repo_chit_chat

[urban sedge]

muting doesnt help anything with memory, it still updates everything in the background

[pure swift]

its mainly the icons, which dont take up much on their own but can add up very quickly with people, emojis, etc

[knotty jungle]

Or have multiple accounts with different groups of servers to split the work load

[urban sedge]

true

[solar needle]

level 12 next!!! 🥹

[knotty jungle]

Then account swap depending on the topic you're on

[solar needle]

praying for some cosmetics

[pure swift]

its not going to affect you that much, it wont load anything in the server until you click on it

[knotty jungle]

This is what I mean with depends what you idle on

Like if you leave your friends list open ig it's also less then leaving a 1000s people channel running idle.

[crystal idol]

okay well I think weve more than figured out the main issues anyway. The CPU and memory are just both crap and need replacing with better ones. GPU does go up high sometimes as well so I assume that would be the 3rd one to upgrade.

[urban sedge]

swaggies, a question about the game - by this point, what would be a good amount of cosmetics to have unlocked out of the 540?

[pure swift]

what do u even have

like what is your cpu and gpu

[knotty jungle]

Depends on how efficiently you make it to 16+

[pure swift]

no clue, depends how much you play
-# also, 547*

[urban sedge]

quite decently

[knotty jungle]

Then it should be average 9 per 5 levels.

[urban sedge]

so ur saying i cant count? (ok might be true)

[knotty jungle]

If you can count to 3 you're fine

[crystal idol]

I think some of them are intel core, some of the internals, what specific make I dont remember

[knotty jungle]

Then you just have to calculate how long you average on a level, and then devide that by average playtime sinse cosmetic update and you have a number.

[solar needle]

headman manor again level 12

[urban sedge]

yeah, but im asking, for like the amount of time, not amout of levels, cuz i got i think 127, not sure

[pure swift]

click on the cpu in the performance tab, itll show its name at the top right
same for gpu

[knotty jungle]

Damn, on that grind huh

I mean if you rush for cosmetics and not max money anymore, you can probably complete a level in like less then 30 minutes.

[crystal idol]

yep got it 1 sec, just copy pasting

[knotty jungle]

Maybe less?

Idk I don't speed run levels x(

[crystal idol]

or not it doesnt allow me so I have to do it by memory

intel core i3

1.90 ghz

[pure swift]

whats after the i3

[knotty jungle]

i4 /j

[crystal idol]

memory is 4gb...

[pure swift]

oh

[crystal idol]

DDR3

[pure swift]

how is your pc alive in 2026

[knotty jungle]

Easily, good care.

[crystal idol]

office upgraded version

[fallow lintel]

holy shitamoly

[knotty jungle]

We have those kinda machines in our youth group for lan parties they can do some stuff if cared for well xD

[crystal idol]

ud be surprised but this PC can run CSGO 2 pretty well after an hour of getting used to it lol

[knotty jungle]

Gotta heat that guy up

Still oiling gears

[crystal idol]

yeah basically throwing the internals into overdrive to do it

[urban sedge]

i literally have to collect all small items + kill all enemies multiple times like 80% of the levels, because looms proffesionally get stuck behind everything, destroying everything

[pure swift]

i mean tbf, bad pcs keep the energy costs low

[crystal idol]

my loom tends to do its own thing and f's off bothering to even go after me.

[urban sedge]

mine doesnt target me, mine targets my valuables, so i cant finish the levels

[knotty jungle]

If I'm going off of basic numbers, 30 minutes per level, 60% chance. 3/5, over 5 levels that averages on 9 cosmetics. 2h30m for 9 cosmetics. 127/9=14.111=15. 15*2.5=37.5

37.5 hours on average luck to get to 127.

[crystal idol]

depends on the old PC really. The one I had before this PC was very easy to hack into so its one im completely unable to access. I still have a PC from 2004

[ember mesa]

Oh god. That's like stage 4

[crystal idol]

honestly, im my own worse enemy, I dont get scared of the monsters but I still startle too easily and violently that I end up breaking them

[knotty jungle]

Lets say you full clear stages, it takes like an hour, double that time.

[crystal idol]

stage 4 what?

[knotty jungle]

Stage 4 ram

[ember mesa]

^

[knotty jungle]

Like for medical ig

[crystal idol]

that a good thing?

[fallow lintel]

"I'm sorry sir, he has....DDR3. It's terminal."

[knotty jungle]

Your pc suffers from stage 4 ram deficiency

[crystal idol]

oh well, still does its job and despite suffering at times, has still been very reliable.

[fallow lintel]

if it works fine for your purposes, i approve

i could not live with 4gb of ram lol

[knotty jungle]

I mean, I played on a 2GB duo core till late 2015

Ran minecraft fine

Maybe even longer then that 2018 idk anymore I'm old

[crystal idol]

to me, if it can run CSGO 2 after an hour of pain just fine, technically its a beast of its own.

[solar needle]

rare cozzy box

[daring fable]

Mambo

[crystal idol]

Im not on PC too often and when I am, I play very few games on here so thats likely why. Have played some games at a steady 60fps before though. Used to dealing with 12 to 20fps so stuttering feels natural to me these days. Dont get bothered too much about that stuff.

[knotty jungle]

You can until you upgrade. xD

[crystal idol]

I mean, I have also once played apex legends on a box TV using AV and those coloured wires before so ive also dealt with like 480p pixels for gaming.

[pure swift]

i cant with what i generally do lol

[crystal idol]

480 or 720p I dont remember

[pure swift]

if i opened VS it would probably explode

[crystal idol]

Ive never truely had the need to upgrade because im rarely pushing the PC to its limits.

[knotty jungle]

Yea, but once you upgrade and your default becomes higher going back is almost impossible

[crystal idol]

Oh I can go back easily. Used to be cracked on box TV's for gaming. I am weirdly insane the lower quality I go.

[knotty jungle]

Oh I get it... I had to "try" to work on a 4GB notebook last week, and just opening GoDot gave me errors in the console for lack of hardware, lmao

[crystal idol]

higher quality and smoother movement and stuff like that feels weird to me

[tight cairn]

is there any secret rooms in shop now?

[knotty jungle]

yes

Every shop layout has a secret room

[tight cairn]

what about the one with the garage

[tiny sail]

can someone help me with my emperium mod?

[crystal idol]

wheres the one with that hair barbers looking shop extension?

[tight cairn]

omg i found the garage one

[fallow lintel]

the garage is the "secret" room
not all of em are as obvious

[crystal idol]

that manager room is another

[tight cairn]

no like u can open the car inside of the garage

[crystal idol]

found that out the hard way

[knotty jungle]

I'm in me shop's car

[fallow lintel]

ask the modding dc #1414943841106006097 message

[tight cairn]

whats the hard way

[tight cairn]

not updated for newest version

wait for creator to update it

[tiny sail]

i was trying to spawn cosmetics but it wouldnt work, my friends can spawn em tho

[knotty jungle]

Or check their github and do it for them! /half-jk

[crystal idol]

not knowing about it for so long when youve had that version of the shop many times, tryna look around the garage for the granades and not finding them cause they spawn in the back of the vehicle, forgetting you can open vehicle doors as well.

[tight cairn]

?? they are probably using another mod cus imperium isnt updated as far as i know

[urban sedge]

wait no, apologies, wrong mod

[knotty jungle]

Do you even really have to mod to unlock all cosmetics, can't you just save manip?

[tight cairn]

no imperium does give godmode and inf upgrades

[tiny sail]

what?

[pure swift]

yes it is

[tight cairn]

oh damn

[knotty jungle]

Change your save file to have it all unlocked

[tight cairn]

i guess i didnt see it then

[tiny sail]

couldnt find anything there

[pure swift]

its easier to mod

thing for unlocking all cosmetics is one line of code that exists in the vanilla game lol

[tiny sail]

i want the thrill of gambling for them tho

[knotty jungle]

Really? It just took me like 5 seconds to do it with online save editor...

Unless it won't load and sync with cloud or overwrite or not work as simple as drag drop savefile...

[pure swift]

wouldnt that require inputting all numbers from 0 to 546 into the list

[knotty jungle]

I can just copy paste a list of numbers

[pure swift]

from where

[knotty jungle]

This is like the perfect job for an LLM

takes a few seconds for it to type it out

[tiny sail]

out of ideas then ima give up

[knotty jungle]

Oh yea, same btw, I am just theorizing what'd be "easier" if you want to unlock them all. And I do get that for most people, drag and drop a mod that I've done before, is easier then coming up with a new idea of editing a save file with an online editor and knowing where to put stuff.

