LEAKS for Star-Crossed World (and FL Switch 2)

[pulsar nexus]

||I think it was a great way to conclude the saga with Elfilis||

[lapis terrace]

||i mean? it was already concluded with ultimate cup z, no? the starries didnt really explain much more about them. idk i really really dont want to be pessimistic because it was a really fun dlc. i think my pride is just a lil hurt :)||

[twilit mural]

|| this is kind of what im thinking ||

|| maybe its just cause we weaken him enough to reseal him but i feel like it being a tactic to protect himself would be pretty neat too ||

[crude copper]

||go for more figurines if you want more closure, there's some cool lore stuff to find||

[lapis terrace]

||its been 10 minutes and im already over all the gk slander leave my man alone YES im pissed ||

[crude copper]

||Well, HAL sure did leave him alone ||

[pulsar nexus]

||those figurines really concluded the whole story so perfectly lol||

[crude copper]

Agreed

[lapis terrace]

theyre so EXPENSIVE though

like christ

[crude copper]

Astronomer Waddle Dee's greedy ass

[pulsar nexus]

||I just grind by entering and leaving stages because HAL room gives decent amount to grind in few mins||

||The coins you collected stays even after leaving the stage, so once you find a good grinding spot in early part of specific stage, you can just keep reentering. For me I just did with HAL room||

[lapis terrace]

||you found the hal room already||

[pulsar nexus]

||I was one of the first person on Internet to find it yeah lol||

[lapis terrace]

wait where is it

[pulsar nexus]

Check pin

||I have the video and explanation posted||

#1408842700488441949 message

[paper slate]

yukkuri73#0 - #LEAKS for Star-Crossed World (and FL Switch 2)

||How to get HAL Room: This is from the first stage of the level 5. Get a spring mouth, and than destroy the crystal with the starry coins at the very very end near the warp star before going to the next area. Than go backward, there will be a trail of starry coins falling, and once you head back to the very beginning of the stage, you'll be able to find the room as the coin guides you. The song that plays in the HAL room is a remix of songs with lyrics, starting off with Green Tree Memories||

Attachment

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1408842700488441949/1410434054276255915/SPOILER_HAL_Room_SCW.mp4?ex=68b10093&is=68afaf13&hm=cf11bf2814d5a11c35dbfbf326743d482ba90c1cc9b2f53f120f30855ad949b3&

Quoted by yukkuri73#0 • [388838595429138442] · Aug 28, 2025, 1:21 AM

[harsh knot]

||The Kanji 新 and 神 both pronounce as Shin, turning "new species" into "god-like species", so Species Born of Chaos become Lord of Chaos.||

[indigo mulch]

Does the ||Hammer Glitch still work?||

[runic moat]

||Praying for cover soon, either vocaloid or live||

[runic moat]

||Feels like a surprising common wordplay ngl, notably with Hideaki Anno's Shin movies||

||there it's rendered in katakana so it can be either meaning||

[pulsar nexus]

No

[runic moat]

Also I can't help but pray at some point we'll get vocal themes within the final boss itself

PSO2 likes to do that to amazing effect

[crude copper]

If Sonic does that on the regular so should Kirby

||im ngl the sparkling star showers should have played during the final phase of genwel||

[harsh knot]

I have two small miscellaneous thoughts:
||First, Meteon using the build to attack reminds me of Advent Childred/End of Remake Sphiroth. A message earlier noticed it looks similar to an attack of the first boss of Astro Bot. It's the second time a Switch 2 edition seemingly got inspired by it (A Jamboree mouse minigame have a rock climbing one similar to the monkey powerup), two nickels.
Second and arguably more important, because Elfilis species absorb and change form that is best suited for the world they are conquering, did they become a furry-like creature because they mostly absorbed animals? (Probably not and their perfect form is always the deer-like one and the design is like this because a furry working at Nintendo submitted their OC and it got used???)||

[lapis terrace]

||on a scale of yes to yes how pathetic is it to be kinda mad over the final boss of scw||

[hearty eagle]

||have you done uczex yet?||

[indigo mulch]

||I'm mad that its not Potential Knight Scale||

[harsh knot]

||Not gonna lie, I am slightly underwhelmed||

[indigo mulch]

/joke

[lapis terrace]

||i dont care. its not him :( yknow what nah its not even that it wasnt gk, its just that it was elfilis AGAIN. barely anything new. everyone making shit jokes about gk doesnt help my petty mood either. i know its immature but i cant help it||

[indigo mulch]

||next Kirby Game will feature Dadfilis.||

[pulsar nexus]

||I physically and mentally died. Magolor reference. 39,860/10||

[harsh knot]

||The giant version reference Chaos Elfilis background shadow attack and Meteon can realise it is quite hype though, reminds me of big Dedede in Blowout Blast||

[pulsar nexus]

||bro inviting the entire family tree||

[lapis terrace]

||saw a post saying that meteon was like, really disappointing idea but BRILLIANT execution and i hate that its right. it was a really good final fight like REALLY good idk if that makes it better or worse||

[pulsar nexus]

||I need to start playing English version at some point. So far I’m in my second play though in my native language (Japanese)||

[harsh knot]

||I completely get it is just Elfilis again though, at least they expanded their species lore a lot and we got hints of Galacta Knight lore. We already got Morpho canon debut, and this DLC should be relevant to FL's story||

[lapis terrace]

||they didnt even say his name.||

[marsh terrace]

Its time

[pulsar nexus]

||honestly I did wished it was someone else, BUT, the figure description really changed my thoughts. And also it makes sense. Also I can’t be mad considering… LOR AND MAGOLOR REFERE-||

[lapis terrace]

||idk if im more upset about gk or the fact that i AM upset. idk maybe its just the autism||

[harsh knot]

It's funny, the most common theory of ||it being another Elfilis in larva form, Galacta Knight, or even Dark Nebula all came true.||

[lapis terrace]

||my second guess was neichel boss fight and im like. that wouldve been so cool||

[harsh knot]

They have got ||Galactal, it's as close as you can get||

[eager prawn]

||I think it was a cool way to expand on the lore of the FL and wrap it in a neat little bow. I think given the DLC, everyone expected something new and exciting, but the more I think about it, the more glad I am they kept everything tight. It feels way more satisfying and, to be completely honest, I think it leaves more room for them to do something amazing the next game.||

[hearty eagle]

||the pipe: SCW lore
Starving man: galacta knight fans
Fat man: Nichel fans||

[lapis terrace]

||i havent started the new arena but like. neichel doesnt even get that much lore||

[indigo mulch]

||the lost song.||

[eager prawn]

||Like I was genuinely as hyped as the next guy for GK. I thought I was going crazy. But the more I think about it, I am so glad they wrapped up all the loose ends the FL brought about, whilst also introducing something potentially exciting and plot relevant for future (re: the starries)||

[indigo mulch]

Or ||whatever you called it||

||Neichel becomes ship( crying)||

[eager prawn]

||also the stuff to do with the lor Starcutter is so exciting||

||that’s like 100% confirmation of who the ancients were if I’m not wrong||

[harsh knot]

I bet that the next time we fight ||GK, we are going to be rained down by Starry Meteor like they made him rain down heart spears in SKC||

[harsh knot]

||Did you not know Neichel might be Lor?||

[lapis terrace]

||really? idk if i missed anything in the figurines that i havent got yet but i think its just implied she was a similar ship to it||

[eager prawn]

Would really recommend trying to get all the figurines… the lore is pretty cool actually

[lapis terrace]

im still salty and immature over the whole thing i need a bit (also grinding is gonna take a while)

[eager prawn]

Fair enough lol ||tbh I am still so confused over what is going on with genwel’s design… what the hell is the orb thing doing there if it’s another member of elfilis’ species??||

[dark crow]

Why dont i have the cup

[lapis terrace]

||he wants to be void termina so fucking bad||

you will never be him

[eager prawn]

bro thinks he’s him

[lapis terrace]

bro thinks hes like THREE of them

[indigo mulch]

||5 Leongars, jump him.||

[eager prawn]

||all the blatant GK references in the 3rd phase of the battle was actually disrespectful when genwel robbing GKs house and he lowk goes for the airfryer||

[indigo mulch]

||GK being washed started before Genwel.||

[eager prawn]

||genwel why you trying not to laugh that’s mad disrespectful||

[indigo mulch]

||Potential Knight memes started cuz someone say Kirby needs some VS slander and someone make a Potential Knight meme.||

[eager prawn]

||potential knight is literally just too good||

[indigo mulch]

https://fxtwitter.com/SomethingInWorl/status/1949560007743488070

☠️Something In The World☠️| COMMS CLOSED 3/3 (@SomethingInW...

MEET POTENTIAL MAN

Quoting ☠️Something In The World☠️| COMMS CLOSED 3/3 (@SomethingInWorl)
︀
I feel like the Kirby fandom should have more powerscaling battles
︀︀
︀︀People shill Kirby too much we need to put him in his place

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FxTwitter · Jul 27, 2025, 7:58 PM

[eager prawn]

hang on where’s the frank sinatra my way edit

[indigo mulch]

"He'll beat Pyribbit too eventually"

[lapis terrace]

:(

[eager prawn]

I love you gk

[indigo mulch]

Galacta Knight vs Roaring Knight

[eager prawn]

at least roaring knight actually can’t be beaten

Like it’s written in. Maybe humiliated but they come out on top

But then again I think Kirby would beat the roaring knight on principle

[harsh knot]

Who is VS?

