#Structural Update Request Regarding Docking Name B1 Or C1, Uplinks, and Financial Transparency

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proper salmon
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Final Note on Uplinks

Uplinks are currently being misused by officers for personal profit — especially through features like “Cold Money,” which allow large, undocumented cash extractions. This has rendered salaries meaningless, as individuals generate income independently without any accountability. Such misuse weakens the station’s financial structure and fosters unauthorized power groups, eroding the chain of command.

Therefore, all Uplink devices must be immediately removed from the pockets and inventories of all officers. Access to Uplinks must be strictly and permanently reserved for the Station Representative (SR) only. No other personnel should possess or interact with this system under any circumstance.

carmine gorge
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Okay firstly, the SR does not HAVE any subordinate officers. The colonel is in charge of the marines, so if uplinks should be restricted, it should be do the colonel, and probably also their captain(s) and lieutenant(s) assuming those non-whitelisted roles can be trusted with them.

The problem is also, sometimes TSFMC are busy enough as-is with just defending their FOB.
I genuinely think that having a specialized shield system for POIs that is not bubble focussed (meaning you cant bypass it up close) that also protects against things such as grenade explosions and ramming, would allow them to focus more on interacting with the rest of the community, maybe even remove the need to have a hidden FOB.

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The SR (or CL in this server) does not have any authority over the Marines, so them having an uplink does not make sense.

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I do agree that everybody getting an uplink is a problem. It removes any semblence of teamwork because why listen to your commanding officers if you have everything you need yourself. Restrict it to the colonel, and, depending on if they can be trusted with it, the cpts and lts.

As for them not helping where needed, this is primarily the result of them often being put on the backfoot/defense by rogues. Their firsty duty will always be to protecting their FOB. And as it is right now, even with all hands on active defense, that is VERY hard to do because the outposts only defense is active offense, it has no shields, no early warning system unless somebody is on radar 24/7, etc. And rogues can just, respawn, wait 15 minutes, and do it all over again.

Making it so that you cannot play rogue if you already have done so this round may even the scales there, or a hard-cap on rogue slots that you cannot exceed with the records console could also help.

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But as it stands from what I have seen, the TSFMC right now are a military force, at war with the rogues, who are too busy trying to defend themselves to be able to render aid to the rest of the sector

proper salmon
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Everything I said is true—some will like it, some won’t. And the louder someone argues, the clearer it is that they just don’t want uplink removed. Everyone will have their own reasoning, and you’ll all keep debating every point. But one thing I’ve taught is: you don’t need to reply to every comment unless it’s truly necessary. Now go ahead, argue among yourselves about what’s right or wrong. I’ll make my post too—just to remind you all that the rules are there to be followed, not debated

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tiny lynx
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???

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Doing your job gets you money

carmine gorge
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Thats one way to "win" an argument/discussion, just ignore all points made by everybody else LMFAOO

tiny lynx
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this shouldn't really be a surprise

carmine gorge
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This suggestion does not make sense. The SR does not have any authority over the TSFMC, and it does not make sense for them to hold their uplink. At that point, why does the colonel exist.

Dont get me wrong, I agree with the PROBLEMS listed in this suggestion, its just the solution makes zero sense.

tiny lynx
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Besides, money is useful for re-couping ship costs and stuff too

carmine gorge
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Right but that can be done with transparancy with help of your supervisors

tiny lynx
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you don't always have supervisors tho

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we had a big issue where there was no Colonel and thus no one ever got paid for being TSF

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so uh, no one did it

carmine gorge
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And now people are playing colonel more often

tiny lynx
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the ability to spend some fucs to recoup ship costs made it actually remotely playable

carmine gorge
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Also, when I say supervisors, I dont mean just the colonel

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I also mean lieutenants and captains

tiny lynx
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honestly just remove money from the uplink

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the only way to make money is to get paid by budget

carmine gorge
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That, + remove uplinks from non-supervisors. It kills teamwork because nobody needs their supervisors

tiny lynx
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doesn't make any sense

carmine gorge
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What doesnt?

tiny lynx
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you're supervisor is a leadership role, they buy ships and recruit crews and leads and guides

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they don't have to be the distributor of uplinks

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if this was Frontier I'd agree, only supervisors should get uplinks

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but Monolith is in a constant war

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there's not much reason to bother with that

carmine gorge
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I feel like the fact that the TSFMC is at constant war for their own survival is part of the problem

tiny lynx
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its always heat 3

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if TSFMC wasn't always needing to do everything they could to survive than there's reason for everyone not to be heavily armed and thus we could move back to Frontier's uplink system where things are restricted quite heavily based on rank

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but we uh, removed those restrictions for the most part

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brigmed has a lot of special stuff

