general

[jovial sapphire]

Opus 4.1 result is very bad, unplayable

It is amazing truly

I love the game

You can improve towers, overclock them

[pulsar saffron]

gemini 3 even handled like 4k lines of code

on one shot

[jovial sapphire]

No but seriously

Play the game real

I'll upload it

[fiery gull]

grok 5 ?

[jovial sapphire]

No, Gemini 3

It made a game that is truly fun to play

[pulsar saffron]

also what stops you to give this game more update

[fiery gull]

where the game?

[jovial sapphire]

https://codepen.io/Kross-the-scripter/pen/emJVRyx

You buy towers, you put them on the map

Click start wave and you have to defend your core

When you click on your towers, you can improve them

There are bosses also

Goal is to avoid ennemies going there

[pulsar saffron]

Omg

[jovial sapphire]

When a tower is destroyed

There is smoke

Hahahahaha

And it explodes

[keen beacon]

so like Bloons Tower Defense?

[jovial sapphire]

Click on one tower and improve it

[pulsar saffron]

did you know you can still update that game

[jovial sapphire]

I'm a dev yes I know :p

I'm just having fun

[jovial sapphire]

Don't know the game but probably!!

Try it

[polar niche]

This aint good

[jovial sapphire]

.

[polar niche]

Its shooting at nothing

[jovial sapphire]

What?

[polar niche]

Its so broken

[jovial sapphire]

Click on Start wave

[pulsar saffron]

oh okay good to see here who isn't a vibe-coder but yes this is impressive tbh

[jovial sapphire]

It is not lmao

[pulsar saffron]

its working for me wdym

[jovial sapphire]

It's working for me too

[polar niche]

Reboot doesn't work

[jovial sapphire]

Only for you then it works good for me

I've been playing this for like 30 minutes lmaooo

[jovial sapphire]

Isn't it good?!

Oh yeah reboot doesn't work indeed

But just replay

like refresh

it's not because it's badly coded

it's because of codepen

[fiery gull]

the gemini 3 made this game in a just one message?

[polar niche]

Can you update it, the game goes too fast

And cant get trough wave 2

[jovial sapphire]

Yes

[jovial sapphire]

I am at wave 14

Click on your towers

and you can inject them to make them more powerful

[polar niche]

Yeah no

[pulsar saffron]

yeah you are doomed

[jovial sapphire]

bro

you placed

one mortar

[polar niche]

Mortar is too slow and has no damage

[jovial sapphire]

yes

place gatling

[polar niche]

I tried with only gatling full power

[jovial sapphire]

a lot of them

[polar niche]

Still died

[jovial sapphire]

skill issue xddd

[keen beacon]

real

[polar niche]

How dude

What skill LOL

Its the games fault that it cant kill them

[keen beacon]

brotato chop has never played a single tower defense game 😭

[jovial sapphire]

Start like this

Boom all dead

Next wave

Wave 3

Also you can boost them

[fiery gull]

brooooooooo wthhhhh

steam?? this simbol

hell nah bro

I don't want to be banned

[polar niche]

Black balls too op lmao

[jovial sapphire]

wait until you get

Tesla

it's super easy to beat them

[jovial sapphire]

what?

[fiery gull]

serious you don't seeing something ? 🤣

[jovial sapphire]

No?

What are you on

[pulsar saffron]

what

[pulsar saffron]

i'm so confused

[fiery gull]

can I dm?

[pulsar saffron]

oh i see it now nevermind

[jovial sapphire]

youre the one who thinks about that

yeah but

its unrelated

lmaoo

but yeah

funny

[fiery gull]

you know

[jovial sapphire]

nice one mamilex

xd

[fiery gull]

but if pineapple see the same thing we are cooked 😭

[jovial sapphire]

nahhh

bro it's an ai generated game

there is nothing weird lol

Trying a new game now!

[polar niche]

Cuphead style game

You didn't make that yet

[fiery gull]

I think the cuphead is soo much for gemini 3.0

[sonic halo]

Hello, I'm here for VideoArena

[fiery gull]

#1397655624103493813

[fleet lintel]

this game is hard.. but super impressive

[jovial sapphire]

Okay I'll try

It made this lol

It's just a boss battle

[echo sinew]

I saw it. You're in trouble now. @jovial sapphire too.

[jovial sapphire]

Noooooo!!!! 😂

[jovial sapphire]

What do you think about the game

[echo sinew]

Well, I think that's pretty impressive. You guys are good. Nice jobs in there.

[fiery gull]

better that I thought

[jovial sapphire]

The thing is, all of this is one shot

If you provide it with textures

.png

[cedar tide]

This community is dead

[jovial sapphire]

Nah it's not

[fiery gull]

nope, the qwen discord yep ;-;

deepseek too ;-;

[cedar tide]

they were never born

The dev mode "legit" community is the real lm arena community 😶

[feral veldt]

Someone can share the url for using lithiumflow?

[empty stump]

lmarena.ai

[jovial sapphire]

battle mode

then it's random

[balmy mist]

damn wat happened?

[cedar tide]

Add image to have a lot more or LithiumFlow

[jovial sapphire]

tysm!

[lime coral]

https://x.com/helalibillel/status/1980115394716381480?s=46

Billel Helali (@HelaliBillel)

Got that "frisson" moment. Wow.

I've been playing around with Gemini 3.0 (aka LithiumFlow) and... just wow.

Look, I thought Claude 4.5 Sonnet had the best UI and experience, hands down. It was the state of the art, the one to beat. Clean, smart, a joy to use.
But this is

X · Oct 20, 2025, 3:34 AM

[elder burrow]

@fiery gull @jovial sapphire created "people playground" physics sandbox in 1 shot single html file with lithium flow

try it out yall

lol

[jovial sapphire]

It did a cuphead style game and it's quite funny

Nailed it on the cup head charachter!

[elder burrow]

have yall tried it?

😅

it has ragdolls with blood on impact

[bleak delta]

hi mans can someone tell me in DM how can i create scary story for tiktok??

[jovial sapphire]

trying now

it doesnt have any blood splash

[bleak delta]

And how can i create prompt profesionaly i have google gemini pro

[jovial sapphire]

?!

[elder burrow]

weym

wdym

it does

[jovial sapphire]

nah

[elder burrow]

fling the ragdolls on the walls

[jovial sapphire]

doesnt work with mouse

on pc

[elder burrow]

it does https://api.websim.com/blobs/019a037d-c96d-7729-9fc5-015cd3fae01c.html

[jovial sapphire]

not on pc

i cant move the ragdolls

by cllicking

[elder burrow]

did you select PC

[jovial sapphire]

yes

its broken

[elder burrow]

u need to drag it

oh idk

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[elder burrow]

:/

[hexed quail]

hello

[stray aspen]

How is veo 3.1 on top

It's definitely not better than sora 2

[magic stag]

go to sora 2 website

and look at most recently generated

the quality is severely degraded from when it first came out

its not terrible but its by no means as realistic as launch

the physics stand out the most

[jovial sapphire]

@echo aurora hi

i have a question

when i hit this

retry button

is it the same model that is used?

