[SPOILERS] Star-Crossed World

[fast crest]

though you could at least still guard

[pine wolf]

Oh for sure 😭. The slide move is actually really useful

[autumn turret]

I will remove your guard

[pine wolf]

I’d argue it’s more fun without the I frames, you feel very rewarded for good timing

[fast crest]

okay there lightning screw uppercut from kazuya mishima tekken

[pine wolf]

But yeah definitely recommend. You realize how many moves are trivialized by hovering like the shock waves so it feels very satisfying to master the attack patterns

[fast crest]

No buffs is how I do all my Colosseum runs, but adding on a stipulation of no hover plus no dodge means you really need to know your patterns to minimise damage

[broken sapphire]

oh wow, the next stage is called "an unexpected beast king" and has a dedede-shaped boss silhouette
i sure do wonder who that might possibly be!

[tired escarp]

I wish there was a setting to remove the slow-motion effect while dodging an attack, just to make things more challenging, while still making use of dodge rolls for movement options.

[pine wolf]

Oh I forgot I’ll remove that too. The whole spirit of the run is mastering all of the attacks

[fast crest]

Would be a bit hard to register the actions out of dodge with that, though

like the three abilities that have a special attack performed out of a perfect dodge

[pine wolf]

This is true but as I said before the slide actually accomplishes the same purpose! Some moves are actually unavoidable without it like Sillydillo’s rolls.

[autumn turret]

You can just sidestep sillydillo's rolls with good positioning can't you

[fast crest]

Here's the thing, too... You need to guard to slide

Removing guard is removing slide

[pine wolf]

The game actually doesn’t consider it a guard at first

[autumn turret]

The game only counts you as having guarded for the mission if you get hit while guarding

Otherwise you can hold guard the entire battle if you want and still get the mission as long as you dodge the attacks

[pine wolf]

Yeah. As long as I’m not guarding to intentionally take a hit it’s all fair game. Again it’s more so about the spirit of the run and truly learning the attack patterns

[fast crest]

It's not a mission they're doing, though

[autumn turret]

They literally mentioned what the game considers a guard

[fast crest]

But in either case, I feel like a stipulation like no guard should be "absolutely no touching the button"

insane mode, I guess

[pine wolf]

Yeah that’s true.

[broken sapphire]

the parallels...

(2 awoofies in front of stairs to the boss)

[junior zealot]

this dedede fight arena location is so cool i wish it was a level ngl 💔

it has such a different vibe from everything else in the game

[broken sapphire]

you fight him in a church to reference the religion of dedede

[junior zealot]

yeah i am a part of that religion

[pine wolf]

That’s what I’m sayinnggg I was really hoping we would see it in a starry stage 😭.

[broken sapphire]

exactly

[autumn turret]

um ackshually these aren't parallels they're the same dimension 🤓

[cloud olive]

you fight him in a church because dedede is void

[broken sapphire]

OH MY GOD KING DEDEDE IS IN THE GAME?!?!?!?

[junior zealot]

nah its alternate dimension dedede

[pine wolf]

SPOILER TAG!!!!!!!

[junior zealot]

trust me

[broken sapphire]

I CAN'T BELIEVE HE GOT POSSESSED/CORRUPTED/MIND-CONTROLLED/PUPPETEERED/IS PURE EVIL!?!?!?

i don't care if people say roar of dedede is overrated, i think it's incredible

[fast crest]

... you know, I didn't think about it until recently, but... (SCW lore considerations, spoilers for UCZ EX maybe) ||The Warp Star is kind of a meteor, isn't it? Flies down and crashes on impact. And Kirby's "Kirby of the Stars" moniker is pretty clearly supposed to allude to the whole meteor thing that Star-Crossed World has going on...||

[junior zealot]

it is very good

[fast crest]

IDK, I think it's just neat

[junior zealot]

i used to think its my favorite version of his theme but rn im like

[broken sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/bandana-dee-kirby-bandana-waddle-dee-kirby-and-the-forgotten-land-king-dedede-gif-12969249951220255955

[cloud olive]

roar of dedede is peka

[junior zealot]

dedede's royal payback is dope too

battle of peak basically

[ruby geode]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-fan4stic-fantastic-four-the-thing-say-that-again-gif-9345984830195785978

[junior zealot]

they should have let us do that in the post-game 💔

but you can't touch him 💔

bad game

[broken sapphire]

true!

oh man i sure hope dedede doesn't wake up

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-lois-griffin-peter-whats-wrong-i-dont-know-lois-gif-15198663198866060579

[autumn turret]

pekachi? pekaro?

[broken sapphire]

why did kirby not just stop being frozen in time? is he an idiot?

[autumn turret]

Me after poisoning his drink

[broken sapphire]

WHY THE FUCK IS THAT GUY THERE

[autumn turret]

Why didn't Elfilin just shake the control stick to free himself, is he stupid

[broken sapphire]

i still wonder why frost street snow park is almost entire twinkling star showers while the sign mouth section is the only part it actually mostly uses the northeast frost street motif

[pine wolf]

Yes very strange

[gentle crow]

(Final boss) can’t remember if I shared this here

[stray umbra]

“THE HAMMER, HE’S REAL”

[pine wolf]

Honestly I’m kind of digging my ruleset, I’m starting to realize how much depth these bosses have in a 3d space

You have to be VERY careful not to get backed into a corner or else you will take damage

There’s like consequences to not planning ahead and it’s very engaging

[stray umbra]

What is this rule set?

[pine wolf]

No dodge rolling, hovering, copy abilities, or buffs

Preferably I try to have a star in my mouth at all times so I can’t accidentally do anything but like slides are okay

[fast crest]

meanwhile I still want to know what @grave swallow's stipulations were for the challenge they were attempting against the final boss

which, for the record, was (final boss) ||beating all phases of Genwel Meteonelfilis with base power abilities||

[broken sapphire]

never forgiving them for adding a billion "don't get hit by [thing]" missions to scw

lol i got the twin wild frosty figure

as my first vol 2 ex

[fast crest]

||Cutter was, like, the one ability which they pretty much could not finish the challenge, so I challenged myself to do it in their stead, owing to Cutter being one of my favourite abilities in the franchise||

[tired escarp]

honestly I hope missions don't return in the next mainlines. They sour the experience a little bit for me.

[stray umbra]

No HOVER wow that’s some real stuff

[fast crest]

Honestly, no hover is not too hard to get used to if you don't use it a lot in boss fights as is

And though in my case it's because I prefer to dodge, the active benefit of not floating is that you don't spend time releasing an air puff before being able to attack with your abilities again

important for maxing out your damage and minimising your times in Colosseum battles

there is no boss in this game, IIRC, which outright requires a Kirby float to dodge

[ruby geode]

or they return but revamped tbh but yeah current system is pretty flawed

[agile sigil]

It's funny how much of Chaos Elfilis' moveset gets no diffed by Kirby if he floats
Especially his swipe attacks

[junior zealot]

i mean kirby is pretty slow floater

ohhh you mean like that

[broken sapphire]

i guess sign mouth could be even worse for no-jump challenges than spring mouth lol

considering you don't automatically constantly bounce

[agile sigil]

Like buddy, just swing your spear higher. Even Sillydillo knows how to do that with his cage grab😜

[fast crest]

(final boss) ||I rediscovered that by accident thanks to Final Cutter being able to dodge the spear swings of Meteonelfilis if you manage to time the leaping part of that attack correctly||

[broken sapphire]

tbf that is literally the strongest attack in kirby history in terms of damage

[junior zealot]

why is sillydillo so randomly powerful

[agile sigil]

It even KOs on Spring Breeze lv of health?

[junior zealot]

i feel like he could beat elfilis himself

[pine wolf]

Exactly 😭

[fast crest]

Basically it's as if you were wall crushed

instant KO

[agile sigil]

|| Not even Lord of Chaos C Elfilis' sun attack can pull that off ||

[fast crest]

If you let it, anyway

[pine wolf]

LMAOOO

[broken sapphire]

how does northeast frost street already have 5 different versions in the kirby games alone
it's only been in 4 games

[agile sigil]

||Imagine if the New Chaos Elfilis fight had the Sillydillo clones do the cage move instead of the spindash XP ☠️||

[pine wolf]

It’s this game’s earthfall lol

[broken sapphire]

true

but that one has only 1 arrangement in kirby cafe

[agile sigil]

I have always wondered what would happen if you put two bosses in the same arena and let them be able to damage each other and who could deplete the other boss' HP bar first

[pine wolf]

Yeah

[broken sapphire]

FUCKING BULLSHIT

THE SNOWMAN HEAD GOT BLOWN WAY FURTHER

AND JUST FELL OFF THE NEXT MOVING PLATFORM IT WASN'T EVEN SUPPOSED TO GO ON YET

oh cool you now lose 50 star coins and 50 starry coins if you die in a starry stage i guess

but also i have no clue if dying resets the mission or not, let's hope so

[ruby geode]

I don't think it does

[broken sapphire]

oh nice it does

i got the "don't fucking kill the snowman" mission successfully

[ruby geode]

OH???

actually that's huge

[broken sapphire]

probably because i didn't put the snowman head on the body yet

[pine wolf]

