#Simple way to solve alting

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untold fog
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please no😭

inland thistle
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  • vpns are allowed
  • "proof" that cannot be fabricated yet can be consistently supplied will be very hard to get
  • ht3 and below ranks become meaningless and full of cheating
violet belfry
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that just inflates the active players

inland thistle
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Indeed indeed

dull notch
# violet belfry that just inflates the active players

Its even worse than that.
Alters would clog the tiertesting queue, making it even harder for normal players to get tested.
Many players will then also sell their tiered alt accounts without anything stopping them.
It also lets banned players bypass their ban quite easily.

untold fog
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^^

waxen dock
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Why is alting even an issue?

inland thistle
waxen dock
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That would be costly for them

inland thistle
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It's shockingly cheap

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It's not really a hypothetical; people do it right now

waxen dock
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And the anti cheat is suppose to be good. No ones gonna alt if they get banned within a few matches

inland thistle
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Yup 👍

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And even if they manage to stay unbanned for a while, they won't be able to do that either, because the anti-alt will catch them

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Allowing rulebreakers to alt is functionally the same as having a "pay to unban" model

waxen dock
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Its just a non exstient issur

jolly prism
dull notch
weary frost
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alting isnt even an issue in pvp ranked?

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its like having multiple accounts on valorant

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the only reason its banned on the tier list is because you aren't allowed to bypass cooldown

weary frost
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if they cant play while cheating then it shouldnt matter

inland thistle
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Not trying to ban alts only works if you assume that your anticheat is perfect

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Which is a really really bad assumption to make

weary frost
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how long will it take for the average cheater to get banned

inland thistle
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Valorant's anticheat isn't perfect, and they have a well paid fulltime team working on it, so I'm under no illusion that we are going to be the ones to "solve" anticheat

inland thistle
weary frost
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if it takes like an hour they will run through all their accounts super quickly

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and im assuming for obvious cheats it will be quicker

inland thistle
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Within a few games, if the AC catches onto what they're doing
Much longer, if it doesn't
Essentially instantly if they're doing the kinds of hacks that don't work on pvpr (like velocity or reach)

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Although you do bring up a decent point; blatant cheaters will get caught so fast that the anti-alting will barely matter

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HWID is best for catching closet cheaters

weary frost
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I think macros will also be easily caught because you have access to their inputs

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so like if they are cheating and getting away with it its going to be something very minor

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and at that point the alt ban wont matter because they wont have gotten caught in the first place

inland thistle
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Anticheat isn't the only way to catch someone for cheating (source: we catch people for cheating all the time in the tierlist for reasons other than server AC flags)

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Investigations are time consuming; we aren't going to play whack-a-mole with closet cheaters

weary frost
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will you guys implement a system like chess.com that undoes losses against cheaters