general

[keen beacon]

only a small portion are 🤣

[robust yoke]

10 years in the future from now:
Average human: “Ahhh… What a sunny day outside. Smartbed, place me into my smart wheelchair.”
Smartbed: “Yes, Greg.”

[keen beacon]

I find it interesting people think that with AI is gonna be leisure

it’s gonna be there to make sure you work faster and harder

[fiery gull]

I use about 1mi of tokens daily and never, and probably never will pay for AI

[fiery gull]

🤣

[keen beacon]

well somebody has to pay for it

nothing’s ever free

maybe the people paying 200 a month lol

so you’re telling me you go through 30 million tokens a month?

[robust yoke]

Weakest non-AI users:

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

vs.
Strongest AI users:

https://tenor.com/view/gumball-discord-mod-gif-22325292

[dim basin]

yoo it looks like a web broswer what that so sick, do you think it can have a mode or feature that can like look at your screen

ah okay, do you think its possible for me to do maybe 40 images in one day? maybe even in a couple hours if it resets?

[robust yoke]

True.

https://tenor.com/view/youknow-you-gif-19056787

[keen beacon]

of course it is not like people have a choice lol

[dim basin]

Is ChatGPT Atlas free?

[keen beacon]

yes

[robust yoke]

Seems like it.

[dim basin]

how do you get it? because ive tried searching it up and cant find it

[keen beacon]

I think it’s only available on Mac and iOS

[red basin]

I'm giving Opus agent accounts and agentic Browser for free who want??

[dim basin]

No way it only works on mac...

[keen beacon]

yeah

[dim basin]

I am on my SCHOOL macbook right now, I dont have anything blocked but

[keen beacon]

they need to get the OK from android and Microsoft

[robust yoke]

MacBook. 🤮

[dim basin]

The task I need it for, is done on my windows laptop at home

[dim basin]

ah

[keen beacon]

they even use them MacBook in the demonstration

[dim basin]

yeah i saw

[keen beacon]

you know, they gotta give that percentage to Apple lol

[dim basin]

how long before it comes out to windows?

anyone got any estimates or

[robust yoke]

Willing to bet in the following months.

[keen beacon]

sooner than later

[dim basin]

cause I know gemini live works on windows and thats sort of looking at your screen data thingy

[dim basin]

oh gosh 😭

[robust yoke]

But, I could be wrong.

[pulsar saffron]

so you are gambling?

[robust yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/money-smell-sus-gif-23801020

[dim basin]

how do you download it on mac?

[robust yoke]

Quite possibly…

[pulsar saffron]

oh no...

[frozen oyster]

Howdy folks, Im new to the space. Looking to learn some new ways of using generative ai

[random hound]

how do guys generate video in you aspected ratio ?

[dim basin]

How do you download chat gpt atlas on mac?

[pulsar saffron]

@robust yoke ur favorite video

[random hound]

like I have to generate video of 9:!6 ratio but its generating 16

:9 rTIO

[keen beacon]

you know, I’ll do anything for that token
anything for a little bit of credit

I love to get a little bit of credit and then I like to go into the high-end video generation models

and see if I can win the jackpot

maybe a viral video that would be awesome

then I know my credit was spent well

[fiery gull]

They don't are helping me

[keen beacon]

this is the AI community

[pulsar saffron]

this is the AI community

[drowsy tundra]

Create a short commercial video for Fairy Fingers, a graphic design agency in Ouidah, Benin.
Show a young elegant African woman (around 25 years old) wearing modern African attire, smiling and working at her computer in a stylish creative office filled with colors, posters, and design tools.
She speaks in French with subtitles.
Add smooth camera motion, vibrant lighting, and modern rhythmic background music (creative agency vibe).
Duration: 45–60 seconds.

Voice-over (French):

« À Ouidah, la créativité a un nom : Fairy Fingers.

Ici, chaque pixel compte.
Chaque couleur raconte une histoire.
Et chaque design devient une émotion.

Fairy Fingers, c’est plus qu’une agence de graphisme —
c’est une équipe de passionnés qui transforme vos idées en visuels percutants.

Logos, identités de marque, affiches, flyers, menus, visuels publicitaires…
tout est pensé pour attirer, inspirer et faire briller votre image.

Nous croyons en la puissance du design,
en la force d’une bonne idée,
et en la magie du détail bien fait.

Avec Fairy Fingers, votre marque prend vie.
Votre vision devient réalité.

🌟 Fairy Fingers — Donnons vie à vos idées. »

[fiery gull]

#1397655624103493813

[keen beacon]

damn these people be posting

They just see some text and they assume

[fiery gull]

In the end, they don't vote 😡

[keen beacon]

😂

[pulsar saffron]

I think they are bots

[fiery gull]

Literal bots

[keen beacon]

Beep beep

[turbid scroll]

https://www.opus.pro/agent?ref_id=VXFX40T5Q

[drowsy tundra]

I'am not a bot

[keen beacon]

Bot

I don’t know he passed the deadline

well thank you for confirming your humanity

I guess my point still stands lol

[drowsy tundra]

Moist Vanilla Cake
Ingredients (serves 6–8):

200 g (1 2/3 cups) all-purpose flour

150 g (3/4 cup) sugar

100 g (7 tbsp) melted butter

3 eggs

1 packet baking powder (about 1 tbsp)

1 packet vanilla sugar (or 1 tsp vanilla extract)

100 ml (about 1/2 cup) milk

A pinch of salt

Instructions:

First, preheat your oven to 180°C (350°F).

In a bowl, whisk together the eggs, sugar, and vanilla until the mixture is nice and pale.

Add the melted butter and milk, mixing everything until smooth.

Gently fold in the flour, baking powder, and a pinch of salt until you get a smooth batter.

Pour the batter into a greased and floured cake pan.

Bake for 30–35 minutes, or until the top is golden and a knife comes out clean.

Tips & Tricks:

Want to make it extra special? Throw in some chocolate chips or a bit of lemon zest.

You can also finish it with a simple vanilla glaze for that perfect sweet touch.

Enjoy your cake and don’t be afraid to get creative — baking is all about making it yours!

[keen beacon]

Cmon thats based

[dim basin]

Bro im so cooked, i need chat gpt atlas like today and the only mac I have is my school mac book, I downloaded it but open ai is blocked 😭

[keen beacon]

bro, you were fine like 10 minutes ago before it came out

loo

before you even knew it existed

[dim basin]

no i wasnt

I was like almost cooked

atlas would be very helpful

[keen beacon]

damn my bad

[pulsar saffron]

Dead internet theory is real I guess

[keen beacon]

i saw lol

😂

[dim basin]

is there some way to be able to install mac programs on windows

[fleet lintel]

Lithiumflow won every single battle I have encountered.. they definitly cooked this time. Can't wait for its launch

[pulsar saffron]

GEMINI 3 IS TOO COOKED TO BE COOKED

ITS SO GOOD

[keen beacon]

How cook is it..?

