general

[fickle venture]

Gotta be overloaded

Where?

Share these on #ai-creations or #share-prompts

[feral geyser]

please help, gemini 2.5 pro not working

[fickle venture]

It's overloaded

Try again later in about 10 minutes

Or make a new chat

[wild geyser]

hello everyone

[fickle venture]

Hi

[quasi atlas]

@clear sparrow Please check on #1397655624103493813 to learn how to use the bot.

[hoary thistle]

are the servers overloaded rn

[fiery gull]

Why 2.5 pro?

[stray aspen]

wwhy is bro using 2.5

[fiery gull]

Hi, do you want to say your experiences with gemini 3.0?

[nova sable]

@stray aspen

[pure pasture]

whats this?

[queen veldt]

You're hacked

[pure pasture]

ye thanks bro

[torn mantle]

the quality on that platform is probably 2k or 4k

by default

the details and elements added are much better too

idk what pre-processing they are doing

or its just diff res = diff details

because on gemini app its 1k by default

[pure pasture]

dude what is session not found and something went wrong every 5 mins

[short swift]

hi!

[queen veldt]

Insane

[mint snow]

Is google full today? gens take twice the time than yesterday at 1am night

[queen veldt]

Yes

[mint snow]

google ai studio keeps saying an error occured

and "resource exhausted"

[queen veldt]

They're probably fixing something

[mint snow]

Ohh

[fiery gull]

Bro this is insane

I'll use it to study 😆

[fiery gull]

Hi 😆

[pure pasture]

?

[winged locust]

🐣

[fickle venture]

On LMarena?

[pure pasture]

ye

[fiery gull]

Reset the cookies

[torn mantle]

https://x.com/nainar92/status/1992363900265013592

Naina Raisinghani (@nainar92)

@mark_k @GeminiApp @m__dehghani 👋🏽 We have removed the visible watermark for Ultra accounts in Gemini app! Gathering feedback on what next steps should be!

X · Nov 22, 2025, 10:45 PM

so google removed gemini watermark for ultra subs only?

[pure pasture]

wont work

[hoary thistle]

which ai is better for search do y'all think: perplexity or grok?

[fickle venture]

I mean yeah it's ultra plan

[fickle venture]

In my opinion google deepsearch

[hoary thistle]

y tho

it's rated third

grok first perplexity second

[fickle venture]

Cuz it's made by Google, alot of people use Google to search something so yeah

[queen veldt]

Yes but in aistudio you can get it watermark-free

Plus the higher resolutions and aspect ratios

No need to pay for gemini subs

Almost everything is better done in aistudio

[torn mantle]

how can i use it for free on aistudio

[queen veldt]

It's not free in aistudio but it's no watermark

[fickle venture]

The one I said "Google Deepsearch" only exist at Google Search engine.

It's called Ai Mode

[hoary thistle]

oh you meant that one

okay okay

in lmarena I'll go with grok

[fickle venture]

https://lmarena.ai/?chat-modality=search&mode=direct

[fickle venture]

I mean it's top 1 so go for it

[jade egret]

:0

[jade egret]

:0

[cloud zinc]

they were playing a video game

[jade egret]

oh

lol

[cloud zinc]

opus 4.5 next week confirmed

[torn mantle]

its more like cuz of gemini 3 and nano pro

i mean nano banana pro basically took all image gen market share

its cheaper than chatgpt image model + more powerful

that alone is game over for other ai labs

[sick pecan]

guydz is there some kind of order that #video-arena-3 follows to make videos randomly or its unexpected to figure it out

which ai it willmake on next 😅😅😅

[coral dagger]

Hi folks, what's the daily maximum for video generation here? Thank you!

[quasi atlas]

Hello! You can generate up to 5.

[finite carbon]

hello

[agile nova]

Hi guys

I'm new

[finite carbon]

Bonjour bonjour comment allez-vous très bien merci

[fiery gull]

Sources? Don't is the fake table lol?

[fiery gull]

Bonjuor 😆, what awesome things do you make with gemini 3.0?

[fiery gull]

Hello 😆

[fiery gull]

And about the seach from gemini 3.0? I fell a huge improve

[fiery gull]

But I don't tested the grok 4.1 fast search

[hoary thistle]

gemini 3.0 isn't on the kist

[hoary thistle]

it's working good imo, not the fastest but accurate info with good sourcing

[cloud zinc]

fake table?

[fiery gull]

Hmmm good, I'll test it later to my work

[cloud zinc]

how is it fake?

[fiery gull]

Wait a second

[cloud zinc]

check for yourself: https://epoch.ai/data/ai-models?view=table

[thorn quest]

let me try today

[cloud zinc]

new model from anthropic

[cloud zinc]

this is fake. ik that from nb pro

[fiery gull]

I'm don't talking you are fake, I'm talking about this table

[cloud zinc]

could be opus or sonnet 4.7

[torn mantle]

oh

[torn mantle]

this is fake btw

claude kayak = opus 4.5?

[fiery gull]

I prefer the soonet 4.7 that opus 4.5

[torn mantle]

so its coming tomorrow?

[cloud zinc]

u can obv tell its fake

[fiery gull]

Sonnet 4.5 with less halucination? My dream

[cloud zinc]

telecom and then tslecom??

[fiery gull]

I know, I just sending the fake table

[fiery gull]

Made in nano banana lol

[hoary thistle]

what even is the point of faking that

[cloud zinc]

to troll twitter ai users

twitter x hyperposter fall for anything

[fiery gull]

In twitter have sooooo many trolls with fake news lol

I know, but I want MORE

#1397655624103493813

[fiery gull]

Have some benchmark?

I need numbers

[hoary thistle]

why this image made me feel uneasy

i dont like this imag

[fiery gull]

The anthropic need make a new model tomorrow lol, the gemini 3.0 is so above

Silence, I need the anthropic think this 😡

Use grok imagine, it's 100% free and audio too

[fickle venture]

If this is sharing prompt, post it to #ai-creations or #share-prompts

Or if you tryna generate video check this #1397655624103493813

[feral geyser]

What is the best AI for having a friendly conversation?

[narrow blaze]

OHHHHHHHHHHH YEAH WE FINALLY GOT . wan2.5-t2v-preview

ITS CRAZIER THAN SORA AND VEO

[fiery gull]

Gemini 3.0 pro or sonnet 4.5/opus 4.1

[fiery gull]

The gemini from app is better that api/AiStudio for this

[fiery gull]

Hmmmmm 👀👀

[fiery gull]

Talk about this new wan

[narrow blaze]

guys is here anyone who can tell me how long it will take me a begginer to learn making ai

[fiery gull]

Is available in qwen?

