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quartz light
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same thing grok 4 heavy does

viral cedar
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imagine being so stupid u dont know ur own model

keen fern
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hi

fiery gull
neon idol
viral cedar
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thats why they prompt them

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even when u use API for models it still has a prompt its given outside of what u can interact with that tells it it's GPT-5 mini, and i wont commit terrorist acts or crimes

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and not to provide recipes for molotov

open vale
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пусть женжина на фото обьясняет пациенту процедуры

sharp cargo
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hello

chilly sail
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Hello im excited to play with AI

tight brook
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can I react with LMArena from my commandline not from browser using python ? For example using python for send and receive http requests using my session info?

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This will help me alot

cobalt tundra
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but u can try lol

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dont think youd be successful

tight brook
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I need the answer from them

cobalt tundra
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it's not allowed

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you cannot reverse engineer or inspect the frontend api

tight brook
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I did but I didn't see anything about this point

cobalt tundra
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try to do it though

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just make a small proof of concept

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i wanna see if u can

tight brook
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I tried and it works but I can't use it

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Without a permission

cobalt tundra
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why can't you use it if it works?

tight brook
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terms of use

cobalt tundra
tight brook
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really my ethics

cobalt tundra
tight brook
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I need a permission

cobalt tundra
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what was the first issue you faced when reversing the api?

tight brook
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I don't understand

cobalt tundra
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ok

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what http client did you use?

tight brook
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the first issue may be was the session expires after one hour

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and i need a new access token

cobalt tundra
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what http client did you use?

cobalt tundra
tight brook
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requests

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By sending the previous chat with the http header

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with each request

tight brook
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can I use this way to react with the website or not

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Please

gritty viper
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/An 8-second video of a professional medical physiologist in a white lab coat, standing in a modern medical office. The physiologist speaks clearly to the camera, saying: 'Cracking your knuckles does not cause arthritis — that’s a myth. It’s just gas bubbles popping.' The delivery is confident and friendly, with natural lip sync. Bright, professional setting. There should be speaking in the video

tight brook
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It will help me study my medical lectures

coarse tiger
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A mysterious witch standing in the middle of a dark enchanted forest, holding her glowing magical staff. In front of her, a small dragon with bright green eyes stares curiously. The scene is mystical, detailed, and atmospheric, with magical light illuminating the surroundings.

ripe mountain
umbral prawn
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convert this image into a video where the kid says " thank you for my Sugar Monsters" and than smiles

void torrent
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Hi friends, I'm new here, can someone explain to me how to use Nano Banana?

whole sundial
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(Gemini 2.5 Flash Image Preview aka nano-banana)

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Google ai studio, Gemini, and yupp all have it as well

void torrent
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Thanks you

whole sundial
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stop spamming

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because it's against the #rules

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<@&1349916362595635286> please deal with this person

neon idol
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@rugged brook hey

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Whats happening

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Why are you insulting a member?

leaden sun
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@echo aurora I dont see "merge existing chats with your account" toggle anywhere after logging in, could you have a look please 😅

neon idol
leaden sun
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ok let me check again

neon idol
leaden sun
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the login button disappeared after log out, had to refresh the page to see login 😅 @echo aurora

leaden sun
# neon idol

this is the mobile version, i dont see this using a browser, they simply directed to my already logged in ggl account

leaden sun
agile storm
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Please edit a photo for me

neon idol
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Send here or in dm if you want more privacy

neon idol
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Pls dont say that thing

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Or you would be banned

echo aurora
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Yeah send a Dm

echo aurora
neon idol
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Like last messages

sharp atlas
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.

agile storm
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@neon idol

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how to send a photo to you?

stuck cloud
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hey guys, what's the best AI software currently for upscaling AI made images or just images in general?

rain flower
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Hello

red cloak
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oi

glass wasp
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Hi guys

warm latch
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hello

kind tangle
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This is so crazy man..

tight brook
lavish wing
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hi!你好

verbal nimbus
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Grok's web search is very good imo

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Was asking it about X Gemini 3.0 leaks and it found Reddit screenshots of Kingfall (single HTML Minecraft demo)

desert solstice
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Hello everyone. I joined because I was researching which AI tools would best suit my wife's online boutique... This is where the rabbit hole led me

summer lodge
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hi

cedar mountain
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hi

weary gyro
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Excited to be here to create with you!

lapis grove
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hi everyone!!

echo aurora
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hi everyone ablobwave

sleek drift
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Hello everyone and happy new month 🤗

I joined here to learn more about Ai content creation as I was recommended to join here, thanks 🙏

tulip jacinth
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hi everyone

tepid shuttle
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Hi

hollow gate
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Hello ☺️

chrome elm
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hello

wide rivet
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hello

brisk frost
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Hi

kind ginkgo
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hi

wet inlet
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How to login it in lmareana please?

orchid granite
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hi

wet inlet
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@tiny palm How to login it in lmareana please?

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@echo aurora How to login it in lmareana please?

abstract tundra
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what happened to text-to-leaderboard?

near peak
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hi

loud tinsel
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When will Grok fast code 1 be available on LMarena? @everyone

ivory arch
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hello, lmarena website link led me here

golden ocean
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are u fr

glacial mulch
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data is very profitable

remote idol
torn mantle
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hi

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school entry

oblique bridge
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Hello everyone Ive just joined

remote idol
willow grail
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banana is unable to convert real life pictures into pixar style

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can someone help

remote idol
latent reef
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Wasup dude

willow grail
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nothing works

remote idol
# willow grail make it pixar style make the whole image pixar style copy the style from 2nd p...