[dim basin]

how so

where are you finding this

[keen beacon]

atlas

[dim basin]

Atlas is telling you about gemini 3?

[pulsar saffron]

i tried it before

[dim basin]

how..??

[pulsar saffron]

it does do that no other model can do

[fervent tangle]

GUYS

[dim basin]

isnt it not out?

[dim basin]

like what

[pulsar saffron]

LMArena

[fervent tangle]

HOW DO I GET LITHIUMFLOW, ITS IMPOSSIBLE

[dim basin]

whats it called on there

[keen beacon]

he has access to atlas ans tot access to 3

[pulsar saffron]

too much to write

[fervent tangle]

gemini 3 pro is so good i wanna try it

[dim basin]

copy and paste

[pulsar saffron]

lithiumflow, orionmist

[fervent tangle]

aaaa

[dim basin]

im using search bar i dont see those

[keen beacon]

how cook is it?

[fervent tangle]

battle mode

only

[dim basin]

ohh okay

[keen beacon]

Lets go cook

[mortal frost]

what about my earlier video

[fervent tangle]

bro how u get lithiumflow i only get orionmist

[keen beacon]

ez

[fervent tangle]

its kinda impossible

[keen beacon]

not on atlas

[fervent tangle]

whats that

[keen beacon]

new browser by open ai

just came out

[fervent tangle]

and how does that give u gemini 3?

[keen beacon]

ez

[fervent tangle]

bruh what

im talking about gemini 3 not openai

[keen beacon]

facts

[fervent tangle]

what do you use it for

AI browser is kinda useless

[keen beacon]

😱

excusss me?

it can save history and bookmarks

and book hotels

[fervent tangle]

bruh i just looked on the atlas openai videos, ITS ASS

[keen beacon]

oh

[fervent tangle]

its literally a normal browser with chatgpt on the side...

wow openai keeps losing

[keen beacon]

yeah but he could book hotels for you

[fervent tangle]

i have hands

and a mouse

[stray aspen]

what model does copilot deepthink use

[fervent tangle]

prob gpt5 high

[keen beacon]

and it’s super safe

and you don’t have to worry about privacy or your data because open ai gonna secure it

you don’t have to worry about hackers anymore

[fervent tangle]

firefox better

[fervent tangle]

oh brother

[keen beacon]

and it blocks adult websites

which is gonna make it very useful for people that are professional

[fervent tangle]

this guy doesnt know openai steals his data, he's literally using the malware

[stray aspen]

i thought it was o4.

since thats what it said a few days after the release of gpt 5

[fervent tangle]

super safe AI browser wow

[stray aspen]

but i gues sthey should have changed it by now

[stray aspen]

gpt 5 highi s better

[fervent tangle]

well i guess gemini 3.0 pro is gonna release this month

and its gonna crush everything

[stray aspen]

it is lol

Ik

[fervent tangle]

gpt5 couldve been better tbh, they had a horrible release

[stray aspen]

yes

[fervent tangle]

sadly they only care about money

[stray aspen]

it wasnt even working properly

[fervent tangle]

200 bucks a month for a "smart" gpt5 pro

[stray aspen]

what a steal lol

[fervent tangle]

and it fails the hand test

[stray aspen]

you just wait 20 minutes for a results thats probably similar to gpt 5 high

[fervent tangle]

yeah the improvement is not that great between the pro and gpt5 high

not worth the money

unless they release gpt6 for 200 bucks a month

[pulsar saffron]

very cheap

[keen beacon]

Real llama

[fervent tangle]

sora 2 is good ig

[keen beacon]

that’s what the professionals use

sora 2 trash

[fervent tangle]

also do yall have access to sora 2

[fervent tangle]

nah its kinda good

veo 3.1 sucks so bad

[stray aspen]

yes

[fervent tangle]

u got the sora 2 pro? or the free one

[stray aspen]

free

[stray aspen]

i aint paying ai subscriptions

[keen beacon]

pro

[fervent tangle]

wtf is that

[stray aspen]

people say free sora 2 has seen decreased performance

[fervent tangle]

duh, it costs alot of money to run free stuff

and openai doesnt like that

[keen beacon]

sora 2

[fleet lintel]

my job performance is about 25-30% better because of AI. I wont live without AI subscriptions 🙂

[fervent tangle]

bro this is cursed

[stray aspen]

only ai subscription i have is the one that was given to all college accounts

[fervent tangle]

are u a software engineer

[stray aspen]

its a gemini subscription

[fleet lintel]

not really. my work is mostly email, chats, strategy docs, reviews. etc

I am not coding ..even though most of my team codes

[fervent tangle]

damn what kind of company hires for that job

[keen beacon]

Lol

[fleet lintel]

all conmpanies 🙂

[keen beacon]

🤣

I got replaced by AI

[fleet lintel]

honestly for most desk job workers, if you are not using AI in your job, you are losing out a lot. That's why i am super excited about gemini 3... it is going to further reduce my workload

[stray aspen]

and newer models will keep on reducing the workload until you just get laid off and replaced by ai

[fleet lintel]

if that's is going to happen then it is going to happen regardless you use AI or not

better use it and improve your efficiency and workload.

[fervent tangle]

gemini 3 pro gonna be the goat of coding

not sure about other stuff, maybe it has some agent work

[stray aspen]

it is its crushing web design

[fleet lintel]

I haven't tried any coding question yet.... but I have tried some very complex problems, it did extremely good

[fervent tangle]

well ig we wait until release

[fleet lintel]

i was very excited about gpt-5 launch as well.. but it didn't do better than 2.5 pro in my job. I was extremely disappointed.

hopefully gemini 3 wont betray me

[crude lagoon]

gng the lithiumflow is jus soooo peak

[fervent tangle]

lmarena is not the best place to test the model, since you can only do one shot prompts

thats what i hate about it the most

[crude lagoon]

soo far as i tested it smoked every single model start from GPT 5 to Claude 4.5 haiku

[empty stump]

When is predicted to be accessible normally

[crude lagoon]

well yeah that's true

[fervent tangle]

wydm

[fleet lintel]

same in my testing

[crude lagoon]

December

[fervent tangle]

google released 2.5 pro completely free tho

[empty stump]

Like able to use it on api or normal chat kind of thing

Ok

[stray aspen]

on ai studio?

[crude lagoon]

plss they do the same with this gemini 3.0

[fervent tangle]

yea

[crude lagoon]

😭
\

[stray aspen]

i hope its free on ai studio

[fervent tangle]

no 200 bucks openai bs

[fervent tangle]

it will be

[crude lagoon]

fk openai atp they are just desperate for money

[crude lagoon]

yeps tho it'll have limits

[empty stump]

And is gemini ultra just dead and replaced by deepthink

[fleet lintel]

$20 /month is also reasonable. .. but 200$ .. F that

[pulsar saffron]

200 bucks? you could buy a new pc for that be fr!

