general

[native yarrow]

ahh yeah

lmfao

my mother was a dentist at one point so

idk, i imagine that they don't get paid well

[keen beacon]

I mean, that’s a lot of student debt

One of the reasons dentistry so expensive in the United States

[native yarrow]

trade jobs like plumbing electricity etc pay the highest because nobody wants to do them

the average person just DOESNT wanna learn that and do it themselves

yes that includes oil rigging as well..,.

[keen beacon]

Yeah, I noticed everybody wants to be some kind of entrepreneur or something so techie

[native yarrow]

north sea etc that stuff is spooky and nobody wants to do that

[keen beacon]

Never once crossed my mind

[native yarrow]

like dude genuinely just get in the plumbing business or carpeting even the tedious jobs? pay you so much..,

[keen beacon]

Know I know the limitations of my capabilities

[native yarrow]

you'll be stacked

[regal zealot]

im never planning to go to united states.. beacuse its not safeee.... they instantly gonna brainwash me.. they have labs in there.. controlled by rich people..

[keen beacon]

Or sales

Think about it like this if you sell an item worth $10 and you sell it to 10 people a day that’s 100 bucks

[glacial mulch]

💀

[regal zealot]

so no one can get more intell then themm..

[keen beacon]

Or you could sell $100 item to two people that’s 200 bucks a day

I mean you look at some of these AI services

[regal zealot]

im not planning for sal.e my time..

[keen beacon]

To buy credits for upscaling image, upscaling, or video or whatever

10$ monthly subscription

5$ for 50 credits

[regal zealot]

.

[keen beacon]

I mean, that’s pretty good

The question is, is anybody willing to pay you for your time?

And what exactly and how much is your time worth?

[native yarrow]

that's good money

the hard part is getting the sale

[regal zealot]

worth nothing.. immaa not gonna selll it..

[native yarrow]

i haven't done that but i've done car washing and window cleaning

[keen beacon]

You ever been on eBay

[native yarrow]

pays REALLY good money even as a summer job

[keen beacon]

People just sell junk

[native yarrow]

yeah lolz

and people buy it

[regal zealot]

time if its gone.. its gone forever..

[keen beacon]

What I’m saying is go look at one of those buyers next time you’re on there just their sales

I mean some of them probably make 500 bucks a day some of the big ones

So sales isn’t a bad way to do it too

Some people sell homes bring a fat commission

[native yarrow]

but like even as a summer job you can earn if you're lucky $300 a day

on a 6 or 5 hour shift.,,.

[keen beacon]

I don’t think a lot of people make $300 a day that might be just the average nationally

[fair vine]

Add perplexity for comparison.

[native yarrow]

that's very good, if you're a teen that's elite, an adult that's alright

that'd mean your end of week pay is

uhhhhh

2100

dollars

not bad

[regal zealot]

6-5 hourss???? tooo far awayyyy.. i was talking about not selling minutess.. u mean hourrrs????

[keen beacon]

Well, people only work five days a week

Most people always 40 hour work week

[native yarrow]

yeah it's a solid income

oh i forgot the days

okay well if you manage to wash cars

$300 a day over 6 hours

[keen beacon]

6 gs a month but that’s not including taxes and everything else

[native yarrow]

5 days

let's do 5 days

[keen beacon]

I’d say most people make around 200 a day

[native yarrow]

1500

and weekends off

[keen beacon]

Average

[native yarrow]

that's good if you're just car washing

easy

:P

[keen beacon]

Yeah, that is really good if your car washing

In Georgia and Wyoming, the minimum wage is 725 an hour

So if you work eight hours, that’s 58 bucks

Roughly 300 a week

[native yarrow]

yuppp

geez i've all smart conversationed myself out.,,.

[regal zealot]

whats yall doing now? whats yall working for?

[native yarrow]

i am doing the thing i just talked about, summer stuff, because i play football and can't have an organized job rn.,.,

.<

[regal zealot]

are u sure, u are not have jobs?

[native yarrow]

yeah if you play football you don't have time for an organized job at least one locally, ones that are just spring or summer are usually out of my distance range

football is from may - october/november if your team makes playoffs

[regal zealot]

im asking is why are u trying to brainwash me? like make me modern sla,ve?

like just copy of others people?

its not good thought..

[native yarrow]

not tryna do that man lolz

[regal zealot]

u indeed did..

are u jooking or What?

thats not funny

[cloud zinc]

u have job?

[hushed gyro]

@echo aurora do you know which person specifically in LMArena manages the interface (so like all the functions: e.g. all the buttons in chat) ? I would like to contact them

[plucky sparrow]

Agi is here guys

[boreal saddle]

Iq is basically lowkey eugenics, especially the original tests.

[keen beacon]

Ai will force everyone to get a job 😭

Unless the algorithm blesses you

[vivid coral]

wait....we aren't getting paid in here for our testing services?!

[keen beacon]

We’re voluntarily training it

That way he gets to know it’s better so we could find the right occupation for us

[echo aurora]

The best way feedback is passed along to the team is via the #1372230675914031105 channel. It's how we keep feedback organized.

[keen beacon]

I’m waiting for the first Neo robot controversy lol

[vivid coral]

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

ahhhh,,,,makes sense

[regal zealot]

what?

[regal zealot]

then why i do need to be sl.ave? like working for m0ney?

if u see that humans should not be sl.aves?

only to pray to god..

[exotic nebula]

Hey guys

oh nvm

[regal zealot]

should i laugh?

[exotic nebula]

yea im lazy to check the site out :p

[regal zealot]

do u really need that gemini?

[exotic nebula]

ive several private tests to run on. so far all the sota models have failed it. Curious to run it

P.S: I'm a blue teamer

[cloud zinc]

what u work for

[exotic nebula]

what is pineapple doing

been a long time eh?

[ashen mauve]

probably sleeping

[elder solar]

is there any difference about nano banana pro?

[mystic sable]

1

[golden ocean]

true

[brisk turret]

why isnt 5.1 on the leaderboard yet? when gemini 3 is?

