autofarms

[karmic mica]

AUTOFARMS IS REAL AND ITS NOT ONLY BUBBLE BEAR EGGS AND STUFF FROM TETO. I KNOW ITS WORKS, SOON YOU WILL SEE!!!

[untold sparrow]

You can turn a blasphemy into a mob grinder since it has an AoE

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[karmic mica]

what is blasphemy

[untold sparrow]

Spider-like creature

Drops kila

[karmic mica]

oh

[karmic mica]

okay but what mobs i can grind?

[untold sparrow]

I used it to kill a bunch of golems, but in theory any moderate sized mob should work such as mannequins or sheep and such

It just has to be something that you can put in it's AoE range

[mental bolt]

So now we're doing bio tech? With the giant spiders? Great.

[red lance]

Ooh so I have a theory. When you spawn the big hairy sea guys on land, they can actually destroy blocks with their claw. And the blocks drop

So surely there’s a way to use them to mine

[novel hound]

or you could use the block that spits out damaging balls

[blissful laurel]

now that obsidian is blast proof, here is highly inefficient agni farm

typical spaning chamber but with gaps for agni to fall into water, collection funnels farther below outside of the blast radius

walls are obsidian close to the water surface

inside chamber

larger spaning platform increases spawns but makes agnis likely to get stuck

funnels for collection at least 10 blocks underwater

[blissful laurel]

131 fire in 20 minutes

[karmic mica]

thats fire

[blissful laurel]

more optimized agni farm: instead of waiting for agni to fall down, all valid spawning surfaces are now covered in water resulting in instant kill. can utilize multiple vigil blocks. each explosion is an agni kill. fjre js useful for crafting large amounts of obsidian for builds

vigils are exactly 5 blocks above water (including 1 block deep water)

the block exactly below the vigil and the vigil itself must be excluded from valid spawn locations (because if agni dies the exact block under vigil it will sometimes break it), so a blast proof colomn of obsidian is required from the floor to the ceiling as such

if an agni attempts to spawn in the column it will be relocated to the top most valid block (the ceiling) so we cover that with water

example design with 7 vigils

9 agnis every 12 seconds is 9180 fire per hour

collection is a problem tho lol

[green holly]

@blissful laurel how big is the spawn radius for vigils? i'm trying to make a boid obliteration chamber

[blissful laurel]

i think its a 7x7x7 cube with the vigil in the center (3 block distance from the vigil in any direction)

im not too sure though but i think 9x9x9 is safe

spawning is weird sometimes it can ignore collisions and spawn a vermin in a wall

might be mistaken but if you do a 7x7x7 very rarely a vermin can spawn in the edge of the last block and noclip into the wall

my agni farm in survival is 7x7x7 spawn chamber and havent had trouble though

[green holly]

ayyy thank you :D

[blissful laurel]

one thing you have to watch out for (especially when spawning hostile things) is that i think theres a radius where vermin can spawn in but arent loaded so cant move, so a lot can spawn and clump together. so my agni farm got like 50 agnis loaded at once when i came back and caused a chain reaction and broke out.. im not sure of the radius though i havent read the code only speaking from guesses

[green holly]

and do you know how it interacts with water? i placed a vigil in the ocean of the clonaqualia and it'd only spawn stuff when it had a side contacting air apparently

[green holly]

oh interesting!!!

[blissful laurel]

it does require a solid block to spawn

[green holly]

neato

[blissful laurel]

submerging the block underwater is okay

[green holly]

so id be able to effectively limit the vertical spawn radius to only upward of the block if i place it underwater, sick thanks

i now just need to get an unholy amount of shepachs and my boid obliterator shall be done 🙏

[blissful laurel]

yeah should be fine imo but im not 100% sure beacause vigils are so janky sometimes things just noclip out of places for no reason

[green holly]

dang..

it would be REALLY funny to place the vigil with just one block's worth of spawning area around it above the water

fill it with agnis

place a solid sheet of obsidian on it, cover the obsidian in water

wait nvm

thatd blow the vigil up wouldnt it

[blissful laurel]

the obsidian dosent "block" explosion. if a vigil is covered in obsidian but within the blast radius it gets destroyed

obsdian just saves itself

yeah

[green holly]

makes sense

[blissful laurel]

yeah i think this should be okay as long as there is no solid blocks under the water within spawning radius

water is ignored in the spawning process it functions same as air. it is not the water invalidating the spawn its just that water isnt a solid block. if a block has water above it it is still a valid spawning location

[green holly]

ohhhhh makes sense makes sense

...wouldn't you be able to just submerge an agni vigil underwater, cover the possible spawns of the vigil in obsidian, and make the obsidian stretch high enough while still submerged to keep the explosions away from the vigil?

