The Union of Soviet Socialist Planets

[thin marlin]

you're going to the gulag bub

[graceful spear]

like, femur has like 6+ plastit walls to gens and cockpit from the front

[thin marlin]

do not resist the de-privatisation

[graceful spear]

maybe even 8

[carmine crown]

Naw you going to a panopticon type prison on nearest moon to excavate ammonia rocks

[marsh island]

Commissar paid me twice, 30 shift coverage. that payment is expired. time to re-up.

[carmine crown]

Potato craves nutrients

[carmine crown]

How much even

[thin marlin]

Which commissar is this

We are going to need to hit them with sticks

[marsh island]

1 mil per shift, discounted to 500k per shift past 10 shifts covered

[carmine crown]

Despite our infaction USSP differences, I think we all unite under urge to level DoC the moment they announce paid insurance to everyone.

[marsh island]

some companies are covered for free, some are not

[thin marlin]

So true

Maybe instead of CC, we should get MD

[carmine crown]

Call it USSP "Lazaret" Medical Center

Or "Policlinika" for shits and giggles

[carmine crown]

I dont think a lot of people will pay that for USSP tbh. I like your idea and that you really went with privatised company for that.

However prolly just, very much clashes with vibe

[marsh island]

you would be VERY surprised

[carmine crown]

I know, some folk have 80+ mils

And some, abuse some things a lot using observers

[marsh island]

i have an investor that has thus far paid me 25 mil on his own

[carmine crown]

Sierra?

[marsh island]

uh huh

he is the investor

[carmine crown]

I know

Not to talk about them behind their back but, I observed them some, and I know what they do to make this much

[marsh island]

they just smuggle a lot

[carmine crown]

Wonder how they get the fax so often

[marsh island]

they dont. they actively just go to the locations and blindly search every potential place

a lot of people do

you'd be surprised

[flat lodge]

tbf no one in their right mind should expect that only people who get the fax should smuggle.

[tardy lily]

we can talk if you wana

https://tenor.com/view/platypus-gif-23897459

[marsh island]

about what

[tardy lily]

RSC insurance

[marsh island]

you got #whitelisted ?

[tardy lily]

Ohh thats WL chat..

mm no

[marsh island]

dms then

[tardy lily]

aye

[violet cloak]

Hard agree

[low zodiac]

Why is it even our problem?

Just run our own med and use it as propaganda fuel

If MD tries to hire mercs to jump our shit

fucking kill them

[violet cloak]

Manpower mostly

That and we dont get the luxury of MD pay

[main obsidian]

Yaaa Camelot has no real leaders so they can't give out an income to people

Part of why if I am working as stc or generally working the medbay or research I occasionally take out some of the less used mats and use them as "Payment"

[thin marlin]

Fishing boat

Its such a good idea

[carmine crown]

I did my part

[river nebula]

Nah

[thin marlin]

ouuugh

drakon, drakon may be taken out back and shot

[river nebula]

what?

Ah the ship rebalance thing?

[thin marlin]

Yeeeep

New mapping guidelines standards got raised

[carmine crown]

Thats gonna be cringe

As always, goldenchild tsf can have whatever, while others cant

[thin marlin]

just means i gotta cook harder

[low zodiac]

One of the only good ships USSP has

weeping

[thin marlin]

ok it got thickened

not sure i like the radar markings

my fat chud son

[carmine crown]

Bro, its so over

[thin marlin]

Whar?

[thin marlin]

Also i yearn for a late tech tree scout suit

[thin marlin]

Oh uhh it shouldnt be too different mobility and armor wise

Infact probably more survivable due to just more interior space

Has two large thruster and four small to propel it forward

[carmine crown]

Ok thats baller

I guess I just loved the old shape too much you know

New one looks fire

I just got distracted when I was writing that and got cut off

On another note

Fuck nerds using USSP gear cause they got skill issue and cant find gear, but steal it from righteous comrades

[thin marlin]

ough

i have given it back its anus airlock

[thin marlin]

uhhh

the funny maptainer person said to kill the CTLA-160

its so THICK

i want to remove some of the side profile armor, but in doing so it exposes all of the critical electronics to frontal fire

anyway, its the drakon in essence, it can perform probably to the same effect as the drakon

i will have another few passes to get internal decals correct

and maybe even room layouts (looking at bridge and the dorms)

as with the last iteration, if you see any points on it you dont like, please say so

oh uhhh forward speed with current arrangement is 81 without upgrading the smaller thrusters

iff with the guns loaded

[thin marlin]

on this note though, they did say 25/25s

so in spirit of the drakons now gone 160 ive put a 25s

[flat lodge]

Thats the smallest firing angle i've ever seen on a cyrexa (which arent even worth using anymore)

[thin marlin]

Just gotta wait for cyrexa to be over buffed again

[flat lodge]

Surely

Drakon bros this is the way

but seriously that firing range is way too small

and the original drakon firing angle was already small

[rain remnant]

hi peeps

so

imma need an actual job icon for a special ussp remnant role

and also, please maintain it and not make half their gear recolored sec hardsuits and modsuits
also an actual comms key sprite too thankies

[thin marlin]

cant believe security stole from us

but uhh, that sounds baller

[thin marlin]

hmm, alright

[flat lodge]

Delicious

[glass falcon]

nice

[pulsar wagon]

Uh, I know you been asking for sprites, so if I understand right, you need:

• job icon sprites, I think the role you mentioned was Conscript... Right?
• a sprite for the comm key, just Tac Comm key I assume?
• more stuff generally? We kind of inherited all this stuff, hence the sec theming. If you look at para, the suits are very similar

Spriting isn't really my thing, points at bio

Maybe I can goida something, when I'm home

[thin marlin]

Spriting scares me

Also since vulture is killed we can maybe steal its shape

I mean uhh… borrow

[rain remnant]

thankies, but a sprite for Remnant first, then the command roles

[rain remnant]

vulture ain’t dead

slh

[thin marlin]

Its deeeeaaaad

Puppet its corpse

Oh wait no its not the pr got closed

Damn

[rain remnant]

i was even remapping it lmfao

[thin marlin]

I really want to see it available to civs and to not see it gone, its such a nice ship

[pulsar wagon]

How many roles you want?
It's a bit lazy, but if it were me, I'd keep the former faction roles for Remnants, so Rifleman, Efreighter (misspelled but you know the one), etc., on the basis ex- soldiers would likely just keep the IDs they were issued

Otherwise, I'd split it into:

• USSP Naval Personnel
• USSP Citizen or contractor
  2 roles, one military, one civilian

[rain remnant]

hm

idk then

maybe too much role bloat

[thin marlin]

I think the two roles would support better

And uhh as they say, role bloat

[rain remnant]

i don't even think

that two roles

are like something

just go ussp remnant

boom

just keep the role icons for events

and shit

[glass falcon]

And another thing to discuss are we doing #1484258826621292714 thingy?

[thin marlin]

If it happens it happens

Could make organising content we need easier

Because looking at whats been asked from the pineapple we need a fair bit of spritework

[glass falcon]

Fair enough

[pulsar wagon]

Yeah, past experiences with metacords hasn't been particularly good tbh
I'm holding off that idea atm

Just in terms of my own contributions, I've sort of fallen off contributor/lore writing grind due to IRL stuff
I should be making a comeback in 2-ish weeks, John is getting his own hab-block, WITH A DESK so I can return to the YAML forge
Hell, I might even start playing again

[rain remnant]

no but an actual ussp contrib metacord would be nice

with an actual content focused experience

rather than 'waaaah maints killed ussp waaaah"

[pulsar wagon]

I mean, we have 2 contribs who focus on USSP content, I think RWS made a ship a while ago, but they split their focus over a lot of peak

Bot maps kino ships, I mainly did (although I hope that changes) YAML stuff, I'm also sort of the one supposed to be writing the updated lore. My current contribs have been largely making some of our faction stuff available again, comms was the most notable I guess

But yes, more new and reworked content would be good to keep USSP interesting

I do have some ideas, but it would be good to know what the plan is with Minor Factions and where all this fits

[carmine crown]

Naw whoever it is, is cringe and should have a restraining order against

This is anything but drakon

This is a cool ship, dont get me wrong

But... Just...

