Remove the bounties channel

[proper saffron]

I feel the bounties channel is pretty much just pay to win suggestions. One guy could suggested the worst possible thing but because he put alot of money on it it gets added. And they often take priority over the suggestions.

[twilit tundra]

Bounty =/= approval

[proper saffron]

this is true but alot of things make it through more cause of the money then them actually being good ideas

[twilit tundra]

That’s more of a problem with maintainers who take bad bounties

I’m not sure about bad bounty PRs being merged in the past (cough honkmother)

[proper saffron]

then maybe like

make a higher up have to verify it before it gets added?

dunno if they got time for that doe

[twilit tundra]

uh, that’s what maintainers are for - starch is the real higher up but he does a lot of this too

[proper saffron]

uhhh

is there no one like

[twilit tundra]

I say “a lot” but at most I mean like, once or twice

[proper saffron]

below main dev and above maints?

[twilit tundra]

what

there’s players, contributors, maintainers, and headmaint

[proper saffron]

wha about admin?

or is that just for teh discord?

[twilit tundra]

Admins moderate the active server

maintainers moderate the repo

[proper saffron]

i see

hmm

[wind vigil]

yeah what orange wrench said

[lament patio]

Being able to just bribe someone into getting your shit into the build is funny as hell though

[deft wigeon]

well yes that is how ss14 maints usually operate

[junior hill]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1350989567540592723/1416181305078579382/togif.gif

[wraith reef]

Seems very much like a case of poor moderation and oversight of said issue pr’s if that’s the case above the point being made. I’d say talk to some of the heads regarding the issues you and; are able to present factual evidence and trend towards this.

No need to remove bounties.

[dusty grove]

working as intended

starch should take 5 percent tax off each bounty

make this server turn a profit

[worldly estuary]

is there a specific bounty your vagueposting about?

[proper saffron]

not rewally just over all

im mostly just upset they take priority over suggestions

[twilit tundra]

because people are paying for em I guess

Suggestions is basically ideasguy thread, if you really really want to make a change make it yourself

[worldly estuary]

i thought you meant like "i hate this one persons bounties in particular for being dumb"

[proper saffron]

nah i just hate that suggestions are pretty much ignored even when theyre often better then bounties

[twilit tundra]

okay but… ideas aren’t incentive enough for most people

I do think bounties are dubious

It’s just, the alternative is just being an ideasguy and unless you have a means to do it yourself nobody really has a reason to do it for you specifically

[proper saffron]

yeah but there are tons of suggestions with tons of agrees so its clear a large portion of the playerbase wants it

i feel its kinda senseless to focus on what one person wants rather then waht multiple want

[twilit tundra]

Maints have other concerns too

Just because a post gets a bunch of nameless upvotes doesn’t make us obligated to implement it

[proper saffron]

not obligated no but ive seen only one single suggestion get added

[dusty grove]

i think youre just mad theres a 3000$ dune server bounty and you aint got the skillsets to claim a piece of it

[proper saffron]

Honestly id make a dune server for free if i could

That shit would be peak

[dusty grove]

WERE WORKING ON IT

[proper saffron]

@ me if you manage to do it

[wind vigil]

its already nearly reached its early launch it just needs the simplest of assets

[dusty grove]

if only the spriters could get to work

[azure rapids]

even if for some reason we removed it what do you think would happen

people just stop paying for changes?

no, they'd move

offer in general chat for instance

[twilit tundra]

and that’s because no one has decided to go out of their way to fulfill someone else’s idea

[proper saffron]

No, thats because the maints (the people who are suppose to make a game people enjoy) dont want to add the things that multiple people would enjoy

theyre fine with doing someone elses idea if its for money

[twilit tundra]

I guess that’s encouragement and that’s always going to be preferable (we’re working for free here, that shit don’t pay the bills)

It’s not against the idea (most of the time assuming it isn’t a shit idea) it’s the fact that we have other things that need to be done (fixing balance, fixing lag, adding major content, etc)

[proper saffron]

we really dont need more major content

there is already so much, and adding more would just cause lag

[twilit tundra]

If there’s an idea you want implemented and the community agrees with you so much, then why has no one else PRed it

[twilit tundra]

This isn’t the point, read the other things in the small example list

[proper saffron]

Because most of the community doesnt know how too PR

[proper saffron]

and half of teh suggestiosn are ways to FIX ballance

[twilit tundra]