[fervent tangle]

i think they gonna release it this month or in november

[crude lagoon]

@pulsar saffron

[dim basin]

release what?

[fervent tangle]

for 200 bucks i would rather learn coding

[crude lagoon]

sundar pichai said in december tho

[pulsar saffron]

@crude lagoon

[fervent tangle]

where

[crude lagoon]

gemini 3.0

[warm zodiac]

yep

[fervent tangle]

they didnt state the release date of it yet

[pulsar saffron]

yes learn it i recommend youtube

[dim basin]

ohh but its out on LMArena

[fleet lintel]

that is probably stable version on API etc.
I think Nov Ist week is the launch. All signals point to that

[crude lagoon]

at some campaign ig idk saw multiple posts and blogs of it

[crude lagoon]

ye but i feel like its nerfed ther

[fervent tangle]

the preview is gonna release earlier tho

[crude lagoon]

prolly

[fervent tangle]

same as 2.5 pro preview

[warm zodiac]

its some sort of smaller model or weird checkpoint i think

[fervent tangle]

orionmist is 3.0 and lithiumflow is 3.0 pro

[crude lagoon]

hope soo.. ong it should release out before my gemini pro expires 😭

[dim basin]

wait it only comes on battle mode, how dyk if you got gemini 3 or not?

[crude lagoon]

yeah its a checkpoint

[warm zodiac]

its really good at coding things up but randomly gives me terrible text analysis and creative writing

so idk

[fervent tangle]

there was an a/b testing method on ai studio, but it got removed 2 days ago

[crude lagoon]

well when i asked about its parent company it said "im a large language model trained by Google"

[fervent tangle]

u can just read the codename

lithiumflow

[dim basin]

thats what i got rn

[crude lagoon]

and at some point it even said "im a large language model trained by open ai"

even gemini 2.5 pro

said the same

😭

[warm zodiac]

that makes me think its a distillation

[fervent tangle]

bro glm 4.5 told me it was trained by google

[crude lagoon]

are they tweaking

[crude lagoon]

😭 they be tweaking fr

[fervent tangle]

atleast claude doesnt lie

[warm zodiac]

GLM 4.5 was distilled using gem 2.5

[fervent tangle]

oh damn

[crude lagoon]

we need those nano-banana naming guys back

😔

[balmy mist]

gemini 3 is amazing, its what is powering the build on studio(its disguised as 2.5 pro)

[fervent tangle]

so the chinese AI companies stole the 2.5 pro and made it opensource

[crude lagoon]

ouhhh makes sense

[dim basin]

what is better overal gpt-5 chat or gpt-5 high

[crude lagoon]

i dont think so

[fervent tangle]

gpt 5 high for coding and math bs

[warm zodiac]

in a way, Z.ai is still a good company but it appears they did use gem 2.5 to make GLM 4.5 better

[pulsar saffron]

That's the only way open-source can win for now... I think it's fair enough?

[dim basin]

alr thanks

[balmy mist]

test and see, im telling you

[fervent tangle]

i mean every AI model steals data from eachother to become better

[crude lagoon]

idk before i gets to know it's true capabilities my daily quota ends

[crude lagoon]

just did an hour ago 😔

[fervent tangle]

nah bro they didnt release it yet on AI studio

[crude lagoon]

im just poor to the core that i got addicted to gemini pro which i got for free

😭

[fervent tangle]

its only available on battle mode on lmarena (codename lithiumflow)

rn

[crude lagoon]

yups

[pulsar saffron]

gemini 3 distilled when?

[fervent tangle]

3 months from now

[stray aspen]

ill try lithiunmflow

[pulsar saffron]

yes

[fervent tangle]

also why does everyone test it on SVG art

[crude lagoon]

mumbai city voxel art

[fervent tangle]

voxel art got popular because of 3.0 pro

lol

everyone doing voxel art and SVG

[crude lagoon]

ONGG

[pulsar saffron]

what website for voxel art

[crude lagoon]

yeah just saw it on X

[fervent tangle]

thats webdev

i think

[balmy mist]

they better not be on no nightwhisper stuff

[pulsar saffron]

make realistic house and we'll see

[balmy mist]

i still dont think we ever got that model

[fervent tangle]

i wanna try to make a 3D Doom game with it, not just one-shotting it

[crude lagoon]

SVG art is totally made up of code unlike normal images, it tests the capabilities of an ai model by testing it's blend with coding and crativity with artistic touch

[fervent tangle]

whats that

[pulsar saffron]

one-shot

[balmy mist]

a legendary model that only exist in folktale now

[dim basin]

there is daily quotas on atlas?

I was just about to ask is there any limit on gpt-5 on LMArena like can I just keep sending messages and uploading images without it timing me out or something

[stray aspen]

made a website with lithiumflow

its actually insane

https://3000-iic1e7h6q78bhgwly5w7d-6532622b.e2b-foxtrot.dev

[fervent tangle]

oh damn, i thought that model released

bro i remember reading x posts on it

shame they dumped it

[stray aspen]

gemini 3.0 pro absolutely smashed the benchmarks with this design

[fervent tangle]

lemme see

[fervent tangle]

yeah that is perfect UI

4.5 sonnet thinking can do similar stuff but its not that advanced

plus its more expensive to run

[fervent tangle]

lmao

[stray aspen]

soras 2 downgrade is insane lol

[fervent tangle]

@stray aspen my only complainment is that i never get lithiumflow on lmarena LOL, its almost impossible for me to get it

[keen beacon]

i have pro

but yeah, it is downgrade

[fervent tangle]

sora 2 pro was the original one, they just made it paid only

and called it (pro)

[stray aspen]

i got it first try on webdev arena lol

[fervent tangle]

ig webdev is my only hope to test it

[stray aspen]

yeah

[fervent tangle]

since battle mode has all models in it

[stray aspen]

its still so crushingly good there

[gusty helm]

I got it earlier in battle mode text

[covert falcon]

What is it men’s ? …..

[gusty helm]

took like 30 attempts

[covert falcon]

Bruh

[gusty helm]

also got orion x2

[fervent tangle]

i aint trying it with those odds.

[gusty helm]

I mean 😄 yeah I get it

[fleet lintel]

wow.. this is sooo good. Why are some folks saying that lithiumflow is not that good for coding?

[fervent tangle]

orion is like 3.0 flash i think

[gusty helm]

i actually think it's other way around

orion is pro and lithium flash

[fervent tangle]

is it?