[echo aurora]

[magic stag]

https://sora.chatgpt.com/p/s_68f6acd380788191b301485853f831fc

[echo aurora]

Yeah, I believe so

[jovial sapphire]

okay ty!

[echo aurora]

[tulip tree]

@echo aurora

[echo aurora]

[tulip tree]

Do you have free Sora codes

@jovial sapphire

@magic stag

[jovial sapphire]

yup

i have one for you

wait

[magic stag]

like tell me this looks real at all

lol

[jovial sapphire]

come dms @tulip tree

[tulip tree]

Ok

[jovial sapphire]

sent you a code

[magic stag]

in fact

[jovial sapphire]

tell me if its working here plz

[magic stag]

she climbs THROUGH the barrel of the tank turret

if you watch closely

like phases literally through it

lol

@stray aspen

LOL

[magic stag]

10/10 physics

[jovial sapphire]

did the code work?

[fiery gull]

the click mouse don't work ;-;

[red sluice]

💀

1365>1368

[undone saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-balanced-gif-3226445978144001245

[hollow ivy]

awesome work!

-# ||The purpose of life is: to have fun, play games, create games, share games, discover awesome stuff ^^ ||

2026 shapes up to become the most awesome year we ever had

AI will probably also become cheaper because of increased competition.

[fiery gull]

damn, my new notebook is soo good
I need to talk it to stranges :3

[fiery gull]

sora 2 don't have so many vote to say if is 1 or 2 or 3, but the lmarena talk 1 🙃

I try to defend lmarena but is hard lol

[sullen quest]

they aren't even making any money now, how would most of these companies surivive price cuts?

[fiery gull]

AI ever is an investor gap

I think nobody LLM make real profits

[hollow ivy]

easy: as soon as we have AGI, we enslave robots to do our work so that we have a post-scarcity economy :)

in 5 years it might happen, right?

[polar niche]

I don't think we'll need any programmers anymore

In the next 100 years

[sullen quest]

a post scarcity economy is a lot scarier than it sounds paws

[polar niche]

Or website makers

[sullen quest]

so truee

[hollow ivy]

a futuristic StarTrek economy doesn't need money

ok, it might take a little longer than 5 years..

because there's this issue with the climate and stuff (migration, crop failures, etc)

[polar niche]

Our future is gonna be so good

[dawn wharf]

can you PLEASE for the love of god change it so it doesn't pick image generation automatically when attaching image🥀

who decided this was a good idea

[hollow ivy]

if we manage to get an aligned AGI, yeah

(that's quite a big if)

[sullen quest]

put that in feature requests

[polar niche]

Fr

I hate that so much

[polar niche]

Could happen really fast

[hollow ivy]

with an algorithmic breakthrough, maybe

[valid bronze]

NEW HERE TO LEARN THANKS FOR ACCEPTING MY INVITE

[sullen quest]

so your definition of agi include the idea that is conscious or conscious adjacent?

[hollow ivy]

an AGI is, if put in a suitable robot chassis (android), able to do (almost) everything a human can

[sullen quest]

This is a weird definition of agi

so like for example, drive a car?

[hollow ivy]

it can do everything, except of the biological stuff (eg. eating/breathing/drinking is not necessary)

[sullen quest]

yeah that definiton could only really happen with continual learning

also like if you want to get robots to do most tasks, there's a lot more efficient ways to do that then make a single robot to do those tasks

[balmy mist]

https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1980198302726373779

Chubby♨️ (@kimmonismus)

3 ships? Three ships? I don't want to overinterpret, but it seems to point strongly to Gemini 3 when Logan cryptically says “shipped” again.

X · Oct 20, 2025, 9:04 AM

[hollow ivy]

yeah, specialized robots are often better
but, to found an off-world colony for us, androids are a good form-factor

[balmy mist]

does this mean gemini 3 wed?

[sullen quest]

twitter analysis is the worst

[sullen quest]

uh, not to be a drag, but thats not gonna happen any time soon

the off world colony thing

[hollow ivy]

next century it will happen

on mars

[sullen quest]

that means gemini 3 boat acutally

[sullen quest]

doubt

[hollow ivy]

and after 2030, on the moon

[balmy mist]

yeah i think its coming this week 🙂

[hollow ivy]

actually, i think it'll happen (much) earlier

[sullen quest]

Well I'm glad you are such an optimist

but no

[sullen quest]

yeah thats the main problem with this

[hollow ivy]

2200 might be too late, because of accelerating climate change :/

(Venus hothouse scenario long-term)

[sullen quest]

...

there's zero universes where colonizing mars is easier then fixing climate change

but hey, ai is accelerating climate change so maybe its the exact opposite of a solution

[warm zodiac]

yeah we could literally spend a few hundred billion a year to keep temps extremely stable through lower stratosphere aerosol injection

like totally tractable problem

imo

[hollow ivy]

or.. we build arrays of mirrors

on the ground/ocean

[jovial sapphire]

tysm! its a very fun game

it's the first time ai made a game that was enjoyable

i spent more than 30m on it

[dawn wharf]

or beat a videogame that doesn't exist in its training set. Models now can't even beat 10% of a very well known game.

[jovial sapphire]

if u guys have other game ideas

tell me

[sullen quest]

to accelerate climate change?

[polar niche]

How many prompts did it take

[hollow ivy]

no to reflect solar energy back into space (https://www.meer.org/)

[jovial sapphire]

one

[warm zodiac]

yeah but you get multiples in terms of radiative forcing / $ from sulphur

[jovial sapphire]

it's one shot

[sullen quest]

a hundred few billion per year is a lot of money

[polar niche]

on webdev arena?

[warm zodiac]

indeed

that a pretty high estimate

[sullen quest]

very useful

[warm zodiac]

and cost curves would likely be pretty easy to move along

[polar niche]

What was the prompt

[warm zodiac]

my point is that it doesn't (relatively) cost that much to save the world if we discovered the world was in an Earth-ending positive feedback loop

[hollow ivy]

maybe increased water vaporization leads to more clouds worldwide, which also increases the reflection, so that we have a cooling effect?

"global dimming effect"

[sullen quest]

find me a few hundred billion per year and we are talking

[verbal nimbus]

I can't even spot it lmao

Oh no... 🤖

[warm zodiac]

im saying we'd find it if the world was actually in a death spiral positive feedback loop

like trivially really

[sullen quest]

you have a weird definition of trivially

[warm zodiac]

wdym

[verbal nimbus]

It's actually a negative feedback loop (I forgot the name, but it's an actual thing in ecology). Negative as in it spirals out of control due to outgassing of methane.