[blissful laurel]

sorry if i got anything wrong though

[blissful laurel]

yes

the farm above is for when you dont have enough obsidian

[green holly]

ur good ur still the most knowledgable person on the topic i know 🙏

[green holly]

ohhh makes sense makes sense

[blissful laurel]

heres example of the essense block mimic somehow spawning out of the radius and then a gold mimic noclipping out of a sealed area

always test the dangerous farms in divine mode before actually building them 👍

so my current guess for vigil mechanichs:
it will select a random block from the 7x7x7 area centered at the vigil
if it is air, do not spawn anything, the spawn fails
if it is a solid block, spawn at the first air block above the solid block (can be outside of the cube), the spawn succeeds

so if it selects inside a wall, it will move up until it hits air and spawn it there, so covering the entire 7x7x7 spawning cube makes the spawn always succeed and high spawn rate. here i buried multiple vigil blocks in solid ground so all the spawns gets transferred to the top platform. (the spawn outside of the chamber i have no idea how it happened)

upon further testing, i think the spawn area is a sphere with diameter 8

so it pokes out of the 7x7x7 cube by 0.5 blocks on the very tip (explains the rare spawn outside of the chamber)

and for a block to be selected for spawn, it must have "visual contact" with the vigil

if its blocked off by another block its spawned there instead

[blissful laurel]

if all points inside the sphere are equally likely to be chosen, we would expect about 26% of the spawns to be outside the 7x7x7 cube (this is not true, it is very rare) so probably this is what happened:

1. a random direction is chosen from the vigil (unclear distribution, probably the unit vector of a vector from 3 random scalars)
2. a uniform random distriution generates a distance from 0 to 4.
3. a spawn in that direction and distance is attempted
   if this method is used, about 1.45% of spawns are outside of the 7x7x7 cube, which is roughly what i actually observe, so i think this is probably correct (random azimuth and zenith angels for the unit vector expects about 3% of the spawns to be outside of the 7x7x7 cube, which could also be the method used)

to explain that it only spawns at location where it has "line of sight" , this is probably how it works in full (people with the code can confirm or disprove it)

1. a random direction is chosen from the vigil (unclear distribution, probably the unit vector of a vector from 3 random scalars)
2. a uniform random distriution generates a distance from 0 to 4.
   3.** the first solid block the vector intersects** is chosen, if the vector did not hit any solid blocks, the spawn fails entirely
3. the first air block above the chosen block is selected as the spawn location

[green holly]

wait divine is basically a creative mode????

i havent touched any of the alternate modes yet..

[blissful laurel]

yes

[green holly]

any suggested improvements to the design?

only thing i can think of is extending vertically to add more vigils

[blissful laurel]

is the killing speed fast enough

try clay shepach it deals more damage i think

the damage is based on velocity too but its probably to get high velocity balls in a farm

from the things i found the optimal general farm is probably burying the vigil completely underground so the spawns get concentrated to a 3x3 area on the surface while keeping max spawn rate

you can stack multiple vigils vertically that way too

if you don't have solid ground a 3x3xn pillar also works with vigil in the center block

theoretically this should be the most convenient to farm, i havent tested it myself yet you could give it a try and lmk if it works

i only discovered recently that vigils need a line of sight to the spawning location

so this is enough to prevent spawning outside of the chamber

this is my current guess for vigil mechanics

[blissful laurel]

this dosent work just tested this (dont try my suggestion sorry)

[blissful laurel]

yeah i think the farm looks pretty good just maybe as you said more vigils and possibily clay shepach if you need faster kill

trying to figure out the exact mechanics from in-game only is hard for me because it just behaves so werid, i wish someone can look at the code and tell us lol

vigils are so weird man

its sometimes slow sometimes fast, sometimes needs line of sight, something straight out noclips, can "transfer" upwards and spawn outside of radius too

what im pretty sure of is the radius 4 sphere thing though, spawns could be transferred outside the sphere if the location it attempts to spawn is blocked off

