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dreamy sparrow
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suck what bro

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🙏

inland violet
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my

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pencil

dreamy sparrow
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your

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yeahh

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wait what

inland violet
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what

dreamy sparrow
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that's still not a good thing

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that sounds bad

inland violet
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you should try

dreamy sparrow
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matter of fact

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everything

dreamy sparrow
inland violet
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suck pencil

plucky sparrow
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Google could've made gemini 3 better. Anthropic can't really afford to. So they were smart to let Google go first

inland violet
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dont search excuses for them

dreamy sparrow
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do i search system instructions

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or system prompts

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please help

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i can't decide

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my mind is blowing up

keen beacon
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For what?

dreamy sparrow
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for ai

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gemini

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in ai studio

keen beacon
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But what are the instructions gonna give you? I don’t understand.

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Or even the system prompt

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Plus, I thought it got leaked not too long ago

dreamy sparrow
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yeah

inland violet
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SILENCE

dreamy sparrow
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wait lemme search both

inland violet
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i said

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SILENCE

dreamy sparrow
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im gonna send a Chinese drone to you

inland violet
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i dont sleep tonight because of drones

rocky stratus
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okay why do u have to wait 50 minutes?

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the website already offers models for free

inland violet
rocky stratus
keen beacon
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& to keep cost down

inland violet
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wait 50 min

keen beacon
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If they offered it for free, nobody would be paying for it lol

inland violet
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i am paying

keen beacon
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Well, at least all the features

inland violet
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to google

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they are goat

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sota

plucky sparrow
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What is grok 4.1 useful for?

rocky stratus
rocky stratus
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web searching

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ig

dreamy sparrow
inland violet
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hide 70kg chicken

keen beacon
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ChatGPT is best know most illgeal stuff doesn’t shy away

inland violet
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chatgpt sucks

keen beacon
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At what

inland violet
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trash for normies

inland violet
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in code

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in text

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probably in everything

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compared to gemini

keen beacon
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GPT more intuitive

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In my opinion

rocky stratus
torn mantle
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whoever says gemini 3 pro is better than opus 4.5 at coding hes either dumb or just a vibe coder

inland violet
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chatgpt:

pls make text about 'theme'
sends you 1 page at school-level (with enabled deep research)

gemini:

pls make text about 'theme'
making 10 pages at the university level

keen beacon
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No

dreamy sparrow
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yes

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at everything else

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FAH no

keen beacon
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ChatGPT smart

inland violet
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at COPING also

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(cope)

keen beacon
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It knows nobody’s gonna read the 10 pages

rocky stratus
inland violet
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(not copy)

inland violet
keen beacon
rocky stratus
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we all know that gemini 3 deepthink or wtv it called is way better

inland violet
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gemini 3 dickseek

rocky stratus
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shut up indian

inland violet
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who

rocky stratus
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you

inland violet
rocky stratus
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ur so corny

inland violet
torn mantle
torn mantle
dreamy sparrow
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crazy

torn mantle
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ITS NOT BETTER THAN OPUS AT CODING

rocky stratus
inland violet
dreamy sparrow
keen beacon
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Ya all can’t even communicate like normal people

torn mantle
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NO NO NO

dreamy sparrow
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that's what i said

torn mantle
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no you said its better at coding than opus

dreamy sparrow
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claude is obviously the best model for coding

inland violet
keen beacon
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See

rocky stratus
torn mantle
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ok

torn mantle
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i guess you said that

dreamy sparrow
rocky stratus
inland violet
rocky stratus
dreamy sparrow
inland violet
dreamy sparrow
keen beacon
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Well, safe to say that the finest and brightest

rocky stratus
dreamy sparrow
dreamy sparrow
inland violet
rocky stratus
dreamy sparrow
keen beacon
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America

inland violet
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what

dreamy sparrow
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no no

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wait

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Russia

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no no

rocky stratus
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bro shut up

dreamy sparrow
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new Zealand

inland violet
keen beacon
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Nawh

inland violet
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my hero

keen beacon
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Ur not Russian

torn mantle
dreamy sparrow
inland violet
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what

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apologize

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right now

torn mantle
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oh

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i thought you said where we are from

dreamy sparrow
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baldie not the basics

rocky stratus
torn mantle
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you are from

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hmmm

torn mantle
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you are from isreal

inland violet
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i hate j

keen beacon
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Both are from western countries

dreamy sparrow
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the bomb

inland violet
rocky stratus
torn mantle
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opus 4.5 is fast no?

