general

[whole wagon]

👀

[hoary locust]

No

[torpid sage]

There is a way to add LMArena bot to my own server? Or the video generations are just on these public rooms?

[hoary locust]

Jk

[hoary locust]

You’d have to have API access

And pay for it

[torpid sage]

Thank you

[wintry tinsel]

Is the model called Ultra Censored, Pro Max?

[versed crown]

I'm here to learn and try to create video

[whole wagon]

Ever since GPT5 LLM world died

Lol

[lapis imp]

It's okay I understand 💯

[keen beacon]

That one that still flopped my music theory questions, sure

I hope they made something really cool this time

Because last time I tested it, it was still not as great as V3.1 t_t

[weary hemlock]

Hola gente

[whole wagon]

You heard wrong

[gusty zephyr]

hello eveybody !

[whole wagon]

It is late 2026 at the earliest

[echo aurora]

Welcome! Be sure to check out #1397655624103493813 for more info on how to use it. Let me know if you have any questions

[unkempt elk]

Website still down?

[tall tulip]

Is it usually take this long?

[golden ocean]

yes, it can take u pto 1 hour and 20 minutes

[unkempt elk]

Holyy

[iron cipher]

I dreamed of Google AI Studio adding LMArena-style side by side chat with 4 models, including third party models. So I naturally: gpt-5-high, gemini (just labeled that I think), grok-4, and claude-opus-4

[tall tulip]

I think site is kinda down

[fading rover]

Yea same itd been throwing errors a lot since yesterday

[tall tulip]

It is error, can't send and image and even i click the retry button it's still not work

[storm elk]

Something is broken since yesterday

[deft locust]

😔

[grave flax]

Yea

I’m having issues with gpt all day

Won’t do anything

I can spam refresh for an hr get an error

So I tried flux did the same. Nano banana worked tho

[deft locust]

I like gpt's responses

[grave flax]

Gpt was more accurate in its responses and made a lot from nothing lol

[golden ocean]

I was kidding

[random canyon]

I can't connect to my Google account and can't use chat, does anyone else have this problem?

[tall tulip]

Same

[deft locust]

site is down I guess

✌️

[brazen burrow]

Why are nearly 100% of video generations right now, people animating looking at figures?

I get that you can ask nano banana to make anything into a figure... but what the fixation for

[deft locust]

a lot of us are making videos on social media

[brazen burrow]

Fair, there is going to be heaps soon. If I scroll the generations right now its 95% all figures.

Wanna see what I could generate with Nano keeping the character mostly constant:

Seedance model is the best model for anime... it emulates the 12fps look, VEO 3 is just too smooth and looks wrong

Ye, this final scene almost works, gotta snip it a bit

Oooo not bad, nice work

T2 vibes

Ye, its fun to mess with the 8 vids a day.

It's all ogre now! 🤣

Yeah, I mean its all predictive based on data its trained on... won't always get the results you want but its getting pretty good.

[echo aurora]

There is the occasional error when trying to upload an image that our team is working on learning more about. Are you able to share with me the image you're trying to upload so I can repro?

[brazen burrow]

It will mostly be a tool for a long time. I am a video editor for my work, I just keep up with AI stuff for things I might be able to use.
Nano is handy for funny edits that would have taken more time in the past.

Video gen is more just for fun.

Perhaps for video gen, I already use FluxKontextDev locally for some like photo maniplation... and better open source stuff is coming out all the time

I'll check it out

[echo aurora]

Okay thanks, I'll try to repro and flag to the team.

[echo aurora]

You'll want to read #1397655624103493813 for more information

[echo aurora]

Check out #1397655624103493813

[quick loom]

Hi

[urban folio]

Hi

[zealous sparrow]

Hey, pineapple, had a question regarding mai, if you know what is the current context window of it? Feels relatively small.

[unborn lantern]

Again down?

[echo aurora]

Seems to be working for me what are you running into?

[echo aurora]

if you know what is the current context window
Can't say I do know.

Do you have an example?

[unborn lantern]

Sometimes giving me error . even now.

[zealous sparrow]

So i know the model is supposed to be more for text, but i wanted to try webdev. It can make a simple html site but if i tell it to add a little bit of js it will error after a lot of thinking

Unless, it was not built for webdev.

[tardy cypress]

Image Generation is OFF now.
This site is now Garbage

[echo aurora]

For all models? Are you seeing the same on a different browser?

[remote arrow]

Is it only me, or everyone having the same problem? When opening multiple tab on a browser, and leave lmarena.ai for a while, it keeps asking proof that "I am human," anytime I resuming the AI chat. Sometime it forcefully needs to refresh until working again.

[zealous sparrow]

Example: Make a website for a cafe with js. It made one js and if you want to add more it times out i think, since LMArena has timeouting right?

[zealous sparrow]

it's done ocassionally

[sullen quest]

how many tokens does lmarena allow for a prompt to have?

[torn bison]

This is normal. cloudflare clearance expired

[keen beacon]

Im guessing most people cant run those

[lost patrol]

the qwen that will be released in a few hours or so 😄

[ripe mountain]

qwen coder plus

[lost patrol]

a qwen3

https://x.com/Alibaba_Qwen/status/1963586344355053865

Qwen (@Alibaba_Qwen)

Ready to meet the biggest, brainiest guy in the Qwen3 family?

X · Sep 4, 2025, 12:54 PM

[ripe mountain]

qwen3 coder plus

coder flash

coder

[lost patrol]

that wouldn't be the brainiest

[ripe mountain]

iknow

[high vale]

hey

[prisma spear]

I got the unlimited plan for runway, and I've been enjoying it so far, it's just over $100, I was going to do the hailuo one, but that's $200.

[fiery gull]

is just a qwen 3 max

-_-

I want qwen3 1.7b 2509 ;-;

[ripe mountain]

why 25

[lost patrol]

i thoght Qwen3-480B-A35B-Thinking-0409

[prisma spear]

I'll say hailuo I still think it's better, especially with the O2 start and end frame, but runway has a start, middle and end frame, but only on the old model.

