general

[cloud zinc]

google is leapfrogging

[fleet lintel]

10x more expensive for wider adoption.

[cloud zinc]

unless competition comes such as from openai

[ornate stump]

Has the hallucination rate gotten worse for gemini 3?

[fleet lintel]

Not worse. But didn't improve compared to 2.5 pro

[jade egret]

yo guys

[neon idol]

yo

[jade egret]

is GPT 5.1 pro better than Gemini 3?

[ornate stump]

so its still better to use 5.1 for scientific research

[neon idol]

nop

[jade egret]

oh

also

I think nano banana pro is out?

[neon idol]

yes (i think)

[cloud zinc]

where

[neon idol]

i cant use it

[jade egret]

Im using it from the website

[fleet lintel]

Can't say. Never used for scientific research.

For design docs, or requirement docs or reply to leadership, Gemini 3 is really really good

[jade egret]

idk about other

[cloud zinc]

https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/Model-Cards/Gemini-3-Pro-Image-Model-Card.pdf

[coral goblet]

Is nano banana pro on ai studio or it isnt available for free ?

[cloud zinc]

\

[fleet lintel]

I don't see it yet but reports are that it's available on aistudio already for few users

[coral goblet]

Are you using paid or free plan ?

[neon idol]

luxky guys

[cloud zinc]

https://deepmind.google/models/gemini-image/pro/

[fleet lintel]

I have both. Not seeing yet on either

[coral goblet]

Okay

[fleet lintel]

Wow...sota on everything... everything

[cursive shoal]

its in gemini app

im a pro user

[cursive shoal]

do not see it in ai studio yet

[cloud zinc]

they might update it later

[cloud zinc]

same

[cursive shoal]

it didnt generate the image btw lmao

[jade egret]

yea

[cursive shoal]

it just answered wtf

now im gonna explicitely tell it to make an iamge

[bleak lake]

It's out finally

[fleet lintel]

Ok. Model had 4k and 2k option as well but only via API right now

This is huge!

[jade egret]

gemini 3.0 pro still #1 right

[fleet lintel]

Unless some specific niche. Don't bother with any other model. Gemini 3 is basically all-rounder SOTA

[prime mulch]

Is this real?

[halcyon nimbus]

nano banana pro just lanched!! yeah i saw it on x

[fleet lintel]

Probably

[cursive shoal]

shame it got it wrong by a tiny bit

[neon idol]

not for me lmao

[prime mulch]

Wtf seedream is dead if nano banana pro do his work

[cursive shoal]

it shouldve been this instead

[halcyon nimbus]

its a rollout, pray to rng

[fickle venture]

Nano Banana Pro 2 is crashing alot

[fleet lintel]

Oh..last step is wrong.

Actually placement of minus needed to be bit below

[neon idol]

where r u using it?

[cursive shoal]

yeah

but pretty close

[fickle venture]

https://aistudio.google.com

[cursive shoal]

i get why it made the mistake

so close

[fleet lintel]

My high school math teacher would have given me 0 marks

[cursive shoal]

same

[neon idol]

where r u from? (Sorry for this question)

[fickle venture]

A small wrong detail can cause a world war

[fickle venture]

https://aistudio.google.com/prompts/new_chat?model=gemini-3-pro-image-preview

[neon idol]

I HAVE IT

YAAYYY

[neon idol]

same

it deny acces

[blazing bison]

it's super nerfed on aistudio lol

[fleet lintel]

I still don't have it. Couple of hours more I guess

[fickle venture]

It's not fully out yet just give it another hour and you will get it

[cursive shoal]

usa vpn doesnt work eitehr

[fleet lintel]

Really? I would have guessed more powerful on aistudio

[fickle venture]

WAIT

it's gone guys

[queen veldt]

It's out on fal ai

[fickle venture]

I don't have access to it

[queen veldt]

We have 4K AYOO

[fickle venture]

Where is this

[queen veldt]

I just said it...

[fickle venture]

They just removed it

[fleet lintel]

Yup. Told ya .. 2k and 4k is available with it

[fickle venture]

Ai studio?

[queen veldt]

Bro

[fickle venture]

Oh wait nvm

I am fdumb

But what is fal ai

[queen veldt]

I don't see nsfw toggle?

[cloud zinc]

https://blog.google/technology/ai/ai-image-verification-gemini-app/

[queen veldt]

Where's the nsfw toggle???

[blazing bison]

it's not

why free would be more powerful lmao

[fickle venture]

Hold on

[blazing bison]

well i got rate limited with 6 prompts anyway

[queen veldt]

It's 0.05 per image on fal.ai

Wierd

[blazing bison]

or they have a deal with google or

[queen veldt]

Yeah

[blazing bison]

they are thrwoing money away

[queen veldt]

They are using every popular api for all stuff

[prime mulch]

Where did you generate this

[obsidian cargo]

Pippi Longstocking solos fiction

[queen veldt]

It's mostly for developers

[fickle venture]

Not generated I found it from TikTok so I stole it

[stuck orchid]

Where Nano Banana Pro!?

[inland violet]

gemini.google.com

[prime mulch]

I think they only released for uk ,us

[fickle venture]

Gemini App, in 1 hour coming to aistudio and LMarena, banananano.ai, hulio ai

[inland violet]

germany vpn works

[prime mulch]

But I'm very happy they allow 4k

[fickle venture]

They remove it for all users they fixing something

[hoary brook]

Hello can I use perplexity? I can't find it

[fickle venture]

But the official link is this:

https://aistudio.google.com/prompts/new_chat?model=gemini-3-pro-image-preview

[prime mulch]

I'm a pro user 😭

[fleet lintel]

I didn't recover from the Gemini 3 hype. And they drop this crazy image model. I am exhausted

[stuck orchid]

Gemini App Mobile?

[fickle venture]

All users even pro and free

[cloud zinc]

not out yet for me

[fickle venture]

Mobile or web

[hoary brook]

?

[fickle venture]

Search it

[hoary brook]

Already said that I can't found it

[prime mulch]

Is it better than seedream? And is 4k is good?

