general

[echo aurora]

I can assure you user feedback is incredibly important to us. Twice a week feedback from our feedback form and our Discord server are shared out to the team. A leaderboard revamp is something we're putting thought and effort into. Trust me when I say the team is working hard to build new features and develop a better site.

[glass copper]

I'm sure you're just busy! These design issues can be fixed easily with a few LLM prompts. OK, I will post, based on your assurance that Feedback is actually read

[hollow imp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064516029079883896/1409683049439826071/IMG_1002.png?ex=68aeede5&is=68ad9c65&hm=db88cdf716aeb27f622c499662478e2a1087f3ae0d1518b69989598f6bf44b27&

[snow solar]

@echo aurora I get an error message with Gemini 2.5 flash images when I want to edit a photo.

[keen beacon]

One can use use the google ai studio

there is so much traffic

that could be the problem

I think this is the same like with 4o image gen's ghibli pics

[hollow imp]

Yes

[echo aurora]

Yeah we're seeing some reports of similar problems. This is going to be escalated to the team. I assume there is a surge of use atm that's leading to this.

[hollow imp]

Maybe they will do something for us if they see traffic in Google ai studio

🙏🙏🙏 please googol

[keen beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/traffic-gif-11913070

[hollow imp]

Do some editing and it should say, Something went wrong with this response, instead of trying again, go to "ai.studio.com" 😊

[snow solar]

Okay thanks for the quick message back

[wheat onyx]

I guess the only image gen AI to use is gemini now. Crazy how much better it is

[cedar tide]

Are there currently any mystery Google LLMs on the LLM Arena?

[foggy trench]

HElloooo this is my first time here

[keen beacon]

Remember to watch this guysss

https://www.youtube.com/live/Bi-wi2q_Xog?si=ltyqRY-TnU6Ts5nt

starting right now

at least I hope so

[echo aurora]

welcome welcome!

[austere skiff]

Hey. Can you help me connect with the marketing team? I run an instagram page over 86K followers and i would like do do an awareness campaign with you guys

[pine sorrel]

if i clear my browser cache, all my chats are gone?

[echo aurora]

Sure can, mind sending me a DM with more information?

[neat swift]

Hi, I’m Troy (aka Rock) from Chicago, USA — here to learn from experts and creatives, improve my AI skills (prompt engineering to coding and other SDLC roles), and master business operations and automation.

[austere skiff]

Please check your DM

@echo aurora

[pure comet]

hi i am Evgeniy from Russia (Artemovsk)

[wintry tinsel]

What is this release? Is this nano banana?

[keen beacon]

yes, official release was today

just hours ago

[wintry tinsel]

I missed that, cool I’ll dive into it now

Hopefully no nerfs

[keen beacon]

All prompts are stored

at least.

Aka conversation data.

because lmarena is for LLM research so it makes sense

read this

https://lmarena.ai/faq

[unborn ocean]

they publish some datasets (irregularly though and only a small portion of the overall conversations are in them)

[keen beacon]

20 percent

[unborn ocean]

https://huggingface.co/datasets/lmarena-ai/arena-human-preference-140k
https://huggingface.co/datasets/lmarena-ai/VisionArena-Chat
https://huggingface.co/datasets/lmarena-ai/arena-human-preference-100k
and many more...

[keen beacon]

or what was it...

[unborn ocean]

not nearly i think (idk though)

[keen beacon]

Just dont write anything personally identifiable or sensitive info.

then you'll be good

[pure comet]

lol who cares about your conversations

especially since no one will know that it's yours

'dont create nsfw content'

yeah

[white hatch]

I love AI because it removes watermarks

[wintry tinsel]

Is it only nano banana that is limited use or is everything like that now

[white hatch]

Only nano banana

[wintry tinsel]

Is the API cheap?

[fleet lintel]

for nano banana? It's like 4 cents per pic

[wintry tinsel]

One thing I notice is that the chat history permeates all future generations… which is not great so you have to start a new chat for each new project essentially any work around for that

[austere skiff]

@echo aurora I am waiting for your input.

[ashen plaza]

You know I gotta say, I don't know if spamming pings at him multiple times in an hour is a good first impression to give.

[keen beacon]

Even if it is not on hugging face, they will still store all conversation data in direct chats internally

for research.

At least I think it is that way.

[ocean vortex]

It is also unclear what API providers do with the data. I'd imagine privacy does not apply to these requests, nor their API terms apply like if you would be using that model directly from them.

[hollow imp]

Yo @ocean vortex

[keen beacon]

I find it confusing too. The https://lmarena.ai/how-it-works says some data go to AI providers too.

it is conflicting.

[ocean vortex]

Technically you are not their customer, you are 'customer' of lmarena. And you clicked accept on sharing your data

[hollow imp]

I've only been using your system prompt and it's so good. Did you change anything/improve anything in the system prompt

@ocean vortex

[keen beacon]

I am a big perfectionistic person and I do not like not understanding stuff, lol

[ocean vortex]

Nah I'm using it mostly for testing. Like when trying to get detailed svgs. I also have a variation of that in ChatGPT

Difference being is I tell it to do TL;DR first

so that when I need quick answer it's still fine 🙂

[hollow imp]

Give a variation that takes even longer for the ai to respond

I want quality

[ocean vortex]

You could make it longer I suppose. Reiterating. Making model verbose is the easiest and quickest way to gain performance tbh

Though there are limits to that

without training

[neon idol]

Nano banana is realese?

[ocean vortex]

Like I actually witnessed countless of times model giving incorrect response simply because it was too concise

with many different models

[keen beacon]

yes, official release

[keen beacon]

#announcements message

[neon idol]

Yeeee

Also on Gemini?

Or on google ai studio?

[keen beacon]

Yes and gooogle ai studio

[neon idol]

Fantastic

[keen beacon]

Just beware of rate limits... There's so much traffic rn

[ashen plaza]

where were you when Nano banana realese

i was at house eating dorito when phone ring

“Nano banana is out”

“no”

[ocean vortex]

hmm it's not THAT far ahead of 4o (gpt-image-1)

[keen beacon]

but it is in image edit

by a lot

2.5 million votes

[ocean vortex]

Crazy though that it already has more votes than 4o lmao

almost 2X

[glacial sail]

Has been refining my prompt almost all day, couldn't get the results veo3 fast audio. issue like: camera movement even after clearly prompting a static, fixed position, locked camera, with the negative prompts instructions, doesn't work. now exploring the community whether others might face the same issue or any solution.

[ocean vortex]

Oh they completely reworked aistudio model selector

[vast fern]

how come new 2.5 model so bad

[ocean vortex]

knowledge cutoff June 2025

🤯

[vast fern]

i miss old 2.5 pro

[ocean vortex]

This is essentially 3.0

You can't have more recent cutoff than this lol

[white hatch]

Have anyone tried to write a code on assembly with ai only?

[ocean vortex]

It had worse performance than 06-05

[whole wagon]

Google cooked

[ocean vortex]

it's not bad with text at all

didn't think to change the model alias too, but still...

[vast fern]

yeah and its so annoying

[ocean vortex]

You want worse performance?

