#General how do we make the game better suggestion channel

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cobalt warren
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I was wrong, anaconda is a medium ship

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XD

elfin wolf
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its literally EUROPA + 2 fucking charons

gray perch
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anaconda isnt capital yeah I mispoke

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but its a contender

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it can fight capitals easily

nova pond
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i have never hit a non-civilian ship with them

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they are just

gray perch
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LOL

cobalt warren
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europa is large

gray perch
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europa is huge

elfin wolf
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dude serpent is literally europa + 2 charons

nova pond
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non-combatant seeking rockets

elfin wolf
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its a large bag of SHIT thats what it is it has no DPS it has no armor

cobalt warren
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and I have no idea what the fuck the USSP capital is named so I won't bother

elfin wolf
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it is dogshit

gray perch
cobalt warren
gray perch
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iirc

cobalt warren
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flashpoint is a merc ship my guy

gray perch
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is it?

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bad memory

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lemme double check code

elfin wolf
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any fucking moron with a charon can kill a europa unless they have brain damage

cobalt warren
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no its

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not bad memory

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I saw ussp people buying flashpoints and using em a lot recently

gray perch
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ah

cobalt warren
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but no its a merc ship

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mil ship

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oh its

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flashpoint is a medium ship smh

gray perch
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I need to find a keyword for capital ships that isnt just

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capital

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cuz thats gonna suck to search

cobalt warren
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medium, large, capital

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small

elfin wolf
gray perch
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I havent seen a flashpoint that isnt USSP

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at all lol

elfin wolf
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dont even talk about when i tcomes to ship balance between TSF and rogues

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TSF has it better

gray perch
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mxied messages here lolll

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cobalt warren
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its the Tunguska

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Serpent is

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Large

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Tunguska is classed as large too

elfin wolf
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and everyone knows TSF has it better and no nerfing the already dogshit rogue fleet isnt going to fix any fucking problems its just going to make ship combat for rogues even more miserable

gray perch
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there are no capital class ships in code rn i believe

gray perch
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rogue can pump out more though

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I'd 100% take a fracture over an anaconda

elfin wolf
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but thats wrong

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how much does 1 dagger cost?

cobalt warren
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can we go back to the earlier discussion instead of whatever this is

elfin wolf
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its 90k

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its 90k guys thats cheap as fuck and it gets a charon

cobalt warren
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used to be 60k XD

gray perch
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daggers are scrap bait

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cooked by tethys

elfin wolf
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buddy I once soloed a entire TSFMC fleet with a dagger

gray perch
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im sure you did bud

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sure you did

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anyways

cobalt warren
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unironically

gray perch
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@cobalt warren I dont think we have any capital ships anymore

elfin wolf
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dagger is good in the hands of players who know how to use a charon

cobalt warren
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Legionnaire beats dagger most of the time

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that's correct

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there's none

gray perch
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legionnaire is terrifying

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cuz EMPs are

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OP

cobalt warren
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yeah but

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fracture is

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op

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XD

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not its fault

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Tarynxs are just silly

gray perch
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EMPs like phasing through walls

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and EMPing the cockpit

cobalt warren
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its a 20 range emp what'd you expect

gray perch
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EMP explosion radius is just way too big

elfin wolf
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it should always be a support role

gray perch
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2 front facing cyrexas and 2 front facing EMPs

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is fucking bewildering

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the fracture is probably the strongest ship the TSF has right now

cobalt warren
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its like someone looked at the Legionnaire and said "Oh, that 65k ship? Way too overpriced. Lets make a 85k ship that oneshots people instead"

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I was told that

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Legionnaire was expensive because it had emps

gray perch
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im pretty sure starch is against the existence of capital ships, I dont remember why

cobalt warren
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compared to its uh, actual wepaonry

gray perch
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I love huge ships

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I miss legionnaires old internal layout

elfin wolf
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fracture only works when it has a good pilot and is used from long range

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serpent is the real MVP

gray perch
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Serpent has a giant blindspot in the back

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two

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actually

elfin wolf
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serpent also has

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enough gyroscopes

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that it doesnt matter

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just turn the ship around br

gray perch
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I love watching serpents start spinning