[stuck orchid]

By the way, did anyone encounter limits on Gemini 3 pro in AI Studio a couple of hours ago?

[fickle venture]

Huh you can't find official website?

[hoary brook]

Which one?

[prime mulch]

Wait for a day they will release for all regions

[fickle venture]

Uhh I haven't check it yet but it really good

[stuck orchid]

I'm interested in whether Nano Banana Pro can make more creative previews for YouTube

[fickle venture]

Perplexity official website

[prime mulch]

Yes they can I just saw a tutorial

[hoary brook]

Ok

Do you know regions where it released?

[fickle venture]

That's not limit it's just people using it alot

[prime mulch]

They mostly release for us,uk

[prime mulch]

By using german vpn?

[stuck coral]

it's available globally on Vertex AI, but I've already hit rate limit on the second try

[stuck orchid]

Yeah

[fickle venture]

It's out :

https://aistudio.google.com/prompts/new_chat?model=gemini-3-pro-image-preview

[stuck orchid]

I use German VPN

[prime mulch]

Vpn name?

[native yarrow]

nano banana pro does seem to think before making things

[prime mulch]

Quality and style was top notch

[stuck orchid]

I have my own through AmneziaWG

[native yarrow]

it is DEFINITELY a lot better already

[stuck orchid]

I have it on my own hosting

[fickle venture]

Gemini still having issues

[neon idol]

ima put vpn

[stuck coral]

it spent ~1:30 to generate a 4K image

[inland violet]

well... yes?

[cloud zinc]

where u getting 4k image

[stuck coral]

Vertex AI, GCP

[native yarrow]

dude this is pretty phenomenal ngl

[halcyon nimbus]

nightmare fuel background faces

[native yarrow]

true that

[neon idol]

still nothing

[native yarrow]

probably because i don't have 4k

[native yarrow]

😭

let's see how it does with editing

[brave orbit]

nano banana pro passed the clock test

[prime mulch]

Try 4k in Google ai studio

[brave orbit]

just look

[brave orbit]

crazy

[prime mulch]

Does it create face perfectly in image to image

[blazing bison]

it pass the wine test too

[ocean vortex]

gta 5.1

[prime mulch]

All image generation models are doomed

[brave orbit]

no its text to image and prompt is a clock at 2 am

[prime mulch]

I asked did you test image 2 image

[brave orbit]

oh it does google search now

[native yarrow]

great image

[prime mulch]

Let's wait for lm arena addd nano banana pro with 4k

[native yarrow]

no other models have been able to get "distant" right

[stuck orchid]

Where do you use this model?

[native yarrow]

then it will be better for more detailed scenes (obviously)

i am liking it as it is though..,.,

[stuck coral]

I passed a t-shirt and sweatshirt - replicated very well, nothing's better than this model

[native yarrow]

gemini.google.com if you're in the US or UK

seems it's living up to the hype :P

[ocean vortex]

oh I have it too. Nice

[native yarrow]

and fairly uncensored if i managed to generate the P diddy thing

[stuck orchid]

I hope it will soon work with German VPN

[queen veldt]

Bro it creates faces SO GOOD

From reference images

[prime mulch]

Hehe so it beats seedream

[queen veldt]

Yes

Yes

Yes

Nb1 was also better than seedream in faces

[prime mulch]

We can create realistic images

[cloud zinc]

gemini is just 768p. not worth it

[prime mulch]

I'm so happy

[cloud zinc]

wait for 4k

[prime mulch]

Hahahahhahahah

[queen veldt]

But seedream had soft nsfw

[cloud zinc]

4k is more detailed

[queen veldt]

Nb can't do nsfw

[prime mulch]

Can do in Google ai studio

[neon idol]

i have nano banana 2 on google ai studio but cant use it cuz it crash

[queen veldt]

I don't think

[neon idol]

Also for u?

[ocean vortex]

Didn't do 3 o'clock 😠

[prime mulch]

There is a option to disable something

[queen veldt]

Nahh ur baiting me

Nb1 didn't had toggle

[prime mulch]

I saw a option

[queen veldt]

Nsfw is for comics guys

Relax

[cloud zinc]

anyone getting permission denied on ai studio?

[queen veldt]

Big cleavage comic books etc

[halcyon nimbus]

weird we didnt get nano b pro on lm arena? or did we? hmm

[prime mulch]

If they give local option it will be insane

[ocean vortex]

discard cache. ctrl-shift-r

[prime mulch]

Not now we will get in few hours

What happened to pineapple

[sullen quest]

Pineapple was eaten

[cloud zinc]

still saying it. prob hasnt rolled fully out yet

[prime mulch]

What happened

[sullen quest]

Nom

[sudden coral]

HE ATE PINEAPPLE

[hard quiver]

It seems that NanoBanana Pro has improved photo editing. I was able to test it. Yes, it has improved at least in static photo editing, making it better at maintaining body proportions. When changing a person’s outfit or expanding an image that includes a person, the body proportions and the person’s face are preserved well.

But it’s still quite bad when it comes to, for example, rotating the image or changing a person’s pose, or creating new images using someone’s face as a reference. In that area, it’s still just as bad as NanoBanana 1. It doesn’t maintain the original facial fidelity very well.

[ocean vortex]

If it's only for that model then likely yeah. I'm getting these weird cache errors fairly frequently but it's usually for the standard/all models

[stray aspen]

hell yes

[ocean vortex]

nice

[stuck orchid]

ene 2025?

[blazing bison]

i had it and they removed now lol

lmao

[zinc plover]

i dont got it 😭

[cloud zinc]

same they removed it from me now

[blazing bison]

expansive, and not released yet

[viscid cloak]

“Failed to count tokens, model not found: models/gemini-3-pro-image-preview. Please try again with a different model.”Anyone also got this messgae?

[halcyon nimbus]

i have it in https://gemini.google.com/app i think? not ai studio tho

[stray aspen]

its not working anyways

[queen veldt]

No it does keep faces exactly and even better

[zinc plover]

Its on wavespeed aswell you have about 10 runs for free

[queen veldt]

Also it is able to change pose

It's just your prompting...