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and maybe Colonel

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but thats about it

carmine gorge
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Brigmed can briefly loan an uplink from a supervisor to buy their limited items

tiny lynx
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anyways, only CL having an uplink is absurd, it could easily get stolen as a single point of failure and the CL has little to no relation to TSF for the vast majority of the time, their job is to manage CO, not go around and be the TSF's portable armory @proper salmon

tiny lynx
carmine gorge
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They can, thats how game mechanics work

tiny lynx
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you can only buy things based off your access

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the uplink isn't special per each role

carmine gorge
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The LT gives their uplink to the brigmed for a second, including enough FUCs for the brigmed to get what they need to get, the brigmed gets it, and then its handed back to the LT

tiny lynx
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I dunno, you sound like you're crazy

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cause, I don't see how thats fun or interesting

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or even good for the game

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it definitely seems tedious, the idea of literally arbritary things preventing you from doing your job if someone not of a high enough rank is around to let you borrow their uplink

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teamwork should be created and encouraged naturally, not by force

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reliance on each other, as well

carmine gorge
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It works fine on frontier, and forces you to actually work and roleplay together with your fellow marines. It wont work with the current state of game balance between rogues and tsfmc, but once thats fixed, this is a good thing.

tiny lynx
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not an issue

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just because its what frontier does doesn't mean its what monolith does and wants

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you still haven't said why its good

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outside "they must stick together" which, theres plenty of reasons to stick together

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that aren't "I need to use your uplink please"

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also, brigmedics and corporals get uplinks

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on frontier

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only privates don't

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and still don't

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so, I don't know where you are getting this from

carmine gorge
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If so, thats a recent change, and a bad one

tiny lynx
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justify it

carmine gorge
# tiny lynx you still haven't said why its good

Because I agree with the OP that the TSFMC right now has the wrong focus. It should be a helpfull and protective presence, with a lot less worry about maximizing personal profit. Supervisors can actually see to it that this is done, issue assignments and orders, and distribute the gear and resources for this as neccesary. If everybody has an uplink, there is nothing preventing somebody from going lone wolf, making shady deals with criminals, etc, and then profitting by briefly going to the FOB to convert to fucs, and then running off.

tiny lynx
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you make the assumption that supervisors are going to be less shady than non-supervisors

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there is no valid force that makes this true

cosmic phoenix
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the reason most TSFMC is so profit focused is since they have to pay to spawn, then pay for a ship thats going to often be destroyed and rendered unsellable

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if you make them able to not need to pay to spawn, not need to pay for their ships, then they wont be so money focused

carmine gorge
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Im making a seperate suggestion regarding the state of the TSFMC, and its relationship to the rogues balance wise

tiny lynx
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the game is economic based

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you can't remove that

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supervisors, at least, already get ship coupons for free though

cosmic phoenix
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then you cant expect TSFMC to do anything that doesnt make them money

tiny lynx
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If there is a Colonel, they will pay people for working

cosmic phoenix
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removing uplinks and giving it only to CL is a horrible fucking idea

tiny lynx
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enforce space law?

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if you wanted that, we should still have the NCMC

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instead, we got a military force

cosmic phoenix
tiny lynx
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and a total death of nonlethal stuns

cosmic phoenix
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im saying that what enzo wants is more cop force that does whatever CL wants

tiny lynx
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well

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agreed with that

cosmic phoenix
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and they seem to want TSFMC to do shit that wont make TSFMC any money, so no fucking reason for TSMFC to do it

tiny lynx
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I'm just saying we've moved away from a cop force

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and I doubt we're coming back

cosmic phoenix
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yeah, you shouldnt be a cop force

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your marines, with a goal to stabalise a sector, your not police, your military

tiny lynx
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I have, ideas in my brain about some kind of bounty hunter force maybe

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I dunno

cosmic phoenix
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TSFMC should be closer to a navy than police, its realisticly martial law in the sector

tiny lynx
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ye

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but with TSFMC becoming a military force, despite the maritial law, there is a gap left behind

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there are no police, no enforcement of anything outside of capital crimes

carmine gorge
tiny lynx
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except maybe smuggling

cosmic phoenix
carmine gorge
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Not with current game balance

tiny lynx
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what does this have to do with balance

carmine gorge
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But once that is fixed, that should be re-considered.

cosmic phoenix
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often there isnt a colonel, and if they have the uplink, rogues are going to instantly raid, take uplink, and leave

proper salmon
tiny lynx
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SR is CL

carmine gorge
tiny lynx
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unless you mean sheriff

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which in case, please use the right terms

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smh

cosmic phoenix
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uplinks sure, remove from everything below Liutentants, but TSFMC should be the ones with uplinks, not the paperwork man

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if you give paperwork man the uplink, paperwork man is going to be executed near instantly and robbed for it by rogues

carmine gorge
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Also, it appears you do not know how the game works: The CL has no authority/jurisdiction over the TSFMC, if you want to restrict it to a whitelisted/command role, theres this really cool role called Colonel whose job it is to be in charge of the marines.

tiny lynx
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SR (Station Representative)

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you play this role

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its Colonial Liason here

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you know that right?

