Suggestions to fight shitters

[quaint cradle]

The amount of shitters as of late has made playing the game quite annoying. I love Monolith quite a lot but its almost impossible to play when a USSP comes up out of no where and rams a bunch of civvies, RRing them. Or when someone wakes up and spams chat is slurs because there's nothing stopping any rando from hopping on the server.

So, I've compiled a list of suggestion to help solve this issue

1. Whitelist to join
   Its very affective, and I feel is a good way to make sure people who have no idea how to play the game don't come here first, as it is pretty hard for new SS14 players.

2. A second server with a bunker
   A second server with a 3 round bunker (24 hours) wouldn't stop all shitters, but it most definitely thin the herd.

3. Disable shuttle ramming
   While it would be less realistic, it would ultimately stop the shitters who make the game unplayable. This could also be done in a secondary server.

4. A filter
   A filter, similar to how Resomi will sometimes bawk if they say silly too much, but it will ban a player for saying slurs.

[brittle escarp]

fuck no to the 3rd part

litteraly makes ledokol fucking useless

makes the only other form of combat noneexistant

makes shipguns even more relied on

reduces boarding effectiveness

im only this one cuz of the 3rd suggestion

also were not hardlight why do we need a whitelist

[quaint cradle]

to help prevent shitters and cause its pretty confusing for new players

[tight scarab]

Fuck no to everything.
Whitelist is just a brown nosing tax that creates an echo chamber out of a community. If this server every becomes whitelisted I am immediately outta here.
Bunker is the most annoying shit of all time that just punishes everyone who isn't a regular for something they had nothing to do with. A week ago I got someone else to play this but bunker said no, so I ended up waiting several days until that person had time again.
Ramming is one of the most fun mechanics in the game and it definitely shouldn't be removed because of a handful of raiders.
Filters will just get bypassed by using l33t symbols, like they always are. Besides, if you are still offended by assholes using bad words specifically to offend you, maybe you should remember the first rule of dealing with a troll.

[mellow mortar]

whats the thing about resomis saying "silly" ???

[trail stratus]

Fucking no whitelist

Worst suggestion ever

[quaint cradle]

It is clear you guys did not read the full thing, as multiple of the things you guys are talking about disliking I say we do in a seperate server, along with this it is pretty clear not all are meant to be added, more just some suggestions to start a conversation.

[dusky light]

Having more that one server when the single server that's up sits around half pop most the time doesn't seem like it would do anything. I can go on the server with everyone or on the server with silent grinders that's whitelist or bunker.

Number 4 is just a wyci situation. Upstream would want something like that. There would be ways to get around it but it would catch most people who are just say it while not raiding.

Why do 3? Shuttle ramming is fun and without it people are just going to shoot instead of ram

[quaint cradle]

once again, theyre mostly to start a conversation about solutions

and i rarely see mono at half pop

and i dont know why people are so against shooting instead of ramming

plus i agree, ramming is fun

but im lowk pretty tired of getting rr'd mid round by someone for zero reason

[quaint cradle]

very rarely resomi will say bawk after silly

[tight scarab]

We already have the solution to this problem. It's called admins. This is literally the reason why they exist. If they were around most of the time and not only on special occasions, they could catch the shitters before they do much damage and compensate it for whoever got harmed by them. We don't need any bullshit rules like Frontier has and we totally don't need whitelist or even less so another sever.

[quaint cradle]

i would agree but very rarely do the admins either, A. get to it in time, or B. get to it at all

and while yes

they could

it doesnt happen often from the times ive seen

[tight scarab]

Yeah, this is kinda the problem that needs solving, right? Admin negligence isn't solved by whitelists and stuff.

[quaint cradle]

i mean yeah it is but theres not much i can do about that, and not much they can do but higher more admins

and suggesting that is pointless

as they likely know

[tight scarab]

On the contrary, there's lots you can do.

You can apply for admining yourself.

[quaint cradle]

i shouldnt have to apply for admin in order to enjoy a game

[tight scarab]

No, you can enjoy it right now, you'd have to just change the attitude. But if you want to solve the problem you are outlining that would be a great way to do it.

[quaint cradle]

what do you mean change my attitude?

literally all im saying is we should find ways to fix the issue of so many shitters joining factions and rammining civvies or sayling slurs

how is that an attitude?