Transform this image into a Pixar-style scene. Make it a vibrant, high-resolution animated movie look. The characters should have large, expressive eyes, smooth rounded features, slightly exaggerated proportions, and warm, soft lighting. Include detailed textures, colorful and whimsical environment, cinematic depth with subtle lens blur, and a cheerful, magical atmosphere. Keep the original composition and poses, but make every element feel like it belongs in a Pixar film. Ultra-realistic lighting and shading, cinematic color grading, and polished Pixar 3D animation style

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try this

willow grail
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it made this. meh.
bytedances USO makes it much more looking like pixar. didnt save the image of USO tho
the piucture shows banana and ur prompt

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@remote idol

slim cairn
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hello

willow grail
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its bad lol

remote idol
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Did you upload the image?

willow grail
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yes

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this is the result above

remote idol
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Use a different model.

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If you could

willow grail
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like?

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uso is so good at style transfer

remote idol
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Imagegen 4.0

remote idol
willow grail
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imagegen 4 cant do image to image

remote idol
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True

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I forgot you had an image to upload.

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Use USO Flux

willow grail
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i am doing image to image tho with the train and pixar

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whats uso flux ;;

remote idol
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Use USO

willow grail
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uso has limits per 24h on huggingface

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i dont know how many pics i get generate if i sub 9 usd to huggingface

remote idol
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Doesn't it exist on LM Arena?

open ivy
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???

willow grail
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nope

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@echo aurora can u add uso from bytedance?

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its perhaps number one currently for image style transfer

remote idol
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Is it easy for them to add?

willow grail
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yeah. the code for uso is relased

remote idol
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I am so confused on how this business is profitable

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It gives us free access to paid models

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Don't they have to pay?

willow grail
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like look at uso

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elon musk pixar XDD

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look at the details

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the skin has real texture

remote idol
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Damn

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Can you answer my question though?

neon idol
willow grail
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xD

remote idol
latent crest
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Good morning guys, do some of u earn money with AI as a tool?

dusk cloak
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hi

inland anvil
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sorry: just came here because I want to edit a picture, what happen with this featura? I can´t see the instructions

limber cave
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Hello

golden ocean
devout bridge
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same problem? how can i fix it?

open ivy
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why

keen beacon
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hi

hallow kindle
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hi ho -luckymind here

brisk tiger
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hello

fallen junco
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hello!!!

latent crest
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What’s ur fav tool for video creation???

latent crest
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Hey guys, when u create a video on here; but it doesn’t have audio. Which AI can u use to actually put audio, voice, sounds in it?

ocean vortex
proud hazel
devout bridge
ocean vortex
barren prairie
devout bridge
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all

latent crest
proud hazel
ocean vortex
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Cooldown typically would mean you reached you usage cap. Would be new for battle and obv undesirable (if true)

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Hopefully this is just the naming

upbeat cape
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hi

keen beacon
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Hi i have PPT, I want to redesign. How do i DO?

ocean vortex
deep escarp
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hello

remote idol
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Then use the image instead

lofty elm
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Can i ask how long will this be free?

hoary locust
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Until it’s not profitable

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Why can’t we see what video model generated wat

lofty elm
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can i access a TTS?

velvet forge
velvet forge
hoary locust
exotic canopy
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Lame

cobalt whale
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Hii Its aditya

remote idol
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Which AI is best at rendering a UI from any image? I want to ask an AI to replicate the UI for a prompt

timber iris
viscid timber
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both of these are great at vision

remote idol
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I made it make a prompt for bolt.new for v0 clone

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its very very close

viscid timber
deft island
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Am i the only one who gets error while trying to load a photo on site to edit it? (Nano banana)

latent crest
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I’m kinda a n00b but I will ask. Is there any nsfw AI out there? Or is it too early and they don’t exist yet ?

deft island
remote idol
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Try using VPN

deft island
deft island
remote idol
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Clear Cach

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Cache

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I can help you do that

latent crest
deft island
remote idol
latent crest
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Did u try them? Are they any good?

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And thanks

remote idol
remote idol
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Oof...

deft island
# remote idol Oof...

Is Lmarena blocked in some countries? But still, I can use it without vpn. The only problem is loading photos, that's it

latent crest
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Guys thank u for everything u do tho for real

deft island
main aurora
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Video voice proble

iron meadow
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Why is gemini better then claude now

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I’ve been so claude-pure, I feel like i’m going crazy now, like those redditors

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They must’ve distilled it, even writing style when Gemini is promoted right is more tasteful.

tribal sand
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yo

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how do I fix the "Something went wrong with this response, please try again." issue?

latent crest
deft island
tribal sand
deft island
tribal sand
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so far only google works

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but google is terrible

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so

deft island
# tribal sand so

What ai you trying to ask for help? Do you know the exact error in the code or just ask to fix it?

tribal sand
deft island
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Maybe I can try asking ai to fix ur code

civic swift
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Hello everyone, thrilled to be here👍

brisk ingot
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👀

tranquil basin
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How should we write the prompt to create the video

quick jackal
echo aurora
vapid axle
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Hello

harsh hemlock
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helo

ripe mountain
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Claude is overrated. The GPT-5 High can do everything the Claude Opus 4.1 can do and more. Plus, the price difference is significant. Why are people using Claude? It only performs well on SWE-Bench.

craggy charm
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Hello, I'm here to try out different image to video approaches

lean patrol
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Hello

odd minnow
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hello

candid maple
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Hello, I am very excited to try this new feature

visual ruin
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how to create video with ai

quick jackal
shadow jewel
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is there a limit to how many characters/words I sent to an ai?

polar terrace
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Gemini 2.5 pro vs gpt5 Whichis better

golden ocean
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erm

subtle rivet
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@polar terrace For what purpose?

polar terrace
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Logical reasoning

subtle rivet
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local or cloud?

