LEAKS for Star-Crossed World (and FL Switch 2)

[crude copper]

this dlc made me like elfilin waaaay more

[tight depot]

||It's cool how Elfilis' and MeteonElfilis' spears have names that relate to astronomy/Greek myth||

[crude copper]

tag the other boss's name btw

but yeah it is cool

[dire ledge]

Little fluffy creature that talks for you because the protag is silent and explains the world and ||tells you to befriend people who you literally already just fought and beat up because there's kindness in everyone||

fgucking

[tight depot]

Right my bad

[dire ledge]

im adding ralsei to the meme image

[dense mantle]

My favorite part of the charecter is that they are ||brothers||

[crude copper]

so where is the part where elfilin is also doomed by the narrative

[tight depot]

Kirby might have the some of the most varied plots of any platforming series out there

[crude copper]

(that part is when we visit the planet of his race with him and he realizes that he's fucked)

[dire ledge]

Honestly no friend of Kirby can be doomed by narrative

[crude copper]

i know

[dire ledge]

because Kirby

[crude copper]

i was just joshing

[cosmic patio]

can't wait for ||Kirby and the Forgotten Land - Nintendo Switch 3 Edition + Star-Crossed World & Neichel's Adventure & Knuckles||

[thorn sleet]

[crude copper]

she didnt become a friend yet...

[thorn sleet]

(No haltmann doodle)

[dire ledge]

theyre not friends. . . .

Honestly

I want like

a castlevania aesthetic for Taranza

like

give him the aetshetic and aura farming of Alucard Castlevania

please and thanks

[crude copper]

tbh it paints a picture for a story where kirby somehow ends up meeting past sectonia and they befriend each other without realizing what will happen in the future

this is not something that will happen in the game but fanfic writers go crazy

[dire ledge]

why did i spoiler that thats not related to anythuing here

[crude copper]

this means that alucard appears in this dlc

why did you spoil it like that for everybody

[last fox]

hey listen I'm down for Taranza getting flower shop game

[dire ledge]

and a truck that runs down ||Meteonelfilis|| obviously

[vapid pawn]

Hey guys reverse Alucard

[dire ledge]

this is how ||Eflilin befriends Melfilin||

[vapid pawn]

You will get scared

[last fox]

final boss ||oh that's why Meteonelfilis isn't dead yet, he hasn't gotten isekai'd||

[thorn sleet]

Ironically Magolor stole my idea for a secc game would love to’ve seen her fight out of the underworld by her own accord

[crude copper]

tbf he didnt end up in the actual underworld

[glossy cedar]

DONT WORRY

[dire ledge]

if they thematically put ||Morpha in a Taranza/Sect plot|| it would be peak and your idea can still happen

[crude copper]

imagine triple deluxe remake with sectonia extra mode where she fights through kirby's version of yomi

now that would be raw

[vapid pawn]

Sectonia leeching off the powers of others' ghosts and then fighting the ruler, Morpho Knight, master at absorbing souls>>>>

[crude copper]

EXACTLY

YOU GET IT

[tight depot]

||I was wondering if the fight would end with a Mouthful Mode attack. But nope, Kirby just boxxed MeteonElfilis into submission. Didn't even need a special gimmick this time.💪||

[crude copper]

also fighting as a character that has dual rapiers sounds raw as hell ngl

[vapid pawn]

But yea the Magolor Epilogue point system

Would be perfect for sectonia

Cuz of the leeching bit

[elder ice]

Do you remember the time kumazaki made taranza art

[last fox]

except you won't get Morpho Knight

[vapid pawn]

Ofc

[last fox]

you'll get Morpho something else

because that's too obvious

[crude copper]

morpho mind

[vapid pawn]

Still aura tho

[dire ledge]

I dont. Post it now.

[vapid pawn]

No see

[last fox]

Oh I know which art you're referring to

[vapid pawn]

She will fight Dark Meta Knight because dmk made her crazy!1!1!1!!

[tight depot]

Fun fact:
There's a version of the opening scene of Star Crossed World where it's just Kirby and Elfilin isn't there. I assume this would happen if you start up the game while Elfilin is currently captured

[elder ice]

https://x.com/SorcerEthan/status/1398661001072025605?t=ptRqHLHzLamWk2WSJuS7-w&s=19

Ethan (@SorcerEthan)

If you’re new to Kumazaki’s personal art, here’s what appears to be his personal Taranza

X · May 29, 2021, 3:22 PM

Here

[crude copper]

its funny to me that there are people in 2025 that unironically believe it

i actually met them before

its wild

[crude copper]

i wish kuma did more fucked up art of his kirby characters lol

[last fox]

yeah that one lol

[vapid pawn]

Don't forget these

[tight depot]

This is why she/Taranza need a new campaign to set the record straight

[crude copper]

he didnt have to draw haltmann like that

[astral solar]

Welp there goes 40 mins of my life 🥲

[last fox]

imo Triple Deluxe can gain a remake that adds the whole mirror thing in a way that isn't explained in a Miiverse post or Kirby Clash

[vapid pawn]

PLEASE

[dire ledge]

yeah its got hands

[last fox]

DMK in Triple Deluxe really just kind of came out of nowhere

[elder ice]

Request more gijinkas in kumazakis ig

[last fox]

but it was a Dimensional Mirror reference in the game

[elder ice]

He's super active

[tight depot]

Dude wanted to be included only to get cancelled

[dire ledge]

maybe this is why they named that ||track in UCZ-EX||

[tender kernel]

yeah it does, Yukkuri posted it before

[crude copper]

honestly my main with for 3ds duology is to get re-releases where lore is actually inserted back into the game itself

fucking

add magolor into both games

and he will sell you lore

or something

i dont know!!!

[tender kernel]

obviously can only get it with preexisting saves lol

[vapid pawn]

Microtransagolor

He's back

[tight depot]

It's honestly a crazy amount of attention to detail

[last fox]

Kirby's Dream Collection 2

Triple Deluxe and Planet Robobot

[crude copper]

magolor be like "hey kirby wanna read about how taranza and sectonia totally kissed each other"

[dire ledge]

klu i cant stop thinking about Ralsei Elfilin parallels

[last fox]

but also every single 3DS eShop spinoffs in it

[dire ledge]

yuo find them in a town at the start of the game

[vapid pawn]

Petal to Metal 🔥🔥🔥

[thorn sleet]

And when she wins https://vxtwitter.com/kapchison/status/1298888783765467137?s=21

5ヘルス🕸 (@kapchison)

月蝕の黒蝶
マスクドセクトニア https://t.co/iiLJ5ZehFQ

vxTwitter / fixvx · Aug 27, 2020, 7:43 AM

[dire ledge]

you gather friends to live in the town

to build the town

klu help

[tender kernel]

ah yeah there's the video

[vapid pawn]

Aura

Unironically Soul Chaos Sectonia would be hard af as a design

[dire ledge]

Oh my god Ralsei and Elfilin are actually alike help

[last fox]

Team Kirby Clash Deluxe included in Dream Collection 2 but without any gem apple lock

[crude copper]

elfilin and ralsei are indeed very similar... they also have very low self-esteem and would much rather do things for the sake of others rather than themselves

[vapid pawn]

It growing with your progression would be nice

LOL

Like after each mission you can go there or smth

[crude copper]

also add kirby's blowout blast there too

[vapid pawn]

Instead of

24h

[crude copper]

and then its perfect

[last fox]

Well the tree could grow depending on your general progression

[vapid pawn]

Yeah

[last fox]

not just in TKCD

but everything else

[crude copper]

finally

kirby clash can be a good game

[last fox]

and the problem with this

is that I might redo the entire game again if they do that lol

[dire ledge]

They should make Elfilin plush jokes in future spinoffs

[weary patrol]

I thought we’d get a fake Elfilin and Kirby plush by now lol

With a cage accessory

[last fox]

and then HAL actually goes insane and (100%) ||actually TDX and PR would be tied to the whole lore in some way in a clearer way lol||

[crude copper]

yknow if they ever make kirby rpg elfilin would be a perfect guide character

[tight depot]

||HAL is getting devious with these bosses that spawn multiple black hole moves around you rather than just having a single one to run away from||

[dusty hedge]

PLEASE I was so surprised when I learned that it wasn't mentioned anywhere in the game it's craszy to me 😭

[dire ledge]

yeah i'd like ||TDX and PR to be expanded upon on the lore||

[crude copper]

i used to think bandee would be it. but

[torpid locust]

I've been thinking about that

[crude copper]

elfilin is even better at that lol

[weary patrol]

Come to think of it do we even have plushes or figures of guys like Gorimondo or other beast pack members?