[tight scarab]

You let shitters get on your nerves. That's what you need to change. The raiders that just ram you are not even remotely the worst kind of shitter you can meet either. It's not as bad here as it is in regular SS because here you have an unheard of privilage of not having to deal with the people you don't like... unless they are rogues or TSF. Now that's where it really gets bad.

[quaint cradle]

I dont let them get on my nerves, im saying losing a bunch of progress and money because someone decided to ram you for zero reason

is not something you should have to deal with in a game

and we should fix it

and i gave some suggestions how

[tight scarab]

Please. You are playing Space Station. this game is all about "losing progress" due to circumstance outside your own control.

[quaint cradle]

No, most circumstances you can at least fight back from, or, there on servers that aren't 8 hours long, a random person ramming you because they decided they had nothing better to do is NOT within someones control

[tight scarab]

Things happen, man. I don't have anything else to tell you. Sometimes there's nothing you can do. You get injected with nocturine and there's fuck all you can do to prevent your imminent death. At other times the game decides to fuck you in particular and launches you at relativistic speeds away from your ship. Someone ramming you is really not the worst thing that can happen to you and you getting mad over it only makes it worth doing more as far as shitters are concerned.
If you have a problem with random things killing you, you probably should play a different game.

It's annoying but it's not even in the top 20 of the biggest issues mono has. Money is worth almost nothing right now and that's about the only progress you make from one round to the next.

[quaint cradle]

first off the speeds thing is pressure change, second off it is most definitely one of the bigger things, at least if you get launched you can throw your self back or if you die med can come get you

if you get rammed your ships totalled, youre likely gibbed

and no one knows who did it until they start ramming at CO

and once again

im not mad

literally all ive been saying this whole time

is we should put in measures to fight against raiders

that has been ALL ive been saying

[tight scarab]

I am yet to be rammed so hard that I don't survive. What are you driving? A letterbox?

[quaint cradle]

we were in a meteor

and there was like

one room left

USSP vessels are no joke

[tight scarab]

Beats me how did they manage.

Also, meteor is deceptively easy to kill.

It only has 1 wall between the rooms and space.

The fact that it's big doesn't help much

Still. they had to ram repetedly over and over again to entirely break it

[quaint cradle]

which is what they did

[tight scarab]

And you just sit there and allowed to kill you? You could have jumped out into space and called for someone to pick you up. That way you could at least save your cash. That in itself would have significantly reduced your losses.

[quaint cradle]

i wasent the one who was on at the time, and even so, if they take out power you cant go no where

doors are stuck and unless you have a crow bar or pry on you, youre kinda just fucked

[tight scarab]

So... you are saying that you do not ALWAYS carry a crowbar?

I was wrong about you. I thought you were butthurt at first but I was wrong about this.

[quaint cradle]

not always, most of them time but even so, plus we were working obn the ship so we left tools about

[quaint cradle]

dude im not even the one who got rammed

i just think its bs that nothing is ever done about it

[tight scarab]

Truth be told I do not know how to address this anymore. It's understanble to a degree if you are mad cause you got rammed but your actual problem is that you have a crippling skill issue. getting out of an unpowered ship is almost as easy as out of powered one.

[quaint cradle]

dude, once again, im not mad

and once again, im not the one

who was rammed

and even if you didnt die

[tight scarab]

I am not saying you are anymore.

[quaint cradle]

you still just lost all of your shuttle

[quaint cradle]

you literally

JUST did

[tight scarab]

No, I said that I would have understood if you were but that's not the real issue.

[tight scarab]

Which is not worth anything at all on its own.

[quaint cradle]

its worth its cost

all the research

the mechs we made

anything else on it

[tight scarab]

The only thing that remotely has value on the whole ship is the server. Replacing it is somewhat painful, but that's the only thing. Everything else is just money. Money is worth almost nothing.

Especially if you are a merc, then you are rolling in money. You'll make another meteror and a half in 15 minutes or so.

[quaint cradle]

wtf are you doing to make 400k in 15 minutes

[brittle escarp]

Expeds.

[tight scarab]

Meteor is not 400k, bruh. It's at most 150k and I am highballing it.

[quaint cradle]

dude

[quaint cradle]

oh wait you said half not double thats mb

[quaint cradle]

expeds themself are usually 10 minutes long and the most you can make is 70k when not looting corpses and you get like 20k from looting corpses

[tight scarab]

Expeds take ten minutes when you are doing the one that makes you go and destroy things. if it's kill the boss it's like 5 minutes.