WHI MADE THESE MISSIONS

[broken sapphire]

cause the checkpoint was before the final head

[ruby geode]

ah

[broken sapphire]

why the hell can ring mouth do midair jumps

[ruby geode]

so if I get hit by twin frosty I should instead die and not restart the stage

[broken sapphire]

like if you spam it he sometimes jumps way before landing on the ground

[pine wolf]

I don’t know how they achieved making it so annoying to replay a level even though I’ve replayed the game like 10 times

Replaying the game 😃

Replaying the level 👿

[broken sapphire]

maybe? 😭

[pine wolf]

Phantom tropic woods probably has the biggest glow up the maze attack is very fun and creative

[distant vortex]

||My brother finished the DLC and even Ultimate Cup Z EX. He thought Genwel Meteonelfilis was pretty and tough||

[broken sapphire]

ONE BILLION NOTIFICATIONS for entering waddle dee town

https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-five-hundred-cigarettes-gif-6779891482871762392

[distant vortex]

||Hasn't 100% it yet for NEICHEL's unfinished song though||

[broken sapphire]

pro flash fishing tip: the last button is always X

[stray umbra]

I was just thinking ||last song (unfinished) is the first time we’ve gotten a 100% reward that isn’t just a picture of a bunch of reused renders since robobot||

||we really went an entire console with absolute dogwater 100% rewards||

[pine wolf]

Well technically there’s new menu screen music but I get what you mean

[broken sapphire]

crazy how the minimum wage job minigame you can play in this game is just actually minimum wage. literally like less than 100 coins for winning

[pine wolf]

But yes ||Neichel song is huge and my favorite 100% award. Games really should start treating 100% like that because it’s obvious nobody likes getting some kind of golden cosmetic skin nobody will use. Fun lore and music is the way to go||

[broken sapphire]

i like the animation of waddle dees jumping up happy to see you

[icy tapir]

do you think it was a church dedicated to the meteor

[junior zealot]

...its possible

[broken sapphire]

how did game-shop waddle dees even get these tiny gordos into tilt and roll kirby

[junior zealot]

||especially considering its a prophecy||

[pastel ravine]

||https://fixupx.com/jc_players_/status/1962724679853936918?s=46 ||

JC- (@JC_Players_)

Ultimate Cup Z EX

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FixupX · Sep 2, 2025, 3:50 AM

[junior zealot]

MORE DELTARUNE PARALLELS

[still garnet]

||And then there’s twinkling Star showers where like the first few lines work really well then it immediately falls apart ||

[broken sapphire]

i'm so glad they added another tilt and roll theme for stage 3 ex so I CAN GO INSANE LISTENING TO A DIFFERENT SONG THAN BEFORE

[agile sigil]

Mario Odyssey Ruin Kingdom 🤝 Winter Horns Dedede arena

Areas so fire they should have totally been full levels

[broken sapphire]

oh hey i did it

[neat shuttle]

they did that?

[broken sapphire]

that wasn't too bad

yeah

[fast crest]

(100%) ||You're never told that it's even there once you achieve it, right?||

[neat shuttle]

this... was completely unnecessary but whatever lol

[broken sapphire]

||it's a dream buffet remix and more ishikawa music so i like it||

oh right i forgot you get 3 fricking rare stones from tilt and roll

man this game makes me wanna tilt, and them tumble!

[ruby geode]

the funny || https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_V8AoxeAbw ||

[fast crest]

Much like ||them adding new Crystal Car-Mouth Cake and Sparkly-Eyed Kirby Burger||

[neat shuttle]

...a part of me wants to redo Level 3 EX then

[pine wolf]

Fans of Tilt and Roll Kirby may want to tune in for the next Nintendo direct 👀

[broken sapphire]

sometimes i forget how fucking cute kirby games are and i just have to spend 5 minutes saying hi to every waddle dee in town

[icy tapir]

this is so much better than the Sand Canyon-esque original

[pine wolf]

Why can sillydillyo just summon a sandstorm where did he learn how to do that

[hallow gust]

YouTube tutorials

[bold compass]

Did scw have any major mistranslations or was it a better translation like the original fl?

[broken sapphire]

it did have some pretty big quirks

in the lost starry/starries figure, the opening was translated from "mysterious children of the stars that shine with a twinkle" to "children of a mysterious twinkling planet"

[fast crest]

given the whole "hoshi" thing where they use it for both star and planet...

[ruby geode]

hi all listen to me comment about SCW with a friend for one hour and a half (starts spoiler free but has spoilers after around 1 hour hence here) I did ask other mods if this was fine to post to be safe lol https://shows.acast.com/655d41286a3d07001266e6a3/68b662d471ccb00a03030998

[broken sapphire]

self advertising!?/1/ banned

[ruby geode]

[broken sapphire]

HOW

DID I JUST NOW NOTICE

THAT RUNNING THROUGH THE NEW WORLD HAS THE INTRO OF GREEN GREENS AT THE START IN THE BACKGROUND

THIS IS ALMOST AS BAD AS THE TIME IT TOOK ME A YEAR AND A HALF TO REALIZE THE TRACK HAD KIRBY'S TRIUMPHANT RETURN

[stuck ether]

Ok so I was listening to the final boss's theme, and...

...no nevermind I'm hallucinating leitmotifs that aren't there

[broken sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[stuck ether]

(fine I'll explain anyways)
[Link to Final Boss Music below]
||https://youtu.be/UDQDgQW4tYM?feature=shared||

[Description of my Hallucination]
||I swear at around 1:33 - 1:40 the background melody sounds at least a little similar to "Under My Control"/"Welcome to Your New Overlord" starting around 0:39||

[Song I swear I heard in it below]
||https://youtu.be/tvLhjOmmAns?feature=shared||

Gonna be real with you, whatever I heard is probably generic anyways but still-

[native mauve]

NO WAY

[junior zealot]

they made him

||Zero One||

[true aurora]

||Zero-One is probably just Zero-Two but without the wings lol||

[junior zealot]

||so he still has a big bump on his stupid head okay||

[true aurora]

||Yeah lol||
||The owie…||

[true aurora]

||True???????||

[twin junco]

||me when neichel ends up being zero four or whatever||

[true aurora]

||Nah I think Zero Four is going to be Dess||
||Too much evidence, y’know?||

[twin junco]

https://tenor.com/view/meta-knight-kirby-gif-18287797

[junior zealot]

why this sprite goes hard

[pastel ravine]

Sprite artists are like that

[candid rover]

I was so close….STUPID TORNADOS!!!

[agile sigil]

Tiny detail I noticed
The starry landscape has an effect where some wave happens every time Kirby enters or exits the zone of said effect. But if you teleport with the Morpho Knight dodge it doesn't actually trigger the effect

[tired escarp]

That was the only reason I completed the challenge, no matter how difficult it was. The music kept giving me energy, easily the Megalovania of 2025

[keen garnet]

(UCZEX) ||I headcanon that the eye design of the Para-matter things Elfilis shoots out is what Meteon's eyes look like normally when not havign absorbed the Starries||

(UCZEX) ||Seems like one of the Crystal icicle things can be seen in elfilis too||

[true aurora]

||That crystal icicle gained sentience at the last possible second||

[agile sigil]

||Absorbed energy from the very terrain||

[twin junco]

||"we gon use ALL our models"||

[agile sigil]

|| And I guess Meteon did something similar ||

[true aurora]

||Also I love how even the Galactals got trapped in this fucked up thing too||

[keen garnet]

yeah lol

[agile sigil]

|| Chaos Elfilis is more like Kirby than it probably would like to think ||

[raven aspen]

holy shit

[cloud olive]

||elfilis with beads of ruin, tablets of ruin, vessel of ruin, and sword of ruin||

[agile sigil]

||Beads- Crystals
Tablet- Buildings
Vessel- Stolen energy of basically anything in the world
Sword- Meteon literally has Crystal swords XP ||

[broken sapphire]

i can't get over how good every single starry stage theme is

[agile sigil]

I completely forgot Morpho Sword had the phantom Elfilis move XP

[pine wolf]

Why did I do this to myself

[broken sapphire]

good lu- FORTY FIVE MINUTES!?!?

