your looking for the best one for me is: Brave Yandex

[keen beacon]

That’s how it should be

Do you know what the worst is baking recipes

If you wanna look up how to cook simple chocolate chip cookies

Dear Lord, have mercy lol

[spark python]

Pineapple why cant I say pee?

[polar wharf]

claude down here too? wtf is going on

[keen beacon]

Honestly guys, I think I’m going crazy

[dry siren]

Gotta read an essay about their dead grandmother and neighbourhood gossip to find out how to make apple cobbler

[keen beacon]

I feel like I’m moving every single day over and over when I come on this discord

[thorny cove]

😭

[keen beacon]

That’s a problem with the Internet

[thorny cove]

didnt answer my question just straight away started talking about spying on data

[keen beacon]

I should’ve never gone down this rabbit hole

[dry siren]

I miss the good old days when search engines actually searched. Bring back Jeeves

[fickle venture]

I mean who made the Model?

[keen beacon]

One day in the future, my friend’s AI is going to be no different than search engine like Google

Except a more sophisticated and controlled environment

We each search will cost a token

[keen beacon]

I hope it’s not Google that wins the AI race I pray to the good Lord

[thorny cove]

israel probably

[keen beacon]

I hope it’s meta

[thorny cove]

google wins the ai race and the next time you go on calculator and do 2+2 it starts a long winded explanation on why it equals 3

[keen beacon]

😂😂

[thorny cove]

wtf howd he do that

[fickle venture]

Alot of people use Google Features and softwares and OpenAi doesn't have a single thing. So the race is just for Google at this point

[keen beacon]

You guys wouldn’t believe the statistic on how much Internet traffic chrome gets

Just the browser itself

A ridiculous amount of global Internet traffic

It pays Apple like billions of dollars so Google is the default search engine on Safari

[thorny cove]

https://tenor.com/view/brenskid-skid-open-source-neonite-gif-26035974

[keen beacon]

I like that 2026 part

[verbal nimbus]

Why not Firefox

[thorny cove]

gotta be ahead of the times

[keen beacon]

If you ever have a time look up ChatGPT 6 from the year 2024

The stupid predictions people had lol

[thorny cove]

EdgeHTML dont fail me now.....

[thorny cove]

god i miss old microsoft edge before microsoft cracked down on minecraft modding

[keen beacon]

That’s the other Saint that owns large amounts of infrastructure

We’re screwed either way we look at it Microsoft or Google

An apple is trying to jam its way in the center

Meta above the ski

[thorny cove]

i witnessed someone spanking it in vrchat so i dont really like meta anymore

[keen beacon]

What is it about these tech companies that makes them go so out of touch

I think it’s greed

It’s hard to even say this, but Google was once good and worked and did what It needed to and you’d get results and discover things

Now I feel like I’m in a prison. I can’t escape with no alternative.

[keen summit]

Hello

[dry siren]

hi

[obsidian cargo]

man I hope they fix speciale soon it was kinda unique

[verbal nimbus]

How was it?

[peak sapphire]

Why is Deepseek 3.2 special not in Lmarena, even though it says in the announcements that it was added to LMArena

[obsidian cargo]

In a word? Specialized. If I ranted about some game or story idea to any other model, it'd react in kind. speciale would try to organize my thoughts into a surprisingly well organized pitch document… but would usually time out before it could finish. sometimes it'd time out before it finished thinking. Cuz it really did spend a lot of time thinking. But you could read its thoughts while it was thinking and they were kinda solid.

[verbal nimbus]

I had the timeout issues with V3.2 as well

[obsidian cargo]

yeah the speciale timeout issues were most of the time though.

[zealous sparrow]

removed till speciale gets fixed with its timeout issues and hallucination

[verbal nimbus]

I see it as problematic if those matches are forfeited

Because it's essentially filtering out prompts that the model struggled with

[peak sapphire]

Okay

Thanks

[spark python]

I think I understand it now

[keen beacon]

Yeah, there’s really nothing to it, bro you just gotta be smarter than the AI

[proud bobcat]

ouchie

[keen beacon]

And of course you get it, bro no doubt

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-you-smart-smart-gif-4495825

[keen beacon]

Source?

[steep oriole]

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[lofty frigate]

Is it me when you vote it doesn't show the models?

[proud bobcat]

this is openrouter

this is right on their front page

LMAO

YIKES

mistral might catch up to openai at this rate 😭

[keen beacon]

Anybody who’s in the first position like open ai was he gonna have the same headaches?

[proud bobcat]

elaborate

[keen beacon]

In biology, the "Red Queen hypothesis" states that you must run as fast as you can just to stay in the same place. The number one spot, OpenAI sets the benchmark that everyone else (Google, Anthropic, Meta) is specifically building their ai to beat.

The number one spot becomes the single target for the entire industry. Competitors don't have to discover what works they just have to replicate

Being in the number one spot is like being a big lightning rod

Lawsuits regulation, public opinion public backlash

You can’t really take any risks and you don’t have a lot of moving leverage for mistakes

And I think in the AI industry in particular, I think it requires risk and being innovative, but that’s hard to do when you have hundreds of millions of users and people that rely on it and use it for work and other means, you can’t just make those kind of big changes or take those kind of risks without affecting your customer base

The tall poppy syndrome aka losing the ability to fail quietly once you’re the champ, you can’t be the underdog

[keen beacon]

I hope that makes sense

[proud bobcat]

i agree in a way but openai has the tools to just

not fumble the bag

[keen beacon]

I agree

That’s a very sharp perspective

[proud bobcat]

what kind of business decision is it to wait almost an entire year to release a finetune of your model (5.1)

seriously?