[quaint cradle]

thats still not 200k in 15 minutes

ftling to and away from expeds themself is like three minutes in total

200k would be like

40 minutes

not 15

[tight scarab]

true enough, 140k if you lowball it, prob more since you are looting. That's still more than enough for a meteor.

[quaint cradle]

and most of the time im working with a crew which you have to split funds

[tight scarab]

Well, that's a YOU issue, man. If you are there to make money you don't hire crew. Just cause you choose to share with others doesn't make it any less profitable.

[quaint cradle]

im not there fro money im there to enjoy a game, and once again

getting fucking rammed for zero reason, everyother round or so is NOT an enjoyable game

[tight scarab]

So you are not there for money but you complain about money?

[quaint cradle]

you're the one who brought up money

[tight scarab]

Maybe not for you. I love getting into trouble.

[quaint cradle]

i brought up progress

[tight scarab]

Which is money. there's no other progress here besides that.

[quaint cradle]

there literally is

round progress? unlocking stuff? getting loot? or yah know

the thing you do in mrp servers

roleplay

[tight scarab]

Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuh.

Last time when I picked shipwrecked people was some of the coolest roleplay around.

[quaint cradle]

except most people dont have them join them, they just take them to CO and move on with whatever they were doing

or

just leave them to die

cause no one plays medical really

[tight scarab]

Which is exactly what I did. We loaded their suriving stuff, I was telling their captain about cool adventures that I had. We smoked my cigars together. Was awesome, I wish I went with them to a bar or something.

The only remotely valuable thing on your ship is R&D server. Losing it is somewhat annoying not worth to get upset over. I don't even research most of the time and I am always having a blast.

[quaint cradle]

Alright? not everyone plays the game the same

[tight scarab]

Most of the items actually worth having you should carry on your person one way or another

[quaint cradle]

once again all im suggesting is we do things to combat raiders

i dont get why everyone is getting in a hissy fit over this

[tight scarab]

Yeah, and after talking to you I came to the conclusion that perhaps you need to change your attitude.

You clearly take all this shit too seriously

[quaint cradle]

dude what??

literally all ive said is i dont see the fun in losing progress or haivng your roleplay messed up cause someone got bored, i dont at all see what you would consider an attitude other then me disagreeing with you

not once have i said i think the other opinions people have are bs

all ive said

[tight scarab]

Hence why you need an attitude change.

[quaint cradle]

is we need to combat raiders

[quaint cradle]

do me a favor

tell me how

in any way shape or form

that is my attitude

[tight scarab]

See... this thing in itself is debatable. I don't care about raiders one way or another. They are a part of the game to me. Other people actually look for them and make public executions out of them. They have fun, raiders probably have fun too. Nothing of value is lost.

They are kinda like graytiders from regular SS.

If you want to fight them, go right ahead, I don't mind if they go away. But I reeeeeeealy don't want you to start making my life more difficult for this cause.

[quaint cradle]

how on earth does it make your life difficult?

[tight scarab]

Whitelist - one word.

[tidal abyss]

ive never heard of or seen a USSP do that. you are clearly a disgruntled TSF player that is mad civs are always against you

[quaint cradle]

ive never played TSF once in my life and i can name two other people who can back me up on this happening

[tidal abyss]

two of your tsf buddies right?

[quaint cradle]

how does that make your life more difficult? its literally just making a simle post

[quaint cradle]

theyve never played tsf either

we were all emrcs

mercs

[tight scarab]

Like I already outlined: if this place ever gets a whitelist I am immidiately looking for a new server. I don't care if I get into whitelist or not. I have something like 6 years of playtime in whitlisted servers, they all sucked and I never actually had proper fun until I left. I am not coming back, fuck whitelists.
They create a toxic shithole where everyone is just a yes-man for the current head admin because everyone who isn't that doesn't get on to begin with.

[tidal abyss]

that just sounds like any server

obey the min, or get the ban

[quaint cradle]

i have not played a single white list server where this was the case

[tight scarab]

True enough, except you actually get to play for a while either way, it's just that it might not be long.

[tight scarab]

Either you don't notice or you got luckier than me. Either way my experience trumps yours in my own eyes, nothing personal.

