So far in testing the fastest way I could do it is by exploding 2 duffels worth of payloads and that only managed to get through one of them. Otherwise the fastest I did is with fire axe. There's also C-4 that blows through 2 of them but C-4 is difficult to get without being a rogue.
#What's the fastest way to get through a plastitanium wall without ship weapons?
timid rock
royal lance
deconstruct them
timid rock
deconstruct them
Plastitanium walls can't be deconstructed. That's kinda where the problem stems from.
timid rock
thats just bullshit now
They were never meant to be used for anything besides admemes and things meant to be next to indestructible, like nukie shuttles. There isn't even a way you can build them naturaly so obviously there's no way to decostruct them either.
median tangle
They have 7500 health, breaching hammer has a comment in the code that says it takes a minute of wielded attacks to break a plastinium wall... which is probably the fastest without any kind of explosive
timid rock
They have 7500 health, breaching hammer has a comment in the code that says it t...
Where would I procure one without having to break into a TSF armory?
median tangle
Where would I procure one without having to break into a TSF armory?
You can actually get the hammer on expends but yeah I get it. They just aren't meant to break easily so there is no easy way to break them by hand. Are you trying to get into a ship or something on a structure? If it's a ship you can ram(technically uses no guns) but if it's in the middle of something there really isn't anything but the hammer to take them out faster
“Faster” because it's still a minute
timid rock
You can actually get the hammer on expends but yeah I get it. They just aren't m...
I am trying to come up with a way to board without using obvious choke points like doorways. It's not only for PVP but also for things like sindie UIV and cache.
I tried explosives and the only type that provides results without uterly unreasonable payload investment is C-4
median tangle
Depends what you are I guess, I assume rogue
median tangle
Maybe diamond-tipped drill, I need to test it though
timid rock
Maybe diamond-tipped drill, I need to test it though
You know what, that's not a bad idea.
median tangle
Nothing that would be accessible quick sadly
timid rock
Except I dunno if you can actually tech it in SS14. The last time I seen a diamond drill was in SS13
timid rock
I'll try it then. I didn't think about drills, this might actually work.
Just because they attack really fast
median tangle
Its not going to be quicker than the hammer, I want to find a time for it to break one later
timid rock
Well, I'd love to just get everyone on my team a hammer and just smash the wall in like 10 seconds but that's not possible
median tangle
Rob tsf first 
median tangle
Because its still faction tech I think
timid rock
What a HAMMER is faction tech?
median tangle
Yeah, it 2 shots people if you're an oni
timid rock
Well, sure, but good luck getting close
timid rock
On monolith most guns do like twice the damage they do normally. You die so fast you'd be lucky to even swing once.
median tangle
I know, I did the testing. Its a better option compared with most guns still because of the Stam crit
timid rock
It stuns too?
median tangle
Yeah just because it does so much blunt
timid rock
Interesting.
median tangle
the diamond drill took about 5 and a half minutes.... so uh not viable
you can get it down to about 1:45 if you use the diamond tipped Exosuit drill, which is the same tech but you need a mech or 2 hands and a big slowdown
timid rock
the diamond drill took about 5 and a half minutes.... so uh not viable
Hmm... this is unfortunate. So what I am left with is that I need to invent better ways of getting through airlocks. This is highly unfortunate because getting to an airlock on a moving ship is a no thrivial job.
I might be able to pull it off myself, but the rest of crew - no
It's such a shame that you can't just thermite a wall in ss14
timid rock
I'll test this.
By the way, anyone knows if walls got changed on monolith compared to wizden? I can't get monolith to run on local so I have to test there instead.
fading shore
By the way, anyone knows if walls got changed on monolith compared to wizden? I ...
yea they have more HP
timid rock
yea they have more HP
Well, I'd have to try in-game too when I get a charge then.
Charges do work, the only issue is that I'll need several and there's no reliable way of getting them
median tangle
By the way, anyone knows if walls got changed on monolith compared to wizden? I ...
Read the read me file, you have to run a few things to update it
timid rock
Read the read me file, you have to run a few things to update it
Update what?
timid rock
Read the read me file
You mean the monolith build?
median tangle
Yeah
timid rock
It's not that I can't update it, I just can't start it.
It tells me that it cannot find some files, troubleshooting told me to reinstall NET, I did that, there's less files missing but some still are and it still doesn't start
median tangle
Reinstall the whole repo, that's what I always do when it breaks.
It takes a while but it usually fixes it
timid rock
I did that too, did not help
timid rock
No, just the bats in scripts
median tangle
Do what it says in the read me then
timid rock
Alright then.
timid rock
Do what it says in the read me then
Uh... could you be more specific?
Okay... I actually figured it out. Turns out this thing is wrong and you are supposed to run release.
median tangle
timid rock
It doesn't start if I run debug
timid rock
Man, this is exactly what I was trying to do. I just took it from github and not from readme
median tangle
you have the right .net version?
timid rock
I just reinstalled it solely for this thing.
median tangle
I can't tell much more without the error itself I guess
timid rock
But anyway, I did manage to start it. Just not debug one
Release should do fine too
@median tangle One way or another, thank you. You did put me on the correct path.
median tangle
lol no problem
timid rock
While testing on local I suddenly discovered a way to get lots of seismic charges
It turns out USSP can just print them
And as far as I can tell I can just buy a server from their vending machine, natually after cutting a wire or two
Well, this just makes everything much simpler
mystic bane
By the way, anyone knows if walls got changed on monolith compared to wizden? I ...
walls got powercrept
they have like 6 times as much health i think on average
timid rock
walls got powercrept
they have like 6 times as much health i think on average
I think they are also completely invulnurable im some cases.
I wtched a rogue C-4ing a halcyon wall 3 times and failed to destroy it
Is this the case just for Halcyon or every station that you can spawn on?
timid rock
Because its still faction tech I think
This is a bit late but I just dug up an absolutely fascinating piece of information about the hammer. Apparently Mercenaries are supposed to have access to it, just not in handheld variant. The mercenary assault borg has breaching module with the hammer included. Maybe the hammer should just be in general access.
median tangle
Merc assault borgs hasn't been merged yet
timid rock
Merc assault borgs hasn't been merged yet
I know but they will be soon.
mystic bane
Is this the case just for Halcyon or every station that you can spawn on?
station walls are tough
like 50k+ hp
timid rock
station walls are **tough**
Yeah, which sucks huge ass. Plastitanium walls already severely limit your options unless you are rogue and station ones specificaly are efffectively indestructable. I was planning a baikal armory heist but since I can't actually get into the armory or anywhere close to it without going through doors it'll just be a regular old head-on attack instead.