[pure swift]

i still think modding is easier and faster

i could boot up unity explorer and type MetaManager.instance.CosmeticUnlockAll() and bam done in probably a minute tops

[knotty jungle]

Took Deepseek about half a minute but it typed it out for me xD I am not gonna paste it here tho. I did have to ask this dumby twice tho, cause the first time it went to 100 and then said "And so forth until 546", the hell man...

But yea, there's a bigger chance someone knows how to drop a mod and get it then all what I just said even if in theory it's just as easy

[solar needle]

i'll come back to my repo run later but level 13 next where i died before with the ultra rare

[hollow herald]

ts is so broken

[tiny sail]

i guess i will tp myself to high levels and farm them that way

[hollow herald]

balloon boy put balloons in front of a door and i popped it and died

[knotty jungle]

Damn, got beat up by a child.

[pure swift]

home alone ahh trap

[knotty jungle]

I purposely pop this kid's balloons cause it's his ragebait.

[rocky rapids]

what the hell

[fathom steppe]

ıd pop all of his balloons and kill him

[knotty jungle]

Ragebait that kid and beat him up for his lunch money

[rocky rapids]

oooh fuck theyre giving hard buff to trudge

[fathom steppe]

wait really what does hee get?

[cinder depot]

yo chat how do u activate the killer camera in the shop

[rocky rapids]

read beta annkuncements

[rocky rapids]

theres a button with an eye of it close to the guy

[hollow herald]

man fuck this game the duck never leaves me alone

[amber heath]

guys how reliable are defibros in solo? are they reliable enough to be able to rely on not having to save scum? (alt f4)

[cinder depot]

OHHHHH thanks

[hollow herald]

i lifted something up and he jumps into it and gets mad at me

[rocky rapids]

break eye contact with it

[hollow herald]

i have never look at it

directly at least

[rocky rapids]

it still spots you
hide behind walls

[solar needle]

Cosmetic Boxes - Slightly increased the general spawn chance for boxes, as well as the chance for Ultra Rare boxes.

AS WELL AS ULTRA RARE??? HELL YEAH

[green jolt]

yay

can't wait for it

I'm not playing the beta tbh

[rocky rapids]

okay thank god

[green jolt]

I'll just wait

[solar needle]

yeah same

[rocky rapids]

i lowk dont even know how to change to beta so i just wait for the version itself to come out

[solar needle]

I like really rare cosmetics but with how many cosmetics ultra rare has I feel it should be a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle less rare

for completionists

[native void]

I didn't get one of them till lvl 10 😭

[torn magnet]

guys so i was on lvl 26 and we only got common and uncommon and only 1 crate spawned and there was supposed to be a high chance for 3 cosmetic crates to spawn

[hollow herald]

since when could cleanup crew spot you when fully hidden

[river trench]

Hello guys

[green jolt]

we need to wait for Swaggies' chart now

[native void]

Hello!

[green jolt]

unlucky man, that's it

[solar needle]

they should start appearing after that atleast I will admit but yeah after that they shouldn't be as rare

[rocky rapids]

now we have to wait for swaggies to rewrite that....yeah

[river trench]

I have some issue with game my all cosmetics all game lvl loads its wasted for nothing

[native void]

It happened to me once in museum

[torn magnet]

any idea what next upd wil be) any guesses?

[river trench]

Someone know for what?

[torn magnet]

it spots you if you look at it

[green jolt]

the patch? like tomorrow or in two days probably

[native void]

Yea the highest i got is the blue one, maybe it's cause of single player

[green jolt]

it doesn't change anything

[solar needle]

singleplayer isn't the problem the chance is lol

[green jolt]

the chances are the same

[native void]

I was afk under a box like thing heh

[native void]

Oh i see

[river trench]

Guyss i need a helppp

[native void]

Mhm!✨

[torn magnet]

like update update) like the cosmetic upd) cuz the game feels good but needs more monsters and maps as it feels kinda empty and needs to get harder cuz when you get to lvl 20 there is nothing else that happens

[green jolt]

I suspect if it's "slightly" then it's gonna start at 25% but maybe it's gonna start at 33% and end at 66%

[green jolt]

we don't know

[solar needle]

i meant uhhh luck

[green jolt]

kinda sad that they probably won't do anything about the Tax Tokens giving you money but whatever 😔

well at least an option to turn it off for a session would be great

[torn magnet]

guys go repo forums and vote witch mob you want to see make its way to repo) Monster Vote

[native void]

Oh,yea i got only one cosmetic per level till 10

[urban sedge]

id say quite lucky

[pale flame]

is repo worth buying

[green jolt]

you're asking in the R.E.P.O. server, what answer do you expect other than "yes" lol

[fierce wyvern]

I swear just after update with boxes it’s was so easy to find them after like 1-2 days they dropped new update and for 6h of playing we found only one green box tf

[urban sedge]

why not test it urself? theres always a chance to refund within 2hours

[urban sedge]

that means, ur looking very awfully for them

[green jolt]

pure luck, the chances didn't change in any of the patches

[fierce wyvern]

U have 2h to try

[cinder depot]

i found 2 ultra rare cosmetic boxes today

[pale flame]

like is there a way i can try it for some hrs then if i dont like it i get a refund?

[cinder depot]

yes

[green jolt]

for less than 2 hours

[native void]

In steam there is a option btw

[cinder depot]

if u play it more than 2 hours or have it more than 14 days u cant refund it

[fierce wyvern]

There is no way the only one place where we haven’t checked it’s our own ah

[urban sedge]

actually they did im pretty sure

[pale flame]

okay then thats more than enough ill buy it at the end its 5 dollars only i wont even refund if i didnt like

[green jolt]

only the "bad luck" right

otherwise no

[urban sedge]

they made the 20% into 25%.. or im tweaking
yeah that one

[green jolt]

only that

so if anything they should be getting more

[fierce wyvern]

Then this game just hate us ig lmfao

[urban sedge]

yeah.. thats the point of searching, they cant search properly

[fierce wyvern]

Sorry nerd

[urban sedge]

thats rude

[green jolt]

what if the devs messed up and if it reaches more than 100% it loops from 0%

[urban sedge]

i would of gotten none so often, which doesnt happen

[pale flame]

one last question

is modding the game allowed

[hollow herald]

fuckass game

[green jolt]

yes

[vast void]

can 2 recharge drones infinitely recharge eachother

[pale flame]

ill see what i can make

[urban sedge]

yes, just dont be a numnut, and ruin other people games

[green jolt]

you are complaining so often I feel like you're making some crucial mistake

[pure swift]

iirc recharge drones dont attach to other recharge drones

[normal bone]

it would be so cool if there was a large tool for cutting valuables in pieces for ease of transport, making a lot of noise in the process

[hollow herald]

crucial mistake is pretty much all i do bro

[pale flame]

am not that sad that id create a cheat its just more like cosmetics etc...

[normal bone]

maybe a slight reduction in value as well

[green jolt]

fair lol

[urban sedge]

attach a recharge drone to a recharge orb

[vast void]

fuq

[vast void]

actually can someone explain me the orbs?

[pure swift]

#beta_content message

[vast void]

are they like drones but in a different coat of paint

[green jolt]

fun fact: they wanted to add more orbs in the past but they got scrapped so maybe a recharbe orb was a thing

[urban sedge]

orbs, make an orb area, around, which has the effect

[vast void]

ohh

[urban sedge]

they did add the code for them, they never added them tho, pretty sure i can still spawn them in

also a magnet orb, which was cool

[pure swift]

yeah they still exist in the files

[urban sedge]

an orb, which had a small orb area, but pulled everything to it, and i dont think gravity affected the items

[urban sedge]

yeah, so theyre still spawnable

[green jolt]

yeah ik

also a heal orb or a drone or something like that

[urban sedge]

i wish magnet orb was added, its actually cool

[urban sedge]

both

[green jolt]

Void Staff kinda but less chaotic

[urban sedge]

and u can control where it goes

and infinite effect

[pure bobcat]

Does anyone know what the arachnophobia mode do?