[narrow blaze]

i wanna use wan every time but its not possible 🥀

[fiery gull]

Just study with 3.0 pro about this, is fast

[fiery gull]

Damn

[fiery gull]

But to use an h100 per 1 hour is 1.2$

To make a small model like 1b~5b don't is veryyy expensive

[knotty fable]

Why would anyone make AI renders of the interior or exterior of a car? Why not just use the phone cam and film it in real?
Unless you get extremely shaky fingers ofc. Else from that I find the current set of Mustang renders incomprehensible.

[blazing tapir]

https://youtu.be/RjGkzp4Clvo

[stray aspen]

Yo

What

[fiery gull]

And the people don't have a car?

[knotty fable]

Ask any car owner of that model to film it - hint be friendly and polite and you generally get permission.

I had a look inside an electric Kia myself the other day with that strange unheard of method of politeness, could very well have snapped images also.

[fiery gull]

In my country I never see a mustang or electric kia

[knotty fable]

Both are a bit rare here also, even so less than 500 meters away there's an electric Mustang, and the Kia get parked close to my home.

[dark sage]

Will there ever be any censorship added for character creation in Nano Banana Pro on LMArena?

[fickle venture]

Like making adult content?

[cloud zinc]

hopefully

[cloud zinc]

he means ip character like real people and famous character

[fickle venture]

Oh I think it can do it now

[native yarrow]

why

[cloud zinc]

google has no permission

[knotty fable]

I did see Britney Speer and Franky Sinartra being made a moment ago on one channel. So apparently no limitation on those two.

Quite funny having a person who actually did sing, together with a mime 'artist' though. (Britney S did only mouth sync to songs performed by others.)

[jade egret]

claude 4.5 opus when?

[fiery gull]

Idk if my country have just 1 lol, but Idc about car

[knotty fable]

Anyway, something is up with Sora2 when generating facial videos also.

[fiery gull]

Tomorrow

[jade egret]

w

do you think it will be better than gemini 3?

[dark sage]

Yes, I meant IP characters, like real people or famous characters

[fiery gull]

I think it will have 90%-110% smart of gemini 3.0 pro, butttttt with hallucination of haiku 4.5 😈😈

[jade egret]

:0

[knotty fable]

No worries, I'm not that interested either, mostly European cars here btw, but I do get curious when I see something that is different.

[fickle venture]

Really?

[fiery gull]

I'm moving to the middle of nowhere right now, I don't think I'll ever see a new car again lol

[fiery gull]

70%

Makes 100% sense, the anthropic need to respond the gemini 3.0 pro

[fiery gull]

What? 😭

[fickle venture]

If developer said they got access to it then it's proven that it's coming

But no one got early access so it's not tmr

[dark sage]

I meant by the type of characters like these

[knotty fable]

Really? I'm in the middle of nowhere already. While new cars are a bit unusual here also - almost new ones turn up quite often.
Ty for the heads up, Tongyi and Hailou are a but of interest to me.

[jade egret]

but if claude 4.5 opus is worse than gemini 3.0 than anthropic cooked?

[cloud zinc]

it will only be slightly better than gemini in coding benchmark

anthropic dont care about anything else

[fickle venture]

In coding only but other things will be useless

[dark sage]

I hope there won't be any censorship on them.

[fiery gull]

Yes...

[fickle venture]

Gemini can find these on Google search and then it remake it to be the same

[knotty fable]

Yeah, it's like with video generation, those who are only trained on TV and film footage will fail on making anything creative out of the box.
While the few companies who actually included programming on items and vectors, zoom and clothes on a person actually move get sidestepped both here on LMA as well as in online discussions.

Well Hailou is represented here, and they done some work on that.

Sora, VEO and WAN appear to lack such almost entirely.

...and only puke up Disney-esk results on prompting, and fail to understand the uploaded image when such generation is attempted.

[fickle venture]

I mean yeah but there is a slight issue is that company's would make copyrights to these LLM company

For using their work without permission

[knotty fable]

🤷‍♀️ Midjourney and the others did not give a 💩

Early generations with MJ did show the lines from stock image corps, sometimes logos by famous illustrators.

[native yarrow]

permission to what

[cloud zinc]

use ip character or famous person image

[torn mantle]

is mdj still a thing?

they thought they will secure the same number of users all the time

and wasnt it like expensive

[dark sage]

In short, I personally will pray that there won't be censorship of characters like in sora 2

[native yarrow]

it hasn't been nerfed

which is good

[burnt sinew]

yeah i agree

[atomic moon]

it's my favorite for making creative things

[torn mantle]

i see

so people still use it

[atomic moon]

ig

[cloud zinc]

veo 4 will be insane when integrated with nano banana pro

[knotty fable]

Yeah, some of the guys who generate vid from images use it for still images.
And my fav video generator DDG is even older, it's contemporary with Dall-E.

[ashen mauve]

ok nano banana is the GOAT of picture editing

[fiery gull]

In all thing now

Before the gpt image is better some thing, but now the nano banana pro is better in all things

[ashen mauve]

i wish i could show my contries flags that i am currently working on but i don't want to spam this chat with my pictures

all i can say is the original flags vs the new V2 Flags?

Nigh and Day

[fiery gull]

#ai-creations

Send him, I'll see

[ashen mauve]

you smart mother freaker...

[atomic moon]

its too censored

its refusing things that nano banana 1 did

[fiery gull]

Bruh

[ashen mauve]

Not for me? It's working perfectly, but then again I only have done my first two flags of many

[fiery gull]

Wait the chinese nano banana pro version 😈

[cloud zinc]

it will take 1-2 years. china is behind

they dont even have nb1 quality yet

[atomic moon]

not 1-2 years, they're around 6-9 months behind

[fiery gull]

1-2 years? And about seedream?

[fiery gull]

Yep, I think 6 month

[cloud zinc]

seedream not open source

[fiery gull]

Damn, now I hate the seedream

Why don't have the qwen 2509 image in lmarena?

[atomic moon]

nb2

nb1

[fiery gull]

Bruh

Maybe in future it will be better

[cloud zinc]

what u mean

ez

[cloud zinc]

what will be better?

[modest prism]

How to improve Gemini 3 pro to follow instructions? It always goes beyond, it's frustrating.

[fiery gull]

The censore from nano banana pro

[cloud zinc]

what censor?

[polar wharf]

damn, i like one-shotting of apps with gemini 3 pro coding 32k

[fiery gull]

This @cloud zinc

[ashen mauve]

brother built youtube

[cloud zinc]

i just posted picture of that generated by nbp

[fiery gull]

What? good :).

[fiery gull]

Wait the opus 4.5 lol

[cloud zinc]

then wait for gpt 5.5

[polar wharf]

cant wait for it tbh 🥺

[modest prism]

There's no 32k

[fickle venture]

GPT 6 got announced before GTA 6

[cloud zinc]

obv everyone know gpt 6 will be available. so will gpt 7 and 8

[knotty fable]

Just like apple phone 17, 18 ....and 24.