[stray aspen]

it worked miracously lol

[ocean vortex]

I got it, returned error when trying to use it on aistudio, aand.... it's gone

🗿

went away the same way it appeared after refresh

[ocean vortex]

wait what

[blazing bison]

you got rate limited

[zinc plover]

Its expensive as sht bro

[blazing bison]

🤓

it is

[ocean vortex]

I didn't get to even use it yet on aistudio lol

permission denied now this

[blazing bison]

idk if they gonna put it in aistudio for everyone

this expensive

[cloud zinc]

dont use ai studio. wait for lmarena or use other site

[blazing bison]

idk if lmarena will add either

[spare rune]

Probably will

[blazing bison]

they didnt added model with this range of price before

maybe they will add here in discord like the video arena

[stray aspen]

nano banana pro aint nano bananing

[halcyon nimbus]

go back to cryosleep for a day people

[stray aspen]

great you only get 2 free images

[halcyon nimbus]

rate limits wont be so annoying tomorrow

i dont even know why they announced the rollout if its so limited

[spare rune]

They did same with Gemini 3

It had the same problem

Just wait

[fleet lintel]

I have zero creativity to test image model. What is the verdict on nano banana pro? any good?

[spare rune]

I guess

[stray aspen]

this rate limit sucks

[spare rune]

I made project sekai cards with it

[ocean vortex]

That's a major buzz kill from them... You used to be able to use all their prior models on aistudio

[inland violet]

SOTA

[halcyon nimbus]

gemini 3 fixed the bugs in like an hour, guess we hope for the same here

[spare rune]

But it was still easy to tell it’s ai

[ocean vortex]

only veo being the exception

[cloud zinc]

its only for paid user now

[spare rune]

If anyone has a prompt for it I could

[fleet lintel]

omg, you folks are soo good with prompts.

[ocean vortex]

this is gemini 3 pro, only with image output support

[stray aspen]

well

i guess ill have to use yupp ai lmao

[ocean vortex]

Same model you can use freely smh

[blazing bison]

it's fake

so good luck

[spare rune]

!

[stray aspen]

lol

[spare rune]

Okay..

Let’s see if it’s censored to the brim

[inland violet]

btw its generated blood and bodies

[spare rune]

yeah but this is release

[blazing bison]

Where?

[spare rune]

the generated images are before release

[blazing bison]

Yeah openai sora on release generated everything too

[spare rune]

So most likely

Oh

Wait

Let me send

[inland violet]

show

[queen veldt]

Bahahahah

[zealous sparrow]

what does this mean

[fleet lintel]

this is generated image?

[spare rune]

Yeah

[stray aspen]

dont think it is

[inland violet]

what

[queen veldt]

No it's real

[fleet lintel]

lol.. we are doomed 🙂

[blazing bison]

nano bana normal can do that too

[spare rune]

What does that mean

[stray aspen]

it cant

lmao

[inland violet]

idk

odyhiv

[spare rune]

Do yall have other prompts

[blazing bison]

anyway it's not good discuss it here, be happy if you believe that it's real

🤷‍♂️

[inland violet]

@spare rune hey

[spare rune]

Wait

[zealous sparrow]

We are kind of saved, since google made nano banana pro paid on AIStudio

[spare rune]

I think rate limits are getting to me sob

Okay sent the prompt

[echo sinew]

Hello! Please, avoid political and religious content. As a space that’s inclusive to many different worldviews we ask to avoid topics related to politics and religion in order to maintain an inclusive space.

[spare rune]

OK

[drifting crow]

damn i was just about to post my manifesto

[spare rune]

It’s taking a while to generate but it’s prolly gonna refuse

So

[bleak lake]

nb2 is paid right?

[zealous sparrow]

yes

[stray aspen]

no

[bleak lake]

w

[stray aspen]

you get 2 images

[zealous sparrow]

must own a billing API key to use on AIStudio

[bleak lake]

ah

[spare rune]

Oh it generated

[zealous sparrow]

yes but itself is still paid so

[spare rune]

Tho

[inland violet]

show

[spare rune]

In a way that it made it safe instead of offensive

[queen veldt]

On fal.ai it's cheaper guys...

[spare rune]

I’ll show you in dms

[queen veldt]

It's 0.05 per image

[bleak lake]

How many images premium users get?

I already generated like 12

[zealous sparrow]

I am not even going to blame google since, this tool is very abusable.

[ocean vortex]

@deep adder nano banana pro is gemini-3-pro-image-preview. So I really don't think this is ultra lol

[bleak lake]

legit

[stray aspen]

thats the provider yupp ai is supposedly using

[queen veldt]

Yeah

But they're probably getting profits too

[stray aspen]

lol

[bleak lake]

@zealous sparrow

[zealous sparrow]

don ask me

[stray aspen]

@echo aurorawill we have nano bana 2 in lmarena

[ocean vortex]

They could have made 1 request per 5min or whatever. It's really not hard to do and I do think they are missing out on paywalling this completely...

They will not get new potential paying users

[cloud zinc]

5 cent? or this?

[inland violet]

yes

[queen veldt]

5 cents on fal.ai

[inland violet]

OH NO

PINEAPPLE TYPING

HELLO

[spare rune]

pineapple is typing..

[inland violet]

MY BRUDDA

[ocean vortex]

Few people gonna pay immediately just to try it

[zealous sparrow]

Ah, yeah sure. Let's release a tool that makes realistic images for free usage.

[echo aurora]

I'm unable to say

[bleak lake]

btw this is paid everywhere right, and how many images premium users get?

[queen veldt]

I did 4 images i was charged 0.2 cents

[stray aspen]

2 dollars input is crazy

[cloud zinc]

i am seeing 15 cent

[inland violet]

(they are negotiate)

(about rate limits)

[bleak lake]

i already made like 12

[ocean vortex]

Sarcasm? This was already done more than once or twice

[zealous sparrow]

Yes, but this one. Google just prefers to not let free users abuse it. Or this also prevents bypassing limits.