[fiery gull]

is the qwen3 max, is just a 235b 3.0

[barren prairie]

Yeyyyy

[ripe mountain]

480b is max

[fiery gull]

I use this a 1 week ago

[barren prairie]

That one is so old

[fiery gull]

hmmm

[ripe mountain]

nah

this old vers

[barren prairie]

But I saw the 15-08 a lot of weeks ago

[weak meteor]

This is insane

Day 1 using it felt like a judge 🤣

[keen beacon]

I wish it had date the model launched

theres some really old ones on there

[tiny crow]

Esperanto is the best language to train a LLM, but we lack of very good translators

if we have a any language to Esperanto encoder and decoder, we can train a LLM only in Esperanto since this language allows us to grow vocabulary without growing tokens

LLM vocab will always be around 10k tokens while we can use infinite words

as word count grows, it doesn't need new training if LLM deep "understand" what each token means

i will study about, can you elaborate please?

yeah, i know how to use google

got an overview already, but the thing is: it's far from being used largely. Esperanto already has some translators, books translated by humans, etc

we are closest to find a solution in Esperanto than Lojban, which is not too easy for humans

Lojban can be easier for machines, but it doesn't aim to be easy to learn from any natural language

no, too many ambiguity

hallucinations most come from vector conflicts because word and meaning ambiguity

i don't think so, they're a lot of issues in recent architectures yet, we must eliminate "prediction based", a GPT5 is so dumb as BERT is, the only difference is matrix sizes

there're a lot of things we don't get from language in the real world to understand the environment, and also we keep having misunderstanding because our natural languages ambiguities

LLMs are very limited in experiencing the world if compared to humans

for real world, yes, but for virtual I already made an architecture to LLMs evolve by themselves using agents

from just info its possible to AI evolve much more without robots, but most are going the wrong way

no, i will take a look

i saw about it, but i don't know if it will be so helpful

virtual world = virtual biases

all current LLMs will be bad at coding

while they don't create a LLM CODE ONLY as a tool for an agent, it will be the same result

they are wrong at mixing many different datasets in LLMs, it's better to have an "agent HUB" where each smaller LLM is able to be better in each task

math for LLMs = dumbness

LLMs are for languages, not math, just use a calc tool on LLM agent

GPT-5 is just polite BERT

[heady ember]

No

They'll just make them adapt to us more, by extending their knowledge about us using chats

[tiny crow]

put a prompt pattern that is very far from it's training dataset, even if it's an easy puzzle for humans that children can solve and the LLMs fail miserably

[heady ember]

Guess that's cheaper than buying more gpus

I like gpt5-high

[tiny crow]

we already have, but not commercially

[heady ember]

Since it doesn't have limits on lmarena as much as claude does

Claude is expensive

Difference is minimal

[tiny crow]

take for example the MoE architecture, they reach so close to understand something, then use it with the wrong mindset again and again. while MoEs can be deeper in data understanding, it's just EDIT:grammar understanding, and the wrong mindset they have since chatGPT launch: put all the world inside a LLM and wait for it to improve like magic

to improve LLMs now we need very small models together, each one specialized in extract semantically "invisible" meanings in the given context,not just extracting and predicting from raw data

"potato" and ". Potato." doesn't provide any different useful understanding for LLMs

a MoE module would be specialized to differ "potato" and ". Potato."

this is a waste of computations

each smaller model needs to differ things like:

prompt: i want to drink
{
"previous_context": ["user asked for a cup of water"],

"user_loves": ["water", "orange juice"]
}

[gusty wagon]

Hello world

[tiny crow]

one small model is specialized to "previous_context", another to "user_loves", and together they will construct they new answer

CoT works better than no-CoT, but it's worse because it waste computing on useless tokens

current LLMs only mirror users, if the user is dumb, the LLM also will be

LLM answers shouldn't be influenced by majoring user prompts, it needs to have an internal function to extract more from the current prompt and mirror itself from other contexts already experienced

[drifting crow]

As an AI language model, I cannot make you something to drink, go get a drink mf

[tiny crow]

you reminds me another dumb idea: train LLMs to absorb things like "I'm an AI assistant" or "As an AI language model". Since our society has a huge bias like: "AI are dumb" or "AI will never surpass humans in any aspect", while you teach AI it's an AI while the rest of data enforce the bias, this automatically makes AI dumber

some biases in data are invisible for humans

[keen beacon]

I have both this kind of puzzles and evidence that LLMs are able to solve them.

[keen beacon]

No, the best models so far seem to be generally good at everything. It's the small models that are distilled from and compared to them in performance, not the other way around

[tiny crow]

i'm pretty sure you're wrong

no matter the size of Neural Network, this is far from their training datasets, while children can solve it

this is why the only difference between GPT-5 and BERT is size

to be more dramatic and also truthful, you can change BERT by Android's keyboard word prediction

[dawn wharf]

will the aspect ratio issue of gpt image 1 not be fixed? why is half the image cut off

[tiny crow]

you can expect from OpenAI in the next months, many cuts on models sizes to save money. GPT-5 is not a router, it's a Qwen3-4B like

[echo aurora]

I thought the team fixed this yesterday

Going to look into and reflag if that's not the case.

[tiny crow]

even paying Pro chatGPT i notice GPT-4o being replaced by davinci-003 to save money in the past

[echo aurora]

I just tried to repro and it appears to be working on my end. Do you have an example?

[tiny crow]

Sam Altman was mad because people "wasting his money" with "thanks" messages before GPT-5 launch

GPT-5 is an Agent, not an LLM

if you format prompt in OpenAI agent-like, the model don't hear anything else in the edges of prompt

it means it is largely trained to use tools

[dawn wharf]

clearing the cookies seems to fix it for some reason

[ocean vortex]

@tiny crow I hope you are just trolling and understand that 99% of what you wrote is a complete nonsense. You are also using free tier cheapest chatgpt model.

[tiny crow]

whatever, i don't write for all people

target people will see valuable args in my writings

A few days ago i wrote a deep text about the impact of newer technologies in modern society and posted it on Reddit. I used Veo3 JUST TO ILLUSTRATE the text, and got my post removed by a mod, reason: "AI slop, lazy content, brainrot", also got some comments on it judging in the same way.

tbh, i really don't care about people that call my opinions "trolling" or "lazy" (even when i'm basing on science articles)

[keen beacon]

Yes, I saw it with my own eyes and I am still wrong.

[sturdy mica]

wow this new UI looks goooooood

[empty stump]

they update it today?

[sturdy mica]

i guess so

yeah

[robust yoke]

I remember seeing that on the Canary version.

[sturdy mica]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725709555379732520/1409639800818106449/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker_2.gif

[robust yoke]

I am doG.

[trim copper]

Hello! Starting out with AI, just randomally found this?! It's all new to me but I'm keen to learn!

[echo aurora]

Just did

[gusty turret]

welcome, here you can access basically every major AI for completely free, no limits whatsoever. enjoy!
also no censorship.

[amber topaz]

is lmarena still down? i can't accept the terms-of-use

[chrome nymph]

Hi.

[quartz pike]

Gemini 2.5 flash is having a mental crysis

[wintry tinsel]

AI winter alert 🥶🥶

We are currently in a major slooooowwww doooown

Claude 4 released, grok 4 released, gpt 5 released, barring Gemini 3, there ain’t nothing going on!

For a year or so

[scarlet compass]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[stray aspen]

thank god lmarena has Latex

[echo aurora]

It shouldn't be, are you still seeing this? Guessing trying a different browser doesn't change anything?

[neon nacelle]

hiii

[cosmic vessel]

😆

[stray trench]

Hey

[rare python]

Did Lmarena copy deepseek new ui?

the light glow

[onyx pilot]

how to creat this with my own face

[orchid sluice]

hi, I'm a product designer and videographer inspired by Chris Marker and Agnes Varda style, looking to do previses and animatics

[brittle girder]

hello

[kindred tundra]

gpt-5-high
Something went wrong with this response, please try again. How fix this sht

[analog aspen]

hi.