GOOD LUCK

[velvet moss]

||someone is using that destinied Rival figurine to justify why Dedede is still a villain.||

[steady trench]

45 is insanity, dear god

[steady trench]

If you laugh you go to hell

[timber plaza]

I’m going to die

This statement killed me

[velvet moss]

||idk, what part of Dedede is starving when he joined the Beast Pack makes people think he have villainous intention when he joined.||

||https://x.com/Patbacknitro/status/1963333148538015973||

[steady trench]

||Don't they also mention Meta Knight resisting Fecto Forgo's mind control?||

[agile sigil]

|| One of the craziest things about Dedede being seen as a villain still is when they look at Nintendo villains as a collective. And they have Dedede present, but then some like GANONDORF is nowhere to he seen||

[velvet moss]

||how do you misread a figurine that bad.||

[pine wolf]

You’ve gotta take your sweet sweet time with some of these because without the dodge, going for some of the stars is like a death wish 😭. You have to wait for the very few attacks during their cycles where it’s safe to grab stars and keep distance

[stray umbra]

Early signs of severe brain damage:

[agile sigil]

|| Like people are deep in the mindset of Dedede being a villain they completely gloss over the actual King of Evil from one of the biggest Nintendo series ever ||

[broken sapphire]

fair lol

[pine wolf]

This is definitely the thing I attempt once a day so I don’t go insane 💔

[velvet moss]

I think ||people really need to reread the figurine before slandering Dedede||

[timber plaza]

||Or people need to learn about dedede better||

||like you legit have every hint scattered across each game about how Dedede isn’t even an actual villain||

[small cloak]

what???? 😭😭

[velvet moss]

||Eventually someone will claim Dedede is a villain cuz he brought a Jamba Heart to Hyness /joke.||

[timber plaza]

Pretty sure people did already lol

[small cloak]

ok like ||how do you read that & think he joined fully intending to be Evil As Shit
they mention his ass was starving to show that it's not Oh He's Evil Now 😭😭😭😭😭||

free my goat bro

[velvet moss]

||Dedede willingly join the Beast Pack to enslave his own Waddle Dees!!!||

[agile sigil]

People who think Dedede is still a villain probably also think Mario is evil/a psychopath
On one hand it's best not to give those people too much attention but it's definitely super difficult to ignore them for how absurd the conclusions they come to are

[velvet moss]

I think Dedede have it worse cuz like, Kirby Anime-

[heady quiver]

||“yeah sure I’ll join you guys, I don’t care if that means selling my waddle dees into slavery”
“oh shit, I just sold my waddle dees into slavery”||

[broken sapphire]

i can't believe chara would do this

[velvet moss]

Anyways what does the Japanese say?

Is there any SCW Translation doc?

[timber plaza]

There is but

||Japanese one is confusing as well lol||

It could also leave some interpretations if you don’t read it carefully

[velvet moss]

||what the Japanese say?||

[timber plaza]

||Pretty much along the line where Dedede meets the Beast King while he was starving to team up together||

[velvet moss]

I think the key point is ||he's starving.||

[timber plaza]

||The thing is this could be taken in two ways because 1: Leongar could’ve lied or became manipulated with Forgo. 2 (evil): Dedede teamed and ditched Waddle Dee to agree in kidnapping waddle Dee = food lol||

[keen garnet]

||isn't that literally the plot of Waddle While you Work||

[small cloak]

||> King Dedede, suffering from hunger, met the King of Beasts and joined forces with him.
from starpunch's tl||

[velvet moss]

||isn't there other Figurines that explains how Dedede end up in the New World?||

[timber plaza]

||MK in same description doesn’t help either lol||

[small cloak]

YEAH

||> In comparison, Meta Knight noticed the thoughts and plans of someone in the northern land, got into a fight, and shook them off. Thus he took up the role of guarding Waddle Dee Town!
same source||

it sounds. Not Good

[timber plaza]

||The regular Dedede description mentions how he arrived to the new world before Kirby did, and teamed up with beast pack and treated waddle Dee’s poorly||

||with a question mark||

[velvet moss]

||Planet Popstar's destined rivals!" That's how King Dedede usually describes this special relationship, so he was crestfallen when he arrived in the new world and couldn't find Kirby. ||

[small cloak]

||idk en is kinda similar but they way they introduced meta here makes it seem worse||

[velvet moss]

||Hes also depressed when he show up. So he's both depressed and hungry.||

[small cloak]

||poor lad can't catch a break 💔||

[velvet moss]

||also Phantom Dedede figure suggest Dedede is under control when he work with Leongar and captures Elfilin.||

[heady quiver]

“This fucking guy again dude”

[velvet moss]

||so being depress and starving makes him easier to be mind controlled and work for Leongar...||

||so I guess in a vacuum, it seems to suggest Dedede only capture Waddle Dees cuz he joined with the Beast Pack for Food||

||but with existing figures it provide more context behind Dedede's alliance with Beast Pack.||

[timber plaza]

And ||the other figure explains how Dedede misses Kirby a lot because he can’t find him in the new world. But by the time he was able to reunite, he was already wild beast. And Masked figure mentions “why did Dedede kidnapped Elfilin?” And asking who give the mask to him. And the phantom dedede mentions about how Forgo controlled dedede and Leon to find Elfilin. Phantom Wild figure mentions how Leongar give Dedede the mask and was tasked to stop anyone from entering the lab||

Pretty much you’re required to read all the figurines to piece the context together

[small cloak]

||forgo ddd figure literally says "already-controlled king" bruh unless u haven't seen it there's no way you'd think he's doing this on purpose||

yeah lol

[timber plaza]

Cause not reading one of them will result in ||Dedede being bad!?!?||

[keen garnet]

reading? too much work smh

[small cloak]

ok see.

that's the problem 😭

[velvet moss]

||Anyways Magolor would never-||

||he would scam Leongar of his money before dipping.||

[small cloak]

mfs won't read n then act like they know everything

[velvet moss]

/joke

[keen garnet]

https://tenor.com/soE3ISjQnTq.gif

[timber plaza]

MAGOLOR

[keen garnet]

just pretend that says Kirby fan

[timber plaza]

Not you Tenna

[small cloak]

egg mentioned

[velvet moss]

Actually ||you think Dedede could have resist the mind controlled if he's not hungry and depressed?||

[lapis reef]

||It would have helped, anyway||

[heady quiver]

You have mere moments to live

[agile sigil]

UCZEX || Beat it with Morpho Sword. And without taking any heals from the locker room ||

[small cloak]

||possibly tbh he's been possessed a billion of times so I'd imagine he has Some resistance||

[heady quiver]

||Yeah probably his judgement wouldn’t have been nearly as clouded||

[timber plaza]

Is this the image I sent earlier 😭 😭

And screaming

And losing mind

I want to eat his bomb

[small cloak]

awwwww he's gonna blow you up ❤️

[agile sigil]

|| Star Crossed World uses "Kirby of the Stars" a lot which I appreciate. It'd be neat if some form of that name/phrase became Kirby's new Smash Bros arena tagline apart from "Pink Demon" (I'm cool with both. It'd just be an interesting switch up) ||

[native mauve]

||I want them to keep Pink Demon as it has been used as his title for the Boss Rushes / Arenas since Super Star (tho it was localized differently game by game)||

[timber plaza]

💥 💥 💥 💥

[lapis reef]

I've definitely hit my point of annoyance with all the ||no damage/do it perfect|| missions. It's fine, I got them, but I don't remember getting actively frustrated with the story mode ones

[small cloak]

||I am such a kirby of the stars truther
pink demon is cute i don't mind it but HNK MENTIONED IN ENGLISH KEEP DOING IT‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️||

[agile sigil]

Off topic but nice PFP
I'm playing though Metaphor ReFantazio rn👌🏿

[small cloak]

AWESOME 🥹

metaphor is very peak Have Fun 🎉🎉🎉

[agile sigil]

Almost finished it at this point having done what I assume are all the super bosses

But anyways this is a Kirby channel so won't get TOO off topic

[small cloak]

scw still has me tweaking anytime I do literally anything it's on my mind ❤️

[raven aspen]

SCW you need to get out of my brain now

i need space for silksong lore

it's literally tomorrow

[brazen nova]

Every time i see people say dedede is still a villain these days i lose a decimal of sanity

[small cloak]

me too but now less so since

1. See it less often
2. Used to it

[autumn turret]

Hamnokunsei my beloved (final boss) || https://musescore.com/user/10620761/scores/27348892 ||

[keen garnet]

PEAK

now if only i could print that out to play, alas my printer sucks 😔

[stuck ether]

All printers suck

Imagine a useful device that thinks it should be used on the daily... and then break when it's not used for a while

[ruby geode]

WOAH PEAK

[heady quiver]

||Forggten Land||

[autumn turret]

Wait wtf

||Meteonelfilis has a hitbox on his head when he does his version of Green Flash||

||It doesn't crystalize you like his spear does||

[ornate palm]

||I mean, those antlers do look like they hurt||

[raven aspen]

||he saw kiby dodging elfilis's attacks and decided to grow horns 🔥 ||

[keen garnet]

(final boss)
|| dawg what 😭

https://fixupx.com/TheDExusShow/status/1963236621462986882 ||

DExus (@TheDExusShow)

// Star Crossed World Spoilers
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︀︀So I'm not crazy, right? This is DEFINITELY saying that the Sparkling Stars, from THE VERY FIRST KIRBY GAME, were made by the ancients with Elfili's species DNA, right?