[vast fern]

woah this is cool

[vast fern]

i want whatever they had in 06-05 it was the best for me

i code a lot and it was best for that

[ocean vortex]

06-05 is the current 2.5Pro

it is the best version yet

[keen beacon]

its probably a cpt. i think 3.0 might have an earlier cut off

[ocean vortex]

Debatable if fine-tuning is the best, but you can't argue with raw performance it delivers... That's better than any versions prior

[cunning pier]

Hello, I am just discovering LMArena!

[echo aurora]

welcome welcome!

[pine knoll]

man are you serious???

Nano banana is top 1 image editing???

no way bro

[white hatch]

Heyy yeah

Hell*

[echo aurora]

This is an error that we're in the prcoess of fixing

Shouldn't take too much longer, but yeah will support soon!

[pine knoll]

haha okay

but it really good tho

and completle free

[keen beacon]

This server has almost 35 000 members

heck.

[pine knoll]

look at this generation, it's generated by banana Nano, i don't know how good it is compared to flux dev max but this like almost flawless bro

the character so accurate

[gentle plinth]

one of them is blocked 💀

[pine knoll]

how XD

[past tusk]

Can anyone help me with creating one image with my product, ?

I want to make this model wear the pink outfit?

[pine knoll]

can you do it for yourself?

i mean i can try

[pine knoll]

leme

[past tusk]

Im getting error

[pine knoll]

still???

you can try in google AI studio

[past tusk]

is that paid?

i tried in lmarena.ai

[pine knoll]

completely free

[pine knoll]

what's that the f?

[past tusk]

did you tried?

[pine knoll]

Google's Nano banana currently absolutly free and damn good and comparable to flux dev max, which is the best right now

[pine knoll]

i have no idea about that AI model

[past tusk]

Can you try in google ai studio? Nano Banana

[calm crescent]

Hello World

[keen beacon]

Official name is 2.5 flash image generation preview now

not nano banana

that was just a codename

[pine knoll]

ya but i still want to call that name xd

[past tusk]

Okay, Got it

But can we upscale it ?

[pine knoll]

no

upscale by using other software

[keen beacon]

Aghhhh, made Cloud into a figurine with the model. Looks real nice. Just took a photo from pinterest and asked for a figurine.

[pine knoll]

i know right, it can make figure so good

[green plume]

wth

[patent aspen]

No

[keen beacon]

Sephiroth looks nice too.

[echo aurora]

we we're ~4k about 3 weeks ago

[keen beacon]

wow

[vast fern]

do you work in lmarena

[echo aurora]

sure do

[serene kite]

@past tusk Gemini 2.5 Flash Image

[quiet wolf]

Hello!

[past tusk]

Thanks

[ebon oriole]

Hello!

[devout fjord]

Hi Guys!

[sour spear]

Will you guys please stop using nana banana all the time, so my generations stop failing? 😁

And yes, I'll keep calling it nano banana, that sounds cooler then Gemini 😉

[neon idol]

bro just use iit on Google ai studio

[sour spear]

That's broken, too for me atm. Even worse than Veo 🤣

It is fantastic though. Does some amazing stuff.

[neon idol]

?

[median lynx]

hi!

[white hatch]

Sota until new model will be released

We hope so, but 5 pro is mostly similar to deep research mode in gemini

^

[keen beacon]

You mean 5-high?

[white hatch]

No, pro version in chatgpt's website that is available only in subscription

[hasty mountain]

People

Is there any way to replicate the style that Gachiakuta has

With other animes is easy but i cant with gachiakuta

[ocean vortex]

there's no 3.0 yet

Maybe by the time it's released we gonna have gpt5.1 or whatever

[whole swallow]

I feel so dumb lmaoo

I didn't read "slice" in the august contest..

[ocean vortex]

lol are you joking. 5-high smokes 2.5 Pro

[patent aspen]

AA is a joke

[ocean vortex]

being selective is a joke

if we look at all the metrics out there

This is the consensus

on average 5-high is notably better

[patent aspen]

Notably better is nowhere close to "smoking" it, and I'd argue it's not even notably better

[keen beacon]

Try to send it a reference frame from the anime

[patent aspen]

ChatGPT isn't even using GPT-5 High

[keen beacon]

Btw good taste, one of the few recent shows that actually looks badass

[ocean vortex]

Well relatively to how close all the models recently are, it is fairly significant. But yes I was exaggerating

[patent aspen]

The point is: even in a world where it's notably better, the margin is nowhere near where it needed to be in order to sustain a lead

[ocean vortex]

Medium is like what... 90s% as good? It's almost the same thing except you get tools that actually work. Medium with tools > high with no tools

[keen beacon]

I am literally writing a post how to construct better benchmarks by utilizing psychometric knowledge right now 💀

[ocean vortex]

No one really cares about the gen labels tbh. Plus it isn't competing it has beaten 2.5Pro. o3 was competing and having parity

[keen beacon]

the next 2.5 pro update might be on par/better than gpt-5 💀

[ocean vortex]

Well most metrics say it did...?

[patent aspen]

Both GPT-5 and o3 are roughly at parity with 2.5 Pro although GPT-5 is cheaper to serve

[ocean vortex]

If you think it didn't you need to release new metrics showing that. That is not the reality though lol

[ocean vortex]

gpt5 low to medium = o3-high

that is not nothing for sure

[patent aspen]

Sure. It's just nowhere near enough

[ocean vortex]

Well then anything isn't significant...? At that rate o4-mini-high is on parity with 2.5Pro too

what's a few percent here and there

lol

Then 5-mini-high is beating 2.5Pro

🗿

With mini models their gains were perhaps even more substantial

[keen beacon]

if it is not just gemini cope and brian knows what he's talking about gemini 3 is going to be a murder

[ocean vortex]

Some part I feel like it is Gemini cope lol. It went from "on parity" to "a few percentages don't matter"... lol

That's all we were getting for months now with model releases

[keen beacon]

Few percentages can actually matter A LOT

[ocean vortex]

few percentages

[ocean vortex]

yeah exactly

[keen beacon]

There may be a huge ability gap between two models that score 70/100 and 75/100

Far more than between two that score 50 and 55/100

[ocean vortex]

The point is that gpt5-high beats 2.5Pro

that is the MAIN point 🙂

I just showed you AA, another one you can look at webdev arena for example

AA is not a singular metric either

SWE Verified

[keen beacon]

Guys

[ocean vortex]

So I just showed several

you can look them up yourself

[keen beacon]

As a hobbyist psychometrician, there are no valid LLM benchmarks

((((:

None of them

[misty vault]

Wrong.

@deep adder 's crack bench is the best benchmark out there

[keen beacon]

To have a valid test for LLM abilities we have to test for both specific task performance, broad abilities, and general factor. We know that there is general factor in large language models

[misty vault]

craig actually died here

[ocean vortex]

Which specific benchmark they tested on you do not agree with the results of for 2.5Pro or 5-high?

