#General Atmos Conversation (formerly buff edison sale price, but went off topic)
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but its just hard to setup and keep running
if you're a true blooded atmosian you will make BANK
frfr
Congrats queen π£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈ
Fun fact
Lancelot's gas miners are anchorable
So you wont ever need oxy & plasma if you knoq what your doing
i sense either a hiest or a PR
Depends if mr mald pr starch sees it or not
Ive seen someone steal it before too
So it can definitely be profit
VERY fun fact
It has TWO separate O2 and N2 miners
It has a 400 moles a second plasma gas miner
It has fucking gaslocks to get all those gasses into your ship
Neat
man im so excited for the phaeron, wish it gets merged
ive even added a gas pipe sensors to every pipe of note so you can just monitor the entire ship's atmos pipes in the atmos monitoring console
and theres an air alarm connected to an air sensor inside the tank so you can see what the condition of the interior of the tank without having to go in there manually and using a gas analyzer
Good luck getting reviewed rubeebee π£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈ
FUCKING
LETS
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
gas miners RISE UP
im so excited to use this bad boy
Gl hf
YA LOVE TO SEE IT
Truly the Atmos are winning
BRUH
YOU FLOODED THE ENTIRE STATION WITH FREZON
ITS SUPER COOLED NOW
also holy shit only 70 KMOL is a mil?
of frezon apparently.
goddamn i should start producing frezon instead
π
idk whats the new price of gas nowadays
14 with a 1.5x multiplier
15 dolla per frezon mole
apparently
mechs have a bam tool that deals like
only 40 dmg apparnetly
MECHS HAVE A DEBUG C20
WOW
They gas up
Threw up a TEG Crate to Cargo Request Console in a PR. Hopefully they're okay with it.
TEG on Arribane would be very much fun.
TEG is infinite power
SM instead
SM has atmospherics application ( effectively a plasma oxy gas miner that you can place on your ship )
sm has power ( bolts & rads )
SM is cooler
Sm is NOT technnicaly infinite power, as it has surges which delam it ( in tg )
My worry with SM is people weaponizing it
Unless we remove the delam into Tesla/Singulo and make it so delam next to/within safe zones just removes the grid, and that you cannot unflatpack an SM onto a safe zone
Too much grief potential for unedited SM
SM should just delam into a ship-large explosion
who cares people are ramming with SM's, its a expensive alternative, and it still breaks the tile under, its a 50k single use efficient spear
well
50~, no determined price
i agree with the safezone stuff
People tend to forget the genuinely rad breaking physics of the SM
Shit can kill people if you like it or not
At least for a TEG your own incompetency is not everyone's problem
I remember on another server, a guy named Richard Turk would say he's "turking" the SM, and would run it super fucking strong, to the point where they had to PR a fix to make walls better at blocking rads.
He was breaking the geiger counters to the point where they would read 0, but people on the bridge of the station (about 25 to 40 squares away) were dying of radiation poisoning.
Exactly my point
And also IPCs currently don't take rad
So this is just calling for a goob demon core 2.0
Incident
Although honestly the thought of such a thing is pretty fun
We're gonna have a "I'm rubeebeeing it"
Yeah uh Dont Fucking Board Atmos Ships
Also, this is fully optional
If your making a sm then, JUST MAKE SURE WHERE YOUR CREW SPAWNS HAS RADSUITS or soemthing
It's not board Atmos ships it's shell Atmos ships going near stations
Just give MD and CO rad immunity or sumthin
The other stations suffer
True
Well I think as far as rads don't travel in space tiles then SM ships are technically possible
TurkMatter
π Also if you dont sant your crew dying, get them rad/engi hardsuits, or just. **rad insulation **
Either way this is a way to free 02 and plasma and power but not for free free
True
Plus who doesnt want a new Rammy Rammy tool?