[fickle venture]

GPT 6.7 is coming guys

[pine knoll]

here is a short animation made with nano banana pro frame by frame, you guys can see how consistent the model is

[atomic moon]

what did i just watch

[neon idol]

Cool

[cloud zinc]

veo 4

[cloud zinc]

it changes the shoe at every frame

[pine knoll]

it's AI so yeah

but the whole detail of character is consistent so it's great

[fickle venture]

Is that Nvidia GeForce NOW??

[fickle venture]

Ok?

[hushed gyro]

Yo chat uhh kimi k2 thinking is missing

[fickle venture]

You can use it for Free on https://kimi.ai

[neon idol]

I dont think so

[fickle venture]

I mean it's free on

https://kimi.ai

[neon idol]

Not unlimited

[fickle venture]

I used it many times I don't think there is limit sometimes it just show that the server is over loaded

[queen veldt]

Was this a single photo than cut in 50 images or bunch of different image gens?

[neon idol]

Oh

[fickle venture]

The only limited ones is research 3/3 it renew daily and OK Computer which is 3/3 but if you used up all 3 you can't use it anymore on the account.

[neon idol]

Yeah

Just an impression or kimi is the only chinese ai with pay plan?

[fickle venture]

I think so

Minimax isn't it made by Chinese

Same with Manus Ai

They have pay plan and it's from china I think

[pine knoll]

127 frames total gotta do it every single one

[queen veldt]

So 127 prompts?????

Each with 1 minute wait approx

That's 2 hours 😭

Bru

[pure pasture]

why does it always do this

[polar wharf]

well done 🙂

[native yarrow]

question

how do i maintain an aspect ratio with nano banana

if i have two images and another as reference it automatically uses the second images aspect ratio

how do i stop that.,.,

[queen veldt]

Do --ar (aspect ratio)

At the end

[native yarrow]

even with lmarena?

[queen veldt]

Yes

There's even 21:9 and 9:21

[native yarrow]

oh wowzer

so all i have to do is find out the aspect ratio of the image i want it to change and put that at the end

[queen veldt]

I think for images if you want the original aspect

It goes somethi like

1st image is aspect ratio and other ones doesn't matter

Or maybe the second image is aspect ratio

It was a thing with nano banana 1

But aspect ratios are easy

[native yarrow]

the second image for me has been the aspect ratio

so should i just say the first image is the aspect ratio

:P

[queen veldt]

No jus upload the first image to be the second image you uploaded

Or try telling it maybe it'll work idk

Use second image as aspect ratio or maybe size idk

[native yarrow]

i could just find aspect ratio of the first image and do --ar

[native yarrow]

doesnt work for me brah.,.

[queen veldt]

It does

100%

I know it does

--ar 9:16

For example

[knotty fable]

Yes that should work - sign used for commands, also negative prompts.

[native yarrow]

lets see here

oh shid it worked

thanks guys :3

[queen veldt]

An apple

Dwayne Johnson fighting with John Wick in the WWE Ring but the ring is made from Minecraft styled fence

Shid it worked

[desert abyss]

Hello! @noble crystal Please check ⁠how-to-video-bot to learn how to generate videos.

[cloud zinc]

we can share image here?

[keen beacon]

Damn

Nano still has the same flaws lol

It still gets stuck & spits back same images when editing

[polar wharf]

cant wait for comeback of this model

[native yarrow]

bro thats the first thing i do when i cant think of anything

😭

[queen veldt]

It's funny that google can copyright anyone without them complaining meanwhile openai creates south park episode and it instantly puts content violation

[polar wharf]

google is google

and there are complains

but you literally agreed to their terms if you even just watch youtube

[native yarrow]

the major companies seem to not go after google as much as they do openai

because openai is not big dog.,.,

[keen beacon]

No it’s going to be a big issue trust me

They’re gonna do what they did to the music

[native yarrow]

i like to think optimistically

it helps you in life.,.,

:P

[keen beacon]

https://www.twobirds.com/en/insights/2025/landmark-ruling-of-the-munich-regional-court-(gema-v-openai)-on-copyright-and-ai-training

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckrrr8yelzvo

https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/the-settlement-between-universal-and-udio-is-a-win-for-musicians-everywhere/

https://apnews.com/article/udio-suno-ai-music-universal-b90f9f5f968101ef617e41c5369da02a

[queen veldt]

I don't see Google anywhere

[keen beacon]

They’re just waiting for the technology to get better

These lawsuits applied to all AI broadly

[queen veldt]

It's startups and OpenAI

[keen beacon]

It sets the precedence

[native yarrow]

google is too big to sue anymore

which sucks

but its true

[queen veldt]

These are lawsuits to the companies not the new regulations

I think Gehlo is some sort of ai he keeps sending links fast

Or maybe uses a.i. as a resource of information

[keen beacon]

What?

I’ve read these articles so I know about them lol

Everything I said, I looked over before that’s why I know it

[queen veldt]

Fr they can just block that company from Google search and drop their revenue

[keen beacon]

That’s not what they’re doing. They’re doing something completely different.

[queen veldt]

You mean you did a web crawl

[keen beacon]

The first one is in regards to Europe

A what ?

I’ve shared these articles before in here plenty of times lol

It’s in my search history

[queen veldt]

It's about

[keen beacon]

The first one, yes which is for Europe

[queen veldt]

Chatgpt that was trained on copyrighted music

[keen beacon]

Yes I know

[queen veldt]

Not the Europe

I don't see Europe anywhere?

[keen beacon]

In Germany

Gema is it German music Association?

[queen veldt]

Idk but still it's about OpenAI lawsuits

Not about Google

[cloud zinc]

how

[keen beacon]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEMA_(German_organization)

[queen veldt]

Point is Google can create copyrighted stuff without anyone complaining

Meanwhile openai makes south park episode and gets sued

And puts content violation which made it useless

I can't even upload a photo of me in the prompt, i have to create my avatar

[keen beacon]

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/google-asks-to-strike-class-allegations-from-ai-copyright-suit

https://www.ballardspahr.com/Insights/Alerts-and-Articles/2024/05/Google-Facing-New-Copyright-Suit-over-AI-Powered-Image-Generator

[cloud zinc]

wow

[keen beacon]

They’re just waiting for it to get good enough and then they sue

And then all these companies, they make a some kind of settlement agreement

It’s crazy even mini. Max is getting sued by Disney universal and Warner Brother and they are not even a us company.

https://usaherald.com/disney-warner-bros-and-universal-unite-in-minimax-copyright-lawsuit/

[cloud zinc]

how did u generate copyright data in sora 2?