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FixupX · Sep 3, 2025, 1:44 PM

[timber plaza]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

||Kirby fans when they see a shape of a star||

||(Star was invented by the ancients)||

[wild stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-meme-cook-gif-1177116184918006692

[lapis reef]

||unless we see it forged on screen, it was made by the ancients||

[keen garnet]

||There's three more videos btw, they don't embed for some reason 😭||

[broken sapphire]

i replied to that with just this image

[ruby geode]

wait what

[keen garnet]

RHV spotte-

[ruby geode]

I feel I'm missing everything about how they came to that conclusion

[keen garnet]

wait

[timber plaza]

[keen garnet]

😭😭

[broken sapphire]

no way

[keen garnet]

beat by the man himself smh 😔

[ruby geode]

anyway someone explain

[timber plaza]

https://youtu.be/NEc5LvRE9b0?si=oEkIRjBJa56z9ppw

[ruby geode]

WHAT

[raven aspen]

kirby fans when someone asked about ||neichel||

[timber plaza]

😭

[broken sapphire]

so basically ||meteonelfilis has a phase where he goes big like giant king dedede with the sparkling star in blowout blast
and his boss music has a new wind for tomorrow motif which is first used when kirby grows big with the sparkling star in dream land 1||
and that's it i think

[keen garnet]

||there's a part in Lagrange that they think sounds like the sparkling stars jingle, and then they also compared the sparkling star making Dedede big in Blowout Blast to Genwel getting big like him||

https://tenor.com/bmGGR.gif

[ruby geode]

oh lol

[timber plaza]

[broken sapphire]

hence why i said well it's possible

[keen garnet]

im too slow, must be getting on in age 😔

[ruby geode]

idk because ||melfilis got giant because he absorbed the crystals so hahaha super powerful so like idk||

[timber plaza]

||I think it’s just a haha funny reference||

||I can’t believe this phase was hinted since Blowout Blast!||

[raven aspen]

i'll be honest, i cant fully deny it. BUT ||connecting lore through BLOWOUT BLAST is crazy||

[timber plaza]

||its a very cool troop, so like||

[broken sapphire]

it would be really cool though

[raven aspen]

then again ||the gem apple incident...||

[timber plaza]

||tbh gem apples were hinted to be important for a while ||

Erm why did that autocorrect to Magolor

[broken sapphire]

||me when i eat the explosive money fruit||

[ruby geode]

|| > The Sparkling Star's use in Kirby's Blowout Blast is similar to the Grand Stars from Super Mario Galaxy 2, as both cause the villains who use them to grow large in size.||

||no way the ancients are from the mario universe||

[lapis reef]

Super Star confirmed that ||Mario is canon to Kirby||

[raven aspen]

when the ||funny microtransaction currency is tied to cursed artifact of power||

[timber plaza]

(My tweet from 2017 becoming real)

[broken sapphire]

kumazaki:

[timber plaza]

Kuma saw my tweet going “wow maybe I can make thi-“

[broken sapphire]

cause obviously kumazaki has read all of yukkuri's tweets

[raven aspen]

the evil ||parallor love sticker.||

[ruby geode]

we had before star allies released

[broken sapphire]

woah

[ruby geode]

still find that funny

[silver turret]

wait that's oomf. how unfortunate.

[lapis reef]

HAL spy

[timber plaza]

Maybe I work for HAL

[lapis reef]

The going to school part is just your cover

[timber plaza]

😇

All my irl photo are made on blender

Except the pic in Japan

[lapis reef]

Honestly, I can see where they're coming from, even if I don't buy it. A lot of Kirby theories are connected through equally tentative evidence

[silver turret]

you're actually magolor irl so whenever you "go to school" you're studying your library of nondescript tomes in a silly hat and fake moustache

[timber plaza]

Realllll

[silver turret]

the tomes actually contain confidential hal design documents...

[timber plaza]

It also contains all my Magolor zipbomb

[silver turret]

magolor's iconic zip bombs, which he is known to have

[broken sapphire]

no way mine too

[autumn turret]

||I have now seen a second fucking person who failed to kill the Roche Sphere after it got exposed||

[pastel ravine]

This is a clever reference to how Magolor will be in the next 3D Kirby game

[timber plaza]

He’s in every Kirby game since the first one

[lapis reef]

Gasp

[timber plaza]

TRUE

Magolor is everywhere..

[lapis reef]

I need to make a video version of this where he's hiding in various gameplay footage

[keen garnet]

Where's Magolor?

The Kirby Where's Waldo we truly deserve

[pastel ravine]

He’s in this very server…watching us…

[keen garnet]

Magolor is the friend inside me

the friend inside all of us

https://tenor.com/tfb0fJx9amX.gif

[pastel ravine]

I hate this image

[timber plaza]

This is real

STOP SHOWING THAT IMAGE IM GONNA LOSE MY MI-

[pastel ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-kirby-kirby-magolor-magolor-kirby-master-crown-gif-11899923682407403809

[brazen nova]

||Is there a unique entrance if you fail to kill it or no||

[keen garnet]

||if by entrance you mean restarting the battle after dying, it just puts you back to the giant Phase 2||

[edgy sapphire]

has anyone seen how much damage the new ||deadly sun heatwave from ZEX soul|| does yet?

[timber plaza]

||Pretty sure someone sent a video somewhere… spring breeze doesn’t kill you but wild mode gets you to low health~death||

[ruby geode]

||someone showed that it's instakill in wild mode but not in spring breeze||

[pine wolf]

I am addicted to this dlc bro im on my 4th playthrough

And one of them was a full 100% playthrough with the base game

[ruby geode]

@edgy sapphire || https://bsky.app/profile/irisdescentbird.bsky.social/post/3lxmtx4niw22e https://bsky.app/profile/irisdescentbird.bsky.social/post/3lxmtx4nmt22e ||

Iris/アイリス 🏳️‍⚧️ (@irisdescentbird.bsky.social)

(kirby SCW spoilers)

babe wake up, new kirby instakill attack dropped (wild mode only)
you kinda have to do this deliberately though, the damage can be a lot less if you get caught by it later, it's only instakill if you take the full duration of it

Bluesky · Aug 30, 2025, 3:06 PM

Iris/アイリス 🏳️‍⚧️ (@irisdescentbird.bsky.social)

-# ↩ Iris/アイリス 🏳️‍⚧️ (@irisdescentbird.bsky.social)
(same spoiler)

damage done in spring-breeze mode

Bluesky · Aug 30, 2025, 3:06 PM

[edgy sapphire]

ah ok

[timber plaza]

||they’re not insta death but without the pillar it’s pretty much slow death and it’s funny||

||cause you should be able to live with some health on wild mode with 2 pillars up at least||

[raven aspen]

||kirby is getting stir-fried </3||

[autumn turret]

I like how perfect a heart Elfilin's shadow makes

[edgy sapphire]

eh, i think its still a little on the weaker side

[autumn turret]

The problem is it doesn't start immediately

[edgy sapphire]

looks like it deals roughly 1.5x of kirby's wild mode hp bar

[autumn turret]

You have to be in it for like a full second or two for it to start

[pastel ravine]

Friend

[timber plaza]

||jamba heart that king dedede brought to fecto forgo||

[pastel ravine]

Oh come on

[edgy sapphire]

||o right, speaking of the final boss in ZEX, got an odd interaction where the extra crystals it shoots still happen mid-cutscene for elfilis||

[autumn turret]

Lmao

[brazen nova]

Ok

[pastel ravine]

Elfilin should be a mainstay methinks

Idk I just want more of him

[raven aspen]

elfilin becomes a mainstay but he has ||two devils on his shoulders (ears???)||

[livid gust]

Imagine Elfilin summoning Forgo as a stand and being able to combine with him to become Elfilis once again

[nimble pewter]

where does it state this?
i mean it's possible the halcandrans made them i guess but nothing ties elfilis ||or genwel|| to them

[nimble pewter]

||that jingle is used fucking everywhere in this series it's not related to the stars specifically||

[nimble pewter]

||"villain turns big" is terrible evidence i'm sorry||

[broken sapphire]

i know

[lapis reef]

Based on other people's interpretations ||it's mostly based on music similarities and phase 2 being like giant dedede.|| Which while I don't really buy it myself, I've seen a lot of popular theories based on equally minimal evidence, so it's just how kirby lore goes

[nimble pewter]

||the jingle is generic for this series and I didn't hear the dl1 ending theme||
||"villain turned giant" is sectonia related to fecto? is marx related to fecto?||

[broken sapphire]

||marx never turned giant?
and also a new wind for tomorrow is definitely there||

[grave swallow]

||Still struggling against UCZEX with normal hammer. I keep reaching lord of chaos, dying, retrying, dying with a full healthbar, and by then I've had enough||

||I did win with toy hammer (and a few tier 3s)||

||Lord of Chaos makes me feel like trying to beat Marx Soul as a kid again, they really outdid themselves this time||

||It really lives up to the name, it's just utter chaos even after you're somewhat used to it. Same for Forgo Leon EX, which is draining too much health beforehand||

||Good thing I barely even get hit by genwel anymore||

||Morpho ex is also really annoying with the forgos EVERYWHERE||

||Ironically, I find regular Chaos Elfilis actually rather orderly||

I absolutely melt the regular versions of all these bosses with normal hammer

[raven aspen]

me telling my brain to stop thinking about ||hal room (starry ver)||

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-rant-amogus-stop-posting-about-among-us-stop-posting-gif-21710838

(it's still going 🧠 💥 )

[stuck ether]

Oh what a fool I am, I only just figured out the song that plays ||During the desert slide section||

Damn SCW really do be remixing everyth-

||The tunnel theme||:

https://tenor.com/view/two-and-a-half-men-forgotten-rain-soccer-kid-gif-14419736533632730492

I think that's the only level song to NOT be remixed at all

[autumn turret]

||Oh I didn't notice Genwel had the easier variant of Ares Meteor or whatever tf they're gonna call it in the first half||

||Also its just so funny how many drop stars some of his attacks spawn
Mfs really said 'switch 2 baby, 5000 drop stars if we want'||

[keen garnet]

https://tenor.com/pffZEusjR2f.gif

||pretend that says drop stars||

[native mauve]

||I can't believe Sparkling Stars were based on Elfilis no way||

[autumn turret]

||Btw its only on the real one, the clones don't have this hitbox||

[fiery vigil]

Anyone know where and/or have a good render for ||Meteonelfilis||?
I already have one but I do need one in a different pose

[icy tapir]

do you guys think theyll screenshot the ||NEICHEL sign and turn it into an NSO pfp||

[keen garnet]

they would tbh

[timber plaza]

I would love that

unironically

[fiery vigil]

It would be really funny if they did

[lapis reef]

Would be cool if they did it as a background you could put a photo in front of

[grave swallow]

I just realized that a scarlet butterfly's sword gives you lifesteal and I'm wondering why I didn't think about this sooner

I am Morpho, Blade of Sukhavati... and I have never known defeat.