[green holly]

killing speed great; spawn speed abysmal

[green holly]

did but I decided balls cover more area because they launch with more speed plus i want the blue plastic as a byproduct

[green holly]

i stacked a bunch of vigils vertically so it got faster and extended the farm as such

and boids somehow started getting out of the farm

💔

[blissful laurel]

are they somehow spawning out of chamber or are they noclipping after spawning

both happens to me too 💔

[pine vigil]

This is the spawn logic if anyone is still interested

func attempt_spawn() -> void :
    shape.force_shapecast_update()
    var entity_count: int = shape.get_collision_count()
    if entity_count < max_count:
        ray.global_position = (global_position + (Vector3(randf_range(-1, 1), randf_range(-1, 1), randf_range(-1, 1)).normalized() * randf_range(1, spawn_radius)))
        ray.target_position = Vector3(0, - spawn_radius, 0)
        ray.force_raycast_update()
        if ray.is_colliding():
            var spawn_position: Vector3 = ray.get_collision_point()
            var new_entity: Entity = spawn_scene.instantiate()
            new_entity.transform.origin = spawn_position
            get_tree().get_root().add_child(new_entity)
            anim.play("spawn")
    spawn_timer.start(spawn_time_multiplier * randf_range(min_spawn_time, max_spawn_time))

It basically picks a random point in a radius-4 sphere centered on... one of the bottom corners of the block instead of the center for some reason

Then, casts a ray downward with a max length equal to the radius of the sphere. If it hits something, it spawns the mob at the collision point. Otherwise, it does nothing.

Oh yeah also the condition for "max count" counts the number of entities in a radius 8 sphere. Max count appears to be set to 8.

Also min spawn time is 4 and max spawn time is 8

Most mobs have a spawn time multiplier of 1, but some differ

Leviathan, for example, has a multipler if 10

Baal, for some reason, has a multiplier of 0.1

[solar light]

evil

[blissful laurel]

tysm

[blissful laurel]

i thought it was like this but covering a vigil in a 3x3x3 cube (vigil in center) still spawned agnis out in the air for some reason

maybe there is some mechanism for redirecting spawns if the spawn location chosen is buried in solid blocks

[blissful laurel]

the top explosions are more than 4 blocks from the vigil which got me confused

so i thought the spawns gets redirected upward but a design likes this spawns stuff far out (somewhere around pink x) instead of being directed to the red area

[blissful laurel]

but this design does work and things get properly sent to red area

ah i see

my bad

the ray is cast from the random point not the vigil

it makes sense now tysm

big thanks

[pine vigil]

Glad it helped! I liked seeing your farm designs.

[serene flower]

is this true, along with your latest graph?
so 7x7x7 solid obsidian around a 2X2 cube of agni vermin blocks with water on top would create a fire farm?

do amor blocks push vermin

[blissful laurel]

no hhhzzzsss has the correct explanation

[blissful laurel]

a 9x9x9 block with 1 vigil in the center would work i think

pls test in divine mode first though quite expensive to build

[blissful laurel]

i dont know if amor block does anything special but friend shepach is often used to push vermin without damaging them

[pine vigil]

Huh... that is_block_solid_at condition wasn't there before...

func attempt_spawn() -> void :
    shape.force_shapecast_update()
    var entity_count: int = shape.get_collision_count()
    if entity_count < max_count:
        ray.global_position = (global_position + (Vector3(randf_range(-1, 1), randf_range(-1, 1), randf_range(-1, 1)).normalized() * randf_range(1, spawn_radius)))
        ray.target_position = Vector3(0, - spawn_radius, 0)
        ray.force_raycast_update()
        if ray.is_colliding():
            var spawn_position: Vector3 = ray.get_collision_point() + Vector3(0, 0.1, 0)
            if not Ref.world.is_position_loaded(spawn_position) or Ref.world.is_block_solid_at(spawn_position):
                spawn_timer.start(spawn_time_multiplier * randf_range(min_spawn_time, max_spawn_time))
                return

            var new_entity: Entity = spawn_scene.instantiate()
            new_entity.transform.origin = spawn_position
            get_tree().get_root().add_child(new_entity)
            anim.play("spawn")
    spawn_timer.start(spawn_time_multiplier * randf_range(min_spawn_time, max_spawn_time))