[urban sedge]

advancement "unexpected explosion" - gift your friend, an enemy orb in the face, after lvl20

[hollow herald]

this game lowk just wants to set me up

every door got a mf monster behind it

[urban sedge]

ah yes.... ERECTophobia

[pure bobcat]

God dammit

[urban sedge]

arachnophobia is somewhere in the settings

[pure bobcat]

Ye what does do?

[knotty jungle]

It disables the spider pot effect

[urban sedge]

removes the legs for tick, and removes the spiders from spider pot

[knotty jungle]

Oh tick legs tru

It should just make the tick into a vacuum cleaner, lol

[vast void]

when you get yourself a shotgun this will stop being annoying, you'll just have sheer joy mauling the pests who dare touch you

[knotty jungle]

Duster actually that has wheels

[urban sedge]

i wanted to make a mod, to replace tick, with a crab model, but i couldnt figure out, how to withdraw the original tick model, so i know aproximitely the size and ect

[hollow herald]

problem is level 1 is almost impossible cuz i'm ass

[vast void]

i think it should do something about animal ngl, it's very spider-like

[urban sedge]

its a human blob, with 6 human arms as legs

that aint an arachnid

[vast void]

just hold crouch 90% of the time and you're golden

[normal bone]

arachnophobia doesnt limit itself to arachnids

[hollow herald]

takes forever

[vast void]

yes but it does look like a spider

[urban sedge]

i didnt say it limits to that, its just mostly for arachnids

[vast void]

sprint when you know that the tier 3 despawned

[hollow herald]

tier 3?

[normal bone]

you kinda did though. you chucked the animal under the header of "only has 6 legs and isnt an arachnid therefore arachnophobia doesnt apply"

[vast void]

the main threat yk

[knotty jungle]

The big baddy

[hollow herald]

idk when it despawns

[knotty jungle]

Watch it till it does

Or assume it did and hope for the best. :D

[vast void]

usually they despawn when they waddle far away

[urban sedge]

dont twist my fucking words, i didnt say it doesnt apply, i said its not an arachnid

[green jolt]

monsters have assigned tiers and tier 3 are the biggest ones

[vast void]

and if the tier 3 is robe than just ignore it, same for cleanup crew.

[knotty jungle]

But robe loves hugs

:(

[nimble spire]

they say

[vast void]

headman, huntsman, robe, cleanup crew, loom (dosent spawn of floor 1)

who am I missing

[knotty jungle]

Trudge

[vast void]

hm

oh yeah

[urban sedge]

2 speed, and a slide, and u can run past her, she will hug herself with a yell

[green jolt]

Headman, Robe, Huntsman, Trudge, Loom, Cleanup Crew, Clown, Reaper

[urban sedge]

u can do it without all that, but thats way easier

[hollow herald]

headman definitely spawns level 1

[knotty jungle]

They said it after loom specifically

[vast void]

I know. I said loom dosent spawn level 1

[hollow herald]

oh right

[vast void]

yes, but I originally said that it looks VERY SPIDER LIKE, not that it is an arachnid

[fallow lintel]

the robe

[urban sedge]

and i did not argue with that, i only specified it a bit more

[torn oar]

is it normal that headman respawns instantly on a lvl 4 when it despawns when all the extractions are already delivered?

[nimble spire]

Ye

[vast void]

loom spawns after (i think) level 3, there's really no way to deal with her if you don't have a weapon

[nimble spire]

if all extracts are completed its 1s respawn

[knotty jungle]

Just walk away till she gets bored

[nimble spire]

the w key

[vast void]

oh right I forgot they nerfed her

[normal bone]

youre not supposed to walk into her idiot!

[fallow lintel]

shhhhh don't let them know the secret tech!

[nimble spire]

Sprint

[knotty jungle]

She's honestly one of the most chill enemies to deal with because of that.

[vast void]

kiss the horrible horrifying woman

[torn oar]

._. well that sucked as heck because i lost that run because the path for going to the truck were 2 whole halls with no hiding spots

[knotty jungle]

Not easiest perse, but just walk away and wait for her to leave x)

[obsidian hazel]

Huh? I must swear my first play ever was in Swiftbroom Academy Level 1 with a friend and one of her friend and Huntsman spawned who eliminated us all right away ish...

Wasn't it more Loom only who doesn't spawn the first 3(?) levels?
The rest to my feeling will spawn at Level 1? 🤔

[torn oar]

and i heard it to despawn like 4 times before it got to see me and explode me

[urban sedge]

yes there is, and its very likely to get the item u need, before loom can start to spawn

[green jolt]

what the hell are you talking about, I just listed all of the tier 3s

[obsidian hazel]

Ahh

[urban sedge]

i feel like you forgot something, but it seems so correct

[obsidian hazel]

But you replied to a post that said that "said Tier 3 that got listed don't spawn on level 1... 🤔

[urban sedge]

he implied it to the last one, aka loom

[green jolt]

no, check the wiki

[urban sedge]

i said i feel, and seems correct
i didnt say ur wrong

[vast void]

time to hop back on my save

[green jolt]

no

[green jolt]

so I just said that your feelings are wrong wth do you mean

[urban sedge]

i never said my feelings were right

[vast void]

chat should I hunt for the baseball bat or the sledge

[green jolt]

so I just assured you that they weren't

[obsidian hazel]

Ahh so that "doesn't spawn on Level 1" was only applying to the last mentioned Loom and not the entire list of tier 3 there. Got it. xD

That's what happen when I spawn into here without context 💀

[nimble spire]

sledge is better overall but bat isnt that far behind

[vast void]

I'll just probably get whichever spawns first

[urban sedge]

i like playing baseball with the bat, but otherwise, i see it quite useless

[obsidian hazel]

Bat is just underrated (even though I don't really use either anyways). But both are still great weapons xD

[vast void]

the benefit of the bat is the fact that you become scout tf2

[urban sedge]

it is indeed underrated - and ill keep it like that

[green jolt]

I think that every item can provide some value and some of them are very underrated

[nimble spire]

pan

[vast void]

either way I have tranq so any melee weapon is decent

[urban sedge]

pan is decent, u can smack the baby

[green jolt]

it can be useful, the stun on small monsters allows you to use one energy to kill them with pits

[nimble spire]

tranq overrated af

[urban sedge]

i will not agree, many dont know how good it is

[nimble spire]

tranq is almost bad once you have overcharge

[obsidian hazel]

Yea, especially when you play co-op, every weapon can be very nice. Especially if you have a full 6 members lobby where everyone would to be fair.... want to hold on a weapon xD

[vast void]

you can still maul everything if you have a melee

[nimble spire]

And once pits stop instakilling enemies i genuinely consider it a liability

[normal bone]

you can use it to escape safely as well

[nimble spire]

Bolt/prodzap

[nimble spire]

i mean you can do this without tranq too

[normal bone]

wouldnt consider that safer than tranq

[urban sedge]

actually no, even with overcharge, you can kill every monster, which goes up to 250hp

• cleanupcrew (310hp i think)
• elsa (600hp)
• trudge (500hp)
• loom (500hp)

[nimble spire]

if you encounter 2 or more enemies at once whats the plan

[green jolt]

yes

[urban sedge]

if they arent t3 enemies, kill them

[nimble spire]

The short stun deagros. deagro and then crouching will save you from 99% of situations

[obsidian hazel]

Strategically retreat is also an option. 🤷‍♂️

[nimble spire]

then you run the risk of overcharge not letting you kill

[normal bone]

youd have to be doing a looot of stunning on the later levels

[obsidian hazel]

Better than stay in room which will still and only attract other monsters until you got to the point of being overwhelmed and get killed off xD

[urban sedge]

t1 and t2 enemies give too little overcharge, you can kill up to 3-4 t2 enemies, and all t1 enemies easily

[nimble spire]

tranq suffers because 18s of stun is great.... but stun is not that great late game

[fallow lintel]

you can "stun" when over the strength thresholds anyways

boltzap is good for emergencies

[knotty jungle]

I mean, you do during escape.

No reason to kill with insta respawn timers

[normal bone]

das why i prefer tranq

[vast void]

I think it's only fair if the players would stop instadying to pits at some point, like the monsters

[nimble spire]

you can not kill enemies with tranq alone without a pit if you have overcharge. and with overcharge you are not killing two enemys at once

[urban sedge]

ballsTimmony - tranq is cheap, and it very well repays itself till it gets useless

[knotty jungle]

Tranq, bat, that purple blaster all amazing escape weapons

[green jolt]

I thought so too at first but I think pits instakilling you is fair

[nimble spire]

gun is same price :D

[fallow lintel]

before overcharge becomes a thing

[knotty jungle]

When is that? it's never been useless for me.