Not this one

[twilit tundra]

They should maybe learn that, this is an open source project and maintainer’s main responsibility is keeping the repo functional and the game playable

[proper saffron]

i said half

[twilit tundra]

Yes, community might agree on some (possibly extremely vague) suggestion, but again, even if it is a good idea (which is a 50/50 between good or bad), maintainers still aren’t obligated to immediately PR whatever ideasguy post gets 10 upvotes

[proper saffron]

well id say its rather functional rn andthe main reason the game isnt playable is cause of lag and balancing issues which, once again, suggestions have ways to fix

[proper saffron]

once again i never said obligated

[twilit tundra]

Okay, but this isn’t reinforcing the idea that bounties should be deleted

It’s an outlet for people who would do it anyway, and though it might encourage pay-to-implement behavior (which I’m not too big of a fan of) it’s still worth having it

This discussion is becoming more of an argument from what I can tell, and one not really related to the original post, so if there isn’t going to be more discussion aside from “maints need to add things” I’m going to lock this post

[tulip ruin]

HERE COMES THE MONEEEEEEY

MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY

DOLLA DOLLA DOLLA DOLLA DOLLA DOLLA DOLLA DOLLA DOLLA

[worldly estuary]

suprise suprise people like to do paid work more than unpaid work

[tulip ruin]

this is OOC to the game

btw

and its a business

this is like

youre like

*burp

[dusty grove]

except for dune we have some people that turned down money because haha sand in ass cheeks go brrt

[twilit tundra]

can you please stop turning everything into a dune server promo? It’s largely unrelated to discussion outside of the fact that it uses payment as incentive

[proper saffron]

was waiting for someone to say that lmao

[dusty grove]

that 3k bounty is more than all the other bounties combined, if you think about it the channel is basically made for us

[proper saffron]

dawg shut UPPP

[dusty grove]

brb getting on alts to downvote this thread

[proper saffron]

lmao

[twilit tundra]

I am so tired of his bs

Maybe not the most professional thing to do but I’ve had enough

[proper saffron]

nah man i fully agree

the 15 minutes of fame got to him

[dusty grove]

like the 15 downvotes this thread has

[proper saffron]

oh noooo people disagree with my opiniooooon oh noooo

[twilit tundra]

Turk, genuinely please shut up with the dune server shinanigans in completely unrelated channels

[dusty grove]

its a bounty in a bounty channel its valid

[dusty grove]

no one agrees with it either

[proper saffron]

oh nooooooooooooooo

i guess ill just go cry 😔

[dusty grove]

call me if you wana snuggle while you do it

[proper saffron]

cant believe people dont agree with my opinion on a ss14 server 😔

[proper saffron]

no thx i got a bf

[maiden vapor]

If a shit bounty is made, 9 times out of 10 someone will make a bounty to revert it

the last one is a maintainer sends a hitman to the persons door

[dusty grove]

infinite money printer

[maiden vapor]

When BSO was nerfed on goob it became a giant moneypot of bounties

(they were abysmal dogshit and overall bad)

[dusty grove]

so thats how durk affords the server

[maiden vapor]

yeah

I mean im leading the charge for Werewolves right now on Goob

[dusty grove]

wat

theres werewolves?

[maiden vapor]

not yet

[dusty grove]

yet?

fuckin goob

[maiden vapor]

but im having some talented people work on it

[dusty grove]

zero restraint

random idea generator into PR

[maiden vapor]

yes

[dusty grove]

i wish i could get the same amount of talented people to work on my server

[maiden vapor]

you need a little thing I call "Monetary Inspiration"

[dusty grove]

BRO is 3000$ not enough?

[maiden vapor]

depends who you ask

[dusty grove]

fuckin 3k bounty and people be like, nah thats not enough

everyone want amazon wages

[maiden vapor]

Werewolves was worth like, 300

actually 11

100

dolar

so

[dusty grove]

so 3k should get me 30 werewolves worth of development

[proper saffron]

chat the maints literally said stop turning everything into a server promo for u

[dusty grove]

this is recruiting

and fuck the maints holding desert planet hostage for 25$ paypal

[twilit tundra]

you realize its satire right

and in anycase, please stop bringing in other topics to specific topic channels

[dusty grove]

i believe in the narrative i choose to believe