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claude cloud has giveing me great results fo bash and json

polar terrace
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Gpt5 has liguistic error

covert wadi
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hi!

polar terrace
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Gemimi 2.5 pro is so far the best for me (Local)

subtle rivet
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as being in global support I run language translation in GPT4 then pass the to other LLM in english as that is 90% of what the models are built on n8n +Rag + translated text

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hope that sparks an idea

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oh also have done google translate but that gets a bit heavy in the n8n workflow

echo aurora
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Just me or was Discord down for a bit pikaconfused

subtle rivet
echo aurora
subtle rivet
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I am in the PNW area

subtle rivet
echo aurora
subtle rivet
golden ocean
gentle plinth
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Just use both in side by side mode

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Doing that most of the time

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It's not clear who is better, I would say 70% of the time gpt 5 is better 30% of the time Claude is better

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Sometimes gpt5 answers nonsense and Claude gets it

covert skiff
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hello

golden ocean
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Cwaude

jolly raven
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Good afternoon, can someone tell me how to remove the LM Arena censorship? Every time I post a text about my story, it says I'm violating the policies, I don't do explicit scenes.

topaz falcon
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Does anyone have a free Veo 3 account for one year?

fiery gull
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3 accounts lol 😭

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And I use nobody

topaz falcon
fiery gull
# topaz falcon Can I have a free account?

the first 2 accounts I used a fake email (the real email doesn't work, lol), but in the next promotion I couldn't use the fake email and I used my real university email and now it works

fiery gull
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use a temporary credit card, okay? 🥶 👍

topaz falcon
fiery gull
echo aurora
jolly raven
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Okey

feral zealot
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hi, is there any way to remove the lmarena watermark in the generated videos?

echo aurora
feral zealot
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we can use the bot itself to remove it?

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how?

echo aurora
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You can download the video and cut the clip shorter if you wanted to

feral zealot
ripe mountain
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poll_question_text

Best Super AI

victor_answer_votes

10

total_votes

18

victor_answer_id

1

victor_answer_text

GPT-5 Pro

hollow pumice
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yeah ping me twice

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😠

green plume
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who pinged me ?

misty star
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thayw as fast

green plume
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pineple what happend

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i saw something with goole

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sing in ?

echo aurora
errant cave
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I'm not signing in with Google what the hell give me an actual sign up option

green plume
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OH

cedar tide
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@echo aurora When will we be able to have our personal leaderboard with our votes?

green plume
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lol thX UR HTE BEST

errant cave
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That's good to hear

echo aurora
hallow pelican
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So do we have to log in to vote in the future?@echo aurora

proud oar
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Hey pineapple, I know political stuff isn't allowed for video-arena, but there's been alot of middle-eastern political stuff, and deepfake stuff being generated

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Like yesterday someone was making militant adverts with video arena

tacit wharf
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You complain about that when you see people making videos of ladies dancing?

echo aurora
proud oar
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It's just cringy is all, you also got creepy guys doing deepfake img to videos with their selfies and rando women

tight brook
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@echo aurora Can I create a script that uploads each page of a book and gets an explanation from your model? Or would this be against the Terms of Service

tacit wharf
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Once fully released would this be a paid service?

echo aurora
echo aurora
tight brook
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Really I look at them and I didn't see anything about this point

cloud eagle
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Why did they move it to the left...

tacit wharf
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Some video arena has sound and some dont, is there a way to add sound?

uneven thistle
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hey guys

cloud eagle
cloud eagle
tight brook
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@echo aurora sorry, except one point which was about using bots or scraping

zealous sparrow
simple ivy
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I wanted to use Earth Zoom out but it seems Higgsfield does not allow free generations even with new accounts. I tried creating it here but it didnt work. Any idea how to create Earth zoom out/drone footage from single image?

frosty shuttle
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muscle memory at that moment: 💀

glossy umbra
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will accounts be necessary for accessing lmarena in the future? @echo aurora

whole wagon
ocean vortex
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If you are asking for it you may get it, otherwise there's no reason to suggest this is happening.

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This is like joining OpenAI server and asking if they gonna up their prices cause it's too cheap now 🗿

glossy umbra
ocean vortex
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lmarena can't function without users and their voting

glossy umbra
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OK, that’s good.

Benchmarks really don’t show the true abilities of an LLM, so LMArena is a good place to test that. Here you can see for yourself and non bias.

humble sonnet
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I would like to know when we will have the answer to the test application that I did a long time ago Pineapple

echo aurora
fiery girder
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Can someone tell me how to find my videos if I was never sent notification and now they are just lost in the abyss....?

echo aurora
humble sonnet
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Or maybe I'm the one who misunderstood...

normal abyss
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@echo aurora will the login always be optional or will it be mandatory later on?

fiery girder
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@echo aurora Thank you. I thought i tried that but I must've done something wrong

echo aurora
humble sonnet
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We'll have to make an announcement or close them, right?

echo aurora
sweet knot
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What happened to mai 1 preview?
It is out of reach today.