[tidal abyss]

i remember hatching a bunch of monkeys with cubes and an admin said if any of the monkeys kill someone ill get banned for it

and not the monkey

[quaint cradle]

Same for me with raiders

so i have no clue why we're even having an arguement

[tidal abyss]

at least raiders makes sense for this server

its just average day in america station 14

someone tweaks out and goes shooting in the hood

[tight scarab]

That's a different case. I agree with you that what you are saying does happen. I just have a different view of it.

I am telling you how to get fun out of being rammed by a raider. It don't have to be this painful experience you describe.

[quaint cradle]

that makes zero sense in this server

[quaint cradle]

except it usually is in teh cases ive seen

once again

not every scenario is the same

[tidal abyss]

your average TSF drone huffs too much glue on guard duty, decides hes gotta take his anger out on a civ

i can see it

[tight scarab]

I dunno if I love or hate that we have an entire faction of shitsecs.

[tidal abyss]

i love it

gives everyone a common enemy

[tight scarab]

On one side I am a sec main, so seeing shitsecs actually offends me. On another side shitsecs are hilarious to observe.

[tidal abyss]

i would intentionally play as shitsec sometimes

like i would plant contra and hide in a locker

if you touch it im putting you in for max time

there would be syndies attackin the st ation and i would arrest people for having a gun

i would then proceed to give said gun to the clown

[quaint cradle]

this explains alot actually

[kind heath]

this issue isnt really solveable imo

the only permanent solution is really just whitelisting the games important bits (this doesnt even work btw)
or getting a bigger admin team

shitters are everywhere

our community is such a victim because its new and the only current server with so little restrictions

so people see that as either an invite to frag or an invite get banned intentionally

remember, gatekeeping a select area will never solve a community issue, it will only make the game lesss fun

everyone who does the shitting will just go somewhere else ingame

also

rather than banning people using a filter

[tight scarab]

So much this.

[kind heath]

we should just implement a filter like goob to smite people for spamming the same thing repeatedly too much

itd give admins a chance to deal with them and the problem would be dead and unable to continue harming

👍

[quaint cradle]

i like that one tbh

[tight scarab]

You know, maybe this isn't such a bad idea. Provided this doesn't affect me spaming "retreat" or "run away" for my mates.

[kind heath]

it wouldnt

think of goob

[tight scarab]

I never played on goob.

[kind heath]

you have to spam the emotw

like

fifty times

super fast

as if clicking a button super fucking fast

[quaint cradle]

well that wouldnt work as most of them are people spamming the n word

[kind heath]

there can be a method for this

but also horrendous words should definitely smite you tbh

like the n word

lmao

but other than that, spamming shit in super fast succession is a simple patch fix

[tight scarab]

They are gonna spam N word regardless of filters, they'll just bypass the filters by replacing letter with symbols like @ for A

[kind heath]

then they can just die to spamming THAT word

[tight scarab]

That might work, yes.

[kind heath]

i dont mean spam smite for actual slurs

i mean outright instant smite

[quaint cradle]

id like that

[kind heath]

but spam smites would work for emotes and phrases alike

since shitters enjoy spamming phrases that mean nothing

[tidal abyss]

we could also just do a ban lottery, where tehres a 10% chance if a new player joins it auto bans

that way we're guaranteed to preemptively ban a raider at one point

[quaint cradle]

unironically that would be a funny admeme, just unban them after

[kind heath]

just whitelist atp vro

[lyric kernel]

Just having people to post their playtime + communicate with other servers to see if that playtime is true. . . will, imo, deter a majority of raiders.

[tidal abyss]

so preban all new players?

[lyric kernel]

If the 0 playtime people are still to be accepted - atleast in that case admins have a control of inflow of new players

[tidal abyss]

fun fact there is zero difference between a troll/griefer and a new player

they are the same thing

at least according to most MRP servers

[lyric kernel]

admin is on , checks a couple of 0 hour players, accepts some. They get in, play under supervision of teacher in school admin. If they are shitter - the admin has already eye on them. IF they aren't for a couple of hours - continue accepting new people to server.

almost all problems

could be solved by

adding N more admins to pool

but

we aint having that(atleast from what it seems to be the case)

[tidal abyss]

IE ban all new players within 10 min

[lyric kernel]

Who said THAT?