[nimble spire]

Overcharge

[vast void]

pulse blaster is cinema in general

[vast void]

It isnt

[urban sedge]

yeah, and u do 80 damage with that, but with tranq 250

[knotty jungle]

Then it's still handy when 4 enemies want to kill you to stun 2 and have a easy time tho

[nimble spire]

tranq does not do 250 wtf lmfao

[urban sedge]

around level 15+

[nimble spire]

Boltzap

[knotty jungle]

It becomes super usefull during escape too

With 4 tier 3s

[nimble spire]

if all you want is to escape a boltzap is genuinely overpowered in its niche

[green jolt]

like the rolling tech I think

[urban sedge]

i can easily show u how it does 500

[fallow lintel]

overcharge:

[nimble spire]

Overcharge lets you do it like 3 times

and then you wait a shit long time

[knotty jungle]

you are able to drag and drop like 1 enemy in a hole if you're fast enough with overcharge.

[urban sedge]

overcharge has 12 sections of charge, and if u do it correct, u can kill an enemy in 9 or less

[knotty jungle]

(Assuming they're fenced holes in mcj)

[nimble spire]

besides you still have to commit to it. you suffer so insanely hard if you encounter 2 t3s at once

[green jolt]

which is fine because different weapons are good in different levels
if someone can make Tranq work in later levels then they are good at the game ig
I think that Tranq is a bit overrated, I can agree

[urban sedge]

depends... which t3's
like for example - clown is abolutely no threat

[nimble spire]

any weapon that actually does damage instantly will serve you FAR better

[remote topaz]

Hey balls

[urban sedge]

i wouldnt find it "way better" if youre losing money in the ammo

[green jolt]

it applies to Tranq too though wdym

[nimble spire]

you encounter two enemys at once and have to stun both, kill one, then restun the second enemy because you had to focus the first enemy

and then if you have to stun more things it just gets exponentially worse

tranq is the 1v1 king. No doubt. But its not the op generalist i hear it as sometimes

[green jolt]

Inflatable Hammer the best weapon cause it doesn't lose any money, trust

[remote topaz]

What about a single human grenade?

[hollow herald]

what's better than one duck ahh #repo_content

[urban sedge]

look.... what enemies we talking about?

• robe
• clown
  stun the robe, and jump over clown hits, while punching robe around - easy W
• anything
• clown
  still easy
• anything but clown
• anything but clown
  now it gets interesting

[green jolt]

what about it

[remote topaz]

Best weapon

[green jolt]

interesting take

[urban sedge]

good placement + other stuff can deal up to 400dmg + falldamage hitting walls and ground

[green jolt]

but if it works then it works for you

[fallow lintel]

best weapon is duck bucket

[urban sedge]

agreed

[fallow lintel]

other stuff can deal up to 400dmg
wat

[green jolt]

they said Human Grenade, not Duct Tape Grenade

[urban sedge]

100 on explosion, then throws out 3 more grenades, doing 100 each, thats 400

[fallow lintel]

oh

[remote topaz]

I personally use only zero gravity orb for damage

[urban sedge]

oh shit, sorry ur right

[fallow lintel]

good luck getting all 3 extra grenades to hit lmao

[remote topaz]

My other two inventory slots are 25 health packs because their cheaper

[green jolt]

btw I think I once accidentally bought multiple Human Grenades because a Duct Tape one exploded while buying

[urban sedge]

get him into a decently small area, like a room in manor, and its easy - stand in the longest point of the room, catch the one flying away, if any fly away, and throw it back

[fallow lintel]

not risky in the slightest

[urban sedge]

its actually not, its quite easy

very often i use it to kill a trudge, when stun grenade doesnt spawn

[fallow lintel]

[remote topaz]

Why do we still listen to kinkybinky's takes?

[green jolt]

well Trudge yeah but anything else will probably fry you

[fallow lintel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[green jolt]

his takes aren't *that * bad

[urban sedge]

because theyre true?

[urban sedge]

HEY...
ok i got nothing else

[fallow lintel]

"if the stars align and everything goes right, duct tape grenade will all hit the enemy you're targeting 100% of the time"

[green jolt]

I believe anyone can make anything work so there are almost no bad takes tbh

[vast void]

I wish the game had steam achievements

[fierce crow]

anyone else having issues with joining lobbies? i've joined like 6 different ones and every time the host starts it, it disconnects everyone

[fallow lintel]

they have plans

[urban sedge]

at worst, unless ur doing it in a very wide, open room, only 1 grenade flies away, and u just gotta catch it
its not that hard

[green jolt]

unless you're calling Indestructable Drone useless, then any of your other takes are not valid

[vast void]

cinema, but idk if they will work because of how often people hack the shit out of the game with mods

[fallow lintel]

there will be mods, but just like....don't use em

[green jolt]

(there was someone like that here and they also said that tumbling as a mechanic is bad)

[green jolt]

in the future probably, I also love achievements

[urban sedge]

not to be offensive, but i very much did not like that guy\

[green jolt]

same

[vast void]

yeah. I just hope they don't make a system that detects mods and prevents you from getting achievements, since I literally need a client sided optimization mod for the game to not maul my laptop

[fallow lintel]

i highly doubt that'll be a thing

cuz people just make mods to enable achievements when games do that anyways lol

[vast void]

true ig

[green jolt]

I don't think the devs care about mods whatsoever

[fallow lintel]

they love em

[green jolt]

like they won't limit them

in any matter

[fallow lintel]

ye

[remote topaz]

Save scumming and leaving to reroll the shop/map is high skill and should be bragged about.

[fallow lintel]

unless it maliciously affects other people's progress, like if there was ever a mod that forces other people to unlock all cosmetics or something
I can see semiwork stepping in in that case

[vast void]

I mean I personally would be pretty sad if I put alot of effort into making achievements just for some chmucks to get mods to insta get them all

[remote topaz]

Pretty sure theres one that can

[green jolt]

[urban sedge]

AN AMAZING IDEA SUGGESTION:
you know how theres tumble wings, right?
HOW ABOUT --

• Tumble Rock
  there are benefits and the oposite of benefits whatever that might be
  BAD:
• you fall way faster
• you take more falldamage
  GOOD:
• you dont accidently tumble into holes
• if you fall on an enemy, u deal way more damage
  (i said ON enemy, not AT enemy, so only from the top)

[green jolt]

why does it matter though? if they lie about legit getting achievements then yes, it'd be annoying, but otherwise whatever

[vast void]

I rerolled my first shop until I got pulse blaster, maul me

[remote topaz]

Amazing suggestion:
Remove jumping and running.

[urban sedge]

now thats COUCH POTATO UPGRADE

[vast void]

amazing suggestion: extract the W key from every repo player's keyboard and sell them to taxman

[urban sedge]

true true, make it be worth like 2.5k if its a good w key

[fallow lintel]

noooo but how are they gonna avoid loom 😔

[urban sedge]

believe it or no, but with the S KEY

[green jolt]

that's the neat part, you don't

[fallow lintel]

WHAT

preposterous

[urban sedge]

i know

such ball knowledge

[vast void]

does reaper just have very little hp or is the pulse blaster fucking busted

[green jolt]

at least you can sprint in any direction in R.E.P.O. unlike in Minecraft for example

[vast void]

I always kill reaper in like 4 shots with it

i love the pulse blaster

[green jolt]

4 shots isn't that busted

I feel like

[urban sedge]

250hp, and u mean the yellow ray one right?
it deals 40 per hit i think, and hits often, can deal up to 520 i think, not sure

[fallow lintel]

pulse pistol my beloved

[vast void]

the pink one

[green jolt]

Pulse Pistol, so Shockwave Grenade as a pistol

[urban sedge]

oh, the pink one doesnt do much, its the falldamage

[vast void]

I know it's called pulse pistol but the pulse blaster has more aura

[fallow lintel]

truuuue

[vast void]

so I'm calling it that

[urban sedge]

he says pulse, and he says blaster :/

• pulse pistol
• photon blaster
  can get confusing

[green jolt]

yeah

Photon Pistol

[urban sedge]

imagine that being an actual thing

[vast void]

pulse pistol is my second favourite weapon

[green jolt]

my favorite is of course Inflatable Hammer

[urban sedge]

pulse pistol is fun, but compared to other items, there are better options

[vast void]

sadly the shotgun just gives me more dopamine, I feel like doomguy with it

[vast void]

it's better than the glock tho

[knotty jungle]

Tell that to the run we have on level 27 and still didn't see the shotgun once.