( imagine timing a sm explosion to a ram
)
truly a zealots of balaam ship idea
Make it delete walls & tiles if loose
( unanchored, be it ramming, bombing. Or whatever )
Does mono even have an SM? never seen one
i dont think so
Nope
Not yet
Horizon energy is energyin..
horizon do be energiyng
OooOo you want to sprite me the new thrusters OoOooOo
im learning one skillset at a time!
windreign exists now
YES
YES YES YES
That, and the fact we have a TEG Crate in game
means GLORY
HOLY SHIT GLORY
@hushed basin im gonna eep but give feedback on the windreign, been watching you use it for a while
also feedback on the strato-rat would be nice as input for the nicer version coming soon TM
The one thing I can say is I LOVE the feeling of having a crew that splits off to do their things and come back perfectly. This has been a BLAST
the only issue I've seen has been a really weird glitch if you have two ships docked
One is fine, and you can warp well enough
but it seems like if you have two, it can't handle it and undocks them automatically if you warp
i think thats probably carrier wide, lots of bugs with that sort of thing
yeah, this is definitely breaking territory that hasn't been deeply tested before
like rarely did anyone use even the Tumour from TSF
carriers are overall underused because most suck
this is the first time I've tried a carrier, so it's been a fun time
now I'm worried I said something stupid while you were observing 
I SWEAR, I'M JUST ADDICTED TO CHEM AND MAKING CHEMS FOR EVERY SITUATION
ah, yeah, I bought a Skalpel and moved the medfab, and chemmaster on
along with chemvend
i started watching like 20 minutes before the resomi went SSD and suffocated in the bar 
mainly because we had someone die because they SSD'd with their O2 on
yeah
exactly
we DID find a replacement heart
and got them back alive
II honestly thought they were safe
but then they left O2 on
so it ran out
tale as old as time
lmk what you'd like to see featured in a better gas feeder though, right now im thinking;
better tank (obviously)
arcade machine for entertainment while mining
multiple drills
better setup so it empty's faster
honestly, the food area you put into the Windreign made me so happy
food in deep space is such a tragedy
I would definitely love on a Strato-Rat Mk2 to have some custom filters on the in-pipe, mainly just one or two if you want to get rid of specific gases. Some like Water Vapor I never use, so I usually pre-vent that since it wastes space on the round about
one thing I really wish is we had a Very-Wide-Range scanner which could tell us how many signals of gas there were within 500m
FUCK YEAH
Yippie
After a session of it, I can say it's been an absolute BLAST.
Only technical issue seemed to be like we said before with the carrier "two or more ships docked will cause a failure issue and leave ships behind on warp", but that can't be fixed anytime soon since that's a limitation of the carrier system.
For the layout, I found it great! The central chamber worked really well for a TEG setup, along with Frezon! Had a crew manning it, and we all split our roles relatively well. We even had someone who was focused on cooking, cleaning, and medbay work. One thing I look forward to is eventually having some kind of superwide gas deposit scanner (hopefully that comes with Windreign, as a terminal), something that can pinpoint gas deposits so we can find a decent place using the Windreign and then send out the BEES!~
With the Strato-Rats, flying them was great. Only thing I ended up doing later was throwing a few PTK turrets on the front next to the pulsar, to quickly clear fields since I needed to quickly find Oxygen ones to fill our tanks (We burned through so much of it for the Trit loop, it was insane and amazing). I ended up hitting up the Trade Mall to buy several construction and ore boxes, mainly to give my crew something to throw on the Strato-Rats for materials harvesting. Sometimes we forgot to bring them with us, which meant a round trip to the Windreign mothership lol.
Another thing I would love on the Strato-Rats is some kind of air sensor and air alarm to see how much gas is inside the chamber. Sometimes I was pumping to the brim, and wouldn't realize I had maximized the volume and pressure already. I'm betting I overlooked an atmospheric alerts console you put in the Strato-Rat, so if I did, please let me know!
Research facility worked really well, I appreciate the superstrong walls. I ended up dying from my own hubris, but the ship's walls were still perfect!
The hardest game thing for the Windreign is how much people have to be in for the literal "long haul" when it comes to flying one. I was prepared to put in 6 hours to help Captain it, but I can understand few can give that much into it. I think in the future, I'll see about using an Antlion AND a Strato-Rat, using one to scout through rocks, and the other to actually gas mine.
(Also I may have to look into requesting to boost the frequency of vents per "active" roid, since it's frustrating to only see two asteroids with vents, and it's JUST water vapor, meaning less interaction for gas miner crews)
large thruster π
people don't realise those girls are meant for big ships
its funny 
i cant how bad is it
doable 
bro..
i'll try it with and worst case remove it
ought wierd sprite
you get used to seeing the exhaust
hmm
i think it still may be too smol
aslo
this is pretty wild
Yeah general had whined enough about Atmos mining that we got a good boon
Hip hip hooray to the miners
I mean hey, a buff is a buff
Gotta take it
It'll be fun seeing how the Windreign works with the capacity buff, guessing multiple round trips to the same asteroids will be a thing now which is cool!
