LEAKS for Star-Crossed World (and FL Switch 2)

[haughty nexus]

|| time to alter my kirbsona to add a floating ball of paint so I get to say it’s a voidling or something ||

[dire ledge]

||Anyway like, I still believe Genwell Meteonelfilis is somehow related to GK||

[crude copper]

i mean as much as i was not a gk believer

[torpid locust]

There has to be a better way to say that

[hoary flame]

[crude copper]

there is a lot of imagery related to GK's mask with the crystal enemies

and there is of course ||this crystal prison thing||

[hoary flame]

There… is?

[haughty nexus]

||Is elfilis a species name then? ||

[crude copper]

yeah it has the same shape

[torpid locust]

||GM?||

[dire ledge]

there are images in the pinneds

videos sorry

[hoary flame]

Oh no please no

eh whatever

I’ll be hyped anyway

I know myself too well

[crude copper]

the most obvious comparison without spoilers

[dire ledge]

|| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1408842700488441949/1408966563360411750/SPOILER_4.mov?ex=68ac529e&is=68ab011e&hm=f1c346efa455031a2f80d3952c0380959e91475e89c1a6cb3a77fb5a86f7e5f3& ||

this one is just.

[crude copper]

again i dont think gk will appear or anything but it will probably mean something

[dire ledge]

||This is why there's a GK motif||

[tender kernel]

||at most I think the crystal stuff is related rn (though again interesting when they were just subtly trying to connect it to Gem Apples last game)||

[hoary flame]

I mean that one just kinda seems like a type of star then any Galacta mask

Like it is modeled after stars

[crude copper]

fair i suppose but usually stars are drawn a bit differently in the series

[hoary flame]

Not specifically galacta’s mask

[halcyon anchor]

As an aside, this game looks just gorgeous

[torpid locust]

|| Roche Sphere…||

[crude copper]

yeah it does

[neon bison]

Pls use spoiler tags

[dire ledge]

||The damn sphere isn't the thing im pointing out 😭 ||

[torpid locust]

Switch 2 made the visuals even better

[dire ledge]

||Its a little bit weird how the Always Blue Crystals, and the Blue Boss, was chsoen to make a Pink Crystal Shell alongside having the track that people are saying has GK motif||

[torpid locust]

FL is one of the prettiest Kirby games honestly

[tender kernel]

||there is actually a good amount of four-pointed stars and the like, it's just most of them aren't as obvious or major (do wonder if should compile them into list at some point lol)||

[digital trench]

||Galacta Knight's theme being so present in the boss theme WOULD normally imply he's there, but then this is the same song to reference Castle Lololo so maybe not actually||

[dire ledge]

who is saying ||castle lololo 😭 ||

and the ||GK motif is the only time the rock organ is present actually like what||

biting people now

[tender kernel]

||funny Sectonia Flowereds, + even normal Sectonia's wings getting sparkle effect with four-pointed star stuff in phase 2||

[cursive forum]

||Me||

[crude copper]

then stop it

smh

[cursive forum]

you guys are so mean

[pulsar nexus]

||trust me, I hear roar of dedede!! /j||

[neon bison]

||i would pop off for lololo||

[pulsar nexus]

||this hints void is lolo||

[crude copper]

||dededes motif is actually impossible to hide lmao if you include it into anything its instantly noticeable. taranza's "theme" be like||

[cursive forum]

||I think I heard Battle among friends from Kirby 64 ngl||

[torpid locust]

|| I heard the hotel mario motif 😱||

/j

[austere knoll]

||it’s clearly the golden eye 64 motif||

[crude copper]

||bro gets hands and feet and starts pushing blocks and gets a castle. what a... chad???||

[hoary flame]

|| bro I heard King of Rolypoly idk what you all are on about||

[haughty nexus]

|| the fact that tomorrow is a new day is in this make me so joyous||

[dire ledge]

i can't tell if this chat is being fun or making fun sometimes\

[pulsar nexus]

||I heard drum dash deluxe version of crowned (ver 1) in this final boss, does this mean the final stage is referencing drum dash deluxe!?!??!?!?! magolor!?!??!?!?!?!||

[austere knoll]

It’s for worshipping our lord Kinya Shumazaki

[pulsar nexus]

drum dash deluxe remake!!!!

[hoary flame]

[scenic needle]

isnt the song more associated with dynablade now

[crude copper]

i try to be the most fun guy to be around

[tender kernel]

||FL also had bit of four-pointed star stuff in areas like Wondaria though just as decorations, not pointed stars specifically but there's also bit of other similar X-shaped stuff like Psycho-Crossing Leon that Leongar, Forgo Leon, and Phantom Carol use, and Maser X that Chaos Elfilis uses||

[pulsar nexus]

I associate them with wham bam rock /j

[tender kernel]

||which now that I mention it, I could totally see them play with last thing here||

[crude copper]

||i noticed x-shaped lasers, but i inferred that this is imagery associated with forgo's possession||

[neon bison]

||when are we getting pics of wham bam jewel forming from the meteor||

[pulsar nexus]

||wham bam jewel is the ZEX final boss||

[crude copper]

||galacta knight? washed. nebula? washed. dark matter? washed. void? triple washed. wham bam rock? grand comeback||

[little sonnet]

||I find it so funny how taranza just doesn't have his own theme and just steals dedede's, even in kirby clash||

[pulsar nexus]

||always bet on wham bam jewel||

[somber basalt]

||ok so i paid attention to the final boss eyeball phase intro again. I was more focused on the eyeball so only now i noticed the void termina effect on its body lmao. My genius frightens me||
||Wtf is void doing dawg i thought their next incarnation would be more positive..||

[crude copper]

||bro's whole identity is to be a shadow of some monarch 😭 i feel bad for the dude he needs to carve his own path||

[weary patrol]

||GK is surely relevant somehow since whatever we’re fighting has a close similarity to Void and we know for sure Galacta Knight fight void based on his super Kirby clash deluxe appearance, using the heart spears that once sealed Void. What I think is very VERY interesting is how many of Elfilis’ attacks almost seem like mirror versions of Galacta Knight attacks as well as how this new boss is emulating Elfilis (or is another species member?).
Watch this thing pull out Galacta Knight’s specific “Lance Beam” attack he’s been known to use as another weird allusion to him without any direct reference||

[dire ledge]

i can absolutely see ||space slash flash|| from this guy

[crude copper]

||this is another world. void exists in all dimensions but it doesnt mean that void has to be the SAME incarnation in every dimension...||

[torpid locust]

|| 2042||

[weary patrol]

Long word vomit sorry but this GK stuff is VERY VERY INTERESTING to me especially with all the supposed connections there are 😭

[crude copper]

no its completely understandable

we are all going crazy here for a reason

[neon bison]

Only 3 more days until the game is out in australia/new zealand/japan

[austere knoll]

Yeah

[pulsar nexus]

||there is multiple void, in each dimension, so the void we saw in KSA could’ve reincarnated into happy child, but the void in this specific dimension (where New World is) could be turning into something else||

[hoary flame]

I don’t like he concept of Galacta returning but if he shows up in the arena and had a full bossfight I would explode

As in happiness

[austere knoll]

||Void was influenced by Elfilis’ sheer aura||

[crude copper]

yeah yukkuri is spitting

||so this still fits||

[cursive forum]

||Why In out of all levels we can hear Welcome to Wondaria in Fa-lu-wa-a Song||

[weary patrol]

||99 percent certain that there will be some mention of “the greatest warrior who once sealed the meteor away” and nothing more but that would be enough for me||

[austere knoll]

||DOES THIS MEAN WE’LL ALWAYS BE GETTING A VOID INCARNATION FROM THIS POINT ON.||

[somber basalt]

Truth be told ||deep down i knew the final boss wasnt gonna be galacta. Had a nagging feeling that it was gonna be elfilis or whatever, which it kinda is. But i wanted to believe..||
||My cope will never stop however!! Galacta in the arena trust!!||

[dire ledge]

||Its the area in New World that relates to stars and space the most||

[weary patrol]

||every important boss is void now||

[pulsar nexus]

Spitting hairballs like Magolor

[tender kernel]

||tbf it's only for around half the song, people forget that other half is usually Floral Fields (though Clash goes with intro version and uses Green Greens instead, probably because endgame I guess)||

[rancid badge]

||I kinda hope this boss Morphs into different kind of bosses we have seen before in the past since there's like a TON a references in the boss theme||

||MORPH.... LIKE.... I explode myself||

[dire ledge]

||i feel like there's only 3 actual references||

||Song of Supplication, GK, and i forgot the third one already||

[rancid badge]

||triple deluxe 🥹||

||I pray 🙏||

[dire ledge]

||I think people mistake GK's intro with Sectonia's intro||

[somber basalt]

||i noticed a dark mind motif near the beginning of the theme but i might have been tripping||

[dire ledge]

i feel like for it to be an ||actual reference it would have just be teh actual track phrase for phrase note for note||

and the ones I can be absolutely for sure about is ||Song of Supplication and GK intro||

[rancid badge]

||I might be the only one who's tripping for triple deluxe to make a return😭||

[dire ledge]

||i dont know what would even return from Triple Deluxe, especially in this game||

||we're not in popstar or its skies||

[weary patrol]

||also in reference to the sectonia part of the song, it sounds more like the “settling a score” theme from Magolor epilogue to me which has more connections to dark matter shit and ancients stuff||

[dire ledge]

||yeah that one i think is pretty much GK's intro||

|| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1408842700488441949/1408851019793825823/SPOILER_AHAHAHAHAHA.mov?ex=68ac8fc2&is=68ab3e42&hm=d6586387d8f449c7a5a73ae7b54b3b49704da82ab5879d2cec4f961ada239b38& ||

[austere knoll]

It is

[dire ledge]

like ||there's no other reason it uses guitar for this melody||

||metal guitar doesnt really appear anywhere else in the track||

[rancid badge]

||MY EARS.||

[weary patrol]

That’s 1 to 1 oh wow

||okay no denying that LMAO that’s 100 percent Galacta’s theme in there||

[somber basalt]