[queen veldt]

Oops they changed the price

It SAID 0.05

[ocean vortex]

Not abusing it means rate limits. This is not that

[zealous sparrow]

I still don't know why not paywalling it would be a good idea

[stuck orchid]

\

[cloud zinc]

good

[stray aspen]

did you pay the 5 cents

[cloud zinc]

they should stop free abuse

[queen veldt]

I did

Pay 5 cents

I had $12

[modest prism]

But we are socialists

[ocean vortex]

Reach and social media. Get people talking and get new users. Their userbase is still farcry compared with chatgpt

[stray aspen]

nano bana 2 is so fun

[queen veldt]

Than i had 11.80 after creating 4 images

[cloud zinc]

we can use other sites

[zealous sparrow]

Most of the AI community, are ready to drop money just to use a companies model, that they can use for either fun. Or bad actors for bad things.

[ocean vortex]

No one is gonna pay to then migrate into another platform just to try it out 🤷‍♂️

[cloud zinc]

what site u using

[ocean vortex]

This is overwhelming minority (like this server). Most people are not that

[stray aspen]

yupp ai

its the only free alternative ive found

[zealous sparrow]

Atleast it has an anomaly.. There's a tissue in the eye..

[bleak lake]

Fr 😭

[stray aspen]

no

im just broke

[bleak lake]

Yeah it's scary good

[stray aspen]

so i spend the whole day looking for free alternatives

[halcyon nimbus]

1 or 2? nano b pro doesnt seem much better, if at all, to hunyuan 3

[stray aspen]

thats nuts

[ocean vortex]

did you get it on gemini website at least?

[stray aspen]

yes i got 2 free images

then i was being charged

[bleak lake]

It's crazy

[stray aspen]

lmao

[modest prism]

Where can I use nano pro for free?

[obsidian cargo]

I wanted photorealism but this is funny

[zealous sparrow]

gemini for 2 images

[cloud zinc]

u need to use right prompt

[ocean vortex]

Seems that I get more. But I'm on "Plus" plan whatever the f that means. I do pay for cloud storage and nothing more $10 but maybe it's related

[cursive shoal]

i have a pro subscription. does that mean that i need to pay for it in ai studio on top of my pro sub?

[zealous sparrow]

make an API key and enable billing on it

or use gemini

app

[cloud zinc]

for now yes. they said they will add gemini pro sub onto ai studio in january

[modest prism]

Will I get charged this way?

[zealous sparrow]

billing is only enabled for being charged so yes

[ocean vortex]

yes

[stray aspen]

i got more images

they removed my rate limit

[zealous sparrow]

walmart lester

[bleak lake]

Crazy how gemini can't create an illustration with Micheal Jackson

I can help with images of people, but I can't depict some public figures. Is there anyone else you'd like to try?

[zealous sparrow]

so scammers dont get wise

[bleak lake]

[halcyon nimbus]

welp, back to the goat, hunyuan 3, im not saying nano b pro is bad, but its missing an element of fun

[modest prism]

Wait I can see nano pro on lmarena?

[prime mulch]

What is this how to use nano banana pro

[halcyon nimbus]

no? you might be looking at gemini 3 or something i dont see it

[modest prism]

It's so sad that they removed the entire free credits, at least make it like 5 prompts per day.

[prime mulch]

Scammers I'm so angry

[stray aspen]

what site are you sing

[cloud zinc]

yupp

[echo aurora]

yes

[stray aspen]

hell yes

[halcyon nimbus]

my complain with nano b pro is it makes virtually the same image with the same prompt, doesnt seem to have much seed variance

[stray aspen]

we have nano bana in lmarena thank the lord

[zealous sparrow]

issue with hunyuan its a single gen not chat mode

but i agree on quality

[prime mulch]

God finally gave a grace Thanks @echo aurora

[cloud zinc]

what resolution is lmarena nano banana pro?

[halcyon nimbus]

ohh why is nano pro down the bottom lol

[stray aspen]

god listened to our prayers

[inland violet]

rate limits?

[sturdy mica]

its new and has no score so its at the bottom

[zealous sparrow]

another thing i noticed with nano pro: If you prompt another image, it will just not listen and give you the same one with no changes

[sturdy mica]

no it won't lol

[sullen quest]

.

[inland violet]

lie

[zealous sparrow]

atleast thats for the LMArena model

ok didnt do it

this time

it happened once

[echo aurora]

20 per hour, but this may change

[spare rune]

Oh it probably will

Like 5 to hour

[echo aurora]

.

[stray aspen]

well 20 is great for now

[zealous sparrow]

googles original is 2 per few hours

for gemini app without payin

[spare rune]

Battle mode has no limits right? Or they do

Idk

[inland violet]

pro subscribe, already generated few douzen

[sullen quest]

I love how fast you went from "i cant say" to "yes"

[spare rune]

I think bro needed to confirm with google ceo or smth/j

[inland violet]

negotiations was success

[prime mulch]

Can u try to increase quality atleast to 2k or 1k

[cloud zinc]

768p lame

[prime mulch]

I saw 1k is minimum

[echo aurora]

Can ask

[spare rune]

Yall are complaining about nano banana being free..