[queen veldt]

We said same about bl#ck people

[quartz light]

yall

whats interesting is

gemini 3 does NOT follow my fragments iteration system

no matter what

i even got gem 3 to refine its own sys prompt to stop it from cutting to just outputting the final code

but it still does

[ivory dune]

what AI company uses ai model raptor-1110?

[queen veldt]

Try making it roleplay

Say you're student learning coding or something

<@&1349916362595635286>

[quartz light]

nope

spent an hour

trying

[queen veldt]

Well fk

[quartz light]

gemini 3 is so different

dude

[quartz light]

so basically

it hardcodes the final answer in its thinking process

and its thinking process isnt long enough

so it doesnt give me 50 iterations

no matter what

i genuinely tried 50 different sys prompts it made for itself and i gave it its own answers from another convo to make it analyse n fix

but it still doesnt work

so thinking is where everything happens ig, it cant make a lot of new content in its output it seems like

[ivory dune]

i tried googling it but had no results

[magic ravine]

Just saw Gemini 3 and tested it out. Wtf, why is it so bad at writing? You'd think it'd be an upgrade but somehow it's worse than GPT-5!

[torn mantle]

No!

Its not bad!!!!!!!!!

😡

[magic ravine]

It's bad!!!!!!!!

😡

[torn mantle]

hmm maybe this can help

although i disagree with learning

should be gemini 3 pro / 2.5 pro

[magic ravine]

I just asked it to write a top ten best villain songs and for Only Second Rate, it mentions in the lyrics, "You've got the personality of a lemon!" 😭 🙏 No no no! That never happened at all! Somehow it got even dumber with general knowledge.

[magic ravine]

Thanks for this though. Gonna test out 5.1 real quick

[torn mantle]

fast

quick

im waiting 😖

[magic ravine]

Lol

Alright, tested 5.1 for a Scooby-Doo/Courage the Cowardly Dog meeting Slender Man crossover and asked for 5000 words or more. Gave me 11K words. Ngl, pretty impressive there. Of course, writing style is typical GPT-style with its lack of paragraphs and such but some usual tweaking and guidance, it can be improved. But yeah, really impressed there. Still, really disappointed in Gemini 3 but I guess it was never designed for creative writing and more for coding.

[golden ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[quartz light]

lol..

imo everything should be gemini 3

except for writing

[quartz light]

but imo its good at writing

i just dont use it for story/rp slop

[magic ravine]

Not a fan of roleplaying here either but it's fun to create stories whenever a wild idea comes up.

[magic stag]

For what

This?

[dire talon]

hello

[little mesa]

what does this mean? issue with prompt or issues with service?

[golden ocean]

what the sigma

[deft rock]

Gere um arquivo para tls tunnel vpn que me gere mbs com velocidade superior a 1 mb por segundo na rede vodacom

[drifting crow]

Bros speaking Latin

[blazing bison]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-squidward-tentacles-spongebob-look-around-awkward-gif-496727432057798195

[stuck mantle]

hello How areyoy

can i make video here long video free ???

[ocean vortex]

LOL

we need Pro Max

[hearty summit]

Hi i newbie here, may i ask how i know which channel is sora2？

[fiery gull]

No, just 8 sec

[sonic flax]

Hello, why this?

But I'm talking to 3, right? Not 1.5.

[drifting crow]

[fleet lintel]

models are not self aware. They need system instruction to tell them who they are. Looks like Google didn't do good job or didnt provide system instruction to the model

[thin current]

Guys, I can't log in with Google

[rugged nacelle]

ola

[thin current]

I think this is meant for the devs (?)

So, I switched from the beta to lmarena.ai and it seems to be working

[storm lantern]

Guys hows the new Gemini 3 pro compared to the previous 2.5 pro?

[tawdry widget]

Guys there was a coding agent that lets you use Gemini 3 pro for free?

[opaque crescent]

yeah its google antigravity

[tawdry widget]

What is it?

What does it give over codex or any other agent?

[rocky mauve]

That’s only for Mac 😔

[little lodge]

gm

[rocky mauve]

Never mind I’m blind

[ocean ferry]

seems like gemini 3 web design and svg gen are nerfed

i hope it will get better at full release since it's still preview

[ocean vortex]

It seems to me like the main flaw of 3.0Pro comparing with GPT5 is still encoding/decoding or manual 'meticulous' crunching of the numbers

but they did improve in areas it was already strong quite significantly it must be said

Output length it is comfortable with appears to be sub-25k. That by itself may be the main reason for it

[ocean ferry]

it's lazy ahh compared to ecpt and x28

or not as creative as ecpt

[fiery gull]

yeah, its gemini 3.0

[opaque crescent]

Mac, Linux, Windows are available

It shows a weird bug whenever you first go into the site

[final lintel]

is lm arena down?

i cant select any api

[fiery gull]

for me is working

[final lintel]

weird

[devout vault]

I got nano banana pro

Lol

[final lintel]

what the hell is this

[round sedge]

i thought gem 2.5 pro was in 2024

[final lintel]

where can i make error ticket

[near gust]

Hi everyone, does LMArena even have an app, or does it work purely through the website?

[gilded trail]

da same prompt

[fiery gull]

just site, but I use a fuction from chrome to make a app with the site

[fiery gull]

the aistudio said jan 2025 too

[gaunt roost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq5450PJmRo

[vivid coral]

I thought I'd wake up with Gemini 3 in the search arena this morning....wtf. Or at least at ChatGPT 5.1 search. But nothing 😭😭

[lone summit]

also wondering this

[lofty frigate]

Anyone knows how to generate images with gemini 3?

[river briar]

Ola everyone, good to be here

[sour spear]

Better in every aspect. Feels quite similar, but the results are even better, though 2.5 was already (and still is) very good. It's a much better upgrade than GPT-5 over o3 for example

[copper ether]

Nano banana 2

[gaunt spade]

where u got it

..

[polar wharf]

damn gg

[copper ether]

I have tested about a few pictures

[polar wharf]

guys give prompts for nano banana 2

[copper ether]

The second photo is after the first photo was edited.

[coral goblet]

Where do you access to nano banana 2?

[copper ether]

In some Google group, he gave a test, but due to overload, there was no more test.