[pine vigil]

tragic... the upwarping design can't be done with 1-block-tall entities anymore

[blissful laurel]

aw damn

[thick geyser]

doesnt agni like destroy

water tiles

[blissful laurel]

it dosent

unless its changed the previous patch

[blissful laurel]

this is probably why

[pine vigil]

aww

[pine vigil]

Apparently entities don't upwarp through egress blocks even when they're in the solid state

I built a 3x3 pillar and put egress blocks at the top, and spawned a sheep below, and it warped into the solid egress blocks and just stood there

However, solid egress blocks are a valid spawning platform for entities and open egress blocks are not, which is expected

[empty mauve]

You can make an auto farm by using fire, just get sulfur blocks light the walls on fire and they’ll walk into it

[empty mauve]

Using the fence is a great way to kill the mobs without getting hit

[pine vigil]

oo I love this idea, thanks!

[pine vigil]

I wasn't able to get the sulfur wall to work for some reason... even though mimics were pressed against burning sulfur they themselves weren't getting burned

[empty mauve]

I tested this on mimics it’s the only one fire doesn’t work on like that (there could be others)

This method works good on fish, bubble bears, noot, fruit fem, and others

[pine vigil]

Ah I see, that's unfortunate

[thick geyser]

just throw ball shepachs

[indigo oasis]

Shepachs are uncontrollable, they always shoot together

[thick geyser]

couldn't you height stagger them to create some amount of randomization on impacts

[pine vigil]

I notice they tend to sync when you leave and come back

[thick geyser]

yeah they resync when you leave

[empty mauve]

I have a super overpowered farm I will share later when I’m done farming!

It’s also very safe

[empty mauve]

here it is

the fence allows me to hit them, but they can't hit me

and i use the clay ball hitter thingy, because its stronger then the rest

and the spunge allows me to turn on and off the ball hitter thingys

[pine vigil]

I noticed the ball shepach shoots faster though, and only does slightly less damage, so I'm a bit undecided between the two for my own farms

I love the farm design

[frigid patio]

i've been using this for mine too ^-^

[empty mauve]

The clay one will also not clog up because there is less

[pine vigil]

Ah yeah that's a good idea

[pine vigil]

Does anyone happen to have a solution for mimics spawning on top of one another? My shepachs only shoot at mimics on the floor so when one spawns in the air due to spawning on top of another mimic, it just gets stuck there

[pine vigil]

This is my simple, single-vigil design for a mimic farm

The kill chamber is a 2x2 tube that looks like this

It's in a distant corner of my qualia, so wherever I'm standing, as long I'm somewhat close to the central pillar, they walk into the corner kill chamber and die

The issue I noticed with double vigils is that, on rare occasions, they spawn a mimic at the same time, causing the second one to spawn on top of the first. It gets stuck there because the balls don't reach it, and I don't like that.

Rates are pretty good even with a single vigil due to optimal positioning though

One thing to note is that vigils are not rotationally symmetric, so the farm only has the best rates at this exact orientation

(For other orientations you'd need to position the vigil slightly differently)

do not fall into the mimic pit when trying to replace ball shepachs with clay shepachs worst mistake of my life

[frigid patio]

REAL

only reason i survived that in my cobbled together farm on my survival world is because i had like 500 health

[frigid patio]

the only block i know of that does not allow mimics spawning on it and blocks spawns inside it (i think? i need to test that) is the immaterial form of the egress block

[pine vigil]

hmm I see

I remember mimics being able to spawn inside egress blocks from a capsule, but if it blocks vigil spawns that would be great

[empty mauve]

yes

i forgot

wait

i hit the ball so it flings up in the air and hit them

[pine vigil]

I prefer it to be fully automatic

[frigid patio]

FUCKKK THEY CAN

THEY CAN SPAWN INSIDE EGRESS W VIGIL

[empty mauve]

This should fix aarr problem

[frigid patio]

aughhh

[pine vigil]

oof

[pine vigil]

It'll be nice if there's an easier way than just spamming a lot of balls from high up to fill the area, I like that I don't need to use that many ball shepachs in my current design since it reduces lag

