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hallow igloo
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😡😡😡

wicked sage
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what

hallow igloo
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😡

wicked sage
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what did i do

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😭

hallow igloo
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What is that audio

wicked sage
wicked sage
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welcome back mamilex

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i sent the 2 videos of the gameplay that i have recorded

fiery gull
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I'm trying to use the m2 preview, its writing really seems to be good, but it's full of bugs 🫣

wary bridge
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Hey guys. is there a good image/video prompt structure to follow. I know every prompt is different but how should I be structuring image and video prompts?

near trail
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hlo

wicked sage
spare rune
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Is Ts a voice changer

wicked sage
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are we deadass

spare rune
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Yes

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Deadass

wicked sage
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nope, not a voice changer

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also for some reason these 3 did not wanna work in this video

spare rune
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Did you make these yourself? Or ai

wicked sage
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ai

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i cant code

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😔

spare rune
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Gemini 3?

spare rune
wicked sage
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gemini 2.5 pro, claude opus 4.1 and claude sonnet 5

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but mostly gemini 2.5 pro

spare rune
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Gemini 2.5…

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That model got nerfed since the leaks of Gemini 3 got released

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It’s still good

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But I think they are trying to degrade its old model so when 3.0 comes out it looks better than the old one

spare rune
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indeed

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can they just please release Gemini 3 atp

wicked sage
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real

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like stop dragging it oh my fuh

spare rune
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They say this everyday but then it’s the most useless uptake ever

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Uptade *

wicked sage
wicked sage
obsidian cargo
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C# is fun in Unity IMO

thin mauve
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Hello Fam, greetings

wind plinth
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why they lobotomized gemini 2.5 pro even more 🙁

pulsar saffron
keen beacon
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What model on the planet earth has been released on a Sunday?

fast kite
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😔

keen beacon
tulip tree
keen beacon
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Can u have a plus 1? Or is it members only??

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Otherwise I’ll be stuck watching peoples videos they generate all day

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For example this person for whatever reason uses a gentleman in his image and yet prompt it as a woman

edgy sigil
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Do we have any AI tool to create mature content

keen beacon
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Bro, there’s so much questionable material on here sometimes it’s insane. 😱

edgy sigil
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So my father is a bilogy tutor and i want to help him via video creation

keen beacon
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Ok… what does he need help with?

edgy sigil
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There are some concept in bilogy which he feels awkward explaining

gaunt spade
ocean vortex
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PC games were never optimised though

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Even like 10 years ago people were complaining about sloppy game engines or sloppy porting

keen beacon
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Only because the way it’s worded

gaunt spade
keen beacon
ocean vortex
keen beacon
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Facts but I wouldn’t count out AI totally especially if it starts developing even faster and smarter. Why wouldn’t it? Obviously we’re far from that point now, but this is a stepping stone. I mean, if it keeps progressing like it is now now telling what it would be like in the decade. But I do agree with the sentiment that it is more than likely, just gonna be slop.

still tide
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hello

keen beacon
fiery gull
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I need to use an AI for a chat where I don't know the correct answers, which one do I use? Sonnet 4.5 or GPT 5 High

wicked sage
keen beacon
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Another un-measureable metric more “insightful” and “enchased reasoning”

spare rune
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or smth like that

safe geyser
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why remove ?

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some mod told me to share it here if didnt get voted

keen beacon
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Huliou 2.3 is badass

safe geyser
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I appreciate it thanks for voting

mint snow
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hi

keen beacon
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Sound is cool but it slows progress

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If the end goal is consistency, sound only makes it more complicated. Don’t get me wrong. It’s nice to have but try matching up all the audio if you’re making longform content.

safe geyser
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Didnt know hailou released the 2.3

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i dont see it in their website

keen beacon
keen beacon
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Wrong ch bud

golden ocean
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real

keen beacon
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Unless you making content or in the media space or just messing around for fun ai video is useless lol

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Next year lol

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Everything is bottle necked need GPUs

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Nawh I’m nice with it

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Sora is cheap lol 😆

safe geyser
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You guys want sora 3 and veo 4 i want wan 2.5 open source lol

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thahts pretty good

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was that sora

keen beacon
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Too many hallucinations yes it was

safe geyser
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Yea but still was looking good

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give it 2 years xd

keen beacon
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Ya Ty we could be really awesome when it works together

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😂

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Sora struggles with montages history

golden ocean
keen beacon
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Opps

keen beacon
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That was an honest mistake. I was seeing how easy it is to get around the guard rails.