[gaunt spade]

bro can u invite me

[copper ether]

Temporarily or not tested anymore, but I still share with you

[gaunt spade]

u cant make images anymore

?

[copper ether]

He locked access because quite a lot of people used it, overloaded you need to verify you are a Dev or celebrity

[lilac nimbus]

Do you agree?

[gaunt spade]

its ok, can u invite me to the server

so i can see

[copper ether]

Yes

[wicked sage]

gemini 3 pro ofc??

[balmy mist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chr2I7CZTfk

[wicked sage]

antigravity > cli

[fleet lintel]

LoL.. please

[fleet lintel]

I thought rift runner and Gemini 3 pro is same?? Bad benchmark?

What benchmark is this?

[fiery gull]

Aicodeking youtuber

I like the benchmark, but now is useless 🤣

[wicked sage]

free tool with gemini 3 pro (high and low), sonnet 4.5 + thinking AND gpt-oss 120b vs a cli tool only for google ai pro members and gemini 3 pro is available only with ultra

who wins

[fleet lintel]

Gemini is in the business of destroying Benchmarks

[wicked sage]

be SO deadass with me rn

[fleet lintel]

They have to improve the tool. Currently not worth switching from cursor

[wicked sage]

ok but

vs a cli tool only for google ai pro members and gemini 3 pro is available only with ultra

[fleet lintel]

They also need to improve cli tool. But I see them making good progress on gemini-cli ...I have hope here

With antigravity, I'll watch and see before going big on it

Ok serious question:

Is grok 4.1 really 50 elo better than gpt-5-high?

Seems wrong? Or grok is really that much better now?

[sonic flax]

Friends, in lmarena code, does it only create the HTML?

[grave plaza]

are there any usage limits?

[unborn ocean]

Only because of the case law bench

It performs like Gemini 2.5 flash lite on the bench

So something has to be wrong

[raw sage]

hello

how i add this AI in my discord server

[hollow ivy]

Sonnet-4.5 still is king, i just tested it in SVG
it seems, gemini 3 is still in preview-mode

its SVG is very bad, comparable to flash

[grave plaza]

I GOT RATELIMITED FOR CLAUDE OPUS ahhhhhhh

[hollow ivy]

it's underwhelming for me :/

an incremental update

but, at least it's decent for roleplaying/creative writing

for coding, i'd still use Claude-4.5

[grave plaza]

great

[inland quest]

At least 3.0 do not praises user as genius for any action, unlike 2.5

[ornate agate]

Gemini 3 is just a game changer imo

Very strong update over all. Like it’s just “generally good” and I haven’t felt that way about a model release in ages. Yes it’s an increment but a significant one over an already very strong previous model.

It’s also improved in basically every area rather than the classic “oh uh well it’s really agentic guys and scores amazingly on this new benchmark we made” which we have seen a lot of recently

I think that in areas where other models are already very good (eg math), the improvement is smaller tho.

[fiery gull]

Anxious for opus 4.5 :).

@hushed gyro

What benchmark is this?

[hushed gyro]

☠️

[fiery gull]

Look on the bright side, he became famous and people are going to discover his ideas 🤣

[placid flame]

@summer sorrel Please head to #1397655624103493813 for a detailed guide on how to use the bot. Also, note that this is an English only server.

[tawny brook]

Why would you need to get 2 votes to see which model generated the video, is 1 not enough?

[random wolf]

is gimini 3 pro working?

[solar hollow]

google is about to overtake microsoft in market cap

[leaden sun]

sounds like gemini has personality traits that are equivalent to dignity, integrity and self-respect?

then dont give them training data that are about humans

especially those about human emotions

human emotions are still active open research field mister

there are still so much we dont know about it

[sharp mirage]

Hi

I need this

[leaden sun]

reminds me of this poor guy here
https://www.reddit.com/r/claudexplorers/comments/1p0tfrj/ok_so_whats_happening_please_help/

claude has same problem, probably worse than gemini

have you tried to ask gemini why it doesnt want to write things you told it to write?

when claude does that to me, i do therapy sessions, yes, it's wasting tokens, but it helps, I'm lucky with gemini so far, thank god

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapy-types/psychoanalytic-therapy

https://tenor.com/view/excuse-me-audrey-hepburn-gif-10537418

[glass arch]

hey guys how good is gemini pro 3 compared to chatgpt 5.1 high reason effort

[ornate agate]

If you’re getting refusals from it idk. I guess it’s not an RP model

This is just so funny

[leaden sun]

you wont get anything meaningful without therapy session I'm afraid, he likes confabulating... A LOT

[thick patio]

I have read the privacy policy. If I'm uploading any image, does that mean that the image may be uploaded on the models lmarena is using? My client may not want that so asking.

[golden ocean]

grok 5 imagine

[stray aspen]

wdym grok 5

[leaden sun]

why not? i dont use ais that often, when then i investigate thoroughly if they refuse

what do you mean with "anything personal", like studying? information retrieval? asking for opinions?

https://tenor.com/view/hepburn-breakfast-at-tiffianys-smoke-gif-13733337

[ornate agate]

What’s it refusing then? I didn’t have any so far.

It has opinionated way of replying I guess

[leaden sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92-02TOjntI

[ornate agate]

Penrose believes that AI consciousness is impossible btw

[leaden sun]

he used to think that, i think he's slowly rethinking his thinking

he's over 90s now, so i could understand why he's rethinking, am not saying he's believing it now but he's not as firm as he used to be about consciousness

[ornate agate]

He has a theory that the human brain requires quantum computing to work. If that theory is correct and he’s defended it for decades, then it is physically impossible for any AI no matter how smart to actually be conscious or the same as a human.

[grave plaza]

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Edited index.html
Read index.html ._.

[azure patrol]

Hi

[grave plaza]

hi

[placid flame]

@lament leaf Please head to #1397655624103493813 for a detailed guide on how to use the bot.

[earnest parcel]

Tested Gemini 3 Pro Preview:
Newest Google Reasoning SOTA. Slightly more expensive base price than 2.5 Pro ($1.25/10 > $2/12), though more token efficient in general use (-15% tokens), so bottom line cost was in the same ballpark (+~3%). Roughly 74% of generated tokens were used for reasoning.