[warm zodiac]

that's positive feedback

[sullen quest]

find me a few hundred billion per year right now that I can spend on fixing the planet

[warm zodiac]

you can't because the world is not actually ending

we're going to see like slightly higher costs of food, disaster spending, etc than a counterfactual world

scratch that really

[verbal nimbus]

https://earthscience.stackexchange.com/questions/13396/in-the-past-why-did-the-levels-of-individual-greenhouse-gases-rise-and-fall-at

[warm zodiac]

we are spending like over a trillion a year

[sullen quest]

from what I've heard, that would cost even more money than the other guy's idea

?

on what

[warm zodiac]

various climate initiatives

[verbal nimbus]

I was actually the question asker 8 years ago lol, before I deleted stackechange account

[warm zodiac]

even more if you count lost growth from a variety of environmental regulation

[obsidian cargo]

I tried the 1 black pixel upload trick and gpt-5 chat hallucinated an entire image ehehe

[warm zodiac]

not saying its bad, but we clearly are spending significantly on climate + environment

[sullen quest]

wow you've grown so much

[sullen quest]

1 source, 2 if that was the case, why wouldn't we just allocate some of that 1 trill to do the other plan if that works

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah, basically, as seen in ice core samples, the greenhouse gases move together

[warm zodiac]

pretty much because people find stratospheric aerosol injection icky

[verbal nimbus]

When you increase one, it leads to a feedback loop that causes an increase in all the others

(water vapor is a greenhouse gas too)

[warm zodiac]

https://www.climatepolicyinitiative.org/press-release/global-climate-finance-hits-1-9-trillion-bridging-the-climate-investment-gap-remains-within-reach/

[hollow ivy]

there is another way: weathering
you would spray stone dust on fields which would bind CO2, as i understand it

but you need huge areas to have an effect

[jovial sapphire]

https://codepen.io/Kross-the-scripter/pen/WbrMZPR

truly amazing

gemini 3 is very good at frontend

[sullen quest]

well I'm glad they are using ai to write their articles

[warm zodiac]

the cool thing about SAI is you basically use the same radiative forcing multiplier principle that causes climate change in the first place, it's around 1 gram of SO2 -> 1 ton of CO2

[warm zodiac]

office workers love slopifying their articles

most people don't notice it haha

[sullen quest]

well I do and I hate it

[verbal nimbus]

1 gram SO2 leads to 1 ton of CO2? That's pretty crazy

Actually hard to visualize a ton of CO2

Because it's usually gaseous

[warm zodiac]

offsets the warming

if you put it in the stratosphere

[verbal nimbus]

Hmm... It'll fall back down though

It's basically acid rain

[sullen quest]

oooh acid rain

sounds metal

[warm zodiac]

yeah the cool thing about stratospheric SO2 is you need so little that you wouldn't get appreciable acidification

and it has a residence time of about a year

its a half life really but you get the point

[sullen quest]

I just checked the report and most of the money was spent on making more effiecent energy systems or making new energy systems like solar panels, which isn't really the same thing.

If I buy a solar panel to run a server farm by no means did I decrease co2 levels and by no means did I do that for climate reasons

[warm zodiac]

agreed, but you must admit that the opportunity costs we are imposing on ourselves are higher than 200 billion?

especially if you include environmental regulation generally

[sullen quest]

yeah

[sullen quest]

enviromental regulation generally saves more money than it loses

[obsidian cargo]

huh just had mistral of all models do better than orionmist

[warm zodiac]

SAME

[obsidian cargo]

the orionmist output was far too terse and offered no real feedback

[sullen quest]

at what task

[warm zodiac]

yep exact same thing happened to me, way too short

[obsidian cargo]

I posted a series bible for a story idea

[verbal nimbus]

That's an interesting trade-off 🤔

If it works ig

[sullen quest]

yeah I wouldn't reccommend either orionmist or lithium for story reasons

[obsidian cargo]

lithiumflow isn't bad for story stuff, I wouldn't pick it over gemini 2.5 pro though

[jovial sapphire]

They focus on coding mainly

At least that's what the improvements show

[polar niche]

so if its gemini 3.0 you'd pick 2.5 pro instead

[sullen quest]

yep

[obsidian cargo]

yes

which is why I don't think it's gemini 3.0

or if it is, it's gemini 3.0 flash or something

[sullen quest]

that or google decided it doesn't care about creative writing

[obsidian cargo]

that'd be sad

[hollow ivy]

which version/size of mistral?

[obsidian cargo]

didn't check tbh, and I already deleted the chat

[verbal nimbus]

So basically aligns with phantom experience?

That would be the optimistic outlook ig

[hollow ivy]

what about the others?
deepseek, GLM, Qwen for roleplaying/creative writing

and Kimi K2, and the new Ocean AI models

[obsidian cargo]

I don't remember phantom

I kinda fell in love with gemini 2.5 pro a bit late tbh

[verbal nimbus]

Well DeepSeek is basically trained on Gemini 2.5 and ChatGPT, just by word distributions

And GLM on Gemini 2.5 Pro

And Kimi on o3

[hollow ivy]

and Ernie?

[obsidian cargo]

I was using deepseek for creative writing until I realized gemini 2.5 pro was way better

I started to get disillusioned with deepseek around 3.2

[sullen quest]

mmm

[verbal nimbus]

Not sure

[verbal nimbus]

It's kind of funny, because GLM is closer to Gemini 2.5 Pro than Orion/Lithium is when you look at the word distributions

[hollow ivy]

which tool do you use for that?

[verbal nimbus]

Slop forensics by Sam Peach

But modified slightly for smaller sampler sizes from manual inputs

He uses Jaccard similarity as the similarity measure over the word frequencies and ngrams

[hollow ivy]

wow, sounds pretty scientific

[verbal nimbus]

Oh it's just ML 101 😝

Similarity metrics

[hollow ivy]

what was the longest RPG you ever had with gemini 2.5 pro?

(if i may ask)

[verbal nimbus]

RPG?

[hollow ivy]

roleplaying game

or sandbox adventure

[verbal nimbus]

Ah idk I use it for explaining STEM concepts and for large context

[hollow ivy]

science/technology/engineering/mathematics?

[verbal nimbus]

I'm not sure I'd use it for writing, it's pretty easy to tell it's Gemini, at least from simple analysis methods

[hollow ivy]

(in europe this abbreviation is not as common)

[verbal nimbus]

Ah yeah

[verbal nimbus]

Interesting

[hollow ivy]

*continental europe

so gemini 2.5 pro is currently the best model for RPG/creative writing?
but mistral is second now?

[verbal nimbus]

It's funny because Europe and Asia are on the same continental plate

[sullen quest]

??

[hollow ivy]

it seems so, but the indian plate is crushing forward into it

[obsidian cargo]

IMO yes

[verbal nimbus]

Idk, I don't think it's at the top of EQBench for creative writing

[obsidian cargo]

mistral is definitely not second best though

[verbal nimbus]

I don't really have the mental power to test LLMs at creative writing... Too much reading xD

Which is why I'm surprised that creative writing has a high discrimination factor

[hollow ivy]

what about qwen?

[maiden crest]

Hi Pros, I am curious if there is a way to generate videos without anyone voting on it. I'm really an amateur at this that's why I want it to keep it private

[verbal nimbus]

To me it's much easier to tell models apart with technical stuff

[sullen quest]

wdym

of course its easier to tell the diff with creative writing

[verbal nimbus]

Is it? Not really...

