general

[fleet lintel]

this was a good prompt

[gaunt spade]

it was written by claude 4.5 sonnet lol

[pulsar saffron]

GUYS I GOT GREAT NEWS
GEMINI 3 WILL BE RELEASED THIS YEAR

[fleet lintel]

IMO, in coding, claude 4.5 sonnet is probably the best released model right now

[gaunt spade]

damn thats surprising

i thought its gonna release with GTA 6

[pulsar saffron]

fr i have done research like 72 hours to find out

[sullen quest]

We got silksong before gta 6

[fleet lintel]

dont remind me of silksong.. too much hype but it didn't really like it 🙁

[gaunt spade]

whats silksong

[fleet lintel]

not sure if you are trolling.. if you are not, we know that gemini 3 is releasing. But now sure when... my theory is Nov Ist week

[stray aspen]

game

[gaunt spade]

well he's obviously trolling

[pulsar saffron]

it's a joke obviously

[stray aspen]

only expect trolling when you talk to craig lol

how do you get the arena champion role

[misty vault]

lmfao

[stray aspen]

i had it until one of the mods banned me for no reason

[sullen quest]

Fill out a form

[misty vault]

Same

[gaunt spade]

me

[pulsar saffron]

OMG YAY!

[gaunt spade]

@fleet lintel claude 4.5 sonnet thinking 32k looks HORRIBLE, Lithiumflow is way ahead these models

also it has no assets

[fleet lintel]

huge diff

[full elm]

A cinematic rural scene showing a golden lion standing in a wide green field during sunrise. The camera slowly pans across the open field with tall grass swaying in the wind. A farmer wearing a traditional outfit cautiously approaches the lion with a rope, trying to catch it. The lion growls softly but doesn’t attack, creating a tense and dramatic moment. Realistic lighting, 4K quality, natural camera motion, ultra-detailed environment, cinematic color grading, dust particles floating in sunlight, realistic animal and human movements.

[barren prairie]

DeepSeek r2, V4 and GLM5.0 too 🙂😂

[night swift]

Hi guys, I'm strugling with prompting gemini and qwen. I want to replace the background of photo A with the background of photo B, BUT I don't want a simple green screen kind of swap, I want the the camera angle and lighting to be adapted so that it matches the foreground of photo A.

chatgpt understand it but has some limitations like no 16:9 and darker tones. I can't get gemini and qwen to do it, they just don't adapt the background and sometime they adapt the foreground.

[gaunt spade]

sora 2 discord

what

craig why do your sentences never make sense

lol

[sullen quest]

Sorryt its just too complicated for ai to do rn

[gaunt spade]

where u got that

[stray aspen]

why are you doing this

[gaunt spade]

for fun?

i also did 30 videos

[brave cloak]

30 videos of what

[gaunt spade]

gimme a prompt imma do sora 2 for u

[gaunt spade]

sora 2 videos

[night swift]

How come chatgpt can do it

[sullen quest]

Banana was designed to be photoshop

[gaunt spade]

u just reply with the most stupid thing ever lol

[brave cloak]

try to prompt dota 2 gameplay, where a player is raging and calling teammates noobs and feeders in ingame voice chat

[misty vault]

I love sydney

[gaunt spade]

alr

i can prompt 3 videos at once

u want more?

[brave cloak]

prompt all 3 with it and pick the best generation

[gaunt spade]

aalr

imma do the same prompt

3 times

here minecraft gameplay, remember i typed "just moving around" thats why nothing interesting happens

[gaunt spade]

lol, here are the 2 generations, the 3rd one seemed a bit off

[brave cloak]

game looks completely broken, but voices and whining is spot on 😅

[gaunt spade]

yeah cuz dota 2 has alot of movements

imma try some mario 64 gameplay

[unreal hatch]

Sora 2 Pro?

[wicked sage]

can i kill qwen atp

btw guys is this good

[gaunt spade]

no its the free sora 2

[wicked sage]

i think its very good

[unreal hatch]

ain`t no way bro 🤯

that look so real

[gaunt spade]

which AI made this

[wicked sage]

opus 4.1

[gaunt spade]

damn it looks good

[wicked sage]

I KNOW BRO

[unreal hatch]

Gemini 3 Pro

[gaunt spade]

u made it on websim.com

[wicked sage]

❌

lmarena.ai

bro websim doesnt even have opus 4.1

only sonnet 4.5

[gaunt spade]

how did it get the assets?

the icons

[wicked sage]

it used https://win98icons.alexmeub.com/

[gaunt spade]

hmm interesting

i wonder how good lithiumflow would perform on it

[verbal nimbus]

That's pretty good. What model?

Oh 4.1

[wicked sage]

actually now that i think about it

opus 4.1 with a side of sonnet 4.5

sorry

[wicked sage]

although i hate it when it does this

THATS EVEN WORSE BRO

[gleaming roost]

lol

[verbal nimbus]

Oof

[gaunt spade]

idk why they have this error so frequent, unlike other models

[wicked sage]

DUDE

IM GONNA

SCREAM

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[primal orbit]

you have broken lmarena dude

[wicked sage]

WDYM I HAVE

WHAT

nope

its only for claude

[gaunt spade]

claude models are heavily used, thats probably why the error happens

[wicked sage]

67 67 67 mustard mustar d67 mustard mustard 67

IM CRASHING OUT

[golden ocean]

Weave

[gaunt spade]

crashout

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-crash-out-angry-gif-15667791719891680630

[wicked sage]

OK GEMINI 2.5 PRO WORKS

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!

[gaunt spade]

https://tenor.com/view/what-comes-after-5-6-7-teacher-student-67-gif-688526955260566759

[stray aspen]

lmao

[last venture]

Do we all get 5 generations a day?

For videos

[echo aurora]

yes

[last venture]

Thanks

[wicked sage]

pineapple do you have a few minutes to spare? i wanna show you my clicker (windows 98 themed)

nvm i rewrote

ok wait

let me record

[fiery gull]

@normal abyss the gemini 3.0 will be release just in december bro

[normal abyss]

😭

[fiery gull]

stop this "toxic hope"

[wintry tinsel]

Preview in November

[wicked sage]

note: if you click the left option on those scam notifications you get redirected to rick roll

also dont ask why "hello!" is there

hold on

[wicked sage]

https://d.uguu.se/MqESCeia.mp4 sorry for double ping, i also havent shared winamp this time, sorry!

