#Remove one gamemode (permanently)

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jade pelican
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🥀 🥀

frosty parrot
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Crystal and Mace

analog wedge
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when smp man

analog wedge
frosty parrot
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It’s not fun

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For me tho

analog wedge
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ig

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its fun rn for me bc i can elytra mace little noobs who stand still

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but i have no clue how to do any of that cool tech

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taht is actually "crystal"

frosty parrot
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✅

haughty crown
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did i make a fire forum?

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2nd most popular forum to my knowledge

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unique + fun+ the only mode where ppl are lowk still discovering tech

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honestly not that drainy after kit changes

wicked breach
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pot or npot

glass geyser
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I cast my vote for pot

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Cuz I don't like it

meager zenith
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Mace should be a subtier lwk

austere valve
# meager zenith Mace should be a subtier lwk

i can def see mace going back to being a subtier. I swear Mace is only a main gamemode bc wemmbu made it too popular where they found it weird to have it as a subtier

edit: idk why but i used to think mace was a former subtier, it's not, it was just it's own tierlist before marlow brought it into mctiers

inner rampart
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Axe pvp

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it's not necessary

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theres SMP pvp

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which has axe and shield

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so its js stuns

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speed

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totem

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and more health

jade lichen
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Genuinely like saying UHC is the same as SMP 😭

inner rampart
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bro

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SMP has everything from axe

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except bow

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ok wait

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I see the issue now

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mb

blissful frigate
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Axe is just a horrid kit tho

inner rampart
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I personally don't enjoy it but I wouldn't say that.

wicked breach
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if ur gonna remove a gm remove one of the pot gms

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theyre like almost exactly the same

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whoever has better aim is basically guaranteed the win

frosty parrot
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Mace spear Cpvp and cart ( I know it’s in subtiers) these all should be in subtiers

carmine magnet
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all of subtiers

haughty crown
frosty parrot
austere valve
frosty parrot
olive kelp
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IMO spear mace replaces mace, cart and dia SMP get added

loud cobalt
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The mcpvp mace kit suck, if I can remove one gamemode from mcpvpclub it will be mace

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besides that IDK

olive kelp
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I’d remove it if I could replace it with spear mace

haughty crown
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Subtiers is less popular mode

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I would get like pot/npot

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But the two most popular don’t make sense

olive kelp
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I agree with masight

austere valve
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i dont like mace but it is the second most popular gamemode, i would probably say npot just because the kit is awful

shell void
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facts with elytra it makes it so much longer

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ngl most of the people here are biased or just don't have enough experience

quartz kite
shell void
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xD

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I play most gamemodes besides neth pot which explains me not knowing about what treeman stated above

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I feel like axe needs less arrows but its probably a hot take

quartz kite
shell void
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lmao

quartz kite
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Cuz my Bow aim is insane for no reason

shell void
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elytra is strange but it could be good in some situations

quartz kite
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I use it to escape hole diggers in Crystal

shell void
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💀

shell void
quartz kite
shell void
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theobald vs (danger) marlow explosive diarrhea kit 💀

quartz kite
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I was just abt to type that

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Elytra PvP is strange because it has no armor 💀 and they give you a fire aspect netherite sword and a flame bow with a tonne of arrows to js go around spamming and hoping you hit ur opponent

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It’s like midnight for me and my schedule is cooked so ima go sleep

stiff talon
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All of them. How about we go get jobs instead?

quartz kite
stiff talon
olive kelp
austere valve
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yes elytra mace just makes it way too long

radiant vessel
quartz kite
haughty crown
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the drain aint that bad anymore

haughty crown
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and irrelavant kit

graceful wadi
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Nethpot or pot

grand vortex
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nethpot or pot

radiant vessel
shell void
elder dagger
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Dsmp

errant acorn
jade pelican
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Dsmp

regal jolt
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Dsmp

radiant vessel
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Dsmp isn't a gamemode wdym

regal jolt
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It's bad though

shell void
errant acorn
elder dagger
errant acorn
blissful frigate
elder dagger
errant acorn
elder dagger
jade pelican
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We should remove sword

worthy pendant
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Hear me out Nethpot

olive kelp
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I hear u

eager loom
opaque horizon
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Mace, i play so i ragebait its players without even using it. Axe is superior to all gamemodes and you can't change my mind

brazen sable
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UHC definitely not, it’s a one of a kind mode with Cobs gaps and golden heads

radiant vessel
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And most of the people who play it kinda suck and you can just beat them without using mace

jade lichen
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And then just spam breach swap