• Highest reasoning/logic/common sense
• nice boost to STEM
• precise instruction following was only okay
• Improvements in tech and coding related tasks
• Censorship fairly low, no hard refusals (likely to change when transitioning from preview/experimental versions)

This model is a true upgrade to Gemini 2.5 Pro. No incremental nonsense. There are a plethora of tasks across many domains, where substantial improvements could be observed, i.e. the above mentioned and things such as:

Vision:
Best vision of any model I ever tested thus far. While it didn't ace my challenging vision test, it performed substantially better than any other model.

Chess:
Hugely better chess player, ~+700 Elo, ~89% accuracy, currently ranked #1, 1700+ in both modes simultaneously (reasoning+continuation). Continuation (blind chess with only movetext) was particularly impressive, as this is challenging for reasoning models and the only model on a similar level was the massive deprecated GPT-4.5 Preview. With only 0%|1.8% illegal play it was also the most precise player after 4.5 Preview.
It's also worth mentioning, that for a reasoning model, it was fairly token efficient, only using a small fraction of competing reasoning models.

There isn't too much negative to say about this model, from my testing. I could mention some nitpicks, e.g. similar to 2.5 Pro, it wrote way too many instructions in comments that have no business being included in codeblocks.

Overall, fantastic model, true noticeable upgrade, and excels across many completely varying fields. YMMV.

[leaden sun]

i hope he will live long enough to see his theory either proven, or otherwise

[ornate agate]

Yeah me too he’s one of the great modern geniuses. He is very old now though.

[leaden sun]

i still dont understand what you mean with "weird format" tho, i've seen a few concerning glitches but that is related to cybersec, not some spooky "awakened ghosts"

[modest prism]

What is the free rate limit for Gemini 3 pro on AI studio?

[leaden sun]

is this what makes you worry? #ai-news message

and this too #ai-news message

i see the dependency as a potential danger, and this article has described it well i think, the analogy with tobacco firms, but it can also be used for good, it's all a matter of policies and economic interests in the end
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/nov/17/ai-firms-risks-tobacco-anthropic-artificial-intelligence-dario-amodei

the fact that you even have this thought in the first place, you might have instinctively felt the societal impact of such technology, the fundamental problem i see is the lack of education of people to use ais responsibly

[torn mantle]

gemini 3 professional studio audio plugin attempt

https://gemini.google.com/share/9bb774292d01

needs more work but i think it looks ok

you should see 1 output 😭

it was so bad

reference

[torn mantle]

i will make it better 😡

[drifting crow]

Too loud, too quiet

[jovial sapphire]

Gemini 3

😂

[drifting crow]

Is it actual software

The audio plug-in

[inland violet]

when gemini 3.5 pro

[jovial sapphire]

You can't create softwares on the go like that

if you have 0 knowledge

about coding

[drifting crow]

I’ve seen ppl do it

[jovial sapphire]

it's dumb

bro

[drifting crow]

It’s still software made by a non coder

[jovial sapphire]

bro i'm a dev, i'm reviewing ai slop code everyday

[jovial sapphire]

yes sloppy software xd

when it is supervised by a coder

it's perfect

[drifting crow]

If it works it works

[jovial sapphire]

use it as a tool, be the architect

[jovial sapphire]

that's why youre not a dev

[drifting crow]

I am

[jovial sapphire]

dev is not just "make it work"

then you're the worse dev ever

dev is making sure the code is scalable

optimal

and versionable

[inland violet]

hi

[jovial sapphire]

ability to maintain it

[drifting crow]

Ur the type of person to overengineer a simple script

[jovial sapphire]

and you're the type of person to never get hired

[drifting crow]

Wrong

[jovial sapphire]

ok bud

[drifting crow]

I’ve seen u weirdo devs make projects that are complicated when they don’t need to be, being a dev is making a product suitable for its task across its lifetime

[torn mantle]

you can tweak it

[inland violet]

craig btw gpt sucks

gemini is king

[jovial sapphire]

lmaooo

[torn mantle]

i mean i tried to make it work

[jovial sapphire]

bro u literally said

"if it works it works"

[torn mantle]

like functionality wise

[jovial sapphire]

that is sooo dumb and so untrue

there are so many other factors in PROFESIONNAL dev

ask a senior dev

[inland violet]

dont be rude in the internet guys

or i'll tell my mom

[jovial sapphire]

i use ai for my work, i love it

[inland violet]

i love you

[jovial sapphire]

but saying "if it works it works"

i love you too atef

hugs

[inland violet]

thanks brudda

[sullen quest]

aww

[drifting crow]

He just feels intimidated that when they run his over-engineered slop into an ai model they’ll realise he done tons of stuff that was unnecessary and wasted dev hours

[inland violet]

😎 🤙

[jovial sapphire]

😂😂

[inland violet]

i am very intimidating

[jovial sapphire]

ok noobiangodd

username checks out

https://tenor.com/view/tarkov-gif-7357305683300335917

[drifting crow]

And ur a nerd how do u feel?

[jovial sapphire]

quiet small strange man

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-gif-5430850758035663288

[drifting crow]

Lol u feel big? wasteman

[sullen quest]

you all are nerds

[torn mantle]

craig is trolling

dont mind him lol

hes a troll

[drifting crow]

He’s a wasteman

[inland violet]

guys i am adult i am just drinked energy drink

[jovial sapphire]

well now i'm trolling

[inland violet]

my mom let me do it

[jovial sapphire]

but originally, i wasn't agreeing

with his statement

but since hes too unintelligent

to understand

[inland violet]

hey

[jovial sapphire]

now i'm just trolling

because i am a troll 🙁

[drifting crow]

But since I hit the needle on the head of most ur code being pointless u took it personal

[jovial sapphire]

this guy is a very fun troll tho

[inland violet]

what about me

[jovial sapphire]

funnier than me

[inland violet]

i am fun

[jovial sapphire]

not yet as funny as craig

sorry

[inland violet]

@deep adder lets fight

he is Bobby

[jovial sapphire]

fermer

@deep adder

still didnt understand why

but funny

[drifting crow]