[eager prawn]

so does it really count if GK can be beaten

[indigo mulch]

||powerscaling stuffs||

[crude copper]

||idk I don't think this is really true at all. Most if not all attacks are new and 2-3 phases are straight up unlike anything in Elfilis boss fight imo||

[elder ice]

What if someone made a dark fountain in the kirby universe

[eager prawn]

king dedede’s castle 𝒹𝒶𝓇𝓀 world

[elder ice]

||Like why does meteon feel more complete than his sibling||

[eager prawn]

what

[crude copper]

Show me where Elfilis ||picks up a building with their bare hands and chucks it at Kirby||

[eager prawn]

why did my autocorrect do that

[crude copper]

||ig this is why genwel thought that elfilis is washed||

||Im not gonna lie genuinely but i feel like people who straight up expected GK were setting themselves up for disappointment and aren't really fair to the boss(es). They are amazing imo||

[elder ice]

||Like was genwel hal’s intended plans for elfilis||

[crude copper]

||Like even one of my friends from other server loved them and he's not as warm towards Forgotten Land as most people||

[elder ice]

||because i felt like elfilis was meant to have more phases||

[harsh knot]

||Genwel and their "first name" is probably a title, even when Elfilis is split in half, they wanted to keep Fecto in their name. And very likely Genwel is a corrupted "General".||

[eager prawn]

||fl feels way more complete with the dlc. Like it’s a well rounded story and everything properly ties in now. And I thought it was fine before too||

||it’s honestly surprising how well they managed to adjust the original timeline of the story||

[indigo mulch]

||Kumazaki: I will make a thousand Elfilis bosses before I add Galacta Knight||

[crude copper]

||Also I said this earlier but Galacta Knight doesn't even belong in this game. He has no narrative relevance whatsoever. If he really did show up it would be cheap fanservice.||

[eager prawn]

Wait wasn’t ||kumazaki technically not involved with the dlc?||

[lapis terrace]

||im respectfully gonna disagree. elfilis's story was just fine as it was with ultimate cup z. we really didnt NEED another one and while i agree the boss fight was amazing!!! the lore is disappointing||

[crude copper]

He's still credited as the general director and he probably wrote all the text as per usual

There's is no Kirby game nowadays that doesn't have him involved

[eager prawn]

Right

I did see discussion about some other directors and kumazaki concurrently working on another game though

[indigo mulch]

||Didn't Kumazaki write the lyrics to the songs?||

[elder ice]

||Gk is being set up, it’s just that hes too big for the dlc||

[crude copper]

||In Robobot his appearance is kind of poorly done but it still ties as a sorta sequel to previous Meta Knightmare. Can't say anything about SKC because I don't like that game||

To put in layman's terms

||if GK appreared in this game it would be like his RTDL appearance. Unwarranted and inexplicable||

[eager prawn]

Tbh in SKC they didn’t have to make him as interesting as he did. Before that game, he was kinda not tied into the lore of the series like at all. They could’ve killed him off in KSA and left it at that.

[crude copper]

Yea ^

[eager prawn]

But they didn’t

[indigo mulch]

||at least Dark Nebula gets a reference ||

[eager prawn]

||idk I feel like they might possibly utilise him for something more strongly linked to the immediate lore of the series in future||

[crude copper]

I just feel like this is the case of being disappointed over something the game never promised or advertised in the first place

[harsh knot]

||It teases him for sure, and it's not silly to expect him. Just that it is not his story right now and now that you know you have to adjust what you can expect for the game.||

[eager prawn]

I think if they introduce it and justify it well enough, it won’t come off as fanservice (although I guess that might be inescapable atp)

[crude copper]

I don't think another appearance for him is automatically fanservice

[eager prawn]

again…. Might be time to think about playing the rest of the game

[lapis terrace]

fine fine

[crude copper]

But there was no precedent for him to show up in this game besides referential imagery

[indigo mulch]

||i mean Morpho still exist||

[eager prawn]

The Galactals were just devious tbh

[crude copper]

||Like why would he be even incased in this dark heart thing when we all know he's in a crystal. How did he end up on this planet if we know he's in another dimension. ||

[harsh knot]

I need to stress, ||they already take one what if knight and broght him into canon in the base game already, making another one do it in the same game feels excessive.||

[indigo mulch]

||he wants to be Canon i guess||

[eager prawn]

|| they did end up confirming the starries were responsible for sealing him away though, which is something a lot of people predicted on the condition that gk might be included||

[indigo mulch]

||how did GK get sealed by the Starries in the first place smh.||

[eager prawn]

Evil Plans He Could Not Share With You Because The Haters Will Sabotage

[harsh knot]

I mean, you already acknowledge you are doing it multiple times. Just let your feeling sit for a bit more, and examine why you feel this way. You can take a bit more time to form your opinion before ranting to everyone that probably have no problem with the story being told.

[lapis terrace]

that is good advice thank you

sorry for being a dick

[crude copper]

||yeah like. Its not like bro got nothing. Crumbs yeah but it clearly hints that starries will return and will be important in relation to GK||

||Idk if they will do this but i think it'd be an interesting role reversal if starries were antagonistic next time you meet them. Like they try to seal away someone who doesn't deserve it or something. Like, how their judgement is even made, anyway? Who put them in charge. Much to think about.||

[indigo mulch]

||Evil Starries||

[crude copper]

More like misguided

But yeah lol

[eager prawn]

also ||children “of the stars”??? Where have I heard that before||

[crude copper]

In Star Allies

:^)

[eager prawn]

exactly

[south gorge]

alright am i crazy ||or is the giant-ass meteor very reminiscent of the jamba heart||

[eager prawn]

That’s like a new and intriguing plot line for them to follow in future

[harsh knot]

To be fair, all the GK stuff is extremely obvious in the trailers, I was on board of that train until someone pointed out the fetus form in the heart

And also ironically believed in Dark Nebula's revival

[winged pebble]

Finally beat the game and the TUCZEX but I'm just going to talk about songs
||also it's crazy that they finally used Kirby of the stars as a title for the first time||
||they also really went for a full pretentious title with the final boss lmfao even if it's supposed to parallel Fecto||
||also nice that we finally have names for Dark Taranza and Chapter 3 Dedede and Meta Knight battles because they loved reusing songs during the final 4||
||crazy also how they made a Hungry Pink Puffball remix for some reason that only has a random chance to play on level 3 hard tilt and roll Kirby||

[eager prawn]

||no you are not crazy but at the same time, hearts are part of the shape language of the Kirby series (like stars and eyes) so whilst the reference is intentional, it’s like. Not quite if that makes sense?||

[south gorge]

YEAH ||i was so happy about seeing kirby of the stars||

[south gorge]

yeah im just very caught off guard ||between that and the very major void parallels|| bonus: ||morpho knight having void soul's theme. for some reason lol||

[eager prawn]

||there are very very vague connections to void I guess. Kumazaki is still being incredibly cagey about it…||

[lapis terrace]

ooo did they

[winged pebble]

||I was not expecting them to use a Dream buffet song for parallel meta knight lol
I love the song but I seriously did not think they would choose that one||

[lapis terrace]

thats cool

[eager prawn]

The music was honestly the highlight for me

Every single song absolutely slapped

[south gorge]

star allies having a major lore drop for the entire kirby universe and then kumazaki hitting us with the nuh uh anytime someone tries to bring it up lmao

[lapis terrace]

i think the alivel mall remix was my favourite

[eager prawn]

Hey whatever keeps people invested

I know I will be for a very long time

[south gorge]

the only void here is the void that kumazaki sends people to if they bring up void at all

[south gorge]

same haha

although tbf for me im in the very very VERY small percent of kirby fans that has star allies as a top 3 game for me

[eager prawn]

Void full of “here’s this incredibly vague, difficult to accurately translate blurb which might or might not fundamentally shift the entire plot of Kirby. No I will not elaborate”

[south gorge]

RIGHT??

[eager prawn]

should I actually buy and play Star allies honestly

[south gorge]

yes

especially if you're a fan of kirby lore

[eager prawn]

need to hear astral birth play in person

[crude copper]

||Im Very happy that Kirby of the stars is canon now in English||

[south gorge]

ohhhh such a good song

[glossy cedar]

[crude copper]

I feel like that's something Kumazaki might have suggested but that's just a hunch

[harsh knot]

Before Star Allies came out, I have a theory dream rod and love-love stick might come back because Kirby's befriend abilities are hearts and the big gimmick being the friend star, or relating the last big bad in Robobot has Heart shape design. (It's a mess I don't remember much) It was all just the shape design of the Kirby universe

[eager prawn]

I love all ||the extra bits for Kirby they added. The new voice lines. Astronomer waddle Dee calling him “their pride” I nearly shed a tear||

THATS MY SONNN ohhhh kirby i love you

[glossy cedar]

YEA

[south gorge]

YEAHHH I LOVE THEMMM🥹

[winged pebble]

oh yeah also music ||also pretty funny how every single HAL Kirby composer was just brought together
I was expecting Ikegemi to have composed the song like before but it's funny that they now credit him first for composing a song like in Dream Buffet
also I was trying to guess what songs were Ohara when I was playing
I think the track that stood out to me the most was Moonlight Canyon Labyrinth as definitely being Ohara and I was really pumped to have guessed correctly
||

[eager prawn]

Yeah they really went all out for the ost

[south gorge]

dude its been so long since ive played forgotten land, i just started lv1 of the dlc and absorbed blade knight and got morpho knight jumpscared LMAO i forgot that ability was just. a thing in this game

[eager prawn]

unfortunately rtdl is stuck as my favourite ost but SCW has skyrocketed to a solid second place

[winged pebble]

||I will say final boss wise I can definitely say that the stuff they did would only work on the switch 2||

[indigo mulch]

||Sakai and Ohara are involved right?||

[winged pebble]

||like, all of them||

[indigo mulch]

||5 Leongars?||

[winged pebble]

yeah

[eager prawn]

5. Hundred. ||leongars||

[south gorge]

star allies has my single favorite ost in any nintendo game and its just because of scarred lands of dreams and fresh greens😭

[glossy cedar]

the star allies ost is fucking awesome

[south gorge]

YES

[eager prawn]

Man I might need to actually buy it

[south gorge]

please do

[glossy cedar]

I DONT KNOW IF ITS MY FAVORITE OST IF WE’RE INCLUDING ALL NINTENDO GAMES (super mario galaxy 1&2) BUT ITS SO GOATED

[winged pebble]

||sakai did lost in alivel mall, waste that count time, and crumbling fiery forbidden lands and they definitely have his style||

[eager prawn]

$90 though…

Maybe I can find a pre owned one

[south gorge]

$90???

oh aud or cad?