[tidal abyss]

you said new player plays under supervision of admin, and if shitter, ban em

that new player aint gonna last more than 10 mi nwithout fuckin up

[lyric kernel]

There's a clear and distinct difference

between new player

and a raider

in gameplay

[tidal abyss]

new player grabs a gun out of his inventory, tries to figure out how to rack it and put it back into inventory, figures out how to rack it, accidently left clicks in harm mode, shoots someone in CO

no different from a raider that just shoots someone in CO

[lyric kernel]

Raider will just keep firing in this case and kill someone

accidentally shooting

is a warn.

and even hurting

[tidal abyss]

except to the badmin, there is no difference between an accident and intentional

at least on funky

[lyric kernel]

We had

people

in end of round

almost kill each other

at CO

no warnings issued

[tidal abyss]

well yeah its end of round

i saw admins spam chinalakes at end of round

[lyric kernel]

EORG is not allowed

[tidal abyss]

blew up CO almost completely

[lyric kernel]

and you're talking like admins are stupid people

[tidal abyss]

theyre not otherwise they wouldnt be admins

[lyric kernel]

"Admin will not differentiate between accidental discharge of a gun and a raider magdumping into someone at CO"

[tidal abyss]

thats how admining on other servers work at least

best way to prevent future accidents, is to ban all the new players committing them

[kind heath]

this is basically whitelisting

people arent going to go out of their way to play a server if theyre not already invested in it

thats why whitelists DONT work

its easy to be a shitter with playtime, cuz ur invested in shittery

and communication with other servers doesnt need explanations

youre asking people to apply to the server like some kind of job when its a video game

[kind heath]

where do u intend to find people to staff the server with that much free time

theres already an understaff issue here

this would contribute to that by making it even harder on them

[kind heath]

new players are shitters cuz they dont understand their actions, so yes, shitters tend to be new

[dusky light]

You could remove ship purchasing from contractors so you have to get some playtime and learning to buy a ship. Makes them more of a contractor too and gives pilot more of a unique role.

Maybe not a full restriction but a limit to only smaller ships they can't do as much damage with

[kind heath]

this reduces rolebloat by giving them unique reasons to exist, however, i always wonder why no one makes that a thing

oh wait

shitcode

im sure theres a component for it somewhere

[dusky light]

nah its a wyci situation, factions and stuff already have access filters or whatever for higher ranking ships

[kind heath]

yeah but im not doing allat

also it came to me when i was shitting on ur opinion

oh i wasnt doing that

count ur chickens lucky bucko

[dusky light]

crazy

I was crazy once

[kind heath]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-lovefool-metacord-runker-gif-20947994

[lyric kernel]

Again, this whole situation xan be resolved by getting more admemes

[kind heath]

which is being done.

they DID open staff applications... if you didnt notice.

idk about now anymore though

[lyric kernel]

See many admin applications?

Noone wants to be a jannie

[olive plank]

cargo

[kind heath]

exactly

so if people arent already applying

what exactly do u propose as a solution

[olive plank]

self agreeing

i mentally do not have the courage to do any whitelist

[kind heath]

i didnt until i did it

now i get to play ads

kek

[olive plank]

i have like

50 hours on the server theyre NOT letting me be whitelisted

[kind heath]

ooooh

[olive plank]

especially considering it opens tsf colonel and ads

[kind heath]

yeah no

nvrmund

[olive plank]

and i dont want to mindlessly grind 1000 hours

just to get the least rp role

that just frags people

honestly they should lift whitelists off ais

[kind heath]

they should NOT

its a frag role

[olive plank]

regular ais

not ads

[kind heath]

ohh

yeah

[olive plank]

idfk why they even have a whitelist

[kind heath]

those shouldnt be

frontier holdover

[olive plank]

theres 0 point in having an ai core on your ship or in general

[kind heath]

there would be

actually

[olive plank]

if it just doesnt fucking work cause nobody whitelisted will play it

[kind heath]

if more people whitelisted

yeah

but giving somone the abilitiy to command an entire ship

is pretty bonkers

on a server with alot of fraggers

[olive plank]

not really

you can only talk through shortband

[kind heath]

just give it like

[olive plank]

and the singular holopad

[kind heath]

uhhh

60 hr playtime req

[olive plank]

sure

[kind heath]

i would if i cared enough tbh

[olive plank]

i think whitelists are just

a bad system in general

for about anything

unless its like a fucking party or some shit

[kind heath]

frontier moment

[olive plank]

every single person is biased

it takes one "Off" feeling of an admin to not get you the whitelist

[kind heath]

the only part of whitelists is giving the community the chance to gauge ur playability

and even then it solves nothing for the most part

[olive plank]

john shitter can apply for a whitelist and aslong as he is kind to the admins he gets it

jane awesomecommand can apply for a whitelist but she said something mean to the admin 50 weeks ago so she doesnt get it