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It's like playing smp but with a breach mace against somebody who doesn't know how to play smp

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And axe is so goated

errant acorn
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Remove dsmp

radiant vessel
errant acorn
radiant vessel
errant acorn
proper meteor
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Lowk I would remove dpot if I had to remove 1 gm

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Only if I had to

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Cause I like all the gamemodes

errant acorn
errant acorn
olive kelp
errant acorn
olive kelp
errant acorn
olive kelp
# errant acorn How so

nethpot is a gamemode where the only difference to diapot is the gear type, the healing, and the 2 totems compared to mace which has an entirely unused item in the other modes, and vanilla has everything with no limitations

errant acorn
olive kelp
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but Im helping develop ideas

jolly raft
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Nethpot actually such a bad gamemode especially before the kit change

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It's just me hearing a crit sound for 10 minutes and making sure my mends right

errant acorn
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Nethpot melee requires gamesense

jolly raft
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Yh but every gamemode requires game sense

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To me nethpot requires the least

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Like there's not even kb

errant acorn
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Nethpot requires alot of gamesense

open siren
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would go with dpot since it's very similar to sword, basically just with pots and speed. Nethpot is also debatable but the gamemode isn't very similar to anything

radiant vessel
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I like sword gamemodes but nethpot is just boring

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At least diamond pot is fun

olive kelp
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true

errant acorn
errant acorn
glass geyser
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Dia pot

patent inlet
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Diapot cause its just speed with insane damage

proper meteor
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But I kinda like all the gms

patent inlet
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Same

stoic rapids
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We need to be realistic. If we play with unlimited ressource, vanilla is the strongest gamemode against the others. And actually because of the crystals. Also its a gamemode that evolve with the time. We can't delete it.

For the modern version smps and the future smps nobody will be in dia armor, so we need to focus on the neth. But the neth kb suck and its remove a main component of the PvP. So we need to counter it with feather falling arrow like in vanilla. Also all the aliens that crits spam will need to know how to play the game.

I think we need to:
remove dia pot,
add arrow with feather falling effect in neth poth and sword.
And change the diamond armor of sword to a neth armor.

Everyone like the original kb in dia armor in sword.
But we need to upgrade to neth because its better.
But the nobody like the neth kb.
So we need to counter it with feather falling effect.

I hope that the traditional sword pvp will continue without loosing main good thing that make combo so cool like kb and displacement
PS: my main is sword.

proper meteor
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none but if I was forced to then dpot

patent inlet
stoic rapids
patent inlet
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Crits are such an important aspect of pvp

proper meteor
proper meteor
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I want to be free

patent inlet
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And it completely ruins movemement

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Nethpot is a unique mode. Diapot is sword but you are 3 hit

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Baiscally

proper meteor
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So a few gms

patent inlet
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Yes

stoic rapids
patent inlet
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P-Crits?

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Double crits?

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Hitselects wouldnt exist without crits

open siren
patent inlet
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You basically reduce sword on spacing

stoic rapids
patent inlet
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Yep

stoic rapids
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Its just the idea of two dude who just crits spam each other that made me think that sword could be better than this

patent inlet
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How can your main be sword and you seem to have no idea about the mode?

stoic rapids
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When i combo i never jump

patent inlet
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How do you fight someone who jumpresets?

stoic rapids
# patent inlet How do you fight someone who jumpresets?

There are a technique that allow you to have a slightly longer range than your oponent if he is mid air and you on the ground. Because he aim at you at different angle, like 20 deggre and you hit him at 0 degree. So you have a longer range while he is in the air but the timing to use this is very tight. You just need to hit the leg at the right time. And its the only thing i found to counter crit without doing another crit

stoic rapids
patent inlet
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How do you find it?