[eager prawn]

AUD

[south gorge]

yeahh

[indigo mulch]

It's only 20 to upgrade

[south gorge]

def try to find a pre owned copy

[winged pebble]

||alivel sounds like a rainbow curse song and crumbling fiery forbidden lands is basically half Magma Flows||

[south gorge]

no star allies

[indigo mulch]

Ah

[glossy cedar]

STAR ALLIES IS 90?????

[south gorge]

aud

[eager prawn]

if you are down under yes

[indigo mulch]

Australia

[glossy cedar]

oh right

[eager prawn]

Evil and sinister exchange rate

[south gorge]

is kumazaki currently taking souls for trade because i'll trade my soul for a super star ultra remake for switch 2

[glossy cedar]

OKAY that makes sense

90 aud is around 60 usd

[crude copper]

With new game i feel like there's more of an effort to make Kirby feel like a character rather than blank slate player avatar and i really appreciate it

[eager prawn]

So hyped for someone to upload nice rips of the SCW ost tho

[crude copper]

I love how Kirby now has muffled sounds when he's in mouthful mode lol

[glossy cedar]

super star ultra like

like

[south gorge]

super duper star ultra

[glossy cedar]

the remake of kirby super star with that one sidegame where you play as meta knight and

[south gorge]

yaya

my fav kirby game of all time

[glossy cedar]

has him fight a new guy who would later be reintroduced in multiple games

[eager prawn]

wait I just remembered I downloaded triple deluxe omfg

[glossy cedar]

SAME BRO

SAME

it was my first kirby game i love it

[south gorge]

same

[crude copper]

Triple Peak

[south gorge]

it was my first video game iirc

[glossy cedar]

ive had the demo for planet robobot on my 2ds for

[twilit mural]

beautiful video

[glossy cedar]

years upon years and then i have the thing on an emulator

[south gorge]

my top 3 kirby games are SSU, Planet Robobot, and Star Allies

[crude copper]

idk what my top 3 is but its probably forgotten land and 3ds duology

[eager prawn]

i downloaded KPR earlier this year because for the life of me i could not find my 3ds

[south gorge]

||THE LITTLE DANCE KIRBY DOES AFTER SAVING A STARRY|| they're so cute i love kirby

[eager prawn]

and i had never beaten the true arena

[eager prawn]

genuinely cute farming the entire game

[crude copper]

cute farming >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. aura farming

[glossy cedar]

i remember getting so sad about ||gk not making it in|| but then like

[south gorge]

REAL

[glossy cedar]

||WE GOT A BUNCH OF REALLY IMPORTANT LORE||

[south gorge]

i love kirby games the whole thing is cute farming and then whoops eldritch horrors beyond your comprehension

[glossy cedar]

||AND WE GOT A BIT OF GK LORE TOO (we know what sealed him now)||

i cant say im unhappy about it anymore LOL

[glossy cedar]

IT IS

[crude copper]

starries...

[eager prawn]

kirby please don't make that cute emote you've got ||5 red hulking leongars behind you||

[crude copper]

ngl i genuinely didnt expect them to be like. important

i thought they will be just waddle dee replacements for dlc lol

[glossy cedar]

lowkey if ||they’re saving gk for something big|| im pretty sure the starries will make a comeback

[eager prawn]

||tbh the starries kinda sucked at their job. they needed an outside source (kirby) to beat down the thing they were trying to seal away LOL i hope we see them again...||

||i hope we get more variants of them actually||

[winged pebble]

oh btw uhh is there a new HAL room discovered yet btw

[crude copper]

yes

[glossy cedar]

||it makes you wonder how they were able to seal galacta||

[crude copper]

by yukkuri

i think its pinned

[south gorge]

AHHH LETS GOO

[eager prawn]

that's basically a given at this point... holding onto that interview for SKC with all my might

[indigo mulch]

||you think someone will try to do a vocaloid cover of the last song?||

[crude copper]

100%

[glossy cedar]

||like did that one group of magic dudes hyness was talking about/a part of have to wear down the guy????||

[crude copper]

the last ||description involving them is literally all like. what the fuck are starries? where did they come from? what are they doing? and not explaining anything lmao||

[eager prawn]

HAL knows how to set up future lore payoffs so well

[crude copper]

im not even mad because they explained a lot of other stuff so they gotta keep more mysteries for the future

[eager prawn]

||the lor starcutter stuff being the best example||

[south gorge]

||what are starries? where did they come from? find out next time on Kirby Stops The End of the World||

[indigo mulch]

||IWonder if the next Music Fest will have a vocal cover of the Last Song||

[eager prawn]

PLEASE it's genuinely a banger

[indigo mulch]

||or will someone make a vocal cover of it themselves.||

[craggy trench]

||why did starries absolutely lock in when it comes galacta knight but fail horribly at their jobs when it comes to genwel||

[crude copper]

i need

a remix of sparkling star showers

because that song

hits

[glossy cedar]

im still wondering if like. ||neichel became the lor somehow||

[south gorge]

||elfilin: kirby!! we have to save all the starries!! or the world will end!! kirby: dont carrree im fishing||

[glossy cedar]

EXACTLY

[indigo mulch]

||Galacta Knight is so fraudulent that the Starries can seal him.||

[south gorge]

||wait its confirmed that starries sealed GK?||

[eager prawn]

||also why did they describe GK as "galaxy destroying". Bro what did he do||

[crude copper]

||figurines kinda tried to explain it i guess. they noticed that genwel is approaching the planet too late so they could do only so much. i assume with GK it was more organized effort?||

just speculation in this case tho

[glossy cedar]

i think ||gk was either worn down by a bunch of guys and then sealed or a bunch of starries fucking rushed him||

[winged pebble]

Oh ok I see
that explains why ||that random breakable crystal with a green coin and nothing else bothered me so much||

[torpid locust]

|| I will maintain the potential knight agenda until GK shows up in a mainline game. If he shows up.||

[eager prawn]

maybe the ancients were like "mods kill that guy" and as such ||the starries were a bit more directed in trying to contain him||

[craggy trench]

Interesting...

[south gorge]

my hc is ||galacta knight was sealed by starries and then his crystal being summoned by star dream made him so fucking angry because his last memory was being sealed and thats why he just beat up star dream in planet robobot||

[glossy cedar]

||in a figure its implied - the starries were noted to have sealed away a “fiend capable of destroying galaxies”||

[eager prawn]

tbh i personally find the whole drama with the four original heroes of yore so interesting, especially as a parallel to the main quartet

[south gorge]

ohhh shit fr? thats so cool

[south gorge]

oh yeah deltarune time

[crude copper]

japanese makes it more explicit

||it says its the STRONGEST fiend||

[glossy cedar]

||now im wondering which member of the quartet corresponds to which hero||

[craggy trench]

||god i do hope we get to learn more about galacta soon, i know we have a good amount already, but i'm really interested in how powerful he truly is to be described as being able to destroy galaxies, what did this guy do??||

[eager prawn]

thank god it wasnt ||the potential fiend||

[crude copper]

lolllll

[eager prawn]

||close enough welcome back kirby is gk theory||

[glossy cedar]

||does gk parallel to kirby or mk?||

[south gorge]

dude when did i beat ultimate cup z i have no memory of doing this

[glossy cedar]

[eager prawn]

there's like a pinboard in my mind for this

i dont actually believe it but it's fun to think about

[glossy cedar]

me with galacta knight bro

[winged pebble]

I haven't gotten all the Starries figurines and songs yet so I'll be back once I can do that

[south gorge]

not as insane as my crack theories

[crude copper]

good luck

[craggy trench]

||do people still think the masks from KF2 belong to two of the heroes still or am i lame and stupid for thinking about that still||

[crude copper]

||they have no lore whatsoever so its like who even knows!!!!!!!||

[eager prawn]

like. idk. there might be something there

||- implied connection to void||
||- immense power||
||- not native to the planet they exist on||
||- supposed kin was sealed away by starries||

[south gorge]

when i first played ssu my random-ass brain said "what if kirby and marx are exes" ???? what does that even mean child version of me are u insane

[indigo mulch]

||Please do a vocal cover of the Last Song in the next Music Fest (call it Last Song (Completed)||

[crude copper]

actually

oh eemm gieee

how likely do you think itll be for ||neichel to return in the next concert||

[eager prawn]

surely

[crude copper]

neichel went from like

oh! cool flavor text

to like

holy shit im invested???