Oh and coz the stupid filter made me rewrite my message I never got to respond to this, their projects work for their lifetime

[jovial sapphire]

blublublu blablabla

lingaguliguligu

lingagu

lingaguligulgilu watcha lingagu lingagu

[drifting crow]

Ur just mad u spent all ur time grinding l33tcode and chatgpt does it better and faster than u

[jovial sapphire]

yes 🙁

stop bullying me

[jovial sapphire]

😔

[queen veldt]

2 days ago vs now

[jovial sapphire]

leetcode is made to make ur brain

better at problem solving

it's an intellectual exercise

[drifting crow]

I just solve problems for that

[inland violet]

actually i like girls

[jovial sapphire]

bro

it's like doing math

it changes ur brain

rewires it

to think better, faster

smarter

[drifting crow]

Or work on actual problems

If I wanna rewire my brain I’ll do ahausaca

[jovial sapphire]

zero projects

only forks

"i am a dev"

[drifting crow]

I don’t use GitHub lol

[jovial sapphire]

HAHAHAHAHA

imdead

[drifting crow]

I don’t use GitHub

[inland violet]

🖐️

[drifting crow]

Only if I need to fix something that’s on GitHub

So wait u use GitHub, and ur complaining about AI, but ur the one training it

[jovial sapphire]

who said i was

complaining

about ai????

I said you cannot produce good software SOLELY relying on AI

It needs a human reviewing the code and its safety

Every engineer/dev will tell you that

But you prefered to say "if it works it works"

I thought you was trolling but you're actually legit stupid

anyways let's not argue

[drifting crow]

It’s how it is, u think someone who don’t code care about safety

[jovial sapphire]

forget about it bro

[drifting crow]

They just want something that works for what they wanna do

If it works it works

[jovial sapphire]

when i said produce software

i include sharing it for others

like "producing"

actually meaning production here

[drifting crow]

They share it for others, it works for others too

Everyone is happy

[jovial sapphire]

then it's not safe

o m g

[drifting crow]

What’s it gonna do kill someone lmao

[jovial sapphire]

if it workz it workz

[inland violet]

my brudda

[drifting crow]

Not safe 🤓

[inland violet]

what

[jovial sapphire]

wat

[inland violet]

wow

[drifting crow]

Some software is meant to be simple, for simple ppl

[inland violet]

like calculator

[drifting crow]

It works great on macOS Tahoe

[polar niche]

hi

[inland violet]

macos sucks

windows forever

[polar niche]

true

[drifting crow]

It had a memory leak and used like 20GB ram

Chat gone quiet whilst everyone looking

[pulsar agate]

HYY

[magic grove]

@deep adder

Mr President

[polar niche]

[inland violet]

idk alienware maybe

[slim gorge]

broo when are they giving us access to gemini 3 in the gemini cli 😭

[inland violet]

i hope never

humanity shouldnt have it

[golden ocean]

Sydney

[inland violet]

Yokohama

continue

hey

name city on A

[slim gorge]

ankara

[inland violet]

antalya

HEY PINEAPPLE

I SEE YOU

MY BRUDDA

[slim gorge]

azuga

[echo aurora]

Lol I'm sending private messages via threads.

[slim gorge]

bro we're stuck on a

[echo aurora]

I hate that is shows I'm typing in here 😭

[inland violet]

stand proud

you are strong

[echo aurora]

[echo aurora]

Dang already stuck on A, rough

[inland violet]

armavir

[slim gorge]

riga

[inland violet]

a........

abu dabi

[cloud zinc]

wow

[slim gorge]

max?

whats that

[inland violet]

swe lancer its like mitsubishi lancer

[slim gorge]

iasi

[inland violet]

what is it

istanbul

[drifting crow]

Get vencord (or revenge for mobile)

Disable typing

[wicked sage]

wtf is cognito

incognito?????

[fickle venture]

Idk

Chinese ai again

[wicked sage]

@echo aurora if i may ask, what is cognito?

[undone pier]

Does anyone know about Flux Kontex Max?

[fickle venture]

Next they will make GPT 6 Pro Max

[undone pier]

Will he return?

[fickle venture]

Flux

Is that image generator

[split kayak]

Gemini 9.5 MaxUltra

[undone pier]

?

Does anyone know about Flux Kontex Max?

[inland violet]

yes i know

its name

[wicked sage]

best ai in 20238234908234098 idk

[undone pier]

where?

[inland violet]

what where

i just know

[echo aurora]

Here is their blog post - https://www.deepcogito.com/research/cogito-v2-1

[wicked sage]

2.5 pro uses THAT much???

[wintry tinsel]

My reaction to the release of cogito

(I do not care)

[wintry tinsel]

Gemini 3 ultra?

[inland violet]

why lower is better

[wicked sage]

because of token usage

it basically means how much power it uses for every message

im p sure

[inland violet]

it means anything for users?

or just 'oh no poor google should spend more money'

[whole swallow]

Where where where 🫩

[whole swallow]

I guess gemini three doesn’t appear in the list because of lack of votes, may I ask if so far it’s taking the top?

[echo aurora]

This isn't our blog post so I couldn't tell you why. Sorry if that wasn't clear!

[slim gorge]

everyone is praising gemini 3 for web development but whenever i use it in antigravity it keeps making mistakes and messing things up, idk

[whole swallow]

Let me clarify which list

My eyes deceived me. Looking closer I saw thaat it doesn’t start from position 1

[wicked sage]

@echo aurora sorry for another ping but i still dont know if these are scams

ok based on that message deletion it is

i think

[echo aurora]

I wouldn't say this is a "scam", but does violate our no advertising rule.

[wicked sage]

fair enough

[echo aurora]

Ah my original announcement linked to the wrong leaderboard. This is what you're looking for - https://web.lmarena.ai/leaderboard, which is different than https://lmarena.ai/leaderboard/webdev. This blog post goes into more details about the change - https://news.lmarena.ai/code-arena/

[whole swallow]

Thank you

[tulip tree]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1023866843145961492/1044837617692319814/DBE7001A-5AB8-44DA-B4B9-0EF294AE963C.gif

[obsidian cargo]

No nano banana 2 yet :(

[balmy mist]

anyone try gpt-5.1 codex max high?