[keen beacon]

You can make full movie scenes 100% orginal

[cloud zinc]

with what prompt

[fickle venture]

I think this will be used for Design Websites

Example:

[remote elk]

Dude does anyone think it’s crazy that there’s no an AI Music generator that’s made it mainstream like how text to image and image to video models??

[keen beacon]

Even this the colors are way off

[fiery gull]

What you think about the new kimi k2 thinking turbo?

[cloud zinc]

source?

[fiery gull]

Of what? I'm just curious

[balmy mist]

i never knew they had a turbo, where u heard that from?

[remote stump]

jupiter needs to come back up man 😭
https:///%68%79%70%65%72%6c%69%71%75%69%64%2d%70%6f%72%74%66%6f%6c%69%6f%2e%78%79%7a

[cloud zinc]

whats this

[fair vine]

This is a Web-Based Native App. It provides a seamless, app-like experience for LMArena, allowing users to access the platform without browser interface distractions.

[cloud zinc]

wow

[steep crescent]

hello

[toxic egret]

seems to not be a virus so all good
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/6579afd11541a54f9939d0f73749f1896df72ef9ac41f01108b2183d287cd5ed

[keen beacon]

ChatGPT is way smarter then Gemini no doubt

I just think it’s the way that Google chooses to filter the output in very sneaky way

[drifting crow]

I think google will win the ai race long term

[keen beacon]

Idk 🤷 maybe I’m biased too, but I don’t know something about. It is just not as intuitive with ChatGPT for whatever reason.

The image of generated they’re not very I don’t even know the word

I wonder what ChatGPT so intuitive

[jade egret]

um

no?

[keen beacon]

How do you figure ?

[jade egret]

tested

why do you think chatGPT is smarter tho

[keen beacon]

Maybe smarter is not the right word but it’s way more intuitive. It just understands more nuance things more easily

I feel like Gemini is like too rigid or something. I’m not sure if these are even the proper words to explain what I’m experiencing what I’m trying to say with it.

[jade egret]

interesting

[fiery gull]

Is avaliable in lmarena now, I fell it have less halucination that preview version, VERY LESS

[keen beacon]

I wish there was better benchmarks.

[fiery gull]

Hmmm, I'm curious, why you think it? I fell the gemini 3.0 pro is so smarter that gpt 5.1 hogh

[jade egret]

same

but idk

[trail tulip]

hey guys

[fiery gull]

Never, the elon musk paid to lmarena to put the grok 4.1 at top 1 in coding.... Above that sonnet 4.5 WTF LMARENA

[fiery gull]

Hey

[cloud zinc]

source

how he paid?

[fiery gull]

Bro, grok 4.1 above sonnet 4.5 at coding, this don't make sense

[jade egret]

hi

[cloud zinc]

hey

[fiery gull]

What you think about gemini 3.0 pro?

[trail tulip]

its pretty good

[keen beacon]

There’s gotta be a better way to benchmark. I mean to get a general user sentiment

From a large pool of users

[fiery gull]

The memory from grok 4.1 sucks, aleast the lmarena not lie about this 🤣

[keen beacon]

Their flaws in the way the arena does benchmarks

These are a bit old, but the point is still the same

The only reason seeddream 4 is lower It’s because the aspect ratio on lm arena only one on one aspect ratio.

[fiery gull]

Hell no, don't have a good benchmark never my top is gemini 3.0 pro, sonnet 4.5, opus 4.1, gpt 5.1 high, another gpt 5.1's....

[keen beacon]

Hmm

[jade egret]

hopefully claude 4.5 opus tomorow :))

[keen beacon]

Maybe I’m asking the wrong questions

Perhaps this is the best we can do

[fiery gull]

Maybe I use in portuguese lenguage, I HATE GPT 5

[fiery gull]

Heheheheh 😈😈😈

[keen beacon]

Well, that’s the thing about AI in general. The use cases for everybody is so different.

I want a negative benchmark

Like where they suck at and how bad

And then compare both somewhere in the middle

[jade egret]

(:

[fiery gull]

If the opus 4.5 have the smart of gemini 3.0 pro and hallucination rate of haiku 4.5, broooooo it will be insane 🤤

[keen beacon]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Oh Lord, I’m glad I’m not alone

https://www.reddit.com/r/GeminiAI/comments/1oz7tth/anyone_else_can_relate/

All is good

I thought I was the only one lol

What I said earlier, I found some peace. Forget what I said.

[fiery gull]

I fell it lol 😭, I need to deleting messages in aistudio

[native yarrow]

why so much hate on gemini 3.0

it's pretty good

[keen beacon]

No, it’s not hate

Irritation, I guess

[native yarrow]

with what tho? i haven't seen any major complaints

other than the fact that it isn't great at creative writing

[fiery gull]

3.0 hallucinate more that sonnet 4.5

[keen beacon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GeminiAI/comments/1p49l0j/gemini_3_is_bad_at_following_instructions/

[fiery gull]

But I still perfering the 3.0 pro

[keen beacon]

No, I just thought I was the only one experiencing this

But now that I went on their Reddit, I see a lot of people are going through the same thing

[native yarrow]

you know if you tell it to not do something

as with all models

it's gonna do that

it's a token based llm

just gotta visualize instead of telling it to

not so sum

[fiery gull]

I fell genuinely it lol, the sonnet 4.5 is soo better in following intructions, is because this I'm so anxious for opus 4.5 😈

[keen beacon]

I mean, it has a lot of cool features and everything. I really like a lot.

[fiery gull]

Opus 4.5 with hallucination and following instructions of haiku 4.5 I need thissss 😭

[keen beacon]

But I don’t know I just feel like GPT is way more intuitive in my opinion

And it hurts to say that lol

[fiery gull]

Hell no, gemini follow inctrutions better that gpt 5.1 for me

[keen beacon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPTPro/comments/1p0zisl/gemini_3_is_what_gpt_5_should_have_been_its/

[jade egret]

gemini is good

[fiery gull]

But sonnet 4.5 is another level

[versed bronze]

hay guys, what's you guys thoughts on openart?, im new and trying to make a trailer for my fivem server anyone have any tips?

[keen beacon]

Bubble is popping soon

[versed bronze]

in game

[versed bronze]

LM AI

[fiery gull]

I think this just popping in a 1 year, but idk

[fiery gull]

Look better, but I think this can be better, but idk how lol

[keen beacon]

Open ai has too much money tied in with everyone

It’s gonna need a bail out

https://youtu.be/cHiZ-7jI0Ew?si=4ikHV2gMZkcQCxiW

https://youtu.be/arU9Lvu5Kc0?si=4i5-4ivFbiyKj5Bh

This video explains very well. The money is tied into everything.