[twin junco]

i abuse the crap out of that lifesteal (the galactal contact damage threw me for a loop)

[autumn turret]

Just saw someone die b/c of the Blazar Cutters they broke
https://www.twitch.tv/capslockkeyon/clip/ScaryExuberantSalmonKappaClaus-HPaTnlYgX6Xp74Em

[stuck ether]

Care to demonstrate what an unbroken one looks like?
(I want to know the severity)

...Oh

[autumn turret]

Oh right this isn't SCW I can unspoiler this

[stuck ether]

Oh I just watched the clip

Oh my god what the fuck

Oh that's BAD

[keen garnet]

I can't watch it cause my pc think Twitch is trying to scam me 😭

[autumn turret]

Yea in the S2E the cutters teleport with Elfilis to the new position instead of staying where they were shot

[keen garnet]

nvm guess it's blocked on my wifI???

😔

[timber plaza]

imagine getting scammed by twitch lol

[autumn turret]

Here's the video

[timber plaza]

LOOOL

this is amazing

[keen garnet]

Thank you 🙏

WHAT THE 😭

[timber plaza]

so you just, die during chaos elfilis during cutter?

kinda wanna see it myself

[autumn turret]

No they were just 1 hit away and died b/c of the attack being stupid now

[timber plaza]

oh I meant like

triggering it

like do you just have to die during cutter?

[autumn turret]

No it just always happens during phase 2

[timber plaza]

mmmm

maybe I just dont remember

gonna check my recording later ig

WAIT Im dumb I thought you were talking about something else

[cloud olive]

what the fuck is that

[autumn turret]

Discord stream quality moment

Oh wait the way I combined the clips doesn't work on discord ok ig

[timber plaza]

WHY IS IT SO CRISPY

but yeah I can see it very well

[autumn turret]

Discord with the 69bps video stream

[timber plaza]

I think I simply didnt see well during my play because I was busy

[edgy sapphire]

was wondering if there's been any bugs on the s2 version

it feels like there's a few new bugs on stuff that wasnt an issue before

donno if this is a new one or just something that can happen in the base game tho

[nimble pewter]

||mass attack pinball game had giant marx as the fourth and final boss||

[stuck ether]

"Kirby and the Forgotten Land is so peak it don't need no patches"

Kirby and the Forgotten Land Switch 2 Edition + Star Crossed World:

(and the broken cutter, among other things)

[obtuse verge]

||FUCK YES||

[native mauve]

||Oh that's fun! Sparkling Stars are a treasure passed down in Dream Land for generations, they function similarly from the Sparkling Stars emerging from the Fountain of Dreams in Milky Way Wishes (both create the Starship), the New World / Halcandra ancients made the Star Rods... Yeah no, it's fun to imagine them making the Sparkling Stars :)||

||I don't think it's particularly far-fetched at all||

[chrome vigil]

||Also Kirby’s Warp Star seems to be close to a Sparkling Star too!||

||It is converted into the same power to summon nova and in DL3 it has the same looks as a Sparkling Star before Kirby jumps on it|||

[neat shuttle]

A certain site that sits on puffy clouds has the OST now (just don't confuse with the old one)

[fast crest]

(UCZ EX) ||Huh, I have never had too much trouble with Forgo Leon myself. Granted, it may be because I'm playing for speed and skip most of his boss patterns, but I regularly take little damage from him.||

[terse swan]

||Does anyone else get lag during the Gear section of the final level? Or is it just for me||

||everytime I replay it, it keeps happening in a certain spot ||

[ruby geode]

not they also not remixed ||invasion at the house of horrors (unless you count the quick nod to it at the end of crossing wondaria and burning churning power plant. in other words, my three favorite stage themes...||

[candid rover]

I BEAT IT COPYLESS!!

[grizzled grotto]

I MADE A KIRBY TIMELINE WORKED ON FOR A WHILE!!! It contains some spoilers for Star crossed world be warnedddd

[ruby geode]

while I don't agree with a lot of that that's a cool timeline at least

I'm curious why you put squeak squad before canvas curse though

[grizzled grotto]

I’m gonna be honest I always saw it as squeak squad then it goes onto canvas curse it makes sense in my head but idk why😭

[ruby geode]

lol fair

[grizzled grotto]

Thank youuuu

[ruby geode]

it's just that this is mostly release order and then that and that is a first LOL

[native mauve]

I always liked imagining Canvas Curse close to NiDL cuz Drawcia summons specifically just Dedede, Kracko and Paint Roller

[ruby geode]

~~she's just a classic kirby fan ~~

[civic sun]

Drawcia is actually just a huge Adventure fan

yeah

[grizzled grotto]

OHHHHH I ACTUALLY LOVE THAT WAIT A MINUTE… that works so well

[ruby geode]

LOL

[civic sun]

we do know Adventure as game exists in-universe at least so it isn't even impossible lmao

[ruby geode]

I need to make my own kirby timeline interpretation some day but I am also lazy

but it's mostly release order so it's a bit boring

[native mauve]

also idk probs also has to do with me trying out Canvas Curse immediately after doing NiDL as a lad

so I made that connection back then

[grizzled grotto]

SO FAIRRR U SHOULDD I get it i had to push myself to make this after so long

[grizzled grotto]

HELPSKS THATS SO REAL THATS why i put canvas after squeak squad i played it right after so it clicked in my brain that way😭

[broken sapphire]

i should update my own not-official-but-based-on-official-information kirby timeline soon

though maybe i should wait until air riders to do that in case that has continuity with any other game

but what if ANOTHER kirby game is announced before air riders releases and then i have to wait until that and it endlessly continues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7hEfR8S-74&t=72s i like this part of meteor shower's arrival a lot

[grizzled grotto]

REALLL ITS AMAZING

[grizzled grotto]

YASSS OMG OMG

[timber plaza]

It’s so peak…

Literally shivers every time this plays while playing the stage

[true aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/sopyues-beuwbs-crying-listening-to-music-sobbing-gif-21780641

Been dying to hear this part in particular since the Treehouse Direct

[timber plaza]

🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[broken sapphire]

how did i just now notice wondaria is in the star-crossed world key art

like somehow that went completely over my head lol

||fitting||

[timber plaza]

Wondaria was wiped from your memories

[terse swan]

covers the first 3 levels instead of just

[timber plaza]

I hope we get more Wondaria merch

I’m so sad there’s only 1 merchline and that was from welcome to the new park :(

The worst part is they replaced Bandee with generic waddle Dee

And they made… souvenir shop waddle Dee.. as a merch…

From Magoland…

[terse swan]

Wondaria real beloved

Awoofies love it too

they help to bring it further from being lonely

||btw what does that message say in the ferris wheel?||

[timber plaza]

|| ||

[broken sapphire]

and i also just realized that the intro of the originull wasteland map theme is based on the wastes where life began
bruh

[timber plaza]

It’s hidden well lol But yeah

[terse swan]

||which stage is your favorite so far?||

[ruby geode]

YEAH ||I realized after playing that it likely was on purpose LOL||

[broken sapphire]

wdym

[ruby geode]

oh I can't word

skill issue

fixed

[broken sapphire]

[ruby geode]

😭

[broken sapphire]

yeah

[true aurora]

||https://fxtwitter.com/shirasu_umai3/status/1963588563272175633?s=46&t=KjgI8a61BxDiubZJ7PvGsg||

Gizmo (@shirasu_umai3)

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[junior zealot]

its kinda funny how the dlc key art contrasts the main cover

[ruby geode]

YEAH KIRBY IS DOING THE SAME POSE

[junior zealot]

the main cover is supposed to be envoking the sense of mystery and us knowing very little about the game

[ruby geode]

oh true

[broken sapphire]

oh true

[junior zealot]

meanwhile on the dlc you can see elfilin lol

[broken sapphire]

[true aurora]

I love when both stories mirror each other!!!!!!!

[junior zealot]

||when theories parallel both communities you know we might be onto something||

[ruby geode]

but yeah

[junior zealot]

||also it probably means the series actually conveying its lore well lol||

[true aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/encanto-nintendo-switch-funny-gif-27255646

[junior zealot]

literally..