[trail stratus]

I tried to be admin, mostly because im almost online

[kind heath]

gl

[mellow mortar]

Frontieroids will infiltrate the admin team and kill the server by abusing the whitelist system

[trail stratus]

We already rejected cyberjoel

[mellow mortar]

Not his alt though

[trail stratus]

30 years and he has an alt? Whats bro hiding

[novel spire]

what does that even mean, monolith and frontier have the same whitelist requirements

but yeah that's a ton of admin workload, who would do that lol

[mellow mortar]

the hypothetical whitelist proposed in the op*

[novel spire]

I mean it works for Funky, Harmony, Coyote, Floof

or panic bunker

but yeah, greifers are able to join public servers, harder for em to join WL servers

[tidal abyss]

go to wizden and recruit an admin there they live to janny

[tidal abyss]

i remember ripping up mail to see whats inside and got banned for self antagging i be like wtf for mail?

[tidal abyss]

no they infiltrate and enforce frontier level rp and escalation despite it not being in the rules

[trail stratus]

There was an admind here

That wanted to implement that kind of rules

The community response?
1 (self) - 50

https://discord.com/channels/1329292619834069034/1376678065505046579

G(old) post, he deleted the message

[tidal abyss]

was it the meme app

i remember someone making a joke app and it was a competition to see how many Xs he could get

[trail stratus]

In a summary one of the rules said

"Wait until TSF reaches you"

[tidal abyss]

lol

[trail stratus]

So that means never

[tidal abyss]

you be waiting all shift

[trail stratus]

Uh no idea

[tidal abyss]

and only because tsf wanted to blow you up

[trail stratus]

Ye

[tidal abyss]

nah the right way to do it is to make the app sound like you a decent admin, then full U turn and enforce the rules you wish were there but arent

thats what some of the trial admins be doing

pro strat

[novel spire]

I mean, rule 0 I guess

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[agile hornet]

We don't need to "disable all ramming"

If we wanted to do that we'd just do what wizden did but not as extreme, decreasing ram damage by increasing the slow on collision. "Nerfing" it.

Adding a small whitelist which required joining on discord and typing your ckey for new players could help a bit. Maybe. Funky had something like that.

They tightened up their whitelist though

So I'm not really sure it worked in that state.

[kind heath]

yeah

which is why context and basic human brain function is a key factor

[kind heath]

they went full blown whitelist

although i have no idea how it will help, itd probably end up nerfing player count within a week

[agile hornet]

Depends on how much they require for whitelists

Besides

Low pop isnt a... horrible thing

[kind heath]

the games so big rn

[agile hornet]

Some people think it is but harmony is flourishing smh

[kind heath]

its easy to make it feel empty with 30~ players

if we reduced POI bloat and such and shrunk the games wideness then id be more inclined for lowpop

but rn whenever its lowpop i only ever end up running around like im in single player usually

[agile hornet]

Yea

Honestly not a horrible idea to shrink stuff a bit

[kind heath]

i think the games bloat is pretty reasonable factor for the imbalance

the dev team is struggling keeping up with the size rn

[novel spire]

funky always had a full whitelist

no?

[kind heath]

idk

i applied for the first time and it was full whitelist and had to wait like 3 days for a respanse

not the greatest

[agile hornet]

No

Old funky whitelist was "join and state ckey" to get whitelisted

[olive plank]

honestly

full whitelist could be fine if this server had more coverage

all i knew about this server before joining was that its frontier but less rule

and if i saw it had a whitelist i would literally just not join because i wouldnt give enough of a shit

i dont think there are ANY youtube videos on this server

[trail stratus]

Damn funky changed a lot

I was there before all the mrp drama

When everything was -lrp

[agile hornet]

Mhm

[novel spire]

there's not any videos on frontier either that I know of

but SS14 is still super niche, and not many people would have heard of it even with coverage

[olive plank]

nope

theres alot of videos on frontier

the thing that got me into frontier for the first time was a russian vid

[kind heath]

u underestimate how many clips of ss14 just exist

people upload to yt with ss14 clips cuz its easier than using discord

then just link it to watch thru yt

[brittle escarp]

actually, there is ONE!