There is only a hint of whats left of what made drakon - drakon

I already forsee tsf buff and several 160s added to new ships with no issue from that maintainer

[thin marlin]

Overreaction, its fine

Just hold out and see whats in the works

If my opinion does hold any opinion, i do think the maptainers are moving in a good direction

[carmine crown]

If you check #1356724251490648074 you can see Altair.

This is pretty much tsf buran.

But it gets purple shield, 2 op gens and charon on the start

[thin marlin]

The people who are mainly working on the higher level faction ships are doing very good job on them

[thin marlin]

Its strong, as it should be

[carmine crown]

How much is it

[thin marlin]

Voucher requirement

Remember the buran only requires money

[carmine crown]

Hm, fair nuff

[thin marlin]

Altair is meant to be fighting thing like the pdv saintie and fenrir

Which are incredibly strong

[carmine crown]

Dunno really, some of the resently added ships are just metagamey fragfest

[thin marlin]

It happens, especially with newer mappers

[carmine crown]

Like scallywag, bless its creator is very good

Naw they are very well receptive of feedback from both sides of it

Ship itself is good

[thin marlin]

That and im intending for the ussp/average merc to be able to punch back

[carmine crown]

Its just the combo what it offered for just 100k

[carmine crown]

Is it 25 or 25s?

[thin marlin]

Unsure yet, likely only 25 due to it being fenrir capable

[carmine crown]

Sad

Old drakon just covered a very nice niche

Decent, not bulky ship capable of resques

[thin marlin]

It did, once i finish this iteration ill probably argue its niche

To atleast the ctla-50 so it somewhat reaches a farther range than other vessels

[carmine crown]

🙏

Comissar, leave me my big ass ftl on a good combat ship and my life is Union's

[thin marlin]

Actually, @idle remnant in the comment on the reworked drakon pr, you mentione changing its ctla-160 to a 25 or 25s, would a ctla-50 work to keep the drakons iconic longer range FTL

[carmine crown]

Is Sekunda getting remap as well?

[thin marlin]

Yes, i intend to map it at some point mainly to fulfill a better niche and be more desirable

Though if someone else wants to map it first im fine with them doing so, i do take quite long to make a design and pr it

Same with any ussp ship

[thin marlin]

The ctla-50 in the same research as the 25s as far i remember

[carmine crown]

Ctl160 Sekunda EMS would be so rad

Deep space ambulance/resque

[idle remnant]

I'm ngl USSP in the past was known for being a very low tech faction with them generally having little FTL (to my knowledge)

and even now anything other than CTLA-25 is rare to see

25s being rarely seen on some ships

CTLA-160 is very sus to see at base since it's meant to be researchable

and to my knowledge the only CTLA-50 is in the Olympus, a capital cargo ship

TL:DR to answer you ngl you'll need to convince me big time on why a merc ship needs a CTLA-50

[carmine crown]

Dare I remind you actual USSR had analog machines so advanced that we have much space tech now?

[idle remnant]

I'm not up to date to whatever the lore made up for USSP is

I'm more so caring about what the Drakon is now and how their ships were designed back then

[thin marlin]

Same, hence why im asking. So would this be a better case of waiting?

[idle remnant]

I'm surprised the Drakon has a 160 in the first place

[carmine crown]

Well, USSP CTL160 was fheir gig for a long time

[idle remnant]

I mean do tell me why you think it needs a CTLA-50

over a 25/25s (25s will need discussion with maints but likely possible at the cost of increased price)

[carmine crown]

It was their thing since PDV has firepower, TSF has shields and emp

[idle remnant]

can you tell link me to a source of your claim or just list me how many USSP ships has big boy FTL drives ?

[thin marlin]

Mainly to fit a seperate niche of fast responding merc craft, curren the meta is the mudskipper which the drakon seperates itself with less meta weapons

[thin marlin]

Atm, only the buran/ledo have a ctla-160

So capital sized vessels

[carmine crown]

Ledokol, Buran, Drakon

Maybe tunguska too

But you cant get it atm

[idle remnant]

ledo's a capital

[thin marlin]

Tung dead, replaced with buran

[idle remnant]

Buran's a fat fuck but I'll give you that

I mean both of them are massive, although lmc

yeah alr neither of them need removal

[thin marlin]

Buran replaced tung which was classified as a cap vessel, so

[idle remnant]

hm

both of them are capital

[carmine crown]

See thing is

[thin marlin]

Drakon WAS unique due to its long range FTL

[carmine crown]

Drakon was always bulky, slower and underfirepowered

And that ftl what made him unique

Nd filled a very specific nieche

[idle remnant]

I mean if the entire gimmick of a ship is having a roundstart pre fracture drive

maybe the concept is bad imo

but okay hold on lmc the mudskipper's FTL drive

looks like a CTL25

[thin marlin]

Mudskippers is a reg 25

[idle remnant]

yeah

mkay

[carmine crown]

No, this was a balance thing

A trade off

[idle remnant]

alr I'll do this professionally and check every ship with a CTL50 and see which ones have

[carmine crown]

And USSP has prefracture drives

[thin marlin]

I think its genuinely just the olympus lmao

[carmine crown]

Why would it be an issue

[idle remnant]

I'm going to be honest my bro you sound very biased in favor the of USSP

[carmine crown]

Because in the time when most are either biased in favor of tsf and pdv, someone has to

[idle remnant]

possible

I'll make sure

[thin marlin]

The only ships im aware with a non 25 drive are uhh both faction capitals, andro and that one med ship

[carmine crown]

But yeah, I just heavily disagree with deletion of ctl160 from drakon and I think its going to bring morr harm

[thin marlin]

I wont deny lyagushka’s probable bias, but i do think removing the 160 would be a worse action

[carmine crown]

I mained drakon for a long time, whats going to happen is - instead of a balanced ship that fullfilled a certain role, people will just buy capitals all around

This will just cause a downward spiral of nerf upon nerf

[idle remnant]

Alr

I've checked pretty much every ship with 50s and 160s

balance is all over the place that's an unsurprising fact

[thin marlin]

As is monolith

[idle remnant]

yeah

[carmine crown]

🗣️ 🔥

[idle remnant]

since shit like comet got it among other things

I'll allow it under one condition

give me the value of your appraisegrid & marker on your drakon PR

we'll discuss an up-pricing from there.

[carmine crown]

We are so back

Thank you

[idle remnant]

I'll say though dawg I get that USSP was done dirty big time but no need to go on the full defensive when I kick in for balancing a ship PR

I'm sure when the minor faction update is live something will be done about you guys

At least, I hope so.

[carmine crown]

I am just overprotective about it, please excuse me for earlier comments but do take them with fair bit of sarcasm

[idle remnant]

I get what USSP playerse went through

why I respect it somewhat.

[carmine crown]

Its abysmal

Camelot is constantly raided out of nowhere

You can try do something cool all round, random merc spawns in, decides they want to be a pirate, steal whatever because no door locks

I wish USSP still had dedicated slots and accesses to camelot to prevent that. Lorewise companification and rule change would suffice.