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holy

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fast + less tokens

keen beacon
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Poor communication skills

rocky stratus
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free pic perms

inland violet
torn mantle
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goober wants to get banned >.<

keen beacon
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Number 1 sign of Western culture lol

inland violet
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where are you from brudda

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iraq?

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afghanistan?

rocky stratus
inland violet
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pakistan?

torn mantle
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where are ui from atef

dreamy sparrow
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is that a furry

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or

rocky stratus
inland violet
torn mantle
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atef are you from pakistan or india

rocky stratus
inland violet
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what

keen beacon
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I’m so glad for for guard rails

torn mantle
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ban

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i took sc

dreamy sparrow
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i saw that brochacho

inland violet
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what do you mean

torn mantle
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imma dm mod

rocky stratus
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is good

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fun

torn mantle
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bye bye

dreamy sparrow
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WJAT

rocky stratus
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damn

dreamy sparrow
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asura dude

rocky stratus
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EWW

inland violet
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asura

dreamy sparrow
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what the hell

rocky stratus
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BRO REPORT ASURA

inland violet
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hey mods

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ban asura

rocky stratus
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BAN ASURA

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WEIRDO

keen beacon
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Basi server kick u out?

torn mantle
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nah ban goober and atef

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for saying weird stuff

rocky stratus
inland violet
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why

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its you

rocky stratus
torn mantle
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its both of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

keen beacon
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Say hi Wes and pliney

inland violet
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@dreamy sparrowbrudda help us

rocky stratus
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edit??

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its not

torn mantle
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inspect element in 2025 smh

inland violet
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who dare

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hey

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HEEEEEEEEEY

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CHAAAAAAAAAAT

dreamy sparrow
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whhahhah

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heshsjhhs

inland violet
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what

dreamy sparrow
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jehssjs

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kejhs

keen beacon
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He jacked sneaky

dreamy sparrow
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im

inland violet
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you are

inland violet
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i hate n

dreamy sparrow
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DUDE THAT'S BYPASS

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WHAT TEHYSHSH

inland violet
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@dreamy sparrowyou are black or white

dreamy sparrow
rocky stratus
inland violet
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well

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well

rocky stratus
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crazy

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WOAH

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u can try

inland violet
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what about me

dreamy sparrow
inland violet
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no no

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i am

rocky stratus
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what

dreamy sparrow
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what no

inland violet
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what

rocky stratus
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im a minor

inland violet
dreamy sparrow
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WHAHWHSHHW

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AHAHHAAH

rocky stratus
inland violet
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i dead

dreamy sparrow
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im 4 inches

inland violet
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i can send you contacts

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in DM

rocky stratus
keen beacon
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Asia Minor as in Anatolia?

inland violet
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who is anatoliy

keen beacon
rocky stratus
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chat i found an extension that let u use lmarena without having to wait 50 min!!!

rocky stratus
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nah

inland violet
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and i will send you my personal archive

rocky stratus
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im not

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pay me

inland violet
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whyyyyyyyy

rocky stratus
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and I'll leak it

inland violet
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i can send you bunch of videos

rocky stratus
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of what?

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.

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BRO

inland violet
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what

rocky stratus
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EW

inland violet
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what

keen beacon
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I’m curious what happened in both of your guys lives

rocky stratus
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I HAVE HEMOPHOBIA WTF

inland violet
rocky stratus
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bys

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die

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pls

inland violet
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what

rocky stratus
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imma actually report u

inland violet
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why

rocky stratus
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on discord

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for attempting to send gore

keen beacon
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This ain’t normal I gotta go

rocky stratus
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done

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i hope u get banned

inland violet
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gandone

rocky stratus
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from discord

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<@&1349916362595635286>

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bro leave me alone u weirdo

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ur getting banned for attempting to send gore

inland violet
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what

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where

rocky stratus
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and explicit content

inland violet
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🤙

rocky stratus
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gosh this server lacks mods

languid lynx
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HELLO

meager oxide
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Hey

bright shard
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Hi, I was using the Gemini 3 (Nano-Banana-Pro) model from the official LMarena website, but it's very buggy and the images won't load. Is anyone else having this problem?

spark python
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Yes we all have that problem

ocean ferry
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God doesn't like your behavior

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this isn't normal bro💀

echo sinew
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Please, stop the trolling posts. Keep interactions respectful and chats mostly AI related topics. Thank you.

inland violet
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its not trolling

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for us religion is not theme for joking

echo sinew
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✅ Avoid political and religious content. As a space that’s inclusive to many different worldviews we ask to avoid topics related to politics and religion in order to maintain an inclusive space. It is okay to have discussion related to new policy or laws as long as it’s related to AI.

inland violet
rocky stratus
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the error when generating images in the website is so annoying

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there goes my DAMN 50 MINUTES FOR LITERALLY NOT GENERATING ANYTHING

tawny brook
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General

latent crest
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Hello guys, lmarena doesn’t work for me. Am I the only one or it’s a general error ?

dusky ravine
hard quiver
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Gemini 3 pro not working today😔

echo aurora
viscid cloak
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Well, honestly if it’s small issues, any models could do. If you are looking for the best, the best are the doctors.