Wow what a cool music track

[weary patrol]

||lowkey still don’t hear the castle lololo part in the main theme everyone is talking about. I think some of us are just experiencing music psychosis here 😭||

[dire ledge]

i dont even know what part it is

[weary patrol]

I can’t identify it properly when doing multiple listen throughs. I think that it’s a reach lol

[dire ledge]

||Like I'm super confident with GK motif being in there because the song could have have metal guitar everywhere btu instead picks it when it sounds like GK's intro melody being played||

||like instrument is intentional for this specific part||

[weary patrol]

||GK’s motif being apart of it while the weird void thing is his colors being inside a crystal with connections to light and dark and sealing evil? If Galacta Knight isn’t alluded to in figure descriptions at the very least I may be very pissed because so many things are pointing right to him having some form of relevancy||

[crude copper]

i mean tbf ||previously exclusive tdx enemies returned in this game||

[weary patrol]

||lmao what if the only reason Crystal Elfilis Void was able to even be free was because we constantly kick GK’s ass so he wasn’t able to do his job||

[dire ledge]

Its really intriguing that ||it incases itself in Pink Crystals, presumably to protect itself||

[weary patrol]

||That’s my working theory. That and Morpho Knight yoinking him from the living realm||

[dire ledge]

it means its ||the pink crystal isnt there to seal it but protect it||

||we dont know if this applies to GK but the functional difference is intriguing||

[weary patrol]

||Galacta Knight in Star Allies: GUYS YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND VOID IS REINCARNATING IN ANOTHER DIMENSION!!!
Morpho Knight: I hear your cries, so you want me to absorb you? Send you to the after life? No worries I got you 🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️||

[weary patrol]

||Presumably Galacta does that to himself from time to time because it happens after we hand his ass to him on a silver platter. I assume it’s self inflicted as a way to heal up?||

[sweet isle]

HOLY SHIT UR RIGHT

[dire ledge]

actually watching the ||Cutscene vids again||

||dude, why does it make a crystal heart again after presumably beating it?||

||does that mean it sitll has to be sealed even after it gets beat up?||

[weary patrol]

||this begs the wonderful question of what the fuck it was doing chilling in a collapsing dimension while watching the gang beat the brakes off Magolor 😭||

[weary patrol]

||it’s so there’s a lore reason as to why it pops up in the ZEX like how we have a technical lore reason for the ultimate Z Cup even happening I bet||

[crude copper]

||maybe after it "died" it reforms into one???||

[sweet isle]

||learning the gang's moves ||

[craggy wing]

I couldn't download the final bosses music for some reason can someone send me it?

[mossy gust]

Sure

[mossy gust]

Nvm, my phone doesn't seem to want to me to send it

[haughty nexus]

||my marble collection ||

[dire ledge]

||I think if KSA was the start of a new modern trilogy we could call this the Void Orb trilogy||

we just have to wait for a third game ||to follow up if its actually a trilogy of Void Orb||

[somber basalt]

Wait what

[haughty nexus]

||void trilogy + rtdldx true arena mode (insert funky kong here)||

[hearty eagle]

Wait what’s that first image, is it concept art?

[tender kernel]

||yeah for TKCD||

||Decisive Battlefield concept art||

[dire ledge]

||no it was SKC||

||its designed around the area near the Divine Terminus||

[tender kernel]

||no it is not, original Tweet mentions it being for Decisive Battlefield and there's other TKCD concept art they showed on there beforehand||

[dire ledge]

????

[haughty nexus]

WHAT

||ITS PRE STAR ALLIES???||

[pulsar nexus]

||Kumazaki: it’s a cool looking pattern||

[dire ledge]

where are these on wikirby

[haughty nexus]

||Had to find it through the codes for skc||

[pulsar nexus]

||This is why Magolor is Void Termina ||

[strong furnace]

||HUH?????||

https://tenor.com/view/chef-skinner-suprised-speeded-up-ratatouille-version2-gif-20704217

[weary patrol]

||the Kirby clash series casually breaking lore once again I see||

[dire ledge]

the fact that everyone's surprised makes me feel there's something wrong

[crude copper]

||well it would it make more cohesive than previous trilogy at least||

[tender kernel]

||https://vxtwitter.com/Kirby_JP/status/1456516723234926596 there was never a mention of them trying to redesign stuff for SKC, they just call it Decisive Battlefield design proposal, it just happens to be SKC code and all so they present it like that||

星のカービィ (@Kirby_JP)

今月のあいことばと、ハンターズプチ情報のコーナーだヨォ！
ナント、今回は大決戦のデザイン案を入手したんダ！
強者が集う決戦の地だけあって、どれもまがまがしいデザインだネェ…。
ブルブル。ボクとっても怖いヨォ！
#スーパーカービィハンターズ https://t.co/1Scpu22v3z

vxTwitter / fixvx · Nov 5, 2021, 7:00 AM

[haughty nexus]

||me when the first reveal of void could of been in fucking TKCD ||

[pulsar nexus]

||MAGOLOR||

[weary patrol]

||sure what the hell. Why not at this point||

[naive slate]

magolor casually leaking void

[tender kernel]

||keep in mind they presented stuff like https://vxtwitter.com/Kirby_JP/status/1481883834220449793 the same way despite it appearing in Art & Style Collection long beforehand and therefore even more obviously being from TKCD||

星のカービィ (@Kirby_JP)

新年1回目のあいことばダヨォ！
今回はヘビィハンマーの装備デザイン案を見せてアゲル！
左はしあわせ装備の原案カナ？
右は…ワォ！おもちをつき出しそうなウサギチャン！
コレはよろずやでも売ってナイ装備ダネ！
#スーパーカービィハンターズ https://t.co/m9RXTS7asc

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jan 14, 2022, 7:00 AM

[dire ledge]

idk man thats insane

youre telling me this ||artwork that looks like the leadup hallway to teh Divine Terminus, set in what appears to be Far Flung's space and is covered in Void orbs is before KSA's time???||

[tender kernel]

||yes lmao, that's part of what's interesting about it||

[dire ledge]

,,,,

dude we need to find the third decisive battlefield concept art

[tender kernel]

anyway, ||also find it interesting that normal Elfilis's Antares sort of has that pattern on it as well||

[dire ledge]

OH GOD.

I WAS MAKIGN THEORIES ABOUT IT AND I DIDNT EVEN NTOICE

[haughty nexus]

||void: hey kirby i turned myself into a spear, Im spear void!||

[sand saddle]

Completely unrelated but
Me looking at old messages and

Funniest message I've ever read

[weary patrol]

||somehow it always comes back to Elfilis being a Void incarnation theory||

[sand saddle]

Actually I probably should've just sent this in general but I was here so

[wheat birch]

Bruh is this why teachers ask if you have gum for the whole class

(They’re all asking for a dlc screenshot lol)

[haughty nexus]

should of got two strikes

[vocal marten]

ITS ALL CONNECTED

[pulsar nexus]

No it’s funny

Striking you for offtopic message

[vocal marten]

lore is cooking so good

The multiverse is real

It’s ALL REAL

[strong furnace]

Didn't this start like
A whole argument

Or am I thinking about something else

[sand saddle]

I have no idea and I already searched for something else so I'm too lazy to go back and look

[pulsar nexus]

Man I can’t believe Faye died

Faye was the best mod

😔

Got replaced by this person above

[edgy snow]

||me playing forgotten land when evil giga ultra zero 3 fecto termina shows up||

^ totally real spoiler

[sand saddle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/891068104367566888/1405458401915441222/diesoflightbulb.gif

[haughty nexus]

||CHAT WHATS UR FAVOURITE LEAKED MUSIC OTHER THAN THE FINAL BOSS||

[pulsar nexus]

Face reveal!!!?

[hearty eagle]

||Wastes where life began||

[sand saddle]

||I have not warmed up to the final boss theme yet it sounds like a token level theme to me right now
It took me 6000 years to warm up to Roche Limit though so maybe one day||

[strong furnace]

||The Frost Street music||

[pulsar nexus]

So basically never got it

[sand saddle]

||Yukkuri FL will be 6003 years old in 5 weeks 😭 ||

[pulsar nexus]

||Touhou like ahh music title my beloved||

[haughty nexus]

||Im split between rally raid speedway and fallen star beach||

[pulsar nexus]

👄 ⁉️

[digital trench]

||It's very brief almost exactly 1 minute in||

[sand saddle]

Feel old yet

[tender kernel]

||(just gonna guess you mean any finale-related theme instead of just final boss one just in case) 'Crystal Beast Pack Volcano Battle' and 'Moonlight Canyon Labyrinth'||

[pulsar nexus]

No I feel young

[edgy snow]

||it reads like it would have the song name appear in the screen corner like this||

oh wait i cant

attach an iamge

[pulsar nexus]

#important-information

[edgy snow]

pretend field of hopes and dreams song title appearing ingame was there

[hearty eagle]

||oh, I hear it now, but I don’t think it’s an intentional reference||

[tired lark]

The final boss theme is nice, but it kinda falls in the same nitpicks I have with Roche limit in that the song doesn't ramp up that much at phase 2

I'd say it has a more noticable issue compared to Roche limit

[edgy snow]

im so smart

[neon bison]

🗨️
:neichel:

[pulsar nexus]

||Final boss theme probably would sound better when actually fighting||

[tender kernel]

||for sure, especially since it's 3 phase fight anyway||

[digital trench]

Yeah I agree

[sand saddle]

||Oh huh I apparently did at least like roche limit even if I didn't like it as much apparently||

[tired lark]

I'm sure it will once we experience the fight, but ATM is mostly just a fine boss track

[digital trench]

||Feels kind of like it's just going through the motions in a sense||

||But not really extremely interesting motions||

[tender kernel]

||anyway took me few listens to start liking it, is definitely a slower paced song, vibes of first phase sort of remind me of modern PMD for some reason?||

[haughty nexus]

i|| mean alot of people disliked the really long themes at first like twinkling star, roche limit and now this i believe, prob because they feel empty at times||