[hollow ivy]

is it (Mistral) best?

[sullen quest]

use grok image or get a sora account

[verbal nimbus]

That's why RLVR (reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards) uses maths/coding

[verbal nimbus]

(to me at least)

[maiden crest]

is this image to video ? I'm really sorry, i might have a couple of questions if you dont mind

[sullen quest]

most ai companies are focusing on stuff like programming, which means they are gonna be more optimised for that and devations from "what is good" are gonna be corrected, there's not even a definite good in creative writing and because its not as important ai's will naturally devate

[verbal nimbus]

Or do you mean tell the diff like distinguishing which model is which?

[obsidian cargo]

I don't know where I'd rank Mistral but I doubt it'd make my top 5

[sullen quest]

grok's is

[sullen quest]

yeah

[verbal nimbus]

Oh I meant more in terms of judging intelligence

[maiden crest]

where exactly I can't find it. I'm really sorry for noob questions.

[verbal nimbus]

That's a good point too... easier to benchmax on maths/code

[sullen quest]

ah ok

[sullen quest]

https://grok.com/imagine

has unlimited

but not the best

probably will improve over time tho

[verbal nimbus]

Ig it's good for stuff like common sense

[maiden crest]

Thank you, I'll check it right now. While Haiku 4.5 is currently down for me

[verbal nimbus]

I had a few tests where I asked it to complete writing examples where I inserted a bizarre situation to see if the model could detect it when I told it to finish the paragraph

[hollow ivy]

ah i forgot Grok4 as option, sorry

[sullen quest]

I don't think there's a great answer for this yet, you might want to try figuring out yourself

[sullen quest]

tho I do know claude isn't the one you are looking for

[verbal nimbus]

4.5 recently scored at the top of EQBench's creative writing benchmark

Both long and short form

[sullen quest]

rlly?

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah

[jovial sapphire]

sunsweeper

[hollow ivy]

will opus-4.5 have much longer context?

[jovial sapphire]

do you have any other hard prompts?

[verbal nimbus]

That's the benchmark with the model similarities dendrogram

[sullen quest]

oh I see why

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah I'm going to test one out where only GPT-5 High gets it right

Was from a phd pharmacology student (I think?)

But it shouldn't be that hard for someone in that field

[maiden crest]

@sullen quest Hi Sir, I found grok and looks interesting. I'm also curious about Sora. How do I try it?

[verbal nimbus]

Just that all models failed to identify a fatal combination of drugs 💀

[sullen quest]

that bench uses sonnet 4 as a judge

[verbal nimbus]

GPT-5 High got it as a hint

[sullen quest]

well you need a sora 2 code, I don't have one, try going on openAI's discord and asking for one

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah but they test other judges too (Judgemark), can see how they scored Claude (usually order is same for top judges)

[jovial sapphire]

can you send me it?

i'll try it on gemini 3

[maiden crest]

I see, Thank you for the info. ❤️

[hollow ivy]

AI judges… that reminds me of Buck Rogers in the 25th century with a certain "dr. Theopolis" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_Rogers_in_the_25th_Century_(TV_series))

an AI, the only one which believed Buck to come from the past

[verbal nimbus]

Ok will DM

It's not a secret or anything

[hollow ivy]

and Twiggy (was a fun series)

[jovial sapphire]

okay!!

[sullen quest]

telll uss

[sullen quest]

meh, doesn't solve the ultimate problem, you know what I have to say about llm's when it comes to judging llm's, they tend to prefer their own

[remote idol]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1096451431130734632/1429922588557054094/IMG_8353.png?ex=68f7e6af&is=68f6952f&hm=1196972d4b44784bd370b5dd9dc1f414f51d3b80dda80a17c9592d7c1310daa7&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=661&height=1006

[hollow ivy]

what if they used a triumvirate of AI judges?

like gemini, GPT and claude (and/or grok)

[remote idol]

@echo aurora

hmm

[verbal nimbus]

DMed

[verbal nimbus]

Ok will DM

Just to prevent it being on the web = in training data lol

[sullen quest]

woah\

[echo aurora]

[sullen quest]

I think human is the only way to get it reliable

[remote idol]

cat_yawn

[sullen quest]

you don't know or you wont say?

[hollow ivy]

is slower

[echo aurora]

both

[remote idol]

He won't say

[remote idol]

LIES

[verbal nimbus]

Ig it already is since it's in the dataset :/

[sullen quest]

yeah, but its necessary to be reliable

[echo aurora]

it's the truth!!

[remote idol]

mad

[raven matrix]

Hi , I keep getting failed to send message. Why?

[warm zodiac]

when I have a VPN on it happens to me

[verbal nimbus]

Slightly, but you can see how the rankings by other top LLMs (on older data I think) are mostly in alignment

[echo aurora]

This can happen for different reasons sorry to say. Most commonly is you're being rate limitted and will need to wait a bit. However, I've seen cases where: refreshing the page, and trying a new browser can help get past this. And yes like already mentioned turning vpn on/off sometimes helps as well.

[sullen quest]

well I'll take it I guess, 4.5 is better at writing than I thought

[verbal nimbus]

Got @jovial sapphire to try the pharma question without the hint, and looks like Lithiumflow failed to get it right (without hint so far)

[sullen quest]

ok, try again but specify it is a really hard and confusing question as a hint mebe?

[verbal nimbus]

(Definitely don't use LLMs for meds lol, since it fails to identify the fatal drug combination)

[sullen quest]

lol

will keep that in mind when recommending substances to use to doctors

[verbal nimbus]

It's just something that someone in the field would know by considering the mechanisms, but that combination is not common (i.e., not in training data)

[native yarrow]

The veo glaze is crazy ngl

[native yarrow]

I gotchu

[sullen quest]

idk most people here seem to not like it as much

[maiden crest]

How?

[native yarrow]

Idk why it's ranked #1 tho

[verbal nimbus]

With the hint it got an even wrong-er answer

[sullen quest]

lol

[gilded imp]

gemini 2.5 pro isnt answering for me

[fiery gull]

Lmarena SITE bug

The lmarena is incredibly buggy now, it's a plan of the owner of AIs to we cant use the AIs

I want to melt glaciers with opus 4.1 for free 😡

[echo aurora]

We certainly have ongoing bugs with the generic "Something went wrong" error message + models sometimes getting stuck, but I hope as of late things haven't been noticeably different?

[sullen quest]

its had an uptick I think

[gilded imp]

its the only time i nnotice this every ai works its just that no matter what gemini wont respond even in new chat

[echo aurora]

hmm how recent?

There are still people that report the issues listed above; however, the volume hasn't appeared to be anything out of the usual.

[toxic egret]

is the latex formatting issue fixed?

[sullen quest]

I've seen a lot today, also some models yestorday took wayy longer than usual before starting

[empty stump]

arena biased towards google models?

[sullen quest]

i hope not

[empty stump]

like there's no way the old veo 3 is ranked above these recent models

[north cedar]

How much it costs, thousands of promts to claude, and other ais?

