#Star-Crossed World (and Forgotten Land Switch 2 Edition)
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thats the magic of Another Dimension
remember the whole like
"Forgotten Land time is dilated"
But it seems like what happens is some weird bizarro world is created when Void related objects are tampered with
And that bizarro world or worlds make some sillies based on real people and their experiences
Another Dimension has been confirmed to allow time travel (to Galacta Knight and also whatever happened with Merry Magoland).
Quirky magoland
The Black Mirror doesn't seem connected to Void, though.
Merry Magoland is basically just on future (relative to when RTDL happens) Popstar
Most likely
Mr sillay King D Mind
Were the arenas and dimensions where the Paralell bosses were fought also created by the Jamba Heart/its fragments?
The dimensions in HIAD iirc were the dark hearts combined with the negative thoughts of the actual people. Since the dark power is sourced from negative vibes
HiAD is kind of like Forgo Dreams
instead of Forgo's memories its just negative thoughts in general or something
Basically yeah
Hyness being a weirdo and singing into the void caused the rifts to open and carry the lingering bad vibes of the dark hearts and the people who came across them iirc
Really can't give you anything for Parallel Nightmare. They forgot to give him lore
Genuinely don't know how that happened unless he just decided to do nothing for Clash Deluxe so he could be the cool primary bad guy in the sequel
Theory: the Fountain of Dreams was made by the ancients with technology they got from studying Forgo. Because of that, it has dimension crossing abilities and characters who manipulate it (like Nightmare) get Paralell variants.
eh
considering the Fountain of Dreams is like
"this is how everyone gets a good sleep"
its more like Forgo's psychic aspect
like a reverse "beast pack brainwave"
Man we really... really need a dream-centric game
FoD seems to be more rooted in what the Sparkling Stars/Starries are made of
Which is at least a little similar to Elfilis's power
?
its basically just a framing device
what are you talking abut
theres very little dream-like about forgo dreams
this concept deserves a full game
imo
sure but like
this doesnt track
nothing about the Sparkling Stars seal anything
im not sure what ampether is talking about
metaknightmare, dededetour, and guest star to some extent are "dream" scenarios... but it's just the setup for an alternative playthrough
we agree on this
i just want a game where i can go to other characters dreams
the onyl thing Fountain of Dreams sealed was the fact that when it got turned off is when it sealed Nightmare
because it sounds fun and trippy and surreal
there is nothing crystalline about the Fountain of Dreams
there is nothing wish granting about the Starries
sparkling water
So this is ultra deep lore but the Kirbys adventure manual mentioned that the Star rod was made from a fallen star iirc. That obviously is vaguely similar to Starries. But Starries were subtly connected to the Sparkling Stars in the dlc as well
sparkling stars are useless
the nauts of the psychomeddler
how starries are related to them in anyway

yeah but you hve to also realize
It was confirmed the twinkling star on the tip of the Star Rod was a fragment of stardust that fell in Popstar, but the concept of the fountain is uncannily similar to Forgo's ability to possess others.
regular shooting stars still have magic
What the hell do Sparkling Stars do again... outside of enlarge?
BRB gotta consult a manual
everything in this damn series has magic
even the most regular 5 point star has magic
Nothing confirmed
.
you can't really say Starries are related to them without at least more than 1 connection
and if its 1 connection at least it has to be a good one that no one can deny
No, wait, they can summon a Starship.
In phase 3 of Meteon's battle theme they play the motif from the end of Kirbys Dream Land. Like the credits. Initially thought it was Triumphant Teturn but it's actually different. And IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT. Both Kirby and Dedede have used the Sparkling Stars to grow incredibly large. What does Meteon do? Draw all of the Starry power to become incredibly large
manual says nothing about them
Defo not a coincidence
sparkling stars are the most useless and lore irrelevant artifact in the series
and thats a fact
sure but that's less of a "theyre lore-wise the same thing" and more like "this is like the That"
I think this is a very likely theory though.