[pulsar nexus]

||Star Dream and Magolor and Sectonia and Void smiling:||

[neon bison]

||the rtdl -> tdx -> pr trilogy is still unmatched for final boss themes imo||

[pulsar nexus]

||Cant wait to do best final boss theme poll in like few months and this song obligates for being the newest song||

[sand saddle]

||Star Dream frowning
No actually please imagine star dream frowning||

[haughty nexus]

||tho i do like the scw main theme more than forgotten lands one||

[digital trench]

||I feel like they're just going for being long songs with multiple phase-based variants instead of being very interesting||

[pulsar nexus]

Please someone make a edit of Star Dream drowning it’ll be funny

*FROWNING

[weary patrol]

||two planets and Supreme Ruler’s Coronation still mog it I fear||

[pulsar nexus]

please do not drown Magolor

*STAR DREAM

Oh my GOD

[sand saddle]

Yukkuri 😭

[digital trench]

||Like they learned all the wrong lessons from Void Termina's theme being so popular||

[weary patrol]

||recency bias be damned I’ll be a Magolor shill 10 times out of 10 LOL||

[pulsar nexus]

Literally going to explode

[tender kernel]

||(I also liked Roche Limit since very start, other than how it plays in Fecto Elfilis version of fight being bit jank)||

[sand saddle]

WAIT SPEAKING OF PFPS
BOCCHI ERA FAYE

[digital trench]

||They saw people like that and thought "Oh we need longer songs! That's what people love about it!"||

[tender kernel]

||I mean they're more just interactive songs||

[digital trench]

||And like, there's nothing WRONG with Two Planets Approach the Roche Limit, but it feels meandering||

[neon bison]

||i did also like roche limit immediately tbh, I think i need to hear the new one in context ||

[tender kernel]

||rather than actually long on their own phase-wise||

[neon bison]

||part of what makes roche limit iconic is the timing of the transition with the sky getting all fucked up and elfilis summoning meteors||

[haughty nexus]

||2:18 really does sound like PMD yeah||

[tender kernel]

||even here with Lagrange Point, for instance last phase is only 2:27 long||

[weary patrol]

||it’s very context specific as to why it’s so cool which is lowkey unfortunate since that means in a vacuum it stands out as a bloated theme. I love it but I don’t think I would as much if it was divorced from the stellar boss fight||

[sand saddle]

Wait actually this ranking is just crazy in general????
I have VS Star Dream under CROWNED???

[neon bison]

Cringe

[tender kernel]

||really I moreso wonder why it's considered same song this time when last phase has noticeable gap anyway lol||

[sand saddle]

||It was so peak||

[tired lark]

Nah the most iconic part is when they keep looping the intermission bc elfilis decided on using sol

[pulsar nexus]

Based as hell

[somber basalt]

Vs Star Dream as in Phase 1?

[weary patrol]

||crowned carried an entire generation of Kirby fans that is iconic and worthy of high placement||

[sand saddle]

yea

[somber basalt]

I learned to like crowned but under my control will forever be better im sorry

[sand saddle]

Moment

[sand saddle]

Transitions to bridge at 1:30 in the video

[vocal marten]

I think we are so dead next week 💀

[weary patrol]

||do we think there’s any abilities we just aren’t seeing yet btw? I still think a crystal one is coming based on those weird mini boss guys and the fact that every mini boss in game gives an ability||

[somber basalt]

Oh i hate this

[haughty nexus]

||new abilities, unlikely, new upgrades, more likely or at least 1 for finishing dlc maybe like forgo hammer||

[neon bison]

||nah, the only thing that's possible at this point imo is some secret ability evo you get for beating scw or something, but if it exists we haven't seen any indication of it||

[weary patrol]

||I swear there was flavor text that mentioned a new ability somewhere||

||like outside of the new mouthful modes it mentions both somewhere. Could be translation error I guess…?||

[crude copper]

i dont see why ||people expected new copy abilities from dlc. like. if it was a feature. itd be advertised to hell and back.||

like this is not something HAL would ever hide lol

they advertised new mouthfuls front and center

[tender kernel]

||because of Nintendo Treehouse error, but that's about it; I more expected new evo if anything||

[crude copper]

anyway i also want to say that i absolutely love new final boss theme

that said

[trail sluice]

so i saw the images of ||the new elfilis is form (i am not spelling all that 😭) and the roche sphere, but are there any actual videos?||

[crude copper]

i feel like final boss themes have more power with context

like, visuals, gameplay

music is amazing but it can do only so much on its own imo

[neon bison]

Only thing we have is ||cutscenes, check pins||

[crude copper]

wait

can you explain

[neon bison]

Nintendo treehouse description

The description for the yt video

[crude copper]

did it promise new abilities lol

[neon bison]

Let me see the exact text but iirc yes it said something like that lol

[crude copper]

||i guess one secret evo is something i can expect but thats about it||

[austere wharf]

oh that's awesome lol

[crude copper]

i mean

it very well may be a mistake

butttt

seems sussy

[naive slate]

||You're refering to Parastella Crystallis Genwel Meteonelfilis?||

[neon bison]

https://youtu.be/825nZJ0sPj0

[tender kernel]

||it said video showed one (it didn't), so many people thought they were slipping up about ability existing||

[crude copper]

god this game is pretty

[tired lark]

New needle ability that's just crystal needle but bigger

And blue

[crude copper]

it also allows you spindash

(basically, you become sonic)

[neon bison]

||crystallis needle||

[sand saddle]

||Smh so are we not gonna get any actual gameplay against genwel for the next two days or something smh||

[torpid locust]

|| Crystallis Spear||

[crude copper]

||unless that mysterious leaker returns or someone else leaks some more shit||

i didnt expect to get even that so you never know what happens next

[torpid locust]

I know it’ll happen soon, it’s just a matter of time

[tired lark]

Too busy getting stuck on phantom sillydillo

[strong furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/your-taking-too-long-jackenstein-its-peak-deltarune-gif-3586120190318122790

[mental osprey]

||I’ve listened to the track like fifteen times now lmao||

[crude copper]

that said, and i mean no offense to the leaker because this is still high effort

rips are kinda... quiet lol

i wish they were a bit louder so i could appreciate the music more without turning volume up to 100

[torpid locust]

|| y’know what, I think i like it better than Roche limit. I didn’t think that was possible.||

[austere wharf]

probably had their volume lowered a quite a bit </3

[naive hatch]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[rugged iris]

https://tenor.com/view/berdly-deltarune-berdly-berdly-deltarune-undertale-deltarune-gif-17278560884321908078

oops

but basically , true

[naive hatch]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[rugged iris]

dms

[full sparrow]

||i really like this part where it gets intense for a bit at the start https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx4W6CHvvt75-CXqunfY2_C3HWzRMzwdib?si=XzEQNOA1IQ0aezfV ||

||two planets approach the WASHED limit||

[rugged iris]

absolute cinema

[pastel jewel]

thats mb, i should've made the upload louder, sorry

[torpid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-mad-furious-angry-you-gif-17544095

[pastel jewel]

I'M SORRY IT SOUNDED FINE WHEN I MADE THE VIDEO I SWEAR

[dire ledge]

are you the leaker or just the youtube

[mossy gust]

WAIT YOU'RE THE PERSON THAT UPLOADED IT to YT 😭

[rancid badge]

WAIT A MIN---

[pastel jewel]

the yt guy

[rancid badge]

ITS YOU!

-# thanks for uploading the ost lmao

[full sparrow]

Comments on your video are so funny

[pastel jewel]

oh yeah they're fun to read
not a fan of people blatantly spoiling other final boss stuff in there though

[mental osprey]

I love everyone freaking out ||about the leitmotifs lmao||

[rancid badge]

fr );

[austere wharf]

😭

[hearty eagle]

The bohemian Rhapsody and the hammer comments

[somber basalt]

I havent listened to it fully. Mainly the ||galacta motif||
I want to first watch the final boss fully before the track
Final boss gameplay is 🎃 TAKING TOO LONG 🎃 to come out though

[pastel jewel]

YEAH the hammer one is probably my favourite i love it

[austere wharf]

i kinda hope we don't get gameplay b4 release
but also.

[mental osprey]

Honestly I’m satisfied with what we have

[tender kernel]

remember we were talking about this earlier but thinking about it again
||second one is probably just the credits right, feel little stupid for not thinking about it earlier lol, feels weird if it's not like main story and Forgo Dreams ones though?||

[shy dock]

Oh hey, that Sneasel one is me!
And believe me, I know the feeling - when FL was first leaking, like a dozen people asked me to DM them whether or not there were more than 12 abilities in the game

[torpid locust]

|| still can’t get over the dl3 colored explosion||

[torpid locust]

This is so good

[tender kernel]

||also this is new simple credits right? wonder if there's new music for it (would have to be late unlock if so though? so it might just use From Those Who Departed for Space again)||

||(also base game one's thumbnail looked like this in comparison for anyone wondering)||

||wish someone would get video of either of the SCW credits at least, would be nice to know who all worked on it||

[queen gyro]

Who?

[mossy gust]

(ost) ||There's a little short blip of melody played near the beginning of Planet's Cradle that I swear sounds like Green Tree Memories.....

Always back to Kirby Clash and Magolor smh...||

[rugged iris]

Cmon ||eyeball thing why are you dying in those three specific colors||

[regal pewter]

What has even been leaked for star crossed world?