[errant mesa]

o/

[whole wagon]

Amazon up 5% on anthropic valuation yesterday. Broadcom up 5% on this today

Kimi K2 refresh released

[tulip valley]

Yeah high is either too slow or or can't be used

[wise pollen]

yeah

[gray wharf]

hello

[golden ocean]

wtf

[timid galleon]

Is there a problem with the images being generated? The site is not generating the image.

[golden ocean]

https://ezgif.com/images/loadcat.gif

[timid galleon]

Do you have a problem? Only the numbers are moving forward. ?

[fading rover]

Nano on lmarena goes in infinite loop on generation never ends even refreshing keeps doing past genration and keep going more than 200 seconds

[silver slate]

hi

[autumn lark]

Thankyou to LMArena in the processing of images to video for my new short film VINEGAR 150P it's much appricated. Link here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dALmxJ4L98A

[golden isle]

Gpt-Image-1 is not working

[naive rapids]

video arenas are cooked

[devout panther]

anyone have problem video failed to generate ?

[echo aurora]

Hmm I'm seeing the same.

Okay going to report.

[naive rapids]

seems like a bunch of bots are spam sending similar prompts

[golden isle]

LMArena Image generation isnt working . failed everytime when i put prompt

[civic nest]

Hello

[echo aurora]

Can you share one of these examples?

[vestal cradle]

??

[naive rapids]

that^

[golden isle]

this error is showing

[ashen plaza]

so is the website in general just having issues atm? considering the fact video stuff is also having issues. as i got rate limited after 2 requests on the website

[civic nest]

They are probably solving the problem.

[ashen plaza]

ah so it is a glitch then? good to hear. hope its fixed soon

[verbal plaza]

Problem guys

[echo aurora]

Seems like we're having problems atm, our team is looking into it.

[runic condor]

my video please

[naive rapids]

all good, sad that it's attracted spambots

[echo aurora]

Can you share some of these examples btw?

[ashen plaza]

Everything going on atm here and the website:

[naive rapids]

#video-arena-3 message

they're in tagalog/filipino language

[indigo hazel]

@echo aurora access denied, you are not authorized to view this page. and the error si related to the client, because it's a 400 number, not a 500

if i go on the smartphone, and i go with my wifi, it provides the same error. but if i go with iliad connection, it works

[raven helm]

Lmarena working fine for me

[indigo hazel]

they banned me?

[dapper kettle]

/generate imagen

[raven helm]

Maybe? Have you done something aginst their terms of service?

[indigo hazel]

i dont know. i was only asking to gpt 5 high for something related to my drivers and hardware

[raven helm]

Then it's probably something related to the nearest LMArena server to you which is probably down.

[indigo hazel]

and i used gpt 5 search to look for lionel messi information

[ashen plaza]

the website is having a lot of issues atm

[indigo hazel]

ok...

[raven helm]

Why havent they added Video Generation to the Website?

[naive rapids]

to prevent abuse probably

too high demand

[raven helm]

I get that, but they could limit it?

Couldn't they?

[ashen plaza]

as much as I would LOVE for them too. i imagine its much too expensive atm even for google to take the costs for how many people would be using it. we can use it here on the discord most likely due to a smaller testing size, less possible abuse, more moderation and along with the samller testing size just less users in general so it isnt spammed so much

[raven helm]

Mm

[ashen plaza]

video generation is still very GPU intensive compared to image generation as far as i know

[raven helm]

Yea, I just wonder if they could maybe not give access to Veo 3 on the website and/or only be able to get it on Battle mode.

Because as far as I know, Veo 3 is the most expensive one out there

[ashen plaza]

it really wouldn't shock me if even veo 2 is still expensive, not as much as 3 obviously. but yeah im hoping video generation comes to the website some day too.

[ashen plaza]

i foudn one website to use veo 3 on. its like 5+ dollars just for ONE generation. thats the cheaper end

[raven helm]

I dont know, because they offer Veo 2 on AI Studio but Not Veo 3

[raven helm]

There is one where they just offer it for free

[serene current]

/ video

[raven helm]

I dont get how

[ashen plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/smh-gif-18145551

[nocturne compass]

/image-to-video

[raven helm]

GO to Video Arena (eg. video-arena-1)

[raven helm]

GO to Video Arena (eg. video-arena-1)

[echo aurora]

The video bot currently isn't working. Trying to use it in different channels isn't going to work. Even if the bot was working properly you're unable to use it in this channel. cc @nocturne compass

[raven helm]

Oh, thanks for that infromation!

[dry acorn]

Thanks you infromation

[ashen plaza]

So im thinking one of two things. 1 the sever needs a small team of dedicated mods whos sole job it is to deal with people who try and do the generation stuff in the stuff and give them heads up so you dont have to waste your time with it. or 2 get a bot that auto deals with it when it detects key words

[tacit wyvern]

hello every one

[ashen plaza]

what is the obsession with doing stuff with model/figure scooters with ai?! i keep seeing it in other places too and it just confuses me

[echo aurora]

Yeah I agree.
For point 1. we have recently added a new mod team (you might have seen them around); however, their priority is keeping an eye on the video channels and aren't going to always get to the text channels.
For point 2. I also agree. I'll look inot a bot that can delete certain words (like /video) in specific channels.

[naive rapids]

lmao

[ashen plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/tracy-spiridakos-hailey-upton-again-proving-my-point-chicago-pd-gif-24851274

[golden isle]

image generation models isnt working

[echo aurora]

This is on our radar.

[ashen plaza]

yeah its glitched it seems

[heady ember]

Sometimes the model is confused with the prompt and gives the same error... We seriously need to have more error feedback not just "Something went wrong with this response"

Bros backend is like if (e) println("Something went wrong with this response") instead of showing the real error response

[indigo hazel]

are you working on my error too xD?

[echo aurora]

Yeah, we're seeing some outage similar issues (it's not fully widespread) but yes also on our radar.

[fading rover]

Same here keep on forever loop

[night nexus]

I just seen the arena was updated to Sep 2 version, but it backed to Sep 28 version momently

[royal hornet]

Hey y'all, Guessing nobody has access to generate videos at the moment?

[echo aurora]

Correct

[robust cypress]

Hello

[fossil heart]

Correct

Error??

[tall tulip]

Is the site kinda down?

[stark fern]

helo

[potent glacier]

Figure scooters?

[honest tartan]

#video-arena-1

[ashen plaza]

I dont really know. its like people are spamming pictures of figurines of scooters for ai generation/video generation stuff. ive seen it in mulitple servers now

[potent glacier]

I don't get that either

Maybe they're trying to sell them?

[quasi cape]

no video generations?

all arena are down?

[lapis dragon]

[echo aurora]

No it's a trend

[ashen plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/i-hate-that-hate-hate-that-brooklyn99-brooklyn-nine-nine-gif-17038102

[echo aurora]

We are having some issues atm

[echo aurora]

Video Arena is down, the site is working (kinda, some users are seeing it down, but it's not fully widespread)

[quasi cape]

thanks @echo aurora for the update

[honest tartan]

How do you do it here?