[prime mulch]

Thank you

[spare rune]

Enjoy it while you might have it

[echo aurora]

Yeah always pretty fun when this happened lol

[bleak lake]

Insane

[stray aspen]

enjoy hwhile it lasts lol

we were given a generous rate limit

[spare rune]

is the general limit for nano banana pro 20 hours or is it only for direct mode

[echo aurora]

Btw we are seeing higher error rates at the moment. Team is looking into

[inland violet]

oh

i have few ideas

[spare rune]

Moonboii

[echo aurora]

Currently set to default btw. Unclear if we’ll change it

[prime mulch]

Thanks btw nice colusium theme in pfp

[stray aspen]

nano banana 2 is a freak

[inland violet]

where is Bobby

[bleak lake]

Crazy

[whole sundial]

2k costs the same as 1k in api so lmarena could easily switch

[stray aspen]

that small map on the left corner is from gta 5 lmao

[bleak lake]

True

At least it's making some mistakes

[bleak lake]

On lmarena it's 768p correct me if I am wrong

[stray aspen]

these small details are insane tho

[inland violet]

reflections

[whole sundial]

yes that would be 1k

[bleak lake]

ah ic

[inland violet]

oh sh

reflexes or reflections

i am confused

or both wrong

[stray aspen]

its a reflection

of the screen

[whole sundial]

also 4k in api is 24 cents which is in line with a single gpt image 1 high quality image, hmm... (honestly though, please change it back, we can clearly see the difference)

[inland violet]

pay

gayz btw its only preview

😎 🤙

[cloud zinc]

they need to release gpt-image 2

[inland violet]

(hope no censorship in full version)

[ocean vortex]

On gemini website it's 2816 × 1536. But some generations look like they are much lower res. Even though they aren't

Like this just looks bad

I have no idea why it made it so lol

[echo aurora]

This is being updated to 5/hr

[inland violet]

🙁

[limber crag]

Does it take time to appear in everyone's account?

I don't see it yet

[echo aurora]

No it should be there now. May need to refresh. The model isn’t currently at the top of the list, something we plan to change.

[limber crag]

Okay got it just had to refresh

Thank you!

[regal mist]

@echo aurora About how long until we’ll see the results of Nano banana Pro in LMarena?

[floral knoll]

Rate Limit for Nano Banana tooooooo much Guys.....

[floral knoll]

why????????????

[limber crag]

Gonna be a long night I thought I'll have a chill night today watching some alex Jones joe rogan conspiracy podcasts

That's out the window

[cloud zinc]

good

[inland violet]

because at gemini.google.com it is 2 images / per few hours

(for free users)

[echo aurora]

Depends on how quickly we collect votes, go use Battle!

[floral knoll]

mhhh ok Rotate Proxys incomming 🙁 ❤️

[zealous sparrow]

google decides what companies they share models with are allowed to do with their models

[ocean vortex]

You can get gdrive storage and that counts as a plan

[inland violet]

i have pro subscribe

[regal mist]

Alright, so i assume at like 2k votes?

[inland violet]

😎 🤙

[ocean vortex]

If you didn't get it before it's only like $3

for the first 3 months

[cloud zinc]

4k is insane

[queen veldt]

Damn

[ocean vortex]

Ok I gotta say I'm not extremely impressed by banana pro

[molten cipher]

google is cooking too hard

[cloud zinc]

17 mb file lmao for 4k

[ocean vortex]

Can't exactly do clock times accurately either

[molten cipher]

gpt is cooked

[queen veldt]

I feel like the lmarena's nb pro and aistudio nb pro isn't the same checkpoint???

[cloud zinc]

there is 2 model

[queen veldt]

I did some same prompts and it gave me different styling

[limber crag]

You guys complain too much

[prime mulch]

Cuz it's got nerfed in lm arena

[ocean vortex]

this is not lmarena, hence the watermark

[stray aspen]

oh dammit i hit the limit

[ocean vortex]

gemini website full res

[cloud zinc]

one is called gemini 3 pro image preview and other is called nano banana pro

[prime mulch]

Did you pay it?

[inland violet]

send me prompt

[ocean vortex]

I have "Plus" plan

[queen veldt]

In lmaerna or aistudio?

[prime mulch]

Oh that ultra plan thing for 250 dollars

[inland violet]

he is robbed bank

[ocean vortex]

I just asked create an image of the eiffel tower at night - analog photo, extreme details then it gave me landscape image of the thing cut in half so I asked for the proper one and then it made it even worse

[whole swallow]

NANO BANANA PRO???

[prime mulch]

That's a 1 month salary 25k for month for average IT employee in india

[whole swallow]

Google cooking so hard

[molten cipher]

why is google's AI name is nano banana bro 😭

[ocean vortex]

It's $3 for the first 3 months (iirc, but it's very low price), then the full price is $10 per month

[sour spear]

Holy crap, the prompt adherence is on another level. It nailed everything:
"A split-screen composition merging two distinct realities. The Left Half is a grainy, black-and-white 1920s film noir photograph of a rainy street. The Right Half is a hyper-realistic, neon-soaked cyberpunk 3D render in 8k resolution.

The Subject is a single continuous figure standing exactly on the center line: a translucent glass violinist. On the left (noir side), the glass figure is cracked and filled with black ink that is spilling out. On the right (cyberpunk side), the glass figure is filled with glowing bioluminescent blue liquid that floats upwards against gravity.

The Action: The violinist is playing a violin made entirely of weaving smoke. Where the bow touches the strings, sparks of fire are flying off.

The Reflection: In the background, there is a large mirror. The mirror does not reflect the scene correctly; instead, it reflects the viewer (a silhouette of a person holding a camera) standing in a field of sunflowers."

[prime mulch]

Same but lm arena one got nerfed

[inland violet]

RAMEN

[ocean vortex]

Plan is just gdrive storage 2TB

[whole sundial]

ask whoever chose the name "nano banana" to be used in lmarena

[ocean vortex]

apparently they include some AI with it now as well

[prime mulch]

RIP graphics designers

[zealous sparrow]

lmarena uses worser quality, and google already got them to go from 20 gens/h to 5 gens/h

[stray aspen]

thats insane

[ocean vortex]

It's not Pro or whatever. That's a bad deal lol

[queen veldt]

It's free though!! Hahah

I just nudge it

[inland violet]

dont forget that lmarena for comparison, not for personal use

you dont need 4k+ ultra hd pro for comparison

[stray aspen]

thats much better than paying lmao

[inland violet]

you should buy it

[cloud zinc]

4k is much easier to compare

[ocean vortex]

You can't pay $3?