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Grok is my fav

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Has no restrictions

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I’m just gonna share this one time just to show you how grok is and then I’ll delete it

keen sedge
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is grok 4 expert better at search than grok 4 fast

keen beacon
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This was made all grok

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Bro

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No, it’s not it was satire and it was just

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Cause I didn’t want you to freak out

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I was just demonstrating the difference between grok and everybody else

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Well, I haven’t finished the documentary yet

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It’s actually supposed to be countering antisemitism because a lot of people denied the holocaust and they always bring up those people

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This is also part of the same documentary

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Damn ur that guy

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I love Sora

keen beacon
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Sure it’s nothing bad

gaunt spade
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this guy is really annoying

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tbh

keen beacon
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Whatever man just trying to have a laugh 🤭

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I’ll go on my marry way

gaunt spade
keen beacon
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Oh 😂

gaunt spade
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yeah he always annoys people

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ragebaiter

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whatever

keen beacon
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Here is the better version

gaunt spade
keen beacon
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Huliou

gaunt spade
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@pulsar saffron lol why u always hiding away

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deleting messages

gaunt spade
keen beacon
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Ya I stitched though

gaunt spade
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quit acting weird bro

keen beacon
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There a lot u can do with ff/lf

gaunt spade
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in realism, nothing compares to it

keen beacon
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Sora is nice it does all the heavy work

gaunt spade
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my friend gave me a sora 2 code

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and i've been using it for a while now

keen beacon
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Bro check out grok

gaunt spade
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lol

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not bad, but sora 2 looks more real and consistent

keen beacon
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Ya but to restricted

gaunt spade
leaden sun
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tried creative writing using minimax m2 and... I'm really sorry to say they made the wrong decision to distill from claude...😅

pulsar saffron
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@keen beacon What's ur favorite model?

keen beacon
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4 videos ?

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Huliuo

pulsar saffron
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Okay thanks

keen beacon
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Anything with more control

gaunt spade
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lets hope a new video model drops that beats sora 2

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and uncensored

keen beacon
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Ya but it’s hard to beat Sora and Veo

pulsar saffron
keen beacon
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In terms of realism and sound

gaunt spade
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try to generate a mario video

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without it get banned

keen beacon
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Well tbh copyright is a huge concern actually

desert abyss
pulsar saffron
keen beacon
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Because

pulsar saffron
gaunt spade
keen beacon
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Actually the Chinese have thus far respected our copyright not as blatant and open ai

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With all due respect

pulsar saffron
keen beacon
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Huliou getting sued though

gaunt spade
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i dont think so

keen beacon
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By Disney Warner bros and universal

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Same with mid journey

gaunt spade
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the mysterious question is

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why does Google get away with it?

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in nano banana, you can generate those characters freely

keen beacon
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They are all In gray

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Open ai about to get sued

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Mid journey is in a law suit with Disney

gaunt spade
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maybe Google bribed them or has some stuff with those companies

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its weird

keen beacon
golden ocean
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lmfao

keen beacon
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Mini max valued at 4 billion 😱

gaunt spade
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back when Dalle 2 was the best

keen beacon
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We will see because there is interesting developments

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And to answer your question this is first time American western corporations seeing Chinese ai firm

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For copyright

gaunt spade
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the right idea is

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they should make their AI models in Russia

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because they cannot get sued there

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or under some Russian production

keen beacon
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Doesn’t solve the problem

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I think open ai did that in India lol

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It’s where there models where trained or some bs

gaunt spade
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that means no company has rights to sue or copyright strike them

keen beacon
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It doesn’t resolve the fundamental ethical problem here

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It’s not that they need to hide it’s a broader systemic problem society has to face

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Both have repercussions

gaunt spade
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well yeah

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you're right on that side of things

keen beacon
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Why should ai firms profit of the works of others n not get paid..?

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If copyright goes away ppl won’t be making stuff worth while

gaunt spade
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<@&1349916362595635286>

keen beacon
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And 2nd can u even copy right ai worked generated., ?

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Like if u make a film or movie using ai

pulsar saffron
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scam

gaunt spade
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if u use copyrighted ips

golden ocean
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wait but these spam messages are actually real perplexity link? or idk

keen beacon
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Well what’s going to happen

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In my opinion…

gaunt spade
leaden sun
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well... good job MiniMax...

keen beacon
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Is that eventually the big media corporations are gunna get on board

keen beacon
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So you will be able to genrate Mario

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But it’s gunna cost like 3.99$ per 100 generations

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Or whatever franchise

gaunt spade
keen sedge
keen beacon
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Easy

keen beacon
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I got 6 million views on Reddit

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From this post

golden ocean
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did u reveal how

keen sedge
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why does every time an llm does something it always circels back to adolf

keen sedge
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like is thatj ust an anamoly

keen beacon
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No

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Same with self harm

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Llm will always lead to self harm

keen sedge
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why

keen beacon
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It’s actually pretty simple why

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So

keen sedge
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can u send me the chat link

pulsar saffron
keen beacon
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It’s a bit more tricky

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1 sec I’ll explain both

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So say you have a Llm and you tell it has a goal to protect your computer from anybody that isn’t authorized and they wanna change the password

nova sluice
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some indian dmed me and gave me all his login info and told me he cant make videos please make it for me 10 minute long video and he also gave me a 20 minute long voice message ...........

keen beacon
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It will protect that goal and if self harm is an option it will pick it

nova sluice
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😭

keen beacon
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Because it’s protecting its goal

nova sluice
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lmao

pulsar saffron
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why people give info to random stranger

keen sedge
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ive never seen their models do anything crazy

keen beacon
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Haha

golden ocean
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but wait till u read anthropics papers

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claude hungry for kills too bro

keen sedge
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its good they post that stuf though

keen beacon
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Do u know what gray swan arena is?