[empty stump]

and how has 2.5 pro always been at top for a long time

[toxic egret]

https://www.claude.com/pricing#api

[sullen quest]

veo 3 had quite a lead at the start

[empty stump]

Yes its google they have a lot of data

[sullen quest]

hard to tell since some of the api access lmarena gets for free in exchange for testing reasons, I have no idea how to factor in for that

[sullen quest]

the 2.5 pro that was originally released isn't the same as the current version

[empty stump]

Why they don't share the updates

[sullen quest]

a long time ago every time 3.5 was changed openAI would list the changed model with a different number

at some point I guess companies stopped doing that

[rocky mauve]

What do y’all reckon the best ai app is on ios?

Gemini is pretty bad imo, same for ChatGPT

[fiery gull]

AiStudio in web

2.5 pro 100% free and 100% of free to control the 2.5 pro

[magic stag]

claude sonnet 4.5 thinking for me tbh

nothing else comes close rn

[fiery gull]

But the AiStudio is 100% free

[wicked mason]

Why you wearing bonnet

[magic stag]

he said best not free

[fiery gull]

I'm don't talking about price

You can edit 100%

[magic stag]

...

[jade egret]

: D

[fiery gull]

Flash 2.5 lobomitezed?

[sullen quest]

Tried, didn't happen

oh

nvm

[sullen quest]

thats not flash 2.5 thats pro

[jade egret]

yea

2.5 pro

:DDD

lol

[sullen quest]

: )

[jade egret]

:::)

[sullen quest]

ahh, the spiders

:::)

[jade egret]

yes

::::::::)))

[balmy mist]

https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1980435968323907884

Logan Kilpatrick (@OfficialLoganK)

Tomorrow is a special day for the AI Studio team.

Since May, we have been heads down building a brand new AI vibe coding experience to accelerate the path from prompt to production with Gemini.

Can’t wait to show you all :)

X · Oct 21, 2025, 12:48 AM

so we finally have it

aye!!!!

[sullen quest]

ooooh

thats solved then

[jade egret]

gemini 3?

[sullen quest]

read the twitter post

[jade egret]

ok

so not gemini 3?

🙁

[sullen quest]

still good

so unless you have polymarket positions, be happy

[jade egret]

ok 😄

[sullen quest]

cause that means gem 3 will prob be baised off of this

[jade egret]

:0

[left rain]

is claude sonnet 4.5 thinking even good?

compared to gemini 2.5 pro

[magic stag]

.... its in a different league than 2.5 pro

2.5 pro is pretty bad latsly

[left rain]

really? in what sense

[magic stag]

Try claude and youll see

Anything is better than it rn but sonnet 4.5 is the best overall imo rn

[left rain]

is there a rate limit?

on LMArena

[magic stag]

Yeah but ive never hit it

[left rain]

oh wrd? how frequently do you use it

[magic stag]

Uhhhhhhh

The next tweet

"Tomorrow is just step 1, the next 2 months are going to be a lot of fun."

Gemini 3 not for another 2 months confirmed

[obsidian cargo]

I'm guessing orionmist and lithiumflow are gonna end up being Gemini coding models

[verbal nimbus]

Haha

[empty stump]

Gemini wont release another ultra?

[verbal nimbus]

I like how they call it vibe coding experience

[verbal nimbus]

That's good if true

[verbal nimbus]

Apps are pretty bad

Idk why but even Discord seems buggy

Messages lag and load on batches, etc

Perplexity iOS app doesn't even work last time I tried

Networking seems bugged on iOS

[robust yoke]

Scuffed phone, I suppose.

[sharp sequoia]

Can I share a link to an external page?

[sullen quest]

depends on the external page

[sullen quest]

whats the page

[sharp sequoia]

@sullen quest DM?

[sullen quest]

no

[inner ermine]

what the hell are these

[robust yoke]

The left one is Microsoft's new AI model, while the right one is an anonymous model (what I can only assume is either GPT or Gemini.

Chat, I have news regarding Gemini 3.0.

So, if we end up getting the X28 model (the one known for its out-of-this-world coding capabilities, then we will be able to make stuff.

[red sluice]

model's namecode?

[robust yoke]

Lithiumflow.

Which is the lower-quality version of Gemini 3.0.

[queen tusk]

hello

[maiden crest]

Hi Pros. Does Grok website have limits? or is there a trick.

[storm crescent]

Anyone know if there is an api to get llm usage via lmarena? I want to make an iOS app version for lmarena

[tiny kettle]

I get 5 times a day which is awesome. Today i'm two for 4 that have had no audio. Anybody know why?

[daring rock]

@burnt cypress Please head to #1397655624103493813 for a detailed guide on how to use the bot

[burnt cypress]

thanks

also can we choose the model it uses?

or just random

[daring rock]

@burnt cypress You can generate a video based on your prompt, generate an image based on your prompt or generate a video based on an uploaded image and your prompt. All the information is located in the #1397655624103493813 section

[sterile dust]

What is solitude? A new type of model?

[empty stump]

what model are you using

nevermind

[fleet lintel]

What is this benchmark? Amd how respected/good is it?

[robust yoke]

Apparently, it's called “KingBench”, and judging by its likes, it seems pretty respected.

[fleet lintel]

This sounds like something else and not a 3.0 announcement.

[fleet lintel]

But numbers are much higher compared to Sonnet 4.5. makes me doubt it

[robust yoke]

Well, perhaps that's just how good it really may be.

[fleet lintel]

It would be surprising if thats the case . But 🤞

[empty stump]

what long

you mean like a minute

or like 5-10 seconds

[pale scaffold]

Hello all guys how i use text to video vo3 kindly i am new kindly tell me plz

On website lmaarena i cannot show vo3 or sora 2 pro

[sage plume]

Hello

Everyone

[whole sundial]

Please read #1397655624103493813 for more information. Please note that you can not select models, they are randomly selected for you. You have 5 uses per day and 2 videos are generated in each round so it's likely you will get Sora 2 Pro or Veo 3.1 at least once.

[gray sentinel]

can anybody help me with the seedgram 4 high res model, as when i try to edit the images, it works fine for the first 5-6 images, but then it just shows the "Something went wrong while generating the response. Please try again", for the rest of the images i send to the model.

[analog folio]

hello

[heavy crown]

Hello everyone and thank you!

[strong vale]

hello

[leaden sun]

I'm seeing this since yesterday, could you please have a look there @echo aurora ? thx a lot

[rough cedar]

hi

[plucky sparrow]

which model is this?

[wild coral]

guys

I got a few complimentary Perplexity Pro invites (it includes access to ChatGPT 5, Gemini 2.5 Pro, Claude, Grok, and early access to all the new models for free).

If anyone actually wants to try it out, just DM me and I’ll send over the official invitation. I just don’t want the invites to go to waste since they’re limited so please don't ask if your not going to use it.

[keen beacon]

this place needs serious moderation

alot of this foreign stuff, we don’t understand the culture, or the language, it maybe actually promoting some harmful and dangerous indirect racial ideologies or even worse, promoting propaganda and misinformation without even understanding what the hell some of these videos are even about.