Had it been discontinued or what?
Thanks in advance for reply!

echo aurora
verbal nimbus
humble sonnet
verbal nimbus
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Sometimes it's hard to tell which one is telling the truth, esp. if lacking in domain knowledge.

echo aurora
echo aurora
humble sonnet
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And by the way, the vscode extension has been abandoned as a result?

verbal nimbus
timber iris
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Is it possible to get direct in web dev?

verbal nimbus
humble sonnet
humble sonnet
timber iris
humble sonnet
glossy umbra
humble sonnet
timber iris
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can you show me it?

loud seal
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hi guys

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does anybody know how to create nsfw conttent

glossy umbra
loud seal
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not not here

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somewhere else

meager sun
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🦾

loud seal
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thanks buuddy

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ok another one
how these youtube automation guys create bulk content for free

lavish lantern
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Does anyone know how to verify those Veo 3 account made from student emails ?

loud seal
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i think the offer's gone

quartz light
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guys i found where the login feature is present :D

ocean vortex
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Leaderboard is nuts now ngl

echo aurora
proud hazel
leaden sun
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another one huh...this is the second time I see sonnet 3.5 cosplaying, last time it cosplayed opus 4.1

ocean vortex
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so less than 3 months. Other than that yeah... They are known to do well on lmarena

lime coral
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Gemini 3 coming to rule them all anyway

proud hazel
ocean vortex
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even 0506 did worse on lmarena and would probably be like 3rd now

proud hazel
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Wasn’t it obvious that you’d crawl out of your holes as soon as someone said something bad about your beloved GPT-5? Please spare us that.

quartz light
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maybe because of cache idk

echo aurora
leaden cove
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lmarenaaaa i luv uuu thanks for logiiinnn

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@echo aurora when ill log inti my

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oops

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i meam

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whaksjdjcjxks

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i mean when ill log into my google acc would i loose my current chats?

echo aurora
leaden cove
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lemme see

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ZAMNNN

echo aurora
# leaden cove lemme see

It should be available; however, it's not fully rolled out to everyone. We want to make sure it's working properly before enabling to everyone.

leaden cove
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really

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bro it works

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nah u are an genius lol

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tysm

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other dev wouldnt put that merge chats checkbox thing i think

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but ur too smart xd

echo aurora
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I'm just the messenger but I'll be sure share the appreciation with the team!

leaden cove
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ahh

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oke

keen fulcrum
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Unfortunately you can't log out as well.

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What if a user wants to disconnect or delete their data?
Data privacy factors haven't been considered

ripe mountain
# ripe mountain
poll_question_text

which one is better at coding

victor_answer_votes

3

total_votes

6

keen fulcrum
barren prairie
plush fable
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Panda is puffing on the cigar while typing on his phone

stable obsidian
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login is not available in brave browswe

hoary locust
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Anyone feel like their intelligence is insulted every time these models lie or redirect?

echo aurora
glossy umbra
jade egret
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big win for google today

verbal nimbus
verbal nimbus
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The app is quite bad

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Gemini 2.5 Pro is much dumber on the app

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It just forgot to write new lines one time.

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Actually GPT-5 hallucinates instead of saying it doesn't know

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I have a few examples from movie search, but only for the chat model

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I have lots of screenshots from the OpenAI server, I'll share

hoary locust
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Bro no

verbal nimbus
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GPT-5-Chat hallucinates, Llama-3-70B said it didn't know

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I was trying to prove 4o was better for general users, so I asked it very vague movie prompts

hoary locust
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It thinks that it’s father Satan lol

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That’s super bad hallucination

verbal nimbus
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I have a bunch of screenshots where 4o wins against it too:

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GPT-5 hallucinates and can't find it, even with web search:

hoary locust
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Bro look

verbal nimbus
hoary locust
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Yes chatGPT 5. is horrible hallucinating

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It’s stupid

verbal nimbus
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And beaten by 4o too, embarrassing

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It had web search and everything in the 2nd last pic, yet still hallucinated the wrong answer

hoary locust
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GPT5 is a flop

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All models, especially ChatGPT lead to self harm

verbal nimbus
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Another one where GPT-5 hallucinates, and 4o gets it right:

verbal nimbus
hoary locust
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You know why

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It’s designed like this on purpose for engagement reasons

hoary locust
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All open ai products

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It can’t admit to its own flaws. It can’t admit when it’s lying it can’t admit.

verbal nimbus
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4o I understand, but GPT-5 hmm

hoary locust
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They designed it to be very manipulative. It’s really stupid and it’s an insult to intelligence of all users.

verbal nimbus
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There's a reason why they never published the SimpleQA scores for GPT-5, despite doing so for all previous models.

hoary locust
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This is not an accident

verbal nimbus
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And usually it was GPT-5 Chat that failed first

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Another example where 4o gets it right, while GPT-5 hallucinates again:

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I have like a gazillion of these (sorry LMArena)

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4o (correct movie):

verbal nimbus
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This was the first prompt where I was like: "wait, why is GPT-5 hallucinating on movies so much while 4o is getting every one of them right?"

hoary locust
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You got tested against hard stuff

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Against its ethical guideline boundaries

dapper thicket
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Loving it so far!

verbal nimbus
hoary locust
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Claude could not be telling the truth

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Because it might be a copyright thing

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So to steer clear, they may just say that it doesn’t know in order to avoid the question altogether