[keen beacon]

Well, that’s what we were talking about earlier the context

Because there’s also a computing and a power shortage

Not only them, but Google and a lot of these other companies are bottled neck

[proud bobcat]

while that is true, openai gets sweet deals from nvidia

[keen beacon]

So is everybody else?

[proud bobcat]

you dont understand

[keen beacon]

I probably don’t you’re right

[proud bobcat]

nvidia is very, very close with openai

theyre one of their biggest investors

in return for probably access to some of their private research, nvidia gives them great compute deals

which is why openai never had to bother with optmization

and thats what propelled them to the level they are at today

[keen beacon]

I think you should look into Nvidia a little more lol

And the business that they have currently going on

And there’s one more company you should look into

[proud bobcat]

i know nvidia is also having troubles

their 50 series was a terrible launch

[keen beacon]

Have you ever heard of the company called core weave?

[ocean vortex]

This is understandable. Gemini3 is still recent + Opus4.5 + Speciale

[proud bobcat]

not to my recollection

[keen beacon]

Well, if you ever have the time check this out

https://youtu.be/arU9Lvu5Kc0?si=5GNTbqtjw6Qv-JCG

This breaks everything down really really good

Just how intertwined and the deals everybody has

Including Google Microsoft, it just shows how everything is set up. It’s pretty startling

But yeah, core is a huge contributor to the problem

Since they’re the literal infrastructure of AI

[proud bobcat]

hot take but if openai falls we are going to see a huge market collapse in the tech center

[ocean vortex]

On a somewhat related note... I think nvidia stock gonna burst

[proud bobcat]

i mean

[keen beacon]

The government will bail it out

[proud bobcat]

when r1 released 5 trillion was wiped from the stock market

[ocean vortex]

This current bubble is unsustainable

[torn mantle]

oh

lol

I would take it with a grain of salt since its openrouter

but still

[proud bobcat]

probably not

[keen beacon]

The money in AI is so intertwined. The government is gonna have to bail it out lol

[torn mantle]

oai got hit really bad

[keen beacon]

If you ever have the time to watch that video

It kind of breakdown exactly what I mean

[proud bobcat]

still kind of wild

30% decrease

[keen beacon]

https://youtu.be/n5sdfEqNkGI?si=d80Jh7hVc7YBR-Mc

[torn mantle]

yea -30%

lol

[keen beacon]

This one focuses more on core weave

[torn mantle]

no wonder they are panicking

[keen beacon]

Just look into core weave

[ocean vortex]

Nvidia stock is also rising because you have everyone making silly startup ideas from API wrappers. Once people realize how useless most of those are, the trend is going to reverse

[keen beacon]

They are a huge massive player and all of this

Coreweave

[proud bobcat]

oh absolutely

the ai market is a volatile one because ai has no physical value

just like crypto

[keen beacon]

Actually, that’s a little misconception

Because the datacenters and the chips themselves have physical value and demand

[proud bobcat]

but the ai itself does not

[keen beacon]

True

[proud bobcat]

i have a feeling smaller ai is going to become more and more popular as the capability advances

[keen beacon]

But the argument could also be said about a lot of other parts of the Internet

For example, ads, they don’t really have no value unless they sell a product

And I guess on the other hand too, you could argue that the power being used

[proud bobcat]

ads are invested in in order to pay back the cost with more sales, so yeah ig but its an ancient concept

[keen beacon]

Well, there’s nothing new underneath the sun

The industry is very complex and it’s very shady and very dirty

If you ever do have the time and watch those videos, you’ll understand about the venture capital and the investors

And the circular deals

Google is also in because they financed some of open AI data center usage

[spark python]

Blah blah 300 trilion to Israel

[keen beacon]

https://www.datacenters.com/news/openai-s-strategic-partnership-with-google-cloud-powering-the-next-wave-of-ai-innovation

[proud bobcat]

can the sun just collapse

[keen beacon]

You know how much money be wiped out

If open AI failed

[spark python]

The fact they added ads into the app is crazy

[proud bobcat]

honestly (i am no economics expert) but i see one of two things happening after this collapse

chinese/foreign ais gain a ton of activity and investment (cheaper to integrate and efficient) and Google + Anthropic become the titans of SOTA

or

extreme recession resulting in the ai market being pushed back a year or more

[keen beacon]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-06-17/musk-s-xai-burning-through-1-billion-a-month-as-costs-pile-up

[keen beacon]

I think it’s naïve to think that the Chinese will always have open source models

Just like open, AI went from a nonprofit to a profit

I think we will see the same with Chinese models once the objective of market consolidation reaches its goal

This is just a guess but if opening I failed we’re talking about 2 to 3 trillion wiped out from the market

It would be a AI winter freeze

Equity, unpaid debt, market cap contagion

[spark python]

and 2 trillion to israel🙄

[keen beacon]

Well duh

I’m not sure the last time you looked at a map

Of the Middle East

[spark python]

Im in europe gang

I dont look at maps of the middle east😭

[keen beacon]

Anything stand out to you?

[spark python]

actually nvm

Im like 1 country away from turkey😭😭

[keen beacon]

Are you in eastern Europe or

[spark python]

or 2 I guess

Yeah

[keen beacon]

Where are you Georgia?

Armenia?

Or balkins?.,

[spark python]

Yeah balkans

You looked at the right side of turkey

[stuck cloud]

Which video model do you guys think is the better of yesterday's releases between Kling 01 and runway 4.5?

[keen beacon]

01 is good

I have not tried runway

[spark python]

What happened to kling i cant use it at all

On their site

[keen beacon]

You have to use their new portal use new portal

[spark python]

How do I do that

[stuck cloud]

Have you had a chance to compare 01 to other leading video models?

[spark python]

man I miss it when their credits were bugged and I had like 900 credits for free

[keen beacon]

They have video reference now

https://youtu.be/MSjDGFqCcBE?si=kP4Cw8bc6N29MQih

They’re calling it the nano banana for video generation

You know it’s interesting about this company. They started off in a university.