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Its not highly accurate but its fine ig

stoic rapids
patent inlet
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I'd just continute to jumpreset

stoic rapids
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ahh

patent inlet
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?

stoic rapids
patent inlet
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No

stoic rapids
patent inlet
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Thats the point of jumpresets

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Taking almost no kb

stoic rapids
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Many time

patent inlet
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I am getting thrown away

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But not far enough

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Critting is as important as spacing is

stoic rapids
patent inlet
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It can

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But remember; 2 crits are like 3 sprint hits

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So even if you can punish some hits i will p-crit you back to often

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Which could be countered with a hit select

open siren
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that's not the point of mctiers (or kits in general)

stoic rapids
# patent inlet But remember; 2 crits are like 3 sprint hits

Yeah and because of that everyone do it i can understand it. But i can also see that there are some very skilled player that are very more likely to be hit by a sprint hit than a crits.
The problem with crits is that if everyone do that we lose all the other thing. Think then what is the point to do other thing that just spam crits ? I think that we reduce the sword pvp at something it wasen't mean to be

stoic rapids
patent inlet
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Because crits are just op

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Look at this and how often they crit

open siren
stoic rapids
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I mean crits spamming

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Its op so everyone should do it no ?

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And with that we will get everyone just spam crit at each other

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And i don't think we want this

errant acorn
austere valve
errant acorn
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Its PvP

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Plus it's very hard to hit people so adding amour would just make the fight longer

austere valve
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yeah but its not realistic

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yk

errant acorn
austere valve
olive kelp
real junco
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The only similarity is that they both have pots and they both have no shield

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Only similarity

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Everything else is different

olive kelp
real junco
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Theres some skill transfer between gamemodes

Shield modes have good transfer

Pot and melee mods have transfer

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Crystal and mace has some transfer

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But theres a reason theyre all main tier gamemodes

olive kelp
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Yeah

honest creek
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every gamemode is good in my eyes, but my least favorite is probably netherite op so i'd choose that. but pot and uhc are the least popular, so it'd make most sense to remove one of those

dusk bay
# jolly raft Like there's not even kb

Im not a nethpot player but I do understand the gamemode. Nethpot is all about aim AND healing. Learning healing in Nethpot is quite different to other gamemodes because as you stated there is less kb.

dusk bay
tender panther
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neth pot or crystal

stiff talon
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bomb crystal

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remove it from existence

errant acorn
haughty crown
jade pelican
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I hate crystal

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Crystal deserves to be buried irl

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No ceremony or anything

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I hate kt

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Its like if a lion didnt have wings

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Didn't you get put in a slander?

earnest coral
jade pelican
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🐟

olive kelp
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If wemmbu switches to spear mace then mace would get replaced by spear mace

austere valve
waxen wraith
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i think evry one choosing nethop

meager zenith
olive kelp
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It’s a good gmd

lone kindle
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i wanna change my vote to diamond pot

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because the games damage legit needs to be modified to make the gamemode viable 💀

jolly raft
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Cos you have to be so aware all the time that you can just drop

open siren
acoustic shard
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low cortisol

open siren
real junco
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youd just get countered by crit deflection into combo

acoustic shard
real junco
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and get put into a corner

acoustic shard
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1v1 me then

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and let's see who wins

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ill only crit

real junco
acoustic shard
real junco
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I dont have an ego to really do it anyway

acoustic shard
real junco
loud pike
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😭😭

static nebula
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Diapot

bright snow
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mace (cause I suck at it)

graceful wadi
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No bro mace is so fun

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When you know have muscle memory

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Otherwise...

fiery vortex
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most people who don't like mace are bad at it

olive kelp
acoustic shard
errant acorn
acoustic shard
errant acorn
olive kelp
stray aspen
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Nethpot

proper meteor
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Dpot

brazen sable
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Js bc u don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s bad.

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It’s my favorite gm

olive kelp
loud pike
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Only reason it could be CONSIDERED a bad gamemode is no xp/the elytra durability thing

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But if there was mending the gamemode would genuinely last like 20 minutes a round

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Any other reason it's just that the "mace is op" or smth dumb

olive kelp
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I would say that spear mace is better balanced, as a player who has played both

brazen garnet
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remove netpot guys

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no need for the mc community

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F tiers gamemode

olive kelp
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Somehow

drowsy fjord
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pot

jade pelican
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Everyone wants to remove pot, play players wanna remove npot, npot players want to remove cpvp, so ima fix all the problems

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Lets ban sword.

austere valve
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🥀

olive kelp
blissful frigate
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Freak sword

austere valve
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ts is just hating to hate

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sword is the perfect fundemental of mc pvp

loud pike
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I agree

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BUT

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Uhhhhh

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What point was I gonna make?