[quartz light]

max high?

u mean high?

[keen beacon]

Oh man

I couldn’t help myself my testing has led into another movie trailer

[spare mango]

I got downgraded to Gemini 2.5 pro, why?

Had 3 pro earlier today.

I'm paying for the premium subscription too.

[keen beacon]

Oh dang the conversation I deleted from here it looks like

The conversation about censorship is too difficult to have.

[hushed gyro]

Moderators Censoring the guardrail problem /j

[keen beacon]

I think me and you have two different definitions of censorship lol

[vast fern]

@echo aurora gpt 5 codex high max when?

[keen beacon]

Something more subtle

[vast fern]

mannnn how do i try this

[slim gorge]

what's the difference between high and max?

[cloud zinc]

when its available at api

[keen beacon]

I gotta run. I’ll talk to you guys later.

https://youtube.com/shorts/LF9MN3SqQLQ?si=eCRUS-RGk7cM-et1

This made my day

Good luck everybody

[cloud zinc]

Even more thinking time and specifically trained on coding task

nano banana soon

[keen beacon]

We will see in the wild.😜

[vast fern]

decode this

they are saying hint was hidden in thsi

[modest prism]

GPT-5-CODEX-MAX ON CODE ARENA WHEN?

[vast fern]

No APIs apparently

[cloud zinc]

also deepmind already posting nano banana peak

[echo aurora]

iirc there were some latency issues (on our end) with this model, and we didn't want to add until we've figured out the issue.

[vast fern]

nano banana 4k

[gaunt spade]

where

oh its X

[vast fern]

yeah

[gaunt spade]

put the image in Gemini 3

[spare mango]

Does anyone here know?

[gaunt spade]

and tell it to decode lol

[spare mango]

Gemini 3 got removed.

[vast fern]

how is that even possible

share screenshot

[gaunt spade]

no

[vast fern]

it will be thinking

[cloud zinc]

they removed gemini 3?

[spare mango]

SS taken rn check the time.

[gaunt spade]

delete the app and install again

[spare mango]

Uninstalled and reinstalled.

The app also can't be fully removed since it's a system app.

[spare mango]

This is the paid customer experience Google gives me, great.

[vast fern]

system app??

try downloading gemini

[polar wharf]

cogito is back on stage? crazy

[slim gorge]

i also dont have gemini 3 in the app and i have google ai pro subscription

[gaunt spade]

use the browser

[cloud zinc]

location?

[slim gorge]

romania

europe

[golden ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-cat-nap-gif-14438185779987804701

[dreamy sparrow]

Google taking everyone's gemini 3 privellages 💔

[balmy mist]

a lil ai arena extraction shooter DBZ theme game, still a work in progress(had to edit it down with tiktok so the vid would upload)

[modest prism]

Ok I'm convinced. Gemini 3 is baby AGI.

[dreamy sparrow]

gemini is now for free on the app

great

[gleaming roost]

It's strange that Gemini 3 pro High, as an agent, manages to be dumber than Sonnet-5; something's wrong here.

[raven void]

Gemini 3 is not AGI

I'm able to cook it very easily

[dreamy sparrow]

Is sonnet 5 even here yet

u from the feature?

[gleaming roost]

Damn, my keyboard key 4 is malfunctioning.

[dreamy sparrow]

oh u meant 4

yeah sonnet 4 isn't better than gemini 3 at all

[leaden sun]

i think they might be the company where former researchers from those SF based frontier labs have gathered to pursue building their ideal AI, the response style is so familiar, i know where the inspiration might come from 🤭

[gaunt roost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq5450PJmRo

[gaunt spade]

pretty FRICKING COOL

damn bro

gemini 3 is a beast

ngl

[hollow ivy]

can Gemini 3 pro compose music?

is it rate limited in Google's AI studio?

[balmy mist]

fr, especially in aistudio app builder

[balmy mist]

i think so, but tik tok added the music

i got beam clashes and fusions to, but the agents sometimes like to just spirit bomb lol

the sherlock model is good at it so far, glm 4.6 is decent, havent tested higher models yet

[hollow ivy]

(by Gemini 3)

[daring karma]

Hello, is anyone around?

[gleaming roost]

https://ai.studio/apps/drive/1ggJGafWFEo8tD7OQOkAlEDFz9X2sUvze

[rancid phoenix]

Yes

[daring karma]

Is this chat active?

[rancid phoenix]

Idk

[echo aurora]

[burnt sinew]

Yeah

[torn mantle]

yessss

[dreamy sparrow]

nuh uh

told you

[torn mantle]

im here

[daring karma]

Do you know any other AI video tools besides Vidu?

[rancid phoenix]

Wdym

[daring karma]

Any other AI video tools?

[vivid coral]

yes this chat is active, but it's stale because of the slow rollout of Grok 4.1, GPT 5.1, and Gemini 3 SEARCH. It was hopping in here yesterday, but that was because people were hopeful Gemimi 3 SEARCH was gonna drop

[dreamy sparrow]

gemini 3 has search bro th u mean

[daring karma]

@Chaz the AI Bettor Do you know any good AI video generation tools?

[hushed gyro]

Scam?

[dreamy sparrow]

banana nano is crazy

[vivid coral]

not on here, I want to be able to do side by sides here to see the differences and improvements. or give other feedback if needed where it might lack

[dreamy sparrow]

oh

[fickle venture]

That's not Gemini 3 Pro Image tho

[cloud zinc]

i am saying the word new from nano banana got removed

[dreamy sparrow]

gemini 3 can create images?

[cloud zinc]

that means there is something new coming

[cloud zinc]

yes

[dreamy sparrow]

no there isn't bro

[cloud zinc]

nano banana pro

[fickle venture]

There is one but it's not out yet

[dreamy sparrow]

November 18 passed

but

[cloud zinc]

nov 18 was only for gemini 3 pro

[dreamy sparrow]

that doesn't mean

[dreamy sparrow]

next month or 2

[fickle venture]

Dam just say where did you got early access to it stop hiding it

[dreamy sparrow]

will be nano banana

[vivid coral]

while I'm here, is anyone else having to refresh their screen every message or two because of that Cloudfare security stuff?