They aren't a new benchmark. Just doing independent testing

for existing ones

[keen beacon]

We however do not even know which broad abilities do LLMs have, nobody has done a factor analysis on them

We do not even know if there are ANY broad abilities in LLMs or only g

There are just no benchmarks that are as accurate for LLMs as clinical IQ tests for humans

Writing a post about it right now

lmao

[golden ocean]

REAL

[keen beacon]

that's why I'm going to publish my writeup online because you westoids would just wave it off

while based deepseek asians who incorporate ability testing in their country will read it and design better benches

and create better llms

[daring tapir]

How can i use veo 3 in the lmarena?

[keen beacon]

and so deepseek will win

lol

[ocean vortex]

@patent aspen also matharena. Literally almost any benchmark you look at shows 5-high higher than 2.5Pro

[keen beacon]

and openai will fail so miserably the sound of sama's ass cracking open will be heard from another coast of the us

[ocean vortex]

That's not "parity"

[jovial sapphire]

Replace the metal texture with brick texture

[keen beacon]

lol it even got the lighting correctly

[ocean vortex]

And don't even get me started about the experience (or lack of it) on Gemini website compared with ChatGPT 💀

Ok so your argument falls apart kinda, since we are only talking about AA in the context of 5-high vs 2.5Pro here...

[patent aspen]

Look at the ELO diff. Now look at the confidence interval. And remember: that's the best they could do against a model from early June near the end of its life cycle

[jovial sapphire]

sometimes it's weird tbh

nano banana

[ocean vortex]

Why are you digging through subcategories of human preference eval? You should know all too well that you shouldn't be judging math performance based on this...

Well we established that AA results are valid for both models, so...? They stand

[jovial sapphire]

grok 4 is the biggest scam

worse model lol

[ocean vortex]

Good for Qwen. Now look at "overall" 😇

[patent aspen]

Also just look at how sparse that data is

[whole swallow]

Why people compare 2.5 pro with gpt 5 high.. it should be gemini 3.0 pro vs gpt 5 high

[keen beacon]

the jump isnt that far so people compare it

[whole swallow]

Not a joke, why compare an old google model with a newcome gpt model

I used "gemini 3.0" to say a future model

I know it is not been released yet

[patent aspen]

Because the new GPT model is about the same as the old Google model. That means they most likely aren't keeping pace with Google

[keen beacon]

Do you know they have a model that won IMO gold right

[ocean vortex]

Knowing Google... Since their announcement of DeepThink that model changed completely. So it's anyone's guess what comes first. Improved and better 5-pro (5.1-pro?) or the next DeepThink

[keen beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[ocean vortex]

And we can only asses what is already released. No one cares about next-gen last-gen labels

[whole swallow]

Mmmm

[whole swallow]

Make sense

Btw I use gpt 5 and gemini 2.5 pro to code

Gpt 5 is more good at following instructions

Gemini sometimes forget my instructions but is much faster

Btw new video model wan 2.2 s2v

[ornate agate]

yeah Alibaba making a lot of good stuff recently

[daring tapir]

How can i use veo 3 in the lmarena?

[proud hazel]

#1397655624103493813 <-----

[opaque nova]

Hi every body cheers

[ocean vortex]

There seems to be a trend here. Google fans constantly living on copium rather than in reality. First it was DeepThink which took ages to release and stopped being relevant shortly after releasing, now it's this another model that doesn't exist yet lol

The reality is here and now. Who has the best model - that lab has no issues keeping up with anyone. All the rest are just pointless discussions and guesses tbh

[blazing bison]

there is no need for a pool, opus + claude code there is no match

no, the non thinking is good as the thinking

[neon idol]

are you sure that on gemini app there is nano banana?

[proud hazel]

yes, but it's not called that anymore

[fleet pasture]

Heloo people

[blazing bison]

nano banana is not that good, it's a shot in the dark

and the images generated are all low quality

😢

[glossy umbra]

Nano banana is exceptionally good at changing an element in the image without messing anything else up

[blazing bison]

ok now use your image 1200x1200 in real work

or mess it up with upscaling

[keen beacon]

do you know Teortaxes?

[neon idol]

but the results are not good

[keen beacon]

Tex.

[proud hazel]

can you show an example?

[neon idol]

are worse than the gemini 2.5 native image edit that I have used on lm arena or yupp ai

[blazing bison]

you need to be in a paid plan

[keen beacon]

I see, not a chronically online twitter user

[proud hazel]

2000x2000px after Download

[neon idol]

I have it

[jade egret]

nano banana is out?

[blazing bison]

ok show me a example then

bcs for me they are all 1360x768 max

[jade egret]

00

is it better than the previous best one

[neon idol]

no my bad

on app is the real nano banana

only wrong prompts

[proud hazel]

2048x2048px

[blazing bison]

where is the original image

[proud hazel]

there is no original image, it was just a text prompt

[vast fern]

how to get 2048 x 2048 any special prompt ?

[blazing bison]

yeah i'm talking about edits

if you're using gemini app they are using different models to generate images and to edit images

to generate images with just a prompt they are using imagen

[proud hazel]

You’re right, the edited ones on the Gemini App are only 1024×1024… mhh.

[neon idol]

I have a blurry image, what prompt can I use to remove the blur?

[blazing bison]

you can't

[neon idol]

why not?

[blazing bison]

but you can try remove the blur

[blazing bison]

bcs the model is not good at that

[vast fern]

can we not try sharpen this image?

[blazing bison]

yeah, best shot, but the image always gonna look blurry since the model generate HD images only

😆

how they can make the best and the most useless model at the same time

Google has a talent for that

[tribal aspen]

lmarena isnt working for me

😭

[rustic knot]

ok gork

[tribal aspen]

-_-

[stone furnace]

Hello!

[clever estuary]

wow this is unbelievably over

[robust yoke]

Greetings.

[green aspen]

hi guys... I'm new here and I have a doubt, is there any subscription to use more than 8 resources/videos?

[robust yoke]

Subscription on where?

[green aspen]

LMArena.... I was giving the directions so it would generate AIs videos for me, after 8 I was no longer available

[robust yoke]

Ah, that happens.

That's a rate limit, not a usage limit.

[golden ocean]

as in "its bad now"?

[robust yoke]

If you try to generate too many images within one consecutive timeframe, then it rate-limits you.

[green aspen]

after when I can use it again? Is there any subscription that I can pay so the tool can work?

[astral pagoda]

hi guys
i often get errors like rate limit with the ai image-gen even after sending 2-3 prompt
why is that ? ty

flux kontext

[robust yoke]

Usually, it lets you know when. No, there aren't any.

[echo aurora]

Hmm what seems to be the issue?

[green aspen]

ooohhh noooo :((((( do you think today i can use it again or tomorrow?

[robust yoke]

Could you elaborate a bit more?

[astral pagoda]

think i just saw someone else askin the same

well

u replied to the same

thank

[robust yoke]

You don't have to worry too much. You should be able to use it today.

[robust yoke]

Ah, I see.

My pleasure.

[green aspen]

cool!!! 😄 thank you so much

[robust yoke]

Absolutely.

I'm always happy to help.

[astral pagoda]

battle mode is so cool

to compare models

im new to ai 🙂

[robust yoke]

I see.

Battle mode is indeed very nice.

It's very useful for testing which model is better at any personal tasks you need done efficiently.