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Ehh remove nethpot

austere valve
loud pike
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Always said that

olive kelp
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Yeahhh

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Remove all gamemodes they were related to Mctiers

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Abolish it all

austere valve
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yeah

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replace them with debuff kit

blissful frigate
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It takes you 200 hours to teach you that jumping and clicking is meta

olive kelp
blissful frigate
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So

olive kelp
austere valve
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idk if anything is really "meta" in sword. i feel like every strategy has another that counters it

olive kelp
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Yeah, which is good

loud pike
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like its a simple gamemode yeah but like not that simple

austere valve
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honestly if it takes you 200 hours to learn any sword tactic, you're probably not doing it right

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blissful frigate
blissful frigate
blissful frigate
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Watch high level gameplay, play at a high level, it’s just not interesting, there’s obviously tech, (hit selecting, jump resetting etc.) But unless you get to that level, or even if you do, it’s more efficient to learn melee in less boiled down gamemodes.

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This is coming from someone who’s mained sword, and who’s definitely good at and has benefited from doing so, but I just don’t believe that fundamental gamemodes like axe or sword are useful.

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Plus they’re ping dependent

blissful frigate
# olive kelp Wdym

I don’t get this point, my point was that sword naturally teaches you things in an inefficient way.

blissful frigate
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But if you’re fight a similar skilled equal pinged player, you’re both going to be attempting very similar things, with the only variation being if your opponent sucks at countering something. There’s really one playstyle that counter all besides the same playstyle.

austere valve
# blissful frigate I don’t get this point, my point was that sword naturally teaches you things in ...

tbf even though i dont agree, whether sword teaches melee efficiently or not isnt really relevant to what you first replied to. I never mentioned how efficiently sword teaches melee, just that sword is the gamemode that focuses the most on melee, and obviously the one where it is most important to the gamemode. Melee is the fundamental skill of most pvp, not crystal or mace really, but those aren't typical gamemodes. Sword is just pure melee and nothing else. Thus sword ties into any melee-based gamemode, which is most of them. Hence why I said that sword is the fundamental of minecraft pvp. Have ht1 gamesense but if you have lt5 melee, that gamesense isnt getting you anywhere in a kit like smp.

austere valve
midnight scaffold
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cpvp

quasi lion
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Diapot

molten fern
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smp

tropic onyx
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nethpot has to go

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maybe crystal

olive kelp
tropic onyx
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yeah vanilla can stay

blissful frigate
blissful frigate
haughty crown
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this form way more popular than i thought it would get lols

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but the correct answer is npot so

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

olive kelp
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yeah lmao

austere valve
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very true

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remove npot, add dsmp and cart

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only correct answer

olive kelp
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^^^

radiant vessel
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Remove all gamemodes and add the patience PvP suggestion

austere valve
radiant vessel
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This should be the main update

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The April fools update can be adding the main 8 gamemodes for one day

opaque horizon
radiant vessel
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:(

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Why

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It's based

opaque horizon
inner rampart
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its too basic

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there cant be new metas/mechanics

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shits just old

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"I'm good at pressing WASD while clicking my mouse"

austere valve
# inner rampart there cant be new metas/mechanics

Tbh a few of the older gms dont often have new metas. If you prefer newer gms like mace or such where it’s still developing and new methods are discovered often, then that’s fair. But honestly sword is just more satisfying to me. Sure there is an objective best strategy for every situation, but you still have to choose that strategy and execute it well. You could kind of think of it like chess ig.

olive kelp
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I would love to be a sword pvper if I didn’t get clipped so much lol

granite spruce
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remove spear

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100%

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who agrees

austere valve
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🦗

stiff talon
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I thought when the spear came out, it's pvp mode was actually going to be cool

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its jsut elytra mace but somehow worse

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no originality

olive kelp
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Also great for clips

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Less than half the time in some cases

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And there is no elytra stalling

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No need to change the durability of it to prevent that too

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Also it isn’t a main or subtier gamemode currently???

tropic onyx
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spear or spear-mace

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i mean there is elytra spear too on minemen

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i think it has fireworks but it has firework cooldown

tropic onyx
olive kelp
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*website

tropic onyx
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o

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spear mace is much better than elytra mace in my opinion

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and when i say elytra mace, i mean like the one with fireworks

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not normal mace

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lowk i think cart should become a main gamemode

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on mctiers

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it requires so much skill

olive kelp
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Cart should be a main gamemode I agree