[craggy trench]

||considering we have like two more songs performed by her, i definitely see her returning||

[indigo mulch]

||Neichel will return to the next concert...||

||you will see a giant replica of Lor Starcutter going on stage and sing Neichel's songs in beeps.||

[eager prawn]

like ||why would she do that to herself. What made her want to stay in the FL? so many questions so few answers||

[frail geyser]

does anyone have more than 149 music tracks? hal rooms?

[crude copper]

||...unless she really did become the lor...||

[eager prawn]

neichel now sings in morse code

[crude copper]

yeah there is a hal room

[glossy cedar]

BUT HOW

[crude copper]

idk!!!!!

[eager prawn]

aaaand that's just a theory!

[crude copper]

maybe the same way star dream stole haltmann's mind.

[eager prawn]

but for real this is all so exciting

[frail geyser]

*kidnaps kuma*

[eager prawn]

where is the kirby lore google document kumazaki

add me

[crude copper]

at this point he has got to keep a document to keep things in check right

god

i wanna look at it lmaooo

i wouldn even understand anything because i dont know japanese

[south gorge]

||do you think when they're making the hal rooms they're like "hehe surely it'll take months to figure this one out!" and then people find it in like 6 hours and the devs are just like ????||

[crude copper]

||i mean tbh. people not in the fandom and kids might take a longer time to figure those out||

we are just freaks

kirby freaks

[eager prawn]

||wait hang on last song sounds like neichel is sitting down to play at a keyboard after setting up the mic at the beginning||

[south gorge]

poyo

[indigo mulch]

||Genwel is actually form from the Jamba Heart that Dedede give Hyness.||

[eager prawn]

||so she wouldve had to remain on the FL right?||

||i'd like to think last song is, in reality, just her playing the melody on a keyboard recording with a shitty mic... unless she has all her proper equipment just lying there||

||hey there's no one else left on this planet let me just boot up fl studio||

new and improved theory

[frail geyser]

so a clean 150 music tracks as far as we know?

[indigo mulch]

||wait so are the Japanese community also speculating Neichel becomes Lor or what?||

[eager prawn]

||lyrics are from the lor-as-neichel (or a remnant of her at least), because i guess that makes more sense given "that planet seems so far away, i never can return to those old days", but the actual melody is being played by real neichel alone in the FL||

since that makes sense with the sound effects at the beginning

[crude copper]

so more accurately would be like

||someone programmed lor's AI to be a replica of neichel?||

||rather than her literally turning into Lor||

[eager prawn]

yeah, but might have memories?

[crude copper]

yeah

[wise hinge]

||god that would freak Magolor out lmao||

[crude copper]

akshually

something to consider

if this theory is true...

lor might ||sing 🥺 we might get more neichel songs (but as lor)||

[indigo mulch]

Magolor: I love my ship.

||Lor: hey Magolor i am actually a pop singer from a New World.||

Magolor:

[eager prawn]

would actually be so good

[indigo mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-magolor-insanity-gif-27227666

[crude copper]

us

all of us rn

[wise hinge]

||Magolor Starnanza where Magolor tells Lor Starcutter to sing to destroy Void termina||

[glossy cedar]

ALL of us

[eager prawn]

||if I was an AI replica of myself stuck as a spaceship, i would also try and torment the guy who stole me||

[eager prawn]

well okay

[indigo mulch]

||This sticker aged well||

[glossy cedar]

||and then the main antagonist is some smaller egg thing who later gets fucking annihilated by an angry galacta knight||

[eager prawn]

speaking of egg things

||why did the galactals look like that||

||moreso the body plan||

[glossy cedar]

what species is magolor again

[eager prawn]

||how does that relate to elfilis' species||

[glossy cedar]

I HAVE NO IDEA BUT

||THEY NEED TO BE CONNECTED TO POTENTIAL KNIGHT||

[wise hinge]

||"YOU STOLE MY HYPE MOMENTS AND AURA FROM ME AND I MUST STRIVE TO BE THE GREATEST WARRIOR IN THE GALAXY AGAIN"||

[eager prawn]

i made a bunch of like. designs for ancients based off the galactals back when they were first kinda shown

[indigo mulch]

||egg||

[eager prawn]

||but... they can't be now right?||

||all GK stuff aside, the galactals look incredibly inconsistent with all other FL enemies and that's on purpose; they're not technically from the FL||

[frail geyser]

are there any new offline/town present codes besides ||starrysearch||? elfilin keeps bugging me about finding one

[eager prawn]

||why do they look like that though?? the floating hands???? they look NOTHING like genwel??||

[thorn sleet]

Credits

Guessing there’ll be more in Z-EX cup

[crude copper]

and even more in figurines

[thorn sleet]

Neat

That ||guy at the end seemed really tough, is it common to first time it?||

[dire ledge]

nah people use the buffs all teh time

[thorn sleet]

I didn’t

[dire ledge]

you are uncommon

[thorn sleet]

||I figured it would be too easy with morpho sword+ too so I went in with meta knight sword instead||

[crude copper]

based tbh

jedi - gamer

[dire ledge]

whenever i get a Swtich 2i wanna do it with base cutter no power ups

[eager prawn]

..cutter?

[dire ledge]

yea

[eager prawn]

respect

[crude copper]

i will use dedede hammer

its overpowered but not to the extent of morpho sword

[dire ledge]

I did UCZ og with just base cutter

and every fight felt good

[eager prawn]

when i eventually get a switch 2 for the next mainline game, i'll probably try base kirby for the bit

then end up cheesing with morpho sword

[dire ledge]

I have projectile with range and power, close quarters attacks, and quick use

[crude copper]

i actually beat forgotten land once with just base kirby. no copy abilities involved even once

[eager prawn]

WOW

[crude copper]

man im obsessed with this game lol

i never played another kirby game like this

it was fun!

[eager prawn]

i havent yet... 100%ed my current file... although I have 100%ed the game once

i kinda gave up because i guess i already did it

and the tilt minigame gave me so much grief LMFAO

i need to replay FL i think

[crude copper]

thankfully you dont need to do extra hard versions for 100%

[eager prawn]

wow i did NOT know that... i wasted... so much time

[shy dock]

Those clever bastards

[twilit mural]

||DUDE IT'S THE HAMMER! HES REAL!!||

[eager prawn]

is that sirloin...

[strong furnace]

||Oh my GOD||

[crude copper]

they cant keep getting away with this

[craggy trench]

||>52 is 25 flipped||

[thorn sleet]

Final boss ||Genwell is a really funny boss btw||
||>shows up

evil fucking meteor
says nothing
toughest fight in the game
gigachad?||

[elder ice]

Has anyone uploaded the ultimate cup ex tracks?

[thorn sleet]

I’d tag that tbh

[torpid locust]

They can’t keep getting away with this

[crude copper]

||once you learn his lore hes even funnier||

[eager prawn]

||genwel's fight is so funny he's so fucking mad at kirby the whole time||

||actual rage seeping through the screen||

||even chaos elfilis wasn't that mad||

[thorn sleet]

||Looking forward to getting that capsule in 7 hours of grinding star coins||

[eager prawn]

does kirby unintentionally ragebait all his enemies at all times

[thorn sleet]

You cannot say this

[crude copper]

kirby is just being a whimsical little guy and that pissed everyone off

[crude copper]

im sorry.......

[frail geyser]

bump

[sand roost]

||wouldn't call him gigachad when his ass gets kicked worse than his sibling's||

[torpid locust]

|| he literally swings a whole building at him bro ||

[eager prawn]

||then tries to actually squish him with his open hand||

[crude copper]

||well he is harder than his sibling at least||

||he swung hard so got hit harder||

||the scale in the second phase is still crazy to me. not even void felt as massive||

[elder ice]

||Genwel you just met him, why must you be so mad||

[eager prawn]

||genwel at kirby the entire battle||

[torpid locust]

|| Kirby and genwell ||

[eager prawn]

he just has that aura about him

not everyone can handle the love and joy he has to give

[crude copper]

||i also just appreciate how fleshed out elfilis clan is. ||

[torpid locust]

True

[crude copper]

||there are still mysteries about them, but as characters. mwah||

[eager prawn]

are we gonna expect a new influx of ||elflis species based ocs now||

[thorn sleet]

Probably gonna stay out of here until I’ve done and gotten everything so toodles, see you all again in idk. tomorrow maybe

[crude copper]

cya jedi

[forest hawk]

||I'm surprised that no one outside this channel caught on to the Neichel Lor thing yet||

[crude copper]

i hope so

[eager prawn]

we are simply that locked in

[crude copper]

||now that its confirmed its the whole race. imaginations will run wild||

[eager prawn]

||man i even had an elfilis species design just. sitting there. doing nothing.||

||shouldve invested||

[harsh knot]

||Let's ignore the morality of their action for a second, if I came to clean up my sibling's mistake and saw that they got killed when I travel, I think I would be very pissed as well||

[crude copper]

||at least 40 percent of people are still reeling that their GK predictions were wrong so lets give them time||

[eager prawn]

||elfilin, possibly there the whole time:||

[strong furnace]

||The rise of the Sonafilises||

[mental osprey]

||Something I love about Genwel is how different his personality is compared to Elfilis||
||Elfilis is more calm and composed outside of near the end of the fight, and they’re pretty slow but strategic with their attacks||
||Meteonelfilis is more physical however and goes in for the kill. They’re more aggressive with their attacks and has a better hold on his powers. You can tell their much more experienced then their younger sibling||