[empty mauve]

yeeeah

i agreee1

[frigid patio]

im checking if the glitched floating fruit trees might block spawns rn

it doesnt :(

[pine vigil]

unfortunate

[pine vigil]

Btw what I mean by asymmetric is that the spawning area (or at least the area where it starts the raycast to determine the spawn position) is a sphere centered around the bottom corner of the block (the corner with the lowest x, y, and z position), so my design has an 8x8 spawning platform with that exact corner of the vigil at the center of it

And since the vigil is exactly 2 blocks up, as long as the picked position is within the middle 4 blocks of the spawning sphere, it'll spawn a mob. Only the top 2 blocks and bottom 2 blocks will fail to spawn, which is a very small percent of the spawning sphere.

[frigid patio]

one way to stop doubled mimics is to just put blocks one block above the spawning platform and upward until it clears the 4 blocks

i think ?

[pine vigil]

Yeah, that would stop it, but also completely slash the rates

[frigid patio]

i wonder if that will mess with spawninf though

yeah augh

[pine vigil]

I guess if you just had enough vigils it wouldn't be a problem

like filling the entire ceiling of the 1-block-tall area with vigils XD

[empty mauve]

Try putting your ball weapon thingy higher

[pine vigil]

I think that'll cause the balls to jump over the first row or two of the spawning platform unfortunately

[empty mauve]

That didn’t happen with me when I used they clay ball thingy (if I remember correct)

Because it’s slower

[pine vigil]

oh, do they like bounce all the way down?

[frigid patio]

i wonder if there's a decent way to launch balls from above that would cover the entire spawning area

[empty mauve]

Then. Set them further back

So

That don’t happen

Right?

I could just be dumb

[pine vigil]

The clay ball's trajectory would need to hit every single block of both the first and second layer of the spawning area

[pine vigil]

I imagine this would be extremely difficult to build in survival though because mimics would constantly spawn as you're trying to fill all the vigils

[pine vigil]

This is filling faster than I expected

I guess a single vigil was enough

[frigid patio]

um here's my design

the items in my inventory are from 10 minutes of letting the farm run

but the issue is my computer can NOT handle 6 vigils + shepachs

so i ran the farm while on the lowest settings possible and looking at the ground for those 10 minutes and even then i only got like 5-7 fps

but this design fixed a lot of the random issues i encountered

like at some points the mimics decided they knew how to fly 40 blocks in the air at random

but i think i fixed that

and the mimics clinging onto the wall closest to the player are hit down by clay balls

it runs 6 vigil spawners and i think the vigils might be far enough from the killing chamber to continue spawning once a mimic gets down there?

also the entire shepach system can be activated with a single egress line

im going to try and make & optimize a 1 or 2 vigil design though, bc i want something i can actually run without killing my computer

[pine vigil]

Woah that's a cool looking farm, what do the green and red indicate?

[pine vigil]

I've gotta increase my stack size quickly, in the time I spent updating revelation engine my farm overflowed with tungsten appendages

[frigid patio]

oh up & down ^-^

i just made it with white tile so it would be easier to see things sticking out

the little rib thing was me getting bored

[pine vigil]

ohh I see, it's an elevator

[frigid patio]

yeah one of the screenshots shows how it works

there's accelos that are invisibly cutting through the wall

so if you go up against a corner you are launched upwards

[pine vigil]

What are the blue and red things on either side of the mimic chamber, are they ball and heart shepachs?

[frigid patio]

blue and red are the mind and body cakra

[pine vigil]

.o.

[frigid patio]

so you get unified waves of balls

[pine vigil]

I see

[frigid patio]

• i have the actual shepachs only covering half of the span of the farm on either side

like, shepach and then tile and then shepach and then tile

so the mind and body cakra make it so they actually do cover the entire span

even with less shepachs

[pine vigil]

oo that's nice

[frigid patio]

bc they fill out ^-^

mostly just for lag reasons

ok well the waves of balls arent unified but they fill out more space than otherwise i think

i dont know if your whole directionality thing is totally accurate

bc i have a 1 vigil farm design in operation rn and it spawned on a tile block it shouldnt have been able to reach if it operates from the corner of the lowest coordinate position

[pine vigil]

hm? where did it spawn?