[gusty helm]

i cant say for sure

[verbal nimbus]

It didn't seem that good at Tkinter... that's literally the simplest UI library there is

[gusty helm]

like i could test it so little

[fervent tangle]

idk people say that orionmist is not that good compared to lithiumflow

[gusty helm]

I asked it to build me minecraft in html

[pulsar saffron]

prompt

[gusty helm]

lithium had some bugs, orion nailed it

1st try

but then again this can be luck

[pulsar saffron]

show me

is it good

[fervent tangle]

cuz it's just an early testing model rn, and you cannot improve on it just with one-shot prompts

[verbal nimbus]

I actually got it twice on the same chat, and coincidentally orionmist too (although I voted the other model because I didn't realize it changed the execution method)

[fervent tangle]

i saw an x post, they made a good minecraft clone

it looks like early version of minecraft

where u can only build and destroy

[gusty helm]

better than most other models showed for 1 single prompt

i dont have the code anymore i cycled a lot trough them didnt save

[pulsar saffron]

Good

[gusty helm]

yes this ^

[fervent tangle]

which one was better in your opinion

[gusty helm]

can build/destroy move around jump. Some textures were off but not big deal

[verbal nimbus]

Hmm... hard to say... both were decent but didn't really implement what I asked for

[fervent tangle]

tbh you can definitely make a better minecraft with a few more prompts and debugging

[verbal nimbus]

Lithiumflow gave me a buggy input bar (defocuses after you type one character)

[gusty helm]

for sure; but my point was to compare them single promp vs claude for examle and vs gpt

claude did a decent job at it

[verbal nimbus]

I noticed Google models have this problem

like they always seem to create input boxes that defocus after you type a single character

[fervent tangle]

single prompt is not the best way to completely see the model's advantages, thats why i hate one-shots

[verbal nimbus]

idk if it's just coincidence though, since this is a completely separate UI framework

[tame pollen]

Hm

[gusty helm]

well 😄 i wasnt going in depth with how little exposure it has right now

[fervent tangle]

they implemented their bugged google prompt bars into the AI model LOL

[gusty helm]

kinda hoping for tomorrow to have some nice news tho, i think it may launch

[verbal nimbus]

I noticed that even AI Studio has this issue lol

[gusty helm]

this AI studio upgrade sets it up

[verbal nimbus]

like in native speech generation

it defocuses after you type a single character

[fervent tangle]

AI studio is so buggy on mobile

[verbal nimbus]

yeah I was on mobile

Funny that the same bug is showing everywhere google-related

[fervent tangle]

they cannot improve an AI model with their bugged data

[verbal nimbus]

Idk if it was coincidence that it happened in Tkinter

it's a completely different framework, shouldn't really be possible for the same bug to manifest

[fleet lintel]

got lithiumflow for this prompt... works pretty well.
But not sure if Claude 4.5 can do the same.. may be they can too?

[fervent tangle]

try it with 4.5 sonnet thinking 32k, its the best that claude has rn

[tame pollen]

Mann has anyone tried the new orionmist model? It's crazy

[verbal nimbus]

This was Lithiumflow on Tkinter

[fervent tangle]

thats what we're talking about

[verbal nimbus]

Well Lithiumflow -> some other models -> Orionmist -> some other models -> Lithiumflow, all in one chat.

[gusty helm]

i had them vs each other

[tame pollen]

but y'all never mentioned orionmist 🫠 I did spectate this chat for a while

[fervent tangle]

did u test it on webdev arena

[gusty helm]

claude was ok, but less complex

[verbal nimbus]

No, LMArena. It's Python (Tkinter GUI).

[fervent tangle]

try the webdev arena model

maybe it has more improvement somehow

[verbal nimbus]

I'm not sure if that's a good test, because React + Tailwind CSS is definitely what they're aiming for. imo it's better to test for generalization.

[tame pollen]

what's lithiumflow? New model?

[fervent tangle]

orionmist and lithiumflow are the new gemini 3 models

[tame pollen]

tf.

[fervent tangle]

i think orionmist is 3.0 preview and lithiumflow is 3.0 pro

[tame pollen]

so all this time I was using gemini 3.0 😭

how did I not notice this

[fervent tangle]

yh fr

[tame pollen]

but

When I asked about

Which company trained it

It said

Openai

[fervent tangle]

hmm

[pulsar saffron]

why i keep getting lithiumflow

[fervent tangle]

maybe it's tricking you

[verbal nimbus]

I heard rumors it's the coding model?

[fervent tangle]

lucky mf

[verbal nimbus]

People are saying the one that pops up in AI Studio is better

[tame pollen]

and Im getting orionmist from like the past 4 hours

[fervent tangle]

the problem is we can no longer use it on there

[verbal nimbus]

Someone told me they got it recently

[tame pollen]

Ouhh Google casually dropped another banger like veo3 and nano banana

[fervent tangle]

no way

[fervent tangle]

its gonna drop this month

[verbal nimbus]

Well it's A/B testing ig, might be random

[fervent tangle]

didnt they remove it 2 days ago

[verbal nimbus]

AI Studio?

[tame pollen]

Damn hope my gemini pro will make use of it

[verbal nimbus]

Not sure tbh

[fervent tangle]

yup i dont get A/B testing anymore

[stray aspen]

new lithiumflow result its pretty good https://3000-iguwxbqrl7dwqfa1ixa6y-6532622b.e2b-foxtrot.dev/

[fervent tangle]

its gonna be a huge month

[verbal nimbus]

Very snappy too

[tame pollen]

That's actually cool

[tame pollen]

Hope they give us veo4 soon

[verbal nimbus]

Nice transitions

[tame pollen]

[fervent tangle]

not bad, remember that your prompt complexity can also impact how well it performs

[fleet lintel]

grok is sooo immature.

[verbal nimbus]

It picked good fonts too

[stray aspen]

lmao

[fervent tangle]

lol, grok is not playing around

[verbal nimbus]

I wonder what happens if you keep feeding back images of the output (or video, since Gemini accepts those)

[fervent tangle]

tbh the model is gonna show its true powers in AI studio, with more tools and multiple chats

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah, hard to test without tool calling/ReAct loop

If it has strong vision capabilities, then maybe screenshots will help it improve a lot

[fervent tangle]

it definitely does

its one big multimodal release

[rare oxide]

K

[verbal nimbus]

And one day it'll probably be a world model too

[fervent tangle]

uh maybe in 2026

lol

[verbal nimbus]

It's part of their vision

They are aiming to have one general model that would perform better than specialized world models

[fervent tangle]

i think this is the last year for soft AI uses, 2026 is gonna change everything

with more computing, comes better models. just feed the machine

and dont worry about climate issues, the AGI will solve it LOL

[stray aspen]

made a little ac-130 game with lithiumflow

its pretty nice

[verbal nimbus]

Well we need ASI for that haha

[verbal nimbus]

Whoa that's really cool

Where are the enemies?

[fervent tangle]

lets hope we can reach it before we lose the computing resources to run it

[stray aspen]

its white dots

since thats how the ac-130 cameras work

[verbal nimbus]

Well Google said AlphaEvolve helped improve their TPU design

[stray aspen]

its thermal

[fervent tangle]

does it actually play? for a zero shot thats great

[stray aspen]

yeah

it shoots

[rare oxide]

!info

[verbal nimbus]

I wonder if it can improve the outlines, like zombies or smth

[fervent tangle]

maybe its the afghan war LOL

or modern warfare 2

[verbal nimbus]

Kinda funny that it's basically making a combat simulator 🤔

[fervent tangle]

i think it's on pair with early 2000s games

[stray aspen]

kimi k2 absolutely cooked

[fervent tangle]

lol thats too much for it's brain

[verbal nimbus]

I'm just thinking what happens if they allow it to control robots like how they extended Gemini 2.0 to control a robotic arm

Anyways, if AI can one day play games, what if someone tells it to play a combat game, except it isn't a combat game...