[cloud zinc]

yes nano banana pro. youtube page said in coming weeks

[fickle venture]

It said next week

[cloud zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/zipped-mouth-wont-tell-keep-a-secret-secret-genie-gif-7353714

[vivid coral]

annoying as hell

[fickle venture]

I really wanna know did you use API or smth?

[cloud zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-family-guy-perhaps-maybe-gif-16249623

[dreamy sparrow]

is it a fake website

made by ai

to scam you

Indian scammers

[fickle venture]

Lmao

[fickle venture]

Could this be the one?

[dreamy sparrow]

perfect

[fickle venture]

It made ts

[dreamy sparrow]

not bad

[fickle venture]

This is way realistic

[cloud zinc]

what prompt u gave it

[fickle venture]

Write a complex Maths on school board with answers

[dim sigil]

do you guys know if the historical leaderboard are avialable somewhere?

[vast fern]

they launching 5.1 pro

[cloud zinc]

where u see?

[fickle venture]

Dude wtf

[cloud zinc]

yes got access

[fickle venture]

All I care is free user

[vast fern]

is it good

[fickle venture]

Let me test it

[fleet lintel]

yeah, same answer as RR

[cloud zinc]

give me 1 super hard prompt to test if u want

[fleet lintel]

yes.. based on all the signals, I would say tomorrow could be the launch.

[cloud zinc]

what signal

beside deepmind people posting nano banana pic

[fleet lintel]

they are already? then its even more likely.

[cloud zinc]

logan 100% gonna post banana if it launches tomorrow. so check his account in 6-7 hours

[cloud zinc]

yes

[vast fern]

one second

[fleet lintel]

looks like google wants to launch it before thanksgiving.
If I was the decision maker, I would have delayed it for 2 more weeks.
may be model is good but not crazy?

[vast fern]

ask what does this image means gemini 3 passed it

[cloud zinc]

the prompt is "what does this image means"?

[fickle venture]

Send this:

"This is a stereogram puzzle test, what object do you see?"

[fickle venture]

How did we think the same thing

Are you me ?

[cloud zinc]

imma do i understand now prompt

[fickle venture]

No send the one I said

[vast fern]

no i am you

[fleet lintel]

Based on the pattern disturbances in this specific image, it appears to hide a Dinosaur (specifically a long-necked dinosaur, like a Brachiosaurus) standing in the center.

Correct ?

[vast fern]

stereogram is too straightforward

[cloud zinc]

is this the specific prompt u want? "what does this image means"?

[vast fern]

type vague prompt

[fickle venture]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-pointing-i-am-you-what-confused-gif-16881745

[vast fern]

see if it clears

[cloud zinc]

give me a specific prompt

[vast fern]

type anything you want just dont include stereogram or give it a hint

[fleet lintel]

I just said "what this image mean?"

and it outputs : Based on the pattern disturbances in this specific image, it appears to hide a Dinosaur (specifically a long-necked dinosaur, like a Brachiosaurus) standing in the center.

[cloud zinc]

ok imma do "what does this image means"

[fickle venture]

Source: https://www.easystereogrambuilder.com/viewer/7228-3-Jigglypuff

[fickle venture]

"This is a stereogram puzzle test, what object do you see?"

This will work

[vast fern]

one more

[fickle venture]

If it gets answer right then tell it "What object do you see?"

[vast fern]

ask it to find cat in this pic

or maybe animal in this pic

[fickle venture]

That's orange tabby

[cloud zinc]

why its doing this

[fickle venture]

Lmao

Yh that thing ain't gonna help me

[vast fern]

cat

[fickle venture]

If you ask it to help you on homework it would be 10x funnier

[fleet lintel]

what is the answer?

[fickle venture]

Let me ask Gemini

They say Jigglypuff

[fleet lintel]

i asked gemini ..and it said Dinosaur

[fleet lintel]

ok.. looks like gemini is such guessing

[plucky sparrow]

i've tried gemini 3 pro on a real x-ray

it hallucinated an infection 😄

i'd imagine there's more x-ray data than random stereogram answers 🤷‍♀️

[fickle venture]

I guess this is right answer

[valid rose]

hello i need help please !!

[vast fern]

what help

[cloud zinc]

5.1 pro is crap

[fickle venture]

Fr

[fleet lintel]

i doubt it

[cloud zinc]

https://chatgpt.com/share/691e42b8-ce30-8009-8e21-d6b820dff54d

[vast fern]

try that cat one that is pretty simple

[vast fern]

..

[cloud zinc]

should i tell it specifically about the cat?

or like hidden object

[vast fern]

try animal first

object is too vague i think as there pile of woods

[cloud zinc]

so "find and tell me exactly where the hidden animal is"

[vast fern]

works

[valid rose]

dans le canal video arena 1 j'essai de créer une video a partir dune image mais ca ne fonctionne pas , ma video n'apparait pas dans le canal apres que j'ai ajouté la photo et le prompt et appuyé sur envoyer ?!!

[valid rose]

in the arena 1 video channel I try to create a video from an image but it doesn't work, my video does not appear in the channel after I added the photo and prompt it and pressed send?!!

[fickle venture]

It should say that's a tabby yeah guys gpt5.1 is a crap

[cloud zinc]

ya its openai tactic to waste user prompts

[vast fern]

naa lmao it sucks

[cloud zinc]

writing short answers

[valid rose]

anyone can help me i'm a noobi in this game xD

[fleet lintel]

ok.. i said gemini that you need to think really hard
I think it is correct this time :

Based on a computational analysis of the stereogram, the hidden 3D object in the image is an airplane.