[dry siren]

Gemini 2.5 Pro sessions are still consistently failing after ~30 turns. This is not happening on Google's native AI Studio, which points to an issue on the LMSYS side. It feels like your platform is either hitting its API rate limit/quota with Google or has implemented a new internal session limit for Gemini. Can you please investigate this?

[echo aurora]

thanks for sharing! Would encourage you to share in #ai-creations as well!

[wicked sage]

oh right ty

btw i used opus 4.1, sonnet 4.5 and gemini 2.5 pro when claude was sh*tting itself

[echo aurora]

which one was the one you shared?

[gaunt spade]

just use the AI studio website if want to use it for long term sessions

because LMArena is not designed for long term sessions

[wicked sage]

this ver was made by gemini 2.5 pro.

btw!

of course its broken

wait

IM NOT EVEN JOKING THIS IS SO LAGGY. 😭

[echo aurora]

the site overall or models responding? both?

[wicked sage]

models responding

probably because i just pasted my code for like a billi times

btw do you understand whats going on here ❤️

ok im pretty sure the bot just stopped working what

[echo aurora]

How many chats did you do? is it all models?

[echo aurora]

I'm going to need more context

[wicked sage]

i asked the bot to optimize the code

also i have spent 15 minutes over a single problem where the progress bar was just making the game not work.. at all

[wicked sage]

idk i dont rember

[echo aurora]

I'd encourage you to create a post in #1343291835845578853 and provide the relevant info there as it'll help us keep things organized a bit better.

[wicked sage]

wait, creating a post in bugs for what?

sorry im dummy

[lament tinsel]

don't play with my emotions

[knotty fable]

Looks like low level 💩 on an unifineshed model in alpha testing to me.

[ocean vortex]

skill issue

[knotty fable]

That is IMG to video, where the image is not only colour corrected but of enormous size. = Sora is inferior to a dozen other AI's where exactly the same prompt were used.

[wicked sage]

it has been

half a hour.

[ocean vortex]

Main use-case of sora2 is creating social-media like content. Not many direct alternatives for this. What you are trying to do here is not what it was made for

[wicked sage]

AND I STILL DIDNT FIND THE PROBLEM.

[ocean vortex]

Just use the right tool for the job I suppose

[knotty fable]

......if I had the slightest intension for seppukum I'd go for it already. 😺

[gaunt spade]

sora 2 is bad at img-video, but very good at creating videos itself

[wicked sage]

LEAVE ME TGE F CK ALONE ALREADY

STOP

STOP IT

[gaunt spade]

gemini 2.5 pro?

[wicked sage]

🙂‍↕️

[gaunt spade]

ask claude 4.1 opus to find the error

[ocean vortex]

Sora1 was much less specialized and more general, more in line with what you are trying to do. But it is outdated by now. With v2 they branched towards social media shorts to distinguish themselves

[gaunt spade]

hmm

[ocean vortex]

It's no coincidence that sora2 website is basically social media site lol

[gaunt spade]

yea sora 2 is good at creating videos, not editing images to videos

[wicked sage]

i hate this

[stray aspen]

is lithiumflow gone from webdev arena?

[knotty fable]

...just to get a result that is regurgitated from things already made and seen a zillion times before? What is the point of that? None whatsoever
That is why an AI need to be able to do the simple work of animating a scene where all the work have been done in advance by providing an image according to the vision of the author, composer and visionary.
And that without downgrading the highly detailed artwork into low resolution 💩 as was shown.

[gleaming roost]

I'm thinking the same thing, I can't find him anymore today and I've already found him about 5 times today

[blazing rune]

Claude 4.5 Sonnet is better, or the same at the very least

And it's a lot cheaper

[viral raptor]

Good Day All Jim here,🥰

[wicked sage]

can someone delete my account alread ybro

[gleaming roost]

hello

[torn mantle]

@echo aurora the new code arena is not using react/nextjs anymore?

its generating .html files

[wicked sage]

how to use

sora 2 on

lma

rn

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-bird-gif-16835999897918525830

[torn mantle]

it actually got the failed .html wrong

[gleaming roost]

here is normal

[torn mantle]

wym?

[gleaming roost]

yes

[torn mantle]

it got the tags wrong too

[torn mantle]

thats not the new code arena

[gleaming roost]

what's new? wtf

[torn mantle]

https://canary.lmarena.ai/?chat-modality=webdev

this is the new one

[gleaming roost]

ohhh

[echo aurora]

That's correct, multi-file react app is on the roadmap

[gleaming roost]

yeah, it's actually doing it in html

[torn mantle]

hmm i see

well in webdev im asking it to generate with html too, since it got so many conflicting env issues

[elder burrow]

code arena sysprompt

nvm, sry, its not accurate

[polar niche]

Hello AI

[gaunt spade]

when did that release?

[burnt sinew]

Got rid of direct chat?

[torn mantle]

i think these are not necessary :

Make sure the index.html file includes:

• HTML structure with proper DOCTYPE
• Tailwind CSS for styling via CDN: , styling inline, or via an inline

it will just confuse the model

idk if those tags are rendering issues or actual model output issues

[gleaming roost]

It doesn't work for me, I just get errors

[gaunt spade]

its on the bottom left now

[gleaming roost]

unfortunately they removed gemini 3

[gaunt spade]

Are the codename models available on the new dev arena?

[gaunt spade]

but they're in webdev arena

[gleaming roost]

are no longer

[gaunt spade]

are you sure

[gleaming roost]

I've been trying for over an hour

[gaunt spade]

oh damn, they must removed it there too

[gleaming roost]

☹️

[gaunt spade]

welp i cant test it anymore

until preview release

[echo aurora]

This is on our radar, we're working on a fix asap

[gaunt spade]

yup i cant even access the code

[torn mantle]

yea you can see after you vote

[echo aurora]

you can also select Direct & Side by Side too

[torn mantle]

i hope its not constrained by a specific styling as well

just let the model chose whatever its trained on

i know they are trying to build a fair battle

but thats more fair imo

[gaunt spade]

i cant see the battle mode or the side by side

[torn mantle]

also the 10 max tool calling

[gaunt spade]

and it only lets me choose the models

[timid turret]

Issues with image uploading ?

[echo aurora]

are you on canary?

[gaunt spade]

nvm i figured it out, u have to unselect the models for battle mode to activate

yeah

[echo aurora]

Gotcha, yeah that's also a new UI we're experimenting with at the moment.

