What is the best melee weapon?

[minor wing]

I need to know for ASR shenanigans.

[obsidian gulch]

HF katana

Or that stupid ass guitar
In the contraband vend you can literally stun asakim with it in 3 hits

[wary elk]

VT-7 HF blade

65DC in uplink, or researchable

[minor wing]

i have used it before and it seems like its really weak trying to get through lategame TSF armor

thats why im asking for suggestions here i need something that can kill TSF specifically

[wary elk]

thats cause the M92x has generally high resists all around

there isn't really anything much better beyond robbing an asakim for their special sword

[minor wing]

do you know any good ways to get through the armor other than explosive grenades?

[wary elk]

burner rifle tends to fuck them up in 4-6 shots, HE even quicker cause it explodes

[minor wing]

my current ASR character is a Oni in a stealthsuit so

[wary elk]

ah

kanabo

otherwise, you're better off stealing from TSF, the breach hammer does absurd damage for oni

[minor wing]

how do i get kanabo?

also isnt there a ship that spawns with breach hammer?

or is breach hammer different from breaching hammer

[wary elk]

TSF breaching hammer does like insane blunt and can literally delimb when used by onis

[minor wing]

thank you for helping me

[obsidian gulch]

The guitar in the contraband vend is single-handedly the best 1v1 weapon because it can stun

Doesn't matter if they have a shield dead.

[narrow anchor]

The now #1 melee weapon is probably the asakim's sword

[obsidian gulch]

The stun meta surpasses all weapons

[obsidian gulch]

Not even a joke 3 hits in the pit with them and they were down and out

[narrow anchor]

The asakim sword does heat, caustic, slash, 45 between all 3. When its turned on. When its OFF it still does 35 slash

with 1.5 attack rate

[obsidian gulch]

Pathetic.
My guitar solos 💥🔥

Also why is it only 30 TC it's literally too cheap for what it is

I've literally soloed every type of creature there is with this 🎸

Except for expedition creatures they don't get stunned....

[civic creek]

i know you made the pr yesterday, but it looks like its 1.25, still very good sword

[narrow anchor]

I didn't make it yesterday I made it like a month ago

Ark merged it yesterday

[civic creek]

lmao, stuck in review hell

[civic creek]

does it reflect bullets or only lasers? not about to look up the comp

[narrow anchor]

I believe it can do both

[fast brook]

❤️‍🔥

[spark orbit]

melee's about to finally be good

anyways the objective best melee weapon depends on what your using it for, if your only goal is stupid amounts of damage per hit a breaching hammer is near perfect but its abyssmal attack delay makes it worthless against armored opponents

the ASR HF blade is your best bet for faction combat, with normal e-swords at a close second because thier heat damage gives them some ability to ignore armor

once the melee update is live, the plastitanium sabre (the naval officer sword not the captain sword) is about the strongest in terms of dps but it doesnt have a secondary damage type so its mostly wortless against armor

[narrow anchor]

You forgot about the Asakim HF blade. If you can get one it's a monster

[spark orbit]

yeah IF you can get one

also it uh, might need adjusted

maybe

idk i made the melee damage pr like a month ago so theres a large handfull of stuff that i never looked at like tge new asakim swords or welder swords

[minor wing]

What’s your opinion on best weapon for getting through late shift faction armor?

[spark orbit]

asakim sword or ASR HF blade

[minor wing]

I can’t get a breaching hammer on my melee character since I don’t use them as my tsf character

Alright

Thanks

[spark orbit]

hot tip

the uh... sabine MKII is amongst the cheapest merc ships, and it always has a breaching hammer in its gun locker

[minor wing]

Yeah I know about it

I thought there was a difference between that hammer and TSF hammer

[spark orbit]

nope

[narrow anchor]

It does 35 slash inactive and 15 slash 15 heat 15 caustic when active with 1.25 attack rate I think it's fine

[minor wing]

I also thought structural damage didn’t hurt players

[spark orbit]

it doesnt but the hammers base damage when weilded is so high it doesnt matter

[minor wing]

Guess next time I play I will see if I can bonk some TSF with it

I like to do stealthsuit melee and grenade so hopefully the alpha strike from it helps

[solemn nymph]

Emag a music vendor

[obsidian gulch]

Wait what

[solemn nymph]

Yeah

Use a emag on the purple vending machine for instruments

At Crazey Casey

Tinnia

And TM

[obsidian gulch]

YOU CAN get one of the best weapons in the game from a music vend??????