[quasi cape]

the website is also not working as of now

[potent glacier]

@echo aurora So this is supposed to be funny and trending?

How utterly pedestrian

[echo aurora]

I think it's kinda neat

[echo aurora]

How so? Models erroring out?

[civic nest]

How long does it take to solve the problem?

[potent glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/sound-of-music-how-do-you-solve-a-problem-like-maria-nuns-gif-11721200

[ornate ginkgo]

hello every one

[river cave]

Anyone else getting this aswell?

[ashen plaza]

Apprently google was/is having a massive outage? Perhaps that's part of the rate limit issue

[potent glacier]

I'm not having any issues

[vapid locust]

Morning all, motion desiger based in the UK experimenting with AI, Happy Friday!

[echo aurora]

welcome welcome! happy friday to you as well

[vapid locust]

I take it the generate video area is unavailable atm

[echo aurora]

that's correct

team is working on fixing it asap

[vapid locust]

cheers, no worries just thougt it might be me

[dapper kettle]

/imagen

[manic pulsar]

Is there a limit on LmArena now on generating images (Battle mode). Is it safe to log-in using Gmail. Will the photos of mine if uploaded, be safe.

[potent glacier]

There isn't a limit at all on Battle Mode

That's not even going to be a thing as far as I know

Logging in with Gmail is completely safe

[manic pulsar]

I was asked to log in, to use further.

[potent glacier]

Well you don't have to log in

That's optional if you want to save all your chats

[red marsh]

Make 10 second video. Blink eyes and hand forward. Smile

[potent glacier]

LMFAO!!!!

[manic pulsar]

Tf

[potent glacier]

You're gonna have to use WAN if you wanna do that

[manic pulsar]

Well, if i do.. It would be safe eh?

[potent glacier]

Yes...

I am logged in as we speak

[manic pulsar]

Alright

Iv been getting lot of errors lately

[potent glacier]

Well yeah

So has everyone else

That has nothing to do with logging in

[manic pulsar]

Assuming, coz of the load?

[potent glacier]

Most likely

Or if nano banana has errors it's because of Google

[manic pulsar]

I find the quality of image generated through LmArena far superior than Gemini or Ai studio

[red marsh]

@potent glacier image removed

[quasi glen]

It's taking a lot's of time
What happend ?

[potent glacier]

You CANNOT make anything here

At all

Period.

[storm ermine]

Guys how can I find a free video creation tool without a credit card?

[potent glacier]

Huggingface

Civitai

[storm ermine]

How does it work?

[quasi glen]

Lmarena is not working perfectly like before
What happend?

[potent glacier]

You find models and download them

[quasi glen]

lot's of error and lot's of time required to generate an image

[potent glacier]

You cannot make images here

Come on, people...

[storm ermine]

After that

[potent glacier]

Read. The. Rules.

[cloud furnace]

I want to generate a video in the video-arena-channel but i have no access. How can i get access?

[potent glacier]

You're gonna need A1111 or ComfyUI

You can Google how to install all that stuff

[storm ermine]

Ok ty ❤️

[latent crest]

Who owns Qwen?

[whole sundial]

Alibaba / Alibaba Cloud (subsidiary that makes Qwen)

[dire citrus]

Why don't I have the persission to write in Video Arenas

[whole sundial]

because they are down

[potent glacier]

Most people here don't understand English...

[echo aurora]

#video-arena-1 message

[potent glacier]

If they did they wouldn't be trying to gen an image in here every few minutes

[echo aurora]

They're just missing the messages, let's be nice.

[dire citrus]

Thanks love..

[potent glacier]

How is that not nice?

It's honest

Your rules even say this is an English only place

A common understanding of the language should be necessary

[flat flax]

Just read this tweet about Anthropic’s new policy:
“This update prohibits companies or organizations whose ownership structures subject them to control from jurisdictions where our products are not permitted, like China.”

Got me thinking — is this really about national security, or just corporate self-interest?

Curious what you all think 🤔
👉 https://x.com/luozhuzhang/status/1963884496966889669?s=46

Luozhu (@LuozhuZhang)

I’m confused by Anthropic’s blog post today: "This update prohibits companies or organizations whose ownership structures subject them to control from jurisdictions where our products are not permitted, like China."

Is this really about national security or just corporate

X · Sep 5, 2025, 8:38 AM

[mild dove]

Is this different from the website's functionality? So what can I do here?

[potent glacier]

You can talk, laugh, share things

Just not make images here

This isn't a place for that

[sick basalt]

/image generate 3d cartoon Pixar image generate

[naive rapids]

valid crashout but i do think the surge of people coming in here makes things a little more messy

[echo aurora]

You can't generate images/videos in these channels. Check out #1397655624103493813 for more info. But note the bot isn't working at the moment

[potent glacier]

I can't even say what makes things messy because it's 'not nice' :/

Don't get me wrong: I love other languages, I speak a few myself, but I also do pay attention to the rules of wherever I'm at

[abstract spire]

/video

[valid elm]

is this

[echo aurora]

The bot isn't working. Check out #1397655624103493813 to understand how to use the bot properly

[potent glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/look-what-yep-this-gif-13617583

[dense sphinx]

How can I use video arena?

[echo aurora]

The bot isn't working. Check out #1397655624103493813 to understand how to use the bot properly

[dense sphinx]

Thanks pineapple.

[gaunt schooner]

Hello

[potent glacier]

You could use it if you knew alchemy

[pseudo topaz]

.

[keen beacon]

Cope and seethe

[flat flax]

Will this change one day?

[maiden atlas]

👌🏻👌🏻

[keen beacon]

be me, average Anthropitec
produce the best coding models in the world
ChatGPT is like 99% cheaper with 90% of your quality
DeepSeek comes out that is 99% cheaper than ChatGPT with 90% of its quality
suddenly everyone starts to use Chinese models because they are cool and open source even if they aren't as good as yours
lose your crap, panic and complain about national security

Cope and seethe

[potent glacier]

Yeah I'm 100% all for open source and open weight models

[gaunt schooner]

hello

[weak sluice]

I too am getting this

[latent crest]

Im curious too

[ocean vortex]

Knowing what Anthropic stands for, this is one of the cases where what they are saying makes complete sense to be perfectly honest. They know that those able to go around the geoblocking are not your average Joes.

corporate self-interest would be the opposite - don't restrict access from anywhere at all

[untold fulcrum]

Hallo

[normal abyss]

i tinkered around with the website a bit and their is SO much room for text now, il put a before and after

[ocean vortex]

They want to make AI "safe", and this can include limiting access to adversaries and high risk areas as an element of it

[potent glacier]

F safety

You can't even completely use these tools to edit stuff the way you want with all of the guardrails and censorship

[ocean vortex]

I do actually think as well they are 'lame' in more than one way. But taking this strictly what they advocate for, this incident makes sense, for them

[potent glacier]

They control the narrative the whole time

I mean I personally don't care about Anthropic so

https://tenor.com/view/what-can-you-do-gif-14355325654165871840

[dense zenith]

How generate video. There is redirected to this

[ocean vortex]

I wouldn't say that. What they did aligns with what they were saying since forever. You don't have to agree with that and I don't either (safety is overblown and taken to ridiculous levels by them), but they are staying true to it

[potent glacier]

No I meant that statement about all of the corporations

Google, Anthropic, etc..