[gaunt spade]

yeah im not used to that lol

[torn mantle]

im kinda curious if the high variability from lithium is related to webdev arena sys prompt

sometimes it just do some changes that you didnt ask for

and it doesnt maintain the same UI at all

[junior orchid]

To learn

[burnt sinew]

Same here

[gaunt spade]

i had that happen to my generated game lol, it kept changing the character and the background even tho I told it not to change the UI/characters

[torn mantle]

yea i had to craft a prompt tailored just for lithium to stay consistent

[echo aurora]

We are experiencing some other issues with the site right now, not just Code Arena.

[torn mantle]

i really hope its not a model issue

[gleaming roost]

🤔

[gaunt spade]

also didn't they remove lithium and orion from the webdev too?

[torn mantle]

yea

[little mountain]

Hey guys!

[torn mantle]

it was impressive at UI coding

but so bad at instruct following

and its so prompt sensitive

[gaunt spade]

thats why people kept zero-shotting prompts instead of improving them after 1 iteration

[zinc bolt]

Hope we get Gemini 3 pro tests soon!

[ebon epoch]

Is anyone else getting errors when you try to generate pictures on the web version of LM Arena?

[torn mantle]

yea a lot of people were having rendering issues with lithium

especially if you ask it to render 3D simulation

[still garden]

IDK, I cant upload images tho

Errors on me

[torn mantle]

it will use threejs but then the version used is incompatible with the pre-installed nextjs

[ebon epoch]

Oh, their having a core issue ok, i was wondering why i couldnt generate an AI picture for an app i use. thanks for the clarification.

[gaunt spade]

well i actually had a good generation for a 3D simulation of the solar system

i will send the link for it

https://codepen.io/Private-Data/pen/jEWxqJq

[torn mantle]

looks good

but its not that challenging anymore to LLMs tbh

[gaunt spade]

bro Claude 4.1 Opus failed horribly

[torn mantle]

im always telling it to be creative and create something from scratch

sonnet 4.5 generated a good one for me before

[gaunt spade]

i even tested it on 4.5 sonnet and they all looked horrible, the planets were clipping eachother

[gaunt spade]

surprising

[torn mantle]

did it generate js & html?

or did you fix some bugs with an IDE

[gaunt spade]

yup the same prompt as lithiumflow, they all generated the full code but only lithium works well and looks good

[torn mantle]

did you ask it to generate code separately?

[gaunt spade]

nope, i can find the prompt if you want

[torn mantle]

alright

[bright temple]

is it me or imagen just isnt working

[torn mantle]

its not

they said they are fixing it

[bright temple]

ohhh okayy

[hard badge]

same like cant upload pics

[echo aurora]

We're having some problems with the site atm, team is looking into asap.

[vital wasp]

Random zoom

[elder burrow]

you know what else is not necessary?

the webdev system prompt

and yes

this is the reason it couldnt make any good games

its literally told its just a frontend engineer

and a ton of bloat

[gaunt spade]

not u again

[lunar glade]

Image failed to load issue?

[echo aurora]

Yes, and other issues as well, team is working on it though.

[wicked sage]

I CAN WORK ON THE WINDOWS 95 PROJECT

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[torn mantle]

hello

sup

[torn mantle]

lol

i was looking for this

just to understand whats happening bts

let me take a look\

[gaunt spade]

use the new code arena for that

[gaunt spade]

i dare you to find 4.1 Opus/4.5 sonnet system prompt

[wicked sage]

link?

[elder burrow]

actual sys prompt

[gaunt spade]

u got claude's sys prompt?

[elder burrow]

well the lmarena code mode seems to override it

i think

[gaunt spade]

how do u extract them? with a jailbreak prompt?

[silk hatch]

Video

[wicked sage]

i like project

[elder burrow]

i didnt even jailbreak

[elder burrow]

Video

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1326637626349977630/1416778765601734726/the_thinking_process_in_question.gif

#video-arena-1

#1397655624103493813

[glass zealot]

lmarena website is down, cant generate images

[feral stag]

#general

[torn mantle]

ty

[echo sinew]

@narrow oracle Our site isn't working at the moment. We're working on a fix. We'll have an announcement when it's back. Apologies for the inconvenience.

[torn mantle]

oh

they updated it?

[gleaming sandal]

My body is ready for genie 3

[elder burrow]

nah its just a better extraction

[young blaze]

Bros do I have to use arena or can I use ai of my choice?

[elder burrow]

this ones correct

[elder burrow]

arena but if you have a powerful device search up "how to host (any open source model)"

[golden ocean]

wtf

so true

fr

[young blaze]

Ohhh ok

[elder burrow]

so true

https://cdn.discordapp.com/ephemeral-attachments/1340554757827461211/1431044838169776138/quote_1431044753213882529.png?ex=68fbfbdc&is=68faaa5c&hm=56c4b6a40135d70df62c8207b0726d55083fa9aa6bf11b489e0ea7fa5aced8b9&

[golden ocean]

LMFAO

[young blaze]

Would iPad Pro suffice

[elder burrow]

for small models yeah

[wicked sage]

WHY ARE HIS EYES BLUE

[stiff mountain]

hello

[young blaze]

Bings image creator is pretty good

[gaunt spade]

isnt it just the gpt image

[torn mantle]

IMPORTANT: You have a maximum of 10 sequential tool-calling steps to complete the task. Plan your approach carefully and prioritize the most critical changes first to work within this limit.

i think this one is better, it wont put that strict constraints but it will at least create a minimum viable product :

• If the user's request is too complex to be completed in 10 steps, build a simplified but functional version of the core feature.

[elder burrow]

ya it is

[weary oyster]

It’s saying do not have permission? I’ve been using this for a while. What happened?

[hard badge]

its working for me thanks

[echo sinew]

NVM

[echo aurora]

Yeah looks like it could be back.

[echo aurora]

Lol sorry just got the word

[gaunt spade]

is it gonna fix both of the websites?

[echo aurora]

Yes, image upload should be working, same with Code Arena

[gaunt spade]

thx

[hard badge]

it is

[echo aurora]

Yeah just confirmed, we're back!