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because its really easy to dodge a spinning ships projectiles

elfin wolf
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wrong

cobalt warren
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General how do we make the game better suggestion channel

elfin wolf
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its not easy to dodge it

cobalt warren
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there

elfin wolf
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its hard to shoot when spinning

cobalt warren
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now we are on topic

gray perch
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usually they have to overcompensate

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just switch to park

elfin wolf
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because for some reason

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when youre firing charon when turning

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it carries your ships rotational speed

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weird af

gray perch
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serpents real skill is its ramming capabilities

cobalt warren
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wait

gray perch
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those spikes on its front

elfin wolf
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it actually goes the direction youre turning instead of going straight at your target

gray perch
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will instantly decimate anything

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I cleaved a europa in two using the serpent spikes

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I prefer the polaris over the serpent heavily tho, I would rather the polaris

cobalt warren
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Can we make a channel dedicated to talking balance maybe

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or a thread I mean

elfin wolf
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nah

gray perch
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never happening

elfin wolf
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return to main topic

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now

cobalt warren
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real

gray perch
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buff TSF nerf rogues remove USSP

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I fixed the game

elfin wolf
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you should be banned from the game if you think thats fixing the game

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the game balance isnt even the problem

gray perch
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no need to thank me

elfin wolf
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nah no need to thank you but maybe a ban would be nice

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permanent and no appeal

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lmao

gray perch
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Thank you for holding the applause

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it gets so repetitive

elfin wolf
gray perch
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pretty sure that goobmin got demoted

echo gazelle
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They did

gray perch
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for obvious reasons

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I dont remember their name

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think theyre banned too

elfin wolf
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who cares bro

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its a joke gif

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can you like stop trying to turn this into a balance discussion

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the games problem clearly lies in a different place

gray perch
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grant us your wisdom

cobalt warren
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ok uh

elfin wolf
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TSFMC not coordinating with each other isnt because of their so shitty gear that make them capable of tanking 3 mags of .30

cobalt warren
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back to main topic of conversation

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coordination, flying together, crews, and solo shipping

gray perch
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A start of there being no coordination is we have three command roles, and two enlisted

elfin wolf
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mfw my factions hardsuit doesnt have 99 percent piercing protection and our ships dont have 300 cyrexas

cobalt warren
gray perch
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dude baited himself into talking about balance

cobalt warren
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even the jugsuit can't

gray perch
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holy shit

cobalt warren
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the real one

gray perch
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you cant make this up

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self baiting in real time

cobalt warren
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assuming, you don't miss

gray perch
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TSF don't coordinate unless theres a central objective which there rarely is

elfin wolf
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TSF has it

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rogues dont

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TSFs central objective is pretty clear

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theyre law enforcement

gray perch
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I mean their central objective is kinda loose

cobalt warren
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they were law enforcement

gray perch
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yeah

cobalt warren
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enforce what law

gray perch
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they dont really

cobalt warren
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space law?

gray perch
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have law

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to follow

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its martial law

cobalt warren
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Like

elfin wolf
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They enforce NFZ around contraband events stop smugglers and in general just enforce the law

cobalt warren
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I've done some enforcement of old relevant frontier law

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enforce... what... law?

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when I stop someone

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what law am I here to enforce

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where do I point to tell someone that they're doing a bad

gray perch
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its kinda hard to capture a criminal without gibbing htem

elfin wolf
cobalt warren
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or am I just making up laws

elfin wolf
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we have the same law as frontier

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we are using frontier space law

cobalt warren
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no one uses it

gray perch
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the law and martial law are different godo

cobalt warren
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it may as well not exist

elfin wolf
gray perch
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rogue sectors under martial law

elfin wolf
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bro just made it out of his ass

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I saw it come out

gray perch
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what

elfin wolf
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what martial law bro

gray perch
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@echo gazelle tell this guy the rogue sector is under martial law

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Im not geeking

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I know im not

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youve mentioned it before

elfin wolf
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when has any staff or monolith related sources have mentioned martial law

cobalt warren
elfin wolf
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ok but thats literally NCMC and they said likely

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we dont even have NCMC anymore

gray perch
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if the sector wasnt under martial law the military wouldnt be able to arrest you

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but they can because it is

cobalt warren
elfin wolf
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"When Im colonel"

gray perch
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last one is irrelevant