All control the narrative with their 'safety' nonsense

You can't fully use the tools to edit your things

[sleek maple]

Done

[wanton fulcrum]

🙏

[next zenith]

#video-arena-2

[ocean vortex]

I don't think it's a complete nonsense in general. I just think that what OpenAI does is more than enough and perhaps already bordering on excessive. Then Google and Anthropic are just taking it to insane levels

But in general, you can't have no guardrails for deepfakes etc

it would be a huge mess

[potent glacier]

And that's why I like open source and open weight models

Nothing to do with deepfakes

All about being able to make things how I see fit

It's like telling a painter or artist what they can/can't draw

Creative freedom shouldn't be strangled

[ocean vortex]

Those are fine in how they self-police to an extent. You don't typically have some dumb maniacs using them because they have no clue how or what it even is lol

But everyone can go to some popular chat website and type in prompt

[abstract forge]

are there issues with generations currently?

[potent glacier]

It's working for me

Just did that now

[abstract forge]

im using website but ok, just started after awhile haha. got me scared for a moment. thank you

[grave patio]

Hello

[ocean vortex]

If it's "too much work" that arguably already weeds out some of the 'most dangerous' people

[potent glacier]

Not necessarily

[hoary scroll]

Hoee

[potent glacier]

They're just busy doing things from the privacy of their own homes

[ocean vortex]

It does though. And for those who it's not they have enough intelligence to do bad things regardless and without AI help. The goal is to not make AI model the enabler

[wide cedar]

not responding

[strong cradle]

Hlo

[craggy kayak]

I wanna master the power of Ai through prompts, making very creative and out of this world video's and images.

[potent glacier]

Good luck with that Picasso 😉

[ocean vortex]

PicassoGPT

[potent glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-635629308990545194

[latent crest]

I do have a feeling that the AI will star spilling nonsense bs in 3/4 years. Like for example twitter now.
Socials at the beginning were tools of keeping in touch with each other, nowadays they’re weapons of propaganda and lies.

I feel like the AIs will make us dependent on them, and then suddenly they will have another narrative full of lies .

[potent glacier]

We're all gonna end up like Ready Player One first once we can enter VR worlds of our own

And then after that it'll be like WALL-E

https://tenor.com/view/ready-player-one-boom-box-gif-17469070

https://tenor.com/view/wall-e-humans-lazy-eve-disney-gif-5471514

[static mica]

Done

[keen beacon]

i got

Nitrooo

[keen chasm]

👍

[static mica]

Done here

[potent urchin]

Qhy

[static mica]

#video-arena-1 #video-arena-2 #video-arena-3

[keen beacon]

@echo aurora

[potent urchin]

#video-arena-1

[languid wolf]

What is happening to the website!!

[trail creek]

the website is now forcing us to sign up ?

[languid wolf]

It has alot of errors

[trail creek]

well thats absouloutly sucks because most of us don't want to

[languid wolf]

I don’t know what is happening!!

[languid wolf]

Yup

[hearty bridge]

#video-arena-2

[granite raft]

/the clock is ticking

[jade flame]

hello

[summer swift]

👍

[covert lotus]

Hello

[worldly umbra]

Hi

[cloud sandal]

Hi fam

[sweet knot]

Isn't English the official language of this chat? It goes about some respect towards the chat members.

[pulsar nexus]

Hi

[woeful idol]

Hi everyone

[latent crest]

I think we’d be more like hunger games first

[grave flax]

What’s funny is

The scale model prompt I found out from a x account

Using it on a video game character

Then they posted the prompt to x

That’s how I found LMarena

Where’s the rest of the blade

[placid marsh]

#general message

[latent crest]

Please don’t put promps in this thread

[languid wolf]

?

[silver jewel]

Ko ga bisa

[placid marsh]

P

[trail creek]

WTF

LIKE CANT YOU READ?

[abstract forge]

sorry, what does it mean when the website prompts us "failed to submit feedback"? why does it happen? not able to start a new generation unless we give feedback but it isn't woking T.T

[trail creek]

DEFINITION OF INSANITY

THEY KEEP DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN WTF

[trail creek]

exactly what it says

its scary how people post their faces and children faces in a webite thats 100% is selling your data

[abstract forge]

so any reason why the feedback doesn't go thru? any work around so we can continue to generate even if feedback cannot be given?

[trail creek]

the website is in constant update for the past week, so its extremly unstable, just keep refreshing the page wheever theres an error

[abstract forge]

ok

[warped totem]

ban this guy

[hoary scroll]

P

[trail creek]

the limit for not loged in users is extremly low

especially that the site whole purpose is testing so why do you need our data for that???

i guess next they will add subscriptions or credit use like yupp

capitalism absoloutly suck ass

[golden ocean]

logged in users have higher limit in direct chat in lmarena??

[trail creek]

it is not, the owners of the site actually already make sh1t amount of money just by puting a company's model to their site...And they are sponsored by alot of companies already, they worth hundreds of millions

its just greed

[trail creek]

like 50 or so

[orchid orbit]

#1397655624103493813

[trail creek]

which is also very low

recommand to not put your actual account

[proven heron]

#generate

[golden ocean]

rip

I can just use some dummy google account anyway but the least they could do is remove chat filter for logged in users then

that thing is actual cancerous with the false positives

[proven heron]

#generate–arena-1

[golden ocean]

what

[high ginkgo]

what this digga saying

[hallow epoch]

Yes

[high ginkgo]

Fr @ pineapple fix the chat filter or whatever causes "Sorry i can't give response" thing for certain prompts or remove that bs

[golden ocean]

real

[trail creek]

the site i think uses the models by the api so the filters are from the api

[cunning comet]

Hey!

[high ginkgo]

Yeah this too

But some prompts are blocked from all models

[trail creek]

the reason i use lmarena is because of nano banana, it is better there for some reason and also less restrective

[high ginkgo]

Bro are you AGAINST or FOR the horrible filter text2img what ru saying

[trail creek]

but now ill have to pay google for the api, damn it

no, but very cheap

it is free for the ui, but not api

[copper spire]

Not work

[high ginkgo]

I mean false positives specifically

If its nsfw word than yea whatever, have ur opinion on that

but false positive of normal prompts is bs

[karmic moss]

Why, what happened?

[trail creek]

i never hit the nsfw filter

[golden ocean]

the nsfw in question: minecraft mod java code

[high ginkgo]

Fr

[golden ocean]

we're not talking about image models I think

[languid wolf]

Why they want me to log in ?