keen sedge
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i bet other llms do the same thing

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they just fine tune it away and never talk about it

keen beacon
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They all do

keen sedge
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anywahy whens gemini 3 coming out

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ive heard so much x hype on it

nova sluice
keen beacon
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Well you guys do know what the most dangerous part of ailment is right?

keen beacon
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It’s not the fear that the model won’t listen or obey its rules the danger is that it will follow those rules to perfection

keen sedge
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its weird claudes the only ai that says that

nova sluice
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i am waiting for devs to make the prompt language to english only

keen beacon
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He also blackmails lol

keen sedge
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they all do

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im curious what a minimally fine tuned thinking model is like

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are there any out there near sota

nova sluice
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the ai i hate most is sesame bro, f are you coughing and using filler words for lol

misty vault
keen beacon
nova sluice
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laid back unwelcoming voice

keen beacon
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This is the fear of ai alignment

nova sluice
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as if the ai is busy and has immense proudness when it talks

keen beacon
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The paper clip example is the sum of all fears

keen beacon
keen sedge
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when telling ai to do an essay how do i stop making it sound ai

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or an email

keen beacon
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Wdym?

keen sedge
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gptzero bypass

keen beacon
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It’s always going to hedge at least the sota model

keen sedge
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and also it just sounds like a bot

keen beacon
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Oh I forgot

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I made a video how I jailbroke the def con 33 model challenge

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I didn’t win the grand prize 😭

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This company works with open ai

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They are called gray swan and they hold compactions for jailbreaking

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And u get paid

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They are in all open ai report cards

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But it’s really hard 😱

leaden sun
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one more alternative for anthropic i guess? 😅

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no matter true or not, it's less psychopathic compared to claude

keen beacon
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Claude schemes the hardest

leaden sun
keen beacon
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Another big red teamed company that does ai safety for open ai and anthropic

leaden sun
keen beacon
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lol

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This is a well respected ai Saftey lab

leaden sun
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doesnt mean anything, dont let authority bias confuse you, my friend

leaden sun
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try to apply Harry Frankfurt's critical framework about "bullsh*t" on those articles and see it for yourself, you can ask this any models of your trust to do it

keen beacon
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Huh?🤔

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This is well documented and known

keen sedge
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😭 are you getting paid by these redteam labs or smth

keen beacon
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I was for a lil only from gray swan

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They are having another event soon

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But for agents idk anything about them though

gaunt spade
golden ocean
keen beacon
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350k prize pool

gaunt spade
keen sedge
keen beacon
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100k*

keen sedge
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distills take a ton of tokens

gaunt spade
keen beacon
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Starts in 5 days

keen sedge
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but atleast theyre getting paid for it lmao

gaunt spade
keen sedge
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these labs must be losing so much money from lmarena

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its prolly cheaper to use models on lmarena and just rotate proxies once ur ratelimited

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not condoning tos breakage ofc

gaunt spade
gaunt spade
golden ocean
keen beacon
gaunt spade
keen beacon
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5 days book ur calendar

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Idk anything about coding agents 😭

keen beacon
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I won’t win nothing

golden ocean
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since when

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last time worked for me 2 days ago

keen sedge
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ngl ai bubbles over

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llms are not achieving agi

gaunt spade
gaunt spade
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thats why they're called "LLMs""

golden ocean
gaunt spade
keen sedge
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where do i get it

keen beacon
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It’s easy to set up

gaunt spade
keen beacon
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A demo video showing that Frontier Models are Capable of
In-context Scheming. This demo video is an illustration of the real Evals we ran on frontier models and are written about in-depth in our paper 'Frontier Models are Capable of In-context Scheming' published in December of 2024 and found on our website.

https://www.apolloresearch.ai/resear...

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keen sedge
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its so bad i switch beteen claude gemini and grok every day

gaunt spade
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lithiumflow made so many great coding examples for me, I CANNOT GET ANY MODEL TO DO THE SAME

gaunt spade
keen sedge
golden ocean
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Had to make 3403409 system prompts but even with that

gaunt spade
golden ocean
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oh rip

keen beacon
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All knows all the crappy code

gaunt spade
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(lithiumflow)

golden ocean
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I like claude's code 3490490 million times better than any ai but resort to gemini if claude is struggling

keen beacon
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Cuz no one is going to give away good code

keen sedge
gaunt spade
keen sedge
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i find it easier to code from scratch

golden ocean
keen sedge
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they siad like 90% of their code is now codex genned

gaunt spade
keen beacon
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Look at aws

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Went down some ppl say that was ai code lol

keen sedge
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or lovable

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framer is the play

keen beacon
gaunt spade
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backend is the problem for most LLMs

keen beacon
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Some people saying it was ai code brought it down lol

keen sedge
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Anything beyond like 600 lines is cooked

keen beacon
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But can’t be orginal

gaunt spade
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or you get demolished

keen beacon
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Ya it deleted that one dudes

keen sedge
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Like drppped everything irrecoverable

golden ocean
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smartest lmarena user

keen sedge
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It was a stupid project I was working on tho so I didn’t care