*or give us baikal back *

[graceful spear]

Sorry but its hard to resist pirating self claimed overseers (normal ones too)

and no, doors wouldnt save you

[thin marlin]

as said, give it time

minor factions are in the work last ive heard

[thin marlin]

will probably be done either tmr or saturday

[carmine crown]

Thats just cringe. I understand that its way easier than picking a fight with tsf or seccies.
But this gets old and boring, people are trying to make something cool, something that takes effort and dedication. Only logical retaliation to someone who just comes in and steals whatever because they know they wont have issues is to hunt them roundstart

And I dont think you will be particularry happy from getting your game screwed like that every damn time

I already got back at DoC that charged people with the same methods they used, and they cried a river in discord and got like 5 people jump out of nowhere and defend them (metabuddies i presume)

Bruh just, can people be modest and respectable please? Soulless edgelord "I am a pirate and I must frag" NPCs is so overused

[carmine crown]

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[tardy lily]

No baikal, new commielot

[tardy lily]

It will

I want USSP back like the next spacer but theres a good ammount of work to do

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[pulsar wagon]

Companies or soon to be minor factions or whatever should be fighting each other or have the dynamic of on/off conflict

You have LARP reasons to attack the USSP, which is valid. In the same way a USSP player could engage in anti-piracy actions or attack TSF

The whole Camelot issue is that we squat the place, and have 90% of the station looted 10 minutes in, my only company shift with USSP, I had the space Romania experience with my Remontnik losing all the mining lasers in the 30 seconds it took me to reach my shuttle I get why USSP players get pissed off about it

The new company POI, will hopefully fix a lot of these problems, everyone has their dedicated space

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[rain remnant]

🥹 🥺

[rain remnant]

🤓 🥹 🥺

do you even know what it replaced lmfao

[rain remnant]

just a week away

[rain remnant]

mate the altair replaced a sci voucher unique capital you need mats and hella resezrch for

BUDDY moment

also, will probably make the minor faction prs separately

and after my yml slop gets merged

[pulsar wagon]

That's what I don't understand, like what the issue is.
There's a lot of preconceived notions re: pirates I guess, it's been that way since ASR.

Honestly, I'm getting deja Vu now I'm thinking of ASR, same sort of strawman, but it was at least partly true at the time. I can't speak to what's happening now, but it sounds like it's improved

But yeah, the setting is that we are in the space equivalent of the Zone, all different fringe groups trapped together in space hell, conflict ensues.

[thin marlin]

Erm… ermm actiluaallly the colonel can buy a voucher shift start

[rain remnant]

same as the vizier

bub

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[thin marlin]

Vizier can buy a saintie voucher?

Huh

[rain remnant]

vizier STARTS with a saintie voucher

same as colonel with an altair voucher

[idle remnant]

The funniest shit is that it's not something a dev has to code. Anyone can do it

[rain remnant]

i am GETTING to it

[idle remnant]

What do you plan to do ? Make roles for the USSP specifically ?

[rain remnant]

minor factions in general

including ussp

[idle remnant]

That doesn't help much

You plan to code roles for every company ?

[pulsar wagon]

Yeah I'm not clear on how the roles are supposed to work

[carmine crown]

Then stop bitching and make your own station visible on the map, let us raid it every time you finish

[thin marlin]

I think its for the larger companies

Mainly

We are making a tierlist for the companies

[rain remnant]

yassir

and the larger ones

like rax

rsc

VG

and ussp for bow

now

[thin marlin]

Rax

[rain remnant]

people that have special gear and a reason to have a role

[idle remnant]

Kind of you to do it for them

[rain remnant]

yea

i just want to see it made and no one will do it otherwise

so

[idle remnant]

Yml wizard bound by moral chains

[idle remnant]

It should be up to the company members/owners ngl

[rain remnant]

truuuue

but ussp has been dead sprite and yml wise for a While

[idle remnant]

Maybe we should make it clear they can just PR a role

[carmine crown]

I was corrected right after the message you replied to, brotha, read first🙏
I malded, then I realised its voucher

[rain remnant]

i know i’m being evil

[grand bay]

aren't we waiting for the new POI to be finished for the roles

[rain remnant]

no

why would y’all

the only tjing it needs is a job proto

and a spawnpoint

[grand bay]

because that's where 90% of the blackmarket aligned factions are going

[rain remnant]

i czn just yml wizard my way i to adding the roles later

ya

but camelot can still work as ussp base

[rain remnant]

doesn’t matter

[grand bay]

yeah fair

[pulsar wagon]

My last message was lost to the void
I think, tying roles to the new POI makes sense as the dedicated company spawn

Not sure Camelot should remain if we are getting a space on the new POI

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[pulsar wagon]

As sad as that is for us old heads and company people

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[pulsar wagon]

The Company POI is going to be a madhouse
Putting all these opposing groups in one place, is going to be cinema

[thin marlin]

Pushing the new company players shift start with big leadys

[carmine crown]

Ofcourse you would say that but lets see what you will be typing here after you just get wiped 30 seconds into the round

[thin marlin]

My comically large seal clubbing stick

[carmine crown]

We already have the DoC that cried a river when same tactics as they practice were used on them

[thin marlin]

We dont talk about the moveable poi event…

[carmine crown]

We dont talk about cargo depot C part with cargo crate printer stolen

Nd definitely not hauled to a different cargo point

[thin marlin]

Camelot being shifted to md 15 minutes into a shift like a war moon

[carmine crown]

Wish🙏

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[fossil arrow]

Funny how most of the "its a dangerous sector" mfs bitch when the danger applies to them too, its almost like 90% of the people who make that argument think that only they are the danger (ie a weak-ass excuse to be a frag shitter)

[carmine crown]

🗣️ 🔥

Also, they are not the people who decide to help deal with major threats, they are not people capable or willing to put effort in anything but mindless fragging, they are not people who take actual hard, almost sisyphian tasks no matter the ods.

[fossil arrow]

It reminds me of a coment i saw, i forgot the original context but it pops into my mind when stuff like that happens "rats lived in a society of mice, thrived, now its a society of rats and the rats wonder why it can't be like the good old days"

[carmine crown]

I have seen only few interesting pirates, and instead of being characterless chuds here, they desperetly try keep up their reputation of concious people who bring more than just hostile npc to the game

Thats mainly those redsail fellas

[fossil arrow]

I'll admit those guys are based

[glass falcon]

I should try piracy and be nonsensical about, ie like give up your light bulbs or something idk

Like the other day, I put a prank hit on the bounty system for a courier being too silly

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[rain remnant]

raiders

usually

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[rain remnant]

or people coming for the vanyk

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[fossil arrow]

I mean i said most, if you aint doing that you aint doing that, i just said a lot of people use "its a dangerous sector" to lrp frag, its the intention behind it, piracy for the sake of rp is based, I'd say the main problem rn is the general opinion on piracy has been tainted by said ppl and hopefully ppl like you and rsc can turn it around

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[fossil arrow]

Based

[graceful spear]

i mean

its better to have "its a dangerous sector" type fraggers

than lawful sector hugboxers

i cant immerse myself in a shitty setting like frontier

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[graceful spear]

the idea that random 4x4 vessel can contain an entire boarding squad sended to rob you is so peak

you need to be cautious all the time

[dapper hornet]

i am dangerus sector hugboxer

[graceful spear]

You are just a psycho ICly

[dapper hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-cat-nuh-uh-cat-eating-tail-nuh-uh-cat-silly-cat-gif-4453530874984618110

[graceful spear]

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[rain remnant]

are you something fluffymoth?

[dapper hornet]

yes

Am I in trouble?