[acoustic wadi]

Images of the final boss and all of the soundtracks

[regal pewter]

Oh

[tender kernel]

moreso the SCW story songs, nothing of ZEX yet (or any other potential unlockable songs)

[hearty eagle]

Check pinned for the best deets

“The best” that includes Kinya Shumazaki

[glass mortar]

I just saw all the ||cutscene videos||

||There's definitely gonna be bosses and maybe a new extra mode like the Leon soul thing?||

||how long do you think the new arena is gonna be? I can only do ultimate cup Z in 11:30 so are they gonna have all the old and new bosses or just the new ones||

[torpid locust]

|| oh yeah Leon, do you think we’ll have to fight him again||

|| bro cannot stop getting possessed||

[tender kernel]

||this is already technically our second extra mode so I don't think they'll go that far||

||at most I can imagine bonus stage||

||for ZEX, do imagine there'll be one or two new bosses (or distinct boss variants), and maybe bit of smaller boss changes||

[tired haven]

||Dedede 🤝 Leon||
||Real kings can't stop themselves from getting mind controlled/puppeted around||

[tender kernel]

||also we already know ZEX has the Forgo Dreams/Ultimate Cup Z bosses from the trailer||

[hoary flame]

|| does someone have the other images for Zero and so on exploding?||

|| I can’t find them in the chat rn but I need them for comparison||

[tender kernel]

||not until someone leaks those cutscenes||

[hoary flame]

||No no just from the games we have||

[tender kernel]

oh that

uh someone probably posted stuff earlier but I could get stuff I guess rq

[hoary flame]

Yeah because I can’t find it rn

[naive slate]

||you could check the pinned messages, it might be there||

[hoary flame]

Uh let me check

Nope

I would look for media but I can’t

[forest wigeon]

||anyone know what are the best parts of the final boss theme||

[hoary flame]

|| The part where it starts and then you can just listen||

[mossy gust]

in:#star crossed world leaks (whatever this is called) and also has:image

[hoary flame]

I can’t do it very easily

I’m on mobile

I already searched the chat

[tender kernel]

||all the bosses I can think of with even remotely similar animation, Zero's only one close in color though (but the rest of the animation doesn't seem too similar to its from that one pic)||

[hoary flame]

Thank you!

[scenic needle]

new leaks

hello

[tender kernel]

||Star Dream and Soul of Sectonia too I guess for the general light thing||

[full sparrow]

random question but with everything thats come out from these leaks ive been wondering, ||do you guys think kirby purposefully leans into the aspect of the climaxes and final bosses being completely insane compared to the rest of the game to surprise non-fans for publicity? or its just a part of the series now like anything else. because meteonelfilis is genuinely absurd even comparing it to past stuff. like they upped the ante||

[tender kernel]

||think it's moreso just that final bosses have almost always been a big deal yeah||

[forest wigeon]

||so ur saying the whole song is the good part||

[tender kernel]

||this is probably largest 'extra mode'-type finale though for sure||

[mental osprey]

||Not even Mistilteinn was this crazy lol||

[naive slate]

It's just become an established norm where the final boss has to be an eldritch horror, we'd have world war three if there was an unpossesed fat penguin for a final boss again.

[coral falcon]

Yeah I feel like it's just a series staple at this point, I mean even back in Adventure I feel like the tone (and gameplay) shift once Nightmare appears must've felt kind of crazy as an endgame sequence back then, the games have just been one-upping each other in that department since then lol

[full sparrow]

Yeah it really is just a part of the series now and something we expect but bro this is next level

[hoary flame]

Yes

[naive slate]

can't forget that it's just flat-out cool.
more games should do this.

[full sparrow]

And just a dlc too, who knows what they’re planning for the next mainline game

[coral falcon]

||OH for sure genwel is just another level of absurdity, I can't wait to see what the fight is like||

[trail sluice]

am i allowed to send links? i found a video i dont know if it has been shared

[coral falcon]

Next mainline is going to feel like the craziest one we have yet at this rate

[austere wharf]

I'm scared for the next mainline now ❤️

[hearty eagle]

I guess as long as you spoiler tag it

[mossy gust]

FINAL BOSS (drawing)
||Such a banger design, i just had to draw it||

[vocal hearth]

Might sound weird but I kinda want a silly final boss someday

not 100% silly but kinda like Marx or something

[dire ledge]

||Magolor is the only one that didnt do this||

[topaz frost]

So like did the leaker just die or something lmao

[hearty eagle]

Kumazaki personally came over to their place of residence and shot them

[dire ledge]

with a friend heart

[tender kernel]

either they don't want to share more, or they're busy probably

[torpid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-murdering-waddle-dee-with-hammer-gif-27359854

Kirby showed up personally and did this

[worthy coyote]

hey yall did smth else happen

[waxen gate]

No ´:(

I don’t know what kind of ninjas they sent but they were REALLY good at their jobs

[tender kernel]

I mean they haven't really gone for anything yet at all from what I can tell

most if not all of the reuploads of stuff are still up, and so is the original OST one

[torpid locust]

Suprised Nintendo hasn’t taken them down yet

[crude copper]

if anything wild happens while im asleep please ping me again lol

[sand saddle]

what if something spring breeze happens

[crude copper]

Kirby... I'm going wild mode, while you are, some kind of, spring breeze?

[hearty eagle]

Knowing my luck they’re probably gonna drop the full fight at 1 in the morning when I’m asleep

[torpid locust]

True

[hearty eagle]

So you guys got 2 hours left

[digital trench]

And when you wake up, the vid will be deleted already

[rancid badge]

(Final boss art plus kirby oc art)

My ocs honest reaction to the leaked boss:

-# I am keeping this hear for safe measures

[hearty eagle]

[scenic needle]

anything new came out

[sweet isle]

not yet

[dire ledge]

anything old

[vocal hearth]

me

I'm old

[mossy gust]

I'm gold!

[dire ledge]

I'm mold

[waxen gate]

I’m cold

[torpid locust]

I’m sold!

[cursive forum]

I’m Neichel

[forest wigeon]

I’m Retired

[digital trench]

That one evil ass song from return to dream land

[cursive forum]

||The final boss actually talks, wtf!||

[pulsar nexus]

good aftern-

loool no leaks

this is peaceful

[rugged iris]

where is the chaos i need mine leaks

[forest wigeon]

||wait actually||

||where u find this info||

[cursive forum]

||“Trust me Bro”||

[forest wigeon]

||https://tenor.com/view/depression-spongebob-sad-spongebob-slideshow-gif-24464361||

[indigo mulch]

Guys ||Final Boss figurine drop||

/joke

[pulsar nexus]

||beast virus aftermath||

[mental osprey]

||True||

||Shoutout to Neichel singing her damn heart out here|| (Final Boss)

[cursive forum]

||ZEX BOSS LEAK||

[elder ice]

Ok were gonma do more neichel yuri posting until new leaks drop

[cursive forum]

YES

[elder ice]

Remember that one user who shipped the dream discoveries tour guide and neichel together

It's so cute

[cursive forum]

Indeed, i think they’re a good match

[elder ice]

A hc i had is that neichel rarely shows her eyes and only shows her eyes to certain and slecific people

One of those people is her wife

[cursive forum]

I bet her eyes are beautiful

[strong furnace]

This is agonizingly peaceful

[elder ice]

I also hc that neichel once had a concert in lab discovera, but it's only reserved for her wife

[scenic needle]

anything new

[hearty eagle]

Her eyes in question:

[cursive forum]

||Maybe Genwel IS Neichel||

[rugged iris]

if my wife had those eyes i would look at them nonstop

[forest wigeon]

||This final boss looks ez asf..||

[elder ice]

Neichel once got into an accident where she was attacked by forgo and her eyes got infected

Her eyes now look like elfilis' and the reason why she covers her eyes is because she doesn't want to remind the new world of elfilis

[cursive forum]

||Your onto something! ||

[scenic needle]

based on the music names my guesses for the stages that will be starrified are
||1S-1: Arrival Point + Downtown Grassland||
||1S-2: A Trip to Alivel Mall||
||2S-1: Abandoned Beach||
||2S-2: Scale the Cement Summit||
||3S-1: Welcome To Wondaria + Invasion at the House of Horrors||
||3S-2: Wondaria Dream Parade||
||4S-1: Northeast Frost Street||
||4S-2: Windy, Freezing Seas||
||5S-1: Wastes Where Life Began||
||5S-2: Moonlight Canyon||
||6S-1: Enter the Fiery Forbidden Land||
||6S-2: The Beast Pack's Final Stand||
||Final: Genwel boss fight||

ucz ex has to have more than we know

because like
||it'd be really lame if it was just ucz but the minibosses and chaos-elfilis are replaced with bosses that will be sidegrades difficulty wise||

||there has to be something we dont know||

[cursive forum]

||That’s probably going to happen sadly||

[shy dock]

We should come up with an actual name for Tour Guide

[tender kernel]

||nah, there'll probably be one or two new bosses and/or bit of more minor boss changes||

[sweet isle]

||i think tis too early to say the new final boss is easier than chaos elfilis||

[tender kernel]

||yeah that too||

||also no sign that SCW one is gonna replace it (or equivalent) in there either||

[scenic needle]

||side-grade means equal in difficulty but in a different way||
||like how electricky dooter is a sidegrade to mr dooter ex||

[elder ice]

Tokai, it means city, to contrast neichels name meaning nature

[hearty eagle]

||if we’re going with Clay’s binary star theory what of the true final boss is a duo if Elfilis and Genwel?||

[scenic needle]

||it'd be really weird to fight two elfilises in a row||

[shy dock]

Hmm, I like that
So is it Neikai or Tochel?