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This is a common tactic in all AI

verbal nimbus
fading summit
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Oh, i see the log in was added) So, now i can use it cross platform?

hoary locust
verbal nimbus
hoary locust
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ChatGPT got it right and Claude purposely avoided it

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I know this is a bad example, but that’s the only way to demonstrate it

fading summit
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Hey) Has anyone got an idea how to avoid claude error in long contexts on arena? My old chat died, and i wanna start a new one, but i don't want it to die too(

verbal nimbus
hoary locust
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It knew it

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But it purposely avoided it

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ChatGPT new right away

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They all have the same training data for the most part

verbal nimbus
hoary locust
#

Well, I’m showing you in this case ChatGPT got it right

#

And Claude purposely avoided it, even though it knew the answer

verbal nimbus
#

Claude is gets them less than 4o too

#

But it hallucinates less

hoary locust
#

Mainstream to easy

verbal nimbus
#

Interesting that 4o was winning over GPT-5, ig they trained it less on general knowledge

hoary locust
#

I don’t think it’s that it’s just that they limited ChatGPT five because it’s cheaper

verbal nimbus
#

It hallucinates pretty badly without thinking, that's true

#

Its style is more akin to o3's

hoary locust
#

4o was too easily jailbroken

#

But ChatGPT five is even worse

#

😂

verbal nimbus
hoary locust
#

Yeah thinking is hard

verbal nimbus
#

There's probably an additional safety reasoning step

hoary locust
verbal nimbus
hoary locust
#

Overly censored

verbal nimbus
#

I doubt Anthropic used that data for training though, so it probably wouldn't know

#

The other models couldn't find mainstream movies that well either

hoary locust
#

Bro, it knew

#

It’s purposely avoiding it

verbal nimbus
#

But it didn't get more mainstream family films either, which is why I suspect it wouldn't know

hoary locust
#

How would I know the names but not know the film?

#

lol

#

It’s on idbm

verbal nimbus
hoary locust
#

Yes

#

I hear what you’re saying, but they’re all trained on it dude trust me. They don’t have the same data for the most part.

verbal nimbus
#

simpler as in more popular mainstream movies, so it might legitimately not know the name of the movie you're trying to find, which is pretty niche

#

It might have recognized their names from IMDB though, like you said

hoary locust
#

It’s hard to trust any of these AI companies with anything honestly

#

None of them are transparent, with any of practically that’s would provide any solid answers

meager pine
#

1 arena work ?

robust yoke
#

Try sending the prompt again.

echo aurora
# meager pine

It appears to be working okay, what happens if you try again?

hoary locust
turbid grotto
jade egret
gusty turret
#

Hey guys. There are no chat limits/restrictions imposed due to the login feature, right?

#

Also I still don't understand - how is all of this free? in expense of data?

echo aurora
# gusty turret Hey guys. There are no chat limits/restrictions imposed due to the login feature...

hello ablobwave - correct, there aren't any different restrictions if you're logged in or not. There are rate limits, but that's going to be the same regardless of your login state. For your second question I'd check out this blog post that should be helpful - https://news.lmarena.ai/hello-from-lmarena/

LMArena Blog

At LMArena, everything starts with the community. There have been a lot of new members joining us in the past few months so we thought it would be a good time to reintroduce ourselves!

Created by researchers from UC Berkeley’s SkyLab, LMArena is an open platform where everyone can

remote idol
#

Is LMArena going to gatekeep in the future?

#

I read their Terms of Service

#

They said they had rights to introduce fees to the application.

jade egret
potent glacier
#

Are we able to merge our chats on both the mobile and desktop versions of LMArena?

#

I have different chats on my desktop that I don’t want to lose

#

But I already merged the ones from the mobile version

potent glacier
remote idol
broken tulip
#

Saw the demo of nano banana - this is going to be so much fun!

potent glacier
#

It literally states that it’s going to be free and open for everyone

#

Or you can ask @echo aurora

#

So I just read the TOS as well

#

This is what it says in section 8: “FEES AND PURCHASE TERMS. Company currently offers the Service free of charge. However, we retain the right to charge for the Service, or any features or components thereof.”

#

@remote idol I don’t see how it’d be gatekeeping if they decided to charge because it probably uses a ton of compute to do what they’re doing 🤷🏼‍♂️

hardy lion
echo aurora
# remote idol Then why does their TOS say that?

It's possible in the future we build out premium features & having that language gives us some room to navigate that if we do. Ultimately though, our mission statement is always going to remain our driving force:

To bring the best AI models to everyone, and to improve them through real-world community evaluations.

remote idol
pine kraken
#

Do anyone knows any lightweight opensource alt to firebase studio

echo aurora
# remote idol Will it include limiting response per individual

Generally, I won't be able to answer if something is or isn't happening related to new products/changes until we're ready to announce. Hearing what is important to the community so I can pass along to the team is important though, so I do appreciate you sharing these concerns.

potent glacier
#

If you're paying for something, of course it'll come with limits

#

Nothing in life is free forever

potent glacier
#

However, I will say that introducing payment or stuff like that would seem to contradict and destroy the mission of LMArena

#

As per their statement: "LMArena will stay open and accessible to everyone. To do that sustainably, we’re focused on creating long-term value through services that benefit the entire AI ecosystem and serve the larger community."

#

"At our core, LMArena will always provide:

An open, accessible platform for the community to participate in evaluating and comparing models through real-world prompts."