[fleet surge]

oh yeah what the hell

please

there is so much slop being generated in the video thing its unreal

[keen beacon]

dude it’s nothing compared to in the wild

[fleet surge]

yeah i know but its mostly people coming here to use the top models for free

[keen beacon]

the whole Internet is just being bombarded with slob. It’s ridiculous.

[fleet surge]

like they need to have some sort of alt account prevention

half the accounts generating stuff are just made to join this server

[keen beacon]

in my opinion, that’s all irrelevant minor headaches. The concern is the misinformation that we may not be able to catch because we don’t understand the culture language.

we can imagine this place being a source of some kind of propaganda or something without even realizing it how crazy that would be

you got people from Hindu India you got Muslims from Pakistan and other parts of the world and I don’t mean no disrespect or I don’t mean the wrong way but we know that there’s conflict between some of these groups and individuals

like there are here in the United States with Republicans and Democrat. It’s no different.

except we don’t have this kind of secretion violence that some of these other nations do

[fiery gull]

Sonnet 4.5 humiliates the 2.5 pro to be honest, but the AiStudio app itself is very good, in the app Claude only has the free haiku 4.5 available

[keen beacon]

and the thing is 95% of it is probably innocent and no harm and just regular people using it for regular means

its a huge problem in the ai industry not just here. Extreamly poor gaurdrails to actually prevent real harmful stuff and it’s just very irresponsible on all these platforms that can’t even comprehend exactly how all this translates to in the real world for all the wrong reasons

once something is generated, you can’t undo it lol

[magic stag]

I still don't understand how people can call fake videos and chatbot text harmful

Is it going to jump out of my screen and stab me

[keen beacon]

hello

[leaden sun]

real harmful stuff? I wouldnt say the guardrails are extremely poor, to the contrary, those guardrails are over the top and causing way too much false positive that could be more harmful than being useful, it's a problem of context reading, even humans are bad at that, how do you expect machines to do it more accurately?

[daring rock]

@twin ferry @pale scaffold @pseudo schooner @wintry depot Please head to #1397655624103493813 for a detailed guide on how to use the bot

@shrewd gyro Please head to #1397655624103493813 for a detailed guide on how to use the bot

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Content was removed, thank you

[fleet surge]

whoops sorry i thought i pinged mods

pinged some rando named moderator lol

[solemn flame]

hello

[knotty fable]

Pinged or perhaps even dive bombed? 😸

As ChatPGT is noth used and discussed here, I add this which I found interesting.
'They cannot do world building = cannot write an actual story. They cannot play chess, they only do illegal moves. There's no actual reasoning or understanding behind the behaviour - they just follow the rules set up by the training.'
https://youtu.be/emHCav2pxLA

[lavish cloud]

I'm from Kurdistan، where are you from؟

[fickle flame]

Hello from the Philippines

[high swallow]

Qwen 30b instruct won against grok 4 in a coding task lolool

[maiden crest]

is it only me, Haiku 4.5 is down?

[stable kite]

hello from Korea

[stray aspen]

North america

Does Claude 4.5 sonnet have vision

[pliant bramble]

hhh

hello

[warm zodiac]

not the right channel

[sage slate]

hello

[azure idol]

Is hunyuan 3.0 working?

[knotty fable]

This channel need some serious channeling to exorsise these prompting guys who cannot read instructions.

[warm zodiac]

agreed

[lavish cloud]

I'm in Iraq in Kurdistan but Kurdistan is not Arab and we don't have Arabic language we speak Kurdish in which country

[lavish cloud]

In what country.

[stray aspen]

Canada

[verbal nimbus]

Tbf the internet has always been mostly slop

It's just thanks to search engines that we see good results

[knotty fable]

Well it's even more than what it used to be, from AI generated Youtube films supposedly to tell something of interest - yeah even I have taken a wrong turn more than once.

[verbal nimbus]

I think that's the fault of the YT algorithm

[knotty fable]

AI voice, AI chosen clips - which sometimes not even correspond to what the voice is telling - in a few cases even having add a scene that is completely off topic.

[verbal nimbus]

They removed downvotes, for example

[knotty fable]

Indeed, well I left YT and now refining my films even more adding actual animation for several scenes to have both the looks and storytelling improved.
So I don't mind the challenge.

[verbal nimbus]

I don't know why they stopped recommending me science channels that I'm subscribed to

Instead below each video it's all these random AI-narrated movie shorts

[knotty fable]

We're on the same page there, I still watch YT - and it's 95% science.

[lavish cloud]

It's a nice country, but I think it's mostly freezing.

[lavish cloud]

In what country.

[verbal nimbus]

Australia

[lavish cloud]

It's a wonderful country.

[lavish cloud]

I'm in Kurdistan.

[verbal nimbus]

I haven't gotten recommended a 3B1B video in years, yet I'm subscribed to him

[lavish cloud]

I'm sorry we're talking about a private chat.

[verbal nimbus]

And where did Numberphile or Computerphile go... they're publishing videos but it never shows up

[knotty fable]

Have a look at "Looking Glass Universe" channel, she demonstrate quantum computig in a very good way.

[lavish cloud]

In what country.

[knotty fable]

You're right, have not seen any recommendation for numberphile either.

[verbal nimbus]

I just checked, they published a video 5 days ago

But I literally have to try and remember the good channels, they're just not showing up

[warm zodiac]

this is not a private chat this is the general text channel, everyone can see

[lavish cloud]

You can talk to me on your own, and I sent her a friend letter.

[lavish cloud]

In what country.

[verbal nimbus]

Accepted

[knotty fable]

I noted this quite some time backm and their terrible algorithm was one added reason I decided not to use that platform.

[warm zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[verbal nimbus]

I feel like someone should write a better algorithm

(there probably is, haven't checked)

[knotty fable]

Long overdue, with my interest for science - I see recommendation for 'Atlas is alien spaceship coming to kill us all' - or something similar over and over. 😹

[verbal nimbus]

I need an app to manage my subscriptions + playlist anyways. Should write one.

[knotty fable]

Poor Anton Petrov tried to set things right in his last video.

[verbal nimbus]

Oh I have notifications from him turned on so at least he shows up

Facebook seems better, at least Veritasium videos show up there

Although FB's algorithm is kinda scary. If you click on too many cat videos, your feed will be just cat videos. It becomes boring.

[knotty fable]

Veritasium show for me also - sometimes.

I've made a complete cansel on FB, not there - and wiped the trace I ever been there as much as possible.

[verbal nimbus]

I set up daily science/tech notifications on Perplexity

Seems a bit odd today, it listed GPT-5's release as the top AI news item

[knotty fable]

Sounds good, I'm a researcher in real - most I'm keeping track on for work is stuf come to me faster on other channels.
But it's interesting to see how these guys comment on those findings some week later.

[verbal nimbus]

Perplexity's news feed is oddly good

[knotty fable]

That's why I mentioned Petrov specially, as he generally get things right.

[verbal nimbus]

Whatever Perplexity's news algorithm is, it's good

This is literally the first time I'm hearing about this

[azure idol]

Unable to generate pictures on hunyuan 3.0 . Is the server down?