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Mace with fireworks is so bad, if both ppl are trying to hit the other than it just becomes stalling

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imo spear mace is better than normal mace

austere valve
olive kelp
austere valve
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Mhm

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I don’t like many of their kit changes but that is one I really like actually

olive kelp
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yea

errant acorn
olive kelp
granite spruce
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i think i created a spear good or bad battle

olive kelp
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lol yeah

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I main spear mace but play other gamemodes

radiant vessel
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I hate the spear because I suck at keybinds and I don't have enough I'll actually remember to use to have both a mace and spear at once

olive kelp
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lol that makes sense

jade pelican
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anything that takes effort is too hard

radiant vessel
jade pelican
radiant vessel
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Well it's not an accurate summary

austere valve
olive kelp
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I use breach and spear in the same slot so I couldn’t

austere valve
olive kelp
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I could probably function with another slot though actually

austere valve
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same

loud pike
radiant vessel
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I hate mace PvP too 😭

radiant vessel
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You don't need both maces

austere valve
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I’ve never played a full match of MCTiers mace to this day

radiant vessel
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LOL

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W

olive kelp
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lmao

radiant vessel
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Not for me

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I die instantly

olive kelp
radiant vessel
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Wdym it's ranked

olive kelp
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Not .club

radiant vessel
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Oh nvm I'm dumb

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😭

olive kelp
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lol

radiant vessel
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They have like the same name

olive kelp
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yeah

misty moth
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npot

midnight scaffold
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Vanilla and or mace

elder dagger
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mace is so fun

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i love queueing into a 3 hour duel

olive kelp
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I agree

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longer = better yk

jade pelican
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Guys we cant agree on one mode

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So let's just remove all

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And switch to subtiers

loud pike
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this guy is cooking

olive kelp
austere valve
olive kelp
austere valve
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hmmm

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solacetiers

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btw arc

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dont forget

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sheep

pearl sapphire
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Like if u ask me id rather not play pvp at all

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Than to duel in fackin debuff

austere valve
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subtiers had gamemodes like cart and diasmp (better than most mctiers) and then they have gamemodes like tridetn and debuff (worse than nethop)

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i mean...

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variety

loud pike
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variety!

olive kelp
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birb tiers

lapis rock
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pot/vanilla

olive kelp
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why is vanilla so hated

austere valve
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bc its hard

tropic onyx
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lowk crystal should just cease to exist and then have vanilla be a sub tier and then cart takes crystal's place as a main tier

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wat do we think

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and subtiers lowk suck like only cart and diamond smp and maybe diamond vanilla are good

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there's really good gamemodes and then there's like some awful ones

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like bow and speed and creeper and bed and trident

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😭

radiant vessel
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It's horrific

loud pike
radiant vessel
austere valve
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and speed

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idk bro just a free way for sword players to get lt3 in a subtier

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bow is actually decent tho

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bow is hate

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trident sucks we all agree

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bed i would never play

knotty barn
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*dol9hin

summer iron
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gng lets settle this nethop shouldnt be a kit

austere valve
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tr8

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tru*

loud pike
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Every nethop player I see doesn't main it they just play it cause they hate themselves or something

jade pelican
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Lets rate modes from best to worst:
Best: Npot
Vanilla
Diapot
Mace
Axe
Smp
Uhc
Worst: Sword

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So let's remove sword

jade pelican
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We remove cart

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From all Tiers

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Renove vanilla

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Add crystal

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Put bp npot in carts place

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And solution fixed

loud pike
blissful frigate
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I like nethpot :)

summer iron
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nethpot is jst spam crit

summer iron
jade pelican
jade pelican
summer iron
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and too many hackers

jade pelican
jade pelican
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so go tiertest

austere valve
summer iron
olive kelp
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I mean I think vanilla would be higher if it was swapped but yeah

jade pelican
summer iron
harsh cloud
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neth pot is pointless

elder dagger
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I disagree

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A sword does come to a point

olive kelp
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hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

errant acorn
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Worse version of uhc

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Hot take:SMP kits should be removed because there isn't anything unique or original about it that sets it apart from other gms which is the same thing for dsmp plus both gms are easy asf to get good at and if you don't believe me ask the community yourself

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And also nethpot and dpot are overhated

opaque lotus
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What is that pfp bro I’m crine 😭🥀💔✌️✌️✌️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

olive kelp
olive kelp
errant acorn
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Yes

olive kelp
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That it’s ragebait?