[frigid patio]

like on the opposite side

on a wall

im in the negative x, positive y, positive z quadrant

or wait i guess i was imagining it works towards the origin

[pine vigil]

oh yeah the raycast goes downward

[frigid patio]

ohhh

[pine vigil]

the origin of the raycast starts at a random point on the sphere

[frigid patio]

so its not towards the origin it's towards the negative x, negative y, negative z diagonal ? the point that's the origin of the sphere i mean

[pine vigil]

The center of the sphere is centered at the corner of the block that has the lowest x, y, and z coordinate yes

it's a sphere of radius 4

[frigid patio]

got ittt ok

i thought it was towards the origin for some reason

like world origin, (0,0,0)

[pine vigil]

and from the point it casts a ray straight down (the ray has a max length of 4)

ahhh I see

Then, from the collision point of the ray, it goes 0.1 blocks up and checks if it's inside a solid block

if yes, it cancels the spawn

otherwise it spawns the mob

[frigid patio]

tyyy

[pine vigil]

Oh yeah and if the ray hits nothing after travelling 4 blocks nothing spawns either

[frigid patio]

ok doing a test with my 1 vigil design

& im going to go get food

[frigid patio]

alright after pretty much exactly 20 minutes of my single vigil design i got 71 blue plastic, 27 clay lumps, 156 gold blocks, and 242 tungsten appendages

so it's not that great.. i'll try removing the cakra blocks and see how that works out

[frigid patio]

this would be about 213 blue plastic, 81 clay lumps, 468 gold blocks (the duped block), and 726 tungsten appendages per hour

so a lot worse than the 6 vigil design

but my computer can actually run this one so

[pine vigil]

yeah, the main limiting factor is lag

I like to keep it on in the background while I do other stuff in my pocket qualia

[frigid patio]

that makes sense ^-^

also with how well this 1 vigil design is working i might also try upgrading it to a 2 vigil design

bc i think i could handle it ?

[pine vigil]

It's also possible the mimic stacking issue is exceptionally rare and I just got really unlucky

[frigid patio]

no it happens

[pine vigil]

ah I see

[frigid patio]

i just have noticed that the balls bouncing on occasion deals with it given enough time, at least usually

[frigid patio]

somehow even with clay shepachs raining down projectiles from above in front of the viewing screen a mimic managed to clip through the 1 block glass screen... so i just made it two blocks thick

[thick geyser]

you should probably make a staging containment

a section where there's an outer container where spare entities go

if in case they breach

adding more shepachs might kill performance so you might as well add an entryway to manually kill them

(floors are still funnels

[frigid patio]

right i actually had issues w that. in the world i'm in rn it's flat and the area beneath the farm is just entirely air

i had to make the walls much higher, because at times the random momentum of the ball shepach killing chamber & window cleaning system would give the mimics a really high amount of upwards momentum + potentially horizontal momentum. which means rarely they can just fly their way out of the farm

so i put a ceiling and walls on it

anyway i left my 2 vigil design going for a little bit (1 hour 22 minutes 34 seconds) and i calculated production per minute based on that. it made about:

0.1 dirt blocks / minute
14.55 duped blocks / minute
4.52 blue plastic blocks / minute
1.91 clay lumps / minute
21.79 tungsten appendages / minute

so not very much but at least my computer can run it well

2 vigil design ^_^

[thick geyser]

i was planning to make disposal chutes but i quickly realized this tanked my frames

so it remained a botched execution

[empty mauve]

What how long did you leave you device for?

[pine vigil]

Don't remember exactly, but maybe like 2-3 hours? It's meant to always stay running the background while I'm staying in my personal qualia so I don't need the highest rates. I think I posted the first video of it not too long after I finished working on it.

[empty mauve]

Wow

Thanks

[sweet pine]

How do I get vermin blocks? I can’t find them in the divine menu

[stark moat]

You have to discover it in a normal world in order to unlock it in divine mode.

[sweet pine]

Oohhhhh I see

I was wondering why there seemed to be so many blocks missing

Thank you!

[trim hinge]

Why r u farming guard cubes?

[pine vigil]

They have very high energy, and thus tend to produce tons of output. For example, with 50 guard cubes and 1 dirt, you can get 938 temple brick blocks.