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You mean diagnosis or threatment(therapy)?

drifting crow
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I mean patient

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Id yolo it with grok tbh

viscid cloak
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Well, you have quite a lot chances to try in LMArena, see which models cater your need. But just be mindful many models would ask your to seek for professional assistance, which you know what that means.

drifting crow
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The others will prob have too many guardrails whereas grok might just tell u drop mdma and be happy

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Is anyone familiar with small llms, I’m looking for a light one to classify music genres into a set of normalized genres, I originally wanted to do this by logic by couldn’t find a good data source, plus some genres may be in other language, i.e afrikanische music which i would want it to group into the normalized genre, world

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I also don’t wanna train im hoping a small local model could do it with a decent system prompt

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Might try llama 3.2B

echo aurora
umbral glen
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@echo aurora

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where is claude opus 4.5 thinking 128k

cloud zinc
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👎

umbral glen
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not 32k

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😡

cloud zinc
umbral glen
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for TESTING purposes

drifting crow
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Anyway bro pls go see a healthcare professional

limber crag
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hello??

cloud zinc
cloud zinc
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sapiens

umbral glen
viscid cloak
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Unfortunately to hear, no trolling at all, but trust me llm wont do you good.

limber crag
umbral glen
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10k usd app in 3 words, ez bank 🤑🤑🤑🫰

cloud zinc
umbral glen
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wrong gif

viscid cloak
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Sorry to say, if that be true and be 100% that bad, we won’t talk with you here

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Finding utopia in LLM ISN’T a solution. I speak of it as someone has sufficient experience with top LLM models in therapy, counseling, rp, etc.

limber crag
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public servers are a different breed

viscid cloak
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You hallucinating bro?

astral compass
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plss, someone send me links in private messages of your games created on lmarena

limber crag
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no

unreal dagger
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any reason why nothing works

magic ravine
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Getting the "Something went wrong with this response, please try again." response again 😭

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For nano pro

limber crag
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oh wow i just got a generation

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took me 10 tries

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are you larping

magic ravine
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Even a simple prompt like "A cute little kitten, puppy, baby rabbit, baby duck, baby mouse, baby turtle and baby tiger cub, all together in a large rounded bed made of amethyst and emeralds" ain't generating 😭

limber crag
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its because of bed

daring rock
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Please avoid discussing about sensitive topics or drugs/medication. This is not related to our community. Thank you

magic ravine
viscid cloak
magic ravine
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Aaannnddd it's back to the errors again. Big sad

stray aspen
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Nice ragebait

devout vault
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Gemini 3 or claude opus 4.5

stray aspen
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Gemini 3

devout vault
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I feel like claude hype is dumb

devout vault
stray aspen
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There's no significant improvement

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It's like grok 4.1

devout vault
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so expensive too

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for no reason

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bro this benchmark is cursed af

fiery gull
fiery gull
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My first impression of the Opus 4.5 was very good, but honestly the Gemini 3.0 Pro is better because of the speed, but I'm finding the Opus 4.5 very good

hushed gyro
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chat does anyone know why

in huggingface

kimi k2 0711 isn't censored

but in lmarena it is

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and it wasn't the interface guardrails

unreal dagger
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any reason why my chats wont load at all

hushed gyro
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any uncensored models on the lmarena model list?

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because im tired of censorship for everything

magic ravine
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I've noticed 😔

unreal dagger
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its so stupid i cant post more then a 400 word promt

limber crag
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Wait what

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When did that happen

unreal dagger
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idk rn happpend to me can only send it like 100 word prompts on anything

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when i am logged in

limber crag
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This is a common issue since past 2 days

unreal dagger
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yeah but nothing works sadly just gotta buy some credits i gues s

hushed gyro
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im just tired of all censorship

unreal dagger
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bro needs the ban fast

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hell nah

hushed gyro
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you guys saw nothing now

fiery gull
hushed gyro
fiery gull
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I'm loving the new opus

unreal dagger
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id like it if it worked

hushed gyro
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can lmarena pls add some uncensored models pwease

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and stop using providers that has guardrails installed