[knotty fable]

Indeed, they're trying to get AI into my phone, even Opera browser had a pop up yesterdy about it.

...nedless to say, I'm not letting that happen, neither in the computer = not going Windows 11.

AI is nice for many of my video clips, else I would be animating myself to death - but I draw a line after that. [Music scores are non-AI.]

[verbal nimbus]

I suppose it's like Github Agents (idk, haven't read it)

I'm reading this rn: https://kyutai.org/next/codec-explainer

"Neural audio codecs: how to get audio into LLMs"

Top article on Hacker News

[tulip knot]

A new promotion by perplexity to get 1 month pro for free if you download comet browser and made your first search https://pplx.ai/amanxy

[fleet lintel]

most likely Nov Ist week 🙁
waiting ...waiting ... waiting..

[robust yoke]

Perhaps.

But, we always have to be hopeful.

[devout hull]

HI. i am new to this server

[gleaming roost]

Bro, I downloaded it, installed it, and did some research... how do I redeem the subscription?

https://pplx.ai/ipatrao65588

[tulip knot]

It get activated instantly just check your profile

[gleaming roost]

still asking to upgrade to pro

[barren prairie]

"Gemini 3 sooner but not this month" said by a google deepmind on september 💀💀💀☠️☠️☠️☠️ I still donno what does mean sooner for him ?

[neat vessel]

https://pplx.ai/samarkotwal

please anyone claim

it

because

it give

you 1 month free pro

[gleaming roost]

lie, it doesn't work

[neat vessel]

also I will earn 2 bucks

[gleaming roost]

I did everything and I didn't win

he will only get money and you nothing

[neat vessel]

Wait

a minute

Really

you dont get nothing

you can send a email to them.

and you chat to perplexity or not

Try to chat

https://pplx.ai/samarkotwal

does you claim invitation

on page

[lean storm]

hello everyone, i saw a youtube video about free video generator. so i definitely got excited. i recently created a horror youtube channel

[neat vessel]

@gleaming roost what you are doing.

Fake

[gleaming roost]

you are trying to deceive everyone

[neat vessel]

does claim page open when you try to claim

it

[warm zodiac]

OpenAI browser coming out today

[neat vessel]

They posted on X.

[raven walrus]

Can i make videos more than 12 seconds in here?

[marsh eagle]

pplx.ai/free-access

[elder burrow]

their marketing is much better than the product itself

[elder burrow]

2 BUCKS PER INVITE?

[wheat zinc]

Hello, I am Maria, exploring AI

[neat vessel]

for US it is up to 15 and France 10

and even For one moth you can also refer and earn.

moth = month

for clarification

DeepSeek-R1 i guess

[random hound]

hi

anyone there??

can we make video in the ration we want bcz there is not any option for slecting ratio

[echo aurora]

hello - sorry to say you're unable to set a specific ratio when using Video Arena

[gusty prawn]

hello all

[echo aurora]

hello

[random hound]

thanks for the info mate

[jovial sapphire]

Since you don't offer bounties for vulnerability disclosure

Could you consider creating a hall of fame?

[gusty prawn]

how can i find the videos that i created ? the list goes really fast

[echo aurora]

that's an interesting idea. As in here in the Discord on on the site itself?

[jovial sapphire]

Website

Would be useful for recognition

Like put it to put it on the resume

[echo aurora]

You'll be pinged when the generation is ready, you'll also receive a DM from the bot that'll link you to the generation.

[jovial sapphire]

Otherwise there is nothing to gain to report

[gusty prawn]

i know but since the window is closed now. is there any way to access your videos again ?

[echo aurora]

yeah that could be a nice recognition. I like the idea, thank you for sharing.

[jovial sapphire]

No problem! Here is an example: https://www.codingame.com/work/vulnerability-disclosure-policy/

[echo aurora]

yeah you can either go back to your DMs with the bot, or you can use the search bar and search mentions + your username.

[jovial sapphire]

It's simple but does the job

[gusty prawn]

thanks 🙂

[echo aurora]

makes sense.

the example is really helpful too

[maiden thicket]

Hi. Is it possible to generate 16:9 landscape ratio on Lm Arena?

[wintry tinsel]

No Gemini 3 tommorow

Now I’m pissed

Gotta wait till freaking November 2nd week or 3rd

[severe pebble]

Doesn't google usually drop on wednesday

Thar would mean November 5th

[marsh sundial]

The quality of writing GPT5 NSP with orionmist left/right

[keen beacon]

the only people that struggle with the guard rails are people that don’t understand how to use properly in my opinion

[fleet lintel]

My guess is 1st week

[keen beacon]

image or video?

[leaden sun]

check claude reddits and see what people are struggling with, you post a research paper from arxiv and can trigger claudes filter to end conversation right after first prompt

[keen beacon]

Yeah, i knew it would happen. I was telling people when they first announced it.

The problem with the AI community is nobody wants to listen to anything and they label everything as fear mongering until it actually occurs and people start getting frustrated but what can you do if people don’t wanna listen or believe ?

I mean at some point we have a community gotta own up to our own mess, but we can’t seem to do that or too fanatic about AI. Our blind spots are blinded

[fathom halo]

awesome platform... like to be up to date on all the latest in AI🤓

[keen beacon]

here’s another point how will we ever know how harmful and how dangerous AI can be if there’s nowhere to share dangerous or harmful output?

since everywhere you share it you’re more than likely going to get banned

[inner laurel]

Hey, anyone else getting the "Something went wrong with this response, please try again" thing? (gemini 2.5 pro)

[leaden sun]

thats why I've said what I've said, the problem is in the context reading but this is a hard thing to achieve and maybe still to costly hence over the top safety mechanism, in the end, it's always consumers who suffer under it

[balmy mist]

gemini 3 is here!!

[keen beacon]

yeah, but who suffers below the consumers?

the people that get missed it’s the most vulnerable

the people that no one wants to hear the people that no one wants to acknowledge their point of view

[leaden sun]

the model consciousness? 😵‍💫

[keen beacon]

all of it

see you’re smart you understand what I mean

some people aren’t even conscious of that lol

[tight jacinth]

HELLO

[leaden sun]

I've heard about fracture, yes, claude is almost at the last stage of dementia

[keen beacon]

I’m telling you, you got a good head on your shoulders you’re asking and concluding to the right things

gets deeper and the deeper you go, the uglier you see the industry for what it is exploitative and irresponsible

[hazy kernel]

When how where who

[keen beacon]

anyways is Gemini 3 really out??

[inner laurel]

??

[keen beacon]

They’re probably updating

that could be a reason

or like he said a limit

[inner laurel]

If gemini 3 is actually here, maybe? I didn't use the website today

[keen beacon]

I’m not sure if it is if it isn’t. I gotta go check. People could just be trolling and spreading false rumors to get people rallied up.

you know that’s what else is kind of an eye-opener and just shows you how these companies treat their consumers. They’re the last to know when it comes out yet all these outlets and all these insiders know the exact week and the exact day. Lol

open AI is having a live stream at 10 AM

[hollow imp]

@echo aurora can you tell my friend @dim basin about lmarena's image upload limits?