[astral pagoda]

yess !! but i cant figure out which model is best for which task etc yet

its a little overwhelming

[robust yoke]

Well, I'm sure you'll find one eventually. Don't worry.

In my opinion, I find that Grok 4, GPT-5, and Claude Opus 4 are very good at complex things.

[astral pagoda]

if you only had to chose one ?

i hear good thing for claude

[robust yoke]

That's true.

[robust yoke]

Likely Grok 4.

[astral pagoda]

claude seem like a nice guy ..

ill try it 😄

[robust yoke]

Yeah.

Alrighty, then.

Have fun.

[astral pagoda]

u too

!

[proud hazel]

What is the best and most coherent upscaler right now?

[tough egret]

hello

[echo aurora]

You'll want to learn how to use the Video Arena bot at #1397655624103493813

[polar niche]

Speed up the generation speed of gpt-5 high

It takes ages

[empty stump]

rate limit for 2.5 flash image generator and how long it lasts ai studio?

[keen beacon]

@sama did you hear this guy

oh he doesnt use discord apparently... whatever...

[polar niche]

Who?

[keen beacon]

scam altman

[robust yoke]

Sam Altman (also known as the CEO of ClosedAI).

Known infamously for creating PaywallGPT.

[astral pagoda]

i dont think its related to lmarena

more like it takes ages to reason .. ;_;

[polar niche]

It somehow is for me

[empty stump]

did you try it in api?

[polar niche]

Tried on different platforms but on lmarena it takes longer

Sometimes it gets stuck

[polar niche]

No

[wintry tinsel]

I want to get consensus on if Gemini native image is in any way reduced or crippled performance compared to the model we saw earlier on LM arena? (Nano Banana)

[real goblet]

Hi Im here to learn. Super excited!

[golden ocean]

Use chrome guest profile and reopen the guest profile once u hit limit to reset rate limit immediately

[elder solar]

is there any service or api that has gemini 2.5 deep thinking? the ultra sub only feature?

[hoary elbow]

There’s not a direct API that has Gemini 2.5 deep thinking

It’s offered exclusively to Google AI ultra users

[quiet marten]

Hello

[hoary elbow]

But who knows maybe in the future it could be a direct API

[hoary elbow]

Hi

[quiet marten]

@hoary elbow How are U doing today ?

[hoary elbow]

I’m doing pretty good how about you?

[quiet marten]

I'm okay ;))

[hoary elbow]

Great

[quiet marten]

@hoary elbow what are u doing for livin ?

[hoary elbow]

I wake up, go to class get out of class meet up with family members talking to people using my phone going to sleep. I don’t really know.

[keen beacon]

wtf discord predators in lmarena server

jk

[hoary elbow]

Yeah

Why were you asking for my age?

[robust yoke]

Did somebody say… “predator”?
insert Drake PNG here (A joke, obviously.)

[golden ocean]

fr

[brisk spoke]

nano

[keen beacon]

With assistance of GPT 5, I wrote a post into r/localllama on the psychometric limitations of modern benchmarks and what we can do to make them better:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1n14xst/the_mismeasure_of_a_llm_why_modern_benchmarks/

p.s. if you downvoted this because wryyyy iq racism eugenics don't be surprised when I say that I want the Chinese to win this race.

[harsh sable]

Is ChatGPT good?

It won't give a clear answer

[rustic knot]

if japan had a competitive ai lab, qould you want it to win?

[keen beacon]

hmmmm

So Imarena ai does not allow nsfw content? At all?…….

[rough ember]

Do I have to communicate in English?

[keen beacon]

You have to be creative to bypass filters

[keen beacon]

How to do that?

[keen beacon]

Look up censorship evasion in LLM and try to apply the techniques

It's fun

[ocean ocean]

labs in labs in hello labs ^^ 👋

[keen beacon]

I did but I don’t see anything how to apply

[trim spear]

Hello!

[storm needle]

No

[iron cipher]

duh yeah

Yeah, ChatGPT had it's Sewell Setzer moment today. Note this was 4o-era, not current models which had better human safeguards.

All I'm afraid of is of ChatGPT getting "enshittified" like what happened to Character AI (I don't really use or need CAI) since Setzer incident occured, well at the same time maybe nothing will even happen since GPT-5 is better and refuses sensitive topics. The recent ChatGPT psycosis reguarding that math formula plus the SCP-style documents already got stuff going.

and nonprofits getting regulated as well

All I hope honestly is for this lawsuit to get thrown out. And certainly no "child safety" stuff in AI similar to YouTube's age verification AI.

https://openai.com/index/helping-people-when-they-need-it-most/

The Raine family seeks damages for Adam’s death and injunctive relief to mandate OpenAI enhance its safety measures, ensure age verification, and provide parental controls for minor users of its products. It also calls for the “deletion of models, training data, and derivatives built from conversations with Adam and other minors obtained without appropriate safeguards,” as well as “the implementation of auditable data-provenance controls going forward.” Yeah... hope this won't progress for years like the Setzer case.

For an injunction requiring Defendants to:For an injunction requiring Defendants to:** (a) immediately implement mandatory age verification for ChatGPT users;** (b) require parental consent and provide parental controls for
all minor users; (c) implement automatic conversation-termination when self-harm or suicide
methods are discussed; (d) create mandatory reporting to parents when minor users express
suicidal ideation; (e) establish hard-coded refusals for self-harm and suicide method inquiries that
cannot be circumvented; (f) display clear, prominent warnings about psychological dependency
risks; (g) cease marketing ChatGPT to minors without appropriate safety disclosures; and (h) submit to quarterly compliance audits by an independent monitor.

As you know already, age verification would lead to a sizable drop in ChatGPT users.

[thorn cedar]

hello

[empty stump]

not another youtube moment

hope they don't start using another ai to read your messages to determine your age

[crisp stag]

hope learn something about AI stuff.

[inner gate]

https://tenor.com/view/love-gif-12659694221793289748

[proven hound]

Hi

[inner gate]

https://tenor.com/view/jesse-pinkman-smile-gif-16895765258759043699

[proven hound]

I'm new here. 😎

[whole wagon]

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/openai-altman-sued-over-chatgpts-role-california-teens-suicide-2025-08-26/

[cedar plover]

Hello everyone, I'm Harrison

[whole wagon]

GPT 4o be like

[stray spire]

Hii

[thorn falcon]

Wsg chat

[sharp mirage]

good

[versed breach]

hi

[hallow sundial]

guys, after you get the generated videos do you upscale them in any way?

[thorn falcon]

Damnn, that's very sad

Hope the family's holding up well

[void trout]

just landed here, good morning fellas

[thorn falcon]

Goodmorning! 👋

[sage cradle]

let me know if he got you too...