[scenic needle]

||that really only works if ucz ex isnt canon||
||if it isnt canon then sure I can buy you fighting Genwel, then Chaos-Elfilis and then they DBZ fuse into something terrible||

[elder ice]

Tochel

[scenic needle]

||if it is though then idfk||
||to be fair, ultimate cup normal isn't canon, only meta cup and ucz are||

[elder ice]

We should make this idea more well known

[cursive forum]

The Neichel nation will rise

[sweet isle]

||if the ult.cup EX Z is mean to be a truer arena then the new one is probably replacingchaos elfilis at the end||

[scenic needle]

||if UCZ EX isn't canon, Genwel is the semi-final, then the final is Chaos Elfilis (possibly made harder) followed by a fusion of Genwel-Meteonelfilis and Chaos-Elfilis into something horrific||

[scenic needle]

||yeah, but HOW is the question? Replace him with Genwel (maybe with a fourth form at the end)? Buffed Chaos-Elfilis? Third Fecto-Elfilis Variant?||

[shy dock]

Adding onto my earlier language barrier idea, I like to think Neichel's language is the native language of Arrival Continent where she's from, while English is the native language in Forbidden Island where Tokai is from. And considering the hot biomes of the Forbidden Island, I'd say Tokai is probably black

[tender kernel]

||normal UCZ relied on space-time stuff, and it's the same here but with crystals so don't see any reason why it would have to be 'noncanon' either way||

||keep in mind. UCZ has Forgo Leon and Morpho Knight||

||those should not exist, but with space-time stuff they do||

[cursive forum]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-leak-patrick-plumber-tired-gif-12733093

Me rn:

[shy dock]

I always interpreted those two as "They're also Phantoms, but since Forgo was actually inside them their recollection of them is extremely strong to the point that the recreations actually resemble the originals"

[tender kernel]

||tbf that's just headcanon (and at that point might as well do similar for Crystal stuff anyway)||

||and like UCZ's whole thing is going through to 'mysterious space' anyway (another dimension has been described same way, and SCW has time-space stuff directly mentioned anyway so like)||

[cursive forum]

||Neichel’s gotta have to have some involvement in the Final Boss||

||Like her songs play in the Prescient Stirring song so there’s no way she won’t have any involvement||

[sweet isle]

idk tbh

[scenic needle]

well maybe

[strong furnace]

||Twinkling Star Showers is so divineeee I'm gonna be gushing this OST for months||

[mossy gust]

final boss ||while it's not something new (just a cutscene), we at least have a version with the music in it (also a fun surprise at the end 🤫)
https://youtu.be/ioOlRB81I-s?si=Ffzq6oH0xaMEx3nB ||

[torpid locust]

Hmmm

[pulsar nexus]

WHAT

||RICK ROLLED||

[mossy gust]

:)

[tender kernel]

||comparing Elfilis's (specifically using Chaos for reference) and Parastella's designs rn, interesting how consumed things influences them even if it's not as major as expected, but still quite a bit||
||wings on Elfilis is fluffy vs Parastella's being not, Parastella has no mane or axolotl thingys, Parastella's horns are more like Starries's and the crystal formations, etc.||

||coloration and four-pointed star symbols too obviously (already saw the former with Chaos)||

[pulsar nexus]

||I cant believe they're not magolor....||

[tender kernel]

||we already had this with music, is one cutscene we have with it rn (and in good quality in general)||

[torpid locust]

|| can’t believe the starries actually die man, they did nothing wrong ||

[tender kernel]

||I mean, nothing says this killed them, it didn't kill Forgo or Elfilin and we know cutscene after fights have crystal meteor at least iirc||

[torpid locust]

True…

[tender kernel]

||'The Planet's Cradle' also makes it feel like they're alive||

[tender kernel]

||though this is probably credits so take this as you will||

[craggy wing]

where are yall getting these pictures

[strong furnace]

From the few images/videos we have

[pulsar nexus]

kirby fans squeezing every bits of available leak

[wary lantern]

endgame question
||is elfilin still alive after everything||

[mental osprey]

||Yeah||

[wary lantern]

||good
he's a good boy||

[tender kernel]

||similar messy comparisons but with orb and transforming stuffs, to only other stuff in FL and SCW (aka mostly Elfilis and Starries/crystals)||

||oh yeah probably should have put Parastella's version of Antares in there too to compare with final form, the crystal floors, and normal Antares, also seems to have similar wavy pattern||

||wish we had better pic of it||

[mental osprey]

||Galacta has to make some sort of cameo in the final phase ||
||The motif seriously cannot be a coincidence lmaooo||

[torpid locust]

OH COME ON

[weary patrol]

Dude this shit is crazy

[tender kernel]

||I still think it is (realized Wastes That Count Time also has similar part) but this is super funny lmao||

[weary patrol]

||if he doesn’t appear physically somehow ill be shocked||

[sweet isle]

|| ||

[forest wigeon]

||i still wonder if theres a new boss||

[forest wigeon]

||probably not based off the ost titles||

[lucid heron]

||does the final boss eye appear in the new arena only or is it part of the main final boss? Is anything known about the arena?||

[tender kernel]

||leaker(s) have not reached ZEX, it is part of the main one||

[lucid heron]

Cool

[torpid locust]

|| it’s probably difficult as hell ||

[lucid heron]

||Any lore tidbits? Like gacha stuff?||

[tired lark]

they likely dont care about stuff like that

[forest wigeon]

||im so fucking scared||

[torpid locust]

|| nope, no gotchapons revealed yet.||

[tired lark]

unless they really want to milk it down b4 release day

[lucid heron]

L honestly

Lore is gonna go crazy hopefully

||i mean the name of that one song references the three body problem, right? ||

[torpid locust]

We’ll get lore eventually

[tender kernel]

||I mean they never beat Forgo Dreams (as of when they leaked stuff) in the first place||

[tender kernel]

||yeah, lot of giant impact stuff overall in general, + Panspermia||

||am very interested to see move names whenever they officially reveal those||

[lucid heron]

||Do y'all think Panspermia is a form of Void Termina? Both are wavy orbs with eyes that end worlds so.. ||

[tender kernel]

||can't really tell at all rn, Fecto Elfilis with Antares and crystal floors also have wavy stuff at least so||

[lucid heron]

Also it's crazy how the word ||sperm|| is now officially in the game, making Kirby the most mature nintendo game

Absolutely and totally, don't look to deep into that

[fleet fiber]

||dude 😭||

[tender kernel]

||Pikmin 4 also used it (and more directly), it's not the first||

[lucid heron]

||Maybe GK in arena? ||

[lucid heron]

2nd then

Honestly I like when leaks are like this and you have to try and piece together the lore

[tender kernel]

||anyway that being said, this and the pink crystal stuff is super sus, there's definitely something even if not super-direct||

[forest wigeon]

||deadass?||

||i trust you dude||

[lucid heron]

It's pink kryptonite, it will turn Superman gay

[scenic needle]

||Galactals huh||
||ok GK in UCZ EX stocks just rose today||

[lucid heron]

||before you think I'm weird, that is a real thing that exists in DC||

[austere wharf]

huh 😭

[tender kernel]

||also tbh I forgot about other Galactal stuff until they officially tweeted about it, it also has similar colors, wavy stuff, and four-pointed eye lmao||

[scenic needle]

||odd that an enemys resembes and is NAMED after GK||
and that ||genwel third form summons a purple crystal that looks like a more jagged version of GK's crystal prison||

[austere wharf]

Oh that's so fire 😭

ty 4 showing. 😭

[lucid heron]

They're turning the supermen gay!

[scenic needle]

wait

why was ||genwel sealed by the starries|| when ||fecto-elfilis was not||

[tender kernel]

||doing comparison stuff but with Galactal I guess, bored anyway||

[tender kernel]

||if it invaded same way (or started out that way), probably just didn't find it or catch it like they did with Parastella||

[scenic needle]

||why are we calling it parastella that's its subtitle||

[scenic needle]

||Galactal's unarmored form resembles Genwel but its armored form resembles Galacta Knight||

[mental osprey]

||Welcome back Astral Birth||

[tender kernel]

||easier to remember and write for me rn, people discussed this earlier (you were literally in that convo) lol||

[mental osprey]

||Also Parastella is just really tasty to say||

[scenic needle]

||I don't call fecto elfilis "ultimate"||

[tender kernel]

||expect people to use stuff like just GM, PCGM, Crystallis, Genwel, or Meteonelfilis too||

||PCGM's title is pretty unique in that it's also sort of name-ish, or like a scientific classification(?), only one in the series like this so far (only other one that gets close is French FL Morpho Knight one with Somnivore I guess)||

||anyway if people complain about me calling it this (and switching around between it and Meteonelfilis), will call it PCGM instead lmao (or (PaCr)GeMe)||

[tender kernel]

||and yeah this, is definitely my favorite part of it||

[tender kernel]

||on other hand, name is also unique in that it's a clusterfuck and hard to remember at first or spell right in general, I expect everyone to mispell this shit at first lmao||

||can't believe they finally succeeded at making 'hard to remember' English name and it had nothing to do with Partizanne||

[mental osprey]

||Considering this thing has some sort of relation to Void I can definitely see Hyness remembering this name and pissing Zan off||

[analog sequoia]

I still can't believe HAL named the final boss ||"Genwel Meteonelfilis"||

[tender kernel]

||it sounds so stupid at first, especially with the title too LMAO||

[analog sequoia]

not to mention that ||Parastella Crystallis|| is such a sick title for the final boss too

[tender kernel]

anyway probably gonna go to bed soon, sure stuff's gonna leak after I fall asleep again lmao

[mental osprey]

Aight, good night

[eager prawn]

no way they called these things ||galactals|| bro LMFAOOOOO

[hearty eagle]

Neuron activation

[elder ice]

||Galacta must appear in the game through the arena||

[eager prawn]

how I’ve been feeling this past day

[elder ice]

TOKAI AND NEICHEL YURI IS FINALLY REAL #aurora-artwork #canvas-curse

[scenic needle]

who the hell is tokai

ik who niechel is

[wide wind]

https://tenor.com/view/ウマ娘-umamusume-トウカイテイオー-tokaiteio-うまよん-gif-21239111

[elder ice]

The name i gave to the lab discovera tour guide

Last night the leaks thread derailed into talking abt neichel being a lesbian

I started the topic, before someone suggested that she has the lab discovera tour guide as her wife.

[past cobalt]

The guide is most definitely an ai

[scenic needle]

i do think it's a human but that person would have no relation to niechel

actually wait it's an ai

[past cobalt]

Automatic language detection

[scenic needle]

also "authentication code"

still surprised they didnt used the "access code" as a justifcation for a piracy trap

[past cobalt]

Also yeah no relation to neichel

[scenic needle]

like instead of activating the elevator she says "access code denied" and then gives the spiel about why pirating games is bad and then the game crashes and your file is deleted

[elder ice]

It’s mostly a joke thing

Everyone went crazy without any new leaks

[scenic needle]

im just waiting for someone else to get the game

[wary lantern]

tag this shit

[woeful dome]

Pleeease...

I need footage...

||The cutscenes aren't enough.||

I need moooreee...