[urban sedge]

u mean normal pistol?

[vast void]

yuh

[knotty jungle]

Yea, it's better.

It easily deals 3 ticks of fall damage

[vast void]

also the fact that the pulse pistol does a little explosion with it's shot makes it better

[urban sedge]

bro normal pistol actually overrated...

[vast void]

because you can hit enemies even if you miss

[knotty jungle]

Gun is nice to have but mid af.

[vast void]

it's not bad but the other weapons are better

[knotty jungle]

Specially once you're at 13 str, pulling enemies over is better then the gun a lot of times.

[urban sedge]

yeah, and people see it as insanely good, its overrated - overrated doesnt mean its bad, it means that people see it better than it actually is

[green jolt]

Gun allows you to get guaranteed kills on any monster, tier 1, 2 or 3 efficiently, it's just a bit more risky on bigger monsters sometimes

[knotty jungle]

I know it is because when I was in earlier stages a lot I also thought that. So it's naturally going to be overrated imo.

It really shows getting past level 16 isn't as normal as I thought it was x)

[vast void]

I mean so does pulse pistol, yet I find tier 3s EASIER to kill with pulse

[urban sedge]

yeah, same does tranq, for cheaper, and more efficience
and if ur planning on the long game, just get a shotgun/sledgehammer nor gun, nor tranq

[vast void]

shotgun makes me feel like a genuine god

[urban sedge]

basically 1shot everything

[knotty jungle]

It's just not really worth it a lot of time, it takes like 7 shots to kill a chunky boy, that's a lot of energy.

[echo quail]

How do i get the link to let people join?

[vast void]

pulse also has the benefit of being piss cheap

just like tranq

[urban sedge]

press invite, and then there should be a link option im pretty sure

[knotty jungle]

Half the mag to kill an enemy that drops like 7K, a crystal is 20-24k. That's like 6-12k for one kill.

[urban sedge]

yes, but it cant destroy fat enemies easily

used a lot of ammo

[knotty jungle]

It can if used right in combination with grabbing and throwing

2 shots can kill trudge

[echo quail]

It automatically gives me choose a friend to invite

[vast void]

I bully everyone with it

except elsa I just don't kill her

[fallow lintel]

via steam: when in a waiting lobby, go to your profile, right click the "join game" button, copy the link
via discord: see the bottom of #repo_lfg_faq

[vast void]

under any circumstances

[knotty jungle]

You drag and drop the enemy 2-3 times, shoot it with pulse, watch it tumble around like 2-3 times, recharge, repeat.

[green jolt]

yes, but I don't think the Gun is supposed to be used alone, that's why the Sledge Gun combo is popular and also it's great against 250 hp tier 3s alone

anyways I shouldn't argue about this

[vast void]

the duck too, but I know that the duck is a demon in sheep's fur so eventually I might murder it

[knotty jungle]

It's a great finisher weapon, I agree x) The enemy is weak, and it's getting up instead of working with me, I glock it. LOL

[echo quail]

Think i found it

[green jolt]

yes

[halcyon birch]

if it moves, it has to die.

[urban sedge]

ok thats hard for me to believe...
15 for the shot, 2 shots, so 30
if ur lucky, 4-5 wall/ground hits, lets take 5, thats 125
and again 125 for the second shot, thats together 280 for the shots, and u 2 ground slams, if ur very very lucky,
2 ground slams each time (4) 100 damage,
thats 380 damage, dont see a way it kills a trudge

[knotty jungle]

It's also really fun to John Wick the duck.

[vast void]

there should be a very expensive inventory upgrade that gives the player +1 inventory slot

[vast void]

especially since the 4 key isn't bound to anything

[urban sedge]

if so, i think u should be able to use it just once, so max is 4, and no more

[fallow lintel]

cart:

[vast void]

never

[knotty jungle]

You can use your max overcharge grabs before and in between the shots

You use the enemy bouncing around as time to recharge.

[vast void]

yes.

that's what I intended

[urban sedge]

440k to unlock

[vast void]

using it more than once would be impossible because the keys after 4 are taken by expressions

[halcyon birch]

yeah well I can let it slide if it's elsa
but NOT otherwise

[vast void]

ok that might be overkill

[vast void]

approved

[urban sedge]

possible to unlock only from level 1 to 4, price 440k

[vast void]

440k is too much

[halcyon birch]

my left handed self would never get that

[green jolt]

yes but they could make items completely inactive inside of it or something, you can't take the Rubber Duck or Prodzap for example

[urban sedge]

not really :/ only 3-4 levels

[misty canyon]

how much did the % of the boxes change from the beta

[knotty jungle]

They should let me attach Prodzaps around my cart.

[urban sedge]

none

[green jolt]

#beta_content message

[green jolt]

what?

[urban sedge]

oh wait they changed?

[vast void]

I think we as a community should agree to shorten headman manor to headmanor and the duck bucket to ducket

[urban sedge]

the fuck??

[halcyon birch]

me when I try to get that but a wall is in my way

[fallow lintel]

hanor

[half pilot]

truth nuke

[vast void]

nah that makes it loose the pun

[vast void]

and yes, I came up with theese myself

[urban sedge]

idk about head manor, but ducket, yes

[fallow lintel]

such creativity

[vast void]

yeah ducket is more catchy

[knotty jungle]

That's crazy
65% spawn - 🟩37.15% 🟦35.45% 🟪19.37% 🟨 8.02%

[nimble spire]

had to go so late response

im not saying the enemies are a threat. Im saying you can only focus one enemy at a time. if your solution is to stun one and not the other then youd be better off with an actual weapon. Theres also enemies that would be legitimate threats if you try to ignore them while focusing another. which is just huge unnecessary risk. trudge clean up crew huntsman would need to be focused and if your solution is get two of them then youd likely need to stun both.

[knotty jungle]

It already felt really good at current rates.

[nimble spire]

why did it not ping

[fallow lintel]

ping fail

[green jolt]

mhm

[nimble spire]

replied to this

[vast void]

I think the ducket should have more than 2 uses

[green jolt]

it does

[urban sedge]

why did noone inform me about the beta bruh.... thats in beta eh?

[knotty jungle]

0.4.4

[fallow lintel]

give it rocket thrusters and let us ride on it
also give it 20 photon blasters attached to the sides

[green jolt]

Apex, Elsa, hiding, kinda storing valuables, riding in the C.A.R.T. safely, blocking attacks

[urban sedge]

ok fair response... but you can not say that normal gun is a decent option

[nimble spire]

trying to do only one enemy at a time while dodging the other can be risky for little to no reward. and thats assuming you dont fuck up overcharge or theres lower tier enemys or general mishaps

[nimble spire]

normal gun is the best price to preformance ratio in the game and its not even close

[fallow lintel]

roll tech late game is usually a waste of time anyways
*imo

[knotty jungle]

Normal gun is a decent option.

[hollow herald]

i have never been so fearful of my life before

[vast void]

pulse is far better

[nimble spire]

normal gun needs to be increased to 30k price point before you even begin to think that normal gun is not op

[nimble spire]

pulse is good, normal pistol is more reliable though

[knotty jungle]

I think that depends on personal preference too

[urban sedge]

not in such scenarios

[hollow herald]

loom on a singleplayer 12,000 3 quota on museum

[knotty jungle]

Normal gun just deosn't do shit besides damage.

[long cliff]

hey tranq is still better early game (idk what this talk is about)

[vast void]

pulse is more reliable bro

[knotty jungle]

Which in a lot of cases isn't what you need.

[nimble spire]

When

[knotty jungle]

You'll be out of ammo before you can kill the 3rd t3.