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anyways, frontier is much more chill with very little happening

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so, they can get away with having few uplinks and not buying much of anything

proper salmon
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CL means Colonial liaison not station Representative

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Idiot

tiny lynx
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station rep does not exist here

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its called Colonial Liaison

cosmic phoenix
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there is no station rep

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tiny lynx
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are you on the wrong server?

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anyways, this does not change the points

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the Station Rep/Colonial Liaison does not have a job to babysit the marines

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They aren't a portable armory

cosmic phoenix
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CL is pretty much hop

tiny lynx
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not a warden

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giving them an uplink and expecting them to use it would ruin the role

carmine gorge
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And send me a screenshot of their job list, showing where SR exists.

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Also, how many rounds have you played as a TSFMC or Command role? Because you sound like you have no clue what you are talking about no disrespect intended.

tiny lynx
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to be fair

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so

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I'm sure they mean well

carmine gorge
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So then why do they think theres a distinction between CL and SR, even though SR does not exist on this server, and why do they think CL has ANY authority over the TSFMC?

tiny lynx
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dunno

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its 5 am

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I don't care

proper salmon
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The term "SR" is not present, Colonel of TSFMC! However, I did mention the TSFMC sector, and I can see how you have twisted the conversation in a different direction. If CL receives an uplink, it would be foolish, as it would disrupt the balance of the game. I understand your points, but I won't respond to every comment because I know it will lead to further debate. If there is a straightforward logic to discuss, then what is the point of the conversation?

Both of them are completely different sectors. They even have different names. So how foolish is it to confuse the two? Who exactly is the fool here? And which server are you even playing on now? My question is directed at you all—try to understand your mistake

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tiny lynx
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go play frontier

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anyways

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carrot, not the stick

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you want TSF to do more than to hunt down rogues and stop them from killing people?

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well

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maybe actually give them the ability to do that

carmine gorge
tiny lynx
carmine gorge
tiny lynx
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One of your arguments was literally "Someone disagrees with you, therefore they must be arguing in bad faith"

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its... absurdly bad faith arguments you are putting forth here Enzo

carmine gorge
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Im going to stop engaging in this thread all together because there is no way to have a reasonable discussion with this guy.

He is convinced he is right, doesnt take any feedback on that topic even though he literally used the wrong term and blames us for the confusion that causes.

proper salmon
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You all keep talking endlessly. After saying one thing, you move on to another without any logic. That's the problem with you. I'm just making the post and leaving it. If it's needed, it will be changed. Otherwise, the post will just stay as it is—no problem.

carmine gorge
# proper salmon You all keep talking endlessly. After saying one thing, you move on to another w...

This is straight from the game files, to clean up any possible confusion:
SR got Renamed to CL
Sheriff got Renamed to Colonel

Your proposal is to give the SR (Which is the CL here) an uplink, which is a bad idea, youve admitted so yourself.
The fact that you used the wrong term is on you, and Its honestly funny to see how you think you are always right, and that you seem to actually believe its our mistake for not interpreting your terms in a way that is factually incorrect, as shown is the attached screenshot of tmonoliths files.

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tiny lynx
proper salmon
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you keep bringing up wrong points in the comments, none of which make any logical sense. Even when there is logic, some of your points are meaningless. You’re good at twisting words and making things sound nice, but when it comes to pointing out real issues, you change the topic entirely. There's no need to give it much importance—if necessary, suggestions will be made.

For example, I had an issue once when I went to the FoB just to eat, and I got shot and died. I then suggested that an outpost kitchen room be added. That room was eventually built. So I believe when someone gives a suggestion, at least someone listens and sometimes they actually make it happen.

carmine gorge
# tiny lynx then stop engaging

Yeah, doing that now. Just wanted to leave that final point here that he doesnt know what hes talking about if he thinks that SR somehow means Colonel
EDIT: For the record, I agree that limiting it to the colonel (and possible captains/lieutenants) is a good thing, just not the SR/CL

tiny lynx
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okay

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are you willing to discuss with me what your suggestion is exactly Enzo

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regarding the uplinks

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the other two suggestions seem fine honestly

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Do you want the CL to be the only one with the Uplink? Or the Colonel?