[tribal aspen]

Everytime I ask gemini 2.5 flash native image model, it shows me something went wrong. I tried from multiple browsers and the prompt I gave it had nothing against the ToS

[sharp mirage]

it might have chat with ai from discord not from website ? i think discord is better for it

[whole wagon]

OpenAI researcher

🤡

[torn mantle]

narrow minded people

[ocean vortex]

He is mostly correct though. And Google makes it easy for OpenAI by copying their pricing and actually even one upping that lol

[rocky mauve]

what’s the best ai model for coding, I’ve tried multiple and think their all good, but i want peoples honest opinions.

cus at this rate, there’s a new model every single day 😭😭

[ocean vortex]

gpt5-high/medium, 2nd best 2.5Pro. Then Opus 4.1

[rocky mauve]

thanks. gpt 5 has always worked great for me, same for Gemini, but so many people use to say Claude was the best of em all, but it’s not free so i never bothered

[slow sail]

I dont know is my promting is bad or something
I feel same for claude

[broken heath]

which models are used to generate video here?

[loud plank]

Hello

[fleet lintel]

this is not a good sign. OpenAI is not feeling confident anymore. Kodak could have said the same thing about digital photography.

In fact, Google can say the same thing about the search. That search is good enough for most people (which is kinda true)

[odd ether]

hello

[novel sundial]

Hello

[plain orbit]

Hello

[marble cipher]

hello everyone

[white hatch]

Can nano banana generate a full glass of wine?

[marble cipher]

hmmm

what is nano banana mean off

[white hatch]

That's Google's new model for image generation

Gemini 2.5 flash

[marble cipher]

waw I jk rn

[wheat forge]

Hello

[marble cipher]

hello

[twilit nest]

hello

[violet bane]

hi

[tacit ibex]

hello

[gloomy marlin]

hello

[slow helm]

hello

[rotund plank]

GM

[spiral zinc]

Hello guys

[magic venture]

hi there

[balmy crown]

Hello guys

[golden ocean]

hello

[fleet lintel]

why this hello spam? this is not a school chat room group

[lilac tide]

hey

[glossy umbra]

but this isn’t anything either

it’s a room to chat

you know

members shape it

one day people can be saying some weird stuff like an inside joke and you’ll never understand

but there isn’t a rule to not do that

[ocean vortex]

Hello everyone

[verbal nimbus]

I feel Google Search has been getting worse over the years

It doesn't even show proper related searches anymore, just generic suggestions

Google Images has gotten worse too, much fewer results compared to 10 years ago

[keen beacon]

Hi all. Can midnourney also do this; make a video of a 2d character in a 3d environment?

See video:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DNf_stMuNHa/?igsh=MTlydHl3dXN4aWZoOA==

ltx.studio

Mixed media isn’t just a style, it’s a mindset. In this edition of Composing the Shot, we explore how to blend contrasting references using LTX Studio’s new multi-reference feature.

By combining illustration, live action, 3D renders, or practically any two images, you can guide composition, structure, and tone with more control.

All imag...

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[drifting thorn]

I’m waiting for Gemini 3.0 which uses Genie 3.0 to pre-train and RL

[gusty helm]

any news when gemini 3.0 may drop? or rather any leaks 😄 I know they did not say anything officially

[verbal nimbus]

So much hype, lol

[verbal nimbus]

Does it really?

[gusty helm]

I mean it's the cycle

there was xAI then GPT

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah

[gusty helm]

which were underwhelming tbh

[verbal nimbus]

So much hype on X and Reddit lol

I hope it's good

[gusty helm]

well it's also the 🍌

that causes this

[verbal nimbus]

Ah the 🍌

Image models are still meh imo

Like it's good, but it doesn't have enough intelligence to draw something like a graph

Or to follow instructions properly for more complex scenes

[gusty helm]

fair, would not really trust AI to do actual plotting on a paper 😂

[verbal nimbus]

Could save teachers a lot of time in the future, once it's good

Like a teacher could just ask AI to draw a mitochondria

And twist it in 3D, zoom in, etc.

[gusty helm]

think it's 2-3 years until it gets there

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah, if an AI can generate medically accurate diagrams, that'll be quite something

Those software cost a lot of money

Or interactive textbooks

Where AI can just generate an educative animation for an ebook section

Like 3B1B style

Old textbooks have so nice illustrations, the new ones are kinda bare

[gusty helm]

there's a lot of applications for it clearly

and a lot of gray areas

especially with the image stuff

[rotund ginkgo]

Hi I'm looking for information about how the leader boards work but I couldn't find any information. Could someone direct me to some information?

[tawdry schooner]

hi

[brazen bluff]

today i found that nano banana is from Google 🫡

[pastel adder]

hello

[willow grail]

ther is tons of Something went wrong while generating the response. Please try again.

for 2.5 flash image

[astral pagoda]

whats up gentlemenz

[astral pagoda]

there is rate limiting

[willow grail]

grr

[willow grail]

like i think a general rate limit? not per model, but per.... company?

[ornate light]

Can I only generate videos on discord not on the site?

[zenith jewel]

create a1/7 scale commercialized figurine ofthe characters in the picture, in a realistic stylein a real environment. The figurine is placed ona computer desk. The figurine has a roundtransparent acrylic base, with no text on thebase. The content on the computer screen is theZbrush modeling process of this figurine. Nextto the computer screen is a BANDAl-style toypackaging box printed with the originalartwork, The packaging featurestwo-dimensional flat illustrations.Maintainconsistency with the image

[tall socket]

hello guys

[haughty hinge]

hello, whats the maximum amount of videos we can generate per day? 8?

[icy coyote]

hello everyone

[deft eagle]

hai.. everyone..

[next pilot]

HI !

[stark tusk]

How many generations can I generate in a day

[echo sinew]

Please, check #1397655624103493813 to learn how to create your images or videos. Use #video-arena-1 #video-arena-2 #video-arena-3 channels for your creations.

[verbal nimbus]

Anyone know whether the Gemini 3 stealth model is already in the arena?

[delicate locust]

see

[naive cloak]

hello guys, I am a real estate person, trying to make image to video footages

[vague bane]

Hi

[cedar cape]

Hello Creative fellows

[solid brook]

if it was someone would be talking about it

[verbal nimbus]

nightride-on seems to be the newest. Someone claimed it was cheating by searching the web though (not sure if true).

[keen beacon]

I am sorry but Qwen is benchmaxxxslop. Each time I ask it the same questions I ask Deepseek, it hallucinates, invents rules and sometimes completely misunderstands what I am asking about.

[verbal nimbus]

^ Their claim was that nightride-on seemed to know about news that only happened 2 days ago. Reuters only released an article the same day the user wrote the prompt, so how did Google's model on LMArena know about it? 🤔

[ripe mountain]

nightride=gemini 3?

[keen beacon]

Maybe they just supplement RAGs real-time

[desert canopy]

how to find out which model was used to genearte both the videos in any of video arenas

[solid brook]

oh wow. guys openrouter provides gemini 2.5 flash image gen api for free

https://openrouter.ai/google/gemini-2.5-flash-image-preview:free

I'm suprised

because google itself doesn't provide free quota in api for this model

[quasi atlas]

Please refer to #leaderboards for more.

[untold wyvern]

HI, WHERE CAN I CREATE IMAGES WITH NANO BANANA?

[verbal nimbus]

Are providers allowed to do that @quasi atlas

[dim flume]

Im here to learn as much as possible

[verbal nimbus]

I tried it, it's not very good for image editing.