From peash

its the reason i got on monolith

there SINGLE monolith videon in all of existance

is why im in monolith today

[olive plank]

one

[brittle escarp]

yes

[kind heath]

nope

again

people post vods from mono all the time

just ask people for their yt

i garauntee they have mono edits and clips

[tidal abyss]

imagine whitelisting an already niche game

might as well require three factor authentication and ID age verification to fully kill the server

[trail stratus]

Whitelisting will scare everyone

[pallid elk]

"I died in the server with pvp to someone performing pvp and attacking me without my consent. make the game cater to frontier style gameplay or im not having fun."

also RR doesn't exist here LOL

we have a respawn button

[tidal abyss]

doesnt matter admins still complain when you kill someone and leave em

aight here's a compromise, how about new players and potential shitters can join but only after playing mandatory clown role for 20 hours

[dusky light]

contractor

[gilded osprey]

Just have 7 admins watching every new guy and torment them with bwoinks after they crash into an asteroid

[trail stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/bazinga-car-crash-jumpscare-gif-13755883359583005948

[tidal abyss]

ill do you better, bwoink em the moment they start shooting

block their view with pop ups so they slip and get shot

[storm heron]

lost interest after you said whitelist

[hardy meadow]

just have enough money for a ship that can survive being rammed

[brave wasp]

Maybe all stations have automated defenses? That shoot at ships without a iff

Would also make it so tsf have to turn on their iff when approaching a station

[tidal abyss]

excepf most reiders are civs

and thatll just get turned into "station shot at me first i self defended"

[quaint cradle]

dude not all are meant to be added, its pick and choose and once again, a conversation starter, so if you lost interest maybe go back to youtube shorts..

[storm heron]

shut the fuck up

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1268346501159976983/1272157358511886377/Tumblr_l_224302222392967.gif

[quaint cradle]

well now thats just rude

[storm heron]

so if you lost interest maybe go back to youtube shorts..
im responding the way you seem to understand

[quaint cradle]

that wasen't rude, simply pointing you that if you lost interest you must have a low attention span

[storm heron]

hey maybe consider that your suggestion is utter dogshit yeah?

[quaint cradle]

and maybe consider that i could care less if people dislike my suggestion because i have a live outside a silly little space game

[storm heron]

you seem to take it really seriously

[quaint cradle]

not really

i just think its a bit annoying having someone slam into me

[tidal abyss]

and people care even less about yo whitelist

[quaint cradle]

what is that suppose to mean? like 10 of those are mine

[quaint cradle]

chat im not even whitelisted on any servers

lmao

[storm heron]

quarter of the messages are from you

[quaint cradle]

meh

still

[storm heron]

maybe give up on the suggestion aye delete it

[quaint cradle]

nah im not gonna delete

like i said

i could care less people dont like it

[storm heron]

the results say otherwise

[quaint cradle]

no, what i care about is people rage baiting because they feel a need to be rude for zero reason

i couldnt care about people disliking the suggestion

[storm heron]

you were the one to bash out on me first no?

[quaint cradle]

i care about people not READING it then responding based of inaccurate info or saying smth snotty just so they get five check mark emojis

[quaint cradle]

wasent bashing you, was just saying you must have a low attention span

[storm heron]

Whitelist to join is stupid, we barely have enough players for a second server for it to be populated, shuttle ramming is a crucial part of combat and there already is a filter

there

reasons for all your sugggestions are stupid

[tidal abyss]

get em averi

[storm heron]

you might say i barely said shit about whitelist being stupid

let me list them out

its taxxing for staff

its taxxing for players

its not going to stop rule breaks

its only going to hurt the servers population

there

[tidal abyss]

taxing for staff may be a good thing

less time for them to ban balaam for being balaam

[storm heron]

true.......

[quaint cradle]

And more proof you havent read a message in this thread before responding, i have stated many, MANY times, that these are all to start a conversation on possible things to eb added

hell i even said it in this arguement

[storm heron]

you havent

[quaint cradle]

wanna bet?

[storm heron]

you said it here

[quaint cradle]

the very thing you were raging over

[storm heron]

mm

im not raging

[quaint cradle]

.

[storm heron]

ah yeah telling someone to stfu is rage

[tidal abyss]

ok lets compromise, how about a whitelist thats just showing proof youve been banned off frontier

[quaint cradle]

and you called it bashing which i find funny because i consider myself to have a low attention span

[storm heron]

REAL SHIT

[storm heron]

okay?