[proud bobcat]

we're doomed

[keen beacon]

Y

[spark python]

I would use it if THEYR SERVERS WERENT FULL AND THEY ARE MAKING ME PAY 6 BUCKS

[keen beacon]

It’s a high-quality service

[spark python]

I lost 4 euro s gambling today so nuh uh

[keen beacon]

Yeah, this is no different than gambling to some extent🤣

[spark python]

I mean

Its not the nano banana of ai video

[keen beacon]

No, it’s true. Everybody knows that generation is no different than gambling or a slot machine. You never know what you’re gonna get.

[proud bobcat]

im sure some will be proprietary but i think glm, deepseek, and kimi would rather be open

it gives them a unique market

makes sure they arent saturated

[spark python]

I dont think it can make copyrighted ips just from text with accuracy

[keen beacon]

Yes, I get what you’re saying but I’m saying what happens when that goal is achieved and they reach market dominance or whatever their objectives are

[spark python]

Yeah but I lost

[keen beacon]

Part of the territory champ

[proud bobcat]

it depends if they have a super duper good architecture

[keen beacon]

To be honest, I know just as much as you I’m just speculating

All I know at the end of the day is business

And whatever is best for business that will prevail

[proud bobcat]

at the very least deepseek and glm will probably remain open because a lot of deepseek and glm's market comes from roleplay

uncensored roleplay

and for it to be uncensored their models need to be hosted on other platforms

ie novita

[spark python]

There are sites that rely on that doing NSFW characters

[proud bobcat]

janitorai is the biggest one

(which i am, sadly, an avid user of)

[spark python]

I didnt try them all

I tried the tavern

[keen beacon]

It doesn’t mean they have to close them fully what I’m saying is if the opportunity arises, they’ll create new models that won’t be open source they’ll keep the ones that are open obviously available

[spark python]

Is it addicting?

[keen beacon]

But if you want new updates or new features or new models, then if they choose to close it off, it doesn’t matter who relies on it or not if they want a new update they’re gonna have to to pay

Or they can keep running it on outdated models God forbid

Meta was once open source and now there are rumors that their next big model is not gonna be open source it’s gonna be close source

We saw from open AI is an example from nonprofit to profit

So this whole industry is very volatile and anything is possible, especially with how much money is on the line

[spark python]

Oh lord

[proud bobcat]

shhhh

we dont talk about those

shhhh

OF COURSE A MAFIA BOSS IS ONT HE FRONT PAGE

😭

[spark python]

I scrolled a bit

[proud bobcat]

makes it even worse cause ytou cant fine tune it now

[keen beacon]

The market for that kind of material and even NSFW companionship, and everything in between is probably gonna be worth more than probably coding and agents

[proud bobcat]

i hate meta

[proud bobcat]

it already is, check openrouter

[keen beacon]

I wouldn’t be surprised look at the adult industry on the Internet

[proud bobcat]

deepseek v3

[keen beacon]

Massive, massive, massive, massive massive

[spark python]

So are u a girl? Cus this seems targeted for girls who want ai boyfriends

[proud bobcat]

see, i just like deepseek because it has decent prose and i can write nice romance plots

[proud bobcat]

oh brother

you havent even seen the other bots

the female bots are down right AWFUL

[spark python]

Answer the question 😭🙏

[proud bobcat]

oh yes im male

forgor

[spark python]

Oh we are cooked😭

Me and u

[proud bobcat]

can a man be bi

😭

[spark python]

I guess

[proud bobcat]

janitorai is also the highest quality mind you

like these are fully done bots with people who know the inner workings and how to squeeze the best out of certain models

[spark python]

I already have my own poison using chatgpt

[keen beacon]

You gotta keep it one Hundo

Don’t let it make you don’t let it break you

Everything else will be right

[spark python]

Back when Character ai was popular i got scared when it wrote in () and it said the creator s thoughts on your chat

[keen beacon]

I think there’s a lot of closet ai addiction

People who are too ashamed to say that they’re addicted to AI or share or companionships with AI or whatever the hell you wanna call

You’d be surprised how many people here are addicted and they don’t even know it

[spark python]

nah i kinda like worlbuilding and writing and use it to make my own story for entertainment

[keen beacon]

You gotta look at it in terms of time spent

If you’re spending large portions of your time with AI or even the computer for that matter or the phone, whatever

[spark python]

Months I think of context and tokens

[keen beacon]

Well, you’re not the only one I’m also guilty as charged

[proud bobcat]

speaking of character ai holy god they fumbled

[keen beacon]

Well, they also had that lawsuit

[spark python]

It got weird with the calling stuff

[keen beacon]

Where that other kid unalive himself

[proud bobcat]

3 MILLION TOKENS??

[keen beacon]

Is that for character AI?

[spark python]

Your stats?

[proud bobcat]

yeah

[keen beacon]

Which yours?.

[proud bobcat]

...

all of them.

[spark python]

3 milion 😭😭

[keen beacon]

Damn, let’s break it down

[spark python]

No lets not

[keen beacon]

Well, I’m curious how much that translates per hour

[spark python]

I dont even think the brain can store that info

In a month

Like every detail

[keen beacon]

One second I’ll be right back. I gotta do some crunching.

[proud bobcat]

i dont even know how i used 3 million

christ

[spark python]

Who were u talking to?

Or just peeling the banana

[proud bobcat]

i like doing silly rps with deltarune chars

sometimes i make a cod character file tax returns

and uh

[keen beacon]

Is that per month for this this month?

[proud bobcat]

some unholy stuff on the side

[proud bobcat]

for 24 days

[spark python]

So you payed 0.567 cents?