[empty mauve]

They are very dense atoms, so you can turn them into more blocks with one of them

[trim hinge]

Oh my god I learned this way to late, thank u

I always put golems in multiple vigil blocks in my personal qualia to farm temple brick blocks, after a few minutes of massacres and mountains being build I have a full inventory and litter of pickaxes and clay axes

[empty mauve]

It only needs to be one block high, I just tested

[pine vigil]

hmm I see

[empty mauve]

Why didn’t I think of this

I might share my auto cooker at the end of the day

[pine vigil]

I used egress blocks for a non-mimic farm one time

Found it

wait wrong one nvm

this one

I think the main reason we haven't been going for designs like that is just because they don't work with mimics

[empty mauve]

i think they can work kinda

make a huge pit they will fall into

[pine vigil]

wdym? At least for a design like what is shown in the video, what I believe would happen is they will spawn on the egress blocks, fail to mimic anything and turn into grass, then stay as stationary blocks since nothing woke them up

[empty mauve]

What I mean is make a pit for them to fall into assuming they take fall damage

Just tested it

They don’t take fall damage

[pine vigil]

ohhhh I see that makes sense

[pine vigil]

rip

[empty mauve]

vigil blocks can only spawn mimics one block up

[thick geyser]

(some) mobs can take fall damage?

[empty mauve]

yeee

[candid crag]

found a way to decrease mimic farm lag by making them share a killpit

multi-floor mimic farm

[frigid patio]

i did this too on my survival world's mimic farm

i dont know why i blocked you but im unblocking you. sorry

[frigid patio]

my really bad & quickly made diagram of how one vertical slice of my mimic farm design works

blocks colored gold are the blocks being duped. the blue blocks are ball shepachs. the brown block is a clay shepach. the blue and brown balls are ball and clay projectiles respectively. the dotted boxes are to show height, and the dashed boxes are glass.

the yellow is funnels

[candid crag]

me getting thrown into [PRELUDE /// SECOND
THE MEATGRINDER] bc i tried to replace a placeholder

[frigid patio]

yuppppp

were putting you in the meat grinder

[candid crag]

mfs stole 86 hp from me, cant have shit in the qualia

wait

i found a way to do maintenence on it thas less ass

slowing time

[candid crag]

floors 1 and 2 are filled in

[candid crag]

roughly my loot amount from a few minutes (i just added the gold floor and it has 10 blocks of gold and the rest are placeholder osmium)

roughly bc i had to split stacks like tungsten appendages and holyground

[candid crag]

i went from not being able to make regular mimic farms to making one with a vigils-per-layer count

albeit sometimes one vigil's spawn radius permeates into the floor above it

or, judging by a pulse i saw where the vigil didnt spawn anything seemingly, below

floor 4 complete

[indigo oasis]

🔥 🔥 🔥

You guys are genius

Can mimics duplicate special blocks like love cube?

[empty mauve]

no :(

[indigo oasis]

[nimble bramble]

easy seed farm just make some towers like this and let them fall to there deaths while you afk

have a collection site at the bottom

[nimble bramble]

also blasphemy farm it is not as good and could be improved the idea is that they kill each other

[charred sapphire]

I was planning to make a auto farm but i was not awear of this until just now. I think i should take notes and if i make a video i will credit you.

[candid crag]

fixed the 4 layer issue with my mimic farm

[blissful laurel]

very nice farm designs, love to see them

[candid crag]

how could i best depict my design incase others want it

[candid crag]

bc i wanna show it but idk how to depict it in an easy to understand way

ykw imma just make a divine qualia that shows the design directly

[candid crag]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3718391852 qualia with my mimic farm design. it has all of the blocks i substituted so you dont get shredded by shepachs or mimics in a convenient key. by "essence block is not there", i just mean it's only being used for signs like that and doesnt need to be in the farm

[candid crag]

i uploaded a divine qualia showing my design

so if ya want to see mine, ya can

[candid crag]

floor 6

so, theres
||holy ground||

guard blocks

obsidian

gold

glass

anger blocks

[blissful laurel]

huh thats farmable now

is that a different name for the ||yhvh blocks||

[candid crag]

Always has been

[candid crag]

Yes. The blocks you get in the place where you ||FIGHT GOD||

2.9.1 made them drop

[blissful laurel]

ah i see

before update rod tried it and said it only dropped ball essence (fallback)

i havent actually played after update lol

[candid crag]