[tardy lily]

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[tardy lily]

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[pulsar wagon]

Ok gang
I have been asked to look into making roles for our transition to minor faction

I wanna check the vibe as to what people want, my current proposal is to revive some of the old roles, the current number is 2 normal, one command, I'm going to suggest:

• Rifleman
• maybe medic? I'm not keen on Efreighter, or however its spelt
• I think Serzhant fits as the command role, to show the lapse in senior command in the sector (Squad Leaders taking charge makes sense in my mind at least)

This may mean Civilian roles are dead for USSP, if you are playing USSP, you are an ex-soldier or a conscript enlisted in the sector

It's a bit up in the air, there will be guidelines on what's expected soon, so take all this with a grain of salt

Actually, Commissar makes more sense as the command role (one slot), Serzhant as the second normal role

Anyways, ideas guys do your thing

[rain remnant]

i think comissar and medic + rifleman would fir the best

like almost all the officers died

[pulsar wagon]

Probably the best way to do it
What's left, is a Commissar trying to herd Riflemen like cats

[rain remnant]

yass

[thin marlin]

honeslty not much to ideas guy from me

this is peak and about how i thought it would go best

i would say serzhant would be the better choice for the remaining command role

random ass officer left over

[pulsar wagon]

Just to add, I'm going to try expand the role loadouts a bit, likely some Merc drip for the most part, balaclavas, glasses, etc.
Drip or die

[thin marlin]

-# coughs add mime drip

-# and the vow implanter, trust

[glass falcon]

Indeed

[timber crescent]

we should make a USSP discord server to help activity

so that there can be planned times for everyone to get on

[main obsidian]

I'd be down for that

[pulsar wagon]

We probably should atp, the other minor factions are doing that
That's attempt number 2, those who know, know

[pulsar wagon]

Just as an aside
Please LARP, shit like this drags down reputation of the faction and the server
There's a reason Mono gets labelled as LRP/NRP

[flat lodge]

it grims

[main obsidian]

Camelot is just... Very mixed.

Some people actually want the rp, some just want to steal the multifabs and everything not nailed down from camelot and anything else nearby.

Which is sad days.

[glass falcon]

I do know..... guh...

[carmine crown]

Who the fuck is that even, I never saw them play before, thats some shit ass

[carmine crown]

St. Leintenant for head.

Serzhant for squad leaders.

Pehotinez for rifleman

Thats if you want to follow logical chain of command

If you want to add fucked up lore

Starshina - head, not an officer yet, but not a regular low rank. Litteraly left behind a day before his promotion to petty officer rank. In heavy booze binge trying his best to keep low ranks okay and prove himself he is worthy to be officer already.

Serzhant - squad leader.

Ryadovoy - rifleman.

Efreitor - whitelist only role for good behavior. (litteraly what it is irl)

No need for dedicated medic, let people pick their roles themselves

Just bring appropriate drip for them to be different visually

[main obsidian]

Kinda agree with the no dedicated medic since given how Camelot currently is everyone at least knows basic first aid but might be an idea to keep loadout specific for medical stuff to something like a slightly higher rank than rifleman

[rain remnant]

or

maube keep lieutenant

and just riflemen

would sell the all officers are dead idea

[carmine crown]

Lieutenant IS an officer

[rain remnant]

aside from one

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[carmine crown]

So, we are supposed to be facinated by common griefing?...

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[thin marlin]

April 1st…

[carmine crown]

Grief Vendor, Ship console, Servers and consoles with explosives
"Guys you dont understand, I am not a griefer!!! My roleplay is just so advanced you dont get it!!!!! You are just all want to hugbox and wrong!!!"

Lad, I understand you have just entered your 20s and teen edgeness havent left you yet, but cmon, this shit is comedic

[rain remnant]

elaborate

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[carmine crown]

Past them already sadly

But shit used to be fire

[timber crescent]

Camelot needs better security

lowkey somehow having the bridge bombed is a skill issue on our part

[fossil arrow]

was looking through the renders file and found this peace of nostalgia

[thin marlin]

Kinda hard to stop people bombing it when they have the same access, and we cant really setup turrets and whatnot

[timber crescent]

Idk one trigger happy guy on the gunnery console can solve the issue

[rain remnant]

baikal isso fuckingbig

[carmine crown]

Done so as well, spiraled into an hour of remembering every little detail about it, Baikal was too good, it was shot because of jealousy

[fossil arrow]

😭 i know, originally i just thought i was coping but nah, baikals straight up better in so many ways, especially for being shared with civs

Only downsides are a lack of cargo dock and cryogenics

Not to mention, only one small patch of kudzu, impossible to accidentally loose, even if you did there were airlocks that stopped the spread

meanwhile on camelot all it takes is 1 person brushing past this door to kudzu the entire station

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[glass falcon]

i miss baikal station....

[pulsar wagon]

Baikal🥹
It really lent itself well to that Civ oriented faction rep the we had
The middle of the station has public research and all the services (med, kitchen, bar). It all fits together pretty well.

The public research was major, I'd always see that storage room above it repurposed to a lathe room, people would donate mats to the silo, it was peak

Faction outposts, if/when they become a thing, should really be looking to Baikal for inspiration imo

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[thin marlin]

Crab

[rain remnant]

crobe

[timber crescent]

Well tbf Camelot bridge has the USSP console which people sort of just use

[pulsar wagon]

Uh, weird question
Anyone got a screenshot of the current USSP Remnant description on the company page?
I won't be at my computer until way later and I'd like to read it now if possible

[thin marlin]

Sure gimme 5 minutes

Once one of the dominant forces in the Colossus sector, the United Soviet Socialist Planets are a coalition of hard workers. Abused by their High Command
and left in the Colossus sector, remnants of this once-great faction must now fight for survival, either for themselves, their legacy, or their people. NOTE:
using this company does NOT make your character applicable to faction engagement rules - you must still follow ROE depending on your role.

[pulsar wagon]

Yeah... It may become irrelevant very quickly once we get roles in, but I have cooked something a little less slapdash and a bit more Sovlfvl

I will be back with my proposal later

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[carmine crown]

So you abused trust other people have built for cowardly grief? Thats pretty much what I have been bragging about here for a long time now

[timber crescent]

All USSP will be readded during April fools day so we need to lock in

Camelot will be 40km away where all the drones are so it’s free research points for us to turn Camelot into a station

Idea is we turn off the anchor then tug Camelot to central

https://github.com/Monolith-Station/Monolith/pull/3633#issuecomment-4163413717

Readds USSP roles

[carmine crown]

Hear me out, you can only purchase drone ships, and far reaches droneships are all mudskippers.

Also, every wreck and roind welded together into one giant ass roid

[dapper hornet]

Since when USSP trust RSC?

[thin marlin]

I trust everyone

Im just so kind

[carmine crown]

Camelot has no restrictions on access.

Pirates on this server do not designate themselves as such.
They wear same cloths as regular mercs and spacers, some even loot USSP gear to blend in.

The issue is, you cant definitely tell who is who and what intents they have. And people playing pirates actively abuse and exploit this. Take example of recent raiders. They joined as mercs on camelot, started rdming. Everyone were confused about who is friend and who is foe.

Difference between pirates here and actual raiders is the density of this shit occuring.

[dapper hornet]

Skill issue

[carmine crown]

"I lack counter argument that contributes to topic, but my insecurities dont let me just drop this"

[rain remnant]

skill issue

actually spacers join on Camelot and rdm

noob

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[graceful spear]

nah, there is no difference between corporational space station in secured sector and space middle east fr fr

[carmine crown]

Lmao if that aint what I just said? Yall bitch behind the metarules and KOS limit, act like civvies knowing full well you are not, you dont face the consequences of being pirates and abuse rules.