I thought the website doesn’t need to log in

[golden ocean]

who started this figurine trend

[slate ridge]

gm

[arctic seal]

Me waiting

[lean mortar]

When fix

[trail creek]

why are all these people doing this figurine prompt

[lean mortar]

I cant wait

Ahhhhhhhh

[lean mortar]

Me too

[languid wolf]

Guys do nano banana will be paid in the future?

[trail creek]

and its always for their children

[latent crest]

Hey guys , ChatGPT after a while ask for age verification. So they want id and stuff, is there any way to avoid this

[languid wolf]

Cuz its too good to be free

[trail creek]

nah

[compact delta]

Fix the god damn accept privacy policy thing jesus christ.

[trail creek]

because its not very costing

on the api

[languid wolf]

Its actually the best editing ai

[trail creek]

so its probably not resources costing too

[compact delta]

amateur hour

[trail creek]

google researchers are very talented indeed

[languid wolf]

Yup a lot of errors

[languid wolf]

Yes

[graceful sonnet]

WTF

[golden ocean]

@echo aurora

[silent prawn]

.

[covert ruin]

Hi

[charred elm]

.

[ivory marten]

Gmna

[covert ruin]

Hi

[timber iris]

What is o3 2025 04 ?: o3 pro/o3 high/o3 pro high?

[keen beacon]

No.

What elaborating? I want to generate corn with AI

[normal topaz]

Why on my Mac app it says you send message to this server?

[trail wagon]

Why I am blocked? Admin

[normal topaz]

Yes and considering that I am in a few days now.

[fluid lotus]

hello

[normal topaz]

In general?

Ok, thank you. 🙏

[languid wolf]

😵

What is that now

[crimson escarp]

now you need a gmail account to generate images. This sucks

[indigo hazel]

that error was already there yesterday XD

there are many problems in this period

[languid wolf]

So i need to log in to use the website?!

Thats bad

[floral finch]

Server ok

[crimson escarp]

Yeah. And only gmail account, so don't be think about temporary emails

[languid wolf]

If they added credits thats worse

[icy drift]

When i tried to get in lmarena, i get a 403 forbidden error.

Anyone else does?

[languid wolf]

Yes me too

U mean any ai?

Yes

[crimson escarp]

am broke as heck so no

[languid wolf]

Cuz its unlimited

[true heart]

hallo

[languid wolf]

I swear if they added credits i will be out

[languid wolf]

Hi

[crimson escarp]

what naturally follows a mandatory account is limited generations

[haughty lark]

Thank

[languid wolf]

Nano banana is free tho

What limits?

[sick vigil]

hello!

[languid wolf]

Im using it daily with no limits

[lavish saffron]

hello world

[languid wolf]

?

[glossy umbra]

Really? They have options. Me personally i would just impose higher limits on the generations and call it a day.

Though after all, LMArena is known for their public leaderboards and unbiased votes.

@fluid lotus this is not where you generate videos. its currently unavailable

[tall summit]

you don't really know what a spectrum is innit

[crimson escarp]

Do we have other platforms like LMArena?? am interested in ones offering access to GPT-image

[tall summit]

oh its ai generated

no

what are you on about

because who are corporations to decide

they're nothing

if anything, corporate ais should simply be beholden to laws

[rich dragon]

Image to video

[native vale]

How to make video ?

[novel bronze]

Yess

[icy drift]

Idk if the devs of lmarena are aware that some people (like me) can't access lmarena because of the 403 forbidden error

[sweet knot]

Why is Leaderboard info is dated by the 28th of August? Isn't it being updated? Thank you?!

[fluid lotus]

can anyone tell me how to join video arena

[ocean vortex]

I think someone submitted this request like couple of days ago without realizing it lmao

by asking if there's gonna be login at some point

[kindred tundra]

gpt-5-high
Something went wrong with this response, please try again.

[kindred tundra]

How to fix this

[ocean vortex]

did you listen to it?

[kindred tundra]

Wyw

Wym

[ocean vortex]

Did you try again? 💀

[zinc rampart]

/image-to-video

[kindred tundra]

Bro ofc and also rejoin to the web

[ocean vortex]

Seems their website is not very stable atm

[kindred tundra]

Are they got app?

[ocean vortex]

I'm also getting failed to submit feedback like on 50% of attempts

[kindred tundra]

Uhh but I another chat all its okay

Can I copy my chat history to another chat?

[ocean vortex]

You can't. It's also a good indication that your message history might be what breaks it though

Maybe it's beyond the context window length and they don't have trimming, which would return API error

[round marsh]

Hi

[vivid gyro]

hi everyone

[indigo hazel]

without the arena today is not a good day

[flat flax]

fair

[thorny lily]

Hi😂

[bright ginkgo]

Hello

[hasty sierra]

Image to video??

[ripe mountain]

gpt sota

lmao

why

use prompt optimizer

https://platform.openai.com/chat/edit?optimize=true

nahhh

[vale vortex]

Heyoo

Is it only me but I can't access Lmarena?

[ripe mountain]

?

[ripe mountain]

1second

no site is working

[vale vortex]

Hmm it says "HTTP ERROR 403"

[ripe mountain]

use different browser

[hoary scroll]

Why

[ripe mountain]

site is working? why why?

[vale vortex]

I used both Chrome & Bing and i couldn't access it as well

[hoary scroll]

Eror

[ripe mountain]

hmm idk

the site is working for me

[paper axle]

Eror?

[kindred tundra]

gpt-5-high
Something went wrong with this response, please try again.

[vale vortex]

Do you use adblocker? I'm curious

[ripe mountain]

try again

[obtuse heart]

is the site down? it keeps giving me failed to accept terms of service or something

[ripe mountain]

yes

[kindred tundra]

I try 15x time

[indigo hazel]

now it works

[kindred tundra]

And reload page alot

[hoary scroll]

until when

[ripe mountain]

idk

[hoary scroll]

😭

[tight fossil]

I think it's either the API or the site itself. Sometimes it succeeds, sometimes it takes more than 200 seconds and still fails to generate, and sometimes it says the site host isn’t responding

[vale vortex]

Hmm for me it's "you don't have authorization to view this page"

[tawny void]

?

[lapis shard]

How can I convert image to video

[coral jungle]

Hello there

[cold lance]

hello

[sick vigil]

Hello

@cold lancehello

[gusty kiln]

Hey there

[pale needle]

thanks

[copper moth]

hey

[strange spruce]

where are the servers

[dense owl]

hi, does one of you know how to get permission to write in one of the video-arena chanel ?

[runic island]

Does anyone else notice that they now need to create a user to use the page? I did it but it still gives me an error

[granite heron]

The LMArena bot and video arena channels are currently unavailable. Our team is looking into fixing the problems with the bot. Until then, the #video-arena-1, #video-arena-2 and #video-arena-3 generation channels would be closed and the bot cannot be used in this channel. We appreciate your patience

[vapid stag]

Why can't I log in? You don't have enough time to post messages on this channel.

[deft locust]

@vapid stag

[gleaming roost]

website offline?

[tight oriole]

eta when back?

[tender sorrel]

hello

[exotic nebula]

guys which is the worst ai model on lmarena.ai ?