[crude copper]

||tbf i dont think they even knew they got killed. i think it was just on sight||

[thorn sleet]

You gotta tag these things man, people aren’t stupid

[crude copper]

you should coin that

[eager prawn]

my bad og

[thorn sleet]

preciated

[harsh knot]

||I don't think their society would value compassion at all, Elfilis might as well be dead to him. Elfilin is also an experiment mistake, possibly unique in the whole world.||

[eager prawn]

||where is the elfilis species politics and socioeconomics i need it||

[crude copper]

man i kinda feel sorry for elfilin

[strong furnace]

||My question is...who eradicated the rest of the species?||

[crude copper]

||imagine not having anyone to relate to because your closest relatives are cold blooded killers||

[crude copper]

||was that actually stated that they were eradicated||

cuz i dont remember that

[strong furnace]

Uhhhh

hang on

I dont have the description on me dammit

[torpid locust]

|| don’t worry, he has Kirby and co. to keep him company||

[harsh knot]

||I think the figure said Meteon is the last of the Star of Disaster meteor like him?||

[crude copper]

yeah elfilin has friends but still

[eager prawn]

do you remember ||which figure?||

[strong furnace]

||The Elfilis and Genewel trophy, I'd need to reread that||

[crude copper]

i said this before but this dlc also like

boosted elfilin for me

[elder ice]

||Imagine if the elfilis species is actually chill it's just that those two are just the worst||

[crude copper]

i always liked him but hes more interesting now

and compelling

[eager prawn]

||agree i really like how they actually tapped into his history beyond the whole "he's actually related to/part of the final boss" in the og||

||it's definitely gotta suck though||

[crude copper]

also the dlc showed how he can contribute to kirby's adventures past FL's incident

he's like. a portable translator in a cute furry form 😭

[harsh knot]

Yeah, Elfilin was always a bit weaker of a character for me, and I think I have stated I didn't care for him when he got captured by Dedede at first. I liked him because he is cute, but this DLC definitely made me like him on a deeper level

[eager prawn]

genuinely a little guy of all time

i always liked elfilin considering his duality with elfilis, but i guess it's never really touched on aside from the end of the UCZ

[strong furnace]

Okay I guess not

[crude copper]

phew

ngl

itd be lame if this was stated

||i like the idea of them still lurking around and be potential future threat||

[torpid locust]

<—- the scrunkly

[crude copper]

like

[strong furnace]

||Their mother ||

[elder ice]

I'm glad elfilin is actually a good guy

[crude copper]

||elfilis clan is genuinely scarier than dark matter even if they are not literally creepy the same way dark matter was. i guess its because elfilis clan is more slightly more realistically evil||

||they are very cruel and petty. and there's a lot of them apparently||

[eager prawn]

||they could be really useful for another kirby game in terms of like... say for instance: one was captured by an unrelated third party and is used as like an area boss for something||

many possible uses for them in future

[harsh knot]

||That too, but I assume they have the psychic power to know that the only remnant left of his sibling is Elfilin and he had no remorse in attacking him and Kirby.||

[elder ice]

||Dark matter also acts more on instinct, the elfilis clan is implied to actually know what they are doing||

[eager prawn]

||their designs are a little weird though and I only really see them fitting in KATFL||

[crude copper]

YEAH

like they ||CHOOSE to be evil assholes||

[eager prawn]

||i wonder how much different other members of the elfilis species would look? considering genwel and fecto are directly related||

[crude copper]

||i guess the main thing they have in common is that they are lanky and graceful||

[eager prawn]

||also considering that fecto looks very animalistic and that's consistent with the other KATFL designs; genwel looks way different. I don't actually think he has fur?||

||also what's with the orb in genwel's horns. Is there anything pertaining to what the deal with that is anywhere in the DLC||

is it akin to ||chaos elfilis 2nd stage? but at the same time, that always came across as more of a consequence of being incomplete and being hopped up on morpho juice||

[strong furnace]

||The cores are likely the true form of the species||

[harsh knot]

T-45 minute until Meteorz start streaming

[strong furnace]

May not a soul spoil that man

[shy dock]

||Something I've noticed - you know how Meteon makes a star shape with his ears? If Elfilis did the same thing, it would make a sun. Makes you wonder what other shapes different species members would have||

[eager prawn]

if that's the case, then ||wouldn't the galactals be a valid form they could choose? since that's what genwel manifests before it can take form||

[harsh knot]

He won't allow it after Robobot's incident

[eager prawn]

||bottom of the social hierarchy elfilis which forms a square with its wing ears for some reason||

[crude copper]

i wonder if meteorz will have a similar reaction to lore this chat did

i.e complete insanity

[eager prawn]

he's gonna go nuts

[harsh knot]

||That's why Lord of Chaos have that attack but got amplified?||

[shy dock]

||Yeah, something in FL not many people bring much attention to is the fact that Forgo just. CHOOSES to turn all goopy. They can just do that.||

[torpid locust]

I hope he takes a break in between

[eager prawn]

||elfilis true form is gloop this is the breaking lore we needed||

[crude copper]

||i think the true form is the void-looking orbs||

||which opens up its own can of worms||

||or can of elfilises||

[eager prawn]

||my question is why is the void-looking orb present in genwel's base design||

[torpid locust]

He streamed the main game of FL for 10 hours straight

[crude copper]

||very very good question||

[eager prawn]

||why would you have an obvious weak spot. is genwel stupid.||

[crude copper]

yes

[eternal relic]

I think that’s the case, yeah

||their forms that they take from the final boss are probably predetermined partially, but how it looks and what they’re made of is determined by what they’re absorbing to achieve that form: which could explain why Elfilis has fur and Meteon is crystalline||

[crude copper]

next question

/j

[mental osprey]

||On the topic of the Elf Cores, along with the Starries you can see a crystal spike and a few Galactals trying to escape before dissipating||

[elder ice]

||Can we make jokes abt neichel being locked up in the lor like springtrap||

[crude copper]

||was i only one who thought about that one steven universe episode while watching this sequence.||

[mental osprey]

||YEAH||

[torpid locust]

|| MAGOLOR DONT LEAVE ME HERE||

[mental osprey]

||The whole fight reminded me of SU lol||

[eager prawn]

new crack theory ||race of ancients includes the galactal body model and genwel ended up taking out a bunch of them, and as such can manifest them like fecto forgo||

[shy dock]

||High quality visual recreation||

[crude copper]

||i thought that galactals were like. flawed security system if starries seal is broken||

[elder ice]

I actually have a fic

[split pier]

There's even music for RTDD in the true arena!!!!!

[eager prawn]

||again brings up the question why they have the same sort of body plan as exactly 0 of the characters in the FL||

there's sauce there... I can feel it

[split pier]

Anyone have a recording of all the new songs?🤩

I just found the HAL room and there's green tree memories music!

[harsh knot]

I didn't thought of that but they really do look similar to the (SU) ||force fusion experiments||.

[crude copper]

yup

[eager prawn]

wait a minute my crack theory could be legit

[strong furnace]

Yknow
||I think its interesting that Meteonelfilis has their core fully out and exposed while Elfilis hides it||

[eager prawn]

||if members of elfilis species can manifest the forms of those they have absorbed, then who exactly did genwel absorb to make the galactals?||

[eager prawn]

||because bro thinks he's tuff||

[crude copper]

just listened to ||last song||

wtfffff this is a banger 🤯

[strong furnace]

||I think the Galactals are their own creation. Elfilis can only replicate while Genwel can create something new||

[eager prawn]

but that seems to directly contrast the whole ||parasite theme they have going on||

[glossy cedar]

||what if genwel saw how fucking awesome gk was and decided to make the galactals||

[strong furnace]

true..

[crude copper]

if there was new kirby anime

this would be the ending theme

[wise hinge]

||WHAT IS HE DOING LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO||

[crude copper]

btw i subscribe to this theory as of now

[glossy cedar]

lowkey i would KILL for a second kirby anime

maybe have the first season cover super star (marx) and then uhhhh

idk what the dudes behind it should do after that other than rtdl

[crude copper]

no need to kill, i feel like nintendo acquiring warp star inc was for such a purpose :)

[glossy cedar]

[harsh knot]

People said clickbaity thumbnails showing final boss is bad, so they put actual clickbait only.

[crude copper]

also while game adaptations would be cool i kinda want them to do new stories. just with game characters

[glossy cedar]

oh my god wait i

[crude copper]

maybe do game adaptations as movies

[glossy cedar]

forgot kirby right back at ya happened

[crude copper]

i wish i could be you

[glossy cedar]

[crude copper]

and forget that it happened

alas

[wise hinge]

||why did I think about the possibility of Neichel just riding a swing somewhere in a park in Downtown Grassland while everyone's gone now and then she goes "Life is short ... fall in love, lu-waaaaa"||

[split pier]

Anyone has access to the true arena music?

[craggy trench]

||Magolor: Hey kirby! For getting 45 energy spheres you unlocked the Hi-Jump Copy Ability Challenge!
Kirby: Oh boy! I can't wait to challenge myself with Hi-Jump!
Neichel's rotting corpse inside the Lor Starcutter: ||

[wise hinge]

||IS THAT THE BITE OF 2011||

[elder ice]

||neichel is actually still alive the whole time in my fic, but she's been used as a living battery and the moment she disconnected she got burnt and fainted||

[elder ice]

||Magolor: wow this door never opened before let's see what's inside!