My IFF is always on, I dont hide, I get mald hitsquads after me, meta buddy gangs hating and slandering me

Guess my point is much simpler, dont play pirate if you play it like a coward

Cause pirates on mono? Fucking cringe, if there was KOS shared between rounds, yall would be put of server long ago

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[rain remnant]

🥺

[thin marlin]

make a mald thread please

cluttering up the company area

[glass falcon]

Indeed this the thread is for silly larp, discussing ships ideas and umm content, not back and forth raging over piracy

[idle remnant]

It's the living space of the nostalgic commie players my dawg

[pulsar wagon]

Real
Mald is for General chat

As an aside, I'm finished moving to my newly assigned Class II dwelling this weekend, and I have Monday off. I'll be working on shit again, current list is:

• Roles, Minor Faction guidelines are being cooked by Fluffen
• Updated Company info page is basically in first draft, main goal is LARP hooks and a clearer identity goal
• I was working on the Company research update, that fell into purgatory, basically need to redo as the branch I was working on is in the stone age

[idle remnant]

y'can talk about anything

it's general for commies

[glass falcon]

Most wonderful

Thanks john

[idle remnant]

USSP will live trust

[pulsar wagon]

Oh wait, I'm still doing my April Fools bit
Grumble grumble commies

[glass falcon]

Damn

[idle remnant]

I'm fully engaged in my april fools bit

USSP players are wonderful, cause no problem at all and we love them

we also totally plan to bring USSP back as a faction

(I'm jk you guys are fine)

[glass falcon]

I mean least we not tsf

[idle remnant]

Except that one guy who slithered his way into me discussing ship balancing and was half ranting in favor of his favorite group

[glass falcon]

God damn, congrats, you get feel like a foxhole developer.

[pulsar wagon]

We love em?
I'll send my Marines to glass Camelot, my marines locked me in my office and keep talking about this thing called payroll

So uh, they'll be there eventually

[glass falcon]

To this very day you be locked in that office

Trying to find this relic called 'payroll'

[pulsar wagon]

Well I have 2 options
MARSOC or pay my marines
I'm leaning towards MARSOC

[glass falcon]

Marsoc is like a green goblin mask, its calling you

https://tenor.com/view/green-goblin-green-goblin-mask-mask-scene-reject-urge-gif-2558149218007024011

[pulsar wagon]

At least they have STANDARDS AND DISCIPLINE
I keep telling my Marines this, but they keep saying lol and I can't eat Standards and Discipline

[glass falcon]

You know fair

[sour tapir]

You could try writing it in crayon, but they've probably eaten all of those

[carmine crown]

"I am unable to respond with arguments"

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[thin marlin]

Im gonna grab the broom

Shoo shoooo

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[thin marlin]

The same arguement has been going on for FOUR DAYS

Raaah!!!

Wait it mightve been three, four makes me sound better though

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[rain remnant]

67

[frigid hawk]

Hello . Is this the larp faction? This must be the larp faction judging by the exchange above

[glass falcon]

Probably, ello welcome to ussp channel

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[frigid hawk]

some are more larp than others

[grand bay]

it depends on who you interact with

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[rain remnant]

okay so

genuine issue USSP has

nothingburger

the suits are majorly recolored sec suits

the role icons are

literally sec

it doesn't feel complete in the slightest

[grand bay]

you mean actual suits/uniforms

their hardsuit lineup looks fine

[glass falcon]

Hmm the ussp modsuits are cool.

[thin marlin]

the modsuits are technically recoloured security ones

the scoutsuit, L-27 and the other two hardsuits are fine

[pulsar wagon]

That was the fundamental issue with the faction tbh
Gear is largely resprites as you say (I think this was the case with Paradises USSP), our mechanics are... Just cargo bounties I think, but anyone can do that on Camelot now
The ships are solid, well based on my neverplayer opinion

I just finished moving apartments today, so I'll be looking to start YAML/Lore slopping soon, I do have a plan for content... Although making hardsuits not slop isn't on my list because spriting
-# it would be nice if USSP had a spriting guy

[tardy lily]

@pulsar wagon i need you to tell me what you want in THIS area

Remapping camelot to be a PMC/company hub

and this is the area dedicated to USSP

Example of the RSC module

[grand bay]

so camelot is going to be the blackmarket POI ?

[tardy lily]

Sorta

[rain remnant]

ships are solid ye

[tardy lily]

part black market part company hub

basically

[grand bay]

is it gonna be the same place that houses RSC and such

[tardy lily]

a place for companies/PMCs to live or potentially work together

yee

[pulsar wagon]

Do you need specifics or just like, a list of things that should be there?

[tardy lily]

Just a list

of what USSP wants in there

the default is:

• research
• Armoury
• Refining/lathe room
• Crew quarters
• Cargo/micro shipyard

extras can be added or basic features removed

RSC has a micro bar/meeting room for example

[rain remnant]

if you guys become an actual thing content wise and with players we might give you Commielot

[tardy lily]

xir they are getting a part of commielot...

[rain remnant]

what if they had their OWN station

with blackjack

and hookers

[tardy lily]

mabye if they have a large portion of the playerbase

[pulsar wagon]

I got ya, I was going to list those but you got em covered
-# We'll need the USSP vend as well, although, we might move away from that at some point

I think, we could use:

• Maybe a small office for the commissar, when we get the roles in
• A briefing area (Lore I'm writing is firmly putting us in the military vibe again)
• Some kind of RP space like a bar would be nice, maybe a botany set up with a tray or 2, depending on the size, just exclusively potato seeds

Otherwise, I think the essentials are covered, everything else is for LARP/Sovl

[tardy lily]

gotcha

adding it onto the list

[pulsar wagon]

Oh
And the server needs to be USSP one for now
We'll need the Lathe for that as well

Preferably permanently anchored to prevent thievery... But I'll leave that up to you

[tardy lily]

Lathe yes, USSP server will be in the central module as a placeholder

i want to eventualy unify the research of all companies under 1 server

[thin marlin]

just a remark on the science module here, id say either push the room one tile down to remove the 2 blast doors for the artifact room, or just make the tile that the blast door is on a lattice tile and create armor between the thruster and room

[fossil arrow]

Been meaning to ask, what does the middle module look like? Is it a public space shared by all companies? Or is it just pure utility (like if it has a bar, kitchen, botany or something those things would be less important for the other modules)

[pulsar wagon]

That's a good point

[tardy lily]

Public/RP space for your generic merc and other companies

has:

• Research
• Bridge
• Power generation/distribution
• 2 cargo bays
• Medical
• Borany
• Bar/kitchen
• Disposals
• Jani room
• generic shipyard for normal/exped ships
• All the vends that base camelot has

[fossil arrow]

Does it have a scrapyard?

[tardy lily]

yes

behind a hidden door

[fossil arrow]

YES!

[tardy lily]

basically the main one has everything important in it as default

[pulsar wagon]

Sovlful🥹

[tardy lily]

with the caviat that everything is bigger/more advanced

for example: Research for example is bigger and has more features compared to the RSC resaerch

[idle remnant]

Ay my research going in the thruster

[tardy lily]

[pulsar wagon]

So public research is contributing to a shared USSP server (which will eventually be a universal Minor Faction server)?