"Power source"
for what manual, for what??
like how float islands has been remixed, referenced, restructured to make new beach themes
if you are consulting english manual, worry not
its made up 💯
genuinely there's nothing concrete about Starries and Sparkling Stars
in japanese manual they are merely described as "magic treasure" with no function described
This is true but they keep referencing them in small ways
Ok in context of everything that went on in SCW, I'm not super sure how much correlation, if any, is between the Starries and the Crystal Shards from K64
It should be noted that Starships leave extra Warp Stars when the Sparkling Stars (or the energy of the fountains) get out of them.
Like the Starries seal things... but that's about it
I don't think they've elaborated on that whole "power" thing the crystal meteors do
But i gotta look back
well 1 theyre a meteor shower
2 they seal things and cast away dark evil
which is like the point
Wasn't it "secret treasure" like the Master Crown, the Sparkler etc?
Crystal Shards in Kirby 64 do not seal
thing about sparkling stars is that they have no real lore. like the most they got is that they are giga mushroom of kirby universe, i guess.
Ironically they unseal the darkness from the Queen
Hmm thats actually a unique point
im fairly certain its even a starship is just so SSU could reuse a mechanic wholesale from MWW
Crystals from Starries are supposed to encase things
It can imbue goodness into something but its not like
It ties into the Fountains of Dreams.
BLAST OF LIGHT GO AWAY DARK MATTER
in... what way?
The energy of the Fountains does the exact same thing.
i dont think its an actual artifact
??????????????///
its just a representation of energy
since when
In Milky Way Wishes.
The Starries seem to have telepathy as well. They communicate with Elfilin via brainwaves and the lyrics of Twinkling Star Showers seem to suggest they might have let the New Worlders know about the prophecy in the first place, though that's just how I interpreted some lines. They may have given Neichel her prophetic dream
Dream power...
In milkey way wishes, the stars from each planet are energy from the dream fountains on each planet
sure
finally some fountain of dreams evidence
it doesnt tie them to sparkling stars
it seems that Dreams in Kirby universe is less "wish" and more. "psychic messaging." at least in Forgotten Land's case
Wow they don't elaborate on much of the anything else the meteors did... the flowers? the roots? the ability to manifest whole geometry via bulbs? yeah no it just happens
Can someone tell me which planet has what colour star in milky way wishes
Oh, I suppose so...
I like to imagine the star ship can just appear anywhere where there is a strong amount of star energy. It just feels like it makes the most sense
yeah lets go with that
the stars of the crystal kind
what does this say about Dark Zero? (nothing
)
I mean starry flowers do create structures, but that's probably coincidental and wouldn't connect to any other thing prior...
And in Air Riders the Warp Star got a effect similar to the Friends Star, which Twinkle Star Allies/Star Allies Sparkler is an upgrade of, its name could be anlther translation of kirakiraboshi and also got called "secret treasure".
magic
(Although I'm not sure if it's capable of creating life, or this is a gameplay thing)
i give up
Sparkling stars are so funny as soon as I forget about them Kumazaki says "hold on. They're so cool please speculate"
This is important because Popstar's Fountain summons a Warp Star at the beggining of Milky Way Wishes.
i like kirby lore and all but i refuse to acknowledge importance of sparkling stars of all things
if they are relevant then just say it
i mean id ont think hes doing that either
i genuinely thing Sparkling Stars are just
Drop Stars but Powerful
Implying even Warp Stars were made by the ancients.
my humble take is that warp stars are better off without an origin story tbqh
Which would be fitting considering FL's green stars that act as keys.