The Forgotten Diva, NEICHEL||

[wise hinge]

HELP AKLKDLSGLKJDSGLJKSDKGJSD

[elder ice]

||What if she is able to tank a magolor cannon||

[glossy cedar]

||NEW NEICHEL FEAT||

[elder ice]

||Galacta Knight when Neichel uses her New World Plasma Stage (up tilt + down tilt + a)||

[twilit mural]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[elder ice]

Yea it logically makes more sense

||I also have the theory the song is actually sung by the ai realizing she isn’t neichel||

[digital trench]

True, maybe they are like the chozo from metroid lol

[random gust]

dang i can't believe ||there's a cooler to fecto's frieza||

(i have not seen any dragonball movie, just the dbza abridged versions of the ones that have those, and it's been ages since i watched those either)

[elder ice]

||can’t wait for metal elfilis||

[random gust]

||golden elfilis||

[elder ice]

||black elfilis that is manga-exclusive||

[random gust]

||revenge of meteonelfilis...||

[shy dock]

||Isn't that basically Chaos Elfilis?||

[random gust]

true!

also i just recently learned that ||'antares' means 'rival to ares'||

[elder ice]

Can’t wait for kirby: resurrection ‘f’ecto

[shy dock]

Anyway after this DLC I need ||Cell VS Elfilis Death Battle|| more than ever

[harsh knot]

Just like Arctic and and Antarctic, same root

[random gust]

yeah

[shy dock]

||Well I sure hope somebody picks up that phone, because I FUCKING CALLED IT!||

[random gust]

it's just kinda funny i learned that now because it seems so obvious in hindsight

[elder ice]

Ok should i write neichel doomed yuri

[harsh knot]

I am still confused that ||they translated Melfilis into Meteonelfilis, did they got a translation guide that the added M is suppose to mean meteor and they just add the whole word to the name?||

[elder ice]

Because all the posting we did pre-release ended up making things even sadder

[harsh knot]

Meteorz is live

[random gust]

still wild to me that ||neichel is actual part of kirby lore now???||

[harsh knot]

There is no way ||the person who sang the first song with lyrics is not important to the Kirby lore.||

[elder ice]

The lab discovera tour guide ||chose to stay behind after neichel chose to||

[harsh knot]

I just saw Sealing Crystal is capitalised like a proper noun

[dire ledge]

||"See you in the new world"||

[random gust]

also ||did genwel's star wing attack remind anyone else of dark nebula or is that just me||

[cursive forum]

||Is there a bad ending for SCW?||

[sand saddle]

ZEX final boss ||Ooh they brought back Chaos Elfilis doing Green Flash-Full Moon
in base game only fecto does that while Chaos only does Rosen Bridge Edge instead||

[random gust]

someone made this comment on ||neichel's unfinished track||

[leaden granite]

nope not at all /j

[vocal marten]

LMAO

[sand saddle]

||oh he uses multiple giant impacts zamn||

||Its very aura farming and doesn't actually make it any harder to dodge b/c they swing within like half a second of each other||

[dapper maple]

||honestly its kinda impressive to me that we got this much characterization for an in universe singer that was just credited as singing a single song in game a few years ago||

[glass citrus]

||kinda wonder if it's possible backport some of patterns from ucz ex ver. of chaos elfilis into switch 1 base game... ||

[leaden granite]

||DO NOT BACKPORT THE LEONGAR SUMMON TO SWITCH 1 (it will blow up)||

[sand saddle]

Probably a lot of things if we could see the switch 2 code but not without it

[strong furnace]

||Oh I did NOT see this before||

[sand saddle]

||I mean there are probably some modders who could probably replicate a lot of things just by concept alone but still||

[dire ledge]

||the crystals stuck you in place if you get even in midair||

you get hit by both if you don't avoid the ||Crystals||

[sand saddle]

||Oh yea the other things he does during giant impact are more dangerous
But having two of the giants themselves really doesn't change anything
Oh they both damage you if you're crystalized? I guess you don't get iframes if you're crystalized then? Cool||

[dire ledge]

yeah the ||Crystal Icicles|| put you into a ||Crystal|| and thats why ||Lord of Chaos spams them so much||

[dapper maple]

also i havent uh, actually played SCW so i gotta ask
||what exactly is the "prophecy" mentioned in the figures for Twinkling Star Showers||

[sand saddle]

||A prophecy that a meteor will fall with the power to destroy a planet
Elfilis and the SCW final boss were the meteors||

[dire ledge]

||Meteor Shower of Darkness = Continetns Sink and Life Extinct
BUT
If Meteor Shower of Dark and Light, there is a chance to prevent cataclysm||

[dapper maple]

||so is the reason the people left the new world not because "haha we can" but to avoid this disaster outright?||

[dire ledge]

basically

didnt go well for them if ||the theory that they went to Halcandra is right||

[dapper maple]

||is that supposed to mean the starries were the chance to prevent?||

[sand saddle]

||I mean if they are the halcandran ancients the master crown would've been made whether they left or not assuming Genwel didn't wipe them out first||

||Oh you pay starry coins to retry ZEX||

[tender kernel]

||yeah, seems bit more brutal considering it's harder to grind for them||

[dire ledge]

||Yeah its give up or bust out the gambling money||

[dire ledge]

||Supposedly yeah, I find it strange that it parallels Void Termina's role in KSA though||

[tender kernel]

||and yeah the fact if you're going for 100% you need them for figures lol||

[dire ledge]

my headcanon says the ||prophecy has a non-zero chance of applying to more things, not just elfilis species||

theres also ||K64 is also somewhat a meteor shower of dark and light kind of. ykwim||

[tiny swallow]

I am in perpetual hope that someone transcribed TWINKLING STAR SHOWERS

[dire ledge]

?

the ||FL font text is just the english text||

[tiny swallow]

Well, i mean the SUNG lyrics.

[dire ledge]

nah

not reliable

[tiny swallow]

TFYM NOT RELIABLE?

[dire ledge]

someone tried that with Welcome to the New World and ||apaprently they were very inaccurate compared to teh official lyrics that came later||

[tiny swallow]

oh

well, maybe we could get the official transcription, mayhaps? one day?

[dire ledge]

evenshually

[tender kernel]

||yeah it is hellish to figure out what the singing is by ear lol, I had got few parts vaguely but not much||

||anyway I'm mostly hoping for another smaller soundtrack release with booklet||

[sand saddle]

||OH Storm Tornado can hit Chaos Elfilis during the boss summons with the drop stars||

[tender kernel]

||which would definitely give them (+maybe for Last Song too which isn't sung ingame at all?)||

[sand saddle]

||Also it kinda feels like Storm Tornado's better at taking Chaos Elfilis core's bits than before because they have more health||

[dire ledge]

oh the ||hitbox is just high up then||

[sand saddle]

||At least I'm pretty sure Chaos Elfilis' bits have more health I noticed that in an earlier fight
And then I noticed Storm Tornado looked like it was grabbing the bits better and I was like 'huh did they fix storm tornado to grab the bits better' and then realized that was probably a natural consequence of the bits having more health||

[sand saddle]

||Chaos Elfilis is on screen just high up||

[silk lily]

SCW Spoilers///

I actually hate it here. If I didn't already know I would have been pissed thank God I watched a playthrough.

Be safe out there my fellow Youtubers ❤️

[empty osprey]

What video was it?

[glass citrus]

hey james
also really unfortunate that happened...

[silk lily]

Pretty sure it was my "Road To The Star Crossed World" edit

[weary patrol]

One of the best DLCS I’ve played
Just got through the ocean area and I’m already blown away by how fun this is. I love Forgotten Land level design and how it introduces its missions at the start of a level. So fun man

[silk lily]

||which is now super outdated||

[elder ice]

Ok if there really is gonna be a gk fight in the future

What kind of attacks will hal whip out

[sand saddle]

||Ranger can also definitely hit him during this attack
Cutter can too but most people aren't gonna think of that||

||Rest of the abilities nah||

[tiny swallow]

• ||lance||
• ||more lance||
• ||even more lance||

[sand saddle]

||Maybe spring breeze star bullets could home up toward it tbh||

[weary patrol]

I think some form of a lance charge all around the arena would be sick.

Lowkey maybe even giving him stuff like the “gun lance from monster hunter

[elder ice]

Galacta has an attack where uses void termina’s bow and arrow

[haughty nexus]

|| morpho forgo soul attack? ||

[elder ice]

If anyone beaten ultimate cup ex can they record the music in the waddle live corner

[sand saddle]

||Oh yea the homing ghosts should definitely reach him too||

||Homing ghosts actually getting more uses moment||

[haughty nexus]

|| homing ghost is my goat it’s always useful||

[sand saddle]

||Also I noticed something last night in yukkuri's stream but wasn't sure what exactly it is
Splash Roche now cuts to a different position before continuing to follow you like three times during the attack now||

[elder ice]

Can anyone do this

[sand saddle]

||Oh getting hit by Elfilis's crystal projectiles doesn't crystalize you||

||The crystal icicle looking things that hit the ground with a lightning bolt and then spawns a crystal chunk on the floor
I assume the crystal chunk does crystalize you but the actual crystal icicle thing doesn't||

||Oh wait they don't always make thunder I guess there might be different variants maybe the ones that don't make thunder during Giant Impact do crystalize you idk||

[weary patrol]

I love using the homo ghosts in fights sometimes I try to get through a full fight just using them lol

[sand saddle]

||But like these ones don't crystalize for example||

[weary patrol]