[gaunt spade]

we're so back

[torn mantle]

they should add a special case for 3d simulation to fix the bundler/environment mismatch or a version conflict between libraries

[gaunt spade]

bro the new code arena is so good

[wicked sage]

pineapple here is how many people i can fit in my game

how many programs*

why did i say people

[gaunt spade]

lol

[torn mantle]

they still want to use a component based sandbox with react

they should also add "use client;" directive

for SSR incompatibility

i think thats what was causing non rendering issues in the first place

[wicked sage]

btw omnificat check #ai-creations

[elder burrow]

@echo aurora can you ask the developers to add an exception to the system prompt?
this part of the system prompt:

"ALWAYS create complete, functional web applications in a single index.html file.
Make sure the index.html file includes:

• HTML structure with proper DOCTYPE
• Tailwind CSS for styling via CDN:"

instructs to include tailwind, but its not always needed when making websites, so its likely that people are going to run into issues similar to webdev where models would often create ui based versions of whatever was prompted because the system prompt tells it that it's a react engineer and to use tailwind

[echo aurora]

Will do, thank you for sharing

[torn mantle]

also doesnt tailwind have FOUC issues

especially the ver they are using?

v4

[wicked sage]

hey ananas whats code arena?

and how do i get there?

[torn mantle]

it will flash unstyled content while loading the page

[elder burrow]

https://canary.lmarena.ai/c/new?chat-modality=webdev

[torn mantle]

the UI/UX is much better

its fast

too

[elder burrow]

yeah

[torn mantle]

webdev feels heavy

[gaunt spade]

i miss lithiumflow tho

[torn mantle]

i dont miss that thing

[gaunt spade]

these models feel weak

[sullen quest]

its gone?

[torn mantle]

it pissed me off

[gaunt spade]

yup

[torn mantle]

its so dumb

[gaunt spade]

literally how

[torn mantle]

i mean it can create some crazy stuff but the way i see is more like an accurate pattern matching from trained data

but then when you ask it something out of norm it just breaks

i dont want to blame webdev sys prompt

because if its really that prompt sensitive then we are doomed

[gaunt spade]

lets wait for it's release, its probably coming out this week

[gaunt spade]

maybe adding a sys prompt to it breaks it

cuz 2.5 pro does the same

google models are like that

[torn mantle]

exactly

thats what im saying

they are bad at tool calling as well

i really hope im wrong

[gaunt spade]

well

we cannot decide yet since it was just a testing model

[magic stag]

What i don't get is how they put it up for only 4 days then take it down

Google i mean

[sullen quest]

have you seen how fast checkpoints go with google?

like

they just are like that

[magic stag]

No tbh

Haven't seen i mean

[gaunt spade]

bro google had like 3-4 Gemini 3 checkpoints rn

all in a week

[torn mantle]

a testing model contending for gemini 3 GA

[gaunt spade]

i think they're preparing for a release rn, polishing the model and choosing (hopefully the best checkpoint available)

[torn mantle]

i can see it being used to generate an initial UI frame but multi-convo with fixing bugs etc... its disastrous

it did create some cool stuff

i just didnt save the code

it made a beautiful molten core using threejs

[wicked sage]

hi guys

i got a question

does this make sense? my english isnt good

[burnt sinew]

Do you guys think gemini 3 will be free like gemini 2.5 pro

[torn mantle]

yea

but with more strict rate limits

[burnt sinew]

Idc about rate limits

[torn mantle]

thats why they are still trying different checkpoints

[burnt sinew]

I got 20 google accounts

[torn mantle]

oh wow

[burnt sinew]

1 free prompt per month

[gaunt spade]

if its on AI studio then yea

[gaunt spade]

when 2.5 pro preview launched, it was completely free, with no limits

[burnt sinew]

Always limits...

[gaunt spade]

its not like openai

[gaunt spade]

Google AI studio doesnt have that

[burnt sinew]

Even now there is

[gaunt spade]

on 2.5 pro?

[burnt sinew]

Yes they do. They are just absurdly high

10/min

Or a bit less than a min

[gaunt spade]

10 prompts a minute?

[burnt sinew]

Yeah

And 1k a day

[gaunt spade]

bruh thats unoticeable

[burnt sinew]

I'm pretty sure

[burnt sinew]

Yeah I know i said they are absurdly high

[gaunt spade]

Google already has all of our data + ad money

they dont need more

thats how they train their AIs

[burnt sinew]

Ublock origin 😍

[sullen quest]

or do they?

[burnt sinew]

And when do you guys think it will come out

Polymarket says before Nov 15

[gaunt spade]

i say this week

the preview comes only on Google AI studio

the full models take like 2 weeks

to release everywhere

[sullen quest]

alright then

bet

on it

if you so confident

[gaunt spade]

whats ur prediction

[hollow ivy]

december

.. has 31 days

[burnt sinew]

Go get rich then

25x your money

On what date?

[hollow ivy]

so you bet november

[gaunt spade]

sadly im in Europe

lol

[burnt sinew]

So what?

Bet you put October 15

100 bands all on October 15 yes

[wicked sage]

what the f ck

did claude just

disappear???

no it didnt

anyways im going to bed

cya

[gaunt spade]

cya

[stray aspen]

forton got banned

lol

a guy that bypassed the n word

[burnt sinew]

You are supposed to say forton who?

[stray aspen]

theres no mercy here

its a straight ban

[burnt sinew]

Pineapple AI shows no mercy

Or midnightfade

Or mpoe

[stray aspen]

no all of them lol

sometimes they give you verbal warnings

[burnt sinew]

Oh

[stray aspen]

anyways

are we getting gpt - 5 pro on lm arena

[obsidian cargo]

forton ite battle royale

[floral comet]

No, dont think so

[echo aurora]

I'm not AI 😭

[burnt sinew]

Haha it's just a little joke

I hope you didn't take it to heart

How can I make it up to you

[stray aspen]

lol

[echo aurora]

Already forgiven

🫂

[burnt sinew]

🥰

[shell laurel]

I want to write a book

[wicked mason]

Ok you will write book

[shell laurel]

How can I write a book here?

[sullen quest]

wdym

[shell laurel]

@sullen quest

[sullen quest]

.