[ruby geode]

LOL

[broken sapphire]

somehow i still have not gotten a single duplicate figure in this playthrough

[ruby geode]

started to randomly start humming ||last song|| yippie

[broken sapphire]

*doing toy hammer treasure* sigh i miss hammer super jump

[keen garnet]

Uczex||Huh, so I'm p sure Elfilis' icon in UCZEX ahs the specific shape of Ares. Cool detail. I also just released that base Chaos Elfilis' spear is actually different from Antares, it doesn't have the funny void lines||

[broken sapphire]

dragon fire treasure

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

okay nice i beat it with 5 seconds to spare

oh cool the out of bounds with the cone in alivel mall staff side still works

[broken sapphire]

wow i really just don't remember some of these treasure roads

[junior zealot]

fake fan detected

[light quail]

i'm the fakest fan. Stopped doing the target times when i got back to the game after a year hiatus

No regrets though bc I enjoyed the game more this way lol

[junior zealot]

oh thats not fake fan behavior

thats well adjusted fan behavior

[light quail]

Yippee

[ruby geode]

still need a save with all treasure road target times...

[olive lagoon]

idk if I totally missed it but does anyone have an idea if the Twinkling Star Showers version from the initial reveal trailer is in the game

[lapis reef]

Sometimes it's fun to go for the target times, but only when I'm in the right mood.

[pastel ravine]

Yeah, I noticed that version is slightly different

Welcome back new world instrumental

[timber plaza]

Lol the Welcome to the new world incident

[pastel ravine]

I just want to hear the guitars isolated man…

[olive lagoon]

the electric guitar part in that trailer is so good

yeah

maybe it shows in nintendo music one day

[timber plaza]

Even the FL complete soundtrack didn’t add the trailer ver lol lol
At least we got Japanese version

I’d assume SCW soundtrack would get twinkling Star showers Japanese version

[civic sun]

||'Bless the Plains with Song' (the one used in simple credits)? or does it have differences from that too||

||okay yeah seems to be pretty similar besides the intro part being cut down in trailer and lacking the ending, probably would be easy enough to recreate trailer version||

[broken sapphire]

sillydillo remains to be by far the worst boss in the game

except phantom sillydillo of course

[light quail]

I remember liking silly in UCZ because I could basically just 3 tap it with toy hammer lmao

I like the boss but I get the annoyance because there's a lot of waiting with the roll attacks and dance attack

[broken sapphire]

that applies to basically every boss in the game lol

[light quail]

Real but the fact he had multiple phase transitions helped make it more mindless lol

[broken sapphire]

ONE FUCKING HEALTH AND IT DOES THE FUCKING DANCE SPINNING MOVE AGAIN

[timber plaza]

Regular Sillydillo made me die inside

[lapis reef]

Silly is one of the few I can no hit pretty reliably

But yeah the waiting can get annoying

[broken sapphire]

AND OF COURSE I GET HIT FOR THE 5TH TIME IN A ROW AND FAILED THE NO HIT MISSION WHILE IT'S AT 1 HEALTH

[light quail]

First boss I died to in the main story I'm pretty sure
(It wasn't the cage attack - I'm a good masher!!)

[broken sapphire]

half the time you dodge the thrown dance partner thing you just get hit anyway

[timber plaza]

I dont think I died at all for my first play through

[light quail]

Pro smh...
Yeah think this is the only one I died to lol

[timber plaza]

Like the only time I actually died was when I needed to restart the area

[light quail]

The roll stuff is confusing af at first

[timber plaza]

I didn’t wanna restart the whole stage so I just continuously fell in hole to reset

[broken sapphire]

i died once to fecto elfilis and once to chaos elfilis on my first 100% playthrough

[timber plaza]

I’m surprised I did chaos first try

Literally was on my way jumping into the black hole

Forgo Dreams were fun… for a while

[light quail]

I did chaos first try because I was juiced tf up but it took me getting hit by the damn sun attack like twice before I realized what you were supposed to do

What are the sun attacks called again because i thought it was devil's sun but im the only one with results for that name 😭

[civic sun]

Deadly Sun

[light quail]

Ok that makes sense how I mixed it up lol

[civic sun]

Chaos Elfilis's is Deadly Sun Grazer

[broken sapphire]

WHY DID THEY MAKE A BOSS FIGHT THAT USES ATTACKS THAT MAKE IT 90% UNHITTABLE FOR THE ENTIRE FINAL PHASE

[light quail]

||Does the new UCZEX deadly sun variant have a new name (would we even have the resources to know that name yet)||

[civic sun]

||we can't know until a guidebook comes out||

[broken sapphire]

third time i dodged the thrown dance puppet and still got hit

[light quail]

Makes sense

[broken sapphire]

god

[civic sun]

||I'd guess they'd do different one though, especially with normal variation also still being in||

[lapis reef]

I died to Elfilis once on my very first playthrough, and chaos so many times lol

[light quail]

||Yeah real. Definitely isn't grazing anymore. maybe Deadly Sun Melter or something||

[broken sapphire]

FINALLY

[lapis reef]

I'm hoping for ||a vague allusion to Mr Shine and Mr Bright lol Just because I think it would be funny||

[broken sapphire]

[light quail]

||That'd be sick actually lol||

[native mauve]

||DEADLY BRIGHT SHINE||

[light quail]

||Deadly Sun Eclipse perchance... (even if it's clearly not an eclipse)||

[broken sapphire]

||That One Attack Mr. Shine & Mr. Bright Used in Kirby's Dream Land 2 but Way Cooler or Should I Say Hotter||

[civic sun]

||what about Deadly Solar Flare||

[light quail]

||Ooh yeah I dig it||

[broken sapphire]

originull wastelands ||oh nice the timer ends quicker if you fall off during the timed challenge so you don't have to wait for it to end to try again||

[broken sapphire]

stage 10 ||oh my god i misinputted and used time crash too early but i managed to make it into the arena in time and forgot that that gives you back the full ability, thank gosh||

today i learned fleur tornado's pirouette "attack" doesn't activate big starryflowers
huh

"A new Starry Stage will appear when you save the kidnapped Elfilin. Hang in there, Elfilin!"

[light quail]

Hang in there, Elfilin!

[timber plaza]

Do not save the rodent

[broken sapphire]

[junior zealot]

wtf

save the rodent!

[timber plaza]

No!!!!!

[junior zealot]

yes!!!!!!

[timber plaza]

Do not save the stinky rodent

[junior zealot]

he is not stinky he takes showers

and baths

[broken sapphire]

no need to fight, i have no choice but to save the rodent

[timber plaza]

Erm we didn’t see him shower in game

[junior zealot]

you know who likely never took a shower

magolor

[timber plaza]

ONLY IN MAGOLOR EPILOGUE

[broken sapphire]

yeah the lor doesn't have a shower

rain doesn't count

[timber plaza]

He showers with water Kirby’s water

MAGOLOR IS CLEAN

I KNOW THIS BECAUSE

Uh

I guess he smells like Kirby everyday

[broken sapphire]

brian griffin redgar forbidden lands world map music jumpscare meme video

go my homing bomblings

[junior zealot]

its only because he's stalking him 🤭

/j

[timber plaza]

SOB

Magolor is just being overprotective!! Duh!!

He gotta keep his bf safe

[broken sapphire]

FUCK I MISSED A MISSION HOW

[timber plaza]

Which one

[broken sapphire]

oh nevermind

the missions are just... in the wrong order for some reason??

why is the second mission in conquer the inferno road for the last area

while the third one is for the first area

[ruby geode]

yeah some are a bit misleading

[broken sapphire]

this is the battle of blizzard bridge maxim tomato all over again

but for that one i at least can see where they're coming from putting it at the end, maybe as a hint to the secret path (but it's stil stupid)

but this one just seems like a straight up mistake

time for the stage with gigi's favorite track

[ruby geode]

PEAK

[broken sapphire]

true

[ruby geode]

[broken sapphire]

kirby could you please stop getting crushed to death i'm TRYING to get to the hal room

[timber plaza]

Rip mission

[broken sapphire]

oh fuck

lmao

forgot about that one

[timber plaza]

I think the most stressful one is when you get crashed by a wall when you go in the hole but you’re like .1 second late

[true aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-gif-8957558

[timber plaza]

You get crashed in between the wall and the hole

Actually 1984

[true aurora]

1987 is when you get crushed inside of an animatronics mouth

[broken sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-surprised-shocked-horror-gif-10137395

oh my god i had time crash and saw the lantern that slows down the crusher but i just used time crash instead

i've never done that before

SHIT I CAN'T GET UP FURTHER THOUGH NVM

[pastel ravine]

I hope that hurt him

[broken sapphire]

[pastel ravine]

stupid puffball, he has too many amazing games under his belt grrr

[broken sapphire]

i failed the don't get crushed mission again in like 15 seconds

[pastel ravine]

Which world is that in

I forgot

[red mango]

||last stage||

[broken sapphire]

burning churning power plant

[red mango]

oh

[timber plaza]

Gigi’s house

[pastel ravine]

Gigi lives on the edge

[timber plaza]

Gigi wakes up every morning to redgar noise

[pastel ravine]

Loud ass trumpet

[ruby geode]

WHAT

[timber plaza]

DOOOOOOOO

DOOOOOOOOOOO

DAAAAAA DAAAAA DAAAAAAAAAAA

[pastel ravine]

Hi Gigi, can I have your house blueprints please

[ruby geode]

well I live in brazil so close enough

[timber plaza]

can I have the deep sleep blueprint thanks

[silver solar]

Yuki Kato is such an awesome addition to the sound team, let's hope we get more of him down the line

[broken sapphire]

[broken sapphire]

okay what is it with me suddenly noticing a bunch of leitmotifs in this game

now i find out the near the start of the beast pack's final stand references burning churning power plant

[grave swallow]

YES

I FINALLY BEAT ||UCZEX|| WITH BASE HAMMER

[broken sapphire]

nicee

[grave swallow]

38 minutes

[broken sapphire]

you don't need to spoiler tag the name of the ultimate cup z ex btw lol

[grave swallow]

Ah ok thx

[broken sapphire]

cause it was in the final trailer

[grave swallow]

Gotcha

How do i post the screenshot

[broken sapphire]

in your switch 2 folder you can select it and send to smart device and then you can send it to your nintendo switch app on your phone if you have that and then you can download it from there

unnecessarily complicated but it works

[grave swallow]

I just took a pic of it with my phone, I mean how to post it here

[broken sapphire]

oh

check #important-information

[grave swallow]

Tag this or nah?