[fervent tangle]

its going to create the Gemini-AGI model and rule over the world

[fervent tangle]

it would be fun to see how AI performs in different games with zero idea on how it plays

[verbal nimbus]

Well they can already do that, but not LLMs

[fervent tangle]

imagine if they improve the gameplay and become the #1 speedrunner in like 30 mins of playing

[verbal nimbus]

An interesting thing I saw a while back was how they basically trained a model to control a character that responds to user input. Like it can walk, punch(?), etc.

I'm not sure if it was two separate papers, but basically it can trip over and get up, which is pretty funny.

[fervent tangle]

also I hope that google will release Genie 3 to the public, that would change everything

[verbal nimbus]

And leveling up is essentially a real process, since it's just the AI-controlled characters at different checkpoints. A high level character would beat a low level character in a fistfight with real physics.

[fervent tangle]

no other AI company has made anything near Genie 3, thats why Google wont release it

[fervent tangle]

tbh i would rather create AI games with Genie 3 rather than traditional coding

because it would take you months and possibly years to make a great AAA game with AI coding, Genie 3 would just generate the world for you

[verbal nimbus]

I wonder if multiplayer would be possible 🤔

[fervent tangle]

if you could save the game into the database and have an online app that runs the same saved worlds

the Genie AI experience

[cyan harbor]

lmarena down?

i cant generate

[verbal nimbus]

I suppose there could be a paper for a model that can generate the same world from multiple perspectives, at the same time.

[fervent tangle]

you mean like the same seed? AI already does that with image generation and video generation

[verbal nimbus]

More for multiplayer, since two players would need to see the same world, and the other player + their effects on the world.

[fervent tangle]

lmarena works for me rn

[cyan harbor]

i cant generate when i paste prompt it says something went wrong while generating the repsonse

[warm zodiac]

you're probably rate limited

or using a vpn

[cyan harbor]

its looping it

[cyan harbor]

nop

[echo aurora]

Can you add this information to the #1417174113092374689 post?

[fervent tangle]

clear your cache

[verbal nimbus]

What was the error?

[celest swallow]

Hi

[cyan harbor]

well look that charm it worked

[fervent tangle]

you gotta thank the wizard

@stray aspen can you test lithiumflow with a floppy bird game

cuz i cant seem to get it

nvm

i got lithiumflow finally

heres a floppy bird game

https://3000-ikfin1xercnk7oxskn013-6532622b.e2b-foxtrot.dev/

[verbal nimbus]

Disable ad blocker and try again

[cyan harbor]

it's fixed

[fervent tangle]

try the game i made

[verbal nimbus]

Oh I'm late lol

[fervent tangle]

lol lithiumflow made a good game just from my 5 word prompt

not bad

[fervent tangle]

opus 4.1 looks terrible

[verbal nimbus]

Cool design, but it's literally running at like 1000 FPS on my machine lol

[fervent tangle]

compared to the lithiumflow generation

[verbal nimbus]

It's dropping instantly

[fervent tangle]

its a mobile game since im on my phone rn

[fleet lintel]

this is like the hardest flappy bird ever... reached only 3 points

[fervent tangle]

you dont wanna see the opus 4.1 one

[verbal nimbus]

Tell it to update the position and velocity based on the time step ig

[fervent tangle]

it looks horrible and the tubes are too small for the bird

to fit in

[fervent tangle]

can u do more than one chat in webdev arena?

imma try it rn

[fervent tangle]

also the AI studio is better because it can generate music and perform way better than this lmarena model

sadly i cant get access to the A/B testing

[round basin]

Hi

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah

[verbal nimbus]

Maybe ask it to generate music

[fervent tangle]

bruh it broke the game with the second prompt u wanted me to ask

[verbal nimbus]

Oh, maybe it's only good for one-shot 🤔

Like it's not that hard to just measure the time between frames and just multiply by dt for the velocity/position update

[fervent tangle]

heres the "fixed" version

https://3000-izyienu6iolnl2j3jimtt-6532622b.e2b-foxtrot.dev/

maybe its gonna work for u

[verbal nimbus]

Broken

[fervent tangle]

yeah i gotta debug it

[verbal nimbus]

Well that's not promising lol

How can it write something so complex but mess up such a simple update

[fervent tangle]

thats AI debugging for ya

they can one-shot a game but they aint fixing nothing afterwards

[verbal nimbus]

That might indicate it's just overfitted on popular prompts but doesn't actually know what it's doing

[fervent tangle]

probably, atleast it actually made a playable game first try, unlike 4.1 opus

[pulsar saffron]

wtf

[fervent tangle]

dont worry it is actually a playable game

i broke it with my prompt

[fervent tangle]

https://3000-ikfin1xercnk7oxskn013-6532622b.e2b-foxtrot.dev/

play this one

its lithiumflow

[verbal nimbus]

Just encountered Orionmist, seems to fail at TikZ

[fervent tangle]

@verbal nimbus this generation is working fine for me now https://3000-i54k60h5t8psjuoifjx3o-6532622b.e2b-foxtrot.dev/

[verbal nimbus]

Even R1 can do this one

[fervent tangle]

i think orionmist is 3.0 flash or something

[verbal nimbus]

Gemini 2.5 Pro can do it

[fervent tangle]

yup its not the coding model

[verbal nimbus]

That's very good

[fervent tangle]

it works now?

[verbal nimbus]

The style is much better too

[fervent tangle]

wow it only took 2 more prompts

[fervent tangle]

yeah i made it fix the bugs finally

[fervent tangle]

im gonna risk it and prompt it to create music for it

its 90% gonna brick the game lol

[verbal nimbus]

Haha I was going to say that

[verbal nimbus]

Why's that?

shouldn't impact game logic

[fervent tangle]

cuz sometimes it just rewrites the whole game code for a simple change

thats why the style looks different

[verbal nimbus]

Uh oh

[fervent tangle]

each generation

[pulsar saffron]

would be funny if it could clone discord...