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yeah

elfin wolf
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also the other ones are old

gray perch
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anywho the military can arrest people because the sector is under martial law

cobalt warren
gray perch
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TSFs CoC is kinda irrelevant, youre colonel or you arent

cobalt warren
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anyways

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it doesn't matter cause

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the definition of martial law is

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"Military enforces the law"

gray perch
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nobody listens to anybody unless its an order from the colonel and even then theyll ignore orders sometimes

cobalt warren
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guess which military is enforcing the law

elfin wolf
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not really what martial law is about ngl

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also

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even if that is so

gray perch
elfin wolf
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theres no monolith written law

cobalt warren
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I guess it makes sense

gray perch
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nobodies taken it upon themselves to do that shit yet

cobalt warren
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CO and CL still exists

elfin wolf
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so still

cobalt warren
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so its not... true martial law

elfin wolf
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the official law

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is frontier space law

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theres law

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the problem is players dont care about it

cobalt warren
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still though, if this was realistic there'd be both a police force and a military force

gray perch
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the issue is frontiers space law doesnt slot in with ours

cobalt warren
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that isn't fuckin security guard

gray perch
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because their spacelaw is enforced by positions we dont have

elfin wolf
gray perch
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Its CoC

cobalt warren
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the only major thing in frontier space law outside of obvious shit like murder, failing to declare docking with STC, and bribery is like

its contraband

gray perch
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who sentences, whos the authority

cobalt warren
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its all fuckin contraband

gray perch
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yada yada

echo gazelle
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I might add a jammer to faction bases that only allow their radio through

gray perch
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erm

cobalt warren
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sounds fun

gray perch
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okay then

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Ark is lost

elfin wolf
cobalt warren
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would solve the issue of somehow adding implanters to everyone

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or something

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I dunno

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wait

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no that'd

elfin wolf
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you wouldnt be able to communicate on other channels

cobalt warren
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that'd make it

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yeah

elfin wolf
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or hear from them

cobalt warren
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you couldn't talk on common smh

gray perch
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@echo gazelle I think you should make it so the "you cant FTL near other ships" thing is actually run through a machine

cobalt warren
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or spy on rogue comms

gray perch
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the machine needs to be running and powered to stop you from FTLing

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civvies wouldnt have it

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FTL Inhibitor

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🙏

cobalt warren
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pretty sure that's on the to-do list already

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just uh

echo gazelle
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I have no list

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I just work

cobalt warren
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yeah

gray perch
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so real king

cobalt warren
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too much

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right so

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we were talking about coordination and purpose of factions

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Its kinda fun being an enforcement agent or whatever

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there is

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law to enforce

echo gazelle
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Need me a Lore Council of the smartest and most loyal players who Mono their lith

cobalt warren
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martial law or however the fuck you name it

gray perch
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Ive suggested lore team many a time

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me, redrover, and oktober frequently talk about lore

cobalt warren
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we need the trauma lore team

gray perch
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but its kinda like

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all into the void

elfin wolf
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but I never got to it

echo gazelle
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I'll probably handpick those interested and give them their own private channels to discuss

gray perch
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that would be coolsauce

echo gazelle
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They will get fancy icon

cobalt warren
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yay...

gray perch
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right now the discussions are just

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flooded out in general or suggestions

cobalt warren
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regardless, lore is more a supporting element for roleplay and stuff

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important but

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supporting

elfin wolf
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I think lore decisions

echo gazelle
gray perch
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HES A CADET

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HES A TSF CADET

echo gazelle
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He thinks the TSFMC are police smh

elfin wolf
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law enforcement larper in my fragger faction??? banned

cobalt warren
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i mean

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people think sec are police lol

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so thats nothing new

echo gazelle
gray perch
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fr

echo gazelle
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Some become obsessed

cobalt warren
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trueee

echo gazelle
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While I sit here thinking, "I, Code."

elfin wolf
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big lore decisions should be decided in polls

cobalt warren
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then they shout anime voicelines how the TSF murdered their ancestors to the 11th generation

echo gazelle
elfin wolf
cobalt warren
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democracy is a lie