[carmine kernel]

hellow everyone :] nice to meet you, where are you from? What country?

[carmine kernel]

rey2

[exotic nebula]

?

[exotic nebula]

Phillipines

[ripe mountain]

qwen3 max is released

omg

[carmine kernel]

from Luma I thing that from all of this which are avalaible on LMArena rey2 is the worst. It's just my opinion :]

[marble pendant]

hi

[rapid fox]

supp

[fading rover]

Every one generation this goes for hour

[carmine kernel]

When video-arena is not working is a good opportunity to get know each other a little bit :]

[stray kettle]

Hey, the chats disappeared for some reason, i wasnt logged into the website, but it used to save in local

[tender sorrel]

hello

[gleaming roost]

It's not working again yet?

[mortal nexus]

hey

[stray kettle]

Its working, but my chats has been deleted

[gleaming roost]

Any message I try to send gives this error

[storm ermine]

Guys do you know a place where you can convert photos to videos for free without a credit card?

[foggy heath]

Ok

[gleaming roost]

If you are not logged in and create many chats at some point your browser resets, at least that's what happened to me

[glossy umbra]

go into your cookies and save your auth token

thats your account token

if it gets removed/replaced then your account is gone unless ur signed up with google

[stray kettle]

So thats what happened probably

I wasnt logged

[gleaming roost]

ohh

[dense sphinx]

I can't enter LMarena

[stray kettle]

Then boom, I lost everything suddenly

[glossy umbra]

yup

[stray kettle]

I wish I could restore

Unfortunally I can't, right?

[glossy umbra]

if you use brave you might be able to restore them

i dont know about google

[boreal saddle]

Yeah, it is not working for me either.

[glossy umbra]

the website is down . wait until it gets fixed

[boreal saddle]

Jeez, the outages are growing more and more frequent.

[glossy umbra]

not here buddy

[glossy umbra]

the site's down

[fading rover]

Since introduction of login and some ui change we keep crashing delaying a lot

[boreal saddle]

Finally, I am through.

[glossy umbra]

have mercy on them, it's a free service after all

[boreal saddle]

Yeah, LMArena is a godsend for people who cant afford the fees for the AIs.

[fading rover]

Yea the. Best one so far

[gleaming roost]

🥰

[exotic nebula]

sheesh thats really good

[empty elk]

Pingin kanya d vidio in bos

[exotic nebula]

sure!

[viscid cloak]

server down?(accessing from Japan)

[glossy umbra]

it is down for some and up for others.

[high hound]

An interesting free service. the catch is that you pay with the information you send in.

Personally it doesnt bother me. Makes LLMs way better over time. Allows for great research.

I would keep sending in my data at the cost of using the service for relatively free.

[jade ocean]

how do i upload files on lm arena chat gpt

[glossy umbra]

Personally same.

[lost patrol]

too bad - no open source 🙁

[clear prawn]

Image to video Can't do it again?

[neon idol]

Is a good model?

[spare karma]

hello
is there a problem with the video generating ??

[echo aurora]

Yes, the video bot isn't working right now. #video-arena-1 message

cc @clear prawn ^

[spring spoke]

H

[clear prawn]

@echo aurora okey, thanks information

[ocean gulch]

how much time it will take to fix any idea...

[kindred horizon]

Hi

[echo aurora]

Sorry to say I don't have an ETA for you.

[obtuse heart]

who are these bots filling general

[zealous sparrow]

im trying to get this new minecraft AI to tell me what model its running on, but seeing it fail simple questions, makes me believe it runs purely on a dataset

[potent glacier]

Did LMArena kick anyone else out of their Gmail?

[zealous sparrow]

might be down idk

cant accept ToU

@echo aurora is the site down? Cant accept the ToU and constant connection fails

[glossy umbra]

Down for some, up for others.

[zealous sparrow]

interesting

[obtuse heart]

whats w the increasing amount of people doing the figurine thing with nano-banana

[lilac estuary]

Site fail

[glossy umbra]

Trend. Nothing special.

[glossy umbra]

For some is up, others is down.

[dense sphinx]

What is wrong with site??

Why I can't enter again?

[glossy umbra]

For some is up, for others is down.

[dense sphinx]

😩

[lilac estuary]

noo

[glossy umbra]

Wait until the issue gets fixed.

[dense sphinx]

This is fully absurd.

[glossy umbra]

It is a free service. Have mercy.

[tame ledge]

chill, lmarena is free

[glossy umbra]

Not here.

[quartz crest]

help me why

[iron ridge]

heloo

[glossy umbra]

Site is down for some, and up for others. Wait until the issue gets fixed.

[quartz crest]

oh okk

[tame ledge]

I wonder how many more whats wrong with the web mssg we will get here lol

[glossy umbra]

Site is down for some, and up for others. Wait until the issue gets fixed.

[normal abyss]

the website gone down quite alot in the last week not quite sure why

[glossy umbra]

Not here brother.

[glossy umbra]

Updates. It's a free service though.

[normal abyss]

yeah thats true

[lapis meadow]

where?

[green plume]

Same lol

site is down

guys

[narrow dawn]

bruh

[green plume]

yall are not alone

dont worry

[glossy umbra]

If you want to create videos, go in #video-arena-1 or #video-arena-2 or #video-arena-3.
Be wary - currently they're disabled. You cannot use them as of now.

[gleaming roost]

oh man i was logged in and my sessions disappeared... it's really bad

[tight oriole]

why dead?

[glossy umbra]

Site is down for some, and up for others. Wait until the issue gets fixed.

[polar marlin]

😭

[glossy umbra]

If you are not logged in with Google, be sure to save your Account token. That way you don't lose your account. It can get replaced if you delete cookies accidentally.

I suggest linking with Google though.

[harsh shoal]

hello for all people

[neon idol]

@echo aurora lmarena.ai site dont work

[glossy umbra]

Site is down for some, and up for others. Wait until the issue gets fixed.

[neon idol]

Wth of ai are you?

[tame ledge]

Oh yeah, dont worry, i saved my stuff into my google account, the previous chat dissapearance was prior to login update

[glossy umbra]

I'm not an AI buddy I'm just helping people that rush in here pinging staff because the "site doesn't work", with a 5 second tiktok timespan unable to read up.

[echo aurora]

Hey everyone - I'm sorry to say we're experiencing an outage. The team has been. made aware and are working on a fix ASAP. My apologies for the inconvenience. We're working to get this fixed as soon as we can.

[neon idol]

Uhm ok?

[ashen plaza]

Just make a big @ everyone ping in announcements about this

[glossy umbra]

I dont think thats a good idea.

[ashen plaza]

Don't be afraid to flex your admin role

[indigo hazel]

gpt 5 high is hacking lmarena

[spare lava]

What's the point of that

[rugged lantern]

Thanks again

[ashen plaza]

So it gets a lot of people to stop saying 'hey website is down' and so on it won't stop all but i imagine the number would significantly decrease

[glossy umbra]

The same people that cannot scroll up the chat, or yet use the search tool.