errant acorn
jade pelican
austere valve
jade pelican
austere valve
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Aura

jade pelican
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Ok fine

austere valve
opaque lotus
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I’m sending this to EVERYONE

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Why u delete that bro

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I saw that

jade pelican
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👀

olive kelp
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‘lmao’ was in reaction to the situation which would be taken out of context by what you sent

austere valve
olive kelp
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Yeah

austere valve
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Not hard tho SMP kit sucks

opaque lotus
errant acorn
olive kelp
austere valve
olive kelp
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Not close at all

austere valve
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DSMP is better

jade pelican
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If you dont use windows you cant get ssed!!!

austere valve
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Way diff metas and gamesense

jade pelican
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Honestly remove smp

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Keep uhc

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And remove damp

olive kelp
austere valve
olive kelp
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Ohh

austere valve
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Like when they go on your computer and check your files

olive kelp
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Ok

opaque lotus
austere valve
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It’s highly invasive and dangerous if person is untrustworthy

olive kelp
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Like the marlow thing

opaque lotus
errant acorn
opaque lotus
jade pelican
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I personally want to be a top sser, ss someone with a million dollars and give a safe .exe

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(In minecraft ofc)

opaque lotus
olive kelp
opaque lotus
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Bubble web is useful tho

jade pelican
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Uhc players when given 64 cobs:

olive kelp
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Dsmp players are usually sweats though

opaque lotus
olive kelp
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I play UHC but I also spam cobs in dsmp

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Lmao

opaque lotus
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lol

dense tree
dense tree
dense tree
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ppl grind diasmp

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there are almost more tier3s and above than tier 5s

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kinda

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almost

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not really

loud pike
olive kelp
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T3 sword

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Or smth

loud pike
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not even

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vau sucks

opaque lotus
# opaque lotus
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What OS are u on

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Windows

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minor grotto
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Sumo

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Because it's useless

elder dagger
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Dsmp

olive kelp
proper meteor
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Dpot
Because I suck at it + we do not need 2 pot gamemodes in my opinion.

blissful frigate
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SMP gets to much slander, But I think a speed 2 shield kit is necessary for the PvP community, and SMP is built in a generally enjoyable and helpful way for anyone trying to get better at the game, or just enjoys shield melee.

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and diamond smp and uhc are vastly different gamemodes, they only get compared because they teach/host similar skills when it comes to shield tech and cobs.

olive kelp
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Once I heard som1 say that Crystal isn’t skill, it’s just whoever clicks the fastest wins

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Not true at all

elder dagger
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crystal has the highest skill ceiling of any gamemode

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by ur guys logic axe pvp is just holding ur shield up while jumping and the other person doing the same

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tier 6 theory

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or 1.8 is whoever clicks the fastest

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you dont know what you dont know

blissful frigate
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axe is the only gamemode I hate with all my heart

elder dagger
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ok but ur ht5

summer iron
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worst gamemode nethop now we have settled it

radiant vessel
blissful frigate
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Definitely

elder dagger
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Yeah... thats my point

blissful frigate
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Nah

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S

chrome linden
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nethpot was created so people could get adjusted to new kb but that is useless now

loud pike
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Nethop more like because it shouldn't exist

radiant vessel
loud pike
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That's why im a genius

austere valve
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hater

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I’m getting lt3 diasmp this summer anyways

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Promise

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so like

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i uh

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dk where I’m going with this

tropic onyx
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im not gonna lie tho smp is kinda mid

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but dia smp is fire

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like smp is ok but i personally wouldn't play it

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i am #1 cart and mace glazer tho

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i wish they made cart a main gamemode

olive kelp
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Nah you’d adapt

austere valve
olive kelp
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Ah ok

blissful frigate
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Lt3 dsmp is free for mizuki smp players abyay

loud pike
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ht1 dia smp is free for me

olive kelp
#

LT0 all gamemodes is free for people who play on the MIZUKI SMP! PLAY TODAY! #1509968030426464408

errant acorn
errant acorn
blissful frigate
errant acorn
shell void
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Agreed I think the better idea should be adding kits lol

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But the issue is it gets too much

olive kelp
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The best solution might be having like a subtiers category so that it’s less crowded, but demotion could be compared to removing a gamemode

chrome linden
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i just think the smp kit is bad

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they should update it to be actually like what people would main

radiant vessel