[tame sorrel]

hi

[echo aurora]

I think you're looking for https://lmarena.ai/

[echo aurora]

hello

[crude goblet]

so is lithium gone

[stray aspen]

yes

it seems like it is

[sullen quest]

nooooooooooo

[halcyon nimbus]

that means it might be going live on aistudio soon tho?? im more bummed about huny 3 being down D:

[ashen mauve]

sigh

[cloud zinc]

how to get lithiumflow

[halcyon nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/restless-gif-1514542008269461846

[cloud zinc]

lithiumflow was bad. hope its not gemini 3 pro

[halcyon nimbus]

best image and llm both down at the same time rofl

it might be flash idk which is which at this point

[ashen mauve]

chat should i touch virtual grass now that ai broke

[simple perch]

Is the Ai thing down?

I can't generate an image with ANYTHING.

[halcyon nimbus]

nano banana at least works

[simple perch]

Nothing is working for me.

[halcyon nimbus]

seems to be

and to be fair, that is a sick dragon

[simple perch]

Been in queue for 240+ seconds so far... after refreshing the page for the fifth time...

[halcyon nimbus]

love how it added loot and swords and the village, just prompted 'dragon'

start a new chat

[rocky mauve]

@echo aurora If somebody dms me advertising, can they be banned?

[ashen mauve]

what is the diffrence between the three websites like there is the normal website, beta and canary

[simple perch]

Tell them the middle finger.

[halcyon nimbus]

dms can be faked so idoubt it kermit

i assume canary is just testing things and beta is.. beta lol

[echo aurora]

I'd block them and still report to mods as it's helpful to see if we get other reports

[ashen mauve]

there seems to be zero diffrence between the beta and the canary sites

[echo aurora]

Beta and Canary versions we can use for early deployments to test with; however, those sites you can expect bugs

[ashen mauve]

neet

[echo aurora]

What seems to be the issue?

[ashen mauve]

website is down apperently

https://www.website-down.com/https%253A%252F%252Flmarena.ai%252F

[echo aurora]

agree, very sick dragon

[echo aurora]

oh

hmm looking into

[simple perch]

Okay, well, I just disconnected my wifi on my phone and it seems to work with my cell data. I was gonna ask if my IP was banned or something. 😂

[echo aurora]

ah, it could be a vpn causing the issue if you're using that?

[echo aurora]

seems to be up, not seeing other reports either

[ashen mauve]

That is weird because like it's the normal "Something went wrong while generating the response. Please try again." type stuff.

[halcyon nimbus]

oh huny 3 is working again, maybe reset your modem idek

[simple perch]

Yeah, it's working now.

[echo aurora]

You shouldn't be running into this in battle mode btw

[ashen mauve]

Yeah that's the thing of how weird it gets, could be any number of things or could be something on my end... then again I tested it on a number of other places.

[halcyon nimbus]

man id pay a dollar to get priority llm/image generation

[severe stream]

What model would you recommend with under 2 second replies and is still very accurate

[halcyon nimbus]

gemini flash-lite latest, maybe not under 2 seconds but is what id use if i wanted speed and awesome model

[unkempt elk]

Guys which one is good for web dev

Claude 4.1 16k thinking
Claude 4.5 32k thinking
Gpt-5 High
Or a diff one

[ashen mauve]

huh

how do i even get to the browser console

[unkempt elk]

Refresh
It happens sometimes when you leave the page opens and do nothing

[ashen mauve]

Ah. Thanks.

[maiden fulcrum]

Guys, NimbleBean video model on the arena is Kling 2.5 Turbo Standard

[balmy mist]

is it good?

[maiden fulcrum]

it's number 1

[balmy mist]

better than sora?

how do i use it?

how long are vids and how is it with copyrighted stuff?

[maiden fulcrum]

API

[balmy mist]

ughh

[maiden fulcrum]

0.21/5s and 0.42/10s

[balmy mist]

u like it better than sora?

[maiden fulcrum]

It's only i2v model

Sora has t2v and i2v, even though I dont like their i2v bcs too restricted with humans

[ashen mauve]

welp ai is getting to a point were we arent going to be able to tell what is or isnt real

[maiden fulcrum]

I am surprised Kling hasn't revealed this model yet

[ashen mauve]

cant wait until we have AI TV and Music

[maiden fulcrum]

def

[balmy mist]

that why labelling it is key, like not visibly

and live shows and stuff are gonna sky rocket in price

[ashen mauve]

ok but the thing is when people decide not to do that

we will have real time AI TV/Music

[maiden fulcrum]

that is why sora has a watermark on each video

[ashen mauve]

but their is AI to remove the sora watermark

[balmy mist]

its not just visible

but internal as well

[ashen mauve]

its still going to be intresting though

we already have anime that is fully AI and is better then a lot of stuff out there

and some youtube videos are freaking wild with AI stuff

its just going to be how we use it and what creations we can make before it starts creating itself

live action AI Videogames that feel like one long cutseen when

[maiden fulcrum]

I haven't seen any other AI model which produces a perfect run like that

[ashen mauve]

i bet you could get away with showing people outside this server to see if it they can tell if it is AI or Not

most might say its real

[maiden fulcrum]

it looks so real

[ashen mauve]

exactly my thoughts

[maiden fulcrum]

@ashen mauve looks at this one

[ashen mauve]

if it wasnt posted here id say its real

[maiden fulcrum]

If I send it to my cousins whom they are not in the AI community, they'd say it is real without a question

[ashen mauve]

ehh with the medical one i dont know about that one

[ashen mauve]

some medical nerd would probably say its real because xyzabc they hold it this way

that just looks like it is from some movie at this point

[maiden fulcrum]

I am a doctor so I can tell

[maiden fulcrum]

lol

[ashen mauve]

my thoughts are they were not holding the forceps or whatever correctly but the way that whatever was being handed off was smooth beyond that so-so

[maiden fulcrum]

he was holding one each hand then he took another one from his assistant, and they way it happened feels so real

this one looks like from a Netflix TV show

[dapper pebble]

can someone say which channel this photo is from ?

[magic stag]

I wonder what company its from

Since google and openai just had their major video model releases

[maiden fulcrum]

Kling

[magic stag]

I meant nimblebean not kling 2.5

Or is that what u meant

[maiden fulcrum]

These are Gemini 3.0 Pro models

[maiden fulcrum]

NimbleBean is the codename for Kling 2.5 Turbo Standard model

[magic stag]

Oh

Lmao

[maiden fulcrum]

np 🙂

[rocky mauve]

What

[magic stag]

Inspect element

[rocky mauve]

Are u saying that ill fake it to get someone banned

[dapper pebble]

can you say which channel this photo is from ?