[torpid locust]

Bandee could be support

[crude copper]

no

carol has a bootleg plush but thats it

[last fox]

at least the whole memory loss thing in Planet Robobot was at least in some way in the game

[weary patrol]

That’s a shame. I’d get a sillydillo one in a heartbeat

[last fox]

But I missed it completely because of the localization

[crude copper]

yeah beast pack deserve better ngl

[tight depot]

||I won't Forget super Soul Magolor spawning two black holes on both sides of the screen you have to run to and fro from||

[crude copper]

fandom kinda hated them when the game was new but they were always endearing to me

[torpid locust]

who

[vapid pawn]

If they did do a Kirby Clash thing again I want it to be a combo of Clash 1 and 2 but with a clearer story
First half of the game is the Taranza and Mirror plot, second half is about the hidden Parallel, Parallel Nightmare, who is plotting his own schemes after Taranza's goofiness created vro by accident

[torpid locust]

who's hating on sillydillo, I will fight them

[vapid pawn]

I think this would be like

The ideal for me

[weary patrol]

I love them a lot! Gorimondo was a fun first boss and they all had a good amount of character

[crude copper]

it was fairly prevalent viewpoint that beast pack had bad designs and no personality (wrong takes on both)

[last fox]

The problem though is how it can just make Super Kirby Clash outdated lol

[vapid pawn]

True

[weary patrol]

Silly Dillo is the standout I feel though like I think people generally at least thought he was fine

[last fox]

so HAL probably wants not to do that

[crude copper]

i think ppl warmed up to them over time

elfilin was also not too liked at first

fecto elfilis was the only character from the game that was unambigious fan favorite from the start

[mental osprey]

||Neichel's song being heard throughout the galaxy feels very Splatooncore actually lol||

[thorn sleet]

The problem with following up on TDX is that I don’t think it’s entirely feasible to do.

You either dedicate a whole game to a direct sequel, which I’m getting more and more unsure HAL will ever do for the sake of keeping the series simple, as they should

Or you put it in a sidemode for an anniversary port, which is… a little limited, potentially. It’d be doable, but difficult, I think.

Orrr you make a spinoff without Kirby and sell 90.000 copies

[torpid locust]

I blame the betrayal memes

[last fox]

The alternative is also... new story arc?

I mean

They can also do that lol

[weary patrol]

I always assumed the Elfilin hate was a joke about how everyone thought they’d betray us

[vapid pawn]

Me when the Sectonia Mode shows Soul of Sectonia's death which removes the canonicity debate>>>>

[crude copper]

make a game that is largely standalone in the main story but has taranza in it in a major role but dedicate post-game modes to be more direct continuation of tdx

[crude copper]

nah people didnt like how bland he was apparently

[mental osprey]

Beast Pack are still like
My favorite guilty pleasure characters ever
Like yeah compared to previous antagonists they may seem lame but like they got a fucking gorilla tho...

[thorn sleet]

That’d be the ideal yea

[tight depot]

It's funny how one figure mentions that Wild Edge, Frosty and Bonkers act so wild it even puts off the Beast Pack
They wanna fit in so bad that they got a little carried away😝

[last fox]

Elfilin was not universally liked but I always thought he was fine

I do think the Beast Pack is a little too unoriginal for my tastes but they're still cool

[weary patrol]

Lowkey think they should just include characters like Taranza and Susie like how they included the Squeak Squad in mass attack

[thorn sleet]

dunno if they’ll do that for the series 9th most popular character though (according to an almost decade-old outdated popularity poll)

[crude copper]

tbh i always really liked how beast pack expressed their personalities through their fighting style and how we got more info about their interpersonal dynamics through figurines

like yeah they arent as intrinsically interesting as mage sisters but

they are fun!

[weary patrol]

Like let them be responsible for a shop in game or something if they’re afraid of making them the main focus again
Introduces new fans to them in an easy way while giving longtime fans of the characters something to enjoy with them

[dire ledge]

anyway

[crude copper]

he is more popular than susie in japan and susie keeps showing up in stuff so idk

[weary patrol]

Like shop keeper Magolor

[crude copper]

plus triple deluxe is like. over 10 years old now

time to capitalize on nostalgia

[tight depot]

One of the new figures talks about the beast council a little more too

[last fox]

All I want

is seeing Taranza do something else than smelling a flower

[crude copper]

this makes me feel so old by the way triple deluxe is even why im HERE 😭

[vapid pawn]

Forgotten Land 2 leak

[crude copper]

I REMEMBER PLAYING IT WHEN IT WAS JUST 1 YEAR OLD GAME...

[last fox]

remember when Kirby was dead

[tight depot]

It's wild how much we're clamoring for them to visit those games again because there's genuinely so much good they could add on or clear up by doing so

[crude copper]

when kirby was dead i didnt know what kirby was

so no

[weary patrol]

Taranza should give us a flower shop next game that we can buy power ups/ability upgrades from (if the next game takes place on dreamland)

[crude copper]

i feel like they will eventually because they are very loved, but at the same time its not the biggest priority so they are taking their time lol

i know that once taranza is announced for air riders people will be happy

[cosmic patio]

99% of kirby fans quit right before they get a 3d open world kirby game set in dream land

[elder ice]

Why does gorimondo have beef with obama

[dire ledge]

added that image to this meme

[vapid pawn]

I have no idea

[weary patrol]

If the next game is open world I’d be a little upset idk how open world would fully work with Kirby tbh

[haughty nexus]

Mentioned in a Kirby game before him

[dusty hedge]

I really want a 3d dreamland game that's designed like how the environments appear in the pre-rendered cutscenes.

[last fox]

||it needs a dapper hat||

[crude copper]

personally id moreso like the approach of big areas to explore than straight up open world

[dusty hedge]

Like all of the rolling hills and stuff. It would be so cool

[crude copper]

i think open world would be too overwhelming for the series goals

[thorn sleet]

Btw wanna point out Kumazaki posted the first one the same day that Team Kirby Clash Deluxe released which was the first time Taranza was seen holding his own flower

[mental osprey]

||Wild Edge: "Huzzah! With us Mid-Bosses from Planet Popstar and our Beast Pack comrades from the New World! That pesky squire Kirby shall never stand a chance against us!"||

||Fleurina:||

[crude copper]

(being friendly to beginners)

[vapid pawn]

TRUE

[weary patrol]

That’s what I was thinking. Like odyssey

[tight depot]

QUESTION: What year do you think the next mainline Kirby will come out and will it be 2D or 3D?

[vapid pawn]

ITS PEAK YEA

[crude copper]

credits for the dlc suggest that its 3d

[last fox]

Also yeah please remember that Kirby will always be aimed at beginners

[crude copper]

because kamiyama (the director of the original game) was not involved with dlc and only mentioned in special thanks

which means he's busy with something else

[haughty nexus]

It will be 4d cause Kirby will go into another dimension wink wink

[dire ledge]

i need him with Castlevania aesthetic

[weary patrol]

They’ll probably continue with new 3D games and 2D remakes/remasters j feel

[dire ledge]

im dying on this hill

[thorn sleet]

tbh what i really wonder is when we’ll get a new game at all

[cosmic patio]

you should add this

[thorn sleet]

(Riders is soon ik but you know what I mean)

[dire ledge]

CV-aesthetic Taranza game that revives the Metroidvania aspects of Amazing Mirror

[crude copper]

kumazaki did confirm that they plan on making 2d games in the future, not specifying that its remakes exclusive thing

[haughty nexus]

35 anni seems like a good release year

[rapid cloud]

someone answer me in #1410236410564182097 ty

[crude copper]

my prediction is that next year we are getting an announcement and an actual new game will come out in 2027

[weary patrol]

I’ll be honest I’m sure we’ll get crumbs next directions since Riders is a completely different team from normal games (SEEMINGLY, ANYWAYS)

[crude copper]

which would be kirby's 35th anniversary anyway

[crude copper]

kumazaki still will be involved since he's the general director of the series

[tight depot]

Yeah 2D remakes alongside new 3D games make a lot of sense
And I'm gonna guess a 2028 release or late 2027 if they're a good ways into development already which is possible

[crude copper]

but most of the dev team is bound to be different yeah

[tight depot]

But definitely 2028 at the latest, o doubt it'll be any longer

[weary patrol]

Ah true

[crude copper]

i think 2027 is likely because with switch 2 i doubt HAL will need as much time figuring out how to optimize these games

lmao

[pulsar nexus]

Yes, idk if you still need one but I can do it after class

[vapid pawn]

Can they make RTDX Switch 2 edition so we can get new challenge stages and mouse control scope shot

[tender kernel]

okay nice

[weary patrol]

Maybe I’m thinking too much like a spoiled Kirby fan with assuming we’ll get something next direct lol

[crude copper]

i would much rather them focus resources on new games

(also SA deserves switch 2 edition more)

[vapid pawn]

Scope Shot mogs new 3D game

I'm sorry

[dusty hedge]

I'm not ready for how II'll feel when a new mainline kirby game is announced. Rtdldx and star crossed world already had me like crying and shaking with excitement

[crude copper]

and that would be more air riders news

[weary patrol]

We really might be the best treated franchise with how often we get games haha

[crude copper]

[dire ledge]

if we do its an eshop title sorry

[crude copper]

( i actually want new air riders news)

[last fox]

To be honest

[weary patrol]

I like the eshop games a lot

[last fox]

SA NS2 can be cool, but I do think Dream Buffet with GameShare would do the game a huge service

[tight depot]

I'm eyeing a surprise Nintendo Today App update on the game sometime next month

[crude copper]

ngl dream buffet is a bit of a dead on arrival thing

[weary patrol]

Kirby battle royale deluxe edition for switch 2 with 100 players obviously

[crude copper]

like whats the point of trying to fix it

when air riders is on its way

[vapid pawn]

You can become fat in dream buffet tho

[crude copper]

i can play as dedede in air riders who is already fat

[last fox]

I still kinda like the idea of fixing games, even in games that really cannot be fully fixed

[dire ledge]

what if they make Dream Buffet free for people who have Riders or like NSO/NSO exp

[last fox]

but surely adding GameShare isn't asking that much

[weary patrol]

What if we start getting character reveals for air riders with crazy trailers like smash

[vapid pawn]

Yea it's fun

[dusty hedge]

Speaking of I love that you can find 25th anniversary concert footage on there today. I was not expecting to like the news app as much as I do but they post worthwhile stuff on there.