Also as long as I dont get RRd by an artifact again lol, lost more than 800k that round
slowly coming together
jesus christ
how
Paid for windreign, paid crew ahead of time 50k each, bought the TEG and extra stuff from TM, bought material silo and a few fans to help with compact layout in TEG room.
26KW
thrusters alone

we grinding in this house
big thruster is actually the best thing ever
i think it will be fun
i may need to shoehorn in some more side and or reverse thrusters
This has been the best action atmos has had in forever, and I love it
but the big one will never not be funny
i might make a vgroid with thrusters just because of it
like imagine

its only 16kw right now
yeah mbad I added 10KW out of inner spite
You can always drag a roid
Unless it's far
Or you're willing for a 5 minute trip
oh yeah, I dragged a roid far enough one time for it to despawn and take a bunch of my equip with it lol
Rip
the thruster is backwards bossman
fixed it already
yey
no dont, prank em john
how's this for a gopher tank? idea is you filter to start, then goes into passive vents and air injectors to fill the tanks. When you want to offload, you close the air injector valve, open the backflow valve (next to the filters), and it goes right out the same gaslock it came in
probably done working on it for the day, feedback appreciated
how it looks docked with the windreign, i have to slim it down a little at the front to make it work
ohhh, good idea!
tbh the manual valve idea is great
you'd have to use catwalks/just leave the tank unfloored so people can see where the pipes are going without an tray
also color code them
to prevent confusion
plasma lake infiltration
it infiltrates the ground and makes plasma deposits
idk im not a atmosnerd
peak ( the blue tiles are plasma atmosfix too )
Unless I'm misreading the pipes, I would make the chamber take multiple gas filter outputs as an option, instead of filtering off a few gasses to waste and storing the rest.
Most deposits have trace amounts of all kinds of stuff including plasma or tritium, and if you arent going for those they will ruin your mix by combusting. Additionally theres almost always 5+ trace gasses you dont care for, and if you do you can get them all via the full deposit line. Otherwise, getting only plasma for instance is probably your goal so being able to just filter that off from the start is most handy
Also doesnt look like theres anywhere for your gas mining equipment to go if your gas chamber is in use, which could be worth swapping to directional windows or something for more space to fix.
Big thruster zoom, but worries me Im going to smash these into asteroids 
This is a issue thats solved by the end user rotating the filter, i'd rather have that setup by default and let the end user make a easy modification to their needs.
You can enter the gas chamber while its full as long as you have a hardsuit and arent running any sort of burn, which it is not designed for. also leans into the general "small gas mining vessel made to be as space efficient as possible" im kinda going for.
it is surprisingly controllable
I dont see where you can rotate a filter to do this but maybe thats just me and its tradition to rework any atmos ship at this point anyway so it fits the theme
One other thing is there anything to help clear the deposit? I know the strato rat has a mining pulsar on it that is quite nice to have, since this is the upgrade it should get more right?
it will have two pulers
i need to actually test the filter thing i may have made that up
your right, there isnt, so i threw in a T pipe on the side so their is. wont affect anything else, all you need to do to convert is unanchor the filter and rotate, mabye invert
wait
hold on
yeah you need to invert but still easy
tiling pass
dont u se those tiles in the tank, theyre uncrowbarable
meaning you cant open them up to replace the pipes blow
below, rather
use reinforced floors instead
gotcha
that or just leave them untiled
make a catwalk on paths you'd think people would walk on if you'd like
thats what i did on the phaeron's tank
current version of the strato-gohper (not deadset on the name)
I wanna eat it
what...
about a 250kmol tank
i have ran into a issue
which should have been predictable
even with a hardsuit you do take pressure damage when it gets like HIGH
like above 4500 kpa
graaah
if the ship works without walking in the tank smoking atmosians will also thank you π
yeah its just a space issue
i dont want to make it bigger than it is
and i want to have three drills
yeah i have to make the tank smaller, no other way
there are two windreigns and three arribanes active right now 
Love to see it
Is the chief engineering hardsuit immune to it
idk i only tested ERT stuff
Yes Reesha, I believe the Daedalus CE suit is immune
Used to use it to fix SM delams on other servers
I can test it in debug mode to confirm
nevermind
I think that's mainly for other mods
tested it with tritium
I'll try with just 4500kPa
so the Daedalus suit works with 4500kPa, just not extreme pressures like from Tritium
that will 100% need to be changed if we ever get SM crystals in Monolith.