[tardy lily]

aye

with some coding i can eventually split it into 2 tech trees

1 global one

and 1 private one

[grand bay]

are you coming back @supple matrix

🥹

[supple matrix]

erm wrong chat

methinks

[tardy lily]

Have a look on how tech/research works in Terra invicta

[supple matrix]

yeah im coming to home soon

[pulsar wagon]

So we'll eventually be subdivided into our own research paths
Based

[tardy lily]

basically

in the global one the entire Station advances as a whole

for example

Each faction contributes to the tech named: Advanced industry

once its researched

multiple new techs open up in the private tech tree for the factions to research

lets say

RSC gets advanced breaching tools

USSP could get better ore refining

Viper could get better thrusters/gyros

MAWC would get more advanced versions of theyr machines, allowing them to produce more advanced comps/guns to sell to others

While everyone would get the advanced tools as a start (aka power drill, experimental welder, jaws of life)

[glass falcon]

A base for all these groups, most having no love for tsf or pdv..... functioning like a dysfunctional syndicate....
Welcome back syndies

[pulsar wagon]

Looks the the new faction is the USSPVGRSC
But fr, this is all pretty good stuff

[fossil arrow]

Damn, when you put it like that it makes me wish mercs could have the old asr drip, i miss those jumpsuits, so much sovl

[glass falcon]

Ikr, but still I do like this idea

[grand bay]

UnitedSovietGroupCorsairs

[thin marlin]

holy shit we have just reinvented the syndicate

[timber crescent]

what if USSP and RSC gets into shootouts

[glass falcon]

that is just average tuesday

[tardy lily]

RSC has a good ammount of lore..

Durstblut has been our loreslave from the start

[dapper hornet]

that room with 3 beds, is that a snuggle room?

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[thin marlin]

Yes, it is the VG and RSC snuggle room

Lies

Theyre both red

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[thin marlin]

Do you sleep in the centre or on the outside of the snuggle pile?

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[glass falcon]

ah the real question are you the right kind of commie, a totally normal question that never ever..... ever lead to infighting and drama.

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[glass falcon]

lmao

[tardy lily]

very barebones layout for USSP

there are still many things subject to change

[frigid hawk]

what suits are the worst offenders
i coooouuuuld pooossibly try to redraw some but i dont know which style i would have to stray from and which to pursue instead

[thin marlin]

Zastavnik modsuit and the varyag modsuit

[pulsar wagon]

Real?
Yeah what Bot said
I was actually having a think about that funnily enough, I was thinking something like the Marathon Security officer would be kino

The helmet is very distinct, I think most hard suits kinda opt for slim/sleek looks, where USSP suits should look sorta bulky but still practical

[thin marlin]

Honestly i think the zastavnik should just be made into a regular hardsuit

[rain remnant]

where’s this from

[pulsar wagon]

I just googled Marathon Security Officer and this came up
Apparently it's the Main Character of the trilogy
I only know the Marathon security stuff through Halo

[idle remnant]

MARATHON

OOOOOOOOOOORAAAAAh

https://tenor.com/view/marathon-2-durandal-marathon-bungie-marathon-durandal-marathon-shotgun-gif-18355177527871906496

[frigid hawk]

yeah looks interesting

trying to make something bulky yet at the same time not (due to being modsuits) will be Very interesting

[frigid hawk]

this could replace the varyag since i presume the zastavnik to be the heavier suit

[frigid hawk]

what in the world is the parade suit

it looks so silly

🐘

the singular uncovered skin pixel

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[thin marlin]

Gear sprites are fine, its literally just the modsuits

[grand bay]

Do the modsuits look good ?

I only know how the non-modsuits look like cause I find modsuits somewhat Icky

[frigid hawk]

the normal hardsuits do look fine

i've checked what modsuits look like in ss13 and the ussp modsuits really are just

greener security suits

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[thin marlin]

Change was ultimately requested by @rain remnant

[rain remnant]

oh that wasn't a request really it was just it felt like sec reskinned

which is what it was

[thin marlin]

Oh word

It is quite literally recoloured sec suits anyway

[prime garnet]

First experience with a, allegeable, USSP member.

He was on a Mudskipper doing piracy, and I was the one in a USSP ship

[thin marlin]

using a mudskipper

fake USSP

[fossil arrow]

cant even get a mudskipper on camelot, 100% fake

[glass falcon]

does not uses a ussp ship to raid, so therefore, faker

so with this announcement, who lookin to be the leader of ussp?

[thin marlin]

note the whitelisted company

unless we want to move to whitelisted company?

but i dont think doing so would be best

[glass falcon]

fair

[frigid hawk]

a whitelist would somewhat interfere with whatever the 'ussp' pirate is doing
though yeah a whitelist for a faction that is supposed to be the people's front is kind of icky

sum slight

think it looks pretty close to the reference mjolnir recon armor

taking the pallete from the tacsuit for the armor plates

[main obsidian]

Could do a split or a blacklist system, split being USSP gets split into two where people I watched to see if they can offically join the USSP and the blacklist being where if they do un-USSP like behavior they can no longer join the USSP or something

Idk I dunno how things work

[timber crescent]

Starscape mining ship mention

Also whitelisted faction would be cool

no more “WHO LET THE TERRORIST BLOW UP THR CAMELOT SERVER”

More giant USSP fleets

[leaden sparrow]

have being the common soldier be anyone not on the whitelist so they can still join and anyone higher rank will be on the whitelist

[timber crescent]

yeah that

and we should try to get any in game players to join the discord

for maximum planning and trolling

[pulsar wagon]

HOLY BASED
I like this, suit looks good and follows our current colouring
It hits that retro futuristic vibe pretty well
And the helmet visor is fire
It's got character and sovl

If we were to do new hard suits, I reckon we just touch-up our current lineup instead of adding more
-# Hardsuit bloat is real

[prime garnet]

Bloat is fake news

[pulsar wagon]

As an aside, here's my current proposed company description
Will likely change a bit, but I'm keen to reframe the Remnants and give some more identity and LARP hooks

*The USSP Remnants are the surviving elements of the 78th Expeditionary Fleet and its attached 13th Red Banner Naval Infantry Battalion. Once tasked with securing the Colossus Sector under Operation Roundtable, the expeditionary fleet was shattered by an unexpected withdrawal order, with much of it lost in the retreat through drone-held space.

Cut off from their distant home and left without further orders from USSP Naval Command, the survivors now endure in isolation. The Naval Infantry, burdened by sustained losses and threadbare leadership, remain a battle-tested but increasingly strained force. Their former stronghold of Camelot is frequently contested, its bones picked over by industrious mercenaries.

Held together by camaraderie, pride, and the stubborn belief that their sacrifice must still have meaning, the Remnants now fight to preserve what remains, with some refusing to believe that their mission is over and holding fast to the hope that one day the Union will return.*

The Naval Infantry are effectively the Marines of the USSP, considered to be a more elite force to the regular army and Navy, focussed more on space combat, boarding actions, piloting shuttles, guarding stations, etc.