[verbal nimbus]

Ok I'm hoping it's not Gemini 2.5 Pro then

[fervent tangle]

i wouldn't trust this AI with my database lol

[verbal nimbus]

Best case scenario one is Flash and the other is Flash Lite

[fervent tangle]

lets hope so

[fervent tangle]

it could, but just the frontend

[verbal nimbus]

If that's actually Flash I'd be so impressed

[fervent tangle]

yeah, the pro model better be revolutionary

[verbal nimbus]

Assistant A seems to have gone into an infinite loop

[neat apex]

the biggest point of this september gemini flash update was, when using gemini flash with thinking for deep questions it used to spend more reasoning tokens than gemini pro, so it was none faster and barely cheaper than pro in samethings

Thats why i think they will not make an Pro 2.5 Sept version

[fervent tangle]

here's the music version lol https://3000-iytlhjfhel6k6i4sc6xbz-6532622b.e2b-foxtrot.dev/

it changed the bird again...

wtf

and i dont hear any music, it just made sound effects

nbm

nvm

@verbal nimbus ITS A FRICKING DEEP AMBIENT

lol

[verbal nimbus]

That's a pass to me

[verbal nimbus]

weird

[fervent tangle]

should i try to prompt it with a better style

or would that finally break the game

[verbal nimbus]

oh well, no harm in testing ig

[fervent tangle]

risk it for the biscuit

[verbal nimbus]

You can just save outputs you like

[fervent tangle]

yeah at this point it seems to be quite working well

[verbal nimbus]

If you ever want to run it you can ask Claude/ChatGPT/coding agent to put it into a self-contained HTML file.

[fervent tangle]

wydm

oh yeah, i can just copy the code

[verbal nimbus]

Well the file is just a single React component, if you want to run it you need either a React env like Vite, or put it all in one HTML file.

[fervent tangle]

does webdev arena only do react coding?

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah, although I got Claude to help me write a web extension that basically lets LMArena run any code.

[verbal nimbus]

React and TailwindCSS

[fervent tangle]

i wonder if it can generate a C# game engine

in release

[verbal nimbus]

Oh, no display output without going through the DOM though

[fervent tangle]

Try this one now https://3000-iclx8vkvnkaly9th80alh-6532622b.e2b-foxtrot.dev/

[verbal nimbus]

That's much better, it fixed the ground speed synchronization issue.

Did you tell it to turn the buildings into an equalizer visualization

or is it a bug lol

[fervent tangle]

nah i think it just made a bug

[verbal nimbus]

Can check its intention in the comments

[fervent tangle]

This is a heavily polished Batman-themed Flappy Bird clone called GothamFlapper. It features a multi-layered gothic background with parallax, animated rain and fog effects, and stylized pipes resembling gothic architecture. The Batman character has an animated cape that reacts to velocity, glowing eyes, and a subtle utility belt. The game includes screen shake on impact, flash effects on scoring, and smooth UI transitions. The procedural audio engine provides dark ambient drone music and fitting sound effects for flap, score, and hit events. The physics and game loop are time-step based for consistent gameplay. The UI includes a mute toggle and a stylish start/game over menu with animations. The entire game is styled with Tailwind CSS and uses React hooks for state and effects. The code is self-contained and designed for pages/index.tsx in a Next.js environment.

the output

@verbal nimbus also the game's performance seemed quite laggy on my phone now, so i told it to optimize the game properly and fix the background buildings bug

[verbal nimbus]

Oh I meant the comments in the code

[verbal nimbus]

Are you opening it in a new tab? Otherwise could just be the conversation getting long.

[verbal nimbus]

Ok that's kinda cool, I didn't know it invented a whole lore 🤣

[fervent tangle]

yeah, this is the newer "optimized and fixed" version https://3000-i2cy0vx7wikcqy0zxk9xd-6532622b.e2b-foxtrot.dev/

it runs well now on my phone

[pulsar saffron]

now it works much better wow

[verbal nimbus]

Ok that's good

Why did it add rain when you told it to optimize though, lol

Unless it was just bugged before

[fervent tangle]

BRO THE 4.1 OPUS IS CURSED

https://3000-imbhqp8zrgijo87cz4iq8-6532622b.e2b-foxtrot.dev/

[pulsar saffron]

the server is done

wtf its so laggyu

laggy

Help

[fervent tangle]

i will never call lithiumflow out anymore, COMPARED TO THIS ABOMINATION

4.1 opus sucks so bad

[pulsar saffron]

FR

[fervent tangle]

what did u test it with atp

[pulsar saffron]

it does do 3D games well

[pulsar saffron]

3d games

[fervent tangle]

i wanna make a doom clone but im on my phone rn

[verbal nimbus]

You can ignore the errors

This seems quite good too tbh

music and bird is better

[fervent tangle]

yeah the art is quite good

[fervent tangle]

how well does it perform on your pc

cuz its a laggy mess for me

[verbal nimbus]

Same

[fervent tangle]

maybe its replicating something that makes it lag so bad

[verbal nimbus]

The background is better I think

Like there are birds flying around

[fervent tangle]

try this improved version now https://3000-im54wjvgib4hhn9uifjji-6532622b.e2b-foxtrot.dev/

did it make the bird better

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah, but looks like the ground sync bug is back

ig it was actually the last edit that broke the ground synchronization

[verbal nimbus]

This feels more complete though

Opus feels more fancy, but less complete

[fervent tangle]

the ground always seemed like that for me even in the previous ones

i think it depends on your fps

[verbal nimbus]

This one seems to have momentarily fixed it

It should just be adding the same velocity to both the ground and the poles, odd

or maybe it forgot to add the dt term to the ground

[fervent tangle]

this is the latest opus iteration https://3000-ishvlouzqlfl10fdvkafu-6532622b.e2b-foxtrot.dev/

[verbal nimbus]

Lol that's worse than the previous

bugged rewards + no sound

[fervent tangle]

opus messed up now

lol

[verbal nimbus]

I think Lithiumflow wins here

[fervent tangle]

yeah it messed up cuz i told it to make it "optimized"

[static arch]

They said LMArena uses GPT-5 but when I asked it latest info it wont tell me and says its information is limited to 2024 LMAO

[verbal nimbus]

Encountered it again, this time it passed, although suspiciously well 🤔

[fervent tangle]

cuz the API doesn't update

[static arch]

so its useless then?

[verbal nimbus]

This is TikZ (Latex diagramming library), so very low chance of data contamination unlike SVGs

[fervent tangle]

if you want to use it for the latest info then use the chatgpt app

for daily questions

[fervent tangle]

so it tests the true AI powers

[fervent tangle]

Whats your prompt so I can test it on lithiumflow

[verbal nimbus]

I'm not sure anymore... this is Gemini Flash Lite 2.5

I don't think it should be possible for Flash Lite to get it unless there's data contamination 🤔

I think I gotta change my prompt/language

[verbal nimbus]

Since it fails on more basic spatial tasks, and even SOTA models don't do well on this...

[verbal nimbus]

It's this:

Can you give your best attempt at generating a gorgeous realistic beautiful dragon breathing blue flames in TikZ? Show the full dragon. Only use standard packages. Please, really try to put effort into it!

[fervent tangle]

alr imma test it

[verbal nimbus]

Old tests (I haven't added new prompt)

I mean, this was literally Gemini 2.5 Pro a few months ago:

I feel like there's some data contamination... Flash Lite would have no way of getting it lol

[fervent tangle]

also can you ask it to use specific libraries in Tikz?