[quaint cradle]

once again, whitelist was not a main suggestion, it was a conversation starter

can you guys really not wrap your head around this?

should i make a google slides for you?

[storm heron]

i dont think a low attention span is the problem here i think the problem here is that you are fucking stupid and that you should just shut up and accept that its a shit suggestion

[storm heron]

please id love to see that

[quaint cradle]

bet

[quaint cradle]

once again, i could care less what others think, the whole point of suggestions is suggesting things you think would be nice to see, not something everyone will agree with. and stooping to call me stupid because youre getting upset? thats just rude once more

[storm heron]

you are saying you arent?

[quaint cradle]

that once again is smth of opinion

if you think that so be it

i dont care

[storm heron]

maybe instead of being your first response to me being "you have low attention span" you coulda explain nicely and not give me a reason for you to shut the fuck up because its what you need to do

[storm heron]

if you didnt care you would have said ok and not checked up on the thread

[quaint cradle]

this entire forum

has been me trying to suggest it

but no one has been reading, that or they cant

[storm heron]

we all have read it

[tidal abyss]

yeah none of us are reading its all our fault we in the wrong

but you are right

single handedly outsmarted all of us

[storm heron]

you keep trying to convince yourself that nobody read what you wrote instead of accepting that what you wrote is utter dogshit of a idea

[quaint cradle]

no, i dont think you guys are in the wrong at all

once again

its a matter of opinion

[quaint cradle]

the very fact ive had to repeat myself many times over says you havent

[storm heron]

i dont think you guys are in the wrong at all
actually you are wrong because i had to repeat myself

[quaint cradle]

i dont think your opinions about my post are wrong
you just said something thats blatently false

[storm heron]

i love how you did greentext after i did

but uhh

yeah i really cant be bothered more to say how much of a ignorant idiot you are

oh actually no i know

you are on top of that uhhh

what was it again

[tidal abyss]

to be fair thats the average person in this discord

[storm heron]

mount stupid

yeah

this

[storm heron]

true...

@quaint cradle just stop responding and suck it up im just going to stop following the thread

[quaint cradle]

no i wont stop responding, and i wont suck it up because once again i could care less that you feel a need to call me an idiot instead of having a proper debate. And saying im on the top of mount stupid is very funny to me considering ive had to repeat the same thing over and over, i feel like im talking to a brick wall

[tidal abyss]

ur le dumb, xD

[quaint cradle]

i would like to remind you the only reason its gotten to this point is because people like you have been doing nothing but rage baiting

[quaint cradle]

@storm heron "im just going to stop following the thread" instantly reacts to my response

[tidal abyss]

that means youre dumb enough to bite the hook if true

[quaint cradle]

no, infact very few times ive "biten the hook" all ive done is responded to them, and called out the people who were just being rude

[trail stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/fadding-baby-cry-gif-13060743193639102619

[safe python]

pause

[quaint cradle]

Did i stutter.

[agile hornet]

This is valid because the thread is active and potentially in the way of things that might be implemented

I think

Overall with the ramming balance change things are mostly fine.

[quaint cradle]

yuh now they ares

[agile hornet]

There are no plans to add a full server whitelist

[quaint cradle]

once again it was just a conversation starter..

[agile hornet]

Ultimately mechanics arent gonna stop shitters

Theyll just fine other ways to be shitty

Its like reducing damage to stop people dying cause shitters use guns its not a very good idea

[safe python]

neither will rules but yall aint ready for that conversation

[agile hornet]

Go back to bed

[safe python]

[agile hornet]

Its too late for you

But yes

[safe python]

https://tenor.com/view/jacques-brel-brel-jacky-bat-de-l'aile-aile-gif-7673215556240957287

[agile hornet]

Rules are

Shitters dont care about rules

Rules are the bible you throw at shitters

To justify the ban

[quaint cradle]

and this is the type of shit ive dealt with this entire forum lmao

[agile hornet]

Well to be fair your initial suggestions are very excessive so

Not a good conversation starter

[quaint cradle]

well i mean i guess but i made it pretty clear that these were just possibilites and that more could be and SHOULD be suggested

[tidal abyss]

with the dune planet lets remove all guns and just be a melee pvp server

[tidal abyss]

the server only needs two rules, the escalation rule and admin interpretation rule. Can be bent to meet the needs of any and all bans

a catchall for shitters