[forest wigeon]

||I just wanna know how hard the final boss is||

[crude copper]

bro did they really call ||these enemies galactals. what the fuck||

[forest wigeon]

||trying so hard to reference galacta and yet not give him a fight based off the ost list||

[crude copper]

||well i suppose there is always a chance for ZEX lmao||

[pulsar nexus]

||Watch it be galactic Nova insert Triumphant return .mp3 ||

[crude copper]

||itd be a sick fight in 3d, just one problem. its too big||

[pulsar nexus]

||Nova tries to attack Kirby by slamming its face on the battle ground, only for it to explode and cause screen nuke||

[crude copper]

||this is how kirby series ends btw||

[pulsar nexus]

😭 😭 😭 😭

[crude copper]

||air riders is simply an epilogue set in limbo||

[pulsar nexus]

||Air Riders. Soaring freely, driving freely. Just like as if their souls were set freed. This teases Elfilis and Sectonia and Haltmann and many other character’s getting added in Air Riders. This is afterlife. The whatever Matter thing is actually Dark Morpho Knight Matter coming to snatch the evil souls to hell. The purgatory….||

[crude copper]

exaaaactly...

[sand saddle]

||I'm only just now drawing the connection that the way the Giant Impact dissolves away when you defeat it, leaving the core to fall to the ground is kinda similar to when Void's colossus body dissolves away after the core is launched out||

||Moment||

[crude copper]

||this shit is so void||

[sand saddle]

||Would be funny if this meant there's some creature out there that looks like void termina colossus but just
Not colossal
Like with elfilis to the Giant Impact form||

[crude copper]

||this is a creature hyness saw once and thought. holy void this is bopping. this is my vision for a perfect god body now||

[sand saddle]

||So valid of him||

[pulsar nexus]

Gonna have to make my final prediction soon for this thing oughhhhh…
I only have Magolor is Astronomer Dee as my prediction rn and that thing is more like 3 second crack theory so
||Gonna be fun possibly going in blind on the gameplay. Gonna have to try and look everywhere for possible HAL room, and also figure out which of the final boss in story/arena is the strongest…||

[scenic needle]

we don't have ||the ucz ost yet||

like cmon

there's got to be a battle theme for ucz ex

[crude copper]

||yeah something is brewing with zex.||

[scenic needle]

my guesses for ucz are mainly ||phantoms + Forgo Leon are made artificially harder via higher health and doing double damage or something, either morpho ex or galacta after forgo leon, and either genwel as the final or genwel as the second-to final ala master crown and a superpowered variant of chaos-elfilis as the last||

z-ex has me a bit excited

even if ||galacta isnt there||

though with the reveal of the crystal enemies being called GALACTAls

GK stocks are rising anew

[crude copper]

||again im not betting on galacta. but the fact that these enemies that look kinda like his mask and are called galactals||

||is sussy as fuck||

[scenic needle]

yeah i agree

also the horns look kind of like his too

also why do we need to spoil galactals that was from jp kirby twitter not the leaks

[crude copper]

true lol

[scenic needle]

like before the galactals ||i was 50/50 on it being morpho ex or galacta||
i am now ||60 GK 40 Morpho EX||

[crude copper]

||i was never a believer in morpho ex tbh||

||mainly because almost all arenas in FL are canon so if they have unique bosses they usually have some kind of justification for existing. and i dont see what would justify morpho ex's existence||

[tidal zinc]

any new stuff?

[crude copper]

nope

just some speculation based on a recent xitter post

[glass citrus]

pls galacta be real 🙏 🥺

[tired haven]

Yeah ||the fact that the Colosseum goes out of it's way to defy the traditional 'Arena/side modes are alternate stories' by being explicitly existent within the context of the main game kinda necessitates a justification for Galacta and/or Morpho EX to just show up in the Arena/New World||

[glass citrus]

||...or both could exist||

[sand saddle]

||Me staring at The Ultimate Cup||

[crude copper]

||the ultimate cup is the only one without any unique bosses so im giving it a pass||

||its just a thing that happened I Guess||

[forest wigeon]

||i just hope that secret boss is hard asf||

[crude copper]

||its probably hard||

[sand saddle]

||The thing with colosseum is that like
In actuality it doesn't do anything different compared to like say Super Star as to the story
You're just forced to acknowledge it actually exists because you physically walk to it instead of selecting it from the main menu
But the story is still 'there's a random ass colosseum somewhere where people like to fight'||

||What it does do that previous games don't is actually connect the story of the fights that actually happen to the colosseum
Where as before like the fights' story and the colosseum's story weren't linked||

[crude copper]

||i mean the ultimate cup z is kind of a true ending in the story. like. forgo dreams even sorta leaves forgo's fate open-ended and figurines acknowledge what actually happened to it||

||so i wouldnt say its the same||

||its not something inexplicable like how true arena in robobot references meta knightmare returns with its star dream soul os fight without any explanation||

[sand saddle]

||Like Soul of Sectonia's story is 'after being defeated she eats four miracle fruits to revive' which has nothing to do with the arena's story of 'there's a random colosseum somewhere where people fight'
But now chaos elfilis is 'forgo absorbs morpho knight after its defeat BUT ALSO he opens a warp portal in the colosseum'||

||And like
Its not like 'separation of fight and story' isn't completely gone in FL colosseum even if you try to discard Ultimate Cup
Like when you play arena you fight gorimondo you're suddenly back in alivel mall
There is a story reason, the game talks about how the animals are invading town and how meta knight has even fought gorimondo 30 times
So canonically you're probably fighting gorimondo in town
But gameplay wise of course they don't bother with that and you're still just being warped to where the boss fights took place and you only see the colosseum during the midboss fights and Meta Knight||

[crude copper]

i do agree

i feel like you can even justify ultimate cup, to some extent

beast pack is just having a fun rematch, obviously

what is the deal with leon who should be dying or elfilis is anyone's guess but

[sand saddle]

||Its also like
With MK cup you celebrate in Meta Knight's arena which makes sense you're in the colosseum
And with UCZ you celebrate outside the colosseum which also makes sense
But with Ultimate Cup you celebrate in Lab Discovera which is like
How did we get here
Which is another layer of 'this one is totally noncanon'||

[glass citrus]

||would be really funny if potential new cup exclusive boss/phase pulling heartless tears before dead like star dream soul OS out of nowhere... ||

[crude copper]

||yeah no one even really acknowledges it||

its just a collective dream everyone had

forgo dream, may i add

[sand saddle]

Elfilin staring at the photo of Commentator Waddle Dee at Lab Discovera: Kirby when did this happen
Kirby: When I fought Elfilis again during the colosseum cup
Elfilin: ...How did we do that his body disintegrated after the first time and he was in Forgo Dreams
Kirby: Elfilin I will send you to the fryer shut up

[forest wigeon]

||a secret phase that makes the fight completely different and soulless would be insane, like theres no cutscene but after killing it then it acts weird and it suddenly regens the hp..||

[crude copper]

i hope this will keep up being a tradition in future new mainlines

2 canon arenas and one utterly nonsensical arena

because it would be a hilarious trend

[sand saddle]

||Unironically though my headcanon used to be that Marx Soul was like
Something 'real' that happened in Kirby's dream||

||Like Kirby goes to sleep in the credits of MWW at the start, then we see him flying on a warpstar into space at the end, that's his 'dream self' going off to fight Marx Soul||

[crude copper]

||if marx ever finds out about it he would be like. DUDE YOU CANT EVER LEAVE ME ALONE EVEN WHEN YOURE ASLEEP||

[tired haven]

||So basically, Kirby essentially Dream Nails Marx for no reason but to kick him while he's already down||

[sand saddle]

Guys the neurons in my brain just activated again

||Tiny void
And then Genwel's core was also tiny before it made Giant Impact||

[haughty nexus]

|| I wonder if absorbing the starries formed that void orb or it was with this elfilis in the beginning, or the starries are just apart of them from the beginning ||

[sand saddle]

Well consider this

Chat what does this mean

[hearty eagle]

||The starries suck ass at their job||

[haughty nexus]

|| Void should of absorbed the 4 spears ||

[haughty nexus]

|| Yeah? You literally collect all of them and like it still shatters like what? ||

[sand saddle]

||Beginning of the game: Meteor blows up the Starries' seal on it
Kirby: Ok we need to seal the metor by collecting the Starries to make a seal
Meteor: Blows up the Starries' seal on it
Kirby: ||

[haughty nexus]

|| I do think that there’s gonna be new content in zex cause like the cutscene shows the heart seal after the fight so like genwel might still be alive and maybe Kirby purifies it in zex like for chaos elfilis or something ||

[crude copper]

||hyness ended up like this because he was praying for void but something went wrong or smth like that, right||

[sand saddle]

||Hyness was praying to open a hole to another dimension but then he fell in the hole
And then we have a vague confusing line about how The Darkness consumed its former master||

[crude copper]

consider this. ||starries didnt create any barrier. they were basically sacrificing themselves to make a new incarnation of void possible.||

||they likely didn't know this. but this is what ended up happening||

||why did it look like elfilis? maybe because kirby and elfilin were there and this was their more intense encounter at this point so they expected SOMETHING like him||

||but there's way too many parallels to void for this to not be void imo.||

||like one-two coincidences can be just a reference but this is too much lmao||

[sand saddle]

||The darkness left its
master, transforming into a giant Jamba
Heart and swallowing him whole.
かつての
闇は 主の手から はなれ、異界の巨大なジャマハートと
なり、その意に はんし 全身を飲みこんだ！
The darkness, released from its master's grasp, became the Otherworldly Giant Jamaheart, swallowing him whole against his will!
~Translation from my mod||

[crude copper]

very interresante

||we all know what kind of darkness he was messing with in the main story so.... hm||

[haughty nexus]

||i 100% think genwel is an explanation on how void is the origin to all with panspermia and all that||

[elder ice]

||I think genwell is void termina trying to make itself exist to in the new world||

[crude copper]

never forget

||void exists in all dimensions||

its one of the few concrete things we knew about it

||ik it might be a bit too early to say but if we are right and it IS just another void, itd be fucking wild. if anyone would be told there's gonna be a FL dlc with new void they wouldnt believe you||

||its borderline fanfiction tier premise. i love it||

[hearty eagle]

||Genwel: “Bravo Kirby, you’ve truly earned your reputation as a hero. Your help collecting the starries was invaluable”||