Ya can get it in gallery biomes

[blissful laurel]

nice

[empty mauve]

i have a better desighn

ill share it

maybe

wheni feel like it

[empty mauve]

this block we can make high amouts with guard cubes, 1 guard = like 4 anger

[empty mauve]

same thing for obsidian, 1 guard = 3 obby

[candid crag]

I know

i use both tricks

[candid crag]

layer 7

[candid crag]

layer 8

[empty mauve]

https://youtu.be/GUWUd4ugeXw

Its the best auto farm i could make

there is no sound

forgot about that

[stable quartz]

i am curious, why anger blocks in the windows instead of glass?

its fucking genius to have egress be toggles for the shepaches my dumbass was putting and breaking blocks every time, so happy you showed a better way in your video!

[empty mauve]

It looks nicer! :D

I wantted to make a real tutoral but im too lazy

[candid crag]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3727626993 better multilayer mimic farm

i have made an agni farm. the caveat: 64 funnels

nvm

by "nvm" i mean

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3727650015 YOU DONT NEED 64 FUNNELS (you can see the outdated design here too), I JUST MADE THE HOLE 1X1 WHEN IT SHOULDVE BEEN 2X2

[mental bolt]

what is this the fuckin lucid lab?

[mental bolt]

ah bro your updated design is not working

[candid crag]

Wha

[mental bolt]

i cant get the quailia

[candid crag]

Fym cant get it

Subscribe

To the workshop thing

[mental bolt]

I DID

[candid crag]

Or search "mimibc updated" in firmament

[mental bolt]

oh

[candid crag]

Thas the qualia's name

[mental bolt]

there is not mimbc updated

[candid crag]

I may have misspelled the tpyo

[mental bolt]

nope

[candid crag]

WAIT FUUUUCK I JUST REALIZED

I didnt rename the qualia

I literally only renamed the workshop file

So there should be 2 "mimibc"s, one is the new one

[mental bolt]

gave me an error

[candid crag]

Tf

I specifically designed mimibc to not require any mods or anything 💀, how is it not loading

[mental bolt]

could be a calling error, they both have the same names

[candid crag]

Fair

Wait that doesnt make sense

Is the error in searching or loading?

[mental bolt]

loading

[candid crag]

Dafuq

...wait

Which mods do you have installed

[mental bolt]

i don't, i am a pure vanilla guy

but my skin sure ain't

[candid crag]

W h a t

[mental bolt]

w h a t

[candid crag]

How in the FUCK is it failing

I tested it in vanilla and it worked

Calling error makes no sense

Different folders

[mental bolt]

maybe reupload it?

[candid crag]

I think i remember it working for someone else or smth

Am i misremembering

[mental bolt]

ima just use the old model

[candid crag]

...sure
just don't let the balls ever fall onto a platform

Bc that plastic is a BITCH to the concept of fps

[mental bolt]

or get this, i could just cover them up

[candid crag]

fair

[mental bolt]

if it ain't broke, don't fix it

[candid crag]

that right there is one of the 2 major changes to the updated model

[mental bolt]

any reccomendations for building blocks to farm?

[candid crag]

The other is an off switch

[mental bolt]

I'd rather venture into the mimic dungeon and destroy the evil mimic cores instead

[candid crag]

Depends on what you need, but if you're doing apotheosis, GUARD BLOCKS AND HOLY GROUND DUPE EVERYTHING

[candid crag]

Well, welcome to touhou

[mental bolt]

heard of that game... OH BULLET HELL!

damn.

[candid crag]

Here's a recording from when it was 2 layers

Look at the hp falling

[mental bolt]

genuinely how do the items even make it to nthe funnel

[candid crag]

That's A DUOLAYER ONE

[candid crag]

items do not care abt balls. They pass through entities

[candid crag]

Mine has 8 layers

Had*
the qualia corrupted, i am rebuilding

The divine ones are fine

[mental bolt]

okay but what if the items drop in a place where they can't get to the funnel?

[candid crag]

My brother in christ, the killpit is 2x2 for a reason

If you stand on the corner where the killpit is, the mimics all fall in

You need to stand there for it to move them there

[mental bolt]

i shall trust you