[hollow herald]

no weapon too 💔

[knotty jungle]

And nothing is stunned while you do that

[long cliff]

i still think tranq is generally better for its price range but it makes sense that in late game gun is better

[fallow lintel]

it excells at killing low health T1's and T2's

especially upscreams

[nimble spire]

ye, tranq is the king of 1v1 no question. But once theres overcharge and pits stop killing enemies in 1 hit it falls off HARD

[knotty jungle]

But that's not the scene we were on about.

It was when you're attacked by multiple t3s

[nimble spire]

so a >20k weapon can kill 2 t3 enemies at range

[long cliff]

gun is not for t3

[nimble spire]

thats insanely good

[knotty jungle]

That's true if the bullets are free.

[nimble spire]

i said gun is the best price to preformance ratio

[knotty jungle]

A full charge gun is 48k

[long cliff]

gun is versatile because it kills t1s and t2s and finishes off t3s

[nimble spire]

crystal cost is irrelevant in all my calculations

[solar needle]

level 13 now godspeed

[long cliff]

using it to outright kill a t3 from full is not good

[solar needle]

i lowkey forgot to recharge indestructible and out of charge so 1 bar of that lol

[knotty jungle]

Then all your calculations are irrelevant as a whole...

[nimble spire]

its either early game and you can genuinely profit from killing enemys. Or its late game and money cost is irrelevant

that is why crystal cost is irrelevant

[knotty jungle]

I guess if you only play solo it is

[nimble spire]

its either cheap enough that bringing crystals make the weapon better or your late enough that your making 100k per level

[solar needle]

Headman manor 3rd time today bruhhh

hoping for some good cosmetics atleast

[knotty jungle]

We're making 300k a level and can't always afford all upgrades, crystals and health packs. x)

[nimble spire]

thats because of upgrade scaling

[knotty jungle]

We scale equally.

[nimble spire]

upgrade scaling

[knotty jungle]

I know how the game works.

[nimble spire]

upgrades cost more the more you buy.. buy crystals first then buy what else you need

[knotty jungle]

Idk the way we're doing it we don't need or can even get all of them cause the energy is maxed.

[solar needle]

common cozzy box

[knotty jungle]

So we still get stams and health

[nimble spire]

so why is crystal usage a huge issue then. You evidently dont use enough crystals per level for it to be a genuine concern

[knotty jungle]

Cause we were talking about using a full gun energy to kill 2.5 t3s...????

[solar needle]

also just seen the beta chances and 🥹

[knotty jungle]

What lol, forgot the topic at hand?

[urban sedge]

why did noone tell me about beta and it having 8% chance for ultra rare....

[neat blaze]

reached lvl 25. feeling good

[nimble spire]

which you would do in the early game... where thats profitable

[urban sedge]

im about to get all ultra rares

[knotty jungle]

Ah yea, the early game, that has 3 t3...???

Idk what's going on anymore lol

[nimble spire]

dont forget that killing enemies.... is killing enemies. This isnt about profit always your main attraction for killing enemies is to make the enemies go away

[long cliff]

why are we even talking about gun for t3s

[fallow lintel]

it literally just came out 2 hours ago lol

[long cliff]

it does that fine but its not its purpose what

[twin cloak]

Sir Bunny should be added

[urban sedge]

AND I SHOULDVE BEEN INFORMED, IVE PLAYED 2 HOURS IN AN DISADVANTAGE

[fallow lintel]

[knotty jungle]

Cause the claim is that it's better over pulse gun.

[long cliff]

oh thats definitely the case in any stage of the game

[solar needle]

ULTRA RARE

[long cliff]

pulse is fine but in no worlds is it better than gun generally speaking

[solar needle]

I GOTTA FUICKING LOCK IN HEADSMAN MANOR

[knotty jungle]

That's crazy

[neat blaze]

headman manor and mcjannek are the worst maps

[nimble spire]

its a genuinely good option

~20k price and kills every enemy from a distance.
Its not the best but its the best price to preformance you can get

the handgun is roughly the same price as a pan

[knotty jungle]

Again, if bullets were free, you're correct for sure.

[long cliff]

i had to add generally speaking because yes pulse can kill with pits in early game (depends on the pit)

[long cliff]

we dont even mention the pan

[fallow lintel]

nah this game doesn't have a frying pan weapon, sorry

[nimble spire]

in the early game bullets are free. You can kill 2 t3 and then spend the rest of the ammo killing the lower tiers and that can give you like 15k with one crystal

and it clears almost the entire enemy pool

gun is an EXTREMELY good weapon

[knotty jungle]

It decent.

[long cliff]

i mean its top 3/4 best wep rn theres not rly an argument for it

could be better than tranq and hence perhaps top 2 for late game but yeah

[rocky rapids]

did ultra rare crates get removed from the game

were they.. even a thing in the first place

[knotty jungle]

How is a handgun that can't stun and does shit for damage better then any weapon that can stun and give you tumble time and overcharge recharge time?

[long cliff]

it stuns t2s btw

[knotty jungle]

t2s are not ever a treat tho

[long cliff]

not all of them but i think all 4 strength breakpoint

[fallow lintel]

no
in fact, they're more common in beta btw #beta_content message

[nimble spire]

80 damage is fair amount

[long cliff]

yea but u can one shot some (with some rolling to help) for 1/15 energy

[rocky rapids]

it was a joke

[long cliff]

duck has 150 hp (t1 tho) and u can one shot it basically from the physics dmg

for 1/15 which is crazy

[nimble spire]

Boltzap is GENUINELY better than tranq past level 15 in damn near every situation

[fallow lintel]

sarcasm doesn't translate well through text

[rocky rapids]

duck has what hp? 😭

[knotty jungle]

So can the pulse gun

[rocky rapids]

aw man

[long cliff]

how

[long cliff]

what seriously

[knotty jungle]

Bounce damage

[long cliff]

i do think prod is like high A tier but like what

[nimble spire]

wait
bolt sap

[long cliff]

boltzap???? I think thats like low C or high D

[fossil parcel]

hey guys, any way to have new players join mid-game? the people i play with arent always online together, so sometimes people end up joining a few levels in, but it seems this update patched it?

[rocky rapids]

prodzap... i get that once in like 50 shops

boltzap.... imo mid

[long cliff]

bolt has like 0 stun basically its extremely sad

it also has 0 knockback

[knotty jungle]

Average cop taser

[fallow lintel]

scenario: it's level 15 in manor and there's a robe and clown on your tail
do you
A: use 2 shots of tranq so you can run away
B: use 2 shots of bolt-zap so you can run away

[urban sedge]

i dont know what the fucks wrong with beta version - but the globe, that shows my own reflection, when i pick it up, it throws my camera around everywhere

[long cliff]

each physics instance is 25
do u mean to tell me you can do 6 instances before the stun runs out

[nimble spire]

The point is that overcharge and pits not instakilling ruins the tranq. However if your using tranq for its defensive and life saving capabilities boltzap is just like objectively better

[long cliff]

eh i just use 1 tranq to roll it

even with overcharge its enough

[fallow lintel]

??????

@nimble spire you seein this shit

[long cliff]

oh shit u said robe and clown

i did not see the clown part whoops

[fallow lintel]

[knotty jungle]

You tranc robe and duck so clown lasers robe lol

[long cliff]

clown is so useless i forget about his existence thats crazy

[knotty jungle]

He's super useful to make him hit enemies with the lazer.

Same with huntsman

[granite sage]

can someone explain how thetick works? Does it suck a 100 total and when u dmg it, it keeps sucking?

[nimble spire]

tranq is a genuine liability past level 15 because its so weak if you need to deal with multiple enemies at once. Especially if the enemies are threatening

[knotty jungle]

Literally drops an entire room to sleep... lol how's that weak.

[willow lava]

i think the devs should consider upgrades for the extraction, like a large space, height adjustable shelves (or Zero Gravity), button to trigger/cancel extraction

[long cliff]

yea but thats multiple

[knotty jungle]

Also makes escaping super chill

[fallow lintel]

tick will suck you to add health to it's total health. damaging tick whilst it's sucking you will decrease it's health so it can keep sucking past 100 damage

[knotty jungle]

Tranq is so goated if used well.