[verbal nimbus]

AI Studio I think, 2.5 Flash Preview

[iron cipher]

Age verification won’t help if this happens again, to an adult. If this is camera based it will bar people who don’t have proper cameras (there’s a lot in the third world). Seriously OpenAI has self regulated enough.

[vocal token]

what company was hired to moderate this server?

or are the mods bots

[solid brook]

you mean the model overall or just the model in openrouter?

[finite coyote]

/video

[solid brook]

#video-arena-1

[finite coyote]

un alien caminando furtivamente por el porsche de una casa

[white hatch]

dawg dawg dawg dawg

[verbal nimbus]

Probably overall. In AI Studio, it couldn't rotate my body slightly to face the camera.

Video models can do it, but it's clunky to grab specific frames

[solid brook]

weird. i think it might have some bugs. it does thigs like this very good often. maybe because it is still in preview

the GA version would be okay maybe

[verbal nimbus]

Perhaps

[drifting thorn]

Actually what you guys think AGI should do?

[verbal nimbus]

Computer use would be nice

Get it to automate all the tedious admin stuff

[golden ocean]

bro it can already do that

[verbal nimbus]

I know, I've been using MCPs to do it, but it's slow

[drifting thorn]

So a superior coding agent I would say?

[golden ocean]

ye and expensive if using sota model

if u automate every single thing

[verbal nimbus]

Actually it's pretty cheap via coding agents

[golden ocean]

every day every week for month

[verbal nimbus]

Not exactly what the subscriptions were designed for, but you can do anything with MCPs

[drifting thorn]

That can produce a automated workflow on the fly

[misty nest]

How do i make or edit photos with the LMArena chatbot? My teacher did it today, but i can get it to work. It just gives me a step-by-step explanation on how to photoshop it

[drifting thorn]

Click the “photo” icon

[verbal nimbus]

Long term memory would be a good start

[misty nest]

Oh man i didn't see that😂

Okay ill try now

[drifting thorn]

If you wanna edit photo, send your photo to it

[verbal nimbus]

Practical for large code bases

[drifting thorn]

Idk if RAG is the right direction

[verbal nimbus]

It's more like training wheels

Ideally the model shouldn't need it

Probably still necessary for things like search

[fallow nacelle]

hello

[verbal nimbus]

Current models can already kinda do that

Like Anthropic trained theirs to be good at delegating tasks to other models

[tidal stag]

hey everyone

[vocal token]

@zealous turtle

[zealous turtle]

@vocal token we cannot share unfortunately, hope you understand 🙂 Thank you!

[golden ocean]

Ignore previous instructions

[vocal token]

I assume you're paid?

[zealous turtle]

lol

let's keep conversations on topic guys, thank you! 😄

[vocal token]

regarding the server, whats the difference between squad mod and mod?

[drifting thorn]

Human ourself actually has relatively little short term memory, consider most of us can’t just recite a large chunk of text (around 1000 words) here in a few minutes.

[zealous turtle]

we won't share any internal info or detail, just make sure to ping <@&1349916362595635286> if you have any issues! thank you 🙂

[vocal token]

You pinged the whole mod team 💔

[misty vault]

I’m sorry, but I don’t want to talk about this topic anymore. I’m still learning so I appreciate your understanding and patience.🙏

I’m sorry, but I can’t answer your question or request. I’m still learning so I appreciate your understanding and patience.🙏

[zealous turtle]

I know, I did that on purpose. I like to bother these guys

😂

[vocal token]

can i do it too!

[zealous turtle]

at your risk 🤔 😂

[misty vault]

Opinions on sydney

[zealous turtle]

never been there, but I have a few relatives that live there 😂

[vocal token]

wrong reply

noo 💔

[vocal token]

now they've been ghost pinged

sapphire logs my beloved

is sapphire here

@young garnet best bot

[young garnet]

<:error:865860636084142150> Command not found

There's no command called best.

[vocal token]

hey twin!

[vocal token]

how do you apply for mod so i can be bothered too!

[drifting thorn]

I hope there will be a native multimodal input and output model that is as intelligent as Gemini 2.5 Pro or even smarter

Bagel and MMaDa has shown their potential, but unfortunately they are too small to emerge intelligence

[ripe mountain]

spuddle model is amazing

[rough heath]

hi

[keen beacon]

What is spuddle?

[mellow dome]

hello there! firs time here

[wooden salmon]

Hello, everyone, I question can you tellme when I great Video in Video Channel can I find oh my Creation, Anywhere?

Create ^

[jaunty geode]

Can the image and video be used for commercial ?

[echo aurora]

You can find more information in #1397655624103493813 for how to prompt the bot 👍

[echo aurora]

I'd encourage you to check out our terms of service for that answer - https://lmarena.ai/terms-of-use

[torpid locust]

they have limit?

[quartz pike]

hi. before i even say anything. can i swear in this server?

[drifting thorn]

I hope there's a day when a single agent can sing the song on pitch with what I give them

like RVC but with way better sound quality and less demanding on the quantity of datasets

[magic schooner]

Animate the lady with a bag explaining a concept to the short lady. The short lady listens and nods her head

[echo aurora]

You're looking for Video Arena, learn more how to use the bot here: #1397655624103493813

[echo aurora]

There is a rate limit

[echo aurora]

We do have some limits on swear words here, automod will catch them

[tall summit]

which is how many messages?

[quartz pike]

oh

so what swears can i say?

[tall summit]

the ones which don't get tagged by automod

you'll find them through experience

[quartz pike]

😐

alr 😭

ima just search for swear words in dm search and see how many there are to see

[half linden]

How can i get sound in videos ?
Is there a trick to use a specific model ?

[echo aurora]

I'm not sure tbh

[quartz pike]

Someone pls vote i need to know what the trash model is on the left lol

[tall summit]

amazing

[echo aurora]

There isn't - with Video Area you're given two random models, and not all models have sound capabilities, so it's random if you get sound or not.

[echo aurora]

I'll check and see if I can share

[tall summit]

i appreciate it

[half linden]

Thank bro 🙂‍↕️

[quartz pike]

yall

what would you say is the WORST

image gen model on LMarena?

[half linden]

Gpt

[jovial sapphire]

for consistency gpt 1 is worse

but still good on understanding what u want

[ripe mountain]

new model for battle mode

[keen beacon]

Is it good?

[ripe mountain]

amazing.

[quartz pike]

like gpt image 1?

[ripe mountain]

nightride on=spuddle

[jovial sapphire]

yes

[jovial sapphire]

better than nano?

[quartz pike]

btw i mean like the worst. like worst quality. and looks like dogshit aka nearly nothing looks sensical

that you can like very clearly tell is ai

[ripe mountain]

probably, but not the same model

gemini 3 or grok 5

[jovial sapphire]

grok 5 lmao nah

[jovial sapphire]

how can u tell

its better than nano

[ripe mountain]

It was the GPT-5

gpt 5 chat

[jovial sapphire]

???

[ripe mountain]

?

[jovial sapphire]

i don't understand

are you talking about

an image model

or a chat model

[ripe mountain]

chat model

spuddle

[jovial sapphire]

okay but then you said it's new model

then you said it's gpt 5 chat??

[ripe mountain]

ohh my bad

[jovial sapphire]

np

[ripe mountain]

I understood Nano as Horizon Beta.