[broken sapphire]

a screenshot of the actual results might need to be spoilered though yeah

[grave swallow]

I mean it looks identical yo the ucz one

[broken sapphire]

even though there's technically no real spoilers it's still lategame content

[grave swallow]

Those top 3 times are masked, morpho, space ranger btw

In order

[fast crest]

Huh, your best time was with Masked Dedede Hammer?

I think my best runs on UCZ EX (all done on Morpho) are close to that time

[broken sapphire]

man i forgot how long even base forgotten land is to complete everything

anyway forgo dedede time

me when i wear the mask that turns me into an evil dog

holy shit no hitting this fight is way too easy with space ranger lol

and here we are!

[twin junco]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[broken sapphire]

"We, the ones they left behind in this forgotten land."

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-book-fire-fire-book-his-writing-is-fire-as-a-child-i-yearned-for-the-mines-gif-7492916682126134420

[ruby geode]

this is about air riders but it's also implied spoilers here so lol

||I can't wait for dark matter's swordsman older brother with some crazy name to be the main villain of air riders ||

[broken sapphire]

yup fecto forgo is definitely still the creepiest kirby boss

[junior zealot]

||gigi what you just described is kinda just zero 😭 ||

||like. dark matter lost and he got so angy he went back and bitched about it to zero so zero now came to popstar||

[ruby geode]

JHGDFSDGD TRUE

[lapis reef]

True but at least ||"Zero" is obvious how to say it and easy to remember 😭😭||

[junior zealot]

||i just call him genwel||

[broken sapphire]

||https://fxtwitter.com/ToonsMyst/status/1963586816390696994|| ultimate cup z ex final boss

Obvious™ (COMMS OPEN 8 SLOTS) (@ToonsMyst)

Look at this cover i did of Milo Murphy law theme song

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[civic sun]

||finally, Meteonark Matter....||

[pastel ravine]

|| Dunce Matter||

[broken sapphire]

man i forgot just how insanely awesome fecto elfilis's fight is

they really just made a truck fall out the sky huh

yeah okay i still think the big rig section is the hypest moment of any kirby game

just the whole cinematography is amazing

i have never used that word in my life

oh wow the pre-rendered ending cutscene does not look like it has a good resolution when viewed on the switch 2 😭

anyway main story complete yay

||god the way scw completely recontextualizes welcome to the new world (or at least does it even more than before)||

[ruby geode]

||I HAVE BEEN SAYING BEFORE THAT WELCOME TO THE NEW WORLD WAS JUST PROPAGANDA!!!!!!||

[broken sapphire]

yeah a lot of people did i think lol

[ruby geode]

||best thing about this DLC was having theories confirmed||

[ruby geode]

I was the only one smh!!!!!

[broken sapphire]

||but it's genuinely so cool
literally everyone first playing the game thinks the song is welcoming you to THIS new world
but in reality it was used to LEAVE this world to a better new world||

[lapis reef]

I like that it works both ways

[broken sapphire]

exactly

[ruby geode]

yippie

oh right I should rethink this (not spoilers lol)

of course this ||doesn't account for the main reason they left as in funny melfilis||

[civic sun]

nah there was a bit, even in this server see bit of results from searching

[junior zealot]

yeah i also believed that theory

[ruby geode]

guys it's a joke 😭

[junior zealot]

okie dokie ....

[ruby geode]

I am the only person who theorized this

but yeah

[broken sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-patrick-patrick-star-and-everyone-died-gif-11686502160601925661

[ruby geode]

YEAH

[true aurora]

Luigi when he and Mario encounter an enemy in the overworld

[ruby geode]

it is funny to think maybe that's how the ancients ended

I still believe it was that

they fucked up so much everyone died

[junior zealot]

considering there is some build up i feel like we will inevitably meet one of the og ancients face to face at some point

[ruby geode]

I hope

[pastel ravine]

|| Me when I have to kill Neichel because I’m bored:||

[ruby geode]

at this rate I believe anything.

[junior zealot]

i also was wondering if dlc was planned from the start

like consoles take time to make, as does project planning

there is so much more plot info in the dlc it makes me curious if they left all those things more ambigious and unanswered on purpose

[ruby geode]

my theory is still that this was separate project but I'm having second guesses on planned or not

but I do think they made FL first and later "okay, can we do this"

[civic sun]

I think they mostly just spread out even more after whatever happened with Halcandra (well, the remaining people from that, anyway)

[ruby geode]

unless this DLC's plot was maybe planned for a sequel and kuma managed to change it to be in DLC

[lapis reef]

At minimum, it was probably a good opportunity to flesh out ideas that didn't fit directly into the scope of the main game

[ruby geode]

plot was DEF planned, I just don't know if it was planned for this I mean

[junior zealot]

there is one thing that made me wonder if it was planned and its elfilis's staff

apparently staff's name has a meaning that suggests ||a double||

[ruby geode]

ah yeah

[junior zealot]

i feel lazy to go back to leaks thread and search for clay's theory

but he was right on the money with this

and that was from the OG GAME

so like

||elfilis's big crazy brother was probably planned 😭 ||

[ruby geode]

|| > He bears a spear named Ares, which is the Greek counterpart of Mars, and the god of war in Greek mythology. The name also pairs with that of Fecto Elfilis' spear Antares, whose name literally means 'opposite of Mars' or 'not Mars'.||

[junior zealot]

YEAH LIKE

TELL ME THIS IS A COINCIDENCE

[ruby geode]

in restrospect that feels obvious

[civic sun]

||doesn't necessarily means there had to be a double, but yeah||

[ruby geode]

||antares is a binary star system, which is likely also why it was chosen (to parallel elfilis + elfilin) but yeah||

[civic sun]

||and tbf there was also already bit of binary star stuff in base game so it was hard to tell if it was more that lol||

[ruby geode]

||it feels too big brain||

lol

same brain

[flat wadi]

||I can’t believe elfilis is a lobster ||

[civic sun]

||is really funny having more binary star/duo stuff with yet another character (connected to Elfilis)||

||mentioning, really want to know what 'Distant Binary Stars' Elfilis and Genwel are from||

[autumn turret]

Oh I was wondering waht this message was in English

[rotund mountain]

Dud star crossed worlds come with any upgraded abilities

[brazen nova]

No new ones

[burnt wedge]

What is this, a Lore for ants?

[mild dome]

I need help ||what is that music that plays during ex cup phantom meta knight I need it||

[broken sapphire]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEcsRPRTi4w||

[timber plaza]

||I still love how this song actually fits well with the battle||

[mild dome]

THANK Y0OU

[grave swallow]

So I first cleared UCZEX with toy hammer yesterday and now I already have 10 abilities down

All hammers, morpho, tier 3 fire, ice, ranger, and cutter, and tier 2 fire

Anyone ever figure out why volcano fire is literally just 90% as good as dragon fire even unleveled?

I think I'll be able to do it with all tier 3s and most tier 2s eventually. Idk about bases

Also no ability will be fine

[broken sapphire]

this is what was going through my head when i was fighting ||z ex chaos elfilis||

[mild dome]

LOL

[mild dome]

if I had it I would slime all of em out with base cutter

[fast crest]

It would probably take up a lotta space if they made higher resolution renders (and probably a chunk of change handed over to those who animated it) so I'm not surprised at only the SCW stuff being rendered at the resolutions Switch 2 could output

[fast crest]

While not something to rule out, I feel like that's not the case, personally. Or at least, I feel like there's a greater likelihood that Kumazaki & co. have ideas on the table that they never got around to, lying on the cutting room floor, with their work on the NS2 Edition being an opportunity to capitalise on some of those ideas they never explored before.