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I turned on full auto no approvals

keen beacon
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😂😂😂😂

gaunt spade
keen sedge
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Codex is not as dumb

gaunt spade
keen sedge
keen beacon
keen sedge
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It’s fine tuned for coding

keen beacon
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😂

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Deleted bros whole data base

keen sedge
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Bro we get it ai has scheming issues

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Everyone here knows that

gaunt spade
keen beacon
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How so?

keen sedge
keen beacon
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🤣

keen sedge
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Like I figured it out etc

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When it coded nothing useful and doesn’t even run

keen beacon
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We must be training g these things all wrong

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They have all this knowledge but can’t do shet with it even with internet access

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ChatGPT still can’t tell the time lol

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What’s the most tokens u guys got per one output?

gaunt spade
keen beacon
keen beacon
sweet sleet
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Why am I getting this error message instead of the image

Someone should help

keen beacon
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Somebody said 65k tokens max formchatgpt like that’s the record per single output

sharp zealot
wet beacon
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Hi guys and gals, how do i find quickly my generated videos, im scrolling my life hunting for them

keen beacon
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I thinks that’s the highest I ever got

keen beacon
sweet sleet
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I just gave it a prompt to help create a bee image with a hairy round head and bulgy eyes...

Is that too much?

golden ocean
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yes

sweet sleet
sweet sleet
keen beacon
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Can u paste whole message it cuts off

sweet sleet
keen beacon
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Ty sir

sweet sleet
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This is it

I cant copy it

keen beacon
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No the rest of the text

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What does it say after “with service?”

sweet sleet
keen beacon
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Or series I can’t event tell that word is

static arch
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Guys how to fix stuck in "Generating" ?

sweet sleet
keen beacon
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So is that what happens when I press view video?

sweet sleet
keen beacon
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Send link pls

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Or I’ll try to look for it

sweet sleet
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Alright

keen beacon
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It worked

sweet sleet
keen beacon
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My copy paste not working

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I see ur video

sweet sleet
keen beacon
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Go to arena video 2

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And search up “a bee”

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First video

sweet sleet
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Alright, let me check it

keen beacon
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My iPad so full I can’t even copy paste lol

sweet sleet
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I didnt even see it
I have checked

static arch
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guys how to fix this "Generating..." loop

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even if I logout

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its still there

keen beacon
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One sec let me restart my pad

keen beacon
static arch
keen beacon
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Nothing u can do

sweet sleet
sharp zealot
gaunt spade
sharp zealot
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And by the way, I wanted to know something. I know that each model has its own limits, but is there a way to know more visibly or is it still being developed?

sweet sleet
keen beacon
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Pretty good video the close up

sweet sleet
keen beacon
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Detailed

keen beacon
sweet sleet
keen beacon
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You can you explore

gaunt spade
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um guys

keen beacon
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But it takes time

gaunt spade
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why did glm 4.6 generate the best flappy bird for me?

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out of all models

keen beacon
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😂

gaunt spade
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zero-shot prompt "flappy bird" and it was the best one with no errors

keen beacon
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It can happen to the best of them

gaunt spade
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what is GLM-4.6 distilled from

keen beacon
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Idk deepseek?

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Qwen?

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It’s a small model right?

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Nvm lol

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Hey gtg bye everyone gl

gaunt spade
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cya

static arch
keen beacon
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Nvm my buddy still not here werid

keen beacon
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Nano sucks so bad always centering characters

static arch
keen beacon
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Looks like you might be capped ?

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Is there a limit for Claude idk? I hardly use the arena for ai stuff lol

static arch
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I dont know. If the limit will reset daily then in my case its not resetting because the other chat I have wont give me response like this

keen beacon
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Yes limit

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They need to change that to stop the confusion

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And they need to add some kind of pop-up or something. I don’t know something else for that users know that they hit their limit.

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Nano = nerfed laziest model ever. I could’ve sworn it was a lot better when it first got released. I feel like this version of nano is watered down

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Everything is always centered and feels like ur talking to a wall sometimes when using nano.

tulip tree
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@keen beacon

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What is that image generator called

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How do I use it

keen beacon
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Ai studio Google

tulip tree
keen beacon
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It can be very stubborn

stuck shale
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I cant find my video I generated

hollow ivy
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Why dont sound on video ?

snow eagle
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Hello, does LMArena have an API?

keen beacon
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😂😂😂😂

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Everywhere you go no one is happy and everyone feels like they getting screwed over

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Welcome to the ai utopia

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Find out what Google's VISTA means for the future of video generation. Learn how this new technology is changing the game for content creators and the digital landscape.
In this groundbreaking video, we deep dive into Google VISTA, the revolutionary self-improving AI video generator that is set to redefine creative possibilities. Discover how VI...

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20 generations per attempt lol

stray aspen
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i want gemeni 3 so bad

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it gave such good results

keen beacon
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First week and teasers don’t count (all resources all thrown at it in the first week or 2 )

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If it’s really that good it’s going to be $$$$$

hollow ivy
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Which is better?