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there is some confusion about what exactly you want

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Both are whitelist roles, so its not like one is more difficult to access than the other

nocturne mason
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Okay, lemme get something straight. One round you were CL and our crew was in a picsese. There was no traffic control, and you never radioed us ONCE. When we docked you then radioed us saying we "had a fine for docking without permission" although, you never even asked for our reason to dock? You then spent ten minutes writing a fine. And then, of course, we burned it. I've seen you so this too as a ncmc. We had a deal to exchange contra for FUCS and you kept insisting we were trespassing, and then made us wanted. Honestly, I think it's your lack of rp in my honest opinion. You just want to write up a fine so you make an excuse. Or you just want to instigate something? Idk but it's weird. 🤔

proper salmon
# nocturne mason Okay, lemme get something straight. One round you were CL and our crew was in a ...

You didn't commit the crime of trespassing, yet you mentioned it — that alone makes you a big liar. You people have two charges: the first is Misdemeanor Possession, and the second involves both Dock Loitering and Unauthorized Docking Procedure. The total fine should have been only 15,000. Because it was your first offense, I lowered it to just 10,000. But you threatened me by brandishing a weapon, claiming you had no idea how many crimes you had just committed before showing up here. And when you left, you did so of your own will.

Threaten authority with a weapon, and still expect leniency?

cosmic phoenix
carmine gorge
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Also I have to ask, if they had paid the fine, you would have sent all of it into the station funds computer, right?

proper salmon
proper salmon
# cosmic phoenix there inst written protocol for crimes though?, colonel decides whats a crime an...

CL stands for Colonial Liaison. I am in charge of the entire outpost.
Everything must be presented to me through proper paperwork, as it is my responsibility.
When there is no STC at the outpost, I have to handle both roles at once, which increases my workload even more.

We all have to follow the rules—whether it's you or me.
And when no one else is present at the outpost, the full responsibility automatically falls on me.

I am also a command member.
I have full authority only within this outpost, not anywhere else.
And yes, I have the right to issue fines if you break the rules.

nocturne mason
proper salmon
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Later, I realized there’s no point in doing it for nothing. TSFMC isn’t really serving much purpose. The conflict between the two continues within Pirate and TSFMC. They only help when they get some free time. If someone is truly sincere and sees their duty as a responsibility, only then do they step up to help.

Still, there are two people I truly admire — Mima and Detective. Both of them are capable of handling responsibilities very well in TSFMC. That’s why I always respect these two.

nocturne mason
untold prawn
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wanted list that everybody totally follow

carmine gorge
proper salmon
# carmine gorge Thats the problem. The tsfmc doesnt GET free time

You talk a lot, but it's hard to find any logic in your words. You start with one point, jump to another, and keep circling around without actually saying anything meaningful. It's amusing, sure—but only because it's so empty. If you ever decide to make sense, let me know

carmine gorge
cosmic phoenix
proper salmon
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This post has gathered a lot of messages over time. I will repost it again. I understand why I'm bringing up the issue that's causing you to worry that the money-making option will be gone. I'll post it again, but I'll remove the uplink so that you'll like it a little better.

carmine gorge
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Why repost? It gathering feedback is a good thing.

proper salmon
carmine gorge
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Im listening

proper salmon
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I can clearly see that everyone’s concern revolves around one key issue—why should the Uplink be removed? Let’s be honest, one FUC in that system holds the value of nearly 5,000 spesos. Now think—how many dead drops are being looted regularly? Where does all that FUC go? Is it stored inside the Uplink, or handed over to some higher headquarters?

Everyone in this department has already mastered how to make money. They’ve figured it out all too well. But let me give you a scenario—what if a Central Command (CC) outpost gets established? When CC representatives arrive, they’ll ask questions: ‘Where was the budget spent? How many dead drops have been looted? How much FUC has been collected? Where is it now?’ And they’ll expect answers. I’m genuinely looking forward to seeing what you all present when that time comes.

As for me, I keep everything documented. I’ve earned enough already—I no longer care about making money. Now, my only focus is doing my duty.

carmine gorge
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Alternate solution: nerf/remove buying money with fucs

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Fucs primary use should be gear

tiny lynx
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I think only captains and up should be able to buy money with fucs

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Now that we have a sizeable playerbase

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Doesn't really matter if theres no standards for fucs in general

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Whatever the Colonel said

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I personally spend fucs on gear for myself and others, until I feel secure in my loadout

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Then I just invest it into spesos or give to others smh

cyan dove
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I'm gonna be honest.

I don't think this is necessary.

On frontier often times salaries just never could be paid out because there was a lack of command staff at the time.

As it is. This Garentees the Marines some pay. Otherwise they might just be stuck with no pay or benefit.

limber leaf