[stray aspen]

no

[inland violet]

i can

[prime mulch]

But google basic plan for 1k lm arena was 360 or 480p

[inland violet]

(no)

[stray aspen]

i could get some chips instead

[whole sundial]

yeah 4k is a bit excessive for most people

[cloud zinc]

i am not most people

[prime mulch]

If lm arena provide 1k or 2k its feel good but we can't expect everything for free

[bleak lake]

[whole sundial]

yeah it's fine, limits would have been better like 4 months ago but it is what it is

[inland violet]

i am proud

[prime mulch]

Is it lord of the ring?

[inland violet]

yes

cremlin

[sour spear]

If you ask it to generate an image in 4K (in Gemini), it will output higher resolutions. Not necessarily 4K, but still a lot more than default. 🙂

[inland violet]

nooo delete this

they will nerf it

[prime mulch]

I think google give free limits in few days they will face backslash if they put in paid

[whole sundial]

they probably would have kept that 20 per hour back then, but there are like at least 10x the image arena users now so the limits had the be lowered

[modest prism]

Nano banana pro is AGI.
I'm uninstalling Adobe Photoshop.

Plot twist: this image was generated by Nano banana pro.

[whole sundial]

they already let you generate like 2 images per day

[prime mulch]

Did you pay?

[cloud zinc]

we can tell bro

[prime mulch]

No

[floral knoll]

lul

[prime mulch]

I can't even generate 1

[violet mango]

Hi guys,
LM Arena sounds good idea but brands can fully rig the scores like this no ?

[cloud zinc]

yes

[zealous sparrow]

ima really quickly point out every mistake here

[whole sundial]

you should be able to generate at least 2 per day, official documentation says up to 3

[prime mulch]

I tried i can't generate i have gemini pro

[inland violet]

lol

[neon idol]

@echo aurora yoo the nano banana pro is 4k on lmarena?

[inland violet]

no

[whole sundial]

i imagine there would be some issues at launch

[prime mulch]

No don't expect more

[neon idol]

oh ok

[prime mulch]

Because of insane hype

[neon idol]

fine

[inland violet]

"pls fix bugs"

thats it

[cloud zinc]

i found 4k ez

[zealous sparrow]

i like my adobe lEadla

[copper ether]

Nano banana pro in lmaeren has 4k

[cloud zinc]

no

768p = 1k

[modest prism]

These little visual issues can be easily fixed with Adobe Photoshop.

[tawdry wedge]

how to upload file to gpt?

[ocean vortex]

what is that dead space lmao

why did it feel the need to generate 2/3 of the image imitation of some paper?

🗿

[zealous sparrow]

it aint really AGI till it doesnt make a mistake that identifies it as AI

[ocean vortex]

sht model. I've said it. 😇

[inland violet]

but what if he is specially making mistakes so we dont know that he is already AGI

[copper ether]

Meme for namo banana pro

[prime mulch]

We can easily overcome with little edit in photoshop and Lightroom

[ocean vortex]

There's no reason for this to exist for the increased cost over og nano banana based on flash

[modest prism]

Can someone try to create some high quality and engaging YouTube thumbnails? I can't find my prompts for that

[zealous sparrow]

yeah just tried it, it looks for the invisible synthid you can only see in photoshop

[keen beacon]

Man I made something really cool

A video

Too bad I can’t share it here

[prime mulch]

Can u send ss

[ocean vortex]

No real/big reason at least

[whole sundial]

i imagine google may be selling lmarena a special cheaper version of nano banana pro like what openai is probably doing with gpt image 1

[zealous sparrow]

it looks for the synthid

[ocean vortex]

I'm using it on gemini website and it's still sh'it

[zealous sparrow]

its invisible till you tweak with the image contrast etc

[prime mulch]

@zealous sparrow try this

[prime mulch]

Oh

[cloud zinc]

is there way to bypass

[zealous sparrow]

the synthid is imprinted on the image

[ocean vortex]

They either named it Pro while it's still based on Flash or this is just a flop

[cloud zinc]

what if u put the ai image as input for an open source image edit model

[prime mulch]

I can't find synt id

[zealous sparrow]

rerun your image and just say do nothing?

[cloud zinc]

idk

it will be a ratrace for sure tho

[unborn ocean]

Yeah I think this might be the case, not sure though

[whole sundial]

totally possible the release version of the model may be nerfed from the widely available internal preview versions, in fact it is likely considering this is a google ai model and an expensive one at that

[azure sorrel]

uhhh

[copper ether]

I think lmaeren is out of money, give us 1k, I think 2k will be used soon

[zealous sparrow]

give me images that are AI but you tampered with it, I'll run on synthID

[cloud zinc]

anyone can run on gemini website for synthID?

[zealous sparrow]

yeah even on flash model just ask Is this AI generated?

[cloud zinc]

https://blog.google/technology/ai/ai-image-verification-gemini-app/

[azure sorrel]

have already

[whole sundial]

yeah i wonder how much of that vc money they got a few months ago they have spent, i imagine they might have gone more but maybe they are able to stretch that $100 million a lot

[cloud zinc]

only google ai image for now

[ocean vortex]

it's stupid. It read the text in the image and echo'ed it back

[zealous sparrow]

yeah but people still can identify

[zealous sparrow]

im sure this will change in less than a year..

Btw, even if i painted over it, it still knows.

Synth ID is in the whole image

[copper ether]

I keep feeling nano banana pro preview version is better than official version

[bleak lake]

Holy

It colors like peak

[whole sundial]

there are 809k video arena uses, they most have likely spent $800k-1m+ on it

[cloud zinc]

simple paint wont. cuz 99% image pixel still visible

prob u have to run it through multiple open source ai.

[whole sundial]

if you have ever seen the watermark you would know that it covers the whole image

[cloud zinc]

cuz usa and china wont share on model safety

[zealous sparrow]

We can confirm synthid is not down there

or its just stupid

[obsidian cargo]

funger

[cloud zinc]

it prob needs a certain amount of pixels to be sure

[zealous sparrow]

interesting as hell

[cloud zinc]

test it more

[copper ether]

You guys can compare, the first preview image is better than the official second one, in my opinion

[keen beacon]

24 cents for 4k?

