#anoms on asteroids

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tired belfry
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Just a bit of feedback, maybe remove infectious anoms from the astroids.

Miners (often new players) are getting infected, and have no way to contain or mitigate said infection, and it leads to gibbing.

dapper shell
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do they not ask for help?

long quest
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add ape to all mining ships

tired belfry
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People don't do research anymore
Not to the same degree
They hunt disks

dapper shell
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well

step one, tell them to remove their helmet in space

tired belfry
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Or remove infection anoms from astroids lol

Leaving regular ones

zenith elk
# tired belfry Just a bit of feedback, maybe remove infectious anoms from the astroids. Miners...

I could change the anomaly spawn pool pretty easily, light yaml work. I don’t want to remove them entirely because I think they make mining slightly less braindead for a very small cost. Afaik the lower boundary for time it takes for an infectious anom to go supercrit and gib someone is 15ish minutes (time between pulses is longer on avg), which should be more than enough time to research, make, buy from cargo, or get a scientist’s help in fixing.

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I’m glad anomaly artifact ore spawnrate was decreased though, I didn’t test it enough

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I think reducing their spawnrate contributes to uninformed people who don’t know how to solve the problem though. I’m down to Guidebook it up, modify the infectious anomalies, and i’m already scheming on how to make them more beneficial to keep around beyond the points value.

tired belfry
viscid nacelle
tired belfry
# viscid nacelle Sad

It really is but like...
Anoms are incredibly dangerous and the points are just so slow.

Compared to simply killing bots, or salvage.

Same with artifacts.

They are decent to have secondary, but as your main thing?

It takes to much work.

Especially because by the time you get research done, chimera kill you, or you turned off iff to avoid chimera and ADS kills you, or you dodge both and a pirate kills you.

fair moss
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I think it's pretty lame to have a research check for a mining vessel for something entirely unrelated to what you're doing, especially when it's something that just straight up gibs your corpse. So the choices are: die, hope you can squeeze out the research you didn't know you needed before you die or run around and hope someone wants to help you. (good luck getting to them on time.) It's like having a check on expeds where you explode if you don't have a carp caller built for whatever arbitrary reason.

zenith elk
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If you’re walking around on an asteroid you’re mining and suddenly fall over with an anomaly possession message i’d hope players have the sense to start looking for a solution instead of wait for it to kill them.

fair moss
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And that in itself isn't very fun, either. "Haha, you dared mine a rock. Now run to the trade mall with this timer. Hoo hoo hee hee."

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And, I mean, newer players and people who just are mining probably wont have a research setup just going on their rig.

zenith elk
fair moss
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Still think this feature is a major bummer. Not trying to be super negative here, but I strongly dislike it.

zenith elk
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I’m already thinking about modifying anomalies in general, and in particular making infectious anomalies come with benefits to keeping beyond just the points (IE, spells)

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Have you personally encountered a situation where an infectious anomaly would have resulted in you getting gibbed before having the chance to fix it

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IE, before 15 minutes or some other generalized amount of time

fair moss
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Yep! I was deep space mining, got infected. Wasn't aware it was even a thing, so it hit me out of the blue. Didn't know I could just buy a scanner. Didn't have the research to unlock it. So I hit a wall. Asked on cooms if anyone could sell me a scanner, no one hit. Flew to anom lab to get a scanner and an ape. Someone had looted every single scanner in the lab. Every single one. Killed some time looking for it, found an APE. Continued to beg for a scanner. Someone finally said they had one. Got to CC to meet them and gibbed.

zenith elk
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How long did that entire process take?

fair moss
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Around ten to fifteen minutes or so.

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It seems like a bit much to throw gibbing at someone for mining. Like, if I just died, that'd be more chill. At least some hope of recovery, lol.

zenith elk
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Alright, that’s probably fine then. Clarifying the infection messages is something else I can easily do. I already said i’d modify the ingame guidebook pages for it, which will hopefully also help.

fair moss
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If I had known about the trade mall, I definitely would have survived.

zenith elk
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Mid rim is out to 9k for mining access, even with a slow ship that doesn’t have an FTL drive that’d take at most 3 minutes to get from the outermost edge back to CC

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Well, beelining. Maybe assume 4-5 for steering around asteroids. If you have an FTL that goes down to a flat 1 minute or so

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Yeah, better informed is always good. I don’t intend this to just be “new player gibber 9000”

fair moss
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I'm not really new, just stupid.

zenith elk
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New / uninformed

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It’d also be pretty easy to add a basic anomaly kit to cargo

viscid nacelle
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anomalous infections shouldn't gib on detonation

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its excessive

tired belfry
zenith elk
tired belfry
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Fair enough

zenith elk
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making them not gib is a good step to start from though

fair moss
viscid nacelle
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If you dont want Anomalies avoid ice asteroids

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Other asteroids have very low anomaly spawnrates

north seal
long quest
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i just did a lot with the new anom roids and i dunno if its been mentioned before but it would be nice if there was a mining vessel equipped with an ape, portable generator and anomaly container for taking advantage of them

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also a tip if your about to pop from an anom infection is to just kill yourself it prevents you from gibbing

inner nebula
inner nebula
long quest
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i mean i think the other problem is who the heck has anom gear unless someone runs the ruby(rip) all the time i think most players are not gonna know where to get the equipment for it especally when it requires research to print out

zenith elk
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some anomalies aren't removed on death, I don't have a list I just know it's possible

long quest
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rip well at least theres a chance to survive instead of waiting to gib

odd slate
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Instead of gibbing maybe it should heavily irradiate you and give you some genetic damage, enough to kill you and be difficult to treat but still savable by MD with some work

viscid nacelle
viscid nacelle
inner nebula
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\o/