[craggy trench]

Rtdl DX switch 2 edition with added Scope Shot mouse controls tomorrow

[crude copper]

depends on if there is gonna be story mode because the reason why smash character reveals have crazy trailers is because this is where all cgi cutscene money go lol

[haughty nexus]

Oops late message also hoping air riders gets patches for like 2 years to bridge the 2 years but highly unlikely

[last fox]

Tbh RTDL Deluxe all it needs is GameShare, online minigames at the very least

[cosmic patio]

wait i didn't even see this got pinned 😭

[last fox]

Star Allies we may as well fix the localization while improving it for Switch 2

I'd actually replay it

[weary patrol]

I know it’s not likely at all because of that but I just think giving Rick a cool cinematic trailer would be really funny

[crude copper]

i agree

[thorn sleet]

I know scopes are different now but it sucks a little that we went from 3 games in 4 years to 2 games in 8

[craggy trench]

I'd replay KSA if its localization gets fixed but i doubt that would happen

Would be nice though

[crude copper]

also i think the next new revealed rider will be elfilin at this point. cross promotion with dlc gonna go crazy

[haughty nexus]

|| wait did Kirby unlock the title “Kirby of the stars” in English after freeing the starries, “children of the stars”? ||

[last fox]

TBH I am assuming Air Riders will not get updates post release

[dire ledge]

Ive warned people of HD game development. . .

[weary patrol]

Elfilin is absolutely a shoe in

[last fox]

that game is not Smash

[crude copper]

tbf the only reason 3ds duology could come out so closely to each other is because robobot borrowed a lot from triple deluxe

[last fox]

it's already insane the game exists at all

[crude copper]

and star allies was rushed and it shows

[tight depot]

Also the game is coming out pretty close to the end of the year. I wonder how much of a spotlight it'll get from Nintendo in general being one of the last games to come out in the calendar year of the Switch 2's release year

[weary patrol]

I think we’ll get confirmation Elfilin can fully use Elfilis powers if we see them in game

[crude copper]

i think its better if HAL takes time even if it we have to wait more :(

[dark sable]

I hope it's course based

[thorn sleet]

I’m counting rtdl-pr, not including SA

but yea SA was very rushed

[crude copper]

i assume also developing for 3ds was easier than for an hd console

[thorn sleet]

Look at the Wastes level in FL, there’s a small preview of that at least

[crude copper]

THO maybe im delusional but i feel like maybe developing for switch 2 is gonna be easier since you wont have to jump through hoops to make the game be well optimized lol.

[weary patrol]

I would rather them wait a long time for a new 3D title. I think we could see an interesting evolution by giving us other playable characters RTDL style with 3 others besides Kirby

[dark sable]

im down for sandbox games but this dlc reaffirmed my thoughts hal are really good at 3d linear levels so i want more of that

[crude copper]

this is how i want next 3d game to be

[tight depot]

With anything in life I'd rather someone/people take longer and longer to bring what they want to perfection than have to live with a rushed release
After a while any waiting becomes numb to me and I don't mind it in the slightest

[crude copper]

more of that please

level is still linear but there is stuff to explore and run around :)

[tight depot]

Elfilin is gonna hang around Bandana Waddle Dee and ask for training in the ways of the spear

[dark sable]

waste level is cool but imo the more "railroaded" levels are more fun

i still liked it

[weary patrol]

Using an ability like wheel in a bigger open area would be so fun

[dusty hedge]

Oh for sure. I thought I wasn't a really big fan of the style but it turns out mario 3d world is just mid . It's kind of crazy the difference in quality and detail between that and fl

[dire ledge]

I havent even considered ||him getting a spear 😭 dude. the spears are forged with things he ate. and the only thing he ate ever is a bunch of fast food or Chaos Elfilis's little light orb||

[crude copper]

there is room for both i feel

[dusty hedge]

Also this reminds me of when people were thinking fl was open world when the trailer dropped

[split pier]

Does anyone have the music from the EX true arena?

[haughty nexus]

They way kirby hides secrets in an open world would take 86555 years of my life

[dark sable]

just hope kirby doesn't jump on the "every 3d platformer is a sandbox now!!"

[weary patrol]

4 heroes theory in full effect

[crude copper]

i doubt it

i think at best we will have more levels like wastes

[last fox]

I don't think 3D World is mid tbh, but I already talked about it before: the problem with Mario platformers that aren't sandbox is that you notice the building blocks of the game too much

[dark sable]

ik, im just stating a preference

[weary patrol]

I don’t think they will
And I’d be disappointed too because that style doesn’t fit Kirby at all

[last fox]

you feel the level designers used some kind of Super Mario Maker for 2D/3D

[dire ledge]

sandbox can be cool but its not what id play Kirby for

[crude copper]

forgotten land is partially so good is because levels feel like actual places

[thorn sleet]

I think it’s worth for every series to at least try experimenting with it (like with Bananza) but i don’t think it fits for everything

[crude copper]

they feel immersive

even though they are built in a similar way to 3d world

[tight depot]

The original and Starry version of the stage are both massive and packed with stuff to do
They're probably the biggest rooms in the game with content to match it
(Technically there could be bigger "rooms" but they'd be scripted set pieces like rollar coasters or gliding and whatnot)

[dire ledge]

If they do open world i hope its full of combat and fights like how they did SCW ||Wastes that Count Time||

[weary patrol]

3D world has my favorite level design by my least favorite aesthetics so i completely get that. Lowkey if it integrated them like how FL did it it might be a 10/10 mario game

[last fox]

Kirby can do sandbox 3D in the future, but the way they will do it is only if they can make beginners comfortable

[dark sable]

i agree but part of the reason i don't korby to make the jump is bc 3d linear games are rare nowadays

even mario doesn't do it

[tight depot]

Kirby + Bowser's Fury

[dark sable]

lol

gorimondo's fury

[last fox]

what matters in Kirby is if beginners can play the game

[thorn sleet]

w/ new funky mode

[dusty hedge]

My thoughts exactly. I love how they blend the level design with the enviroment around it instead of just having it like.... float in the sky.

[last fox]

if they can figure out 3D sandbox for beginners, then it's possible

[dark sable]

that is very tru

[haughty nexus]

When you make a 3d openworld you kinda have to limit the scope since things are scales down compared to forgotten land where you visit one small place of like a massive continent

[weary patrol]

They’d need to beef up Kirby’s movement if they do bigger open levels anyways because even though he’s fast in FL he still moves kinda sluggish in bigger areas

[last fox]

HAL prioritizes fun

if Kirby needs to move faster to be fun, they'll do it

[dusty hedge]

I love that every screen has a central setpiece that the level is built around its just so good.

[weary patrol]

His movement is already good but I think giving him access to something like warpstar for faster movement (not flying from area to area) it would work

[tight depot]

There'd need to be a Mario Odyssey rolling move equivalent for Kirby to use to get around in super big areas

[weary patrol]

Or something similar

[crude copper]

making fast travel between points in the map easily available would be one such thing

honestly it can easily work since kirby has warp star

[thorn sleet]

What was everyone’s favorite new mouthful mode btw

I really liked ||gear||

[crude copper]

gear looks sick

[dark sable]

very valid take even as someone who loves 3d world😭

[dusty hedge]

Yeah gear was my favorite

[elder ice]

I think linear level design fits the series best

[tight depot]

Gear was absolutely my favorite

[shut pebble]

||I just listened to NEICHEL's Secret Song

When are we going to get a finished version and see what she looked like?
-# Before becoming the Lor's heart, possibly||

[haughty nexus]

Gear was super fun

[weary patrol]

Kirby could roll but I’d see them putting that behind an ability. Would need to be something you can use whenever

[elder ice]

I don’t feel the need of a open world sandbox kirby

[last fox]

To be honest though, in terms of aesthetic

[dark sable]

spring and gear are definitely the standouts

[tight depot]

Spoilers for one specific gear puzzle:

[weary patrol]

Gear was my favorite and I wish it had more levels

[elder ice]

I think a metroidvania fits kirby more

[shut pebble]

||Gear was silly
I loved it||

[last fox]

I don't believe I can ever be pleased with Mario when I have Kirby

[dusty hedge]

I'm afraid the new mouthful modes make most of the other one obsolete like why did we even have cone and vending machine

[elder ice]

Like imagine a 3d kirby metroidvania

[dusty hedge]

Spring and gear have such drastic effects on the level design like car did it's crazy

[dark sable]

i don't think the new ones made the old ones obsolete lol

they're very different

[last fox]

I still enjoy Mario games very much, and whatever next 3D Mario I'm sure I'm gonna love it (I seriously loved Mario Odyssey a lot)

[dusty hedge]

meanwhile cone is just like "Yeah uhhh break my cracked floors!!!"