The roles (when those become a thing), Rifleman, Serzhant, etc. will be the Naval Infantry

Oh and the batallion motto is
First Among Equals

[frigid hawk]

awesome

[main obsidian]

Does look great

[frigid hawk]

regarding the faction content i had a thought that with the predicament that the ussp forces in monolith found themselves in it could make sense for them to try to develop equipment that would prioritize individual survivability

not sure whatever that would be but it's just a general idea

[glass falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[leaden sparrow]

communists being a situation where they prioritize individuality is quite funny

[frigid hawk]

its more so about conserving manpower

you don't want to run out of soldiers when the resupply chain is no longer existing

it is in a way ironic

[leaden sparrow]

im not saying its an unlikely or illogical situation, just an ironic one but in an amusing way

meant it as a positive thing ❤️

[pulsar wagon]

Well this is the interesting angle with Remnants

A professional group of Soldiers, who spent the past however long throwing everything and the kitchen sink at trying to secure Colossus, suddenly wake from cryo one day to find everything is basically looted and gone
Or, even worse, they lived through losing to a bunch of drones

The question becomes What now?
That's why I'm focussing on background rather than direction, I want to see how players use it (if at all) and how things with new Camelot play out (Merc/Minor Faction POI)

[main obsidian]

I mean if you are low on manpower your tech will like gravitate towards keeping who you have left still alive

[leaden sparrow]

absolutely

[main obsidian]

Not just saying that because I want to make a walking tank XD

[leaden sparrow]

it can be both lmao

[frigid hawk]

yeah there still should be freedom as to how the sparse groups that are left will treat the situation

[main obsidian]

It's why I like the USSP. The theme is relentlessly indusrialistic communists. It makes sense for their gear to be rugged and protective. Tech might not be the fanciest but sure as hell will be the longest lasting

[pulsar wagon]

And this becomes a thing when Roles are added
You might want that gear for survivability, meanwhile the politically indoctrinated Commissar:
WHY ARE YOU OUT OF UNIFORM SOLDIER

Just in terms of lore stuff, I'm cooking:

• An SOP (Pre remnant, just the general SOP)
• The little red book for the USSP, working title is The Common Cause

[main obsidian]

Nice Fallout ref and nice lore

[frigid hawk]

yesss the monolith communist manifesto

[main obsidian]

We going to go out and find space Marx lads

[pulsar wagon]

Just coming back to this because I missed it...
But yeah
USSP WL is probably not the way to go currently, not unless:

• It becomes necessary to preserve LARP/PQ
• We get some leadership and actual WL criteria

I don't think WL is a bad thing necessarily, I think RSC/VG seem to be using it to good effect.

But as things are, I just don't see people wanting it, not until we give them a Reason to want it

[grand bay]

WL for USSP would be more so a player quality check than anything else

[pulsar wagon]

Well I know that's how you guys use it
But VG has some level of coordination, we don't, not yet at least
But, I do see that happening for us eventually... As I look at things, I feel like it's needed and wanted
Events, good PQ, new content (even if it's reskins of existing stuff), proper lore, all stuff that will get us into a better position

[graceful spear]

Grab trusted players, make them commisars and let them organise ussp larpers

trust

[thin marlin]

i like ussp remaining unwhitelisted

whitelists overall kill my enjoyment for a role

[pulsar wagon]

That's one of the plans I had, a lead by example approach

Maybe Commissar could be WL'd, as they would be political officers and enforcers of command and discipline

But uh, not my decision to make. I ain't in charge. I just make suggestions I think are in our interest

[timber crescent]

https://www.paradisestation.org/wiki/index.php?title=Union_of_Soviet_Socialist_Planets

USSP history/military structure

[fossil arrow]

Imo whitelist companies give of too many meta clique vibes for me, like "hey guys lets make a private discord for our special private group just for us" its just, ugh (no offense to vg and rsc though)

[timber crescent]

Commissar is there to go “NOT A STEP BACK”

and make political decision

[timber crescent]

I think we can be whitelisted if we make the requirements of joining as an average soldier easy and laxed

Or just make upper ranks whitelisted

[thin marlin]

i just personally dont like whitelists, if theres a whitelist to a role i want to play i just never do it

[timber crescent]

We really just need a discord to organize times where everyone could collectively get on

Because activity

[frigid hawk]

yeah it feels too bureaucratic or something

[timber crescent]

Does whitelist prevent people from joining as the company

I thought it was just needed for a discord

[pulsar wagon]

RSC does this to my knowledge
You kind of, audition IC
Which is the best way to do it imo, because it feels organic and LARPFUL

But this is very much what if

[thin marlin]

yes, as far as i know

[frigid hawk]

maybe it'll actually be fine if the 'whitelist' is just a vague "Cool guy" badge

[pulsar wagon]

Yup
One of us would have to use a command in game

[timber crescent]

Also the problem in game is that it’s hard to distinguish who is USSP on Camelot

[frigid hawk]

that is true

[grand bay]

i think the company owners thing supports multiple players

[fossil arrow]

Ikr like at the end of the day its just a role in a video game, it shouldn't be some kind of like... special club that follows you outside the game that you have to apply for like a job (thats why i dont like whitelisted roles in general tbh like what DV does), like, its only game

Also kinda why i avoid hrp

I might be a no life loser but im not that much of a no life loser

[pulsar wagon]

I should highlight:
currently, there are no plans to make us WL, very much ideasguying

I think, getting some of the changes in game, like the Company Page update, roles and more lore stuff, and seeing what results from it, is the best approach

[grand bay]

whitelist can range from having to fill out a whole .pdf to just asking if you want it to

[glass falcon]

True is just a discussion at this point

[frigid hawk]

tldr We'll see when we get there

[glass falcon]

As of right now no one really as taken the reins of ussp, not after nick left

[frigid hawk]

ussp... run by a Soviet....

I don't really think we need someone to 'take over'

atleast not yet

[glass falcon]

Rather be run like a committe

[pulsar wagon]

Being frank, I think we kind of universally agree it would not have went well
I was really not keen on that direction personally (ie Nick)

But I guess the issue is now, we have nothing really to grasp onto in terms of direction

My own thoughts are, establish the base lore, get Roles in game as a minor faction and let the Commissars drive the USSP in game, like it was back as a faction. Internal conflict can arise if a USSPirate shows up, because the Commissar will think:

• they are shaming the Battalion
• they are shaming the Military
• they are shaming the State

[frigid hawk]

yeah

[glass falcon]

Yes

[main obsidian]

Actually that does kind of sound cool

Leave it completely un whitelisted but allow the intra-faction conflict as some break the codes

[glass falcon]

I like that, be larping like the Soviets in the historical fiction flick, death of stalin

[pulsar wagon]

It's why I wanted a briefing room on the new POI

[glass falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/death-of-stalin-vodka-ussr-stalin-gif-22621665

[timber crescent]

There should be more ship vouchers round start for USSP

So that they can have a completely cashless society

As USSP is the only faction with printable vouchers for every ship in their faction

So instead of buying ships USSP manufactures ships

Meanwhile credits are mainly used for trade with other factions

[pulsar wagon]

I do think, becoming a Minor Faction opens up the possibility of having gameplay loops specific to the USSP
Having mechanics focussed more on building ships rather than buying them is pretty on point.

Definitely think roles should have a basic USSP ship voucher when they spawn in... Assuming it's not abused in some way

I've also been thinking, what if...
USSP Spetsnaz, admeme role, or have it that repairing a Comm Relay POI spawns them in. The lore I'm cooking has them currently called the Directorate of Special Tasks USSP-DST
A lotta what if, but I think it's neat

[rain remnant]

me when ussp haq the potential of becoming a REAL FACTION again

[pulsar wagon]

Me when sad reality
WYCI says the Maint
Lmao says the senior contrib

[rain remnant]

fuh naw says the seniormins

[main obsidian]

There is a simple solution to this. When portstrike happens take over both Halcyon orHelos. Chances are we'll end up out numbering them anyway

[prime garnet]

So, out of curiosity, what happened to the USSP? I heard it was a faction, then it isn't, then it became a company, but you guys talk as if it's basically dead?

what happens?

[pulsar wagon]

Story time, gather round the fire comrades...