[fallow lintel]

HOWEVER if you kill tick it can still give over 100 health back

[long cliff]

tranq still deals with solo 250 hp enemies even with overcharge unless probably it wont work if ur level 20

[knotty jungle]

It works

[granite sage]

alr, thanks

[long cliff]

tranq gun probably works then

[fossil parcel]

help please

[nimble spire]

Because it doesnt kill. putting enemies to sleep for 18 seconds is only better if you kill them during that time. If you dont kill them.. boltzap would let you run away just the same while having 3x ammo or something

[long cliff]

i agree its not rly like the most worth it anymore higher up but we're talking about using a 1.5s stun boltzap this is rly sad

[fallow lintel]

it's not a vanilla thing but there are mods for it

[fossil parcel]

do you know any names?

[long cliff]

if u want that purpose please just use prod its so much better with only -5 ammo

[knotty jungle]

So it's just as strong just less ammo, which in your previous discussions have proven to not matter, ammo is free.

[nimble spire]

If all you want the boltzap for is escaping bad situations, that stun is enough, to escape because it also deagros

[fallow lintel]

LateJoin

[long cliff]

the thing is u actually dont need to do this much

like sometimes u do but by having boltzap in ur inventory thats 1 slot down to do 1 specific thing

[nimble spire]

ammo cost is irrelevant
Ammo capacity IS relavent. Using tranq for defence is a genuine concern because the ammo count isnt that high. Boltzap ammo capacity is practically infinite in real game situations

[long cliff]

its understandable tranq's 8 ammo is not good in the case of late game but it does better in general because it does more things

[fallow lintel]

boltzap also saves on overcharge time since you have to use like a 1/3 of it to begin ragdolling a heavy T3
boltzap->put away-> drag

*at 13 strength

[nimble spire]

im arguing those "other things" are not usefull points to the tranq past level 15

[long cliff]

im level 30 with my friends rn and we still pit isolated enemies or roll them sometimes

not being as effective as early game does not mean not effective at all

[knotty jungle]

So we're going back to what I said to begin with, it's personal preference.

[fossil parcel]

thank you

[knotty jungle]

As there is never a situation asking for all that...

[nimble spire]

it suffers to overcharge. Suffers to multiple enemies at once. if used defensively it has a low ammo count. boltzap has none of these problems

[long cliff]

boltzap instead cant do anything but be defensive

and can still screw u over sometimes when u need a longer stun

[knotty jungle]

But he loves the boltzap and is biased so we can't change that.

[long cliff]

tranq stun is overkill while boltzap stun can be underkill

[fallow lintel]

in solo if i'm around level 15, I'm picking boltzap over tranq

[long cliff]

im picking prod over both

[nimble spire]

1.5s stun is enough to do stuff

[knotty jungle]

I prefer tranq.

[abstract junco]

what's the use of prod tho? I barely used it

[long cliff]

3s stun with knockback

[knotty jungle]

Shoverweapon

[long cliff]

with rolling it can do 83 dmg which is basically gun and can one hit knock to pit enemies

for the cost of 1/15 energy

[knotty jungle]

But it takes a bit more effort to use :P

Range arguments incoming.

[abstract junco]

with range this can be very nice

[long cliff]

correct

[abstract junco]

I mean, that applies to any melee weapon tho

[nimble spire]

id still argue that it can still suffer the multiple enemy problem, but thats not bad yea

[knotty jungle]

You can scroll prod like a melee?

[long cliff]

it is a melee so yes

[knotty jungle]

It's a melee???

I've been mis-self-taught lol

[abstract junco]

[fallow lintel]

prodzap is melee boltzap

[knotty jungle]

Then prodzap is top tier

With range

[long cliff]

boltzap can double zap a tiny bit faster but u can still scroll push and scroll pull all of them with prod

it does just fine

[abstract junco]

it's more expensive, so in early shops bolt can still be more worth it, but outside of that, yeah it sounds pretty good

[long cliff]

prod has served me so well my friend had a time where he wanted to switch his sledge with my prod it was kinda funny

[nimble spire]

in terms of late game effectiveness every moment you spend trying to kill enemies is moments of potential mistakes. Since energy is a farcry from being an issue late game i doubt prod or boltzap are great in a late game setup

[knotty jungle]

My gf is sledge hogger so I might get the prod then over this shit baseball bat I have lol

AT LEASt... if the shop allows me to

[long cliff]

u rly just run shotgun/sledge/gun, usually a combination of 2 of these

[knotty jungle]

Shop RNG been so bad, I have a handgun, pulsegun and bat... :'(

Level 27

[nimble spire]

im not saying every enemy is a threat with this, i just mean that it only takes one mistake to die. so if energy isnt an issue theres no reason to spend time to save energy

[long cliff]

maybe i should rate tranq lower

getting to the late game in person does change ur thoughts

[knotty jungle]

Str and Range changes a lot

[long cliff]

havent seen my friend tranqing often maybe i can get him on the boltzap so he can test it

[hollow herald]

i was so close to being cooked bro #repo_content

[nimble spire]

the thing about late game is that consistency is BY FAR the most important thing to maximize.

the game isnt hard. But especially in solo its literally one mistake and you're back to the start

so the best playstyles are the ones that naturally minimize any risks

[solar needle]

COLLECTED THE ULTRA RARE

SEEN ONE IN EVERY LEVEL NOW AND GOT 2/4 🥹

[nimble spire]

why is sledge not common to see by late game players? because a shotgun is more consistent and why use sledge when a more consistent shotgun fulfills the same purpose

[knotty jungle]

Yea, I've been telling people that ask for what's the best way to get cosmetics, and I keep telling them, consistently make it past 16 before thinking of that, lol

[solar needle]

I got the broken arm YOOOO

[urban sedge]

an ultra rare in every level....

[knotty jungle]

The difference from playing like level 1 to 16 to 16 to like 20 is crazy high for droprates.

[nimble spire]

Photon isnt bad, but it not shooting instantly gives a moment of weakness that the shotgun doesnt have. and while the extra range is nice, in terms of late game effectiveness being able to instantly shoot is valued higher than the increased range

[solar needle]

I meant every stage eg Mcjanneck, swiftbroom ect

i've only seen 4 of all time and got 2

[knotty jungle]

I hate the lazer gun lol, it's such a hazard, enemies usually don't take the full hit, and it's slow.

[rocky rapids]

hey chat should i lowk get another weapons
i got shotgun gun sledge combo rn

[long cliff]

honestly

sledge has more range and is more versatile if u wanna deal with lesser hp to save energy

i dont think shotgun is more consistent

[nimble spire]

while photon and sledge are nearly identical in usefulness, why even take the very minor chance that the photons slow wind up does actually get you hit

[long cliff]

i feel like its preference which one u run cuz both are great

[solar needle]

ooof the broken arm doesn't look too good without the rest of the outfit oh well ^^

[nimble spire]

less able to instantly react if you fuck up

[long cliff]

shotgun is faster tho but sledge is more versatile

[nimble spire]

THAT

[knotty jungle]

Because I only get shotguns early when I can't afford it and when I get to lategame and can afford it the shop never has one >:( /jk but real

[nimble spire]

that speed is valued MUCH higher than the versatility

[solar needle]

the ultra rares becoming more common soon anyways I don't gotta worry too much (speaking like i'd even get one lol)

[long cliff]

but like for example huntsman far away

what do u do? u probably have to 13 strength him

[nimble spire]

strength, range, infinite stamina and tons of speed makes the sledgehammers versatility irrelevant for late game players

[void tartan]

sledge has more ammo for when 2 million enemies come at once

I use shotgun + sledge

[long cliff]

if theres 2 then what do u do

[knotty jungle]

Distract him with a drone

To get closer

[long cliff]

if theres cleanup that u have to pickup its head for too what do u do

thats why i think its preference

[nimble spire]

Why do you need to pick up head

[long cliff]

to fling it away

[nimble spire]

why

[knotty jungle]

Don't touch heads it pulls them close...

Just run

[long cliff]

are u just running away blind when theres huntsmen

[knotty jungle]

Yea, huntsmen is easy to dodge.

[void tartan]

to make orb stay safe and not blow up the entire room

[knotty jungle]

Just go to a new level 1 and if you get huntsman practice dodging his shots.

Get him to shoot 4 and he get bored.

[nimble spire]

Yeah lmfao. you have 600 stam and 5 speed. if you run into an enemy you have a shit ton of jumps

[vast void]

I JUST LOST MY PB RUN TO A FUCKING PIT

[knotty jungle]

Gravity claims another victim.

[nimble spire]

shotguns lack of versatility is made up for by just having a shit ton of upgrades

[void tartan]

do yall use defibro btw?