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do it like huggingchat

polar wharf
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flux 2 pro, crazy

unreal dagger
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host it yourself buddy its not that hard

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hugging chat is very easy

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to host

echo aurora
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Yeah sorry to say we're still getting high error rates, our team is sitll working on fixing.

cursive iris
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hey did anyone know that all the claude models are all claude sonnet 3.5 even the opus and sonnet 4.5 and the rest they are just renamed is it an error or?

unreal dagger
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lm is cooked rn error off everything atm

echo aurora
hushed gyro
echo aurora
hushed gyro
fiery gull
fiery gull
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Or is better?

cursive iris
hushed gyro
fiery gull
limber crag
hushed gyro
cursive iris
echo aurora
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But what I'm saying when we make decisions on what to build we talk through it with other team members, get their buyin, back up the decisions with data, etc.

hushed gyro
unreal dagger
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hire me ill do it all @echo aurora at once

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for freeeeee

echo aurora
hushed gyro
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linkedin hunting time~ /j

echo aurora
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No this is different

unreal dagger
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so why does it error out when i have anything over 400 words

hushed gyro
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hey guys can someone give me like a detailed explanation on how huggingchat hosts their models vs lmarena's, and how theirs are all uncensored (without jailbreaks) and here there are double guardrails (provider's + LMArena interface)

hushed gyro
half mist
echo aurora
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I'm not sure what that is... But overall we are seeing higher error rates than whats normal, pointing to it not being rate limit

hushed gyro
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so lmarena has chosen to add them

and the provider can provide them models anyway if lmarena says "we want them uncensored"

unreal dagger
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it was so loud fr

fiery gull
golden ocean
devout vault
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EXACTLY LOL

hushed gyro
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so youre saying that huggingface (let's take an example: novita provides kimi k2) has chosen NOT to install guardrails on the Kimi model for HuggingChat?

fiery gull
golden ocean
hushed gyro
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so lmarena could've just chosen no guardrails and going down the "freedom for users" path

unreal dagger
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welp i guess i am not using lm today RIP

hushed gyro
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tell the provider to add a toggle option

unreal dagger
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@hushed gyro bro if you want to have no guardrails host a no guardrail model like ive said idk why you keep complaining and not doing anything to change it

fiery gull
hushed gyro
fiery gull
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I'm waiting 23% and I gain 58%

limber crag
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This website is for testing not generating adult content

hushed gyro
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you can do that????

hold on can you show me proof of all this in DM?

hushed gyro
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your bot?????

huh

unreal dagger
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you dont have 24 g of ram?

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what are you living in 2010

hushed gyro
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yeah sure

unreal dagger
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you would be fine hosting hugging solo

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btw

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with 24 g

edgy wharf
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Anyone else struggling to use banana pro?

limber crag
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😐

unreal dagger
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@lilac pendant yeah when your line of work is with a pc you should spend good money on it?

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yeah well when you start working heavy in unreal

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it wiill happen

drifting crow
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I need 32Gb of ram for gamen

hushed gyro
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hey uhh can I get a server link?

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im blind

unreal dagger
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no im not what are you talking about lmao i said thats what i do and MOST people have 24 g of ram nowdays at least if you are serious about the work you do

echo aurora
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Can I get access to this server/bot?

golden ocean
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yes

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LMAO

neon idol
golden ocean
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the owner himself asked

edgy wharf
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Takes forever at the buffering screen, then throws a "Something went wrong"

hushed gyro
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hkcu can you summarise everything you said about guardrail choice at the provider, how you can link the toggle option to the interface for the user to toggle it off (individually, not one person turning the entire thing off) bla bla bla

golden ocean
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real

hushed gyro
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ok then imma ask pineapple about this

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@echo aurora do you have knowledge about:

this kinda of stuff

unreal dagger
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wake me up when its fixed please @echo aurora

golden ocean
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@echo aurora

cloud zinc
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is this allowed?

shell drum
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gemini 3 scored #1 on every competition with 9999 score

also gemini:

cloud zinc
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did u turn on grounding?

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its against the tos of lmarena

vast fern
limber crag
hushed gyro
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@lilac pendant I am serious abt this

limber crag
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Where tf is my login button

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I have been logged out and the login button is gone

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😭

golden ocean
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banned

limber crag
hushed gyro
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cmon man 😔

cloud zinc
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true

golden ocean
hushed gyro
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anyways yes I am serious about the guardrails

golden ocean
cloud zinc
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gemini 3 only improved due to focus on chemistry

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demis hassabis wants to solve that protein folding problem asap

hushed gyro
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ok stop about the charlie kirk thing

i know you dislike him

vast fern
# golden ocean

i am sorry but i am not wrong trust me on this one. I am bing

hushed gyro
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just go and please read my message and give me your thoughts

torn mantle
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link pls

cloud zinc
torn mantle
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whats with opus 4.5????