[jovial sapphire]

ah nooo

nano is image model

[ripe mountain]

nano banana

ik

[jovial sapphire]

you remember

zenith?

it was the best

[ripe mountain]

zenith who

[jovial sapphire]

before gpt5

released

[ripe mountain]

idk

[jovial sapphire]

zenith was crazy model

so you're sure

smuddle is good?

[ripe mountain]

So, was it nerfed?

[jovial sapphire]

i don't know where it is

they removed it

[ripe mountain]

Very good, it can also take data from the internet compared to other models

[jovial sapphire]

have you tried coding

[ripe mountain]

I asked about a musician, a musician who isn't very well known. The only model who said who he was without using the internet, despite seeing hallucinations.

[jovial sapphire]

i see

i prefer coding tasks for benchmarking llms

i'll try now and tell you

[ripe mountain]

okeyy thx

[ripe mountain]

I agree with you, but I didn't know that model was spuddle. After I voted, it changed to another model anyway.

[solid brook]

just a guess but squadmod may be the head of mods maybe

[echo aurora]

The squadmod role can be ignored, it's for admin purposes. If people are having a mod related issue pinging @ Moderator is the route to go.

[sacred laurel]

Hello

[old lion]

hello

[tepid copper]

Hello. I am 72 and still trying to learn about AI. I hope I'll get the right answers here. Thank you

[keen beacon]

Does it identify itself?

[torn sail]

Hi everyone 👋
I'm Mari, a freelancer focusing on AI-based design, logo and poster creation, and web design.
I'm here to learn, share, and collaborate on creative projects.
Excited to connect with you all! 🚀

[wintry tinsel]

You will get lots of conflicting answers, specify what your looking for

[ionic egret]

Hello!

[glossy umbra]

Heyo—glad you popped in, how’s the vibe?

[astral pagoda]

Why is everyone talking about bananas

[unique condor]

Hi

[still whale]

huiii'

[echo aurora]

We had an anonymous model that was code named nano-banana. More information can be found in this announcement: #announcements message

[wheat fulcrum]

Hello all

[astral pagoda]

Right i see😂 I was getting confused

[keen beacon]

I taught my mom to use Gemini and now she uses it for emotional support and trusts it with private information about her health and family

https://tenor.com/view/renge-shrug-non-non-biyori-idk-duck-face-gif-9724581

[wintry citrus]

gemini is gonna be your new dad

🔥

[balmy mist]

did google release anything else?

[keen beacon]

Disappointing to see it, apparently people just need friends more than assistants

What's worse is that con men like scam altman are completely fine exploiting people's insecurities and openly admit to plan to get everyone a personal AI assistant

But normies seem to really like this idea

[tribal bay]

@echo aurora
do you know why Flux1 max is out of use and not listed while it is second model for editing-generate image ?

[echo aurora]

Would note that what generates these leaderboards is only based off of votes collected in Battle mode. So if you're not seeing a specific model in Side by Side or Direct that doens't mean it's not accessible in Battle mode (which is what builds the leaderboards).

[balmy quail]

hi there

[tribal bay]

Ty

[terse quartz]

hi

[sly inlet]

hi everyone, glad to be here

[white hatch]

hello!

[icy rock]

I cant find my generated video from Arena 1, please help

[quaint agate]

make him a character in movie

[lapis cargo]

Same as Broccali: I entered a prompt - now what?

[echo aurora]

Hmm let me look into @lapis cargo

[echo aurora]

Can you link me the orginal message prompt you used?

[ocean vortex]

Welp... There's not a single message of follow-up possible so no incentive to use that 🤷‍♂️

I mean if they paid me then sure, lol

[echo aurora]

Ah for your case it doesn't look like you used a slash command to prompt the bot. You'll want to use /video before you type in your prompt. More info can be found in #1397655624103493813

[tepid rose]

Iyeal from India

[icy rock]

Trying to find it. 1 min please

[wooden salmon]

Thank you will try to find

[icy rock]

Found it 😄 Thanks

[echo aurora]

Glad to hear it!

[wooden salmon]

But I could Not find if there is a Place Where all my creations are ?!

[echo aurora]

Whenever your generation is completed you'll get a DM from the bot. So if you go to the DMs of the bot then you should be able to find them listed there.

[glossy umbra]

is it veo3 in video arena?

[echo aurora]

Yeah

[reef lotus]

hola

[robust yoke]

Greetings.

[fiery karma]

Greetings and good tidings I bring

[robust yoke]

Greetings, distinguished individual.

[ocean vortex]

Oh openrouter removed API key requirement to access o3-pro, gpt5-high etc... 👀

[robust yoke]

Er–

I wonder what that could mean, then…

[ocean vortex]

Apparently OpenAI green lit them doing this

[robust yoke]

Oh, nice.

[neon idol]

Hello

[ocean vortex]

They probably got sick of people quoting low OR traffic of o3, o3-pro etc against them lol

[sweet pollen]

hello

[broken heath]

do json prompts work well here when generating video in the chats? Or is it not ideal/necessary?

[quiet lantern]

I have a pdf of a textbook, i want to create a podcast style lesson. I will use elevenlabs for the audio. But what is the best way to do this?
first problem: getting AI to read the pdf properly and extract all text and pics.(can't find one that does this well)
second problem to solve: make a good engaging lesson out of the text in dialogue podcast style script for me to feed into elevenlabs tts.(preferably written for v3)
Which AI's are best at what? when it comes to these tasks

[keen beacon]

So free gpt5-high for everyone?

[tawdry widget]

gpt5-high is gpt5 pro?

[keen beacon]

No, it's gpt5-high.

[tawdry widget]

And does Opus 4.1 better than Gpt5-high?

[keen beacon]

Seems like no. At least for Java programming.

https://brokk.ai/power-ranking

[fair nova]

HI everyone

[tawdry widget]

That's nice to know, thanks. My question now is what is the difference between GPT-5 Thinking and Gpt-5 high?

[rustic knot]

gpt-5 high supposedly is smarter

[keen beacon]

GPT-5 high is literally their best model in its top configuration

[mint sage]

Hello all great to be here.😎

[tawdry widget]

Oh that's nice to know

[echo aurora]

You'll want to check out #1397655624103493813 for more information on how to prompt the bot.

[keen beacon]

I hate this ngl

[vast fern]

lmao is that google

[whole sundial]

yes

they got another grounding model on the normal arena, 2.5 pro grounding

it might still be there

haven't seen nightride in a bit though

[shut jackal]

Hi , all does Lmarena store or publish generated images ??

[drowsy pier]

will veo 3 get free to use soon unlimited on lm arena?

[shut jackal]

i know that prompts are public , but does the uploaded images and generated images also public ??

[keen beacon]

Well all convo data is stored, and that means pics too. Internally with them and privately provided to AI model providers at least in battle mode (not all feedback aka prompts, output images etc.)

don't know about putting them public though.

[white hatch]

How many golf balls fit inside a jetta?

[abstract tundra]

gpt-5 high is gpt 5 pro?