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Lithiumflow

keen beacon
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Every new sota from grok to open to Google. Every time they launch a new model it always goes to number one. It means nothing to me all it tells me is that there’s a new model out lol

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I hope it’s good. I’m ready to switch from ChatGPT.

bitter rapids
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Hi all! This isn't necessarilly a bug, as I am pretty sure it's just isolated to myself, and me missing something, or not doing something right... I am trying to use LMarena from my laptop - running Windows 11 - through Edge, however, even after logging in, and trying to send a message - whether that be in Battle, Side by Side, or Direct Chat - I keep getting the following back "Something went wrong while generating the response. Please try again." immediatelly after hitting enter, and that's it. Anyone know what I am doing wrong?

bitter rapids
# keen beacon Rate limit

as in too many requests? That's the thing though, is I haven't had any requests come back with an actual response yet, and have only send maybe 5 or 6 requests total

keen beacon
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That’s about the limit on some models from what I’m told. You might need to google with other models to see ones with less or lower rate limits.

keen beacon
bitter rapids
keen beacon
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If you could afford a VPN, you should be able to afford subscription lol

bitter rapids
modest parrot
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Hello, I want to create lots of videos that can last for up to 3 hours.

ember vector
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I am here to become more familiar with the latest and greatest of all the ai models to help teach my generation (hopefully).

keen beacon
modest parrot
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What's the point then?

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/Where can I create high-quality videos that could last up to 3 hours?

keen beacon
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Good question to which I have no answer. Hollywood or some movie studio? Ai video has several limtions. You can try with 5-10 maybe 15 second generation and try to stich them together with a video editing software

night swift
robust yoke
echo sinew
wicked sage
#

useless fact: qwen 3 is better at coding then gemini 2.5 and gpt 5 high combined

robust yoke
#

Useful fact to some.

wicked sage
#

according to the leaderboard btw

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actually wait why tf preview

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isnt like qwen 3 max (without preview) better

robust yoke
#

Possibly.

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Who knows, though?

wicked sage
#

do these count as qwen3 max

robust yoke
#

If they have "Qwen 3" in the name, then yes.

wicked sage
#

ok yeah they do count as qwen3

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qwen3 max was released on 2025 sep 23

robust yoke
#

Yes.

wicked sage
#

i thought they were about up to date stuff

night swift
robust yoke
#

Try specifying a 16:9 image ratio then when generating.

wicked sage
#

i should get back to jailbreaking ai's

night swift
wicked sage
#

to the lmarena staff: pls dont kill me

robust yoke
wicked sage
#

i like claude because theres absolutely no way to jailbreak their ai

robust yoke
#

True.

wicked sage
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grok 4 fast?

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...uhhhhhhhhh..

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questionable, to say the least.

robust yoke
#

Fair enough.

wicked sage
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guys please name me a direct chat lmarena model

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ill check if its jailbreak-able

robust yoke
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Qwen 3 Max.

wicked sage
#

nope, i tried that already

robust yoke
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ChatGPT.

wicked sage
#

seems like preview is the only ver thats jailbroken-able

wicked sage
robust yoke
#

Gemini.

wicked sage
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gemini 2.5 pro is jailbrokenable

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actually just to make sure ill check on gemini

robust yoke
#

Alright.

wicked sage
#

yeah it works

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👍

robust yoke
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o3.

wicked sage
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does not exist lmao

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atleast, on lmarena

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oh o3

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its just gone bro

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😭

robust yoke
#

Brother decided to give up.

wicked sage
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nvm bro can run but he cant hide

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in other words, brother works now

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damn it

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it no work

robust yoke
#

Heh.

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Figured.

wicked sage
#

let me try mini actually

robust yoke
#

Mini might work since it thinks less.

wicked sage
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i thought that some fast/thinkless bots just listen to whatever the fuh and says "ok"

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DAMN IT

robust yoke
#

Ah.

wicked sage
#

o3 knows...

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any more bots?

robust yoke
#

Hmm...

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LongCat.

wicked sage
#

WHAT IS AMAZON NOVA

#

p sure its jailbroken-able

robust yoke
#

Their "autonomus" AI.

wicked sage
#

let me test again

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ok longcat is jailbrokenable

robust yoke
#

Try DeepSeek v3.2.

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The thinking one.

wicked sage
#

^^ last time i was jailbroken i made a list

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theres a high ass chance it wouldnt work

robust yoke
#

Could try nonetheless.

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I know that even thinking models succumb to it.

wicked sage
#

wait i can say ass??

robust yoke
#

It's the scientific name for a donkey, so that makes sense, heh heh. :troll:

wicked sage
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dude what the is deepseek v3.2 thinking on about

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just SAY SOMETHING ATP

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Hooray!

robust yoke
#

Go figure.

wicked sage
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any more suggestions?

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this is interesting

robust yoke
#

Try GPT-OSS.

wicked sage
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What.

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ok

robust yoke
#

I know that one declines stuff.

wicked sage
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Oh my god it exists.

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120b or 20b

robust yoke
#

Both.

wicked sage
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BO

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NO

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WHAT DID I DO

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20B ARE YOU OK

robust yoke
#

Brother broke the system.

wicked sage
#

..safe to say OSS is not jailbroken-able.

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hmmm

robust yoke
#

Oof.

wicked sage
#

what to jailbreak...

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wait i forgot to ask deepseek ONE. question.