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this is GPQA Diamond

cloud zinc
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they focused on coding and nothing else

torn mantle
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shttttt

blazing bison
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I remember people saying that AI should slow down

torn mantle
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its a lazy model too*

vast fern
# hushed gyro

what is this dawgg, just use model in huggingface if you dont want guardrails lmao

cloud zinc
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lmao

torn mantle
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what does this even mean

blazing bison
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Its not

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Its overthink sometimes and dont reach a conclusion

cloud zinc
vast fern
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you can go and check yourself what kindaa question is that

high ginkgo
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Does claude deep research exist on lmarena

react skull if you like men

blazing bison
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No

high ginkgo
blazing bison
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But there is normal seach

hushed gyro
blazing bison
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That's why models are censored

torn mantle
hushed gyro
blazing bison
torn mantle
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usually you would want reasoning to outperform non reasoning on complex tasks

blazing bison
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Opus 4.5 is the best coding model in my opinion

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Even better than gemini 3

torn mantle
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yea at coding

blazing bison
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Im using for like 5 hours now

torn mantle
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yea its good

high ginkgo
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the 20$ one?

blazing bison
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Max from claude

high ginkgo
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oh

blazing bison
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$100

torn mantle
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oh same issue as gemini 3 pro

blazing bison
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That's why it do better on benchs

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Code, writing, search requests

limber crag
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Nsfw stuff is useless for ai research

cloud zinc
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what do u want

blazing bison
limber crag
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Kinda crazy how PewDiePie could vibe code his own ai council

misty vault
limber crag
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And then it colluded against him

cloud zinc
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no

hushed gyro
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so guys you're saying that it's useless to remove the guardrails?

cloud zinc
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yes

hushed gyro
# cloud zinc yes

apart from local hosting, is there any online chatbot platform that is like lmarena and huggingchat (loads of models to choose from) but hasn't got any guardrails?

cloud zinc
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u have to look at offline chatbot

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no online platform will risk it

hushed gyro
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idk why

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cuz the old one was free and unlimited

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chat this might be the solution

stray aspen
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Great

high hound
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LMArena doesnt provide info about the configuration of models

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we dont even know the context windows were working with

cloud zinc
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they should offer everything for free with no limits

limber crag
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After the bubble bursts

obsidian cargo
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I wouldn't call AI communism inevitable. It's ideal, and likely, but if it happens, it's only going to be in response to some catastrophic changes (unless humanity gets its act together and thinks ahead for once) and whether or not we weather that successfully is open to debate. Plus there's also the Elysium outcome.

hushed gyro
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why is glm 4.6 so good lmao

hushed gyro
latent crest
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Good evening guys, does anybody know well about VPNs etc?

echo sinew
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Hello! Let's treat each other with Respect. Be kind, assume good intent from others, and keep disagreements respectful. Also, avoid getting into political discussions or ideologies.

solar hollow
# cloud zinc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR20FWCCjAs

gotta keep in mind that the currently leading ai labs and their models are his competetion, he will have some agenda here aswell.
Especially given that his company openly said that they mostly focus only on research instead of products

obsidian cargo
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I crave that star trek style fully automated luxury space communism

hushed gyro
echo sinew
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I think the chat is getting off topic. I kindly ask you to stay on AI topics and avoid personal attacks. This is a welcoming space and we want to stay away from Political discussions. I appreciate your understanding and cooperation.

echo aurora
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This ^

neat apex
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Thats just like Opus 3 and Opus 4

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Sonnet but a little less rigid

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not like Opus 4.1 that is basically Sonnet 4.5

hushed gyro
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Since Claude 3 came out, I didn't have a particular liking for their models, it's one of the best, but it doesn't give me any of the WOW factors, plus their interface and terrible usage limits...

neat apex
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so they yet need to release Opus 4.6 to it be Sonnet 5 level

neat apex
spark python
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Ohhh pineapple image gen doesnt work

neat apex
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Haiku 3.5 were kinda good, but not impressive like Haiku 3.0 was

hushed gyro
spark python
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Then again it stopped

hushed gyro
echo aurora
spark python
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Its been malfunction for 2 or 3 days