[tight depot]

||There's a room with gear that also has a fuse to light and you have to climb all around the walls of a tower to make it to the canon in time. It was so awesome||

[last fox]

(I also loved Mario Wonder)

[dark sable]

wonder is peak

[last fox]

I'm easy to please with Mario games

[dark sable]

[rapid cloud]

one mission left

[dusty hedge]

||That's for sure the best bonus room in the whole series like it has so many mechanics going on at once and also the beautiful view at the top as a reward||

[last fox]

but I can still see the level designers using the same building blocks in Wonder.

even if Wonder really really really tried this time

[tight depot]

https://bsky.app/profile/kirbydiscovery.bsky.social/post/3lxilb6ohls23

Kirby Discoveries (@kirbydiscovery.bsky.social)

With some Mouthful Mode transformations, Bandana Waddle Dee rides on Kirby’s back. This wouldn’t really work with Gear Mouth, so Kirby holds Bandana Waddle Dee instead! It’s so cute! #Kirby

▶ Play video

Bluesky · Aug 28, 2025, 10:19 PM

[dark sable]

did u do the fight chaos bandee 20 times challenge yet

[rapid cloud]

[weary patrol]

Lord of Chaos: Chaos Bandee

[last fox]

I went from Mario to Kirby at the moment when Mario was just so mid aesthetically

now I admit they finally did something

[rapid cloud]

if anyone can help me in #1410236410564182097 I legit appreciate (you get a cookie)

[rancid badge]

-# idk where to put this

I just got this

Evil man

[tight depot]

If there was ONE more update I could request of Forgotten Land, it'd be having the ability to fight in the Arenas as just Bandana Waddle Dee

[haughty nexus]

|| use crash on furina ?||

[dusty hedge]

What was everyone's favorite level in the dlc. Mine was probably fallen star beach.

[weary patrol]

Unfortunately Mario as a series doesn’t have the same aesthetic priorities as Kirby so even in his better looking and feeling games they still show their building blocks too much 😵‍💫 where Kirby intentionally hides them especially in forgotten land

[elder ice]

What does kirby have to do with furina genshin impact /j

[last fox]

I have no idea what's my fav level in the DLC because I thought most of them were really darn good lol

[weary patrol]

I need to replay them a few times first to pick

[shut pebble]

||THAT'S SO CUTE WHAT?||

[tight depot]

The only Kirby specific thing you'd need to do in the Arena is have Kirby ||Mouthful Mode Chaos Elfilis. Which you could just spawn him in for that one moment then go back to Bandee||

[weary patrol]

Early impressions? I like the final level a lot. I like when stuff all comes together in a big challenge like that

[dusty hedge]

||True!! it was also really cool to get a new view of the city without it being engulfed in lava||

[weary patrol]

Locking spear behind multiplayer was diabolical

Because j wanna do boss rush with him but CAN’T

[tight depot]

Man it's been nice to talk about all this stuff. I had a lot of pent up energy thinking about all of this but obviously don't want to spoil anyone on the wider internet

[dusty hedge]

Sadly they just need SOMETHING to make being player 2 slightly worthwhile because they can't use mouthful mode or copy abilities for puzzles or any of the fun stuff

[odd tree]

Time for a single player co-op run

[dusty hedge]

My biggest gripe with fl is the multiplayer💔 . It's hard to ask people to play with me if they're not my 6 year old little brother because nobody wants to play boring mode. I will always offer to be bandana because I like seeing people enjoy the game but I wish it was like an even experience

[weary patrol]

Next game we will get to play as these characters solo again trust

That was my favorite part of Star Allies
The playable characters make it worthwhile

People give it heavy shit but Star Allies is my most revisited Kirby game for that reason alone

[dusty hedge]

oh no yeah star allies at least has a good deal of replayability especially thanks to the dream friend routes

[weary patrol]

It’s fun to speedrun
I think I’ve done like 10 runs as meta Knight alone lol it’s so fun

[tight depot]

Ultimate Cup ZEX spoilers:
|| I was not expecting the Gauntlet of Phantom Meta Knight, Dedede, Leongar and Morpho Knight to use different music. That was a nice surprise||

[split pier]

Anyone?🥺

[split pier]

Would you have the music?🥹I can't beat it😭

[tight depot]

||Hmmm. I could tell you the names of the songs. I think they're pulled straight from past he's as the titles in the song menu mentions the games they come from||

[vapid pawn]

Congrats Gigi

[rapid cloud]

all missions done

[tight depot]

||I've tried looking up the songs on YouTube under SCW and just get bombarded with videos about the final boss XP||

[neon bison]

🗨️
||neichel||

[rapid cloud]

the reward is cute (for getting all starries)

[winged pebble]

uh

[rapid cloud]

but is it mistranslated

[winged pebble]

||that's a new song so||

[vapid pawn]

||you mean the figure? :)||

[rapid cloud]

because (figure) ||IS THAT AN ALLUSION TO GK||

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334322

[neon bison]

[rapid cloud]

funnily enough ||I am pretty sure I joked about this pre-release 😭||

[neon bison]

BTW this should be tagged if it's the new stuff

[vapid pawn]

||NoA only forgo a word…strongest…||

[rapid cloud]

||"what if all we get about GK is a vague allusion that the starries once sealed him"||

[vapid pawn]

||ITS SO PEAK THO||

[winged pebble]

||really doesn't help that they said the starries can travel across space and time and then proceed to never travel across time in-game||

[split pier]

Would you have it?🤩

[crude copper]

||its mistranslated... because the reference to GK is even more obvious in japanese||

[rapid cloud]

||my people theory looking at japanese, what if his title was once "strongest warrior capable of destroying the galaxy" and it was shortned to "strongest warrior in the galaxy"||

[neon bison]

||"strongest enemy" -> "fiend"||

😭

[tight depot]

||The in-between music? Like the part where Elfilis is on the floor? Or is it another part you're talking about? Sorry there's just so many tunes and my mind was a buzz during the fight that I have a hard time pinning down when what song was playing||

[cosmic patio]

help i'm trying to find where they said this but i can't remember

[crude copper]

whoever translated dlc is on the ||galacta knight is a fraud agenda||

[rapid cloud]

anyway time to go gambling for 100%

I got 3600 starry coins

[tight depot]

|| Is there a place I can find the JP translation? ||

[dire ledge]

did you grab any rare stones just in case? i feel like theyre more gauranteed

[neon bison]

They are guaranteed yeah

[rapid cloud]

RHV made me spend them all last night 😭

[crude copper]

||i half joked, the only difference is that it specifies that said opponent is the "strongest" which is a word they always use in association with GK||

[neon bison]

Oh right lol I forgot about that

[cosmic patio]

I DIDN'T MEAN TO

[tight depot]

That's what I did. After I gambled enough I used my stockpiled rare stones to grab the last few I needed

[cosmic patio]

i didn't think you thought i meant a specific figure until way too late 😭😭

[rapid cloud]

you're fine LOL

[dire ledge]

when you 100% (you have to talk to astrodee to get 100%), you may need to reload the map to reload ||the Deedly Dees||

[rapid cloud]

figure ||funny elfilis brother figure||

[tight depot]

|| Ah I gotcha ||

[dire ledge]

my friend had this happen to them but it was a quick fix

they just went back to title screen and then just went back in

[split pier]

In this part and at the final boss of the arena if you don't mind😊

[rapid cloud]

funny 1 star figures

[cosmic patio]

scw spoiler out of context #86

[rapid cloud]

oh okay I got all of vol 2

1 from vol 1 left

pretty sure it's a 1 star lol

my last figure is ||beach ball||

LOL

[cosmic patio]

so you got the ||fishing bandana dee||

[rapid cloud]

yes

[cosmic patio]

my last one was ||anchor||

alright so you got all starries and all figures

[rapid cloud]

||BANDEE IN COMPLETE SCREEN YES BASED||

[tender kernel]

oh yeah btw looking at JP song titles, ||if it wasn't obvious, 'Champion Road of the Four Warriors' uses the usual 四天 for 'Four Warriors'|| lol

[tight depot]

|| Oh so like the locker room area? ||

[cosmic patio]

||four heroes of yore...||

[full sparrow]

||HUH??????? DUDE???? they are for sure setting up something right they must be||

[tender kernel]

||四天(王) stuff will never be consistent for real lmao||

[rapid cloud]

||MORE KIRBY OF THE STARS|| (100%)

[tender kernel]

||no more like Final Four, the HiAD bosses, etc.||

[dire ledge]

ok gigi

[cosmic patio]

||every group of four is the four heroes of yore ||

[tender kernel]

||check sound test :)||

[rapid cloud]

||are people guessing the game is hinting at a FL sequel or||

[dire ledge]

the thing that eeryone's been raving about, to find it, interact with ||The Deedly Dees|| and go to track ||148||

[rapid cloud]

oh ok

[cosmic patio]

gigi you're almost at the thing i was talking about yesterday

[tender kernel]

no last track

[cosmic patio]

||not specifically 148, just the final one||*

[rapid cloud]

I don't have that

[dire ledge]

reload the map

[cosmic patio]

did you talk to astro dee

[rapid cloud]

yes

max is ||146||

[cosmic patio]

yeah you have to reload the map

[dire ledge]

just reload the map

[cosmic patio]

by like going into kirby's house and back

[rapid cloud]

bad game!