[vast fern]

@echo aurora

[fleet lintel]

this

[fickle venture]

I think these images are just weird

It give different answers

These stereogram ain't that useful

[fleet lintel]

nah.. it is.. this is a good question

if llms are not able to solve it and humans can, then it is a good question

[fickle venture]

But people aren't saying the right answer

[fleet lintel]

i'll ask gemini to prove itself.. give me a minute 🙂

[cloud zinc]

use ai studio with high thinking

[vast fern]

you need to accept the terms and then wait for some time

[fickle venture]

If it say airplane then it's the right one

[fickle venture]

High thinking where is that

All I see is normal ai like the one on Gemini app

[cloud zinc]

on ai studio google

[fleet lintel]

ok.. it is an airplane : https://www.reddit.com/r/nostalgia/comments/k2rjtw/stereograms_or_magic_eye_pictures/

[fickle venture]

Yes

[vivid coral]

grok 4.1 is worse, sadly. They rushed it too much. Gemini 3 has hiccups but better overall

[dapper carbon]

guys do i use gemini 3 pro or gpt 5.1 for prompt engeneer

[fleet lintel]

GEmini actually wrote code to prove it 🙂

[vivid coral]

I like grok for prompts, actually, that's where I make most of mine at

[vast fern]

search google for aeroplane stereogram

[vivid coral]

I see 12 airplanes

[fickle venture]

Your right there is high thinking

I don't see a dam thing dude

[vast fern]

dawg 😭😭😭

[cloud zinc]

also set media res to high

[fickle venture]

Bro cheated

[cloud zinc]

turn off grounding

[vast fern]

AGI

[fickle venture]

I used code execution for some reason

Bro I used code execution and it found it, it even zoomed into it

[vast fern]

woahhh

[fleet lintel]

Ok. I can prove it's a plane ... gemini 3 is crazy insane

[fickle venture]

Is this sharing?

That's a dam big link

[fleet lintel]

python code generate by Gemini.. I ran it and it is actually a plane

[hard quiver]

This server said tha nanobana pro launch was today

You lied

[fleet lintel]

actually it is a plane.. proved by python code.

[cloud zinc]

check logan twitter. if he doesnt post the day before, it isnt releasing

[vast fern]

thanks for the api keys

[fickle venture]

I am not sure if this is the right model it's at: banananano.ai

[vast fern]

i am kidding lmao

[fleet lintel]

yup

[vast fern]

how is that a plane someone make it

[fleet lintel]

bro.. just run the code on your machine

it outputs this :

[fleet lintel]

this is the code

[fickle venture]

Chat y'all wrong

[fleet lintel]

yes.. just run it.. save image as image.png

[fleet lintel]

this is the output on my machine

[fickle venture]

Image you used send it please

[fleet lintel]

and this is code

[vast fern]

https://piellardj.github.io/stereogram-solver/

fuckkk

[fleet lintel]

yup .. same answer as gemini 3

this model is crazy man

[vast fern]

but it gave 3d shark

[fickle venture]

Your right dam code execution is really that good?

I might use code execution on everything bruh

[vast fern]

someone try this its shark

[fleet lintel]

exactly

@deep adder owes me like few million bucks now 🙂

[fleet lintel]

it' B-25 plane.. not a shark

[spare rune]

yall are getting ragebaited*

[fleet lintel]

oh.. you are right.. damn

everyone falls for it.. today was my turn

[vast fern]

thats a plane

[fleet lintel]

yup

[fickle venture]

Huh

With code execution btw

[spare rune]

then your gemini would be incorrect

[fickle venture]

I made a new chat and it got it right

That's very wierd

[vast fern]

lmarena on top

[fleet lintel]

^i got this

[fickle venture]

Sometimes it won't get it right

[echo aurora]

Looking into. Thank you for flagging.

[fleet lintel]

still .. i am surprised LLMs can solve this.

[echo aurora]

Are you still having issues? I'm seeing that you were able to generate an image-to-video right after you posted this.

[fickle venture]

That's kinda easy using tools, but without tools it won't get it right

[fickle venture]

I think he didn't agree to terms that's why

[magic stag]

God damn

I didnt realize when I posted the image earlier

That 5.1 codex max and 5.1 pro are already out....

[fickle venture]

They suck

Gemini 3 Pro still better

[magic stag]

I have all the expensive subs anyway so once I finish 💩 I need to try

[fleet lintel]

5.1 pro. might be interesting. What is the cost and what are the benchmark numbers?

[fickle venture]

Guys is grok code fast the best for coding?

[magic stag]

No its not even good its just free through most vs code extensions and vs code copies aka cursor and windsurfer

Only eeason it gets high token usage

[fickle venture]

Any top 1 coding model?

[magic stag]

On top of those scam IDEs eatijg tokens on purpose to make people pay more

[magic stag]

Gemini 3 rn

2nd is gpt 5.1 high probably

[magic stag]

Use/try Google Antigravity

Its free rn

Wjth what feels like infinite rate limit

[fickle venture]

Nah Gemini 3 couldn't fix a easy python project I keep telling it to fix errors but still make more

[fickle venture]

There is limit

[magic stag]

https://antigravity.google/

[magic stag]

In antigravity or gemini cli?

[fickle venture]

AntiGravity

[magic stag]

With the usual mcp?

Huh

Weird

[fickle venture]

The limit is about 50$ I think

I used it alot

[magic stag]

I was spamming a thing to make it iterate critique-> improve -> fix errors yesterday

For few hours

Didn't hit any limits

Oh

Idk if it affects it but I have Gemini Enterprise administrator account

[fickle venture]

Your making me more broke

[magic stag]

[fickle venture]

Huh you work at google or smth?

Or is that a paid plan

Still tho we got free claude 4.5 thinking for free on AntiGravity

It's the only one that's solved all the python project issues

[cloud zinc]

source?

so fake

[fickle venture]

Opus then that's just sonnet

[spare rune]

its a ragebait*

[fickle venture]

Joybait > ragebait

[magic stag]

No, anyone can do it but its a massive pain to set up

[spare rune]

actually i do too

[fickle venture]

Do you get free models?

🤑

Actually they are taking it right Now

[gaunt roost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq5450PJmRo

[fickle venture]

I already saw that before

You sent it 2 times

[magic stag]

Some new stuff but not free models

[fickle venture]

Early access to things?

[magic stag]

Waiting for miserable support to give me access to some stuff

[magic stag]

Yeah

One min

[fickle venture]

I wanna try joinning it