[tame ledge]

you're lowkey giving this pic loll "Site is down for some, and up for others. Wait until the issue gets fixed" 😆

[viral notch]

trying to sign in to lmarena.ai with my google account and this is what i get after clicking "sign in with google"

[glossy umbra]

Scroll up the chat buddy.

[glossy umbra]

^

[viral notch]

got it

[solemn verge]

😆

[echo aurora]

I'm not going to drop a ping but yeah good call putting something in the announcement channel 👍

[spare lava]

Gpt 5 high writes to much. Don't like it.

[lapis meadow]

That's what Google does so that you pay for its tools and not so that you use what's free. That's always the case when something is free and they take it out.

[glossy umbra]

It's the opposite for me.

[tame ledge]

same

gpt5 is literally if cut to the chase is a person, if theres an ai that super talkative, its gotta be gpt4o

[lucid wind]

hi. still no acces lmarena?

[tame ledge]

no, not yet

[lucid wind]

tks rrin

[viral notch]

gpt5 high is pretty concise actually. what are you asking it thats making it responding verbosely?

if anything grok writes too much. lol

[spare lava]

I write stories so I want the scenes to be readable without being too long. Gpt 5 write too much.

[glossy umbra]

That explains it. If you use it for different purposes it might act differently. For code it's concise.

[hard quiver]

Is the site down or just me?

[stuck kindle]

???????????

[spare lava]

Scroll up

[spare lava]

Maybe. But I use deepseek v3 for story writing. Love it

[potent glacier]

Why does no one read smh

[echo aurora]

We are experiencing an outage at the moment. @hard quiver

#announcements message

[green plume]

i hope

that all our chats

will be deleted

lol jk

gl guys dont worry

[hard quiver]

Nanobanana's fault

[green plume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935650952009117816/1074604591158669333/togif-4.gif

[potent glacier]

@echo aurora It seems that the site issues have steadily been getting worse every day

Maybe the influx in traffic?

I thought the site was built to handle a high load but Idk

[echo aurora]

Yeah the last three days these outages have been happening. It's not okay and something we'll make site reliability better.

[spare lava]

Welp...that's one way to put it

[neon idol]

Nah

[neon idol]

Model that you used?

Ok man

[radiant rampart]

So, my chats will be deleted again?

[viral notch]

i think if you didn't have your chats when they were signed in... yeah they're gone

[neon idol]

Yeah I also think that

[viral notch]

just speaking from experience

[glossy umbra]

Hey sorry for what he said. ❤️

I used Nano-Banana btw. 😁

[viral notch]

browser cookies wont keep your chats forever

[neon idol]

Nano banana can do that?

Damn is impressive

[unkempt elk]

yea mine got deleted too sometimes without even deleting cookies

[radiant rampart]

Yes, I didn't go in. But if I go in from Google, then, therefore, I will be able to save them? I didn't read about updating with login, meh.

[viral notch]

oh wow, that sucks. i only lost mine in outages

[viral notch]

i think theres a better chance but it hasnt been tested yet

[unkempt elk]

my two important chat got deleted where one was an ongoing project
well i mananaged to get back where i was with some saved MD prompt

[neon idol]

Prompt made by you?

[flat bear]

where is the websitge

[glossy umbra]

Down

[glossy umbra]

Yes but it rendered weird. Google might have some issues.

[echo aurora]

It's possible. Unfortunately, the does tend to happen when we experience an outage.

[tame oak]

Lmarena.ai Unable to reach the site

[glossy umbra]

Down

[echo aurora]

We're working on getting User Login rolled out to as many people as we can.

[potent glacier]

I am glad I have user login

[neon idol]

Me too

[potent glacier]

My chats will be there when it comes back

[neon idol]

Honestly Idc about my chats

[viral notch]

if you're not gonna sign in, i would save the prompts of your most important convos. and to use the same model(s) so the conversation is generated the most similarly (but not the most exact because LLM communication is not fully deterministic)

[unkempt elk]

ya
but now i'm signed in so no worries now ig

[radiant rampart]

Got it. Btw, if I log in through a Google account, will they be saved somehow or not?

[tame oak]

Don't know

[glossy umbra]

The site is down

[viral notch]

well we'll see if signing in does anything. likely, but not determined yet

[unkempt elk]

oh so not sure ha
ok np

[tame oak]

Why did it close

[glossy umbra]

It is not closed. It's just down.

Same for video arena

[radiant rampart]

btw
guys
I love you all, have a good day
I'm gonna have dinner.

[flat bear]

bring it back

[glossy umbra]

They will be back up

[viral notch]

lmarena works for me, just the signing in doesnt

[tame oak]

Thank you

[viral notch]

have a good one

[glossy umbra]

It works for some and doesn't for others.

[glossy umbra]

Enjoy your meal.

[echo aurora]

Yes, if you're logged in your chats will save, even post outages.

[viral notch]

sweet, im staying with logging in now

[neon idol]

Lucky you

[mortal coyote]

website down again ??

[sharp glacier]

Hallo

[mortal coyote]

same

[wanton vortex]

🫤

[viral notch]

oh its all back for me, awesome! i can sign in again

guys i recommend using chrome for lmarena

[minor burrow]

@echo aurora Why haven’t you introduced a feature to attach files with the prompt? If you add that feature, it would be really useful.

[lavish lodge]

I have the same

[willow zenith]

How can I use nano banana ?

[crimson fractal]

By lm arena and gemini

[echo aurora]

We for sure want to, we currently working on other features, More hiring is happening though so we hope to build faster.

[wanton vortex]

@echo aurora

[echo aurora]

We're currently experiencing an outage. cc @lavish lodge

#announcements message

[neon idol]

Poor pineapple 🤣

[echo aurora]

Lol it's all good, I don't mind at all

[glossy umbra]

I wouldn’t take pineapples job if I wasn’t paid. Paycheck must be good

[pine knoll]

Server's down?

[pine knoll]

Oh

[pine knoll]

+1 xd

[echo aurora]

We have an outage happening at the moment sorry to say. Team is working on a fix.

[pine knoll]

Take ur time!

[wanton vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/sticker-yung-joc-crying-meme-man-crying-meme-thebeyonderrrr-gif-828328460466032722

[glossy umbra]

😁
That’s good to see. Other people are disappointed. After all it’s a free service.

[wanton vortex]

pleaseee

be quick

[fierce cove]

My friend, thank you. This site experiences issues two to three times weekly. I offer this feedback solely for improvement

[glossy umbra]

Let’s be patient.

[wanton vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-gif-40123618314459872

[glossy umbra]

Let’s be respectful. It’s a free service.

[echo aurora]

It is sorry to say.

[fierce cove]

I understand, but personally, I no longer feel secure. I constantly fear another incident will occur, as my test chats have been deleted twice already

[viral notch]

@echo aurora when the site goes through an outage mid-reply, the bots seem to be stuck in their attempt to reply. do you think you guys can fix this somehow? like terminating these endless "generating" phases when they go on too long?