SM crystals without the CE Daedalus suit having pressure immune + heat immunity + SM ashing immunity is not good.
Damn
it was only a small fire
Funny considering IPCs are probably immune to ALL radioactivity and pressure
oh yeah I should test that
I know it's funny that IPCs will be affected by cold of space
My idea is that they feel it but for some reason have 0 reason to fear it
The cold is just the cold
yup
it's like people who have no pain receptors
or I mean
opposite of it
they have pain receptors, but take no damage from it
Just any way to get harmed by the cold
so it's kinda like having to brush it off
yup! confirmed, IPCs can bathe
in lots of radss
sadly, my organic friend was not so lucky, about 2 minutes into them joining me.
just a couple dozen litres of Stelloxadone, Traumoxadone, and Doxirubixadone should help them
You can basically make a rad death chamber
And IPCs won't tick
And also IPCs don't suffer from pressure related issues so you can just
Walk into a trit fire with a fire proof suit and live
I wonder....
IPC supremacy
all I have on
yeah, so IPCs are basically king for that then
they are the only ones who will survive it
so that's really amusing... the CE suit will cause an IPC to overheat
but the Atmos Fire Suit is perfectly immune to temperature
so on Monolith, the Atmos Fire Suit with something like fish heart is probably enough?
that kinda saddens me.. the CE suit is supposed to match the Atmos Fire Suit in heat immunity
after the feature freeze is over, I may have to check into that and see if we can equate the two to have the same features, and maybe move the CE suit up to the same tier slot as Experimental Salvager
because if they ever add the SM, and the CE Daedalus suit is NOT feature equivalent to other servers that have SMs, we will have people ashing immediately on use, dying in delam incidents, and be unable to handle it without heavy risk from atmos fire suits.
hey atmos nerds
im trying to make a abbandoned atmos poi
what broken setup should do i do for this place's teg
asteroid is fucking GASFULL
@tawdry meadow @agile kraken ineed to know how do you setup the TEG so i can do a incomplete setup for the poi im working on
anyways fun
funny thing, i don't know TEG
never learnt it
π
make like two loops
my atmos poi is OVER because of you.. how COULD you....
with connector ports
aig
teg area
use broken pipes all around
turn off spawns so we can see i beg
there should be a burn chamber in there somewhere
hm, i could set one up
burnchamb-her
needs a vent to space and should be 4x3 max
my this i mean blast doors to space
shouldn't be too hard, cooling loop nearby
cooling loop
this good?
input should probably be pressure pump, needs a default output scrubber leading to a volumetric pump
and a air alarm + sensor but otherwise yeah
this is a peak SS14 moment
anyways
ok
so
plasma into burnroom
oxy also into burnroom but that pipe broke
there would be a mixer but yeah
and pressure pumps should prooooobably be the output for miners
aiger
also
what does t he volume variant on a gas deposit mean
im trying to make a mega deposit
probably the actual total mols
fuck thats a unchangeable variable
that sucks
grr i hate you variables
yeah that should work
atleast when not initialized
i think total mols is fake
uhh idk how much gas do you want out of it
( you are gonna have to fight atleast 30 zombies/asteroid creatures )
just 4x big ones is like 240 Kmol
the Very Very Very Very very large deposit
dayum
well this is as large was like
9
if you want like
so i'll give it atleas 560 kmol
realisticly the drills can only mine so fast
yeah thats a bit of the point
for the massive deposit
pofi
lotsa moles.
wish i could modify this so it was af rezon one tho
go my asteroid creatures. dont let them get the deposit
that would be a new depsosit type
which you could and proabably should do
it would be but litteraly all OF my yaml attempts
have ended in it not working
( groundbreaker just. wont fucking show up ingame??? at all? in my localhost )
wdym groundbreaker
linter?