[cosmic patio]

true!

[tender kernel]

||number is inconsistent because of HAL Room, should be 150 with all of them for reference||

[cosmic patio]

i feel bad for anyone who missed this lol

[tight depot]

Yeah I have ||149 tracks||

[rapid cloud]

HUH

[cosmic patio]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-shrek1-shrek-and-donkey-shrek-its-quiet-shrek-its-quiet-too-quiet-gif-26487755

oh nvm you found it

congratulations

[torpid locust]

[tender kernel]

||yeah okay unlock requirement is definitely for having all non-HAL songs then lol||

||or maybe it does just require a reload? not sure||

[dire ledge]

requires a reload

my friend didnt need to go to the Kirby house

they just went to title screen and went to ||the Deedly Dees|| for it

i dont htink they had the ||HAL room|| either

[cosmic patio]

i was just as speechless

cause i was half crying

[tight depot]

||I don't have the HAL room yet||

[cosmic patio]

😭

[tender kernel]

interesting

[rapid cloud]

100% ||OH THIS WAS THE FUNNY SONG THAT WAS IN THE ECHO THAT I DIDNT RECOGNIZE||

okay what was that

[cosmic patio]

it was peak

[rapid cloud]

100% ||I can't think if that means neichel is GK or kirby or what I would need to see the lyrics again are they pinned||

[tender kernel]

||you mean the HAL Room? yeah||

[rapid cloud]

100% ||me when white wings:||

[cosmic patio]

it's also ||the motif you didnt recognize in the hal room||

[rapid cloud]

ah

[winged pebble]

||i think it just implies she was dying lonely 😭||

||angel moment||

[cosmic patio]

some people think ||she's the lor now|| which i think is a bit of a sudden conclusion

[tender kernel]

||yes, but also here's what we have on WiKirby rn https://wikirby.com/wiki/Last_Song_(Incomplete)_-_NEICHEL's_Unfinished_Track||

[frank zenith]

oh gigi

[tight depot]

Ultimate Cup ZEX spoilers:
|| I CAN'T BELIEVE CHAOS ELFILIS USED THE BOUNCE CUTTERS OF WALLS TECHNIQUE! THAT'S BUZZSAW KIRBY'S TECHNIQUE XP||

[frank zenith]

100% ||listen to the song past the end||

[cosmic patio]

i think ||the song overall just parallels many different things from kirby without being as literal||

[tender kernel]

||tbh it does feel weird bit of it ties to Magolor or Lor though, plus there already being latter elsewhere, not really sure what to think of it all||

[rapid cloud]

WAIT HOLY FUCK

[pulsar nexus]

Me when I threw up the second I loaded SCW

Ughhhh

[rapid cloud]

100% || @neon bison YOU LITTLE||

(the react is his)

[tender kernel]

||yeah the funny Lor noises LMAO||

[pulsar nexus]

[neon bison]

[cosmic patio]

i dont think ||the lor references are weird considering the neichel songs played on the lor-like spaceships and this one was probably meant to as well||

[tender kernel]

||I mean yeah but it makes me just wonder||

[pulsar nexus]

|| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWXuZgCcgX8&ab_channel=おおいぬ||

||5 min||

ZEX speedrun spoiler ^

Ooinu my goat

[rapid cloud]

anyway I am freed

[pulsar nexus]

GIGI

WE NEED TO TALK—

[neon bison]

||isn't it an insane 100% unlock|| 😭

[pulsar nexus]

💥 💥 💥 💥 💥 💥

[neon bison]

||usually you just get a funny screen lol||

[rapid cloud]

I NEED TO EAT LUNCH SOON CAN IT BE AFTER

[pulsar nexus]

||btw did you noticed the Kirby house having 2 different song that plays randomly after SCW||

[pulsar nexus]

YES YES

I NEED TO UPDATE DREAM LAND DIRECTORY

SO TAKE UR TIME

[rapid cloud]

I do want to also see how coverage is

[frank zenith]

100% ||i cannot believe that the 100% completion reward for the entirety of forgotten land is that the lore now has a springtrap equivalent||

[pulsar nexus]

That’s not spoiler tagged :sob

(Not TANK)

[rapid cloud]

@dry raft hello, please spoiler tag your messages! you can repost but please spoiler tag

I still need to process this

[pulsar nexus]

I hope you can guess every moment I screamed

[vapid pawn]

||VS Springtrap||

[pulsar nexus]

Did you also see the pins?

[rapid cloud]

100% ||so I did see the spoiler of "neichel lor" literally all I saw, but I was confused still, but holy fuck the way it's revealed is worth it. I will believe this theory tbh||

NOT YET

LET ME SEE WIKIRBY FIRST

[pulsar nexus]

||Neichelor||

I need to link you to my rant later

I have like

50 page doc worth rant

/srs

[frank zenith]

100% ||the fact that this massive lore bomb is conveyed through a secret, in-universe unfinished song by said character is beyond insane to me||

[crude copper]

||lor is neichel theory is great because its giving us images like this||

|| https://bsky.app/profile/eeeeeeeeeeeeeeps.bsky.social/post/3lxkdvvn5l22j||

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeps (@eeeeeeeeeeeeeeps.bsky.social)

Kirby Star-Crossed World spoilers

Bluesky · Aug 29, 2025, 3:13 PM

[neon bison]

100% ||the song is a really cool way of revealing lore too||

[crude copper]

||i hope they will do more stuff like this||

[neon bison]

Like it's way cooler presentation than just ||a random blurb||

[frank zenith]

ALSO 100% ||the song is a banger||

[rapid cloud]

100% ||honestly that's my favorite part||

[honest hamlet]

100% ig? ||What on earth is going on with Neichel and stuff I didn't even properly know who she was||

[crude copper]

100% ||I THINK one of the main reasons lore reveals in this dlc hit harder is because they arent just all contained to the figurines flavor text but also can be inferred via environmental storytelling, some character dialogue and even song lyrics. they need to keep this up||

||because its genuinely evolving storytelling chops of this series imo||

[pulsar nexus]

Just made up a crack theory, only read with ZERO seriousness ||Neichel was able to dream of the meteor stuff for her lyrics because of the prototype fountain of dreams/ starrod. She was used as a test for them. Her unfinished song was a prophecy for the future destiny where she’ll meet Magolor, which was something she dreamed, where she’ll met Magolor. Green Tree Memories were also written by her, but sung by someone else because her lyrics made it into Dream Kingdom in some way, shape or form||

[honest hamlet]

||I heard Springtrap and came running||

[tight depot]

Question about lore and Lor
||There's a connection to the Lor Starcutter? What's the connection and where does it happen exactly?||

[frank zenith]

100% ||to my knowledge, neichel is the in-universe pop star who sung forgotten land's vocal songs, who had a prophetic vision during the time of the ancients about void coming and wrote it into a song (twinkling star shower), convincing the ancients to leave the planet with her music as a means to soothe them in their escape||

||neichel herself chose to stay on the planet, and the secret 100% song implies that she died and eventually either became the lor starcutter's consciousness (springtrap) or had an ai version of her consciousness put into it by the ancients later on||

[crude copper]

||the last song neichel wrote that you unlock by getting 100%, there are the clues||

[crude copper]

fairly succinct version of the theory tho

[arctic copper]

What's the best stage to grind coins
Still meed a lot of volume 2 figures

[frank zenith]

yeah, missing a lot of nuance

[tender kernel]

||for Green Tree Memories stuff, she's seemingly another boku user at least (might be the first confirmed woman character we have that uses that now that I think about it?)...still not sure if it's just for Welcome to the New World or not but either way||

[frank zenith]

i just wanted to summarize it

[crude copper]

yeah but it gets the job done

[thorn sleet]

||Lorlor problematic?? (1 million year age gap)||

[frank zenith]

what's the lore behind ||green tree memories||?

[tight depot]

||I've been meaning to listen to that again. I'll need to study the lyrics carefully this time||

[dry raft]

My bad yall

[weary patrol]

Do you think Magolor invites Kirby over to hang out on the lor post forgotten land and is like “I found some old songs on this thing do you wanna hear” and starts playing shit like New World that completely freaks Kirby out

[pulsar nexus]

||The beeping noise you hear time to time in some of the song like the unfinished song by Neichel and ZEX final final boss rest area. The unfinished song lyrics referencing Magolor, and there’s also a prototype ship you can find pre-final boss of SCW story mode and available as figure for volume 2 which resembles the top windowed part of Lor Starcutter||

[tight depot]

|| Nah New World is Kirby's Jam ||

[cosmic patio]

might just be there because it's ||another lyrical song||

[crude copper]

bro turns on welcome to the new world thinking it will blow kirby's mind only kirby is like. oh i heard it before :)

[tender kernel]

we weren't talking about ||HAL Room||

[cosmic patio]

oh

[tight depot]

Actually imagine Kirby gets a recording of that song and plays it all the time to the point where Dedede low-key gets annoyed by how much Kirby repeats ut😝

[pulsar nexus]

||It is very common for a music lyrics to use “Boku” because even if the singer is a female, the song could be about a guy singing, so unfortunately we can’t pinpoint if she uses “boku” irl as well||

[cursive forum]

||Congrats on finding Neichel’s last song!||

[weary patrol]

Kirby casually dropping to Magolor that he’s been to the ancient’s homeworld would be funny

[tender kernel]

||ah okay, I was wondering if it was that but still||

[crude copper]

magolor would literally go feral

and without the beast virus too!