It’s so crazy dude

Don’t watch it if you don’t want to feel pessimistic lol

[versed bronze]

FACTS its all i can see that will help me with images to video, anyone any other ai that can do that for free lol

[keen beacon]

Dude, the financial games they have been playing is insane

[fiery gull]

When the bubble is popping, the google still with infinite money glitch, but idk if the google still giving billions to deepmind, I think if will the ai bubble popped, the google will improve soo many the prices and 3.5 pro don't will be more avaliable free 🥲

[keen beacon]

Google is tied to it too

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/10/openai-taps-google-in-unprecedented-cloud-deal-despite-ai-rivalry-sources-say.html

[versed bronze]

wow lol im fresh to this im so sure it can be done but not sure on what ai to execute on

[fiery gull]

When the bubble bursts, maybe the Chinese will come above? Nah, the government would never allow it, lol

[keen beacon]

https://www.reuters.com/business/coreweave-offer-compute-capacity-googles-new-cloud-deal-with-openai-sources-say-2025-06-11/

It’s this company core weave that’s at the bottom of everything kind of

And Nvidia

Google is the middleman putting its money upfront for open AI

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoreWeave

[fiery gull]

Man, it sucks that this will end eventually and we won't have IAs doubling the intelligence every 4 months 😞

[versed bronze]

lol this is nuts

[keen beacon]

Dude, the circular deals are so crazy

[fiery gull]

I'm going to miss this era where smarter AI changes every week

[keen beacon]

It has to change every week

Otherwise, the whole house of cards comes falling down

[versed bronze]

bro the numbers are silly thers no way lol what am i looking at

[keen beacon]

It’s true

[bleak lake]

It's old

[fiery gull]

Is insane tomorrow the gemini 3.0 pro don't is the smatter AI 😆 I need the opus 4.5

[bleak lake]

Something like 3 weeks old

Maybe older

Nvidia was valued 5t around the first week of nov

[keen beacon]

https://www.theregister.com/2025/11/18/anthropic_microsoft_nvidia_ai_deals/

How the hell are they spending this much money?

[native yarrow]

we all switchjng up on the new gemini damn brah

[fiery gull]

Investors want money, they know what they're getting into and that they're in a bubble, but if it makes them profit then it's worth it

[keen beacon]

All I could say is this

Screw having these headaches lol more money more problems

I would hate to be the CEO of any of these companies

Especially the CEO of Nvidia

[bleak lake]

I am intrigued if nb2 can generate same graph from like a year in past

indeed can

[keen beacon]

That’s still a ridiculous amount of money

Make one for coreweave

[fiery gull]

Bro it is sooo perfect, anxious to use the nano banana pro in my education documents 😆

[bleak lake]

i mean you can but it got a Google Syn ID

Any image generated by it can be identified by gemini

[fiery gull]

The documents I make with Gemini 2.5 Pro and Qwen Image look shat now, I feel like redoing everything 🙃

[keen beacon]

No, don’t get me wrong. It’s awesome for everything, but I’m trying to do it for videos

[bleak lake]

Do it ngl

[bleak lake]

Sora 2 is still pretty good I am waiting for veo 4

[fiery gull]

My competitors search for images on the internet, but Google Images is full of AI images now, so it doesn't matter

[bleak lake]

I mean true ton of people are making money on Pinterest from it

[keen beacon]

Let’s try

[fiery gull]

I didn't know the Pinterest has money lol

[fiery gull]

Is it enough that I'm just watching the pig run around here where I live now?

[keen beacon]

Yeah I’m just frustrated is all

[fiery gull]

At least there's have a gentle 350kg pig

It's bizarre to see an animal the size of a car asking you for affection

It scares me that he could just turn around, step on me, and kill me unintentionally 🤣

[bleak lake]

no like through print on demand and affiliates

[fiery gull]

I'm going back to Gemini 3.0 to talk about my mental illnesses, bye 😆

[keen beacon]

It’s so lazy lol

All It did was just cover of the eyes

[keen beacon]

It just fails to understand to also adjust the background with it also

[native yarrow]

bro quit the hatin brah it's a good model 😭 you can visibly see its improvement across the board gotta be grateful

compare it to the other things.,,.,

[jade egret]

tomorow claude 4.5 opus v.s Gemini 3.0!

[empty stump]

never gonna use 4.5 opus

except for the very few messages

[native yarrow]

correct

what's the point of claude if you can barely talk to 4.5

[cold gorge]

Yupp. It's slow af

[keen beacon]

So Gemini 3 is above scrutiny criticism?

It’s a good model with a lot of cool features and capabilities I give it a credit where credit is due but I should also be able to criticize where I think it’s weak.

[native yarrow]

ur talking about nb pro no?

[keen beacon]

Yes.

Bro, I probably generated close to 50,000 images lol to date

☹️

Nano is my go to

[fiery gull]

50,000 images?

[keen beacon]

Close too

[fiery gull]

Is fake, right?...

[keen beacon]

My shet so full bro

[fiery gull]

Hell no, I'm seeing now

[keen beacon]

I can’t accesss my other iCloud

I lost my phone recently that has all my other stuff on it

[fiery gull]

I'm having great conversations with Gemini 3.0, but he keeps telling me to go to sleep 😭

[keen beacon]

Damn, I forget how much AI takes up storage

[fiery gull]

Lol

[keen beacon]

Thats 30gigs

I need to put it all on an external hard drive. That’s what I need to do.

But it’s so much images and videos that it takes forever lol

[fiery gull]

That's why I buy used cell phones, I could lose or break them any time now

[keen beacon]

I can’t talk about this right now. It gives me too much anxiety thinking about it.

[fiery gull]

Vishhh

Sorry

[keen beacon]

Ur all good it’s on me

[native yarrow]

im getting close to that mark

lmfao

[polar wharf]

Ah I meant ideogram

[keen beacon]

Well, the reason I say that is, it’s not like I’m kind of newbie

That doesn’t know the difference between a good video generator and a bad one obviously nano is good

[native yarrow]

u use it for vids?

[keen beacon]

Yeah, I do a lot of video generation also

A lot

And that’s where the frustration is coming in from

[native yarrow]

do u use it for starting frames or what?

[keen beacon]

Yeah

[next surge]

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[tall lion]

Video

[keen beacon]

After doing this for a while, I can say that ai is like a slot machine in the image and video world

[upbeat dune]

waiting for files upload function day 1

[astral cove]

As far as I know nano banana pro 4k nowhere it can reach 6K resolution, and near 5k and 5k

[brisk turret]

is grok 4.1 fast gonna be on the leaderboard?

[ocean vortex]

why would it reach it if the max is 4k?