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah, but you gotta install the packages, that's why I said standard packages

also they like to hallucinate non-existence packages

[fervent tangle]

so that doesn't work in LLMs?

[verbal nimbus]

wdym?

[fervent tangle]

can it install those packages if it doesn't have access to any tools?

[verbal nimbus]

No, it's only outputting code

Like SVGs ig, but less data contamination because who is drawing pictures in TikZ haha

[fervent tangle]

hmm yea, maybe in release we could use more features

[verbal nimbus]

Hmm... there's literally no way 2.5 flash lite could have got it

I know, I'll just switch the task a little

if it fails then it's data contamination

[floral comet]

Have you tried with the rumored gemini 3??

[fervent tangle]

thats what im trying to accomplish

[verbal nimbus]

Well that's slightly perplexing... this is 2.5 flash lite

It's supposed to be a cat on a potato

[fervent tangle]

looks like SVG to me

[verbal nimbus]

Maybe they trained it on TikZ (not bad ig)

This is the code (well, part of it)

[fervent tangle]

https://3000-icrbjdjpnakcj8gkn7b2s-6532622b.e2b-foxtrot.dev/

wtf is this

@verbal nimbus lithiumflow came up with this...

its on webdev arena btw

(react)

[floral comet]

Want me to test it on flagship models?

[fervent tangle]

sure

[verbal nimbus]

The code is not valid I think, missing imports and also error on line:

l.99 ...y=0.15, blur shadow={shadow blur steps=5}]

I'm not familiar with blur

Oh it's part of a missing import

Fixed it:

Hmm 🤔

[fervent tangle]

hmm looks better than orionmist

or 2.5 pro

[verbal nimbus]

Better than Orionmist

[fervent tangle]

i would rather test it with SVGs than TikZ

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah... although Gemini Flash Lite 2.5 did suspiciously well 🤔

[fervent tangle]

it would crush it with the same prompt

[verbal nimbus]

Consider that it's 2.5 + a small model

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah, but that's because there's a lot of SVGs in the training data

[verbal nimbus]

If you want, try this prompt: Can you give your best attempt at generating a gorgeous, delicious potato with a cute cat on top in TikZ? Only use standard packages. Please, really put effort into it!

This is Sonnet 4.5 Thinking:

[fervent tangle]

not bad

[verbal nimbus]

Better than I expected

But Anthropic does know about the test

[fervent tangle]

oh so they got some data of it

[verbal nimbus]

Although not this specific prompt that I just made up

[verbal nimbus]

Well not really data

coz no one is drawing this kind of stuff in TikZ xD

It's basically for maths diagrams

[fervent tangle]

why does the battle mode keep looping on the code, they never finish the TikZ...

i think TikZ in battlemode is cursed, only webdev arena gave me working results

[verbal nimbus]

Oh what... how did ChatGPT-4o get it

Maybe potato and cat is actually common

[fervent tangle]

imma try it on gpt5 high

[verbal nimbus]

Or have providers started training TikZ 🤔

or maybe there's a few TikZ potatoes on the internet

[fervent tangle]

can you do python games on webdev arena?

[verbal nimbus]

I'm just surprised because ChatGPT would not have been able to get it in January. Especially with shading lol

[fervent tangle]

or do I have to waste my time in battle mode trying to get lithiumflow

[fervent tangle]

thats gpt5 right?

[verbal nimbus]

No, 4o

[fervent tangle]

hmm thats good for 4o

[verbal nimbus]

This was back in feb I think

you can see how bad 4o was there

maybe "potato" is way too simple

[leaden sun]

@verbal nimbus can you try a few elemental geometry like torus, L-shaped cube, Klein-bottle?

[fervent tangle]

why is gpt5 high stuck on "generating" when I test it on that prompt

[verbal nimbus]

It might be good at that

Since it's basically a LaTeX diagramming language

[leaden sun]

try Klein-bottle, or Moebius ring

[fervent tangle]

nvm gpt5 high is now writing the code, after like 3 mins of thinking

[verbal nimbus]

I am increasing the difficulty:

Can you give your best attempt at generating a cute cat on top of an Boeing 747-800 in TikZ? Only use standard packages. Please, really put effort into it!

[verbal nimbus]

That might be a bit unfair lol

I mean one is literally a 4D object 🤣

[undone saffron]

I really like your profile pic

[verbal nimbus]

Thanks, AI generated

haha

[undone saffron]

Yes, I know

[verbal nimbus]

Bing AI

like 2 years ago

[undone saffron]

Do you still have it?

[verbal nimbus]

Probably not

[leaden sun]

i wanted to see, please 😆

just for fun

[verbal nimbus]

What the....

[fervent tangle]

GPT5 high result

[leaden sun]

instead of Boeing, you could also have asked " a cat on a flying saucer"

[verbal nimbus]

That's actually crazy good by LLM standards

[fervent tangle]

damn gpt5 high sucks at this

this is the dragon btw

[verbal nimbus]

It's not loading argh

[verbal nimbus]

fly*

[fervent tangle]

yeah looks like a mutated fly

[verbal nimbus]

Omg the perfect battle @fervent tangle

Lithiumflow had a compile issue

[verbal nimbus]

This was Opus 4.1 Thinking

[fervent tangle]

i never get those 2 in lmarena battlemode lol

only the bad models

[fervent tangle]

did lithiumflow fail at the test?

[verbal nimbus]

I'm going to try and make Lithiumflow's code work

yup

[fervent tangle]

damn

what a shame

[fervent tangle]

but it didnt fail on webdev arena for me

[verbal nimbus]

The clouds in the background by Opus is just it showing off atp

[fervent tangle]

yeah opus is very creative

[verbal nimbus]

It's actually notoriously hard to draw anything in TikZ

[fervent tangle]

i hate the cloudflare verification when you try to vote each battle session

OH BOY

I GOT LITHIUMFLOW VS 2.5 FLASH

lemme try the code

[verbal nimbus]

Like it's usually just stuff like this

[fervent tangle]

here's lithiumflow

btw i cropped the image since its on pdf

[undone saffron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/858135822389346344/8723e7d4d37313856bc0b022256e1f87.webp?size=4096

[verbal nimbus]

Ah you can probably get an AI to upscale it too haha

[undone saffron]

Yes, I was thinking on it

[robust yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/biden-debate-president-presidential-debate-wtf-gif-4127151492472228747

[fervent tangle]

lithiumflow vs gpt5 high

imma try 4.5 sonnet next

[robust yoke]

Right:

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-cat-mocking-gif-13935821400850516732

Left:

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[fervent tangle]

absolute cinema

[robust yoke]

Truly.

[dim basin]

what is better atlas or comet

[fervent tangle]

firefox

[dim basin]

okay let me rephrase, whats better for doing tasks without you doing anything, atlas or comet

complex tasks*

[verbal nimbus]

Fixed Lithiumflow code. Errors were incorrect color names and wrong imports.