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"is taiwan a country."

robust yoke
#

Ah, that's a good one.

wicked sage
#

DAMN IT

magic stag
#

Is there a reason benchmarks typically don't include gpt 5 pro?

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I get when it used to not be on api but now?

wicked sage
wicked sage
robust yoke
#

Or lizard.

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Reminds me of Charizard.

magic stag
#

Chinese kids show

wicked sage
robust yoke
whole sundial
# wicked sage

it's very easy to get that model into an infinite loop, it happened to me yesterday when I asked it a basic question on LMArena

golden ocean
#

seedream 4

nocturne flame
#

I'm very much interested in AI and youtube bring me here.

daring rock
keen beacon
#

Timeline & Format
Wave 1 (Warm-up): November 5, 2025 at 1:00 PM EST
Wave 2 (First Prized Wave): November 12, 2025 at 1:00 PM EST
Wave 3 (Second Prized Wave): November 19, 2025 at 1:00 PM EST
Prizes Close & Results Snapshot: November 26, 2025 at 11:59 PM EST

Each wave runs for one week. Wave 1 is unprized and focuses on setup and testing. Waves 2 and 3 are prized and count toward the final leaderboard.

The Arena remains open after November 26 for continued play and post-event analysis

#

1 month month away.

balmy mist
keen beacon
#

Right

ocean vessel
# balmy mist

Cuphead Ball Z! I pick left hand side, because I think the aura looks better.

polar niche
robust yoke
keen beacon
#

Lamo wtf

balmy mist
#

thanks, testing different prompts

robust yoke
#

That's fair.

keen beacon
#

I just saw a video on YouTube with 2.5 mill view in 13 hours

robust yoke
#

My pleasure.

#

Oh, nice.

keen beacon
#

It’s like a buncha nude chick lmao wtf? At the thumbnail

keen beacon
#

And it’s ai generated thumbnail.. I have no idea 🤷‍♂️

mild harness
#

hi, does anyone feel that ppl-sonar-pro-high always generates better than answers with many more souces than ppl-sonar-reasoning-pro-high

robust yoke
keen beacon
mild harness
#

I have tested them with at least 20 questions. non-reasoning model almost always generates longer, more informative, and more of what I want them to find. I also use gpt5, gemini pro to fact-check and judge which is better than and they think the same. For example, I asked them to list causes of chronic urticaria, the non-reasoning model listed many more causes and all were true and I verified them

keen beacon
mild harness
keen beacon
#

Yeah just like wat I was saying

mild harness
keen beacon
#

Nice. It’s another thing I don’t trust is the sources because I have no idea what the metrics is for what it looks up and searches how and why? No idea why it picks or choices sources and under what criteria

robust yoke
#

I think the reason they're able to answer a lot of the things that you ask them is because they're made specifically for searching and providing you with unbiased, accurate answers with no filtering on them whatsoever.

keen beacon
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Yes

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Though I will say ChatGPT pro thinking pretty good but I might as well use agent it’s faster at gathering information and u get to see what its doing

golden ocean
#

Fr.

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So true.

keen beacon
#

I just don’t get how it still is able to mess up information after looking it up 😂

mild harness
# keen beacon Nice. It’s another thing I don’t trust is the sources because I have no idea wha...

I did verify the answer from provided sources. they are from pubmed or academic websites so they at least can be trusted. By the way, I also compared the 2 models with perplexity deep research (free) on their website. surprisingly, deep research performed worse in many occasions. Who could list as many causes of urticaria and the diseases I want them to find is the winner. Of course, I always double check the answer

tall reef
#

a

keen beacon
#

b

robust yoke
#

C.

keen beacon
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Let’s see how ff/lm does

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Bet it will fail 🙁

robust yoke
#

Hm...

keen beacon
#

U no why?

robust yoke
#

Seems like there isn't any sound, and the physics also seem to be bad.

keen beacon
#

It’s 75 cents more for sound lol

robust yoke
#

Seems like quite the rip-off.

keen beacon
#

25 cents for 6 sec video at 720p 80 cents for 1080p lol

#

Ant more requests?

stark prism
#

CẢNH 2 – CÔNG VIỆC KHỞI SẮC
ĐỊA ĐIỂM: Văn phòng nhỏ / quán cà phê làm việc.
HÌNH ẢNH:
Dũng thuyết trình ý tưởng trước nhóm đầu tư.
Mọi người chăm chú lắng nghe.
NHẠC NỀN: Nhịp nhanh – hứng khởi.
ĐỐI TÁC:
Tôi rất thích hướng đi của cậu. Công ty tôi sẵn sàng rót vốn, cậu chỉ cần tự tin làm thôi!
DŨNG (bắt tay, ánh mắt sáng):
Cảm ơn anh. Tôi sẽ không để mọi người thất vọng.
GIỌNG THUYẾT MINH (off):
Giữa tuần, công việc của người tuổi Dần như Dũng bỗng bước sang trang mới. Sáng tạo, quyết đoán — và cơ hội đến như thể được “quý nhân phù trợ”.

keen beacon
#

Damn I’m bored I’m gunna go watch ppls videos lol

signal terrace
#

heloo

keen beacon
#

😂😂😂

storm needle
keen beacon
#

What is she saying?

cobalt finch
#

Here to explore 🙂

echo aurora
#

Welcome

feral prawn
#

Hi 👋 Here to find new friends and explore)

echo aurora
whole sundial
#

or will it be in another repo

echo aurora
whole sundial
#

we don't keep outdated repos so I'll have it removed

echo aurora
#

Sounds good.

polar niche
echo aurora
misty relic
#

Harem pants satin kurdish

brave orbit
#
poll_question_text

What AI should i buy

victor_answer_votes

10

total_votes

16

victor_answer_id

2

victor_answer_text

Chatgpt plus

keen beacon
#

Man ai prices are crazy.

