Rework ADS

[torn shale]

ADS ships are currently not worth to fight, and they just RDM everyone most of the time. They bring almost no RP to the game, and are just here to RDM. They need a rework.

[mighty harbor]

Yes.
They need docking ports
They need to spawn with money
They need a law rework

[hybrid sinew]

I do kinda hate them

[torn shale]

They need everything rework

[torn shale]

Everyone does

I literally just watched a random civillian get destroyed by 2 zenith's

[paper sundial]

They are not supposed to attack civilians so if you do see them do that then ahelp

[cyan solar]

add a blackbox that isnt destructible, appear on IFF like ship cannons and can be openned for loot

[torn shale]

I'll add this to my todo list, but i'm currently busy

[cyan solar]

ngl i could shitcode that but huh

i gotta fix my broken PR

[dense parrot]

having a more in-depth goal than "kill all military ships" would be a great start

[lyric nebula]

Giving them something specific to protect would be a good start I think

Maybe alter the laws to something along the lines of deterring people from accessing certain locations

Like the places that spawn in from events

[rapid crag]

''The Shadow Factory''

[crystal jay]

yeah ran into one today at MD, it came back after screaming and already killing a rouge ship, then proceeded to scream at the dead rouge ship it blew up because it lacked IFF, and a stray shot from its random shit hit my lil bar ship venting everything

[plush lantern]

Tbh

If we could more easily take the AI ourselves itd be more worth

What if we added intellicards to a lathe and all the law upload stuff so you could build an upload computer and a new core to pop the AI into

[rapid crag]

YEAHHH!! THEY ERASED BOTH AI SHIPS so mightaswell

Also flashpoont has a empty core and a kntellicard, but the only AIS in the game are uncardable

(Ads cant be carded)

And emptg cores cant be deconstructed either to put posibrain

[plush lantern]

Bruh

We need carding to be a thing

[rapid crag]

It is, but ads isnt

[dense parrot]

Weird

[rapid crag]

Ads has a carding blacklist seemingly

[plush lantern]

That should be changed

AI laws are only bound to the core itself iirc

[vague gale]

the AI will fire on every ship nearby and get you killed before you can change its laws

[vague gale]

tbh i think we should make them player bound

[plush lantern]

Nah

The point of this thread is to make ADS better

[vague gale]

having laws be tied to the player is an improvement

imo

[plush lantern]

It'd be more rewarding if you could actually take the AI and use it

Otherwise you can't really fix the AI

[vague gale]

we should just add an option to change laws on carded AIs

and add more interactions to a filled intellicard

like in 13 you can have the AI still Do Stuff

or you can disable its ability

to Do Stuff

[plush lantern]

Yeah but on 13 it's laws are bound to the chassis

Its just better that way lol

[vague gale]

then just make ADS cardable

and its peak

[vague gale]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[plush lantern]

Yah

[vague gale]

idk mannn

if we could change the AI's laws directly in the intellicard

and they transferred over to every chassis

that would be better

also, ai construction and deconstruction

is also something that we need

[plush lantern]

See the thing is

This would virtually do nothing

And be potentially a pain to code

The card can't do much physically, even on 13

So itd kinda be a mute point

There's no real benefit in doing a whole overhaul of it and potentially making tje code incompatible with other future merges we might want

[vague gale]

?

it lets you basically control the AI

wdym

you can toggle it's radio, it's interactions with shit, you can wipe it

[plush lantern]

Like

The AI itself

On the card

[vague gale]

it can do anything a normal AI can do except move it's viewpoint

it's stuck centered on the card

[plush lantern]

Really?

[vague gale]

but beyond that it still does everything else

yes

[plush lantern]

Why tf-

[vague gale]

you can even put it in modsuits

to have an ai buddy

that helps you

it can even help you walk so you move faster

bootleg IPC

[rapid crag]

Modsuit ais

Also, since we have ipcs

Maybe find dead ipc and put it into its posibrain

We NEED ai construction/ decinstruction bro

Dont just add the ai without a way to build more or deconstruct

[dense parrot]

eh

I like the idea of AI being something you can't build and instead something you have to steal from ADS or whatever

[rapid crag]

Flashpoint....

Thrn add law upliads n stuff

Uploads

To subvert ais to you

[plush lantern]

Yeah

That's all we need lol

[rapid crag]

Rahhhhh add exped ais for flashpoint or sumthin

WAIT

SILICON EXPEDS WITH ROGUE AI AS A SENTIENT MOB

Control turrets, rig doors, bolt em to prevent mission success

And if the mercs find you, they can take you for their own

[mighty harbor]

the bolting should have a do-after thingy to bolt, and a timer on it since the facility is rundown

[vapid bluff]

Antique power cells make them kind of worth it to a ipc player like myself