Better research labs

[wide monolith]

Currently there are 4 functioning research labs (2 PDV, 1 in Camelot and 1 TSF, all are lacking in storage, equipment, gas configuration or airlock and none (other than the abandoned anomaly lab) have a anomaly generator

I think all of the research labs should have the basics, gas configuration, functioning airlock, equipment, proper storage but also should be different

TSF: quality over quantity, they would have an anomaly generator and better storage, testing chamber, equipment, etc. they would be focused on heavy, less safe researching

PDV: quantity over quality, 2 research labs, both having the basics. They would be focused on lighter, somewhat safe researching

USSP (Camelot): safety over all, 1 research lab with somewhat large artifact storage, safer testing chamber/storage. They would be focused on the personnel, visitors and researcher(s) not being hurt with thick walls, bomb suits

This way it would still be asymmetrical multiplayer, even in research

If I have 2 hours I can play monolith, I’d rather not use the first half trying to find, repair or create the equipment needed.

Sure, you COULD buy the ruby but at that point your a separate vessel from the station and could probably be charged with abandoning faction role or wouldnt be given artifacts/pay for it

[quartz surge]

Buying a ruby isn’t faction abandonment

[ashen sonnet]

Its not

[wide monolith]

Fr?

[ashen sonnet]

Faction abandonment is when you go off and do your own thing like a full civilian

[quartz surge]

Just to be clear faction abandonment is essentially just completely abandoning your faction in order to do normal civilian work

[ashen sonnet]

Especially without getting permission for such a thing from your command or what not

[quartz surge]

You can do basically whatever you want as long as you’re doing it to benefit your faction, with some borderline shit like expeds being acceptable sometimes but not if you’re actively losing the Halc/Helios kinda thing

[wide monolith]

I’d still rather just have functioning labs since it costs like 200K, plus the ruby isn’t always gonna be there so people (without checking if it’s there) would probably just not bring you artifacts

With a permanent lab people will go “oh well maybe my faction’s researchers would like this”

[ashen sonnet]

I mean

Monolith is a ship game still

Station stuff being better than ships would be kinda weird

[quartz surge]

If you need artifacts you get 3-4 complex big artifacts per blue wrecks or you can mine iceteroids for artifact fragments

[ashen sonnet]

Its not like faction outposts are dedicated research stations

[wide monolith]

I know, but i still would like if I could supply those ships with better equipment

[quartz surge]

Meh

[ashen sonnet]

Thats just a matter of "did someone want to make a good dedicated tsf research vessel" or whatever

Although fully outperforming civilian ships in every way isn't really desired either

[wide monolith]

Yeah, and I know I’m reaching with the anomaly generator idea but it’s just completely different when it’s a research lab in monolith than a research lab on the default ss14 gamemode, once (after a while of building) I get a good research lab it’s really satisfying to be handed artifacts, building equipment for ships and selling researched stuff

[quartz surge]

I wouldn’t mind making some sci resources more accessible (construction graph artifact container, for example), but I’d rather add more ways to get points through the use of ships and POIs than make station research

[wild lantern]

woe, anomaly labs forgotten YET AGAIN

entire functioning lab, granted guarded by xenos

[wide monolith]

I didn’t forget about it, I just really doubt anyone is gonna visit even after all the effort of trying to remove the xenon

[wild lantern]

its not that hard to kill the xenos, only issue is their acid blood but even then

[wide monolith]

Where’d the attached pictures go?

[wild lantern]

anomaly lab should be the research source for factions

[wide monolith]

These WERE attached but now aren’t

[wild lantern]

military bases should not have a rnd built into their base

[quartz surge]

We’re space military though (and sci is part of game balance…)

[wide monolith]

The only other 2 stations you can spawn at are safe zones though, wouldnt want explosions happening there

[quartz surge]

You can do sci on CC and MD

[wild lantern]

yes, space military, still military

rnd should be ELSEWHERE

[quartz surge]

Generally you’d only be doing it as staff for those places

[wide monolith]

CC isn’t really functioning tho, lacks a R/D server, panel and scanner as well as being very broken

[wild lantern]

civilian roles for factions might be nice tho

[wild lantern]

suppose to be like the overseer repairing this

which, isnt really needed?

[wide monolith]

Agreed

[quartz surge]

Oh definitely, but nothing’s stopping you from repairing it and using it

[wild lantern]

since yet again, the ravager, the security capital, has a artifact lab built right in

[wide monolith]

Yes but it gets tiring to have to repair it each shift

[quartz surge]

[wild lantern]

ravager

[quartz surge]

It’s also tiring to research the same things every shift

[ashen sonnet]

I know people have wanted to add faction support/civilian roles

[wide monolith]

?

[wild lantern]

the ravager has a built in rnd lab

[quartz surge]

It’s what i’m sayin, i’d rather just expand the gameplay (if I had good ideas for how to do that)

[ashen sonnet]

Main issue is that those kind of people would be non combatants flying around with combatant iffs which isnt ideal

[wide monolith]

Is the ravager a ship or station?

[ashen sonnet]

If you could make an area safer for people of your faction but with ftl thats kind of hard

[wild lantern]

the overseer ship

its the capital

cc capital ship

[wide monolith]

What’s the drawback?

[wild lantern]

weak as hell, it is drone carrier

so it spits out drones

but generally, the overseer and cc secuirty are "neutral" so it is only used as a mobile base

[wide monolith]

I’ll check it out

[wild lantern]

the lpc is inside overseers office, gotta be a overseer to call it in