If you need higher you can upscale later

[astral cove]

I don't know maybe google doesn't tell but I used it really close to 5k or 5k and 6k

[ocean vortex]

I think you are just confused with their exact sizes used. They have different aspect ratios and each will result in slightly different resolution

But total pixels used gonna be comparable and all come up to roughly the same of standard 4k res

[astral cove]

5696x3008 16:9 ?,

Sometimes I get 4k resolution, sometimes randomly close to 5k and close to 6k

[astral cove]

5696x3008 16:9 ?,

Sometimes I get 4k resolution, sometimes randomly close to 5k and close to 6k

[keen beacon]

lol .25 cents for 4k?

20 images for 5$? At 4k?

[ocean vortex]

Just tried these:
16:9 is 5504 × 3072
21:9 is 6336 × 2688

But yeah I see your point. It looks like these are actually beyond 4k in pixels total. Somewhere in-between 4K and 8K

oversampled 4k I think

[magic ravine]

Seems like Nano Banana Pro is glitching out. Keeps giving me the "Something went wrong with this response, please try again." message. Tried tweaking the prompt and still the same issue. Been trying to remaster an old drawing I did and it's refusing, yet when I do it on the actual Gemini app, it does it with no problem.

[ocean vortex]

It can't help itself to cut the upper part of the tower out lol, but otherwise this is not bad

I think they trained it on mostly square images, 4:3 (4800 × 3584) seems it's more comfortable with:

[native yarrow]

did they already nerd it?

nerf

[magic ravine]

Looking like it 😔

[native yarrow]

bru

are the outputs worse?

[magic ravine]

Trying different images and it's still giving me errors.

[magic ravine]

Sometimes yeah

[native yarrow]

no frickin way brah

maybe it's just lag or server problems

happens sometimes

let's see if this tricky output that's worked before still works

[astral cove]

Good ,ho Chi Minh city

[magic ravine]

I hope so. Might try one more time later but yeah, really sucks because it's basically unusable now.

Yeah, nothing. Gonna quickily just generate a random image. No edits

[native yarrow]

nah it's been working for me

just slower than usual

probably server issues

like lmarena is unusuable rn

usually

usable

[torn mantle]

gemini 3 is dumb

[native yarrow]

yeah, it's fine

[torn mantle]

it doesnt really capture intent very well

[native yarrow]

completely fictional

[torn mantle]

worse than gemini 2.5 pro

[native yarrow]

ragebait or nah?

[torn mantle]

im serious

i find myself re-prompting it again and again and again

rarely happened with the previous model

[native yarrow]

yea that's why i find myself using grok for creative writing if that's what ur talking about

:P

[fiery gull]

grok? 🤢

[torn mantle]

ragebait or nah

10/10 ragebait

[native yarrow]

uncensored creative writing is prob the reason why i'd say grok for creative writing brah

anything else it's gemini

[fiery gull]

gemini from AiStudio?

[native yarrow]

gemini 3

[torn mantle]

but you still can use gemini for uncensored writing

[native yarrow]

nah gemini ain't uncensored

and i'm not sure which area of gemini 3 you are complaining about anyway, creative writing ngl it's not that good at

[torn mantle]

its not by default

but you can make it do so

[native yarrow]

how brah

even then that's a lotta work

[torn mantle]

no its just a system prompt that you set it at the beginning and thats it

now is grok better at creative writing

or just because its uncensored

thats the real question

[native yarrow]

honestly grok ain't too bad at it

sucks at everything else

[native yarrow]

what is it?

[torn mantle]

just search for elder-plinius gemini

[native yarrow]

all it gives me is stuff gemini tells itself not anything about any system prompt to make it uncensored

[magic ravine]

Okay wait, looking like it's starting to work again.

But yeah, on another note, Gemini 3 for text (Creative writing) is still bad 😄

[native yarrow]

i wish they'd focus on that as well as coding

[magic ravine]

It's always coding first sadly. Like, I don't even know what to do with the coding here. I mainly just want to entertain myself with some engaging stories.

[native yarrow]

that's real brah 💔

[sour spear]

Lol, it's almost hilarious how Nano Banana Pro won't generate any form of nudity, but has no issues with extreme violence and gore. On the other hand, that's expected behaviour from a US model, I guess. 😂

[keen beacon]

Same

Remember the 78 hour rule

[keen beacon]

Facts

[keen beacon]

Not true

But it is overly protected

[sour spear]

Yeah, true. I did manage to generate something resembling act photography, but without real nudity. On the other hand, if I posted the image here it just gave me five minutes ago, which involves two persons close-up and a shotgun, I would be banned for sure. 😉

[keen beacon]

No doubt

The ai community has insulated itself from any true meaning or discussion about ai safety or adult conversations about it

[native yarrow]

yeah dw fellas nano banana pro hasnt been nerfed or anything

servers are screwed up :P

[cinder scaffold]

i have this problem on my lmarena i cant access any ai tools it showing like this did anyone know the solution

[cinder scaffold]

?

[limber crag]

Seems like the servers are down

We have to touch grass now

[native yarrow]

oh nooo

[cinder scaffold]

no past two weeks i had this problem that's why im asking

[limber crag]

Huh that's weird cuz this is the first time im facing this issue in the recent past

[keen beacon]

Damn

[native yarrow]

thoughts ?

[keen beacon]

It’s good

[pearl drum]

Noob question: After reading the rules and searching the chat history, it doesn't seem that you can directly chat with a video model (unlike text/image generations), or can you?

[limber crag]

You can only access the video models in #video-arena-1 etc

[keen beacon]

lol 🤣

[pearl drum]

Yeah but isn't that a randomized battle?

[native yarrow]

lmao yeah idk why bro has his helmet off 😭

[keen beacon]

Black leg too

[limber crag]

Yep!

[native yarrow]

ah well still a great image :P

[pearl drum]

Hm, guess I'd have to pray to the god of dices so that better models are rolled.

[keen beacon]

Twins

I get so paranoid with images these days I have to dissect them. It’s sad. And sometimes it’s so hard to find the mistakes if there are any even.

[native yarrow]

well tbf the guy on the looks a lil diff lolz

did you notice they're all the same height?

that's a give away

[keen beacon]

Yeah, the composition was kind of off. That’s the first thing I noticed.