So, USSP started life as a third faction against Rogues/ASR and the TSF, early few rounds saw the highest player count and interest

Overtime, USSP slowly faded into the background, it became a third party in the faction war with usually a lower player count and a lack of content support beyond ships. We earned the rep as the civ oriented LARP faction

Eventually, it came to a poll, literally 50/50 split
USSP was then demoted to a company, became the Remnants... Then came the dark days

USSP, lost things like Comms. The Merc loadout stuff and readding Comms was me
Overtime, we had a bit of a resurgence, but that came and went (RIP OldMan and Ace)

So now, we are kinda adrift, a lot of USSPirates and all kind of FRP

There's still a lot of interest though, relative to most Companies tbh

I'm hoping the Minor Faction roles, new lore I'm cooking and some new/refreshed content will give us a lifeline

TLDR: USSP is a potential burger

[prime garnet]

That probably explains the Pirate. Also, readding Comms?

[pulsar wagon]

So know how we have dedicated USSP Comms the headset/encryption key?

When we were demoted to company, we lost that, and a lot of stuff like ship accesses (which is fixed I think?)

We are the only company with dedicated Comms afaik

[thin marlin]

Mmmmm burger…

[glass falcon]

Ship access was fix last month ago if I recall (thank fuck)

[timber crescent]

all USSP players need to find a time to all log on and lock in on Camelot

[pulsar wagon]

We probably ought to make a couple more Camelot moments until it gets mothballed

I did the same when our time as a faction was coming to an end, there was some pretty funny moments

I'm not sure what my availability is like this weekend (or if my WiFi will even be sorted by then), but just to throw out a day... Saturday? Kinda want to get coverage for a full shift if we want presence

[thin marlin]

I can prolly make a saturday

[frigid hawk]

heavily dependant on timezone

[pulsar wagon]

Are we majority US or EU?

Ideally, we could try line it up at a round restart that suits most.

Not necessary really, I can't imagine people will do a whole 6 hours... Ok they might, I used to at least

This might be where a discord would help

[frigid hawk]

dont know much of anything about other people here but im closer to eu

[tardy lily]

Russian.

[rain remnant]

and turk

[tardy lily]

https://tenor.com/view/tag-turkish-car-happy-dance-gif-17367602

[crimson lotus]

How do you join?
Just pick company in char menu and that’s it, or is there any separate discord/app/whatever?

[glass falcon]

Literally pick company from character creation, we are not a whitelisted company

[crimson lotus]

Thanks, I will join sometime next round :))

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[fossil arrow]

Fair

[pulsar wagon]

The bossman finally let you out of the Deadzone, welcome back
Lowkey, I am planning long term to take that on, if people want me to do that or if no one else wants to take that on.

And I am working on various bits towards that, I have my first lore PR ready to submit, I've started looking into getting roles back up (like the actual YAML) and I'm actually in a position where I can play again

Basically, I kinda want to prove that if people want me as the leader, that I can do a good job at it.
I keep having these Life of Brian moments

[rain remnant]

ur the leader

uncontested

the other chuds malded so hard they left for a nothingburger faction

[timber crescent]

A lot of USSP players forget to take USSP comms in loadouts

Or forget to choose nova as a language

[pulsar wagon]

Tbf, I think I only added the headset itself in loadouts
And I think most species need the Foreigner trait if they want to speak Nova
Roles will make this a non-problem... Roles are gonna be kino tbh

[frigid hawk]

most species? like the ones with their own speclanguages?

i played as a tajaran and i was able to pick nova as a third language without needing the trait

[pulsar wagon]

They do?
Maybe I'm being dumb
That's probably the most likely answer

[timber crescent]

we should lock nova to USSP company

Or roles

imo it’s kind of weird that no one knows how to speak sol

Or whatever PDV speaks

[glass falcon]

I mean yea in terms of leadership its either you or somehow myself though I just do maintaince of Camelot or do sci, rarely I do ops against whomever deserves it.

[frigid hawk]

oh so they just get faction specific languages

I don't think locking languages for factions to be the most sensical decision outside of just pvp comm interception

[grand bay]

are you the engineering moth

[pulsar wagon]

leader might be the wrong word, it's really a committee like you said before
I think having Lav for events would be fun, people know the Moth all the way back from the faction days
I'm going to show up Saturday as a random chud that hasn't gamed in months
It's very much a collective effort if we want USSP to be kino

[glass falcon]

I am the best engineering moff around..... do ignore the incident in the olden days of Camelot... lav is not safe with science in those days

That Arti kept feeding that fire

[glass falcon]

Eyyy stamp update

[timber crescent]

We should plan a time for USSP enjoyers to get on

[pulsar wagon]

Absolutely, assuming I did this right,I was going to suggest the round restart at around <t:1775922300:t>

How does that work for people? It'll be in the evening/late evening in the EU, around lunchtime in the US

Saturday of course

[tardy lily]

Time to participate in glorious USSP vs RSC combat

[frigid hawk]

it should be fine i think for the first half of the round

[pulsar wagon]

Ditto, not sure if I have a full 6 hours
But even just to get the whole gang together in-game, it would be peak🥹

Oh here's my bandaid for the Company description, this is what I settled on in the end

https://github.com/Monolith-Station/Monolith/pull/3738

[rain remnant]

cinema

[pulsar wagon]

We were like, one of 3 maybe 4 companies to not have a picture in the description for some reason
I think Fluffen reviews lore changes now

I have begun looking at roles, PDAs are first on my list

There's some cool shiptest ones I'll be chopping and changing to make commie coded

[rain remnant]

would they fit with our current pdas v

[pulsar wagon]

Oh and the roles will be:

• Rifleman
• Serzhant
• Commissar

They are keeping their OG titles, but I am thinking of adding some more QoL gear and drip over from Merc. I think the camo jumpsuits fit for Rifleman for example

[rain remnant]

that’s fair

3 instead of 4

that’ll turn it into a faction

imo

[pulsar wagon]

It is literally gonna be resprites, but I'll try make em distinct

[tardy lily]

Also you caan upgun/uparmour the ships a bit if it means only USSP will be abile to buy them

[rain remnant]

that’s turning em into a faction

which could work

[pulsar wagon]

Most Shiptest...
Wait
That's after prompting me, I was thinking the other night, are we keeping USSP shipyard public?

[tardy lily]

A minor faction

[rain remnant]

[rain remnant]

no

company ships are separated

Vg ships belong to vg

so on

so forth

[thin marlin]

ouuugh....

[pulsar wagon]

Yes sir, another layer of plastitanium please

But yeah, if USSP ships/gear are gonna be exclusive, I could roll back the Merc loadout stuff I added when roles are in

And the access changes on the ships

[tardy lily]

Commielot remap first

[pulsar wagon]

Yeah that

[tardy lily]

So that you can mod it to your liking

• add roles n shi

[pulsar wagon]

Yeah, it gives me more time to cook tbh

Ideally, if I could group a lot of smaller changes on my list into the role PR, getting it all out the door at once should give some hype

Here's my current list:

• Company description (awaiting review)
• Roles (started)
• more guidebook lore (cooking)
• USSP little red book, Naval Infantry SOP (In game lore trinkets for roles, writing lore for this)
• Banner (I was asked for this, I haven't looked it yet)
• Research (on hold until we figure out Minor faction research)
• USSP Discord

After that, we will be in the realm of NEW CONTENT
But my list is just essentials currently

[tardy lily]

I still need to add RSC hardsuits, do the job roles

With commielot

[pulsar wagon]

... I was hoping you'd say that
We are simply, showing a proof of concept with Minor Faction roles
The role spawns for mapping, should remain the same anyways, I'll check when I'm back from work

[tardy lily]

Everything is already IN the spawn menu

Just the reskins n shi needed

[pulsar wagon]

Got ya
I'll have a better idea of what needs work when I have it in front of me
It won't be much tbh

[prime garnet]

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