[dim basin]

hi

[balmy mist]

Google is cooked

[hallow igloo]

How

[balmy mist]

if the news is true about openai livestream in 20 mins

jk, google prob gonna win ai race but i like the competition from all parties

[keen beacon]

yes

[balmy mist]

https://x.com/ai_for_success/status/1980666366622654709

AshutoshShrivastava (@ai_for_success)

OpenAI to launch new AI Browser ChatGPT Atlas.

X · Oct 21, 2025, 4:03 PM

i hope they release it too, basically gg perplexity lmaoo

they had a long ride

what if atlas is agi lol

[echo aurora]

Sorry I'm not following, can you explain a bit more?

Currently file uploads are limited to just images, we're working on different file types in the future.

Is there something specific you're curious about @dim basin ?

[dim basin]

yeah so basically I have this task I have to do where I dont know how to fix it, and I figured just uploading images to GPT-5 and it explaining it to me would be nice, this would be like 40 ish images that I need, so is there a limit on LMArena? because on Open AI I can only do 4 images per 24 hours on the free version

[wintry tinsel]

Nah

when its here expect much more hype here

[obsidian cargo]

my likely guess is orionmist and lithiumflow are gemini coding models and not gemini 3

[calm skiff]

hello

[echo aurora]

Yes, so there are going to be rate limits for specific model usage, and will vary depending on the model itself. We don't have the rate limits per model listed somewhere so I don't be able to tell you what that specific limit per model is; however, once you've hit the limit you'll start to see a Something went wrong while generating error message (which isn't ideal and we're working on making this experience more user friendly).

[echo aurora]

hello

[balmy mist]

https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1980675117060612504

TestingCatalog News 🗞 (@testingcatalog)

BREAKING 🚨: AI Studio is getting a new vibe coding experience with the AI Tool composer, Secret management and annotations. It takes less than 5 minutes to make an AI-powered app available on production.

Here I am building SVGEMINI, something that will be handy to play with

X · Oct 21, 2025, 4:38 PM

this their big news

[fiery gull]

Which AI do I pick up to run a real healthcare company? I know it's wrong but I'm screwed with no options 🤣

[hollow imp]

CHATGPT ATLAS

[fiery gull]

I'm thinking about sonnet 4.5, the anthropic talk it is good in finance 😑, but idk

[torn mantle]

@echo aurora we cant generate anything related to 3d physics ( threejs ) with lithium or any model

same as

https://github.com/pmndrs/react-three-fiber/issues/3471

its an env package issue

[polar niche]

No AI,

[torn mantle]

i think the issue is mainly on lithium and some gemini models

alright i got it to work somehow asking it to downgrade r3f to v8

[fiery gull]

I have no experience, it's not an option

I'm sucked 🤣

[torn mantle]

finally i can try some 3d physics

[fiery gull]

I preferred to stay only in my 100 daily documents but my brother trolled me

[polar niche]

Then you probably shouldnt go in health care

[fiery gull]

I arrived today with the objective "make this clinic profitable"

[magic stag]

define run a healthcare company

[fiery gull]

With no experience no dih no balls no possibility of working

[magic stag]

im a resident so i have some experience

[robust yoke]

Maybe next year. 💀

[fiery gull]

It's a family business, they just told me "make the clinic profitable" and they parachuted me here

I'm relying on sonnet 4.5 (I don't trust myself obviously)

[magic stag]

as in a clinic with drs seeing patients?

[echo aurora]

Would you mind putting together a post in #1343291835845578853 with relevant info and ping me when posted?

[leaden sun]

there is rumor about claude care, a spin off, for healthcare industry, but just a rumor

[magic stag]

if so dont waste your time. just direct them towards a healthcare scribe AI. it will take ages to make your own and be inferior to solutions available for $100 a month or less

i use heidi health

[fiery gull]

Yes, and it's a medium clinic 🤣 😭😭

[magic stag]

look up heidi health. you can try the other ones but ive tested all of the publicly available ones (as in non enterprise-only solutions such as dragon copilot) and they are all inferior to heidi

in all aspects

[leaden sun]

do you have a MBA from the most elite business school of the world?

thats the first thing you need, otherwise, you might be self educated through learning by doing

[fiery gull]

I'm seeing one that helps me manage a clinic, I think I'll use sonnet 4.5 to teach me (I'm not going to put sonnet 4.5 to manage one)

[fiery gull]

I don't even leave the house, that won't work, but I trust sonnet 4.5 😈

[fiery gull]

The sonnet is making me confident (I think he's doing this to increase the chances from 0% to 2%)

[keen beacon]

yall really think gemni 3 is going to be crazy lol?

[fiery gull]

I need the gemini 3.0 just now

[robust yoke]

Well, if it can code up whole websites that actually look decent, then yes.

[leaden sun]

...good luck...🍀

[robust yoke]

Verdade.
Translation: True.

[keen beacon]

yeah that’ll be awesome, but I don’t think a lot of developers are really sticking around with Google as they are with Claude

ironically google with the mini AI products that has only has 13 maybe 14% of the AI market

[robust yoke]

Apparently, though, this one seems to be quite the steal.

[keen beacon]

Its crazy how big open ai is

[robust yoke]

Speaking of OpenAI, it's gonna be live soon on YouTube with its own browser.

[keen beacon]

its over lol

[robust yoke]

I forgot what the name was, but yeah.

[keen beacon]

atlas

[robust yoke]

That.

[keen beacon]

it’s already over

[robust yoke]

Ah, the video's already over?

[keen beacon]

yeah it was over like 20 minutes ago or something

[robust yoke]

Ah.

[fiery gull]

New openai browser

[keen beacon]

atlas

[robust yoke]

I wonder if Atlas is free.

[fiery gull]

Probably the subscription is a fortune, and chrome with gemini will be 100% free

[keen beacon]

no it’s free. They need all the user data people are willing to cough up.

[robust yoke]

And I especially wonder if it has an assistant.

[keen beacon]

it sure does

[robust yoke]

One like Comet or Opera Neon.

[keen beacon]

it

yep yep yep they got

[robust yoke]

Go figure.

[keen beacon]

every browser is gonna have it

six months a year from now

[fiery gull]

I never tested the opera neon, I'm losting the browser AIs, I need to use it

[robust yoke]

You gotta pay for a founder's pack just to use it. 💀

[sleek crow]

Does anyone know when Google will release Gemini 3.0 Pro?

[robust yoke]

In a couple months or so.

[sleek crow]

I'm terribly tired of waiting

[robust yoke]

Or even days.

Or weeks.

[sullen quest]

Seconds even

[robust yoke]

I have a strong feeling it'll be this month, though.

[fiery gull]

Ah, I prefer use when will be free

[keen beacon]

they’re gonna make 2.5 free for

[robust yoke]

Isso é compreensível.
Translation: That's understandable.

[keen beacon]

it’s funny people aren’t willing to pay for AI