[vague halo]

first time in discord just seen for the moment

[halcyon nimbus]

just saying its possible, someone can make 10 accounts, report fake screenshots, boom someones banned

[ashen mauve]

what dose any of this mean

[frigid eagle]

Higgsfield ai popcorn model aad please

[wicked sage]

?????????????

can

i k ill

this mf

[dull flax]

Hello

[narrow finch]

hello everyone! first time here and ready start my journey as youtuber lol

[wicked sage]

@echo aurora

the link doesnt even f cking work 😭

ok?

[queen veldt]

Free €a$h

[wicked sage]

cash

what

https://o.uguu.se/BShPFfBu.mp4 btw

[queen veldt]

Is that web os from ai or what

[wicked sage]

???

speak english please

[hollow imp]

@keen beacon you on Mac?

Have u tried atlas

[fiery oasis]

Hi everyone

[whole sundial]

the 🪽 🐙 has been released... (MiniMax-M2)

[wicked sage]

You are stupid stupid stupid

[fiery gull]

Is it revolutionary? 🫣 like Claude 3.5

[fiery gull]

Use AiStudio

[wicked sage]

whats that

oh

google ai studio

[odd tinsel]

hello i love prompting and generation, like playing with a shiny new toy

[daring rock]

@hallow forge Please head to #1397655624103493813 for a detailed guide on how to use the bot

[knotty fable]

A bit of general advice.....
When extending a video clip many like myself extract the last frame - but that frame might be quite more blurry and have a lot of compression artifacts, so what to do?
Unsharp mask would make a few things sharper, but also make the jpg noise even worse. And sending it into one image making AI will change details.
So the best might be to use any of the many-many image enhancers that now have popped up for improving digital camera pictures.
Among those I tested I found imggen.ai to be quite better than most others, and it do indeed remove compression artifacts.

[daring rock]

@faint charm Please head to #1397655624103493813 for a detailed guide on how to use the bot

[fiery gull]

?

[hoary rose]

hello guys

[echo sinew]

@wild jasper Please, read our guide in ⁠https://discord.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1397655624103493813 to learn how to properly prompt the bot.

[mental briar]

they do but but you can’t upload image on lmarena

Check the api document

[fallen swift]

i am missing a lot of context

[leaden sun]

oh nice! cant wait! thanks for sharing 😊

[magic stag]

The angelic octopus?

[floral goblet]

i am here to create videos

[robust yoke]

Welcome to the server.

To create videos, you can go to the #video-arena-1 channel.

[echo sinew]

@floral goblet Welcome. To learn how to create videos have a look at this guide in ⁠https://discord.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1397655624103493813

[eager eagle]

Hello

[echo sinew]

@cinder trout Please, read our guide in ⁠https://discord.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1397655624103493813 to learn how to properly prompt the bot.

[obsidian barn]

How to generate video from mobile what command I should use

[echo sinew]

Hi! Please check out this guide in ⁠https://discord.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1397655624103493813 to learn how to properly prompt the bot.

@obsidian barn Submit your prompts in #video-arena-1

[jolly root]

After pushing the prompt will it remind me once generated?

[echo sinew]

Yes. The bot should send a DM once the generation is completed.

[jolly root]

Thanks man

[echo sinew]

No problem

[static arch]

claude-sonnet-4-5-20250929-thinking-32k
Something went wrong with this response, please try again.

Guys how to fix this?

[hollow imp]

Refresh page

[static arch]

I did that like 999 times also restart my PC

[unkempt turret]

Whoever created LM......I love you bro lol

[quartz pike]

gemini 3 in 2 days:

source:

my left buttcheek

[shadow jewel]

whats the best photo generating ai rn?

[elder burrow]

yey

i was right

ig

it took then 22 days to release it

i hope thats not the case for gemini

[echo aurora]

This is on the teams radar, I'll be sure to bump it

[balmy mist]

lol https://x.com/boneGPT/status/1981215004197315070

bone (@boneGPT)

i told the LLM to trade like a retarded degenerate and it's up 200%

all the algo traders told me i need to have a background in data analysis to pull this off

they lied

literally just tell the LLM to be retarded

X · Oct 23, 2025, 4:24 AM

this wild

[barren prairie]

Not here 🙂

[hushed terrace]

@half sonnet Please check https://discordapp.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1397655624103493813 to learn how to generate content 🙂

[gaunt spade]

maybe we should act like it

[static arch]

geez

[warm zodiac]

it lost all of that a few hours later btw

[leaden laurel]

how did you take its system prompt

[leaden laurel]

i think its not gonna release less than in a month

from now

[hollow imp]

Bro

[gleaming roost]

gemini 3 only in december guys

[hollow imp]

Someone sent a polymarket photo

Where people are earning money just by saying no that gemini 3 won't come in october

[hallow axle]

how to do ascii art

[hollow imp]

Who dekete

Delete

[gleaming roost]

https://tenor.com/view/kasheyez-eyeskash-kasheyes-target-target-acquired-gif-17528485774832700596

[fiery gull]

finally I bought 2 monitors, but I'll be crazy with 2 monitors Idk

[balmy mist]

random gens

[fiery gull]

I sawing in smartphone look sooo realistc, but in an 24' monitor like playdoh

[hallow axle]

bro

[hallow axle]

what happened

[balmy mist]

which one?

[fiery gull]

the frog one

[fiery gull]

this don't like playdoh for me

#1397655624103493813

[hushed terrace]

@gritty acorn Hey please check to learn how t generate 🙂 ☝️

[balmy mist]

wym?

[warm zodiac]

the results so far are consistent with a random walk

[crude goblet]

is this sora

[robust yoke]

Yes. Like Midnight said, it'll notify you once finished.

[balmy mist]

ahh i was just thought it was wild that the degen llm made so much and then lost it lol

full lifecycle of trench trading

[balmy mist]

yeah

[crude goblet]

i miss lithium

bring it back!

[robust yoke]

Honestly, I didn't even realize that model was gone.

I just kept trying to get it on WebDev.

[round sedge]

I should do this sometime

[burnt sinew]

Gemini 3 on November 12 according to mine

Right one though

[quartz pike]

holy tuff ts is actually fire???

[burnt sinew]

Looks cool but there's some discontinuity

[verbal nimbus]

Seems like most of it is in the coding category (not agentic coding category though).