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you know that right

elfin wolf
cobalt warren
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but yeah space law was legit just murder and theft and contraband

elfin wolf
cobalt warren
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good point

elfin wolf
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the problem isnt space law problem is unwillingness of players to roleplay it and coordinate their efforts

cobalt warren
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I mean I know there's actually like 28 or so different crimes on the list, some being major versions of others

cobalt warren
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Imagine turning IFF on as TSF

elfin wolf
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anything different then murder theft and contraband just concerns the CO security guard

elfin wolf
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if they did it wouldnt be like this

cobalt warren
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coordinate their efforts to enforce the law that sorta needs to be rewritten for monolith but

elfin wolf
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Battles would be rarer but larger

cobalt warren
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assuming it is rewritten

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yeah

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still

elfin wolf
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Which is exactly

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what we want

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rarer but larger

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more fun

cobalt warren
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charon ambush makes stuff like that risky

elfin wolf
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more coordinated

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well

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not really

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if they were coordinated it would be easier to deal with a charon

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it has long reload

cobalt warren
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maybe but

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imagine you're here to enforce the law right

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someone does a bad thing so you scream at Tzipora CIV-533 to depower or whatever

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rogues learn of it, jump 1000m away, boom you from off radar distance in one shot

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you ever gonna do that again?

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because its not like TSF are mechanically incentivized to enforce the law or anything

elfin wolf
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I can assure you

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unless you royally fuck up

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rogues arent gonna find out

elfin wolf
cobalt warren
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as well, what law? its not like we have a set upon law or whatever

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I know

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its LRP and stuff

elfin wolf
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theft

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contraband

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blackmarketeering

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4 basic crimes

echo gazelle
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Could probably base off Frontier and then adapt it

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Major cutting

elfin wolf
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editable by everyone who wants to contribute

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For lore

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for game information

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for gameplay loop guides

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for laws and SOP

cobalt warren
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yep

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a wiki would be good

royal seal
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We also need a fob that isn't terrible @cobalt warren

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Yknow

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Actual holding cells and maybe a perma with things for prisioners to do

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It'd be nice if fob had more flavour shit like empty rooms to set up science or hydroponics, or like, a better bar / cafeteria

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Hell even the docking ports on it sucks

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You can only dock one ship at a time on each port 💀

true tundra
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that way we dont have to worry about the prisoner dying on FOB and revealing coords

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make it similar to the spawn of rogue hideout

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super high security TSF prison in the middle of nowhere

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or give it an actual beacon IFF

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so its like a place oto visit inmates

cobalt warren
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ye

rose bane
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Make it like

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stuk into a really large vgroids

cobalt warren
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thats on the to do list i think

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tho liike

rose bane
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with 3 or 1 dungeons

elfin magnet
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Someone

cobalt warren
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fob public is my wish

elfin magnet
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Just do the gateways

rose bane
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if we give them the ability to mine a vgroid that'd be really cool

elfin magnet
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They're already in game

rose bane
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WHAT

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TWHERE

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WHERE???

elfin magnet
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I just don't understand how the fuck does generation work

rose bane
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WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE GATEWAYS

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WHERE??

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WHERE ARE THEY LOCATED

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WHAT IS THEIR IFF

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WHEN

elfin magnet
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somewhere

rose bane
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atleast listening post has a pinpointer..

true tundra
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thatd be a cool thing to do for like alkatraz level punishment

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"to gain your freedom you must risk your life using this stargate and bringing back ### materials"

elfin magnet
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That's what I was thinking

rose bane
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supernoob please wheres the fucking gateway tell me..

elfin magnet
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But I literally cannot understand expedition generation, and because of that they give an error

elfin magnet
true tundra
rose bane
rose bane
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what??

true tundra
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when you PORT it

elfin magnet
true tundra
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afaik i have never seen a gateway out of goobs shit stations with them integrated like hallways

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and on submarine

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both sucked ass

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it could be vanilla but i dont know ss14 code at ALL

rose bane
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he told me atleast

true tundra
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oh sick

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WHERE IS THE FUCKING GATEWAY SUPERNOOB

elfin magnet
rose bane
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fetch me the souls of who added these

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elfin magnet
true tundra
rose bane
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I WANT TO GO MINE IN EXPEDS

elfin magnet
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I mea

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I mean

rose bane
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😠

elfin magnet
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It's in the spawn menu

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But it's fuckin broken

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generations are not generating stuff

rose bane
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aW

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when fix pr?

hidden sonnet
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More war

elfin magnet
rose bane
true tundra
rose bane
true tundra
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its not broken its just a placeholder

rose bane
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ah

fair cargo