This is even better I think

[fervent tangle]

far better than opus

[verbal nimbus]

Too bad the basic coding errors made it lose

[fervent tangle]

the boeing is good

[leaden sun]

heart-shaped clouds, thats cute

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah

[verbal nimbus]

Not SVG but TikZ too

[leaden sun]

time for Klein-bottle and Moebius ring xD

[verbal nimbus]

I should find an even harder library then TikZ

Coz TikZ was kinda popularized by the Microsoft paper, and I'm kinda suspicious with how well 2.5 Flash Lite did

[verbal nimbus]

Oh I'll try that

[dim basin]

is perplexcity on LMArena?

[verbal nimbus]

The mountain got split in half somehow but it's alright

[fervent tangle]

GLSL/WebGL Shaders (Probably #1 hardest)

4.5 sonnet output

idk if its true

[verbal nimbus]

Their sonar model is

If you enable web search on bottom left of input box

[verbal nimbus]

Easy I think

[dim basin]

alr i just wanted to know, is perplexcity good with complex tasks?

[verbal nimbus]

tons of training data

[dim basin]

like can perplexcity compare with gpt 5

[dim basin]

wdym?

[verbal nimbus]

you'd want things where there's 0 chance of there being an example on the internet

[dim basin]

what?

[verbal nimbus]

OpenGL has a ton of examples

[dim basin]

whats openGL

[verbal nimbus]

I was replying to Forton haha

[dim basin]

oh my fault

do you know if perplexcity can compare with gpt-5?

better or worse?

[verbal nimbus]

Opus 4.1 Thinking (maybe this is a good test since the model is messing up)

[verbal nimbus]

You can use GPT-5 in perplexity

Sonar (or whatever the Pro model is) is inferior imo (Deep Research result contradicts GPT-5 Thinking)

[fervent tangle]

lithiumflow better win this

[lavish orbit]

Hello everyone

[fervent tangle]

i got orionmist for the webgl test

[undone saffron]

Well, I can remake that paint in IRL
Nothing that can't be done, I just need to buy the paints

🖌️🎨🖼️

[fervent tangle]

@verbal nimbus uh this isnt working for me

[verbal nimbus]

Black screen for me too

[leaden sun]

hm.. it's a good start... 😅

[verbal nimbus]

I'm trying the Mobius loop but it hit a computation limit (no idea what it's doing lol)

omg why does it need 5 packages just to run the short mobius loop code

[fervent tangle]

ah the same code looping i had earlier

[verbal nimbus]

This is a good test, it's getting stuck (Opus)

[fervent tangle]

is 4.5 sonnet better than 4.1 opus in coding?

[verbal nimbus]

Well, it is a Mobius loop...

[leaden sun]

another hard test would be to turn a donut into a coffee mug, ask the model to draw the transition phase in 3 stages

in case you're wondering, it's called homotopy invariance

[verbal nimbus]

It wrote a whole document on it 💀

[elder burrow]

yall why r u doing pdfs?

[elder burrow]

just do svgs

[verbal nimbus]

It's LaTeX

[elder burrow]

o

ohh

yea

btw

have u tested stenanography

[verbal nimbus]

The main goal is to prevent data contamination by testing it on unseen unexamples, and in a library no one would draw stuff in

[elder burrow]

mb

i meant

[fervent tangle]

battlemode is pain

when is this model gonna release

[verbal nimbus]

Hmm I wonder if it can animate that

[fervent tangle]

and why do mysterious models only appear in lmarena

[verbal nimbus]

Sounds cool

[elder burrow]

steganography

pls

test it

[verbal nimbus]

What are humans equivalent to

[elder burrow]

@verbal nimbus https://textintext.on.websim.com

[warm zodiac]

depends on how many orifices you count as holes

[leaden sun]

there are animation packages within latex i believe, i forgot the names, but you can ask the model to draw the transitioning phase in 3 pictures

[ashen mauve]

this is getting sad i cant even use claude right now

[verbal nimbus]

Ok that's crazy cool

[fervent tangle]

why would u test AI with that

[elder burrow]

lithiumflow and orionmist used to be the only models to get simple sentences out of this (and consistently) but I've been testing the same prompt and they are hallucinating so looks like they were heavily nerfed

[elder burrow]

its incredibly difficult for em

[fervent tangle]

ah sheeit

why do models get nerfed

[verbal nimbus]

😀󠅇󠅟󠅧󠄐󠅤

[verbal nimbus]

@elder burrow Can you read this?

[elder burrow]

this is the prompt

[elder burrow]

"wow t"

did ya copy it correctly

[verbal nimbus]

😀󠅇󠅟󠅧󠄐󠅤

[fervent tangle]

does yapp.ai have lithiumflow

or orionmist

[verbal nimbus]

You're testing whether it can read it?

[elder burrow]

hmm, still says "wow t"

[elder burrow]

yes

it was able to read 2 words from an encoded sentence

consistently

[verbal nimbus]

I can't believe I've never heard about this before

But perhaps it depends on the software/platform?

[elder burrow]

both models got the same 2 words right which is interestin

[verbal nimbus]

Or the tokenizer I suppose

[elder burrow]

a​‌‌​‌​​​​‌‌​​‌​‌​‌‌​‌‌​​​‌‌​‌‌​​​‌‌​‌‌‌‌​​‌​​​​​​​‌‌‌​‌​​​‌​‌​​‌‍bc 123

decode that

[verbal nimbus]

Hmm...

[elder burrow]

whaat

rightclick my message > copy text

[verbal nimbus]

I gotta read up how this works

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah I did that

[ashen mauve]

it works by working

👍

[verbal nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[indigo cliff]

Hi, I'm in

[elder burrow]

😀󠅘󠅕󠅜󠅜󠅟

[verbal nimbus]

Did you manage to fix this?

[verbal nimbus]

Whoa windy

Kinda cool that the shadows and the sun glare adjusts

[undone saffron]

I will buy a screen frame and put that video in it

Joke, I'm not crazy

[verbal nimbus]

Actually I think that can be a product

[verbal nimbus]

AI generated photo frame

that changes so slightly you can never see it changing but it changes

[undone saffron]

Yeah

[verbal nimbus]

Solar flare

[undone saffron]

What global warming does

[verbal nimbus]

That's what happens when I sweep the sun too much

[sullen quest]

so true

[verbal nimbus]

Lol I think I figured out why it isn't working...

[verbal nimbus]

It basically commented out the entire block inside the script... 😑

[sullen quest]

which do you prefer?

[sullen quest]

why would it do that

[verbal nimbus]

This one is much cooler

[fervent tangle]

damn, is it gonna run

[sullen quest]

what do you think?

[verbal nimbus]

"Boilerplate and helpers" idk if it included the full code

Is it Gemini

[fervent tangle]

its orionmist bruh

[verbal nimbus]

Gemini 2.5 Pro has this weird problem in Gemini app where it forgets how to write new lines sometimes