[crude copper]

😭

||okay but like starries are fucking stupid if im right. we will prevent horrors from happening! and directly contributed to horrors happening:||

[haughty nexus]

||this has to be an ancient elfilis like fecto's ancestor or something||

[crude copper]

||if starries just stayed in place and did nothing then genwel wouldn't come to life is all im saying||

[elder ice]

||Ok we need to make a bingo for the attacks genwell will have||

[haughty nexus]

||LIKE IT JUST STARTED SHATTERING ON THE SPOT LIKE IT DIDNT EVEN FALL OR ANYTHING||

[crude copper]

||starries are gonna become next meme failures in the fanbase if we are right lmao||

[haughty nexus]

||right next to taranza||

[sand saddle]

||Forgotten Land is just a clusterfuck of powerful things bitching each other
Forgo: I will fucking eat you
Butterfly: Ooh tasty forgo Morpho Knight
Forgo: what the fu- Wait tasty butterfly Chaos Elfilis

Starries: we have the power to defeat planet-destroying evil by slamming into it
Meteor: I have the power to absorb power by slamming things into me||

[crude copper]

||me if causing doom by your well-meaning actions was a competition and my opponents are starries:||

[crude copper]

right? 😭

[elder ice]

||what happened to the leaker||

[crude copper]

idk

[haughty nexus]

||also im guessing genwel originally had crystal powers aswell since like it forms that purple galacta knight crystal in the fight which is different than the blue one||

[haughty nexus]

||full speed farewell to them||

[crude copper]

||if my crack theory about this being a void that forms into galacta knight and this is galacta's origin story is right, then kumazaki is actually mad||

||the fact that it doesn't feel too implausible in the moment||

[haughty nexus]

||it would make sense with the fact that for the other galacta knight fights cause where does the crystal come from???||

[crude copper]

yeah

[haughty nexus]

||if it was galacta knight sealing themselves i could see it||

[crude copper]

||people assumed that he was sealed away in the crystal but what if he wasnt. what if this is his defense mechanism. and what actually happened is that he got sealed in space-time continuum nonsense||

[haughty nexus]

||but gosh why is this ost my favourite so far, its so dynamic||

[haughty nexus]

||also if the crystal form is one these guys makes for themselves it kinda makes sense||

[elder ice]

||So i guess there’s a level before genwel?||

[torpid locust]

|| yep, definitely.||

[strong furnace]

||This would make Void the first reoccurring mainline antagonistic force since Dark fucking Matter||

||Which also has connections with void anyways||

[crude copper]

and this is wouldnt even be without the precedent ||again. weird cameo in magolor soul fight in RTDX||

[strong furnace]

||Oh yeah those weird minibosses are called Galactals. At this rate I'd be SHOCKED if Galacta wasn't a ZEX suprise battle||

[mental osprey]

||He has to be I swear ||

||Man now I’m coping for Galacta||
||This is Fry’s fault||

[strong furnace]

||I don't really care if hes relevant or not but like. 3d Galacta fight cmoooon||

[dire ledge]

||idk if y'all really want a 4th knight fight in FL||

[strong furnace]

||IF THERE'S ANY TIME FOR IT. ITS IN THIS DLC||

[dire ledge]

but ||GK is absolutely related||

[strong furnace]

||Holy shit four cakes!!||

||Nah I get the concern but its funny||

[crude copper]

||let them let it all out. In the next game there won't be any knight fights 😌 ||

[dire ledge]

doubt it

[crude copper]

||its not impossible. There were two games in a row where there were none in the main campaign and only in extra modes. This is just a step above that||

[dire ledge]

which games were those

[crude copper]

Rtdl and tdx

No. Metal General doesn't count

[dire ledge]

||idk i count knight fights from ex modes too tbh||

||MK isnt even part of the main story in FL||

[mental osprey]

||You say that but wait until the Roaring Knight shows up………… ||

[crude copper]

||i guess you can avoid him entirely but its not exactly the same as what i was talking about. In fl there are no non canon modes aside from arguably the ultimate cup.||

||in rtdl and tdx there are no "canon" knight fights||

[dire ledge]

bestie...

Anyway I can absolutely imagine more ||Knight fights in the next game especially since Kirby is like. being popular again||

[crude copper]

I mean idk you dont have to nitpick everything i say

[crude copper]

||me when the new friend we save in the next game gets slashed and we see a mysterious figure aura farming in the distance:||

[craggy trench]

Metal General is a knight fight in my heart and thats all that matters #IHeartMetalGeneral

[crude copper]

I like metal general but his ass is not a knight

If we count every boss that has a sword as the knight fights then we will have to count sectonia and dark matter

[craggy trench]

Thats true he's a general

[dire ledge]

i still cant believe ||GK is literally what Roaring Knight is supposed to be they even slice a machine as an entrance||

[crude copper]

That said knight sectonia sounds badass

[dire ledge]

I prefer Sectonia with her rapiers than her magic staves

like idk her magic attacks are like so lame

[crude copper]

Rapiers are awesome especially since she's a dual wielder

[dire ledge]

works perfectly with the disembodied hand thing

[halcyon anchor]

Im still assimilating the fact that air riders could earn the kirby franchise money money

Not just high for kirby standards, but for nintendo games

[rugged iris]

The 2 fraudulent knights

[elder ice]

I wonder if air riders succeded

Will sakurai be down to directing more kirby games

[zenith fulcrum]

if it goes right, maybe it will dethrone forgotten land as best seller in kirby games
cuz i see some people not particularly excited for air riders in the switch 2 direct be interested after the air riders direct
and i also see some people who still don't own a switch 2 to consider buying it bc of that direct alone

[glass citrus]

i think both games sales could go even further as result thanks to air riders direct

[zenith fulcrum]

agreed

that just means more kirby fans dont you think?

[glass citrus]

tru!

[halcyon anchor]

Im really excited for the first truly switch 2 mainline game.
Especially if ifs both 3d and in pop star this time

[weary patrol]

The next Kirby game will be a 3D remake of robobot #trust #truthnuke #realleaks

[dire ledge]

|| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MLV1Z3wq6k cant wait for SCW to release and this somehow being relevant to both the Air Riders and SCW when Genwel gets revealed to the public||

[sick spade]

dm me the name of the final boss theme plz i heard it already but i need the title i hope its grandiose

[dire ledge]

|| Parastella Crystallis
Genwel Meteonelfilis ||

[sick spade]

ok just saw the name, this is peak

the final boss theme,

yes i know his name is ||genwel meteonelfilis||

cant believe they added the sectonia choir lolol
||also "the falling star now pierces through the lagrange point - sing of radiant theia" is a fire name bruh hal's cooking||

[crude copper]

Tbh i doubt it
The game will sell well but i don't see it getting even FL level sales, which is currently the highest standard for Kirby
There is competition with other racing games releasing the same year and gameplay is a bit less accessible

[cursive forum]

I’m predicting that we’re going to get more leaks today

[digital trench]

Tomorrow
At 3:00am

[strong furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-gif-26051005

[elder ice]

Ok uhh

What are we gonna talk abt now

[cursive forum]

More Neichel Yuri

[strong furnace]

||We're just gonna repeat the potential knight allegations until we know if he's in or not||

[elder ice]

YEA

Ok so

[twilit mural]

bro

[elder ice]

Tokai and Neichel live in Natural Plains in a small apartment after their marriage, with tokai having a awoofy as a pet

[twilit mural]

galacta knight's soul was shattered across time and space into the starries

[elder ice]

||Imagine after beating genwell we get a glimpse of galacta before he flies away into the arena||

[cursive forum]

If the next leaks DO happen and There’s no signs of Neichel in any of them, I’m going to be pissed

[elder ice]

Watch the tour guide being neichel’s wife actually happen

[cursive forum]

I Hope so

[elder ice]

When you 100% scw and your reward is a photo of neichel marrying a woman

[cursive forum]

There’s going to be a figurine that’s just Neichel and Tokai’s Wedding

[elder ice]

Oh god tokai is slowly becoming a character in this server

We should make art of her on twitter

[cursive forum]

Do it

[mossy bridge]

Hopefully not derailing from the SCW specific topic discussion but ||I AM SO EXCITED to learn literally anything, crumbs, holographic food lore about this creetchur||

[tidal zinc]

does he know?

[elder ice]

||tbh nothing in kirby will come close to fighting that thing||

[austere wharf]

||dude i saw those tweets n immediately thought. well how will they react to scw 😭||

[scenic needle]

||i guess but it seems to be a member of elfilis's species and gameplay wise it may be less related to void then we think||
||fecto itself resembled the mages more than void||

[analog sequoia]

final boss theme is honestly so peak

I've replayed it like so many times now

[tidal zinc]

||nothing?||

||what about the next mainline game?||

[scenic needle]

||seems odd, why would it look like elfilis and forgo if it was just void||
||it never interacted with fecto to our knowledge||
||therefore it has to, at least partially, be a new member of elfilis's species||

[scenic needle]

||the ending implies they do work thoug actually||

[scenic needle]

||I think it would anyways||

[scenic needle]

||honestly it doesnt seem like scw will be as creepy as the og game||

[tender kernel]

||saw this and was bored, so decided to compare a bunch of dark star/GeMe and Jamba Heart/Void stuff because why not, probably be good to have for reference later (definitely more I could've put on here but I ran out of room lmao)||

[scenic needle]

||wasn't the jamba heart stated to be raw darkness or something||

||also the eye orb could be akin to chaos-elfilis's core instead||
chaos elfilis's orb form should have been something new (maybe a butterfly version of fetal forgo?)