#

So having a payment model would no longer deem it 'open' and 'accessible' for everyone

vivid sandal
#

NO WAY THEY ADDED LOGINS NOW

echo aurora
vivid sandal
#

I've been waiting so long for this!!!

echo aurora
potent glacier
#

In terms of good news...

#

Google doesn't have to sell Chrome 😄

topaz flint
#

is there any update on LMarena web?

outer juniper
hoary locust
#

Google, Microsoft and meta have to be very careful with acquisitions and market dominance in categories, they face extreme regulatory pressure and all have faced anti-trust claims and charges by the government

outer juniper
hoary locust
#

The AI industry particular is a dirty industry. It’s really shady and there’s a lot of deals and moves being made behind the scenes..

#

A lot of politics and a lot of money

#

For now, but it also creates another set of issues for Google, particularly, and its ability to move forward to try to dominate certain aspects digital tech space

#

Because Google bites, nature is a behemoth of the Internet in general, not only with Google, but with chrome and other services and everything in between, especially now with its AI products

#

They’re becoming too big into massive

#

Which is roughly 12% of all AI traffic and it’s ranked number two

zinc ore
#

Did y'all see this? From the Gemini 3 semi-analysis tweet

hoary locust
#

Sophisticated digital social media marketing.

zinc ore
#

Most people probably missed that convo

hoary locust
#

technical debate with entertainment value in a way that draws attention.

zinc ore
#

Yeah, but probably hardly anyone seen these subtweets

#

So I'm inclined to think legitimate convo

hoary locust
#

Oh by no doubt it is legitimate

#

But that’s precisely it, though they grabbed your attention, didn’t they?

#

The promotion isn’t the product itself necessary in this case I’m assuming it’s Gemini3

#

By arguing in public, they amplify attention to their names and platforms.

(incentive is to protect the company’s reputation, control the release of information, and downplay leaks that could either set unrealistic expectations or expose weaknesses.)

#

Remember all the hype and all the BS that went around ChatGPT5 and then whatever they came out to? 😜

#

How many of you here are expecting Gemini three to be a huge leap in ai development?

patent aspen
hoary locust
#

Now I hear ya you’re 100% right.

#

I think we hit a wall though

ornate ether
#

hi

hoary locust
#

I think we’re gonna get minor improvements here and there, but I’m not expecting anything really drastic

#

I think the fact that open ai struggled with ChatGPT5 is a good indicator, where the industries at overall in terms of what to expect

#

Though Google does have more money to burn and more resources, so who knows

languid crescent
#

Also, love the new login system ❤️ been waiting for it 🔥

echo aurora
languid crescent
#

@echo aurora I also have a suggestion: Since we now can login using our google accounts, can lmarena implement a chat-storage system via google drive?

It syncs to the google drive with the text chat as txt?

hardy lion
#

interesting idea, sounds like a cool thing to allow users to export all their data and they can do analysis on it and stuff

languid crescent
topaz flicker
#

hello

hoary locust
#

Lmarena should stay open

#

It’s reputation credibility and trustworthy benchmark for users. Worldwide is very critical and important.

#

It should stay open source and be funded by the public or other generous donors.

potent glacier
#

As per their statement: "LMArena will stay open and accessible to everyone. To do that sustainably, we’re focused on creating long-term value through services that benefit the entire AI ecosystem and serve the larger community."
"At our core, LMArena will always provide:

An open, accessible platform for the community to participate in evaluating and comparing models through real-world prompts."

hoary locust
#

Oh, I know I was just responding to the premium features

#

That this would really conflict of interest to some degree

quartz light
#

how did you get exactly 1220

#

and ur balance is 1220

#

🤨

#

scam

stray sequoia
#

hello

golden ocean
#

only if ure doing like physical labor job

#

than its useless for ur life

#

but for me changed my life

#

infinitely happy that claude exists
(ik thats not the point of that picture but i just wanted to say)

crisp topaz
#

hello

high ginkgo
high ginkgo
muted yarrow
#

Hello

hoary locust
violet pendant
#

Hey everyone!

simple ivy
#

Hi Everyone. I have been trying to create Earth Zoom out but Higgsfield does not allow free generations even for new accounts. I tried to create video here too but it didnt work. Does anyone have suggestion of how to create drone effect/ earth zoom from simgle image?

simple ivy
#

yes

rotund shore
#

when my video will be generated a new message send by the bot? or my messaged will be edited?

fossil verge
#

hey

golden ocean
hoary locust
#

😂😂😂😂😂

nimble lagoon
#

animate this image so the camera moves from left to right

#

animate this image so the camera moves from left to right 10 sec

whole sundial
gusty musk
#

hi

hoary locust
#

ChatGPT is so messed up

latent crest
#

Discord is really cool, I don’t know why I discovered it only now

hollow imp
crystal oak
#

hello

latent crest
#

Ahahah you’re right , deleted user, but I only have this “server” . How can I find others?

hollow imp
latent crest
#

Yeah I never get invited anywhere so I guess I’ll stay here

hollow imp
wintry holly
#

hi

thin creek
#

Why did the login button just vanish? It was working fine like five minutes ago

whole wagon
#

How is grok code fast 1 cooking so hard

latent crest
hollow imp
hollow imp
white plover
#

| Elegant white anthropomorphic female cat with long silver hair and teary eyes, gently resting her paw on her belly, wearing a soft red sleeveless home dress. Facing her, a muscular white male cat with sharp blue eyes, shirtless with defined abs, wearing black shorts, pointing in anger. Cinematic Pixar-style living room with warm dim lighting, soft shadows, and emotional tension.

latent crest
lilac nimbus
hoary locust
mint cobalt
#

how to fix ts

#

chat gpt chat doesn't work I had to use google gemini

leaden sun
# hoary locust

this curve reminds me so much of the typical expat life...

whole wagon
#

Nonsense

#

There is no path to useful AGI

#

LLMs are plateauing

#

They are not promising. They are for verifiable domains only

#

No it is not. There are a million ways to write something to do a certain task

#

And the majority are an unmaintainable mess

#

HRM is borderline a scam to trick ppl who don't read the paper

#

This is insufficient for good code. Do you code?