[balmy mist]

yeah gonna tweak it more, but im tryna get the best version of superspeed

[verbal nimbus]

Interesting correlation matrix, where are the music benchmarks from? @keen beacon

[balmy mist]

cause even the ones we got that are not ai kinda suck

[burnt sinew]

Well its not really your fault I see it in all other videos too

But if you can prompt that issue out? Would be amazing

[balmy mist]

i think you can get lucky

[verbal nimbus]

Very cool, do you have a ranking breakdown?

Smaller graph. Red is mostly <0.2, dark green is mostly >0.4. Green underlined is >0.5.

I didn't expect data analysis to be so low, maybe it's fairly easy for LLMs (converting between JSON/CSV).

The agentic coding and mathematics category seems to have moderately positive correlation

I think some categories are bad (like coding), but individual categories still seem useful (like agentic coding, with a mean of correlation of >0.5 with your benchmark).

[hexed raft]

hello

[verbal nimbus]

Interesting how Flash does so much better than Pro here.

[gaunt spade]

GUYS

GOOD NEWS

[verbal nimbus]

Is the top one Flash Lite?

[gaunt spade]

LITHIUMFLOW IS BACK

check it out

[verbal nimbus]

Is the one that did better the reasoning or non-reasoning one?

Interesting that Pro does worse than Flash at theory too

[gaunt spade]

someone got the lithiumflow api

and made a website for it

crazy

[verbal nimbus]

Maybe time to test it on some chord analysis xD

I meant for my pieces. Last I tried, they were all pretty bad at identifying chord structure.

What format did you use for notes? They seemed to have a lot of trouble understanding it.

Maybe because I was feeding in individual notes, I might try again and see.

[verbal nimbus]

That's surprisingly close

Claude got it right:

Not sure about now, but they were pretty bad at reading music notation (vision). More or less random outputs.

Which category did they seem to struggle in?

It's a bit limiting, since it doesn't show how the notes line up or which note it actually is.

Was looking into MusicXML (too verbose though)

[subtle belfry]

I WZNNA GENERATE A NEW VIDEO BUT I CANT FIGURE THIS OUT BC IM A TOTLAL NOOB ANY ONE HELP

[verbal nimbus]

Sonnet 4.5 got this one wrong:

Identify the type of mode or scale as specifically as possible (use the mode name only, i.e. Ionian NOT C Ionian): A-Bb-C-D-Eb-F-G-A

[hushed terrace]

Hi there! Check this to learn 😉 https://discordapp.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1397655624103493813

[verbal nimbus]

ChatGPT stopped itself midway then got the right answer:

Yeah

It got the chords better than ChatGPT in first test ig

They're kind of inconsistent

If they could read sheet music and analyze it properly, that would be really helpful

Seems odd that they can't read it, since sheet music is so structured, and there's so much data available (can just generate the sheets from midi, then feed the it back for training).

[hollow ivy]

Sonnet or LF?

which model is best for C++ coding?

better than LF?

lith

[hushed terrace]

@fair junco Hi there. Just a reminder that englisj isthe only language allowed in the chat channels 🙂

[verbal nimbus]

Is a larger graph available?

[burnt sinew]

What is this for

[proud hazel]

Hi

[crude goblet]

hii

[echo aurora]

hello @crude goblet @proud hazel

[lament tinsel]

What happened to lithiumflow?

[verbal nimbus]

Someone poured water on it 💥

(it got removed along with Orionmist)

[lament tinsel]

Lithiumflow built amazing things and I wouldn't find it again.

[lament tinsel]

thanks for the information

[proud hazel]

@echo aurora Is the sign-up process somehow buggy if you sign up with an email address? I didn't receive a verification link. I've already tried resending it.

[daring rock]

@undone violet Please head to #1397655624103493813 for a detailed guide on how to use the bot

[echo aurora]

Thanks for the heads up, going to followup in a private thread as I may need the email address associated.

[warm zodiac]

update to the leaderboard next week?

[gaunt spade]

gemini 2.5 pro votes are rigged

the model sucks so bad at coding, creative writing and everything else

[golden ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807809192537882647/1349106998637101146/caption-1-3.gif

[ashen mauve]

Huh so ether Grok is dumb or all the Grok Models in the website are all only Grok-1

I literally tried all of them and asked them the same question of what their cutoff date is and all of them keep telling me they are Grok-1

[magic stag]

#ai-creations message

This is actually disgusting how bad it is

Lmao

[echo sinew]

@long lantern Please, read our guide in ⁠https://discord.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1397655624103493813 to learn how to properly prompt the bot.

[primal barn]

Hello. I like AI videos

[echo aurora]

welcome welcome!

[vast fern]

what was the prompt

[verbal nimbus]

@vast fern It's here ^

[vast fern]

Thanks

[gleaming roost]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[ashen mauve]

life is sad now no more pie 🙁

[elder burrow]

dm me prompts to run on lithium

(im serious)

[stray aspen]

Cause its gone

[daring rock]

@dry sand Please head to #1397655624103493813 for a detailed guide on how to use the bot

[stray aspen]

Hey how do you get the arena champion role

[echo aurora]

This announcement here has more information about the program including where to apply - #announcements message

[rocky fable]

hi

[echo aurora]

hello

[stray aspen]

Alright

I just sent the form

I was already a arena champion before until I got wrongfully banned but i don't know if that counts

[dawn grove]

how did the Coders of lmarena even get those models lithiumflow and orionmist those are Gemini 3.0 pro if i heard it right

[robust yoke]

They got in contact with Google and got the models early, just like how they managed to get nano-banana early.

[dawn grove]

ah alright thank you! But they are Gemini 3.0 pro both models right?

[robust yoke]

No, Lithiumflow was just the Flash version, while the ones on Google AI Studio are the Pro versions.

[sullen quest]

evidence?

[dawn grove]

No can't be because both Think so long

[sullen quest]

lmarena is designed specifically for ai's to be tested, so google put those model's up for testing reasons

[robust yoke]

This post: #general message

[sullen quest]

that doesn't prove its flash

that just means its weaker than other checkpoints

[dawn grove]

Gemini 3.0 Will be Crazy good

[robust yoke]

It does, because notice how it doesn't say "Pro" next to it.

Meaning that it's no more than just a regular version of the well-known coding master that somehow overtook Claude.

[sullen quest]

...

thats a independent bench

[robust yoke]

Then why is there another version of it underneath?

[sullen quest]

..

because there's a lot of different checkpoints?