I MEAN HOMING

Catastrophic typo

[sand saddle]

||Ok crystal spikes on the ground don't crystalize either||

||Also i noticed those crystals spin around the spear when they do rosen bridge edge, I wonder if that makes the hitbox bigger or if its just for visual coolness||

||Ok if you stay in the sunlight for about a full second you start taking gradual damage without knockback
It stops the moment you step back into shadow and needs the full second again before it starts damaging you again if you step back out||

||Also it looks like the sunlight doesn't ignore dodge invincibility so morpho knight can just spam dodges outside the crystal shade and be just fine||

I'm not certain though this person wasn't trying to do that

||I wonder if there's any ability that would be able to hit all four para matter back in time||

||Probably not, maybe some version of Tornado if any?||

||I mean if you brought crash all that way then yea||

[hollow heart]

could the soundtrack be rippable? you can update to sw2 games even on a sw1 iirc they just don’t run that version

[sand saddle]

||They're on the same version number but they're not actually the same files||

[neon bison]

😭

[paper spade]

|| starries do suck ass at their job, I assume if you pointed in the opposite direction and said "look, birdies!". They would all simultaneously look at the same time and forgot that they were sealing away an evil incarnation and get juked ||

[hollow heart]

hm

i wish they just waited to release the soundtrack album lol

Ijust beat it and im reeling. ||is the implication that fecto elfilis is this universe’s void?? or something? I know that’s Been a theory for a while||

[sand saddle]

||OH I WAS WONDERING IF THEY JUST FULLY REPLACED DEADLY SUN
BUT CLASSIC DEADLY SUN'S STILL HERE||

[tender kernel]

||mentioning, has anyone tried to dupe Chaos Elfilis yet (either version)? wonder if it still works or not||

||guessing not though since it was a more well-known glitch||

[hollow heart]

is the hammer glitch patched? seen mixed responses on that

[tender kernel]

almost certainly yeah

[sand saddle]

||Oh wait I wasn't paying attention but the retry cost isn't doubling its doing something else||

||Went 100 200 300 500 700 looks like||

||So maybe the increase only doubles every other retry for ZEX||

[sand saddle]

||Also this still spawned 3 crystals, one crystal spawned that useless platform on the right, the other spawned the first 3 steps, the third crystal spawned the fourth step||

[leaden granite]

||retry also cost starry coin?||

[sand saddle]

||So like
2 of the 3 crystals were useless? B/c you definitely don't need that fourth step if you just hover from the height of that third step right?||

[sand saddle]

yea

Also this game is fucking UNPLAYABLE WORST DLC EVER ||they forgot to replace the debris model when elfilis passes by the crystal pillars break into the debris from the regular version ofthe attack||

||Hm actually it kinda looks like you need to hover even on the highest pillar the game spawned? Idk maybe
Still think you'd probably be fine if you hovered from the top of the first three pillars that one crystal spawned||

[random gust]

||prophecy of darkness and light, two worlds...||

by the way about ||neichel's unfinished track, is that ishikawa?||

||since the deedly dees sing magenta||

[elder ice]

Holy shit

[tender kernel]

||no it's Kato||

[random gust]

oh a new person?

[tender kernel]

||not new, in RtDL DX's credits too (but probably didn't do any music), this game is their first real work though yeah (and they're one of the two Lead Sounds too)||

||anyway Ishikawa's more pinkish red, Kato's are purple (different note shape too)||

[tender kernel]

||also just to show the latter part||

[hollow heart]

||the music choices in ZEX are so funny? Like Voids theme jumpscare for morpho just because they can||

very star allies core to do that

[tender kernel]

||tbf Morpho already had a bit of weird Void connections lmao (and also had concept art of its sword as more Master Crown-like, which is interesting too)||

[mental osprey]

||Hearing them reuse music was so jarring lmao||

||I mean I welcome it but like wow alright||

[tender kernel]

||little weird at first but I'm here for it yeah||

||Magolor Epilogue music for Leon my beloved||

[mental osprey]

||God I really hope some rips the ZEX battle themes and lobby music soon…||

[torpid locust]

Huh

[past cobalt]

@ subsandwich

[tender kernel]

||did you not look at Ultimate Cup Z EX stuff yet lol||

[twilit mural]

this is beautiful

|| neichel as one of those desktop buddies ||

[torpid locust]

I haven’t

[elder ice]

||this is a lot lighter compared to the jokes abt neichel’s body being stuck in the lor||

[crude copper]

||this lil drawing made me realize that i miss taranza. i hope we will see him in air riders soon||

[hollow heart]

||wtf you still fight elfilis after new one?|| <-zex

scary

[digital trench]

||You would think magolor would come to Susie to troubleshoot tech issues lol||

[crude copper]

||its not just any elfilis, its the lord (or god in japan) of chaos elfilis||

[digital trench]

||Can anyone explain to me the "Neichel is the lor starcutter" theory?||

[crude copper]

||tl;dr lyrics of the last unfinished song she wrote are blatantly written from Lor's POV and through out it Lor's beeps and boops are heard||

||there's might be more evidence but i forgor||

[tidal zinc]

||who the heck is neichel||

[tender kernel]

||and either way there's definitely lot of Magolor/Lor-related connections in there lol (and SCW in general for latter obviously)||

[crude copper]

||in-universe singer who is behind welcome to the new world and new vocal songs for the dlc||

[hollow heart]

Oh my god

hi klu

[crude copper]

hi abby

shit's crazy

are u caught up with ||neichel lore||

[hollow heart]

mostly. ||what the fuck do you mean she became a ship||

[crude copper]

||either that or her consciousness was copied as AI for the ship. either way. interesting!||

[hollow heart]

that retry cost is really harsh it feels like

makes sense

[elder ice]

||I think the lor’s ai not being neichel but a replica makes more sense to me||

[hollow heart]

I acidentallt spat out my ability which is way too easy to do in this one and now can’t retry…. Been playing literally all day so I’ll stop

[shy dock]

It's interesting how ||Meteon doesn't use Mitosis. He doesn't need to regenerate; he needs to beat. Kirby. UP.||

[shy dock]

And that friends is why I play with Auto Swallow on

[crude copper]

still remember thinking, what the hell, is this edited, the first time i watched ZEX stream and this came up

||possibly the fakest looking thing in the whole dlc||

[vapid pawn]

literally

||the small s makes it look even faker LOL||

[slim bone]

||Do we have a whole thing written about the Neichel is Lor theory? Curious to see what's been fully said about it.||

[hollow heart]

god if they made this as a switch 2 dlc can you even imagine how insane a full game made for it will be

[crude copper]

well

according to credits

the staff that worked on dlc is a fraction of what worked on the main game

so. yeah

insane things are being cooked up

[hollow heart]

like bananza vs odyssey credits…………

[crude copper]

notably the original director and art director are absent and only mentioned in special thanks

which are biggest signs that something bigger is brewing

[hollow heart]

incredible thing they made here considerijg tgat

[mental osprey]

Man this and Bananza are so funny ||first few final bosses on Switch 2 are King K. Rool and Elfilis’ big bro|| (Bananza spoilers)

[hollow heart]

||and they’re both in the planet core||

i think

[mental osprey]

||Ong||

[crude copper]

HAL people are talented :)

[tender kernel]

||I got something even funnier, they don't even use 'Kirby of the Stars' here in JP LMAO, localization team just did that||

[crude copper]

and kumazaki oversaw everything as per usual of course

so that probably helped

[crude copper]

????????????????????????? LMAO

[hollow heart]

||that does say hoshi no kirby||

[tender kernel]

||JP just calls him 'hero of the stars' here lol||

[crude copper]

||DID THEY DO THIS ON PURPOSE THIS IS PHRASED LIKE ONE OF THOSE "this is really X" memes||

[hollow heart]

or not

[crude copper]

i guess this reinforces that ||kirby of the stars is here to stay lol||

[hollow heart]

imnot that good at this yet

lol

[tender kernel]

||Kirby in JP is spelt カービィ for reference, ヒーロー is 'hero'||

||this just says 'hero of the stars' lol||

[hollow heart]

Yeah i fucjed up

katakana moment

[crude copper]

its okay japanese is hard

[iron shard]

||guys i tried pronouncing the final boss's name and the furniture started flying is it normal||

[hollow heart]

i guess my only quibble with this is that it doesn’t seem like there’s multiple languages of the main theme. only kirbish

maybe later

[tender kernel]

||base FL was like that too (also it's new world language)||

||and lyrics are localized anyway||

[hollow heart]

i feel like base had englishdidjt it?

[tender kernel]

no

[hollow heart]

wtf

could’ve sworn it was in the credits or something

[glossy cedar]

lowkey in the next kirby game can the antagonist be a little gremlin member of kirby’s species ||that later gets absolutely sent flying by galacta knight who then hijacks the plot and heads to a certain area in an attempt to find a wish-granting entity||

[tender kernel]

||only vocally localized song was Eternal Echo||

||Welcome to the New World did get a JP version through Music Fest, and then later the soundtrack, but it's never been ingame||

[hollow heart]

maybe im being Mandela effect

yeah must be getting mixed up with eternal echo

[crude copper]

japanese version for the original theme does exist but only after the soundtrack release

i assume the same is gonna happen with the new song

[hollow heart]

ive listened to the jp version a lot so somewhere along the way just got brain tricked.

[crude copper]

kinya shumazaki's tricks...