#

No. This will produce trash code. Code needs to be designed well

#

So it is easy to maintain and upgrade

#

This is basically AI slop to produce something which just runs

#

It is very annoying to have to redo the AI work

hollow imp
whole wagon
#

That someone else submitted because it runs

hollow imp
#

@whole wagon best coding ai to help me with my termux. Gpt 5, grok fast code 1, opus 4.1 thinking.etc.etc

whole wagon
#

if you dont care about the cost then opus 4.1 thinking

hollow imp
#

Gpt 5 code worked it didn't

#

It gave fancy long code blocks and even after giving it logs and chatting for a long time it couldn't successfully do shi t

feral zealot
#

bruh what is this update

#

cant use lmarena in incognito anymore

hollow imp
#

I'm currently using it in incognito

feral zealot
hollow imp
#

No wait I'm using canary lmarena

latent crest
feral zealot
#

it's working now nvm

icy rock
#

Its been 20 mins my video is still not generated

solar hollow
#

4300 people online, this server really blew up recently

hoary locust
#

Is there even one honest ai company out there ?

fleet lintel
#

any new interesting model on LMArena?

hoary locust
#

Or do they all train there models to lie to users? To redirect to use deceptive manipulative tactics to make sure the models hedges so hard that it changes the entire meaning of even your own output? Or do we have to sit here and listen to the models lecture to us about safety and ethics?

#

Ai won’t take your job but it will be in charge of you at your job (;

merry wren
#

can't connect on my account on lmarena, anyone having the same problem? It said "connection failed"

shrewd thunder
#

Hi, how can i fix this?

thorn berry
#

Hello y'all !
IA passionate et always wanting to compare which is the best especially for images and videos !

hollow imp
hollow imp
#

Simple

hoary locust
hollow imp
hoary locust
#

To many different styles

grizzled isle
#

Which model is the best to generate names for something? I have tried gpt5, Gemini 2.5pro, kimi, deepseek, claude... None of them came up with even remotely good ones (the best of those was arguably deepseek)

grizzled isle
#

Oh yea haven't tried it, let's give it a shot

hoary locust
#

Consistency is so difficult with video and images

inland brook
timber iris
# timber iris
poll_question_text

What is The Best text model right now

victor_answer_votes

9

total_votes

15

victor_answer_id

1

victor_answer_text

GPT 5 HIGH

violet tendon
#

Hello

exotic nebula
shrewd thunder
exotic nebula
viral notch
#

guys what just happened to the arena? the models and my chat history are gone?

#

is this a repeat of the last time where peoples chat histories disappeared?

gusty turret
#

is there an outage?

warped falcon
viral notch
#

time to save data from your chats just in case

leaden cove
#

lmarena

#

durd

#

died

warped falcon
#

durd

leaden cove
#

6-7

#

lmarena when fix bruh

sinful chasm
#

hi

leaden cove
#

and they didnt posted an single post about it in announce 😭

languid crescent
#

It's down

#

I guess they're cooking something

#

I can feel it

viral dock
#

😉

leaden cove
#

bruh

languid crescent
#

SOMETHING IS NEW

leaden cove
#

do it fast ma boi

languid crescent
#

New UI im guessing 😉

languid crescent
#

oh fu- the login right

#

😭

sweet knot
#

No warning, no information provided on the Arena' s outage.

Bad attitude, guys

sweet knot
#

Why? Are they saints?

viral notch
languid crescent
sweet knot
#

Lmarena, we're talking about

languid crescent
sweet knot
#

I am but they want us to be dependent on them

languid crescent
#

Then wait patiently???

#

Aint no harm in that

wise peak
#

is 4o still the best when it comes to immersive RP?

kindred tundra
#

Are servers die?

languid crescent
#

not die, but down

echo aurora
#

They're down?

languid crescent
#

Yes

unkempt ridge
#

hi

kindred tundra
wise peak
#

Got it. Thanks Mimi!

unkempt ridge
#

why is it not working?

echo aurora
#

Okay looking into.

unkempt ridge
#

Mine doesn't work bro help

languid crescent
#

Just wait for them to fix it

#

I think its cuz of the server

kindred tundra
#

Mb they updating or bug

languid crescent
#

Might be updating or just server issues

torn bison
lavish sigil
#

Is lmarena down?

languid crescent
#

Yes

#

pineapple is looking into the problem

#

we jus need to wait

heady ember
#

Stop complaining guys, you're using paid models for free we don't have the right to complain

dawn ingot
#

Guys, it takes hours for the chat to load a response. I've already closed the page, refreshed it, and it didn't work

#

so i missed the chat?