[vapid pawn]

Beast Virus

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid4-mgs4-solid-snake-old-snake-becoming-old-gif-24179307

[frank zenith]

the image of 100% ||magolor not realizing that his ship is literally an ancient until kirby spells it out for him||

[vapid pawn]

Waddle Dees become Awoofys from Beast Virus guys

Trust

[crude copper]

im still so happy it wasnt true

[cosmic patio]

watching everyone suddenly completely believe in a theory i learned about less than a day ago that i think does not work whatsoever sure is interesting

[vapid pawn]

Their fate in the game's still fucked up tho at least LOL

[crude copper]

not gonna say worst theory of all time i just hated the fact that we couldnt get new regular enemies lol

[tight depot]

|| HOLY CANOLI! The ships do look similar in that spot
I was too busy deciphering the text on it to think about it looking like anything else ||

[frank zenith]

what things do you think this theory lacks in?

[split pier]

Yep!

[weary patrol]

What if it was actually a borb virus and all the waddle dees are ancients evolved to be tiny creatures (JOKING)

[vapid pawn]

What do you think doesn't work about it?

[crude copper]

dedede was the right person to wear master crown then.... actually no

scary thought

[cosmic patio]

||any explanation for why neichel would become the lor, any explanation for HOW neichel could even become the lor (especially considering she stayed in the forgotten land), any evidence that the song is implying she actually becomes the lor instead of just being a song that everyone who used the lor could relate to, etc.||

[tender kernel]

||anyway there's like 3 (now 4?) possible perspectives it could be from (Kirby, Magolor, BWD, maybe Neichel) and it's hell to summarize everything; not sure what all you want to know to really say lol||

[tender kernel]

||I mean, they could have based the AI heart on her (and others did stay behind)||

[crude copper]

people literally provided multiple explanations for multiple points in this theory my man

[cosmic patio]

could, but why would

[crude copper]

you just arent paying attention

[cosmic patio]

rude?

[crude copper]

because she was a beloved idol whose song was literally used to inspire people?

[vapid pawn]

||She was also a prophet so keeping an AI of her would be useful lol||

[austere wharf]

||awwww i hope we get to see all these stupid fellows again one day||

[vapid pawn]

||plus her songs are bangers||

[crude copper]

||also she had prophetic powers idk id like her brain as ai of my spaceship too||

[tender kernel]

||yeah and to their perspectives, saved their lives||

[neon bison]

it's really funny that ||the dream discoveries tour is in the waddle dee playlist on nintendo music||

[austere wharf]

||i mean the way i saw it was
she acted as guidance & the ship's ai does the same no?||

[crude copper]

WHAT

LMAO

someone is on that app has a sick sense of humor

[weary patrol]

||Kinda makes it really cool that she met Kirby in the first place since Kirby was the one to set the Forgotten Land free||

[austere wharf]

that's so mean 😭

[weary patrol]

Oh that’s messed up LMFAO

[dire ledge]

HELLO????????????

[weary patrol]

Wait is there an Elfilis one

[crude copper]

also, sorry

[dire ledge]

does it have the narration

or is it just the bgm

if it has the narration it would be top tier funny

[cursive forum]

That’s not cool man…

[neon bison]

it's specifically the version with japanese voiceover

[tight depot]

The narration is in Japanese

[pulsar nexus]

||interesting fact, is LONG time ago, like historically, pre world war in Japan, it was common for woman to use “boku” as first person pronouns. The reason why “watashi” became more common for woman is because during world war era, the school system started to taught that woman had to use “watashi” because watashi is used as formal or polite way. So unironically, maybe there’s a chance that Neichel could be using “boku” normally as well because she’s from the era of long time ago. Just an interesting perspective to think about||

[torpid locust]

|| mistake or intentional||

[weary patrol]

Shame there’s not an Elfilis one because that would also absolutely be in there LMFAO

[frank zenith]

||i think that's the big purposefully vague plot hole in this whole thing, because even if neichel wasn't the lor, it still wouldn't explain the lor's unusual sentience and direct foreshadowing to magolor that occurs in the song||

||so like, there's no evidence of why it could have happened right now, but it's explicitly a place where the lore can expand and continue in the future||

[tender kernel]

||but really it's also just lot of the song is possibly from her perspective so uh what the song says is really weird otherwise lmao||

[rapid cloud]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT????????????????????????

[dire ledge]

IT INCLUDES THE NARRATION THIS IS SO

god anyone got the "are you laughing bro thats disrespectful" copy pasta

[crude copper]

its too specific to be unintentional

[tender kernel]

||yeah this||

[crude copper]

also why are we spoilering stuff about the game that came out 3 years ago

this is just a playlist for FL ost 😭

lets save spoiler tags for dlc

[dire ledge]

gigi is going through time and travelling our posts

[rapid cloud]

anyway I need to eat 😭

[tender kernel]

||if it was like, to future ancients stuff or games in general I feel like it'd be more of everything and not have like....ticket of lies||

||or the Lor noises||

[cosmic patio]

||galactic nova is sentient, the master crown is sentient, the dimension mirror basically created a sentient being, i really don't see why the lor being sentient would have any other explanation while all the others don't||

[dire ledge]

oh yeah

here, for you when you return @rapid cloud (100% spoilers)

[pulsar nexus]

||I need Lor and Master Crown to show up to my wedding||

[crude copper]

||if you are marrying magolor then he will run away with both||

[tight depot]

|| Well the tracks name is To The Stage of Stardom ||

[pulsar nexus]

||I would never marry Magolor||

[weary patrol]

||why can’t it have one though? I also don’t see why it’s an issue||

[crude copper]

||are you sure||

[dire ledge]

is it muted

[pulsar nexus]

UHHHHHHHHH

KLU DONT DO THIS TO ME

[vapid pawn]

Yea unfortunately

[craggy trench]

Whoever did this is sick and twisted in the head

[cursive forum]

||THE LOR IS MINE 😡 ||

[austere wharf]

oh that's beautiful

[cosmic patio]

didn't say that

[thorn sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-invincible-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-mark-grayson-nolan-grayson-gif-6480547052217762637

[tender kernel]

||or the いつか叶う or the 赤い果実 or the 町 (in a song talking about space-time stuff, no less)||

[split pier]

Could you share it?🥺🙏🏻

[coral falcon]

||I think because unlike the others, Lor's sentience is treated as a mystery. Like "is it sentient? Maybe..."||

[frank zenith]

||isn't nova not sentient? and we know that the master crown is a dark matter-adjacent artifact||

[vapid pawn]

||We also have an explanation for Dark Mind and Master Crown's sentience||

[cosmic patio]

||saying "we know that _" implies that that is something we definitively know and not just another theory with not much to support it or much reason to exist||

[frank zenith]

there's also the fact that 100% ||magolor eventually ended up creating a theme park, which is another big magolor/neichel parallel||

[frank zenith]

that's entirely fair

[crude copper]

||at least in the novelization it was made unambigious that lor has soul, take that as you will lol||

[cursive forum]

||Imagine, Parallel Neicehl…||

[dire ledge]

yeah im treating the theories as theories rn but im also on the side of "theories are valid to have"

[cosmic patio]

||and also like. even if the lor ai is based on neichel, it still wouldn't be neichel, since the real neichel died in the forgotten land||

[weary patrol]

Entirely off topic but I just realized ur pfp is awesome fucking tien edit 😭😭😭

[crude copper]

yeah its like. unconfirmed. its an implication at best. but i really like it and i definitely think that it MEANS something

yknow

like even if it doesnt mean the exact thing we have in mind

[vapid pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/tien-awesome-fkin-tien-shinhan-cool-tien-edit-gif-7171693473668315713

My VC join sound is also the song

LOL

[tender kernel]

||and possibly the AI 次第 too(?)||

[pulsar nexus]

I have the music, it’s the first embed and second link #1408842700488441949 message
#1408842700488441949 message

[weary patrol]

Goes hard

[paper slate]

yukkuri73#0 - #LEAKS for Star-Crossed World (and FL Switch 2)

@mossy gust here you go

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Quoted by yukkuri73#0 • [388838595429138442] · Aug 28, 2025, 7:16 PM

[dire ledge]

trust me, we specificaly have already considered the opposite but are compelled by the ||evidence that Last Song (Incomplete) has put down||

[cosmic patio]

yeah it's a totally fine theory but i don't really like it when everyone immediately acts like it's just something unambiguously true
obviously not literally everyone, nor everyone here, and obviously a lot are jokes, but i always still feel iffy about that

[tender kernel]

||something can be something but also not something at the same time welcome to Kirby lore||