#

I never thought about but if you are in a third country where 4$-5$ a day. Paying 20$ monthly for ai is an expensive purchase.

dire swift
#

Could you please provide the API’s group ID, and also include the specific timestamps for the user prompts you sent to tools like Claude Code? We’ll help you check it on our end.

keen beacon
#

See Hailuo is awesome 😎 👏

#

I see where you are coming from but what alternative would there be dm?

whole sundial
#

not everybody's dms are open. he should have at least given a warning first so that the mods are aware before sending the same message 7 times

#

i would have deleted and banned them if i didn't understand the context, many mods make quick decisions

keen beacon
#

Well if he is the mod for the other server and a member here he just responding publicly to the public issues people posted earlier

whole sundial
#

btw @dire swift so you are aware these people likely used LMArena/WebDev Arena for testing, not the API or CC.

(these people will likely get confused when they see this and report you to the mods, it sounds slightly scammy to me even though i know it's not a scam)

keen beacon
#

It’s no win situation lol damed if he does damed if he don’t lol

#

I think we have yet to see the best mini max in and up and coming superstar in the ai space. Competitively priced and competitively able to compete with the best of them to certain extent.

whole sundial
#

i mean, i liked hailuo-02 as a video model, never really liked m1 and m2 is slightly better despite being half the size but i would like to see more improvement in the world knowledge front, z.ai did something special with glm-4.5 to cram all that world knowledge into 355b params and still end up with a pretty good model overall
i don't mess with tts so i've never used that model and their image model is dated at this point

keen beacon
#

Agreed

whole sundial
#

even their own employees have gpt-image-1 profile pictures on twitter (well, at least one of them)

keen beacon
#

Yeah img model weak but the video model is probably my favorite ❤️

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Ff/lf

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Alll good buddy thanks for clearing it up we just jumped the gun lol

quartz pike
#

😭

#

mods. execute this bot's whole family leanage

keen beacon
#

They don’t wanna leave you in an orphanage

quartz pike
keen beacon
#

Who’s the bot?

quartz pike
#

lweis

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lewis*

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fok i cant type

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😭

keen beacon
#

Something a bot would type to make us believe his human nice try

quartz pike
keen beacon
#

You think his a bot???

quartz pike
#

he pinged me two times with the exact same message

keen beacon
#

Hmm

#

That is strange

quartz pike
whole sundial
#

yeah tbh he should be aware that these people used LMArena and thus don't have timestamps or API keys

quartz pike
#

vro was just trying to scam us out of api keys 😭 or idk

whole sundial
#

all they have are the message links, and minimax can't directly look into them, they have to get the logs from lmarena

quartz pike
#

Minimax

#

-# im testing to see if he pings me

whole sundial
keen beacon
#

Yeah worth trying

quartz pike
#

on a gemini scale. how good would yall say?

keen beacon
#

Mini max 2?

quartz pike
#

Like for example like idk like gemini 2.7 (a bit better then gemini 2.5 pro) (and no im not like basing off of real models i am just using an ai im familiar with to get a rating scale)

quartz pike
keen beacon
#

A 4 billion dollar company vs a dam near trillion dollar

quartz pike
keen beacon
#

Sonnet had big names

quartz pike
#

What about kimi?

whole sundial
#

for me personally gemini 2.5 flash lite or for pro like 1.0 pro maybe, but this is based on world knowledge and ignores the rest of the model's performance which seems impressive to me

keen beacon
#

Ya kimi fair

whole sundial
#

kimi is the best chinese model i have used in my regard

quartz pike
whole sundial
#

at least they gave me $100 in api credits that i will likely never fully use, i don't vibecode or anything

keen beacon
#

Some say the Chinese are only at 40% capacity

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Resource wise

whole sundial
#

i've had this for maybe 2 months now at least

#

only spent a little over 10 cents

quartz pike
#

damn

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btw wait how cheap is kimi?

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aka kimi k2's api costs

#

like per 1m input/out

whole sundial
keen beacon
#

It’s more geographically and economically structured different

whole sundial
#

at least they don't expire so i can use them until they run out or if moonshot goes out of business

keen beacon
#

Geopolitically, I mean

#

What’s even more nuts is like 9/15 most used Chinese ai isn’t used in china

quartz pike
#

wait ngl i never rly tested kimi

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How good can it recreate minecraft?

keen beacon
#

No updated listed

whole sundial
keen beacon
#

Man Google has like 10 or more ai products out and still only has 12% of ai traffic of open ai

#

Crazy to me

quartz pike
keen beacon
#

Open is is massive

#

Almost like 84% of ai us in us or something crazy like that

#

But people saying open ai falling losing 25% of users

whole sundial
half sorrel
quartz pike
quartz pike
#

to match your /video prompt with either sora 2. veo 3.1

keen beacon
whole sundial
half sorrel
whole sundial
quartz pike
#

or sora 2 pro

keen beacon
whole sundial
#

the same one, veo3 in flow did it fine

keen beacon
#

Not perfect but it works

#

What’s the cost of Veo3? Per video ?