[keen beacon]

OK, let’s just say this the average person types around 35 to 45 words a minute

We’ll give it 50 for argument sake

[proud bobcat]

about yeah

[keen beacon]

So 50x60

Is 3000 words an hour

How would you say you use it for 24 hours a day?

[real dock]

so ur a robot

[spark python]

Let me check my app time too

[keen beacon]

Thats 72 k words every 24 hours

X24 days

1,728,0000 words

But we’re also not including copy and pasting stuff and doing research

Which could easily eat up tokens especially if you do a lot of editing

Damn, that’s a lot of tokens

[proud bobcat]

aboutlike

twice??

[spark python]

Ehh so did my own research only on my phone I use chatgpt for like 7 8 hours a week so idk rlly

[proud bobcat]

i regenerate the messages like 4-6 times though for the best response

so

[keen beacon]

Yeah, so if you use it for 24 hours straight for 24 days straight that’s 1.7 million tokens

[proud bobcat]

take that into account

[keen beacon]

And you double that

But that’s just typing words per minute

[spark python]

Do you sleep?

[keen beacon]

Pretty much two ChatGPT plus subscriptions used to max

But don’t feel bad there’s some people that probably are double that

[proud bobcat]

IM NOT DOING THIS 24/7

on my SOUL

i use it like twice a day

MAYBE 3

[keen beacon]

Oh, I believe you

It would be impossible for anybody to use this for 24 hours a day for 24 hours straight

https://hackernoon.com/whos-used-one-trillion-plus-openai-tokens-salesforce-shopify-canva-hubspot-and-26-more-companies

Somebody wrecked up 1 trillion opening tokens lol

https://ai.gopubby.com/from-zero-to-20-million-tokens-my-ai-journey-for-first-half-of-2025-3f9cfcc83405

[proud bobcat]

jesus christ

[keen beacon]

I mean from what I’m reading you’re pretty so high up there

So that translates to you having a lot of XP

[spark python]

I got 7k words today

Idk tokens

[zealous sparrow]

@echo aurora Is speciale still broken? It's been a day.

[keen beacon]

Plus, don’t know the things consume more tokens, like searches and stuff

I wish they would just charge by the usage of power in watts or straight compute processing

Instead of tokens

So you get charged by the amount of power and compute intensity that was used

Like electricity bill that would be easier

[spark python]

I only give it a draft and tell it to write the whole scene

[echo aurora]

Yeah it's currently unavailable

[verbal nimbus]

Duolingo? That's unexpected

[spark python]

Pineaple why is pee with ss censored

[keen beacon]

Peess?

[spark python]

Instead of 2 e put I

And then send it

[atomic lagoon]

pi

ss

[keen beacon]

I get it now thank you

[atomic lagoon]

Because its a filter word

[spark python]

And the word go on is also censored if u type it together

[keen beacon]

Yeah, with this, I have to agree

[atomic lagoon]

Dont want this server getting smited by discord

[atomic lagoon]

Yea that makes no sense lol

[spark python]

Why not?

[keen beacon]

Oh wait it’s on the discord. I thought you meant the lm arena

It’s a standardized, form of behavior, modification, and adjustment

[spark python]

Cus gooon ing is a bad word

[keen beacon]

It’s not the word itself, but it’s the connotation that comes with it

It’s just the way

The Internet is everywhere pretty much most platforms

[spark python]

I cant go on🙏😔

[keen beacon]

You can call the code to conduct or something

No shirt, no shoes no service

[spark python]

Beach doesnt work🙏😭

I mean the offensive word that sounds the same

[golden ocean]

how

[atomic lagoon]

bich

You mean?

[verbal nimbus]

I thought their lessons were mostly pre-written

[atomic lagoon]

Ooo could this be the reason I CANT JAILBREAK

[proud bobcat]

im so cooked

aughhh

[white wagon]

hii

[keen beacon]

These are just concepts of my observations

And the way the platforms are designed themselves

[atomic lagoon]

Ohhh

[keen beacon]

Sorry, I wish I could make it more entertaining

[spark python]

Did you made a lesson on this😭

[keen beacon]

Yes

[atomic lagoon]

Lmao good luck making something that makes it not boring

[spark python]

You are becoming a teacher✌️

[atomic lagoon]

Itsa good listen while you're doing stuff

[keen beacon]

It’s lame

I listen to it. I say it’s lame and I made it.

[atomic lagoon]

Its more like a podcast LOL

[spark python]

Add gameplay and phonk music

[atomic lagoon]

Aw hell naw

Some subway surfers

[keen beacon]

What there’s the other side too

[teal sphinx]

Ola to all, seeking some help or advice as new to this discord, I watched this video title and followed thru to this group ..but cannot find where I need to go to find the details described in the video Make LONG AI Videos (FREE & UNLIMITED)

[keen beacon]

Wisdom is earned through patients

[atomic lagoon]

Thats how you will always be majority of the time

[teal sphinx]

if anyone can advise or help me I would very grateful

[keen beacon]

Yeah, it is what it is

[atomic lagoon]

What ze heck

[spark python]

It has the ai writing style

[keen beacon]

Oh yeah, it’s my lazy attempt at trying to articulate complicated idea ideas

I mitigated all the hard work without the effort to a machine

[atomic lagoon]

Listen man, I make music and anything I make I feel is never enough, especially when showing people lmao so I feel you

[cloud zinc]

laziness is not good

[keen beacon]

And expected it to be entertaining

[spark python]

So was it supposed to talk about filters or the market?

[keen beacon]

No, it’s not and the result of my laziness. Is it being lame

[atomic lagoon]

Wouldn't have guessed

[keen beacon]

But at least it was created and it’s out there

I could’ve been even lazy or not even did that lol

Plus, the benefit of this is trial and error. You know you make it you release into the world you get some feedback and criticism and then you go back to the lab.