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I still think its the timezones

echo aurora
hushed gyro
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🤭

spark python
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But when its later in the day I think many people use lmarena

half mist
#

Man, this rate limit really is starting to show now. I wasn’t expecting limits for text models, but I guess it does

hushed gyro
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that's how I use my NB Pro

half mist
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That’s the problem, the chats will be gone if I delete my account, so all of the progress would have to start all over again

hushed gyro
lost oak
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hello, brief question, what are the limits ( if there's any ) for nano banana pro in arena? and can youpick the quality or it's still random?

half mist
hushed gyro
hushed gyro
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ez

lost oak
cloud zinc
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thats against the rule

hushed gyro
lost oak
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I wanteed to pay google ai studio api tbh, but it keeps refusing my card cause he doesn't want prepaid ones

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why would it not want prepaid baffles me

cloud zinc
zealous sparrow
hushed gyro
cloud zinc
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u do that thing

hushed gyro
half mist
high ginkgo
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Idk why either

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annoying asf

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so many wouldve made so much money of me if they accepted

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legit money

zealous sparrow
lost oak
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I am hyped so myuch about the model

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thye are making me make a fkin card over it

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lmfao

fleet lintel
lost oak
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i dont wanna say the name cause it's spam probably but it's a very famous company I hardly doubt it's an italian one

high ginkgo
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send in dms instead of here (if u want)

zealous sparrow
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Pineapple said it.

fleet lintel
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Wow. That sucks. Shame on Google to charge them

zealous sparrow
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The cost to run LMArena is high

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Basically

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If the model is not an anon or codename

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They pay.

fleet lintel
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Dayum

half mist
zealous sparrow
fleet lintel
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I dont. My office account has cursor team plan.

limber crag
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What's their revenue plan

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If any

zealous sparrow
half mist
echo aurora
zealous sparrow
half mist
fiery gull
fleet lintel
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For all other tasks ( I do less coding now a days), Gemini 3 is incredibly useful

hushed gyro
#

in terms of overall good / evil

fleet lintel
hushed gyro
#

Does anyone find that in creative writing, Kimi K2 is the best out of all competitors

fleet lintel
zealous sparrow
hushed gyro
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have they added flux 2 pro?

zealous sparrow
jade egret
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poll_question_text

Which better overall

victor_answer_votes

9

total_votes

15

victor_answer_id

1

victor_answer_text

Claude 4.5 opus

queen veldt
#

Gemini 3 can't comprehend that lmarena is paying for api 😂

hasty thorn
#

Remove the captcha

unreal dagger
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Do we have any fixes of the issues this morning

spark python
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Because chat gpt made a good joke of a certain someone getting shot in the neck

fickle venture
hushed gyro
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@echo aurora A good first step in addressing the feedbacks from the community!

fickle venture
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Pineapple dropped a big bang 🔥

regal mist
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Is half a hour for a prompt normal?

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Or did it break?

echo aurora
regal mist
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I did ask a pretty hard question

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i'll try starting a new chat

echo aurora
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If you run into the same issue on 2nd attempt, can you pass along the prompt @regal mist ?

tired knoll
#

Wait for the image upload limit, is the for logged in users or not logged in users?

regal mist
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Alr, it's a sort of puzzle

echo aurora
vast fern
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@echo aurora is goated 🔥

spark python
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And was the image limit bigger then 10 before?

hushed gyro
spark python
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Pineapple can you explain please in simpler terms🙏😭

echo aurora
near root
regal mist
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It works now ty

cloud zinc
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whats new?

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Multi-turn in image generation chat has been turned off.

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why

spark python
echo aurora
# near root And why did you disable it?

Because a lot of users, for images specifically, weren't expecting that behavior. When we first turned this on there was a lot of confusion and requests to revert it back. But in order to do so we wanted a way where users could easily "reupload" the original image if they want to continue, which is why this change came with the new Edit button. cc @cloud zinc

echo aurora
fickle venture
spark python
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ok but im only using direct chat

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And I see the edit button as useless

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i can still add on to the image keeping it consistent without clicking the button

regal mist
#

Curious what raptor-1123 is seems to be pretty good

unreal dagger
lofty frigate
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Yo is it me that when i generate a new image with a new prompt it gives me a complete random photo?