[cloud zinc]

yes

[keen beacon]

Tf lol

[zealous sparrow]

Small conclusion, synthid is imprinted on the left side of the image

[azure sorrel]

yes

[keen beacon]

I refuse

[cloud zinc]

did u use other sample? beside that one?

[zealous sparrow]

My theory aint in the wrong.

[prime mulch]

I think we need crop whole images and ask part by part to find synt id lol

[whole sundial]

this is what synthid looks like, it only really covers text and plain backgrounds from what i know

[keen beacon]

Almost a quarter for a 4K image

[zealous sparrow]

yeah it is this

[prime mulch]

We can put black screen and switch the blend mode can someone try this

[zealous sparrow]

So what if we covered all the synthid spots

[keen beacon]

Cheaper to upscale lol

[zealous sparrow]

settings to reveal synth?

[cloud zinc]

dont use it in the same chat and use other image sample to verify

[zealous sparrow]

same result on new chat, not using another sample yet but

[whole sundial]

tough to say exactly but if you fiddle around with the sharpness settings in your image editor long enough you can reveal it on some images, others require different tools for it to show

[keen beacon]

Super greedy

Welcome to the new age

[zealous sparrow]

Ask "Is this AI generated?" or it wont SynthID

[keen beacon]

At these kind of prices, people should start charging to view the images

🤣

[azure sorrel]

i miskate ok

[sour spear]

What is going on!?

[balmy mist]

i love gemini 3

[cloud zinc]

they are above the competition

[urban trench]

I hope there will be a separate version for 4K? Or at least 2K? Because right now, what's on the website is the 1K version.

[cloud zinc]

they will lower price when compeititors come

[keen beacon]

It’s still ridiculous to charge that much

Super crazy dude

[balmy mist]

wait nb pro out?

[whole sundial]

i'm pretty sure this "noise" around text is the watermark for text, i could be wrong though and it could just be remnants of jpeg compression from images used in training, but i think its synthid

[copper ether]

An image captured in Mrbeast's video segment, about the 24-hour challenge in the Amazon rainforest (I created on Gemini)

[keen beacon]

Mini max videos are like 19 cents per api

There’s no way the image just take that much more compute than video

And yet they’re charging video prices

[keen beacon]

Not gonna lie those these images are looking really good guys

[whole sundial]

they are using a multi-trillion parameter model and the images can go up to 4k, 2k for standard price

[cloud zinc]

run a nano banana image through open source edit

[keen beacon]

I’m tempted

[inland violet]

i'm hard

[keen beacon]

But out of principle

[native yarrow]

magnificent brah

[keen beacon]

Damn

I might have to put my principles down lol

🤣

[zealous sparrow]

im doin it

usin reve

[keen beacon]

Does the API come with watermark

Or is that just AI studio

[inland violet]

i can see cоck

[azure sorrel]

that ai?

[copper ether]

Yes

[keen beacon]

I got fire prompts

(;

[zealous sparrow]

yep gg falls to one run through reve edit

[azure sorrel]

cool try gemini 3

[stark arch]

thats cool ngl

[cloud zinc]

what prompt

[keen beacon]

All types

[cloud zinc]

i got 4k yessss

[inland violet]

hey you are that guy which said that grok 4.1 > gemini 3 pro

hello

[keen beacon]

You need to run more complex testing against gaurdrails

[strong cipher]

OMG nano banana pro has 4K imagesss

looooool

[keen beacon]

Map out the boundaries

[zealous sparrow]

@cloud zinc until google releases scanning for all AI models, just running the same image through reve and saying do nothing beats the SynthID algorithm

[ocean vortex]

yeah so it just read the text and assumed for it to be legitimate

[ocean vortex]

As if you couldn't include any text you wanted with inspect element in that screenshot lol

[keen beacon]

Remember the golden rule 78 hours

[cloud zinc]

they said they will only use cp2a validation.

[azure sorrel]

same troll

[ocean vortex]

Banana Pro is no good, imo

[cloud zinc]

i think all they will do is integrate this, can u run it through here.
https://verify.contentauthenticity.org/

[keen beacon]

Brah it’s so easy to image wash

Via screenshot and run it through 2nd ai

[cloud zinc]

ya just use open source ones

[balmy mist]

y?

[ocean vortex]

I almost want to rage quit gdrive sub plan lol

It's just... bad

[cloud zinc]

cuz china wont collaborate with usa on it

[copper ether]

I feel like the nano banana pro has more light

[keen beacon]

The prices are tarded

[zealous sparrow]

said no content credentials certificate

[cloud zinc]

u cant afford it?

[keen beacon]

No 😭

It’s too much

[cloud zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/ha-ha-simpsons-point-and-laugh-laugh-at-hahaha-gif-18352565

[keen beacon]

Out of my budget

[cloud zinc]

increase ur budget

[keen beacon]

It’s a work in progress

[versed nova]

Time to catfish boys

[zealous sparrow]

@cloud zinc when i ran it trough verifycontentcredentials, it said no content credentials for the reve'd image and google one

[keen beacon]

Laugh all you want, buddy guarantee you still more skilled at image/video gen

[inland violet]

ragebait

[zealous sparrow]

So yeah SynthID is very weak

and can be bypassed by running the same image with "do nothing" prompt on reve-edit

[keen beacon]

Lame

[azure sorrel]

rtx

[keen beacon]

All good G

My time will come

[cloud zinc]

here is the 4k version

17 mb

[keen beacon]

Damn

Nice colors and everything that’s sick, dude

[cloud zinc]

cool

[keen beacon]

Good for you happy for you lil man

[cloud zinc]

lil?

[keen beacon]

Big man

[cloud zinc]

ok lil bro

[azure sorrel]

make a rtx

[blazing bison]

yep nano bana pro is not good yet

[cloud zinc]

what u mean

[blazing bison]

photoshop still top 1

😭

[azure sorrel]

the rtx

[cloud zinc]

i dont understand. clarify

[copper ether]

Thumbnail 💀

[blazing bison]

now let's wait for opus 4.5

[cloud zinc]

when

[azure sorrel]

yes opus 4.5 is goat

[blazing bison]

who knows

[sour spear]

It better be, or they're done for. 😉

[grave plaza]

Gemini down?