[solemn nymph]

Costs like 20k but yea

[obsidian gulch]

20k is definitely worth it

[solemn nymph]

You can also get interdyne herbals from shady cigs

[obsidian gulch]

I mean obvious

But I didn't expect 30 TC weapon to be buyable

With credits...

[solemn nymph]

AP throwing knives at non-lethal and less-lethal vendors

[obsidian gulch]

Less lethal my ass

I never knew of these monolith exclusive uses for the emag

[solemn nymph]

Emagging a stasis bed makes people process chems about 4 times faster

[obsidian gulch]

????

[solemn nymph]

It’s beneficial medically

There’s more pros than cons

[obsidian gulch]

You could literally use that mid combat..

Hold on got to take a snooze.

[solemn nymph]

So

If you

For example

Had 90 brute damage

Instead of taking 5 years to heal with bic

Get a stasis bed

Emag

Now it only takes 1 year

I watched someone’s 90 damage injury heal in less than 3 seconds

But it was mostly asphyx

[obsidian gulch]

The only monolith exclusive emag I've heard of was a Ripley being able to use 120mm cannons

And that was promptly executed

[solemn nymph]

It can what

[obsidian gulch]

It could used to

[solemn nymph]

Oh yeah by the way the emagged stasis bed still prevents rot

[obsidian gulch]

Holy shit that's strong

[solemn nymph]

You know how stasis beds make it almost impossible for you to process chems?

Emag and it makes you process chems and makes you process them 4x faster

It’s not really good for combat

Sadly

[obsidian gulch]

Well I know what I'm doing with the contraband vend next time I see it

[obsidian gulch]

I got to test if it still works when unanchored

[solemn nymph]

JUST BE ASR!!!

[obsidian gulch]

Nice try faction propaganda

[pliant lynx]

overall? think the hf blade wins out, the rest are pretty mediocre? i saw one of those welder blades yesterday and was greatly disappointed that it dealt less damage than a kukri. even the crushers do less damage than a kukri or close to it.

Melee weapons could do with a buff almost across the board imo

[narrow anchor]

A lot of them just did get nuffed

The navy officer saber now does 40 slash

[pliant lynx]

when did that happen i didnt see a pr about it?

[narrow anchor]

It's a PR that's been sitting for like a month

[narrow anchor]

Ding

[pliant lynx]

oh it hasnt passed thats why lol

oh wait no it got merged 2 days ago

damn changelog

looks mostly sword and hammer based, sadj

[pastel geyser]

Also they can rot faster

[spark orbit]

it was focused on weapons that had comparatively fallen behind the curve, and sadly i made it before welder swords were added

my #1 example was katanas pre-buff because they did 22 slash

that made a katana, a tier 2 research locked, 2x4 sized, medium attack speed melee weapon have WORSE STATS THAN A COMBAT KNIFE

i left eswords mostly untouched (although deswords got buffed because they used to highkey suck)

and the naval sabre (now plastitanium sabre) was re-worked to be a high-end slash damage only melee weapon (since at the point a faction on faction fight reaches melee you NEED high base damage or armor penetration)

[solemn nymph]

I know Asakim swords is either 60 slash or 25 caustic 25 slash and 25 smthing (the stats may be slightly wrong)

Then I would say it’s either navy officers sabre (40 slash) or Hf blade

[spark orbit]

against bloodred level armor the naval sabre actually does worse than an e-sword

by just a bit

but

it becomes better than an e-sword against elite armor

[solemn nymph]

I mean tbf elite has 80% heat res

While bloodred only has 50% heat res