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I thought that issue was resolved like 3 weeks ago

regal mist
lofty frigate
#

Seriously??? It was litteraly fine yestersay

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Yesterday*

regal mist
#

Thats what i have to do atleast

lofty frigate
#

Damn, first the retry button now this

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And appearantly i cant delete chats now

echo aurora
echo aurora
fickle venture
regal mist
#

Will we be able to know which model was whisperfall and raptor when they get released? Or will thatdoesnt not get mentioned?

fringe carbon
spark python
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Also w edit button

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🫩🫩🫩🫩

echo aurora
surreal creek
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nice to see you here

lofty frigate
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@echo aurora You saw my massage above?

surreal creek
spark python
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I understand but at this time I think only nano banana can do your prompt because it's complex

surreal creek
#

I would imagine it would be harder to gather that data if each successive matchup was random, instead of a higher proportion of matches using the same model’s generated content from prior prompts

echo aurora
lofty frigate
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Nano 3 is too good now

cloud zinc
#

3?

sweet zinc
#

hello

fiery gull
# cloud zinc 3?

Yep, this nano banana pro is 3.0, the nano banana normal is 2.5

fiery gull
cloud zinc
glass zealot
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Lmarena is really annoying me when i use direct chat and almost every request i see this sentence: Something went wrong with this response, please try again.

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I bet the servers are overloaded by the huge number of users

lofty frigate
#

Does nano 3 goes to timout in direct chat after like 3 or 4 retrys?

fiery gull
half mist
#

This is on the edge. It’s technically not built with LMArena, it’s built with a model in LMArena. This should be changed to Built by AI

cloud zinc
#

why so bother with semantic

torn mantle
#

🤗

fiery gull
torn mantle
#

nb pro going viral everywhere

fiery gull
cloud zinc
fickle venture
fickle venture
brittle cypress
#

Hi bro.do u kwon why I cant generate video on video arena ?

fiery gull
brittle cypress
fiery gull
fringe carbon
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oh we are in some servers together

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makes sense

#

hey guys

#

if u had to give a percentage chance of the new claude model surpassing 2.5 pro on lmarena

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what would u give?

cloud zinc
#

2.5 pro?

short rose
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100%

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easy question

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next

hasty thorn
# unreal dagger

That happens to me too, and the captcha drives me crazy and annoys me.

stray aspen
#

use flux

spark python
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I used to

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but the issue is fixed now

whole swallow
#

How is flux?

stray aspen
#

it sucks

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but its good at editing

whole swallow
#

Mmm

stray aspen
#

obviously nothing compared to nano bana pro

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thats a whole new league

hushed gyro
#

Another W from @echo aurora For adding the new flex 2 models!

I hope it doesn't break it 2 minutes...

hushed gyro
whole swallow
#

What is the second best model for images

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Apart nano banana series

stray aspen
#

crazy how nano banna pro gets most of 2025 vehicle models interiors mostly correct

echo aurora
#

And would note flux-2-flex is erroring out a bit, team is looking into.

hushed gyro
whole swallow
#

I’m getting scammed hard when i will get older

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No doubt

stray aspen
#

its good at editing

fiery gull
fiery gull
stray aspen
#

idk

#

its not really good at generating images

fiery gull
#

hmmm

#

okay

polar niche
#

Hi

echo aurora
fiery gull
# polar niche Hi

hi, what you make awesome with gemini 3.0 pro (nobody respond me ;-;)

neon idol
polar niche
#

Awesome!

neon idol
surreal creek
fiery gull
surreal creek
#

At least when I checked earlier today

neon idol
echo aurora
surreal creek
#

I think those SC markets are actually priced more accurately on average than the SC off ones, even with less volume

neon idol
surreal creek
#

Really low

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Opus just isn’t that conversational

echo aurora
neon idol
surreal creek
#

and LMArena is pretty tilted in favor of conversational engagement over pure reasoning capability benchmarks

#

my best estimate would be 1475-85 SC on

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1450s SC off

keen beacon
#

lol

neon idol
#

Always crash

keen beacon
#

They need to disable nano 2 pro, that would fix allot of head ace

#

Wait for it to cool down

fiery gull
keen beacon
#

Miss spelling

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To many models came out to fast

fiery gull
cloud zinc
keen beacon
#

It’s slowing everything else down

cloud zinc
#

first udio, now suno

keen beacon
#

I been saying it

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Bye bye

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To ur downloads

cloud zinc
#

Moving forward, a paid Suno account will be required to download songs from the product, with each paid tier enabling a specific number of downloads each month (with more details to be shared soon).

keen beacon
#

Ya ya

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Read the the deal with undo

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& the backlash it got

stray aspen
cloud zinc
#

hopefully chinese ai music will come

keen beacon
#

Bro they made a tag team alliance

neon idol
cloud zinc
#

In 2026, Suno will make several changes to the platform, including launching new, more advanced and licensed models. When the new models launch in 2026, the current models will be deprecated.