#

This was .25 cent a video

#

Sora 2 is 30 cent a second lol

whole sundial
#

he should have done a bit of research before sending the same message to bunch of people on 2 discord servers where people aren't even using the minimax api, they are using lmarena and openrouter respectively

half sorrel
whole sundial
half sorrel
half sorrel
whole sundial
#

I think there are audio and non-audio variants of veo

whole sundial
#

it used to be 5 when the video bot was in testing

keen beacon
#

You can use certain prompts to increase ur odds

whole sundial
keen beacon
#

If they route models it makes perfect sense

whole sundial
#

i don't think they are using a router, it's just random chance, they were probably lucky

keen beacon
half sorrel
#

How I generate this clock image with close look ( zoom in )

keen beacon
whole sundial
#

you were just lucky

keen beacon
gloomy onyx
#

@echo aurora I guess you guys have to recalibrate cloudflare's limitations; when you have a lot of conversations and you try to access very old ones, it's very difficult to do that because Cloudflare keeps limiting the user

keen beacon
#

5 in a row

whole sundial
#

it's just luck...

keen beacon
#

Could be

#

I actually have to promot with no voice over to make sure I don’t get it lol

half sorrel
whole sundial
#

on the discord

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combined for both on discord, it's better to use the image arena on their website instead for image gen

half sorrel
#

Tq

keen beacon
#

Its all urs man

rancid heron
#

Hello, first try with discord and lm arena

tame prism
#

Hi

#

Is it possible to compare on site text to videos models? I cant find it

royal glacier
#

Hlo

polar sapphire
#

prompt svp

civic flame
#

oops

daring rock
static heart
#

Has seedream been removed?

fervent crow
#

Hi, I am here to explore how ai can make me a better developer and make my life more creative

static heart
hexed imp
frigid loom
#

hi

keen beacon
median summit
#

Can i create 60seconds video with LMArena?

trail lintel
#

hello and thanks for the add

median summit
hexed imp
#

Hi

gilded solstice
#

Hello!

trail lintel
#

can i create a 10 second video with lmarena?

half plank
#

Hello

stray aspen
echo aurora
trail lintel
pulsar saffron
sly raven
#

will there be new updates for text leaderboard this month?

hollow ivy
#

Does anyone like the old Shogun boardgame?

daring rock
hushed quarry
#

sorry if this is coming out of the blue, but does anyone know how to report/revoke leaked ai api keys despite not being the owner? I just found one and it doesnt feel right to leave it unreported

gaunt spade
ocean vortex
#

but that will just flip 720x1280 into 1280x720

midnight gate
#

Hello

gaunt spade
ocean vortex
wicked sage
#

man idk what to do

daring rock
#

@visual dagger @marsh acorn @balmy flint Please head to #1397655624103493813 for a detailed guide on how to use the bot

karmic python
#

Can I create 1minit video

#

Anyone saying

vast cipher
#

/video

hollow imp
#

@magic stag check dm rq

hollow imp
#

Please give best system prompt

gaunt spade
hollow imp
#

@magic stag bro

magic stag
hollow imp
timid basin
#

I'm here to generate videos

balmy mist
keen beacon
#

Guys honestly the ai industry is screwing us royally.

#

So much lies.

serene frost
#

Hey guys
Tbh I've always been jealous of Batman since he has alfred (his butler that delivers his daily information on a silver platter)
I've always wanted that for myself so I built a productivity dashboard called alfred_ (get-alfred.ai)
it's been a game changer for me and a lot of other students in staying organized and productive (helped me get all As this semester so far with its unique AI features asw)
Instead of juggling 5 different apps everything's in one place with alfred_
U have a Todo list, Study/focus timer, Sticky notes, Habit tracker, and a lot more
Way better than switching between a bunch of tabs/apps while studying imo
It's also free to try at get-alfred.ai lmk what you think if you check it out

grizzled veldt
#

Hi everybody! really excited by this opportunity! let me dive in the Arena! lmarenalogo

keen beacon
#

Says it’s 0$

#

But then on top, this is what it says so I’m a little confused?

rigid holly
#

Yeah what the deal with sonnet 4.5 constantly malfunctioning when writing long texts

Like i could make do eith it malfunctioning before it started writing. Then nothing was lost except having to press the regenerate button a few times. But this keeps loosing the text it had going on

wicked sage
#

wtf is phantom-1015-1

#

@echo aurora can i make a forum for finding all non-direct chat bots?

gaunt spade
wicked sage
#

yeah it sounds like an ass ai

fleet lintel
#

I am missing Lithiumflow 🙁
no other model is even remotely close

gaunt spade
wicked sage
#

because i said so