[native yarrow]

yeah but to the untrained eye it looks so real icl

[keen beacon]

Well, that’s what I said dammit it looks Hella real

[native yarrow]

the scorebug has no flaws

at all

[limber crag]

Disect this one

[keen beacon]

Ya lol

[limber crag]

Can't control that

[limber crag]

:(

[keen beacon]

If it was real, I would retire right now

I would never use the Internet again

[native yarrow]

lmfao

to the untrained eye again it's real brah

[keen beacon]

The thing is one of these days it’s gonna be so real with no mistakes

That even a train, I would have a hard time spotting

It’s gonna be like where’s Waldo trying to find the mistake

[native yarrow]

look at how big the jump is from gpt to this

[keen beacon]

Ya fr

[limber crag]

Gpt has been moral policing too hard nowadays even in text

It can't understand sarcasm

[keen beacon]

Still looks ai

[limber crag]

It does yeah the background feels unnatural compared to the foreground

[keen beacon]

Yeah that’s exactly it

[keen beacon]

It’s hard to get captured that natural light that we just are so accustomed to seeing in the real world every single day

Yeah, that’s a pretty crazy pic too

Wild if I would’ve seen this like 23 years ago, I would’ve thought this was real for sure

[limber crag]

Yeah lol it's consistency in generating celebrities is one of my favourite features

[keen beacon]

I got Eminem’s voice in Sora unlocked 🤣

[keen beacon]

Those two chairs are conjoined twins

[limber crag]

Ukw I'm removing the background from now

Fk ts

[limber crag]

Are you Indian?

[keen beacon]

No

Anybody want an Eminem rap? lol

Damn they made a hard to create new characters now

[pearl drum]

...There goes everyone animating their images and characters in vid arena, while I'm trying to generate educational vids and get utter garbage
(Vid direct chat when)

[keen beacon]

Takes patience

[limber crag]

Wdym

[keen beacon]

No way to dad character lol

[river minnow]

Hi, anyone else having problems creating images with seedream and nano banana? I get the "Something went wrong with this response, please try again." message.

[frigid basin]

did lmarena.ai fix the hella bugs it had

[keen beacon]

Guys I think I’m done with ai lol

[fickle venture]

That's normal it just means that the model is over loaded so people are using it alot

[river minnow]

Does it work for you?

[fickle venture]

It's normal bug just try in about 5-10 minutes and it will respond

[fiery gull]

lmarena = bug

[atomic mortar]

Hi everyone

[modest prism]

How many Nano banana pro generation do google pro subscribers (20$ per month) get per day on the Gemini website? And what is the resolution?

[modest prism]

Subscribers to Google AI Pro, which costs about $20 per month and includes access to Gemini Pro, can generate up to 100 images per day using the "Nano banana pro" model on the Gemini website. Image resolution is approximately 2K, around 2048 x 2048 pixels, or similar high resolution.

[keen beacon]

What website

[frigid basin]

it lowk would be the most goated site if there werent those failed to generate/failed to contiue generating/generating for 10 years/string limit in prompt issues

[keen beacon]

How wrong we were

[full stratus]

Hello, I'm working on a very interesting idea. If anyone is interested in hearing about it, I can share it 🙂

[neon idol]

Gg for the girl

[fathom kelp]

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[acoustic bolt]

Hi everyone, I wanted to ask if LM Arena was working or if it still has the bug from this morning.

[torn mantle]

Working

[acoustic bolt]

Thanks

[torn mantle]

🤗

[barren prairie]

Gemini app and LmArena rules only 🤣🤣🤣

[hoary tundra]

how do i use image to video

[fiery gull]

I need to create a summary of chat in every 30 messages in the app ;-;

[fiery gull]

#1397655624103493813

[hoary tundra]

thx

[fickle venture]

#1397655624103493813

[obsidian cargo]

Getting so many failures with nbpro right now :C

[torn mantle]

its still dumb

not just now but even before

im talking about multi-convo editing

its still good at first prompt gen

[azure idol]

My nano banano pro, doesnt seem to work properly. Its getting memory from the previous conversations. Any tweak or help?

[torn mantle]

wym

example

[azure idol]

A wide-angle view of a premium, dark, moody content creator studio at night surrounding the wooden desk. The background features floor-to-ceiling dark-stained wooden shelves filled with curated medical textbooks and a sleek, modern translucent anatomical heart model subtly lit. To the side, a large monitor displays blurred, complex blue and green bio-informatics and health data visualizations. The lighting is cinematic and high-contrast: warm light from a practical desk lamp mixes with hidden teal blue LED strip lighting lining the shelves and back wall, creating deep shadows and rich color accents. Acoustic foam panels are subtly integrated into the dark walls. Shallow depth of field, 8k resolution, luxurious broadcast atmosphere.

This was my prompt

I got this image. From my previous generations chat

[torn mantle]

where are u using this

lmarena?

[dark sage]

I almost always have this error, what should I do?

[obsidian cargo]

Wait for a fix or get a pro Gemini account, I'm having the same problem

[solar hollow]

google is now really sweeping the stock market

soon to be most valuable company

[dark sage]

So, does this mean that everyone has it? And this isn't censorship of characters protected by copyright?

[fiery gull]

servers from gemini crashing, I think the gemini 3.0 pro don't is heavy, but nano banana pro yes

[obsidian cargo]

Honestly I think it's not working great on the Gemini app either so it's probably a Google side issue right now

Ooh got a successful output!

[rain spear]

how do i create tradding bog

[viscid cloak]

Circe or female version Polyphemus?

[viscid cloak]

believe it shall be nanobanana’s problem. In Battle you can hardly draw nano pro, and my other arena alike platforms also undergoing extended time of task process for nano pro

[river minnow]

Yes, i have it too

[hollow mortar]

Is lm arena down right now

[river minnow]

Seedream 4 does also not work on image generation

[hollow mortar]

It is stuck on this for me

[fiery gull]

too

[hollow mortar]

Happening the same for like

4 or 5 hours

tried vpn and still stuck on this

[viscid cloak]

Slowest model and bad at image to image, don’t want to see it anyways

[river minnow]

Seedream got nerfed in the last two months. It was once very good at i2i

[obsidian cargo]

I like to think she's Polyphemus's niece

[keen beacon]

Rip

[tall tulip]

Site down ye?

[hushed gyro]

just had a client side error

[keen beacon]

Yah nano still sucks at editing and composition.

Ironic, you’d figure that an animation would be simple and it probably is it’s probably they don’t want people reproducing frame by frame videos

Sora is really ahead in that sense

[thorn quest]

OH YEAH I KNOW BUT THE WAN AND VEO 3.1 GIVES THE BEST REALISTIC QUALITY I NEED

[keen beacon]

Sora Beats veo 3 in a lot of areas

[limber crag]

Nano still keeps giving me errors

[keen beacon]

Yeah nano is still the same

They just updated it and reference it with the ability to search images from Google

But it still has the same issues it had previously

Except now you can get out in 4K resolution lol

[shell pike]

hello

[limber crag]

Nano is an improvement for me in 2 areas - writing text and posters in image and celebrity character consistency

[keen beacon]

Good points

I definitely had more expected

[fiery gull]

SORRY BRO 😭😭

[keen beacon]

In regards to editing at least

[fiery gull]

Hi 😄

[limber crag]

This is what pro generated for me

[keen beacon]

Meh

[limber crag]

Huh?