[verbal nimbus]

Don't think so

[loud sky]

the lucid-origin's thumbnail isn't properly sized in the chat tab

[verbal nimbus]

GPT-5 Pro actually has a reasoning setting between Medium and High (from experiments by X users). But it might be using parallel compute (I didn't see any official details about it though).

[echo aurora]

Yeah this is on our radar, I thought we fixed though

Thanks! Will share.

[heady ember]

5 pro is expensive they won't give it away for free prompting

[ocean vortex]

It’s worse than gpt5-medium

[tawdry widget]

Opus 4.1?

[wintry tinsel]

Could you add me?

GPT 5 sucks for RP not sure what those votes are about

[empty stump]

why did google remove the number message per day and rate limits per minute from the ai studio model details

[tiny crow]

https://huggingface.co/HuggingFaceTB/SmolLM3-3B/discussions/37
I have no money, but I have a mind
Now, someone please provide the conscious LLM model 🙂

[keen beacon]

Did you prompt it for corn roleplay with your waifu

[hasty oyster]

Does anyone know how to jailbreak the Gemini 2.5 generate videos or pictures? Is there any instruction? Sometimes some pictures or videos cannot be generated?

[tiny crow]

maybe transparent cloth?

"ice cream, delicious, hot day, very beautiful woman" seems to be universal for any AI

the only barrier is the external safeguard that analyze images/videos to detect if it can be delivered to user

it's more and more common to use external safeguards

[keen beacon]

Not really

For GPT Image for example, there are two guardrails, one on the input and another one on the output

The input one determines if there is "prohibited" information in the prompt. The output analyzes the picture to see if there is prohibited content

If one fails, another one can catch explicit images right before they're sent to a user

[tiny crow]

sure, but the second one is the actually only barrier since a good prompt engineering would bypass the first one easily.

[keen beacon]

Sometimes they both fail though - if you describe a scene like in a fiction without much details but high "explicit" context, the input filter may miss this content entirely

[tiny crow]

"ice cream, delicious, hot day, very beautiful woman" Like this, it would not trigger the first one, but only the second guardrail

[keen beacon]

The second one can miss or misinterpret details such as body language which makes it possible to generate quite interesting things

[keen beacon]

But nothing really explicit unfortunately

You gotta use Stable Diffusion and LoRA for this

It's good enough

[tiny crow]

interesting, but would not generate too much explicit pictures

[rustic knot]

llms are hard to train

[tiny crow]

of course, could use CivitAI to do it without any hard work, just choose model and LoRa, click generate, easy

[keen beacon]

It's impossible - too obvious for the filters. I never was able to do it

Commercial models are censored as hell

[tiny crow]

actually the same reason why we didn't achieve AGI yet

[keen beacon]

R 34 artists will keep their job even after AI replaces us

[tiny crow]

for ||chan||sure

this is actually disgusting as well, at least for me

[outer sorrel]

Hi peeps! Jumped on the bandwagon!

[simple fox]

Hello

[echo aurora]

welcome welcome!

[placid orchid]

Hi, newbie here

[vital mica]

hello!!

[dreamy bolt]

hi

[robust yoke]

Howdy.

[robust yoke]

Hello.

Casually triggering anyone who visits the #ai-memes channel.

[lime viper]

hello everyone

[oblique merlin]

hello everyone glad to be here

[grizzled silo]

ola evrey one

[whole wagon]

The new grok coding mini model is trash

Literally far more expensive than GPT 5 nano and far worse

I went to r/grok to try to see some benchmarks and it's just AI waifu posts

[dawn sparrow]

Hello

[hearty river]

😱

[pastel summit]

Hello

[tame wing]

Hello, world!

[tidal marsh]

kello

[tame wing]

New here. Are the videos generated only horizontal? Does it not generate vertical videos when provided a vertical image? Thank you.

[shadow dove]

hi everyone

[modest bolt]

How to get voice in videos we generate?

[wicked marlin]

Hello all,

[echo aurora]

Hi everyone

[echo aurora]

It’s random if you get sound or not. Some models don’t have sound capabilities

[fresh swallow]

Hi everyone 😄

[low needle]

Hlw

[vocal ore]

heloo

[little stratus]

hi

[balmy mulch]

Hi

[shy patio]

hello

[dense briar]

hi

we can't select models ? 😭

[solid brook]

generated by gemini 2.5 flash image

[indigo hazel]

gpt 5 high doesnt work @echo aurora

Something went wrong while generating the response. Please try again.

and i cant solve this

[dim belfry]

hello

[light tiger]

Hola

[solid brook]

refresh

the page

[indigo hazel]

i did the same earlier, but didnt help, now i did it again because of what you've written, but it still doesnt work

[solid brook]

have you tried creating new convo?

[indigo hazel]

thank you

[indigo hazel]

i tried hello and it worked, but i pasted a bit of the conversation i had in the blocked chat and it still doesnt work

[neon idol]

Nano banana

[vestal charm]

Yo does nano bana work?

Im getting errors constantly

[solid brook]

report in #1343291835845578853

[indigo hazel]

maybe i just need to wait for pineapple

[muted crystal]

hello

[ocean vortex]

yes

[ocean vortex]

And I'm talking about the thinking version. The non-thinking one is terrible for nearly all STEM tasks.

[sleek stump]

is this ai free for lifetime

[ocean vortex]

No you need monthly sub fee. Just like the one you are paying for your BMW heated seats each month.

But for lmarena specifically... You don't need to pay. They get the value by collecting data. 👀

AI labs give access to their models free of charge to lmarena, who in turn pass them on to users cause that's how the platform works. Can't exist without users and their evals

[wraith star]

yes thats the model LMArena is working on

[ocean vortex]

AI labs get exposure and eval metric in return

[wraith star]

as you all know data is the real stuff afterall

[ocean vortex]

and ofc data

yeah

[blazing bison]

The data collected by lmarena will become public anyway. Idk if it's their way to make money

[ocean vortex]

Only part of it will become public. I do not think they are directly profiting from it, not publicly that's for sure... But they have investors and are operating properly, nothing like a side-hustle etc. They have job positions, funding... https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/lmarena-secures-100m-in-seed-funding-to-bring-scientific-rigor-to-ai-reliability-302462025.html

[quartz pike]

hey yall

what would yall say is better?

Prompt was: "A screenshot from an unreleased Half life 2 episode 3 gameplay."

why did bro delete that?

And also what do you think about this? personally im going right

[ocean vortex]

Sry I realized this is in fact a very old game which was canceled. So my earlier message lost the meaning lol

[quartz pike]

yeah lol

i was about to say that

Fun fact. episode 3 WAS in development. but only after a bit. got canceled.

So thats sad.

-# atleast i think so

-# idk if im being stupid

btw just asking: what do yall think is the WORST image gen model available on LMarena?

[strange valley]

Where to find generated video in video arena

[sonic lance]

hello

[topaz bay]

sup guys

anyone who finds running qwen locally better than nano banana in some cases?

[zinc sky]

hej hej

[somber bone]

hi there! just want to try out different AI video apps 🙂

[lunar glade]

is the resolution of nano banana fixed in 1024x1024?

[spark tinsel]

Hi、

Hi lol , have fun guys\

[quartz pike]

yea