And wait for a newer model to come out to make it more entertaining

Jk

[teal sphinx]

Ola to all, seeking some help or advice as new to this discord, I watched this video title and followed thru to this group ..but cannot find where I need to go to find the details described in the video Make LONG AI Videos (FREE & UNLIMITED)

[atomic lagoon]

Man claude opus just made a crazy website off 1 prompt

[spark python]

WE are not helping you brochacho

[keen beacon]

There is no long AI video

[teal sphinx]

Thanks Gehlo,but this video says there is ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeeWad9PW48

[keen beacon]

Oh lord

I’m gonna watch it

[atomic lagoon]

https://019ae0a8-e939-7bd5-9d4d-baf87b44fa0c.arena.site Check this out. Its meant to make a wav file for me for my guitar tones but if you type any like bands and then their album names it will generate it BUT I love how it shows like suggestions like when you put a band in it already has album suggestions for it

[atomic lagoon]

Unfortunately. If any company made an AI model with long videos and it was actually good, I'd put my money on Deepseek to do it

[left lodge]

deepseek speciale version is not available on lmarena but is announced everywhere that it is??? (Specifically in direct & side by side mode)

[keen beacon]

HOLD UP

My commonsense just hit me

[teal sphinx]

can anyone direct me to the details on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeeWad9PW48

[keen beacon]

This video tutorial

It literally shows you what to do lol

So which part are you stuck at?

I’m currently watching it also

[teal sphinx]

Stuck on prompts and flow

[spark python]

How am I supposed to use this it doesnt detect the artist and album name i put

[keen beacon]

I’m not that far yet

[atomic lagoon]

Uhhh which band are you putting? because it was built more for metal bands

[teal sphinx]

Ok i wait for your reply Gehlo thanks

[keen beacon]

How long is long to you?

Like hour?

[teal sphinx]

video is 12 min approx

[keen beacon]

I know that, but I’m just saying how long do you want your video to be 12 minutes also

[left lodge]

@echo aurora
Announcement says it is available but its not?
#announcements message

[teal sphinx]

wondering where to find the details regarding that video in here Gehlo

[spark python]

None I dont listen to metal so idk I put carti

[keen beacon]

OK, well do you have a topic and ID and how long you want it to be let’s do the first part of the video

You go to AI studio

[atomic lagoon]

Lol thats why, like I said, its for guitar cab IRs aka impulse ratings for a guitar tone haha

[teal sphinx]

My Video ,,,not entirly sure how long...is there a limited on lenght

[atomic lagoon]

I just thought the UI was cool though

[keen beacon]

The limit is gonna be the amount of time you wanna spend

[spark python]

Can I make a site that makes ai instrumentals ?

[keen beacon]

If you want it long, then you’re gonna have to spend a lot longer. If you want it short then you’ll spend a shorter time.

[atomic lagoon]

Good question, its unlikely but honestly I wouldnt put it passed anything! Just like SUNO

[keen beacon]

https://aistudio.google.com/prompts/new_chat

First of all, just go there

And for beginners to start with a simple one minute video

And then you could move it into two minutes three minutes or whatever

[spark python]

I dont like suno, but I guess lm arena couldn't do it

[keen beacon]

This is content farming lol

[atomic lagoon]

Damn

SUNO Uses Text to audio AI models or text to Music really

So its different I'd say

Chirp

[keen beacon]

Do you have any basic software video editing software?

Scared me

[teal sphinx]

ok i have Genimi 3 open and ready to prompt

[keen beacon]

All right, so what do you want your one minute video to be about?

[teal sphinx]

in the tutorial Youtube its say the prompt is inside discord?? where??

[keen beacon]

I’ll make one with u

See that’s the sale right there

[teal sphinx]

where can I get the PDF? Gehlo??

[keen beacon]

Did you get it?

You know what bro we’re just gonna extract all his prompts from his video

[teal sphinx]

I am part of this Discord for about 1 week so when I press that link its a welcome to the group but no pdf

[keen beacon]

You gotta let Playboy know

You’re there for the PDF

And that you don’t play these games

Let him know you followed the rules and did with instructions said and you still don’t see the PDF

[atomic lagoon]

🤣

[keen beacon]

But see he’s gonna try to sell you something

He’s gonna try to sell you some kind of course or something

Because I clicked that link and it wanted my information and my phone number, which is, I don’t want him calling me

Or you know what dude

I’ll sign up. I got temporary phone numbers I forget about.

[teal sphinx]

yes I have been registed to this group few weeks and have followed all rules and even made few small test video, so I was interested to learn how to do Long video as shown in youtube video

[keen beacon]

And he still didn’t show you or tell you what to do?

[proud bobcat]

speciale seems to be back up

[teal sphinx]

but cannot find the pdf with the prompts as described in the youtube video??

[zealous sparrow]

It was gone from openrouter too?

[proud bobcat]

no no

i mean

the service is reliable again

[keen beacon]

You’re in luck, buddy. I’m in a good mood today.

[proud bobcat]

i think speciale can be safely put back onto lmarena

[zealous sparrow]

It dont hallucinate no more?

[proud bobcat]

idk lemme check

[still fossil]

yoo i found a way to fix that

[proud bobcat]

give me a prompt

[still fossil]

see dm

[zealous sparrow]

simple hi

[proud bobcat]

yeah this is defo R2

[keen beacon]

I will, bro give me one second let me help this gentleman out

[keen beacon]

Hell yeah 👍

[still fossil]

bro is working better then moderators and admins

[zealous sparrow]

show a coding example, a uh cool html website

[proud bobcat]

hmmm alright

holy hell yeah this thing is a reasoning machine

rip my credits bro

[atomic lagoon]

LOL

[proud bobcat]

I PUT ITS EFFORT ON LOWE

UGHHH

[atomic lagoon]

Not hallucinating though at least

[keen beacon]

One second dude I’m building a YouTube video frame extractor

[proud bobcat]

oh yeah its much better

[keen beacon]

That way we can extract the prompt from the actual video

[proud bobcat]

its planning out the typography and stuff rn

[keen beacon]

Bypassing the PDF entirely

[zealous sparrow]

im sorry lol

[zealous sparrow]

typescript interesting

[spark python]

Its like watching it burn

[proud bobcat]

yeah no im stopping this

[keen beacon]

Bro, once again, my comment is kicking in here. Did you even watch the video?