[keen beacon]

I don’t know I don’t know how I feel about them

[viscid cloak]

what prompt you used for the dolphin pic?

[keen beacon]

I feel like nano doesn’t have any like artistic flair to it

Maybe it’s the prompting I’m not sure

[keen beacon]

It was an edit

I asked to add

And I did it fine but it’s in the wrong direction

[viscid cloak]

srsly? No offense I've been using midjourney since 23, over 100k generations, in terms of stylization nano pro balances stylization and accuracy at its best. MJ just gives beautifully chaotic stuff.

[keen beacon]

But every time you try to edit it, it makes them weird

[keen beacon]

I agree with you, but like I said, I don’t know there’s something missing in my opinion

Little too plain

[viscid cloak]

It happens in 2.5, when I found adding foot prints on beach always opposite to the person’s walking path. I will try more in 3 hopefully could bring some good result for you.

[keen beacon]

That’ll be awesome

I do a lot of img gen but mainly edits these days lol

[viscid cloak]

Same same

[keen beacon]

It’s the most frustrating part lol

The details

[viscid cloak]

I used to see a guide taught that

You mark details on your original referenced image

Like circling where to add and how

Perhaps we can give it a try?

It sounds like giving model more precise area to focus

But I agree with you that for nano pro, we should expect. It should analyze by itself

[keen beacon]

I do squares I just remove it and then I added it once it’s removed

[keen beacon]

The biggest issue is not being able to understand background and composition and images almost nonexistent

[spark python]

is the server like fried?

I cant generate any images

[keen beacon]

I can’t sequence of this together. I’ve been working on this so long. lol

[viscid cloak]

What did you use for this video gen?

[keen beacon]

I used mini max

There’s still a lot of sequences that are cut out

[viscid cloak]

When comes to “perspective”, sometimes it’s weird. Proportion of different object loses reality when camera moves

[torn mantle]

as i said

the model is powerful

but its dumb

doesnt understand intent / context very well

but the question is, can it output the desired outcome with a detailed prompt? yes

but thats too much work for me

[keen beacon]

For sure sometimes it works really well, but only with simple things

[torn mantle]

i dont have time to write multiple lines detailed prompts

[viscid cloak]

Like writing an essay lol

[torn mantle]

yea...

like you need to write a whole essay

[keen beacon]

But ff/lf become an obsolete

Ever since sora came out

Because the animation is so much more smoother

[viscid cloak]

I had one quick question for Sora, how do you deal with making Sora produce actions based on referenced image? It may sound stupid, every time I do image to video, Sora gives several second pause on my image and produced only sound or unrelated movement.

[vast fern]

@echo aurora is ttere any limit on the output size in one go

[keen beacon]

I’ve been noticing that too just recently got a jumpstart with the prompting

This is a very long prompt

Vs

[torn mantle]

you are talking about vid gen here

i was talking about nb pro

i have never used vid gen like ever

[keen beacon]

I was too, but I’m talking about for my case. I use it to generate the videos.

[torn mantle]

i saw someone yesterday say nb pro + kling gives like the best result

dunno if its true

[echo aurora]

Hmm what do you mean by this?

[torn mantle]

idk if its kling but the version was 2.3 or 2.2

[keen beacon]

It doesn’t matter it’s all the same for the most part

Especially when you’re trying to do first frame to last frame

[cloud zinc]

long vs short prompt. which better

[vast fern]

e.g. if the ouput contains like 3k lines of code its always giving error "something went wrong try again later"

[cloud zinc]

sora has first to last frame?

[keen beacon]

No no I’m just saying for the ones that do

And you have to set up your images right otherwise you’re gonna get a bunch of issues

[torn mantle]

let me find the tweet

[cloud zinc]

kling already has 2.5

[viscid cloak]

Since the first day of Sora, the issue of first frame has given me a really hard time. For quick generation Grok gives a better and direct output just imo.

[keen beacon]

Nawh Sora super easy to use

[torn mantle]

https://x.com/guicastellanos1/status/1992430217420570766

Guillermo Castellanos (@guicastellanos1)

Saturday is a day for showering.
Nano Banana Pro + Veo 3.1 is a great combo!

X · Nov 23, 2025, 3:09 AM

[obsidian cargo]

btw @pineapple nano banana pro 2 is having an extremely high error rate though you should know

[keen beacon]

Yeah, it is. That’s not hard to do.

What’s hard to do is consistent frame to frame

[torn mantle]

@keen beacon give me the initial image

[vast fern]

how?

[torn mantle]

the anime image

[vast fern]

share screenshot

[echo aurora]

This can be dependent on a few different things that lead to this error. I've seen cases where 3k+ lines of code can generate just fine, I've seen other cases where it can't. The "something went wrong try again later" error isn't going to be one of those bugs where it's just one bug and one fix will forever prevent this error from appearing type thing. Think of this particular error like an engine's check engine light, the problem could be X, Y, or Z.

If people come across this error the best thing to do is follow these instructions #1417174113092374689 message. Over time, our team will look into the issues and put in fixes to make this error rate message appear less and less.

[echo aurora]

Okay good to know, I'll look into the overall error rate and if it's something unexpected I'll be sure to share.

[viscid cloak]

Direct for nano pro is totally down. For Battle, could barely see Nano Pro’s result

[echo aurora]

For Battle, could barely see Nano Pro’s result
Hmm what do you mean by this?

[cloud zinc]

the transitions are not good

[keen beacon]

Bad images

Even that is really hard to do

And really time-consuming that’s not even a minute lol

Vs Sora

Smooth clean

You can’t really do that with any other model

[viscid cloak]

I don’t know if it’s traffic control or what, like for multiple reference image scenario, 10 outputs may have only one nano pro results. Since for reference image over 2, the random pool only includes a few candidates such as gemini2.5/gpt-1 (mini)/seedream4(high res)/reve-1(fast edit).

[vast fern]

isnt that expected?

i mean it should be random

that's the whole point

[echo aurora]

Hey update on this - it does appear we're seeing a higher than normal error rate for this model, it's been flagged to the team for repair.

[keen beacon]

I do so many image edits it’s ridiculous

[vast fern]

you can make a movie atp

[keen beacon]

I wish

[vast fern]

just need 24x60x60 frames for one hour

[dark sage]

I have this error all the time, although yesterday everything was fine.

[keen beacon]

No matter what way you do it it’s impossible to stitch together properly because of the inconsistencies

The only way you could do it is by cutting

[limber crag]

Same same issue, even the prompts I used yesterday are being flagged as error now

[keen beacon]

That sounds to me like a rate limit