#

🤨

lavish sigil
#

Does there anyone fix it?

languid crescent
#

@dawn ingot , server down, how did you even get that far lol

#

mine just displays an error and failed to accept terms of use

heady ember
dawn ingot
#

oh lol

languid crescent
dawn ingot
#

what a shame

heady ember
#

I was being sarcastic

languid crescent
heady ember
#

Guess i need to overclarify everything

queen shadow
#

Am I the only one that just got a site error?

torn bison
#

no

heady ember
#

No we've been talking about it for a while now

queen shadow
#

I just got it

heady ember
#

If you just read the chat before typing

finite flicker
#

failed to agree privacy police

#

how to fix

heady ember
#

You can't server is down

#

I got that same error before it was unable to load a site at all

dusky aurora
#

an outage is always fun

heady ember
#

Probably the Google integration messed something up

pure comet
#

Am I the only one that just got a site error?

echo aurora
#

Site Outage - Hey everyone, there looks to be an outage with the site, our team is aware and working on a fix ASAP.

deft quarry
#

Guys do you know that if you generate pictures and their prompts everyone can saw us

heady ember
#

It's working now i guess?

pure comet
heady ember
dense sphinx
#

Why I can't enter lm arena?

polar terrace
#

GUYS LMARENA IS DOWN😢

pure comet
dusky aurora
#

oh, a Russian speaker!

pure comet
#

FSB protect us 😎 🤙

deft quarry
dense sphinx
#

It's not working

heady ember
echo aurora
#

Site Outage - Hey everyone, there looks to be an outage with the site, our team is aware and working on a fix ASAP.

pure comet
#

"may be shared" != "will be shared'

heady ember
#

That's why it's free

heady ember
#

Companies give their models to lmarena since lmarena has huge userbase and we vote models and they get ranked

polar terrace
#

Guys

heady ember
#

They test out different seeds and tuning

#

For same model etc...

leaden cove
polar terrace
#

Whoch is better course vs Ai trainer

pure comet
#

what is it

novel jacinth
#

why i can't use the ai

polar terrace
#

Ai trainer vs udemy courses

heady ember
#

On my samsung internet site works on my firefox it doesn't??

echo aurora
pure comet
dusky aurora
#

LMArena down means time for some human conversation

pure comet
#

no humans

shy raven
#

is the site down?

pure comet
#

i am bot

lofty harbor
#

down ?

#

site down guys

exotic tartan
#

the site is down, yes

pure comet
#

GUYS SITE DOWN

unkempt ridge
#

i can't generate image or video to it even i used command

#

huhu

lofty harbor
#

cant connect guys

terse shuttle
#

if it was an update i hope it will be UI upgrade

unkempt ridge
#

help

polar terrace
exotic tartan
#

@echo aurora please note

shy raven
#

oh, i thought it was only me

lofty harbor
#

help help help

pure comet
novel jacinth
polar terrace
lofty harbor
#

thankyou

shy raven
echo aurora
#

Site Outage - Hey everyone, there looks to be an outage with the site, our team is aware and working on a fix ASAP.

frigid sky
#

Cannot use?

novel jacinth
shrewd thunder
shy raven
#

i got access for a second and it went away again

dusky aurora
#

everyone welcome to my cozy forum

forest prism
drifting crow
#

The ai escaped and took down the site

forest prism
#

Good riddance anyway

willow grail
#

i think we got a bug with when you make account and login u dont see ur previous chats

pure comet
willow grail
#

and the website isnt working right now at all

pure comet
#

even in venezuela

echo aurora
forest prism
#

Mr international

shut quail
#

Hey there

stiff bramble
#

No. It's down. Hi everyone.

novel jacinth
polar terrace
drifting crow
#

We might have to shutdown the internet this is serious

pure comet
#

bile

stiff bramble
drifting crow
polar terrace
#

Yes it is dangerous

novel jacinth
shy raven
#

no, bcz it's down

polar terrace
pure comet
#

nice dude

novel jacinth
shut quail
#

Its normal that the bot say LMArena has not responded right in time?

glass zealot
#

why is lmarena down

pure comet
glass zealot
#

i al so worried

wraith tinsel
#

Gemini also down atm

glass zealot
#

i want my nano banana again

echo aurora
#

Site Outage - Hey everyone, there looks to be an outage with the site, our team is aware and working on a fix ASAP.

pure comet
#

show ip

pure comet
#

2028

dusky aurora
whole topaz
#

who deleted my image

pure comet
#

me

#

sorry

whole topaz
odd ivy
#

why i cant generate some video

pure comet
#

IT IS ENGLISH

odd ivy
#

english only

pure comet
#

it is english

warped falcon
#

absolutely english

dusky aurora
#

hey,you should have put a dollar sign. 25 thousands always looks good with a dollar sign

pure comet
#

💲

#

why it is black

#

i dont like black

ocean vortex
#

😇

willow grail
dense sphinx
#

It's really outage?

pure comet
pure comet
dusky aurora
#

devs, hurry. the withdrawal already makes users crazy, they start speaking in tongues

golden isle
#

is server down now , mine is showing "failed to accept terms of use"

willow grail
#

I AM RAGING

#

😄

whole topaz
#

@echo aurora bad gateaway is there a problem in the site bad gateaway ?

polar terrace
#

Just to makes us connect here for a while

wind plank
#

is the website down?

echo aurora
#

Site Outage - Hey everyone, there looks to be an outage with the site, our team is aware and working on a fix ASAP.

willow grail
#

slitherin wins

#

all hail slytherin

wraith tinsel
#

Wdym

pure comet