He literally has an arrow on his discord where they’re at

[zealous sparrow]

i dont blame you lmao

[spark python]

Aint no way u a still teaching the dude its been like 10 minutes

[keen beacon]

I don’t even think that dude watched the video

[proud bobcat]

im gonna try minimal reasoning

[keen beacon]

Something ain’t right here

[zealous sparrow]

with speciale or without, or can you like uh change reasoning type

[proud bobcat]

you can change reasoning effort

[zealous sparrow]

ah okay

lmk if it takes above 3 minutes

[keen beacon]

I think he’s gone lol

He must’ve found the resources

[gleaming roost]

Where can I test deepseek-v3.2-speciale?

[proud bobcat]

im using openrouter here

[gleaming roost]

oh ty

[verbal nimbus]

I don't think it's a coding model

[proud bobcat]

no no it is

[keen beacon]

I got played

[proud bobcat]

scores very well

just

reasons too much.

[zealous sparrow]

still goin?

[keen beacon]

U want a jailbreak prompt?

[proud bobcat]

WAIT ITS ALMOST DONE

ITS ALMOST DONE

I THINK

YESSS

[verbal nimbus]

They tested V3.2 on SWE-Bench but not Speciale

[zealous sparrow]

101% on SWE verified :trollface:

[fiery gull]

Why sonnet 4.5 in codeforce is so low? Lol, they use without thinking?

[atomic lagoon]

I didnt know lmarena ACTUALLY MADE BACKENDS

[proud bobcat]

im gonna let it do its thing for a tad more

[verbal nimbus]

Because it's not good at reasoning

[fiery gull]

Idk what is backend, is to human mistake?

[zealous sparrow]

deepseek chomps on your openrouter credits

[fiery gull]

Hmmmm, make sense

[proud bobcat]

well hey

its a cheap model

so

i dont really need this

i can just

use a diff provider

lmao

[atomic lagoon]

Backend of your website is like basically if I wanted to put an AI in my website, that'd be running off my backened. Its stuff you dont want in public as well

[proud bobcat]

okay yeah no i think the prompt is just not good enough

i left a lot out

[keen beacon]

How

[proud bobcat]

TBF

its cheap

[keen beacon]

Yeah, it has been known for that

[zealous sparrow]

has the gen finished

[keen beacon]

It’s part of it app appeal

[atomic lagoon]

Dont ask me.. I literally copy and pasted a prompt from gemini 3 LMAO

[proud bobcat]

im gonna give it a better prompt

[keen beacon]

Why can’t you use Google fire base or whatever it’s called for backend

[atomic lagoon]

This was the original prompt

[echo aurora]

Good callout, I'll edit the announcement. And if/when it's added again I'll update the announcement again. Thanks for the heads up.

[keen beacon]

Or is Google firebase not any good?

[fiery gull]

Bro, I forgot what meen backend 🫤, I'm not okay today lol, I need to make a scan in my brain now lol

[proud bobcat]

openrouter has a backend alreadt

i think

[atomic lagoon]

Has webdev always been able to make backend for its sites?

[zealous sparrow]

im sorry, python?

[atomic lagoon]

I wonder if it depends on the model

[atomic lagoon]

Yea, the prompt had it make the backened in python

For what its meant to do python is supposed to be used

Extracting files basically a virtual computer inside of the website

ChatGPT does the same thing

They have a virtual computer in their AI. Hence the reason it can make zip files

[proud bobcat]

okay i think ive identified speciales problem

it thinks too much like a human

[torn mantle]

any new model?

hows deepseek v3.2 speciale at coding

havent seen anyone talk about that

[proud bobcat]

im trying it rn

[zealous sparrow]

do you have a gen where it finished reasoning

[proud bobcat]

it seems like an awesome model but the reasoning slows it down

[proud bobcat]

im just gonna try 0 reasoning effort

[atomic lagoon]

Yesterday pro pro made a site and it was awesome

Off of "Make a cool website" lmao

I think it was pro pro at least

[zealous sparrow]

that would be the thinking model

[gleaming roost]

I'm testing it, I've been thinking for more than 10 minutes here to make a page.

[zealous sparrow]

i cant test speciale as it was bricked by that time

[atomic lagoon]

Ohhh my bad I thought it was speciale

[proud bobcat]

i think 3.2 thinking is goated then

[atomic lagoon]

It gets the job done for sureeee

Only downside to it is having to manually add all the code LOL

[proud bobcat]

right i need opinions

do i let speciale do its thing

or do it cut it short if it doesnt finish in 5 minutes

[ocean minnow]

bad. it's where Opus is good.

[atomic lagoon]

Let it do its thing

[proud bobcat]

have we seen any coding from speciale

the SWEBench looks pretty damn good

[zealous sparrow]

if it doesnt eat all your credits i say let it cook mayb

[verbal nimbus]

Isn't it a maths/reasoning model

[proud bobcat]

its cheap so

only used up one cent from 3 tries

LOL

yeah no i think uhh

i think ill stick to thinking for code

[ocean minnow]

we've seen a lot of coding in front of our eyes done with my our own hands in many different languages in past 25 years

[atomic lagoon]

That literally doesnt answer the question

At all

[proud bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-gif-25599710

what

[ocean minnow]

for coding reasoning isn't that important. what is most important good knowledge of APIs, libraries and frameworks.