[cosmic patio]

just in general

[dire ledge]

especially since its full of ||nonstop reference after reference||

[crude copper]

well i mean

[dire ledge]

you cannot control others unfort

[crude copper]

yeah

[tender kernel]

I mean we never said that much lol

[crude copper]

there are plenty of kirby theories i personally dislike but what can i do

[tender kernel]

we're just saying stuff is sus af

[cosmic patio]

(and also i don't really like ||character A = character B|| theories in general)

[austere wharf]

oh same

[vapid pawn]

Necrodeus made the Sus Stones

[dire ledge]

regardless if you think that, these ||two concepts are now linked no matter what||

[weary patrol]

I don’t even necessarily believe it I just think it’s moreso funny for certain jokes lol

[dire ledge]

some people just interpret it as ||Neichel is the Lor||

[crude copper]

while it is dumb in hindsight i do feel like the game simply didnt convey well enough that sectonia disliked the sun

[vapid pawn]

Agreed

[cosmic patio]

yeah obviously the concepts of ||neichel (as well as the new world's civilization as a whole) and the lor|| are linked

[vapid pawn]

Only implication is like

[weary patrol]

Like the necrodeus one is so stupid it wraps around to being funny

[vapid pawn]

Her being tied to the moon

LOL

[crude copper]

yeah

basically

[tight depot]

I try to have an open mind about theories whether I believe in a given one or not

[coral falcon]

||Yeah this is like the 3rd time I've seen this kind of conversation. Your concerns are definitely valid especially with the way the fandom treats canon but I think it'll be fine||

[cosmic patio]

which i think is genuinely the coolest thing they've done since like

well i would say since shopkeeper magolor = rtdl magolor but that was secretly confirmed much earlier

[tight depot]

I remember hearing a theory the Galacta Knight was Kirby from the future

[frank zenith]

i feel like in this case, 100% ||there's enough direct ties and parallels to where the theory, while not being confirmed, can be seen as a soft truth, like there's some undeniable connection there||

[tender kernel]

you say that but people debated the latter even with evidence before Epilogue

[cosmic patio]

i just hope i won't see 99% of the fandom treat this theory as fact and base every single conversation off of it like they did with kirby = void 😭

[frank zenith]

it ain't like fnaf where you can never truly believe the plot hints the game throws at you

[pulsar nexus]

Magolor = Void

This is facts

I am one of Kumazaki’s braincell

[craggy trench]

Brobo = Void

[tender kernel]

I know because I had to deal with these people LMAO

[dire ledge]

you cannot control others

[craggy trench]

Bring back Brobo Block Ball

[pulsar nexus]

Brobo Soul

[cosmic patio]

if magolor's void, and void is void, then WHO'S DRIVING THE CAR?

[dire ledge]

we still have people who think Kirby and MK are brothers or are related

we will never escape misconception

we can only really wait for more evidence

[pulsar nexus]

That’s Void
He’s void
They’re void
She’s void
Everyone is VOID

[cosmic patio]

uhhh yes i can

go go gadget beast virus!

[weary patrol]

I’ve seen theories that Gooey was the original dark matter swordsman too and that one is so absurd that it wraps around to being very funny

[vapid pawn]

I mean what's wrong with thinking MK and Kirby have a vague relation lol
Kumazaki mentioned it in Star Allies era too

[cosmic patio]

what 😭

[tender kernel]

tbf they are probably the same species (or at least originally intended to be)

[tight depot]

Ones like that feel a bit too cooky because it takes a character who's stated to be from the past who apparently was from the future but time warped back and stuff happened and apparently that all ties around to a character we have in the present.
That's a a whole circle of confusion, but at the same time I won't discount people for thinking it could be the case if they wanna

[vapid pawn]

I don't think they're brothers tho

[tender kernel]

yeah not that far lol

[dire ledge]

i dont doubt theyre similar and related im specifically saying brothers

[cosmic patio]

that just isn't even possible since gooey is in dream land 2 and dl2 dark matter is directly confirmed to be dl3 dark matter

[coral falcon]

Most accurate answer be like

[weary patrol]

It’s blatantly not true but the fact I’ve seen people argue it before is so baffling

[vapid pawn]

Fair!

[dire ledge]

somne would go as far as saying MK is the dad

[weary patrol]

EXACTLY 😭

[dire ledge]

which like. the dynamic can exist but they mean like

Actual Dad

[tight depot]

I feel confident MK and Kirby are a similar species but definitely not brothers

[vapid pawn]

He does give candy…

LOL

[pulsar nexus]

MK (Morpho or Meta) /j

[cosmic patio]

anyway so ||why does gnarly meter elfilis have like multiple explicit void references||

[tight depot]

Meta K

[dire ledge]

we dont fucking know

[pulsar nexus]

Met a knight

[vapid pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-idk-dexter-innocent-gif-10412116

[dire ledge]

we just know that ||They parallel Void Termina's event in KSA||

[weary patrol]

I’ll be honest I don’t fully buy that MK and Kirby are even the same species due to meta knight having hands 😵‍💫

[dire ledge]

where theyre a ||Meteor Shower of Dark and Light||

[vapid pawn]

||I have no idea what yo make of the orb form||

[pulsar nexus]

||Kumazaki: I think it’s cool||

[craggy trench]

||found a cool orb in the galaxy and put it on his head||

[cosmic patio]

||fecto elfilis was always kinda similar with the flying axe over the ground attack thing and the music sounding vaguely like star-conquering traveler sometimes
but meteonelfilis just straight up has a form that has the same void pattern as void and that thing in the magolor arena and part of his music is also just straight up the song of supplication motif||

(final boss)

[pulsar nexus]

||O-R-B-E-D||

[dire ledge]

the what in the ||magolor epilogue arena||?

[tender kernel]

||some of that stuff overlaps with Elfilis in general, like the Core existing, and the pattern of Antares and crystal floors||

[cosmic patio]

||both also absorb stuff to get power
which is kinda like kirby
but also kinda like sectonia
and meteonelfilis also has a flower form kinda like sectonia
like what is up with that||

[tender kernel]

||so not really sure what to make of it||

[pulsar nexus]

||it is a cool pattern, let’s be fair ||

[cosmic patio]

whoops i meant ||magolor arena||

[dire ledge]

I don't think ||The Sectonia referen ce is that strong tbqh||

[tender kernel]

||mostly want to wait and see what a guidebook says about it (and if they straight up call it a 'Core' or not)||

[dire ledge]

Yes its the ||same shape and it has patterns but. thats literally so many things||

[tight depot]

|| I just wanna know how all this ties into the Mario Galaxy lore with Kirby now having his own Luma's||

||Also. The starry's kinda give me Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope vibes 😝||

[dire ledge]

You cannot quantify ||Star Shape as direct reference||

[cosmic patio]

i mean i don't really think this couldn't at least have been considered as an intentional reference

[dire ledge]

but you CAN quantify ||Void Pattern as direct reference||

[weary patrol]

||also was listening to settling a score and I swear There’s a piano version of GK’s guitar lick in there as well as possibly his theme being present in that one??? No clue what that means especially with GK’s theme being present in Genwel’s||

[dire ledge]

stars are just everywhere and everything

[pulsar nexus]

||I THOUGHT THAT SAID MARIO + RABIES SPARKS OF HOPE 😭 😭 ||

[dire ledge]

I still don't think its that similar unfort

WAIT

WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE

[cosmic patio]

[last fox]

question about the japanese fanbase

[tight depot]

|| Rabbid Mario needs to get his shots💉😜 ||

[dire ledge]

Oh

[last fox]

how are they reacting to this

[dire ledge]

its just the ears

[last fox]

are they just as crazy as here

lol

[pulsar nexus]

||return of beast virus||

[dire ledge]

iw as gonna mention ||why is there red line eiether in front or behind them|| but its actually jsut ||the ears||

anyway i still dont think theyre that similar

[pulsar nexus]

||Welcome back Dark Nebula||

[craggy trench]

||this is probably a sectonia reference but i think its funnier to imagine it as a dark nebula reference ||

[dire ledge]

Like especially ||since the use the heart motif all the time but they dont use it here? nah I think they just wanted a star shape||

[frank zenith]

i kind of feel that (theory) ||the elfilis species might not be pure void/dark matter, but they could just be infused with the dark matter element, like how starries seem to be born from dream matter? it'd explain the sectonia parallel (she wasn't related to dark matter, but ended up with dark matter elements anyways)||

[weary patrol]

How does this all tie into Kirby’s Tilt and Tumblr though

[last fox]

Tilt and Tumblr

[tight depot]

||It's crazy how many implications can be derived from just the designs of these bosses have||

[weary patrol]

And Dedede’s sweet lightning powers

[dire ledge]

like ||Meteonelflilis is literally a heart sahped meteor and yet its not a motif he uses||

[weary patrol]

A 2nd catastrophic typo has hit my Kirby messages in this server

[pulsar nexus]

Tilt and Tumblr 😭 😭 😭

[dire ledge]

I don't think theyre that similar because if it was intended visually there'd be a semblance of ||Heart shapes|| anywhere

But its very ||we want a pointy star|| like even the ||Curves dont make heart shapes||

[arctic copper]

?
And i'll try doing zex without upgrades now too

[vapid pawn]

Tilt

[cosmic patio]

final boss meme

[coral falcon]

||Yeah I think the theory that dark matter substance imbues whatever it affects with dark matter traits makes sense||

[last fox]

100% ||okay why do I have 150 songs and not 148||

[dire ledge]

like if it was really based on ||Sectonia|| I feel like these lines would ||form hearts|| but they dont ||theyre specifically antlers and horns||

[dire ledge]

you have the ||HAL room music|| i think

[last fox]

100% ||you guys have Tilt & Roll remix?||

[winged pebble]

||i mean its a remix but not of tilt & roll||

||its for it though||

[pulsar nexus]

||tilt n roll remix shows up even if you never listened to it||

[empty osprey]

||yes i also have 150||

[weary patrol]

Do we think ||green tree memories being the HAL room song implies Neichel also wrote that one or is this a stretch too||

[winged pebble]

||how do you even unlock that relative to the DLC||

[tight depot]

|| Crossing Wondaria and Crystal Beast Pack gave me 488 and 631 Starry coins respectively as the 2 highest starry coin totals per a single stage ||

[coral falcon]

||Obviously I think the inner eye of the ball form is based on the Starries as well, which if they really are dream matter beings then it would make sense for the star/meteor (aka shooting stars) iconography going on with the boss fight as well. That said, still don't get how we get the void lines on it though. Very interesting||

[cosmic patio]

it is right?