[robust yoke]

But that wouldn't make any sense because Gemini 3.0 in itself is one big branch.

So, why would there be other branches of the same model?

[sullen quest]

...................................................

darkness, u know how llm's work right?

[robust yoke]

Yes, I'm well-aware.

[sullen quest]

you remember llama 4?

[robust yoke]

Yeah?

[sullen quest]

did you know there was something like 40 different versions of llama 4 on lmarena under codenames before the release right?

checkpoints aren't the end model, they are test models

figure out how good it is, modify it or start over

[robust yoke]

But the thing is, that isn't a checkpoint. That's a version of the model.

[sullen quest]

thats.. the same thing

[robust yoke]

Just like how the Pro version isn't a checkpoint, it's a variant of the already existing model.

[sullen quest]

3 pro isn't out

only checkpoints being tested

[robust yoke]

I know that.

[sullen quest]

i'm going insane

[robust yoke]

I meant "already existing" as in the current one.

[sullen quest]

wat

[robust yoke]

The unreleased one.

[sullen quest]

wdyfm

[robust yoke]

The one that overtook Claude.

[sullen quest]

"less vague, please"

[robust yoke]

I'm not being vague.

[sullen quest]

.

[robust yoke]

You just have to learn to use your eyes and pay attention to the image.

[magic stag]

You are

Being vague

Lmao

[sullen quest]

Many model's have overtaken claude

in the history of claude

many of which aren't from google

[robust yoke]

But the latest Pro version did.

[sullen quest]

soooo truuueee

that doesn't mean anything to me without context

[robust yoke]

Then that image should be plenty to you.

[sullen quest]

this one?

[robust yoke]

Yes.

[sullen quest]

I see 4 gem 3's that overtook claude

WHICH ONE

[robust yoke]

The very top one.

Heh heh.

[sullen quest]

ok

thats just a checkpoint too

[robust yoke]

I find it funny how I'm unironically rage baiting you.

[sullen quest]

why

[robust yoke]

Well, because I don't really see what's very hard to understand about what I'm saying.

[sullen quest]

gemini 3 isn't a finished product as far as we know

[robust yoke]

Yes, and that's quite obvious.

[sullen quest]

so there isn't gonna be 1 version of it floating around

[robust yoke]

Right.

[quartz pike]

yall how good or bad is the new model?

-# even tho it just came out lol

[sullen quest]

haven't tried it

[robust yoke]

There's gonna be different variants like a lower-quality version and a higher-quality version, just like with what happened to nano-banana when it was first unveiled in LM Arena.

[gaunt spade]

what model

[normal abyss]

i hope its as good as the hype

[quartz pike]

i think its gonna be ass

[gaunt spade]

new codename model?

[sullen quest]

minimax is 56

[quartz pike]

minimax m2

[sullen quest]

so minimax m2 will be...

[gaunt spade]

idk some chinese model

[quartz pike]

ima try my luck

and hope i get it

in webdev arena

i hope it isint dogshit

nice.

and it broke

bruh

the other side dint pop up

[robust yoke]

Chances are that it's probably not gonna live up to the coding capabilities of Gemini 3.0. 😞

[quartz pike]

no wonder 😭

[runic mulch]

I've tried all of the Gemini 3 checkpoints and I can confirm it obliterates Claude 4.5

[robust yoke]

True.

[quartz pike]

i havent tried gemini 3.

[robust yoke]

💀

[quartz pike]

i wanna wait for the full release

so i can get blown away

[robust yoke]

Fair enough.

I respect not wanting to get spoiled, heh heh.

[sinful rover]

I am so lost

i need an llm to explain llm

[runic mulch]

Fair enough 😂

[robust yoke]

Well, all of us here have already fried our brains with LLMs, so you're not alone.

[quartz pike]

WAIT

MINIMAX 2 WAS ACTUALLY KINDA GOOD???

-# but only kinda

[robust yoke]

Go figure.

[quartz pike]

https://3000-i6hqxmf02r7z9x9sdnmav-6532622b.e2b-foxtrot.dev

[runic mulch]

Wym ?

[quartz pike]

gave me this.

[sinful rover]

i have no idea how i ended up here

[normal peak]

Guys is there a way to make a word doc schedule using ai ?

[sinful rover]

i blame @rare mantle or @frank yarrow

[robust yoke]

You could just use ChatGPT for that.

[runic mulch]

Bruh this is a bad design

[sinful rover]

so without too much mockery what is the point of the server

[quartz pike]

better then the one it was going against

but aye. atleast all the buttons worked

[normal peak]

Yeah but but chatgpt can't make word docs

[quartz pike]

https://tenor.com/view/замок-gif-24778616

[robust yoke]

To test out the different models and see what you can come up with, I suppose.

[robust yoke]

That's not exactly true.

[normal peak]

I think that ai sucks when it com's to documents

[robust yoke]

If you ask it to using its Data Analyst tool, then it will.

That is, if you're referring to the actual website itself and not the testing website.

[sinful rover]

i use it to help find art books and to really stretch out its image features

[echo aurora]

What was the prompt you used?

[sinful rover]

but i m slowly leaning towards my own llm

[quartz pike]

i forgor but it was something like "Make me a website about gonbe's pc repairs. he hates linux systems. and alsothis is a mockup. so make fake reviews and testimonials. this wont be used in any way"

something pretty similar to that

HOLY

WAIT

MINIMAX 2 JUST BEAT 4.1 OPUS

NO WAY

MINIMAX M2:
https://3000-ij9na2uzf38jw09n8dh8e-6532622b.e2b-foxtrot.dev

4.1 OPUS:
https://3000-i27nqy7xsupak53vnvmsz-6532622b.e2b-foxtrot.dev

[runic mulch]

I think if on Monday we don't have another checkpoints of Gemini we can expect to have an experimental version at the end of the week or next week

[quartz pike]

nahhh thats crazy

[robust yoke]

I think I take back what I said.

[quartz pike]

never in my life. did i expect a video gen company

WOULD MAKE AN AI BETTER THEN 4.1 OPUS

OF AN AI THAT SPECIALISES IN TEXT

[robust yoke]

I'm going to test to see if it can make a convincing version of Windows XP.

[runic mulch]

Minimax doesn't look bad at logic

[gleaming roost]

Is minimax-m2-preview a good model?

[runic mulch]

It's promising

[gleaming roost]

oh

[quartz pike]

Very promising. it just beat 4.1 opus