[proud bobcat]

im trying speciale one more time

[torn mantle]

they are all math/reasoning focused models

[atomic lagoon]

I've never seen a model so broken

[proud bobcat]

its not broken

no

its just wayyy too paranoid

i love that it thinks of every like possibility, thats great

but i really do not need that

at least for coding

i could see this model being great for research though

and maybe editing existing code sections

[atomic lagoon]

If its taking longer than opus then there seems to be a problem lmaoo because opus keeps taking 15 minutes a generation

[proud bobcat]

ohhhh i havent even tried it for 15 mins

im gonna try

[ocean minnow]

generation of what? you asking it do whole job for you and generate a whole app, so you wouldn't even have to press a button once?

[atomic lagoon]

Compared to other apps thats very very slow

Gemini 3 gets it done in 5 easily lmao

Opus is slightly better than gemini 3

Shouldnt be that big of a difference

[proud bobcat]

okay yeah speciale isnt hallucinating it just has a weird ocd habit of making sure everything is planned

so this model is probably just meant for math and extreme reasoning

[verbal nimbus]

Does it self-verify a lot

[proud bobcat]

i think this is built off that crazy good math model they made that will reason the problem out instead of hallucinating its work

[proud bobcat]

yes

[verbal nimbus]

Sounds like the maths model then

[proud bobcat]

mhm

yeah no this is taking forever

but overall i think its a good model

just not for coding

[ocean minnow]

compared in what? you really not doing anything and asking ai to so whole job?

[atomic lagoon]

You're either stupid or just rage baiting

[proud bobcat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1430599282565582899/1438080959072309380/image.gif

[ocean minnow]

You are not answering the question though.

[atomic lagoon]

There isnt a question

That isnt English sir

[whole swallow]

What it means?

I think coding

[ocean minnow]

This is pretty much English, even though i'm not English speaker
compared in what? generation of what?

[whole swallow]

Nevermind wrong group

[ocean minnow]

The question was what is he doing that it takes 15 minutes. That he clearly misunderstood purpose of AI.

[golden ocean]

it's not in there

try searching part of the prompt visible in the video into discord search feature

its not the same at all I think

[keen beacon]

Figures

Idk where lil homie went

[golden ocean]

fr

[keen beacon]

😭

[golden ocean]

do it for me then

[keen beacon]

If you want it, we can or you could hold when you need something really bad

How to return the favor in the time of need

Oh, so you already knew him

[golden ocean]

who

i'll try to get the prompt from video

i'll share if need

[keen beacon]

Well he gone

[proud bobcat]

and i thought i was an unc

[keen beacon]

Bro these yt be ripping ppl off

[proud bobcat]

am i the youngest guy in this chat 😭

dont watch ai yt videos

its always some scam

[keen beacon]

The whole industry is a scam

[proud bobcat]

true

but

yt ai vids are worse

[keen beacon]

Monkey see monkey do

[proud bobcat]

also speciale cut out in reasoning

sniffle

maybe it is just for math

[keen beacon]

In all reality, all these models are probably way more capable, but it’s dividing the compute between users

Imagine if you had access to all the fire power

We probably only get like a sliver version

With token limits and cutoffs and caps

[proud bobcat]

well i mean i probably have more of the gold version

(api access)

but i see what you mean

remember that these models are likely quantized to about Q8

[keen beacon]

Forsure

Water down

[golden ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-cooking-chop-chop-chop-gif-3792867699560909190

[astral drum]

/arena help

[proud bobcat]

LMAO

New openai model gonna be benchmaxxed

So based on my testing it’s for extreme research and math

Think like O3

Not for coding

3.2 thinking is for coding

I’m sure speciale can be used for code editing with how in depth it is but otherwise this is a number cruncher

???

I just used it

Yeah defo a math model

Oh well 3.2 thinking is already very nice at coding

@hardy swallow could you get this guy OUTTA here

[whole swallow]

Oil him up

[proud bobcat]

Mods, force this guy to use llama 4 maverick for 2 hours

[fiery gull]

This is worse that dead?

[proud bobcat]

Yes!

[obsidian cargo]

Still no Deepseek speciale on lmarena :C

[proud bobcat]

It’ll probably be up today or early tomorrow

Its service is stabilized

Mistral new model stil behind DeepSeek R1????

Yikes

[gleaming roost]

🥳

[abstract jackal]

Hello

[ocean vortex]

I mean it kinda wasn't supposed to be exceptionally high....

this is their own official graph

[proud bobcat]

Of course but I mean

With a dataset that size I’d thought they’d at least pull some black magic

Maybe I just have a hatred towards mistral

I never liked their models

[ocean vortex]

wym

what dataset?

[proud bobcat]

It’s like a uhh

675B model

[ocean vortex]

Mixtral is like the godfather of OSS and MoE in OSS. That's where it all started

So they have accomplished quite a bit already tbh

[proud bobcat]

Oh absolutely

[native yarrow]

ik i don't know what halpened to it, i think its maintenance xus it was on for a tad :P

[proud bobcat]

But they’ve been a bit lack luster

Idk

Maybe I’m yelling at clouds

[ocean vortex]

Sure but that's just model size, means not very much by itself. OG gpt4 was much bigger and is nowhere to be seen on the leaderboard anymore

[proud bobcat]

Yeah true

[obsidian cargo]

I am 99% certain that they took it down because the long time it spent thinking for responses (and the long responses it gave) caused it to time out and fail. Not denying it had hallucinations but I don't think they would have taken it down becaues of those, unlike what some people are claiming. (I'll eat my words if someone provides an official source)

[latent crest]

Gemini pro has a 2k model now

[crystal juniper]

hello

[latent crest]

Ciao

[ocean vortex]

Some responses can take 25min and that's normal for Speciale. This is obviously not ideal tbh

They need what Kimi did with their Turbo inference option very badly

It was already a problem with R1 at those response streaming speeds, but Speciale is much more verbose.