YAML Linter
FU-
just make a terminal (three dots in the top left, somewhere in there)
then dotnet build wait, then dotnet run --project Content.YAMLLinter
err
does git bash work for a terminal
or
is it in vscode
in vs code, you can open a terminal
π€·ββοΈ
theres also
if you go to file explorer, the repo, scripts, .bat
there should be a linter thing there
huh, ok
this correct?
probably
aig, gon run that later so it doesn't break my current localhost
also how do you like
do grid variants
i need to mkae this into a station
the big deposit
if you wanted to go above and beyond
you could make prismatic plasma
if it doesn't already exist actually
and put it in that vein
doesn't exist yet
also
yeah i could but
how does this basicly random asteroid
have prismatic p-
actually
hmmm
@blazing geyser yo would it be possible for a random asteroid atmos POI ( WITH A big gas deposit ) to be able to have prismatic plasma?
gives a reason for why the atmos facility is there of all places
prismatic plasma isnβt even fully implemented yet
Prismatic plasma only comes from monuments
An atmos facility could spawn near it though
hm
i suppose
this is a like
abbandoned atmospherics facility
its not too doubtable to say it mighta drifted off
hm, technnicaly it'd still be in the sector, so i suppose not
unless the asteroid some fucking how
drifted all the way from a monument
to the sector
and some techs found it
i did add this though
( 837 kmol of plasma )
my gas mining drills are too strong for you, traveller
what you SHOULD do
which would be cool
is make gas mining drills a machine so you can replace parts
so you can actually upgrade drills
ooor
and you could tie this in with research
have hyper efficient drills that output gas at higher temps
or different temps
higher actually
so you have to cool it to efficiently store it
I'm assuming the reason that gasdocks aren't craftable is because people would abuse them
but I really wish they were
docking stuff is in the flatpack vend
so you could probably add a gaslock thing to that
iirc
its probably just nobody added it rather than people are explicitly against it
im not good enough at yaml sadly
hm, yeah i could yaml diamond drills maybe
this one makes the gasses you mine at 582.6 celsius
so
yes
you need to cool it down
yeah, those external gaslocks are not decon/constructable in-game
so you have to use it where it lays on your ship
the only way you can really "edit" is by using the portable gaslocks, but they can only be docked to
true..
you can't tell them to initiate a dock
tho atmos is immune to lava
so
you know
just put a gaslock over the lavat o drill from the big deposit 
@tawdry meadow summoning you for naming the facility idea
current ide ai got is <something>-Nexus (NUMBER)
whomost ping me
i made cool atmos facility
thats]
oh and also
857320 moles
of plasma

anyways scrol up i made the facility
i also require a idea for facility name
PLASMA MAJOOOOOR
downside thats not listed
THIS IS SUCH A SKIBIDY BANGER
GAS MINERS STAY WINNIIIIING
i suggest something like
Mining Outpost Hades-21
or something along those lines
hm
good idea but that attracts the miners
Gas-Mining Outpost HADES-21
souns better
they really stay winning
tho you need to cool your gasses from this
figures, still! a good tradeoff for basically having all the plasma you'd want
one can set up a cooling system for the gas nozzle and gas tanks anyways
especially with the phaeron
inbuilt cooling loop too
grrr damn you saves
yippie
now someone gotta pr this shit for me im bad 
started the grid
holy fuck sauna has water vapour
thats so evil
SAUNA USES WATER VAPOR
SO FUCKING EVILL..
im scheming
go my rads
the map if you wanna pr it
im not good at pring POIS + its missing grid VV stuff & a grav gen + station anchor
so you gotta patch the grid VV
then do the yaml for the poi
not exactly the most efficient, but that works!
bro the miners are gonna be sooo relaxed while they mine plasma
if you want, you can pr this probably, im likely not gonna do it cuz pr hard + im a goober ( i fucking hate yaml )
im not gonna lie, you might have to ask @tawdry meadow or @pulsar zealot
i have no experience PRing anything that isnt a ship
True...........................
runtestsYAML doesn't work for some reason, says some stuff is broken?
also when i tried this again
this happened
@tawdry meadow yo do you think you can pr this? Needs grid variable changed though, to be a station + missing anchor & grav gen, Other thsn that stuff i could maybe fix, i have no idea how to pr a station
fair tbh
Bro i have zero fucking ideaπ
do you have python 3 and dotnet 9. something installed
specifically this
dotnet is installed, i dont think python is sinze i use code studio