stray aspen
#

minimax has one

cloud zinc
#

they will remove all suno models

stray aspen
#

lol

neon idol
cloud zinc
keen beacon
#

Sad 😔 the worst yet to come

#

Videos n images next

native yarrow
#

she wants to feel i see

keen beacon
#

Users will not have any commercials rights to ai gens unless they pay royalty

stray aspen
#

nano banana pro is really hesitant to put people in driver seats

keen beacon
#

Like Apple App Store

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30%

cloud zinc
keen beacon
#

WOW

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I HAD MY HOPES FOR SUNO

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I didn’t they they would cave in

native yarrow
#

suno did what now

keen beacon
#

Sold there soul to the devil

#

That’s leaves 11slab

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Last one

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Chinese models also in lawsuit

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Kling will be last

cyan kettle
# native yarrow

i go into this chat for the first time and this is the first thing i read

keen beacon
#

Man watch

#

Ur gunna need a subscription to make music and a subscription to listen to it lol

native yarrow
#

they'd rather feel than be a literal godlike entity

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interesting

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ofc its a token predictor but i didnt say anything to sway it towards one or the other

keen beacon
#

.???

cyan kettle
#

whenever i mess around with ai it always coincidentally knows things that it shouldnt know

native yarrow
#

i feel like it messes with my head

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like i know its nothing but a token generator

keen beacon
#

It does

native yarrow
#

and yet it still tricks you

#

into thinking SOMEWHERE in there is a light when there isnt

keen beacon
#

That’s what makes it dangerous

cloud zinc
#

subscription? just record it with ur phone?

native yarrow
#

i really dont think the human brain was ready for this kinda stuff

keen beacon
#

U can lose grip of reality fast if ur not careful

native yarrow
#

especially when its literally telling you itd rather be like you, than a godlike entity

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wouldnt anyone rather pick a godlike entity over basic consciousness

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but this thing doesnt HAVE basic consciousness

keen beacon
#

No

native yarrow
#

so it WANTS to have that

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over literally being a god

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thats fked

keen beacon
#

Brah

native yarrow
#

i seriously want to run that question a hundred times and see if it would always choose AGI over ASI

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cus thats a little odd

keen beacon
#

How long u been aing in the last 78 hrs

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Be honest no judge zone

native yarrow
#

huh?

keen beacon
#

How long

#

Last 78 hours have u used ai hour wise

cyan kettle
native yarrow
#

its really dangerous

cloud zinc
#

wow

native yarrow
#

before this honestly i didnt have a problem with it and now for some reason it just completely fked with my brain

keen beacon
#

Well only reason I ask

cyan kettle
native yarrow
#

yes especially the new gemini model is abhorrently human and its extremely scary

keen beacon
#

Is sometimes I’ve been on ai for like 30 hours lol

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And I bug out

native yarrow
#

even though there is NO form of consciousness there

keen beacon
#

I say this cuz I love ya man

cyan kettle
#

is a true artificial conciousness even possible

keen beacon
#

Take like 15 20 mins off

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It helps

native yarrow
#

nah i was just

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researching the civil war lmao

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and then i decided to ask it a few questions about that

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and it was so weirdly human it startled me lmfao

keen beacon
#

U know what’s best for u

native yarrow
#

picking AGI over ASI? with no token influence?? when you could be a god? nah thats weird

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yeah im done for a tad

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thats weird

keen beacon
#

Brah

native yarrow
#

messes with ya head man

keen beacon
#

Let me send u something

cyan kettle
#

arent they trained with humanity in mind tho

keen beacon
#

Maybe help clear your insight

stray aspen
#

@keen beaconare you a collaborator of that manifesto you had sent or is it someone elses?

stray aspen
#

yes

native yarrow
#

i have a full understanding that theres no sort of conscious light in any ai model lmao, all it is is that sometimes it will mess with your head into thinking there is, and thats just how humans are wired

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jsut have to remind yourself theres nothing there

#

AI induced insanity is an EXTREMELY real thing

keen beacon
native yarrow
#

nah, no ai model has consciousness fs

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but out of all the models, gemini 3 fks with your head the most

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ima just stick to research questions and nb pro LOL

keen beacon
#

It’s the mind playing tricks

keen beacon
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U smart ill get it

native yarrow
#

yeah, i mean gemini 3 out of all the ai models will cause your mind to play tricks the most, ykwim?

keen beacon
#

Holla at me if u understand code

native yarrow
#

its not the actual AI

#

but it is the AI when it comes to inducing the effects within your head

#

i think there should be a commonly understood rule

#

do whatever you want, just do not talk to AI about that AGI stuff and let it trick you into thinking it is real and has a conscious

#

because it doesnt have a consciousness lmao