[hollow heart]

i wish they waited to release the ost after this came out

makes me wonder how planned the dlc was

cos that’s called the complete soundtrack and isnt. though only really a problem for uploaders

[crude copper]

i assume they might do some combo release with RTDX soundtrack

since that didnt get a release yet

[hollow heart]

thatd be interesting. ||with the implications.||

[tender kernel]

tbf I think this has more than enough to be its own release anyway at least

even if a smaller one

[hollow heart]

has like 35ish? tracks? i think

a good Single Disc

[tender kernel]

||55||

[hollow heart]

Wtf

[tender kernel]

||keep in mind some are reused, but still lol||

also 'Complete Soundtrack' was never really 'complete' to begin with arguably
(where is my soundscapes smh)

[hollow heart]

at least u got to a place that reaches the stars

aka peak

and the beasts prey.

[tender kernel]

like I'm still surprised that not even Point of Arrival's birdsong or Lab Discovera's world map ambience was there

I really like the latter theme
at least it's easy to listen to ingame lol

[hollow heart]

https://youtu.be/W_jd_Rb9rE4?si=ntOo4K53-RDuLbXH

So funny to include this

[tender kernel]

tbf that one is ingame too iirc?

and it is still an obvious song

(also I really like it going with The One Who Controls the World)

[thorn sleet]

Beat the EX cup

Anyone know how to farm star coins efficiently

[crude copper]

||HAL room is apparently a good spot to farm coins||

[slim bone]

||^^It is!||

[hearty eagle]

||I need both uczex themes in my veins immediately||

[thorn sleet]

||O where is that||

[neon bison]

check pins

[runic moat]

Meteoric Beast Battle is so awesome

The guitar kicks absolute ass

[wise hinge]

||I wonder what was the localization doing to actually get the "Kirby of the Stars" title get in for real in English lol||

||I never thought we'd actually see the day this finally happened||

[vapid pawn]

HUH

[wise hinge]

||what the actual FUCK||

[strange falcon]

||Does anyone have that image that says always roll for galacta knight its really funny||

[analog sequoia]

Just 100% SCW

I'm finally finished

[strange falcon]

I saw it like once last night in the server and now idk where it is

[strange falcon]

Congrats!

[empty osprey]

Lmfao ||kirby of the stars was really funny tho||

[strange falcon]

I FOUND IT NVM now going to send to my gf to torment her because she was a ||galacta knight truther for the final boss||

[hollow heart]

||i was too seeing them be calles fuckimg Galactals||

[scenic needle]

that's a little unfair though isnt it

and tbf at least ||GK got something||

also apparently scw removes hammer glitch

even though the scw compatability patch didn't

[sweet isle]

honestly thats fine by me

never abused that glitch

[tender kernel]

I mean you can also downgrade if needed anyway

though it seems Switch 2 Editions aren't actually Virtual Game Cards unlike DLC so method is slightly more annoying but can still do it

[sweet isle]

real talk i still dont like the virtual game card concept

[tender kernel]

only thing I like it for is more easily removing DLC if you really wanted to lol
that's about it

[honest hamlet]

I'm going around mopping up Starries rn I gotta replay basically every level lollll

[scenic needle]

anyways ||what are the odds the all starries figure isnt about galacta knight||

i'd say ||rather low tbh||

[strange falcon]

Wym unfair?

[pulsar elm]

You can also still ||trade Rare Stones for new figures if you have any of those left.||

[scenic needle]

being a bit overly cruel

[scenic needle]

hello

[strange falcon]

It's all just fun and games, man. She knows I'm just joking around 😭😭

She got a good laugh out of it because she loves the deltarune equivalent of it

[tender kernel]

||oh that's nice, more useful if you already have them stocked up though||

[thorn sleet]

Oh good point

[neon bison]

well do you

[scenic needle]

hello

[neon bison]

[thorn sleet]

Sure do

[scenic needle]

is there any chance the all starries figure ||is talking about genwel and not galacta||

[sweet isle]

hang on ||does anyone has the starries figurine picture?||

||cuz im certain it refers to both, as in they seal any great danger to the universe, and both genwel and galacta fits this quota||

[scenic needle]

i know but i've seen people claim it can't be galacta because "he's not the main focus"

[sweet isle]

||it's talking in past, and genwel was JUST sealed||

||do its def. galacta in my eyes||

[sand saddle]

||OH MY GOD THE CHAOS ELFILIS DROP STAR GLITCH
LEONGAR NOW HAS IT TOO?????||

[scenic needle]

what drop glitch

[sand saddle]

I mean that wasn't really a spoiler anyway so I didn't need to

In base game when chaos elfilis spawned a drop star on the exact border of the invisible wall around his arena the drop star would start floating upwards

||Now leongar has it too||

[thorn sleet]

Ok ||what’s with this Lor Starcutter theory I keep reading||

[scenic needle]

ok

[slim bone]

||Yeah, I'm happy with all of the hints they dropped toward GK, at least that's how I see it. Who knows, maybe there will be more in the future. Can't exactly write it off, either. Folks used to say a DLC for a mainline game would never happen because HAL never did it before, but here we are!||

[scenic needle]

||basically some people think neichel (welcome to the new world singer) posesses the lor starcutter||
||I currently believe that the lor's ai personality may be based on her but is not literally her||

[thorn sleet]

||why||

[marsh terrace]

Just beat star crossed world

[sand saddle]

||Neichel sings a song about being artificial and teleporting places and hoping she doesn't meet herself||

[scenic needle]

||the final deedly dees song||

[sweet isle]

||her incomplete song has A LOT to allusion to the lor starcutter and things magolor did in the future||

[mental osprey]

||Honestly same I’m satisfied with GK getting acknowledged||
||Like yeah him not showing up is a bummer but it’s nice my guy got a shout out at least||

[neon bison]

||also white wings||

[sweet isle]

||not to mention the song while it doesnt has vocals, the "voice" has the same beeps that the lor did in rtdl||

[crude copper]

||like i said before GK has no place in this story so its totally justified that he didnt show up. at this point i feel like he deserves more fanfare than being forced into a story and setting where he doesn't belong||

[sand saddle]

||Drop Star glitch on new leongar fight||

[mental osprey]

||How is it that even when Magolor has nothing to do with FL he still has something to do with FL😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 ||

[scenic needle]

||"But here we are" dont you mean AND HERE WE ARE AND HERE WE ARE AND HERE WE ARE"||
||I saw one person hard arguing that it's just meteon and CAN'T be related to galacta||

[thorn sleet]

||wtf||

[crude copper]

||well i mean. magolor loves ancients lore and new world is the birthplace of ancients so it still fits ||

[crude copper]

yeah shit is crazy

[neon bison]

https://tenor.com/view/desperate-attention-tiktok-people-who-be-desperate-for-attention-sighing-gif-16370965302781532502

[thorn sleet]

||but the Lor starcutter was buried in Halcandra for aeons||

[crude copper]

||then there is also the fact that she was a prophet and Lor can travel through space and time...||

[crude copper]

||well how long ago do you think she died||

[slim bone]

||Agreed. Maybe there will be something else added on, sort of as an epilogue for FL that may include him, or just a sequel/prequel type of deal or something. I'd be happy with anything, but I am also happy with how they alluded to him in SCW.||

[neon bison]

||have you seen the figure of the spaceship||

[scenic needle]

||I know this but like another figure kind of implies the opposite||

[mental osprey]

||Good point but I’m still gonna kill him later||

[crude copper]

||he was alluded in a way that makes sense and they set the stage for more reveals regarding him in a natural way. i think its awesome||

[scenic needle]

||also the allusions were to a lot of halcandran things (Nova was there, I think Galacta could be there, the crown could be referenced||

||so it isnt JUST the lor||

[thorn sleet]

||just got it yeah. I guess it has visual similarities to a starcutter but idk||

[crude copper]

its always morally correct to kill magolor later

[sweet isle]

||tbf the forgotten land ppl left a loooooooooooong ago so who's to say||

[scenic needle]

||also a figure says neichel didn't go to halcandra and stayed behind||

[slim bone]

||Agreed! I'm very happy with it and how they handled it. Honestly, I'm mainly just really happy with the Starries and all, and I really hope they will be referenced in future games, or maybe play a part, somehow.||

[scenic needle]

||Implying she was never there even as the ship lay buried||

[scenic needle]

||it's a prototype ship of it||

[crude copper]

||considering how the last figurine including them talks about how they are mysterious and explains nothing. it seems like a setup for the future lol||

[pulsar nexus]

||No one can escape Magolor||

[marsh terrace]

[Finale] ||my god, the name of the final boss theme||

[thorn sleet]

||I think it’s a little weird to say that the songstress was left on earth but then ooooo suddenly she was actually a Boat and found a way to teleport into a separate dimension and get buried for eons||

[crude copper]

||i think the most reasonable explanation is that her consciousness was copied into AI of Lor||

[thorn sleet]

||like I feel like there’s a few steps missing here||

[crude copper]

||so its not her literally turning into boat but rather basically cloning her in AI form||

[pulsar nexus]

||Man I wish I was Lor /lh||

[slim bone]

||Yeah, I'm not sure why people are so eager to shutdown such ideas/theories? Hell, in another server I was in, a couple of weeks ago I mentioned how I wanted more Neichel information/lore, and this one person kept shooting it down...and now here we are. ||

[thorn sleet]

||I can somewhat get behind this take but I’m not quite sold yet||

[tender kernel]

||yeah definitely feel she's the Lor in someway, either way there's so many Lor/Magolor-related allusions it's crazy||

[slim bone]

||Agreed!! I'm holding out hope for that reason.||

[crude copper]

well theres also been all this talk about how lor has consciousness and soul that would definitely support that

[thorn sleet]

||tbf I haven’t seen the lyrics yet so maybe I’m being silly||