[nimble spire]

sledge also doesnt one tap t3s

[vast void]

not gravity, it was the disgraceful ass blue vomit liquid in mcjannek station

[long cliff]

does this mean just tanking the huntsmen

[knotty jungle]

Haven't used it yet, but keep one close yes.

[long cliff]

i mainly see sledge gun

[vast void]

they never apear for me

[nimble spire]

You never land so you mever make a sound so he never shoots

[void tartan]

ok, I see alot of people not carrying one late-game and it confuses me

[long cliff]

awesome combo that saves a good amount of energy

[knotty jungle]

Well, for all we know this is just liquified gravity >:( /jk

[long cliff]

extra jumping doesnt make noise???

i... found new info

[void tartan]

really? its super common for me, I see one like every 3 shops

[nimble spire]

energy. Saving. Does. Not. Matter.

[long cliff]

as u said capacity matters

[knotty jungle]

Yea, midair jumping is silent. iirc, landing is what makes the noice but not sure

[vast void]

man I'm so upset

I opened the door and the stupid pit was right there

[long cliff]

u have the ability to sledge 10 enemies and finish with gun compared to shotgunning 5 and being vulnerable with only gun for the rest

[vast void]

right at the start of the room

[void tartan]

what level were u on

[knotty jungle]

Hitting the ground with a drone is what attracts the huntsman so I'm assuming it's the collision of solids that makes a sound

[vast void]

6

[long cliff]

yea landing makes a big noise thats like 1 room long in radius iirc

[solar needle]

does health save even if things despawn btw?

[void tartan]

the deadly level 6

[nimble spire]

this is where my experience will say, the issue with that loadout is the lack of instantly killing. its versatile sure, but you are better off with shotgun and a higher capacity weapon because of the shotguns safety

[vast void]

I'm gonna pull out my left shift key with fucking tweezers

[knotty jungle]

No. Things respawn with full life.

[nimble spire]

sledge gun is good, but shotgun is king because of its speed and raw damage

[void tartan]

shotgun and sledge is my favorite

[knotty jungle]

Shotgun with recharge drone in cart is ez mode.

[nimble spire]

shotgun sledge would be a good lpadput

[long cliff]

see just a combination of either 3

[nimble spire]

you need indus

[long cliff]

from the ytshorts i see arcane switch it up

[nimble spire]

and shotgun will fair better than gun

[long cliff]

combination of 2 from either 3

[nimble spire]

Prollu cause using the same shit gets fuckin boring lmfao

[void tartan]

the only time ive ever bought a photon blaster was because I wasnt seeing any other gun, and the chargeup fucked me over so many times

[nimble spire]

i legitimately never use shotgun. Its just boring to me

[knotty jungle]

Just putting it down has fucked me over too many times

Starts shooting outta nowhere

[nimble spire]

I will acknowledge its supremacy... but its not what i enjoy

[void tartan]

lmfao

[humble gyro]

It's just me or the key card to access manager room in the shop doesn't spawn anymore?

[long cliff]

man now im just thinking of how the weapon meta rly needs a shakeup

[void tartan]

its randomized spawns

[knotty jungle]

It might not always be on the same place? just guessing

Oooh I guessed it

[long cliff]

how is every weapon from this update mid

[void tartan]

real

[rocky rapids]

ok so arguably
what can i change from sledge gun shotgun combo

[fallow lintel]

did you see the staff buffs in beta👀

[long cliff]

the what

i dont have beta i dont see them

[nimble spire]

the game needs a balance rework

[hybrid python]

Agreed

[rocky rapids]

yh

[nimble spire]

hear me out. New moon phase. no more recharging weapons during levels

level 30+

cant JUST use the good shit the whole time anymore

[rocky rapids]

not recharging weapons during levels is evil as fuck tho dont you think

[knotty jungle]

I mean, if meta is what it always is, it's not the best pick just the most accessible and easiest to use.

[long cliff]

but like

does recharge drone just stop working completely then

[hybrid python]

I think the game needs to just take the emphasis off of items being insanely OP

[fallow lintel]

recharge drone would be more useful

[long cliff]

thats rly sad to have an item just be like 100% useless

[void tartan]

only on weapons I think

[humble gyro]

Duck it, found it after many tries to search for it 🫡 thanks

[nimble spire]

look its a spitball idea okay

[void tartan]

np

[knotty jungle]

I think they mean the recharge station is disabled until escape

[long cliff]

no like u cant recharge weapons so recharge drone cant recharge them either
it still works on other things but like

[solar needle]

level 14 now

[long cliff]

what exactly are the other things u use recharge drone for

[knotty jungle]

indestructible

[hybrid python]

That would be horrendous

[nimble spire]

Pretend it doesnt exist in this hypothetical okay?

[long cliff]

okay so I forgot about indus

[fallow lintel]

how about the energy station is just closed when you're in levels, like how it's closed in the shop

[unique kestrel]

Reject chud feather, accept chad roll drone (my items got destroyed)

[long cliff]

chat I think I am trolling

[fallow lintel]

so the only charging you can do is in the truck

[long cliff]

talked about weps so much i forgot the best item in the game

[nimble spire]

you could only use a weapon until it runs out and then you have to switch it up

[long cliff]

honestly i do like that

[nimble spire]

would that be an idea to work with

[rocky rapids]

buying all items in game?

[knotty jungle]

The best item in the game is the pulse grenade, cause you can use it to fuck with your friends without really fucking up your entire run :D

[long cliff]

imagine switching to inflatable against loom

[nimble spire]

cool so the lesser used stuff sees more use

[long cliff]

funny as hell

[rocky rapids]

that sounds cool tho

[nimble spire]

the best part is if this is liked, you could build into it more

[knotty jungle]

I mean, in multiplayer you might already do this in case you die and revive for another set of weapons.

[void tartan]

I got one clip of my friend pulling out a pulse grenade, somehow accidentally triggering it, he doesnt know what to do with it so he flings it to his left, and it goes towards the big jewel valuable on museum and it goes flying upwards and hits everything and lands on a little spot

[unique kestrel]

Is repo still moddable on thunderstore mod manager?

[fallow lintel]

yes

[long cliff]

me when i run out of my top 5 weps so i pull out the pocket cart cannon with void staff

[fallow lintel]

probably idk i use r2modman now

[nimble spire]

play with energy use more. if you use a weapon fully in a level then it breaks. Broken weapons cannot be used during the next level

[knotty jungle]

Yes, but the game recently updated, so there is a big change a lot of mods are not up to date with the game version.

[unique kestrel]

Should i delete the cosmetic mods? Cuz of compatibility and such

[fallow lintel]

if they don't support 0.4 (the cosmetics update) yeah

[unique kestrel]

[nimble spire]

the game needs a balance shake up. And i think the best way to approach it is to start with something drastic that changes something massively, see how it affects stuff, and then make small-medium balance changes that build around a core conceptual change

[fallow lintel]

balance update

[nimble spire]

because minor changes wont do much with the current balance state

[unique kestrel]

i just wanted an excuse to use it

[knotty jungle]

A good way to have "balance" is to have costumizable game settings.

So people can create their own balance

[unique kestrel]

No, they got testers for that

[nimble spire]

Yes hi hello thats me

[long cliff]

lmao

[knotty jungle]

I mean, kind of

Nothing is fully tested by testers alone

[unique kestrel]

Fuxk sorry

[fallow lintel]

John Tester

[knotty jungle]

You test it to an extend and then have to release it to see how the actual majority reacts to it.

[unique kestrel]

Still that shouldn't be for all players, only for testers

To T E S T it

[knotty jungle]

A test enviorment also has limitations.

[long cliff]

would it work if enemies killed by a certain weapon gain immunity to that wep upon respawning (as a moon modifier)

[unique kestrel]

Im sounding stupid rn but you get my point

[long cliff]

idk im spitting out ideas while tired and needing sleep

[fallow lintel]

when was it implied that the idea should be released to the public immediately

[unique kestrel]

Mb then

[knotty jungle]

AYO keep those Sentients out of here please

[long cliff]

what

[fallow lintel]

sleep -> spit -> repeat

[unique kestrel]

On higher levels monsters spawn again almost inmeadeately so idk if it would work

[knotty jungle]

(An enemy from warframe that builds resistance the more you use a type of weakness on it)