[last fox]

||then I wonder about why I have 1 additional song if HAL Room counts||

[weary patrol]

Because the thought is harmless about that I feel. Lowkey would be cool if true but I’m not clamoring for it to be

[winged pebble]

||its a remix of hungry pink puffball||

[dire ledge]

maybe it just adds it regardless

[arctic copper]

||thanks||

[cosmic patio]

oh right i forgot i wanted to ask if anyone knew where this was said because i forgor

[crude copper]

i said this before and i will say this again. if mk and kirby are somehow not related at all mk getting unmasked is a pointless reveal and there is no mystery to MK's identity whatsoever

so, uh

[winged pebble]

i don't think it was said anywhere like that

[crude copper]

i don't think them being unrelated is in the cards

[arctic copper]

||does that one waddle dee that takes rare stones still work for the dlc figures? That should be quicker||

[crude copper]

but we are never getting answers on what their relation is

[cosmic patio]

oh wait you're right it is
how did i not notice that 😭

[dire ledge]

yes it does

[empty osprey]

Yes

[cosmic patio]

i thought it was
otherwise idk how i'd come to that conclusion

[weary patrol]

Unless MK stops with the mysterious act and gives us answers we aren’t getting anything

[crude copper]

||imo its just them referencing all main vocal songs series had up to this point||

[analog sequoia]

UCZEX Spoilers ||chaos elfilis summoning two giant shadow versions of himself was pretty cool and unexpected, do wish that it appeared much earlier in the fight though||

[crude copper]

i mean if im gonna be real i doubt MK himself knows anything

[winged pebble]

||perhaps it would have been more obvious if they didn't translate Festival directly and translated it as Buffet or whatever||

[cosmic patio]

true

ELFILIN STOP TALKING ABOUT THAT DANG PRESENT CODE

[pulsar nexus]

Just recheck all the codes

[weary patrol]

Elfilin you can fly just go and read it then TELL IT TO ME

[pulsar nexus]

Honestly it’s sad playing SCW without Elfilin

It doesn’t feel right

It’s funny but I kinda miss the funny “heyyyyy” and laughing voice

[weary patrol]

I don’t like that you can beat it without elfilin

Supposedly

[dire ledge]

oh right

yukkuri im having drawing tablet pen problems

so i might have to draw manager magolor soul later

[pulsar nexus]

👄

I need to check the ||Elfilin dialogue first in Japanese||

[dire ledge]

you have the craziest emojis

[rancid badge]

Nothing never feels right without the child

https://tenor.com/view/elfilin-kirby-forgotten-land-kirby-and-the-forgotten-land-laugh-happy-gif-25307759

[odd tree]

Welcome to my life after I joined the community post Star Allies

[rancid badge]

OUGUGHH I LOVE YOU ELFILIN

[pulsar nexus]

me and my collection of thousands of Kirby emote

[rancid badge]

SWEET LITTLE BABY

[glossy cedar]

i HATE elfilin

[rancid badge]

WDYMMMMMM

[tight depot]

|| HE CAN DO THAT?!? ||

[weary patrol]

I’m neutral to elfilin

[pulsar nexus]

I used to dislike Elfilin (not negatively, just wasn’t a biggest fan) before playing SCW but now I like him. I kinda grew on him more now. I feel bad I give away so many of Elfilin merch from 2022-2025

[split pier]

Would you know the names in english? Hehe

[analog sequoia]

||yeah||

[tight depot]

||I was so desperate not to die again I couldn't hold back and had to win as fast as I could and never saw this||

[rancid badge]

I want elfilin merch so bad😭

[pulsar nexus]

||1: To the Stage of Stardom 2: Eternally Stirring Fa-lu-wa-a Song||

I have so many duplicates of Elfilin merch

[cosmic patio]

i'm going crazy. i swear i read this somewhere. i really don't know why i would say this in this way if it wasn't just basically confirmed

[pulsar nexus]

Because he’s lined up with Magolor often

[arctic copper]

Figures, final boss and zex
||The zex and meteonelfiliss figures suck
They don't have a support, they just float ||

[glossy cedar]

HE STINKS!!!!!!!!!!
-# (when he sacrificed himself at the end of katfl i screamed “OH MY GOD NOOO” and was really sad

[pulsar nexus]

And I MASS purchase for Magolor

And end up with bunch of Elfilin

[rancid badge]

-# dawg I started crying when they sacrificed themselves thinking he was dead😭

-# seeing kirby cry too...

[glossy cedar]

WHEN ARE WE GETTING GALACTA MERCH

[glossy cedar]

-# THAT WAS SO SAD

[cosmic patio]

oh wow they do
what 😭

[wide wind]

not me buying certain merch specifically for elfilin...

[rancid badge]

-# FORGOTTEN LAND IS THE FIRST GAME EVER FOR KIRBY TO ACTUALLY CRY ABOUT SOMEONE

[wide wind]

there's a certain recent stationery design that features him and I've bought so many things from it

[cosmic patio]

wait no
||a tiny bit of elfilis's wing-ear-thing is attached to meteonelfilis's wing-ear-thing
not a very good support but at least it's still connected||

||which is the case for some figures in the og game too||

[weary patrol]

||I noticed that too but that’s absolutely not enough to hold a figurine together 😭||

[cosmic patio]

yeah

[last fox]

anyway I did ZEX again, to show it to my brother who isn't planning to do the DLC

he found the final bosses cool

[pulsar nexus]

I’m trying out the new SCW menu in Kirby Cafe next month but Elfilin…. Ate them while listening to Roche Limits Kirby Cafe arrangements

[last fox]

you ate Elfilin during Roche Limit

[pulsar nexus]

Yes

[rancid badge]

LUCCKKYYY

[pulsar nexus]

The Elfilin cake is SO good

[rancid badge]

I wanna go there one day..

[pulsar nexus]

I can’t wait to try the Carby cake SCW ver and the drink

[rancid badge]

What flavor?

[last fox]

I wanted to respond with a joke but I couldn't come up with any

[pulsar nexus]

It looks good

[last fox]

I'm just jealous

[pulsar nexus]

It’s like ramune

[rancid badge]

Oh

I think I had that before

[wide wind]

i wish i could eat it... ramune flavor sounds yummy

[rancid badge]

I can't recall though

[crude copper]

dedede plush in the background spotted...

i think i have a specific pattern recognition at this point

[last fox]

only a few more years of experience before getting Yukkuri's Magolor pattern recognition

(I'm not even close)

[pulsar nexus]

Shoot I reminded myself I need to get ready to post both FL novel translation

[last fox]

(for real though am I annoying with that kind of joke Yukkuri)

[pulsar nexus]

Not at all!

Ur fine

[crude copper]

i think i can recognize his sillhouete frame one but i doubt i can scream like yukkuri

[last fox]

Just wanted to make sure I don't accidentally go too far

[pulsar nexus]

[cosmic patio]

SCREAM

[last fox]

I'm supposed to be a Magolor fan

I have no choice but to settle for #1 Pink Magolor fan

[pulsar nexus]

Anyone can be a fan, it doesn’t matter if someone has more merch, drew more, talk about him more, know about lore the most, Magolor fan is Magolor fan

And we know our biggest Magolor fan is Kumazaki himself

[cosmic patio]

🪭

[last fox]

(yes don't worry I know 🙂 I'm just joking around about it )

[pulsar nexus]

Okay good lol I’m always worried when people talk about stuff like these with any character, really

[last fox]

I'm not this serious about it

I just have two Magolor merch...

[odd tree]

I've seen people who are though it's scary

[last fox]

It's not like I don't want more

[vapid pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/lr-str-goku-kaioken-battle-against-limits-power-doubling-skill-kaioken-attack-4x-kaioken-kamehameha-gif-16702765723690663714

[last fox]

I just don't have the space

[pulsar nexus]

Yeah like when someone threatened me over Magolor