In other words, I feel like Kumazaki definitely had the setting fleshed out more than what we saw in the base game, he just had the chance to shed just a little more light on it with this expansion. Of course, at the timing of Kirby's 30th Anniversary, they were likely to have been working on it behind the scenes... (SCW lore/100%) ||Makes me wonder if the reveal of NEICHEL was done so that her existence was hinted at long before her story significance was revealed||

[stuck ether]

Arright let's see how UCZex fares in difficulty compared to UCZ when I use the strongest things ever, with drugs

[midnight ether]

||I’m annoyed they didn’t bring back Morpho Knight EX for Z EX ||

[autumn turret]

|| I will eat up all 5 million vocaloid covers of last song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHwTs2tEZQ8 ||

[red mango]

it's not surprising but it's kinda funny that three members of the sound team were like "yeah let's remix north east frost street" and then had to fit them all into one world

[stuck ether]

[UCZEX]
Did a run with Toy Hammer+⭐ and 400 seconds of speed and power...

||Ok so basically, a MAJORITY of phantom bosses are noticibly vulnerable in here compared to UCZ. I've been able to stop them upon their first attack of their last phase. Gorimondo is one that I've had issue chasing after.||

[autumn turret]

||Yea my impression from the first ever time I saw ZEX was 'oh they rearranged their attacks to be less annoying' for the random section||

[stuck ether]

My boosts ran out for the last 2 bosses, so IDK how much time I could've saved if I invested in 200 more seconds

[autumn turret]

||No more stupid maze right the start of phantom tropic woods! No more sandstorm sillydillo during raised defense!||

[grave swallow]

I'd watch that

Cutter may very well be the second worst base ability. Buzzsaw cutter is a very solid A- tier though

Is there a community FL ability tier list? Anyone have one of their own?

[red mango]

also music ||I like how both tracks for redgar are just their respective composers reusing the style of Magma Flows and Quest Board/TKCD credits respectively||

[edgy sapphire]

cutter is actually a high/mid tier ability in UCZ speedruns

in a no buff section, chakram cutter nearly ties with morpho sword

the worst ability for TAs is fire in FL from the looks of it

likely bc it has no huge burst damage and a number of bosses can just dispel the burn DoT the ability works hard on trying to build

[light quail]

top 3 just being hammer is very funny to me
wild hammer being the 5th fastest but being dogged for being the worst hammer is pretty funny

[edgy sapphire]

imagine being able to skip phases

[icy tapir]

what does the color rings mean

[edgy sapphire]

just what copy ability it is

the base one doesnt have a ring for some reason

[ruby geode]

wow this is funny that regular hammer is stronger than masked hammer

[patent sluice]

single hits seems to scale damage better

it basically just skips the steps of the multihit of masked hammer

its also why base ranger is better then space ranger

[timber plaza]

the multi hit is fun and satisfying but it makes it harder to get the boss's health down as low as you can

[ruby geode]

ah right

I forgot about that

[timber plaza]

hence why toy hammer solos lol

[ruby geode]

for some reason I thought that was only for toy hammer out of the hammers

[patent sluice]

toy hammer is just bigger hitbox and faster for normal swings

but i think when at star+ its the same damage

[timber plaza]

the toy hammer's funny weak ahh noise being the strongest is still a comedy

[lapis reef]

Squeaky hammer solos

[timber plaza]

Toy Hammer in Japanese is called Piko Piko Hammer, which Piko Piko is onomatopoeia for something squeaky— or retro game noise
So essentially it’s called somewhere Squeak-Squeaky Hammer

[icy tapir]

we just call them Squeaky Hammers

[trim lodge]

The new song || 予知…ウタ…煽動 ファ ルゥ ワァーアー is 'Farewell' at the end?||

[ruby geode]

no

||ファ ルゥ ファーアー/Fa-lu-wa-a is likely what the word "meteor" is in the new world language||

[autumn turret]

I'm actually surprised Wild Hammer is worse than Masked Hammer despite that

[red mango]

i don't remember exactly what they changed to make it feel slower

was it charge time

or was it hammer flip startup

[edgy sapphire]

everything more or less

startup is much worse for all of its attacks

it takes longer to reach the 3rd level i think (but dodging helps cut through most of it)

[autumn turret]

||Also I just processed two things I noticed but didn't really realize before about Genwel||
||His Ares Belt or whatever you wanna call the ground slash breaks the crystal mountains around the battlefield but like none of his other attacks do, unlike Elfilis where any of their attacks breaks the antenna tower on Lab Discovera
So I guess they removed Meteon's ability to hit gimmicks on all the other attacks
A second thing I noticed is that they forgot to actually tell you you get a checkpoint on genwel phase 2
Which admittedly its evident 0 people actually pay attention to the Checkpoint notification they added in FL anyway but still||

[timber plaza]

W*ld hammer

Tbh masked hammer is good as itself

Wild hammer is legit, crap

[autumn turret]

Every single attack of wild hammer is slower

the normal hammer attack is the worst, it only swings once before doing the stronger final swing that legitimately takes longer than a hammer flip from the other hammers

[light quail]

Shoulda made it double damage when fully upgraded to compensate clearly
(it's top 5 it doesn't actually need that)

[red mango]

the ironic part is the way they made damage scale with power ups makes it only deal as much as base hammer and toy hammer do as well

so it's straight up just worse than both

[autumn turret]

Well that's the weird thing
When you get them at base value its an evolution and basically every evolution is stronger than the previous one
Its only at +⭐ where they all balance out to equal but with different strengths and weaknesses

But wild hammer just has no strengths

It just objectively becomes Toy Hammer but it swings slower

Because they for some reason made those two have the exact same power at +⭐

[light quail]

If they did make it top 1 dps to compensate that would be kinda peak. Although something stronger than toy hammer is scary to consider. Literal one shot on every boss

[twin junco]

so is toy hammer strat just spam the base attack

[light quail]

usually hammer flips but i think there's situations where base attack or base aerial is good

[autumn turret]

no its to spam hammer flip

[light quail]

i know there's a part where you wanna whittle down gorimondo with like a half charged hammer flip and an aerial attack so that a fully charged hammer flip skips past his phase change? smth like that

[autumn turret]

yea

Same for fecto elfilis and sillydillo phase 3

Chaos Elfilis core is also like that but iirc its actually just faster to let it transition to anger than wait around

[twin junco]

hammer flip is the holding b right

[edgy sapphire]

ye

[light quail]

Yee the smash bros move

[twin junco]

gotcha

uncharged or

[light quail]

I always sucked at trying to skip the phase on chaos orb back when I would mess around with ucz lol

Fully charged usually

[twin junco]

ic

[edgy sapphire]

2nd charge has uses if you're going to be chaining dodges

[light quail]

Ideally from a dodge because that skips the charge up to half and then you can charge up to full pretty quickly

Yeah

[edgy sapphire]

and/or getting at a specific health range

[autumn turret]

This is the current ZEX record ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWXuZgCcgX8&t=343s ||

This is the UCZ record without spamming Crash for half the arena https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie5jS1KFNCo

[light quail]

||Oh man forgot how good that guitar remix of scw main theme is in the uczex lobby||

Lol @ them just facetanking gorimondo

[edgy sapphire]

was about to say it's neat that ppl found out how to beat ||ZEX's elfilis orb before the 2nd phase hits, but I then noticed the power ups ||

[heady quiver]

Goddamn dude

[edgy sapphire]

tho I forgot if it was possible in regular UCZ w/o power ups

[heady quiver]

I plan to go for sub 10 at some point but there’s no way I’m getting it that low lmao

[light quail]

forgot how generous FL is with depth perception
this registering as a hit looks funny lol

[edgy sapphire]

they're using buffs, so it isnt too impossible to reach

like im sure I got a 8.5 min on my ZEX run w/ buffs

[autumn turret]

it should be, iirc the core has a huge gap in its brain where it just never checks if its angry

[edgy sapphire]

yea during the double star lasers

[light quail]

||galactal taking 2 fully charged swings... Goddamn them things are tanky||

[edgy sapphire]

donno how it really works tho if you can just freely wail at it until it fires the triple shots or not

[light quail]

Ohhh they pause to watch morpho's teleport trail to anticipate catching it that's so smart

[autumn turret]

Lemme see
Black Hole
Loop start
Check angry
Short Laser-Rotate Move-Short Laser-Rotate Move-Short Laser-Rotate Move-Short Laser-Short Laser-Short Laser
Check Angry
Rotate Move
Check Angry
Warp-Warp-Warp-Warp Shooter Cutter-Warp-Shooter Cutter
Check Angry
Diffusion Laser
Loop End

?????

Why did they put two back to back anger checks here separated by the core moving once

[edgy sapphire]

gotta make sure

[keen garnet]

Cause they had a stroke of genius to make them check for angry constantly, but only did it there cause they forgo(r)

[light quail]

Run check angry on every single frame to make Absolutely Sure it works

[autumn turret]

I mean that's how every other boss works yea

[light quail]

Makes sense actually lol

[autumn turret]

You hit them to angry and they immediately get hit out of whatever they're normally doing

But the core doesn't enter anger immediately on passing the threshold and instead only when it checks between attacks

[light quail]

guess they just wanted elfilis to be a bit more seamless so it looks Cooler

[autumn turret]

There's a few other bosses in modern kirby that do this but normally those bosses do that to hide the fact that they even went angry

[edgy sapphire]

||giant genwel/meteoelfilis is like that as well||

[autumn turret]

Like Kracko or Hyness in Star Allies only start doing harder attacks at half health (For hooded hyness and for both normal and twin kracko)

[autumn turret]

Oh yea

[edgy sapphire]

||checks for when it should use the building attacks twice I think||