#More in depth roleplay NLR rules

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wide tundra
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You should forget everything up to the start of the shift as a clone of your previous self on respawn. You may know that you had to be cloned or that there were other clones of you however.

Normal cloning is not limited, they have your brain still and can do a memory transfer.

jade vale
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Honestly I just disagree because I think that's boring and a little frustrating. Death is already annoying. Having to get your crew to bring you up to speed on everything if you gotta respawn would be annoying if you gotta do that every time

wide tundra
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its called roleplay

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and consequences for pressing respawn instead of ending up being revived

jade vale
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I don't think you need to make characters forget everything to incentivize roleplay

wide tundra
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roleplay is consequences for actions

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you killed someone, they don't get revived, they respawn and forget what happened

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there's no reason for them to remember if they weren't recovered

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and cloned or revived on site with their actual brain

jade vale
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What's stopping surviving crew from just.. telling you and rendering that bull and void?

wide tundra
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cause

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that's roleplay

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and that's assuming surviving crew exists

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they survived, so you get to learn of what your other clone did

jade vale
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It could literally just be a sentence.

"Hey mate. X killed you"
"Oh. Shit. Well that I can't abide. Let's kill em"

wide tundra
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outside of NLR

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obviously

jade vale
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I mean if your suggested rule goes through. That's what I'd do

wide tundra
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what if

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they don't know

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or you went off on your own

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those are the points

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if only you knew something and you die and respawn you should not know that thing

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simple

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if you die and get revived you should know that thing

jade vale
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"hey saw you died on the medical comms. pretty sure you might've been killed. I think I know who"

wide tundra
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you're not making arguments of why this is bad roleplay though

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or bad for the game

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obviously there are ways around it and this is to be expected

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this is good

jade vale
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Because my stance is more that I dislike it. I don't have argumentation on if it's good or bad

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I just personally don't like it

wide tundra
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that's fair

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death is

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annoying

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its supposed to be a setback, and its supposed to not be fair

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especially if you unfortunately aren't revived in round, one way or another

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if you click respawn, you forfeit that character's round, whether its a clone or otherwise

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fresh start

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"respawn"

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I'd personally argue this rule already exists because doing otherwise is just NRP behavior

jade vale
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I think me and many others might just ignore that.

Because death is already a setback enough as it is

wide tundra
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death and respawning

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just dying doesn't do anything

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maybe wait a while, maybe you'll get revived

jade vale
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You already had to wait ten minutes

wide tundra
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or turn on suit sensors and stuff

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you might get revived, be able to recover your ship

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your stuff

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and keep your memories

jade vale
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Or just. Respawn on ship because you had a clone blue spaced in

wide tundra
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you aren't allowed to go back for your old stuff

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on respawn

jade vale
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I know for a fact that rule is violated constantly

wide tundra
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well

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I guess I should try and watch for it then

jade vale
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Because I know a good number of Merc crews who keep slots open

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Or open slots.

wide tundra
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shit behavior doesn't excuse more shit behavior smh

jade vale
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Frankly I don't think that's shit behavior in most cases

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I think it's just people playing casually and just wanting to play the game

wide tundra
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its against the rules, you are pretending your death never happened

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I mean

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that's fair

jade vale
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No it happened

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You did die

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But death is an annoyance. And that's pretty much it

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Like in character death is t really that big of a deal

wide tundra
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it really shouldn't be, death is substantial

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respawn is even more substantial

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you aren't even, the same damn person anymore

jade vale
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Sure you are

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Sure the skin and the nerves are different

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Maybe the grey matter is new meat

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But the mind and soul are the same

wide tundra
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i mean

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codewise thats not true but ok

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mind is, definitely not the same

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you aren't an identical copy of your clone

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you weren't cloned on site, you're a backup

jade vale
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Dunno. Im 28 clones in. I don't feel too different.

wide tundra
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well that's cause respawn memory forgetness doesn't exist smh

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well, forced forgetness

jade vale
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Sure it does.

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I can't remember anything from when I died forward.

wide tundra
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makes no sense to magically remember 3 hours where you weren't cloned or backed up at all

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after you hit respawn

jade vale
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I've had a few deaths where I was there. And very suddenly. I wasn't. (Gibbed my 220 or Charon)

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Why not?,

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Blue space is literally magic

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God's probably exist.

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No they have proven they do.

wide tundra
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I dunno... basic logic, consequences to actions, I know you aren't actually trying to debate and that you just dislike the rule but still

jade vale
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Well I kinda am.

wide tundra
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you're telling me cloning is magic

jade vale
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I don't know how cloning works

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Night as well be magic

wide tundra
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real

jade vale
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I know wizards and gods exist.

I know I don't remember anything before I died

And I know I remember everything just before that moment

wide tundra
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If there was actual lore behind it I suppose that makes sense

jade vale
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I always took it at face value

These things are true. There's prolly a reason they are true.

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Just because I don't know what reason doesn't make it any less true. I've lived through that 28 times now.

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Least that's how I look at it through carries perspective

wide tundra
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mhm

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I am mostly concerned that respawn gameplay is replacing actual reasonable "caring for your life" gameplay

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and revivals

undone fern
wide tundra
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or you could just buy a new ship and start over I guess

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I dunno

jade vale
wide tundra
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expeds are

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brutal tho

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they shouldn't delete your body

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just kill you and throw you in your ship or something or

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anything else than that

jade vale
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Frankly I kinda wish expeds timers weren't there but I get why they are.

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So much lag otherwise.

undone fern
jade vale
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Mmmhmm

undone fern
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civilization at home

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open ship slots to get more people too

jade vale
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Yee

elfin marsh
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I approve thay tbh @undone fern

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Just get sci setup, stable power, chem, etc

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And just

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Make civilization in the dungeon