[tender kernel]

||while it's definitely seems more of an Elfilis-relative (see appearance animation and all the other shit) there is some interesting parallels going on here and do wonder what's up with that||

[tender kernel]

||yeah I already compared final form and core||

[crude copper]

||yeah it works only after we (kirby) kick its ass lol||

[glass citrus]

i think we gonna find out very soon once dlc out 🙂

[sinful echo]

||I’ve been operating under the assumption that the elfilis species, seemingly being from a different universe, probably aren’t related to Our void but might be the otherworldly equivalent to that void in that they propagate by absorbing and then copying other lifeforms||

[crude copper]

||i still feel like elfilis-like appearance might be a fake out. the crystal heart looks very similar to jamba heart just not purple. and void termina's external form is not it's true form, just the one hyness "willed" into existing.||

i might be wrong but thats something ive been thinking about today

[little sonnet]

||God, I hope this boss fight is unique and really not elfilis 3, that’s genuinely like 1 fear||

[tender kernel]

||yeah but way it absorbs stuff and the transformation animation is what gets me rn||

[crude copper]

||the one phase that might be similar is phase 1 but the rest will definitely be unique||

[tender kernel]

||but core is also present even right after the Elfilis-like transformation too so like idk what to think rn lmao (unless this is actually more general 'core' shit and Void just happens to overlap with it (or vice versa)?? but idk about that)||

[sinful echo]

||the thing that has me most convinced it’s not a fakeout is the name. we’re informed of the name via the game system, not an in-universe character, and the kirby game system hasn’t lied to or misled players before. genwel has elfilis right there in their name so I feel like that’s pretty direct confirmation of a relation||

[glass citrus]

||phase 2(?) really reminds of HR-D3 from RTDL in odd way...||

[dire ledge]

agree

[sinful echo]

||basically I don’t think it would make sense for the boss title splash screen to be messing with us and “elfilis” is pretty telling||

[halcyon anchor]

These days are soooo looonnng

[sinful echo]

||the final boss song title also feels pretty telling - the lagrange point is the point at which two celestial bodies are perfectly balanced, while theia is the hypothetical third entity that hit proto-earth and created the moon, so the title is basically saying “there were two entities in balance and then a third related entity showed up” ||

[crude copper]

||i mean.... they literally did do fake-out screens before. this is not the same of course. i see your point though||

[tender kernel]

||though it's also not helping that both crystals and normal Elfilis's Antares share the wavy pattern shit||

[crude copper]

||but this thing has such big parallels to void its kind of. what even is this||

kumazaki when i will get you

[scenic needle]

but ||there was no one trying to will a form like that into existence||
||and also it resembles fetal forgo before absorbing starries||

[scenic needle]

||it would only be elfilis 3 for the first form, phases 2 and 3 are new||

[sinful echo]

||like I said, I feel like it may be evoking void to evoke the idea that it’s an otherworldly equivalent to void. but I feel like it would go against what forgotten land’s setting is to say it’s the same thing we’ve already fought before||

[crude copper]

||i mean we kind of don't know where this thing came from in the first place so who knows. maybe someone did try to will it in this dimension||

[tender kernel]

#1408842700488441949 message ||(reposting this from earlier for some comparisons)||

[paper slate]

ultrby7457#0 - #LEAKS for Star-Crossed World (and FL Switch 2)

||similar messy comparisons but with orb and transforming stuffs, to only other stuff in FL and SCW (aka mostly Elfilis and Starries/crystals)||

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Quoted by ultrby7457#0 • [183218676760182785] · Aug 25, 2025, 2:51 AM

[halcyon anchor]

|| if chaos doesnt get replaced and we have to fight two elfilis in a row in the arena, its gonna be quite something ||

[crude copper]

||thing is that we know that void exists in all dimensions. so it doesnt matter that this world is in a different dimension/universe. a void still exists there.||

[glass citrus]

||that would gonna be gauntlet for sure... ||

[sinful echo]

||I know, I’m not talking about what’s possible in universe, I mean that as a game forgotten land was designed to present a setting alien to what kirby games have done in the past||

[halcyon anchor]

|| i just feel like having to survive chaos ball and then having a 3 phaser and possibly an extra round after would be really hard ||

[somber basalt]

Hey gang what up did the final boss fight itself leak yet or will we have to wait another day

[dire ledge]

agree again

[sinful echo]

||going “it’s void again” would lock it to the past instead of being something New. but I think it could be a new version of void or a parallel entity that operates similarly and can be used to indirectly draw conclusions about it||

[tender kernel]

still no gameplay stuff

[crude copper]

||i mean its a dlc. im not sure if it has the exact same priorities as the main game did. in the post-game they are a bit more brazen with implying connections to the larger kirby universe, i.e. morpho fight and such||

||and we almost certainly cant fight this thing until post-game||

[dire ledge]

What

[scenic needle]

||wdym elfilis was already the biggest Greater Scope Villain of the series, beyond even Void||

[dire ledge]

who told you that

[somber basalt]

Sadge
Did more footage come up other than that though

[crude copper]

logic?

[dire ledge]

||SCW can be beat before Forgo Dreams||

[crude copper]

one of the tracks that will play before the fight references lab discovera

why would that be before you even reached it

[scenic needle]

||who knows, there may be a elfilinless version||

[tender kernel]

||yes that's right before postgame||

[dire ledge]

Yeah its before

[tender kernel]

||even theater guy had beaten main story lol||

[scenic needle]

||the track doesnt use the lab speech it uses welcome to the new world||

[somber basalt]

||not quite no||

[past cobalt]

||Dude no way morpho is harder than bluelfilis||

[crude copper]

i didnt imply anything about forgo dreams

i was only talking about that the main story needs to be beaten

[tender kernel]

yeah

[scenic needle]

||caused the rise of the halcandrans outright||

[crude copper]

forgo dreams is irrelevant here

[scenic needle]

||like just, that's that||

[tender kernel]

||like would be weird if they showed you Lab Discovera shit beforehand||

[somber basalt]

||isnt void like. Creation itself||

[crude copper]

||or how the final boss's first two phases is another version of proper final boss lol||

||imagine seeing that before meeting elfilis||

[dire ledge]

||Giant Impact would be able to be fought before Chaos Elfilis in this case||

||Actually waht the fuck does that mean for the lore||

||Chaos Elfilis knows what Genwel Meteonelfilis's Giant Impact form is and emulates it||

||Its even called Giant Impact by guide book||

[sinful echo]

||I do think it would be pretty lame to go from whatever genwel is to elfilis vanilla||

[crude copper]

||i think its fine because with chaos elfilis it was just one of the attacks he could do. while here its seemingly the whole phase is like this.||

[dire ledge]

also called ||Giant Impact by the Theatre||

[tender kernel]

||Void is nothing, so it can become anything and is dyed by various things (we don't know if everything actually comes from it or not, ancients seemed to possibly think so at least though riddle could also refer to former thing)||

[sinful echo]

||giant impact is an astronomy term so I don’t know if a shared name translates to “elfilis is imitating this character” so much as “we thought this would be a funny name for a space monster being big/smashing things”||

[crude copper]

||yeah with it having 3 phases and craazy cutscenes. vanilla elfilis is cool but the sense of escalation would be messed up||

[dire ledge]

yes but like ||Chaos Elfilis makes a giant shadow projection version that resembles the second phase of Genwel's boss fight||

[sinful echo]

||if they’re the same species that could just be a thing they can Do||

[crude copper]

again

i dont think this matters

[dire ledge]

||I personally believe that they know each other||

[crude copper]

||in chaos elfilis its an attack. in genwel's case its a PHASE||

[sinful echo]

||it’s killing me to think about how elfilis was called the ultimate lifeform and then genwel is out here being 300x more radiant. bro was even more janked up from time in the lab than we thought. you are so sick||

[crude copper]

||chaos elfilis has his own twist separate from genwel||

[tender kernel]

||Genwel's seems more physical in general||

[dire ledge]

||why doesn't it matter when a whole cutscene/battle is giving a specific mention to this title, attack name, and concept||

[sinful echo]

||my evil rat who will melt if anyone looks at them too hard||

[sand saddle]

||In ZEX Genwel and Chaos will make out old man yaoi style||

||YW||

[dire ledge]

thank you

[somber basalt]

God i hope

[tender kernel]

||finally a good Kirby game||

[sinful echo]

||finally someone says it||

||before actual cutscenes were dropping and we just had the song titles I was actually wondering if the character we now know to be genwel might have someone been related to the accident that produced elfilin due to the theia thing. but that seems unlikely now||

[crude copper]

||it doesnt matter because its expanding upon smaller element from another boss fight. its not spoiling anything. if nothing else, it probably just gives it more context if genwel really is another member of the same species.||

[dire ledge]

||yes thats why im pointing it out||

[crude copper]

||but the same logic can't apply to the vanilla elfilis because their whole existence is a spoiler.||

[dire ledge]

||It's interesting how they both share these elements but executed differently and the name GIANT IMPACT is shared between both Chaos Elfilis and Genwel||

[crude copper]

||same with lab discovera stuff.||

[tidal zinc]

||wonder if Kirby can get away with showing blood again tbh||

[dire ledge]

if you make the ||blood purple enough||

[crude copper]

||yeah like in star allies lmao||

||it does have blood inside of void termina||

||novelization spells it out||

[tender kernel]

||yeah, also ESRB (and other rating systems really) barely cares about blood anyway (as long as you don't overdo it)||

||so wouldn't be issue with that either||

[tender kernel]

||also that one tip in JP hints at it being that + move name||

[dire ledge]

what does the hint say

[forest hawk]

Just checking from time to time here to see if gameplay leaked lmao

[dire ledge]

gameplay will leak in 3 days

[forest hawk]

2 days

[tender kernel]

|| https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g8v6ynH3B2lFtoXPnNC5jWxBEYl45fFPuwqERk1oXAE/edit this was Faye's translation of it (and notes about it) lol||

[crude copper]

see. star allies is a game for manly men. it has blood in it.

take that, liberals.

[tender kernel]

this is true
(I'm the most manly man, totally)

[craggy trench]

||This is kinda funny cause now I wonder, if a hypothetical DM Trilogy remake happened, would they change Zero's blood to purple for the age rating?||

[scenic needle]

||doubt it||

[crude copper]

||i think they will retain it as is||

[tender kernel]

||probably not, DL3 on Wii (U) VC was fine||

[crude copper]

it wasnt censored in any of the re-releases

[tender kernel]

yeah

[crude copper]

when they could have changed the rom

[craggy trench]

True true