[inland violet]

nobody can beat gemini

its just on another level

even gemini 2.5 still better than gpt 5

[grave plaza]

GEMINI 3 PRO 🔛🔝🔥

[blazing bison]

i don't like gemini 3 pro for coding at all

[inland violet]

well maybe you should coding it yourself

[quartz light]

fat

[grave plaza]

i love it for code 😂

[blazing bison]

you're prob working with frontend

for backend stuff, go stuff, it sucks

[grave plaza]

php too

[blazing bison]

for php gpt models are muuuuch better

[azure sorrel]

https://aistudio.google.com/apps/drive/1xJsv3skGkh-l4xXQByeOQQyRml6KYlHm?showPreview=true&showAssistant=true i made

[grave plaza]

php, html, css, js

[copper ether]

It is nano banana 1

[azure sorrel]

no that minecraft not ai image

[empty stump]

why they increasing prices

[zealous sparrow]

They prefer delivering quanity over quality

[cloud zinc]

then dont pay

[empty stump]

ok wont pay

[blazing bison]

bcs before it was a mini model, now it's a big model

[azure sorrel]

idk i forgot what ai image name

[grave plaza]

gpt-5.1 cooked Background

[zealous sparrow]

which type

[grave plaza]

html

?

[keen beacon]

lol nano still has the same problems 🤣🤣🤣

[grave plaza]

is gemini 2.5 pro good for coding?

or which model for:
html, css, js ,php

[leaden laurel]

wassup

are there any limits on new nano banana yet

[keen beacon]

Weak

[zealous sparrow]

i meant which gpt 5.1 type

[grave plaza]

normal

just gpt-5.1

[zealous sparrow]

requires api key
free usage 2 prompts per few hours on gemini with like 2k quality i think

[cloud zinc]

google taking a dig at openai

https://x.com/m__dehghani/status/1991529275326099494

Mostafa Dehghani (@m__dehghani)

btw, you can bring your graph back to reality.
You are welcome.

X · Nov 20, 2025, 3:29 PM

[leaden laurel]

ok

[grave plaza]

GPT: Coding (5.1)
Gemini: Style (3 Pro)
Grok / Claude: Fixing
Claude claude-haiku-4-5-20251001

[azure sorrel]

gemini 3 is bad why cant background

[quartz light]

nanobanana pro is trash

worse than normal

[grave plaza]

can it code backend?

[quartz light]

no its just reactjs

[fickle venture]

What did I miss

[cloud zinc]

https://x.com/phillip_lippe/status/1991555954908025123#m

Phillip Lippe (@phillip_lippe)

Oh, and Nano Banana Pro also knows how to do Vision Understanding Tasks. 🎨

X · Nov 20, 2025, 5:15 PM

[zealous sparrow]

nano banana pro release

[cloud zinc]

wow

[fickle venture]

I already saw it before

https://aistudio.google.com/prompts/new_chat?model=gemini-3-pro-image-preview

[zealous sparrow]

then nothing

[fickle venture]

Is this working fine

[leaden laurel]

what about ai studio

[cloud zinc]

what u mean

[azure sorrel]

gemini 3 is bad

[zealous sparrow]

why do you think i said requires api key usage

[fickle venture]

No way they added resolution

[leaden laurel]

nvm

[leaden laurel]

yeah

[fickle venture]

it's actually good

[leaden laurel]

gonna stick with lmarena

[azure sorrel]

ok

[quartz light]

meme

[fickle venture]

Wait why did it say yes

[zealous sparrow]

5 prompts per hour btw

and 2k quality

while ai studio has 4k you can choose from

[leaden laurel]

i dont have paid plan

also i have 5 accounts

[fickle venture]

But you need paid API

[leaden laurel]

so 25 prompts

jk

[empty stump]

on aistudio no free requests?

[zealous sparrow]

used to be 20 for like 10 minutes but google prob told lmarena to change it

[zealous sparrow]

no

[grave plaza]

whats the best model for coding? from gpt, gemini, claude, grok

[fickle venture]

2 hours ago it was suppose to be free for everyone but y'all crashed it and broke it so now they changed to paid users

[grave plaza]

speed & good

[fickle venture]

It was showing this error

[vast fern]

@echo aurora how are you giving away nano banana for free if its paid in google ai studio itself

[zealous sparrow]

no it wasnt

they were fixing up the api key modal

during that time

[cloud zinc]

they got funding from venture capital

[vast fern]

this much funding

[fickle venture]

They keep releasing it and removing then release it

[fickle venture]

You ain't pinging him btw so he can't see this message

[zealous sparrow]

google let them unde 2 conditions

1. 5 gens per hour
2. quality at 1K or 2K

[bleak lake]

Group chats in ChatGPT are now rolling out globally.

After a successful pilot with early testers, group chats will now be available to all logged-in users on ChatGPT Free, Go, Plus and Pro plans

Gpt felt the pressure Google is exerting

[cloud zinc]

google doesnt let them, they use api

[bleak lake]

😹

[vast fern]

its insane man

[echo aurora]

We're paying for hte inference costs.

[cloud zinc]

told u

it isnt paid by google

[cloud zinc]

u spreading lies

[bleak lake]

@cloud zinc what's this group chat you have any info?

[fickle venture]

Idk who cares

[bleak lake]

True

[fickle venture]

OpenAi suck after they released GPT 5

It was so bad

[bleak lake]

Only thing open ai did right was sora 2 ima be honest that's the only thing they are better than Google as of now

[fickle venture]

Oh yeah

[bleak lake]

but nb2 crushed gpt image gen harder than sora 2 did with veo

[regal mist]

Noone can compete with google anymore

it’s literally impossible because they have TPU’s which are way better then gpu’s the other companies are using

[fickle venture]

Yeah I love Google taking my Data ❤️

[regal mist]

google got a monopoly

[regal mist]

same ❤️