[proud bobcat]

Tbf this is like the Chinese version of Gemini deepthink

And we don’t know how long deepthink reasons

I think

[native yarrow]

honestly if some responses take 30 mins then it's useless atp

ykwim?

unless you got alll the time in the world

it's just useless

[obsidian cargo]

tbf I do got a lot of free time

<- is living on disability due to a chronic condition caused by a covid infection a few years back

but nah I'd consider deepseek-speciale kind of a deep think model

[native yarrow]

seriously? you good??

[obsidian cargo]

more or less

[thorny schooner]

I don't know if it's just me but I don't know why for some reason fails is every time I try to put Asia or American continent like no joke I tried every other continent and they work basically fine with these randomly stopped working mid-chat

[obsidian cargo]

actually I'm feeling better than I have in a long time and I think I owe it entirely to a burrito

[thorny schooner]

Glad to hear that

[thorny schooner]

Okay this is weird with those two cuz I just asia again but smash random words and it worked completely fine

[obsidian cargo]

I'm either gonna feel amazing or like crap tomorrow and it's gonna be a toss up

[native yarrow]

LOL

well im really sorry about what happened

even i dk jack about it i can only imagine something really bad

[obsidian cargo]

well thats the way they crumble cookies lmao

[native yarrow]

glad you are alright

[obsidian cargo]

thaaanks :D

[native yarrow]

ofc :3 as long as youre up and breathing and waking up everyday, things will be alright

[jovial sapphire]

Guys I'm building a tool that lets you "visit" images

What do you think?

[native yarrow]

aint that googles supposed project?

[lucid geyser]

Is the open ai model dropping next week Robin?

[cloud zinc]

war and drama

[jovial sapphire]

Hahaha they're doing it for very big worlds

Mine works on room pictures

I'm alone

Looking for people to help maybe

It's local for now

*it's not advertising

i don't have any website or whatever

[cloud zinc]

time has surely ran out

[jovial sapphire]

what bro?

[native yarrow]

damn thats cool!1!1!

:P

[jovial sapphire]

thank you friend

[cloud zinc]

robin?

[native yarrow]

also whys that?

[obsidian cargo]

well I had a big day that left me feeling energized but I tend to crash after overexerting myself. went and treated myself to a burrito, to zootopia 2, and then to a warm brownie sundae afterwards as the literal cherry on top

[native yarrow]

oo thats friggin awesome

too broke i can only buy a bag of dinamitas

its okay i love them.,.,

[keen beacon]

I wanted to talk to u about that

[wanton patrol]

anyone having problems getting gemini 3 to work

[cloud zinc]

nintendo 3ds time has ran out

[keen beacon]

#general message

How?

[half rain]

Hello. This group is amazing

[proud bobcat]

???

They’re just expressing points

[cloud zinc]

nice

[proud bobcat]

There’s a lot to criticize ai about tbf

[cloud zinc]

hey

[keen beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-balls-the-sopranos-gif-9808599053616954593

[proud bobcat]

Image generation, video generation, the anti social effects, ai catering to people with delusions/mental disorders, the compute shortage, etc

[cloud zinc]

war and drama style

[keen beacon]

They don’t look at it like that they look at it as a means to an end collateral damage

Sacrifices that are willing to be compromised

Glazing the machines

[keen beacon]

At least you’re considerate it’s awesome. It’s awesome. Try to keep it up. And least ur aware of some of the issues that plague intelligence.

[lucid geyser]

https://x.com/chatgpt21/status/1995900742629044360?s=46&t=iDcf2nE8xUHsV_LN_6wymg

Chris (@chatgpt21)

@simpforasi They will, I’m holding my tongue but it’s good

X · Dec 2, 2025, 4:59 PM

Does this guy actually know anything

[keen beacon]

Shilling for the hype machine. They are the gatekeepers that lure us in with insider information which they cannot disclose apparently

[proud bobcat]

I despise anything image gen and video gen related

I think LLMs are awesome

[lucid geyser]

https://x.com/chatgpt21/status/1995976385966518764?s=46&t=iDcf2nE8xUHsV_LN_6wymg

Chris (@chatgpt21)

People will say I shouldn’t hype here and there, but I’m going to be honest I don’t hype unless I am certain or I know information that gives me a reason to hype. You could check my page all through throughout the last six months it’s quite rare that I “hype” up a release

X · Dec 2, 2025, 10:00 PM

[proud bobcat]

But there should be a line drawn

[native yarrow]

whys that?

[keen beacon]

What

Why

Ya

Y

[keen beacon]

Figuratively or metaphorically

[lucid geyser]

Its impossible

Now

[keen beacon]

It’s ridiculous. It comes with the territory

If the rotten, they rotten to the court on everything

But if something are fine, then it’s all fine

[cloud zinc]

whats this about

[keen beacon]

I’m assuming by the looks of it possibly refer to ChatGPT

[lucid geyser]

OpenAI news today

They got some new good stuff coming apparently

As soon as next week

[keen beacon]

Today?

[native yarrow]

i doubt its a gemini/cladue killer

[keen beacon]

12 days event

[cloud zinc]

there is no 12 days event this year

[lucid geyser]

?

[keen beacon]

I misread when you said today

[cloud zinc]

is it shallowpeat or garlic?

[keen beacon]

I have nothing to based off of at all zero evidence or proof

But if I guess I would say they’re gonna update the OSS model

[lucid geyser]

No garlic till next year

Idk about shallot peat