So far they've been brought up vaguely for AB Void and now the Starries. Do I think they'll get anything more than "it's weird dreamy space power"... uhhh no
Or, at least, their lore from the novels.
its not even dreamy tbh
its just power
I don't think the sparkling star stuff has an end point it's just contexualizing it and evolving the idea of funny cool stars
warp stars come from the stars that's about it
Warp stars feel like just a natural part of the world that just manifest themselves with people they trust like kirby and I prefer to keep it that way. Not everything needs to be ancients related
i dont think they'll ever stray away from stars being a power thing
honestly them avoiding Stars as a collectible is like
really funny
Gears -> Sun Stones -> Code Cubes
They aren't as tied to gameplay as things like Copy Abilities, so there's no problem with their mysteries getting revealed (though that has to be done very slowly, since it's an item from the classic games).
Star(ries)
and then the ones you dont even collect
like Dark Hearts
which has a beta model that LOOKS like stars
Everything's star connected, even the collectables...
but they made them JUST hearts
and then Waddle Dees and Starries
I don't think Stars are any one thing
Warp Star probably is just a thing born from space probably plorted out by whatever universe altering super nova created Kirby
Stars can be anything thats the whole point
thats why there's so many variations of stars
theres Dark Nebula, the Sparkling Stars, Copy Ability Stars, its like
its genuinely not supposed to bne an artifact but a representation of power
Dark Nebula is an evil starry we solved the lore
not the worst theory ever
Energy Spheres: Helps you eventually traverse the ⭐Stars
Sun Stones: No ⭐shit
Code Cubes: Helps you eventually hack into ⭐Star Dream
Friend Hearts: In a game called ⭐Star Allies
Forgotten Land: You escort your rescued Waddle Dees on a Warp ⭐Star
SCW: No ⭐shit
kirby should have a game where the final boss takes place in the sun
because that's a star
Void as a concept has been realized we really have solved the lore that's why he's the Twinkling Star we did it
sure
anyway Fountain of Dreams being similar to Fecto Forgo's powers is interesting because we have a really really unstable thread where you could say the ancients built it with their knowledge of forgo or something
I think Copy Ability Stars are unconnected to the Ancients because they seem organic. Same for Dark Nebula, designed after Ability Stars to show the fact that they have Copy Ability-like attacks.
i dont even know how to respond to "they seem organic"
what does that even mean
Dark Nebula has flesh?
I mean that they are ""made"" by characters that use Copy Abilities.
Not by the ancients.
stars & hearts are the opposites of the universe
thanks

Shimomura was telling us back in 2000
you didn't listen to him!!!!
The shape theory in these are nuts
really just 1997 but ok fine then
A star has 5 sharp points going out in all directions, yet it can still be somewhat round, indicating that it is a versatile shape for both good and evil
A heart meanwhile has two round bumps as the focal point, intended to present itself more on the side of "good". But that sharp point of the bottom is a reminder that not everything is what they seem.
beta jamba heart is funny
someone on reddit dm'd me asking me how many mistranslations there truly are in kirby... for some reason...
and i realized that even star-crossed world kinda has an embarrassing amount
GGs! I am glad someone believes in this thing
i genuinely love how they did this "[number of bosses] more**?**" stuff in previous arenas despite the number actually being accurate, just so that the one in the ultimate cup z ex actually tricked me into thinking there might not have been another battle by doing the same question mark thing but with an inaccurate number
I still have no idea why SMEX did that lol
it was all planned
That was SM not SMEX
And yea it's so fucking stupid it's like 'hey last two Kirby games had an extra secret boss maybe we'll have one too? NOPE PLOT TWIST WE DO NOT HAVE MORE CONTENT HAHAAAAAA"
Really gottem
What a cool tease
What a cool fakeout
Might be a shock to new players
It literally doesn't make sense to new players either
It's literally just 'hey maybe there's more than you think... nope there isn't!'
Yeah it's strange 
You should send an angry email to Hal about this, Faye
They need to make a game that ends with There's more? or To be continued... again like every other game but then there just isn't a postgame
That would be such a cool twist
There’s less…
“See you around” solos
“Yes, I, Magolor, is personally invading your house tonight unless you pay up in SKC”
AHAHHAHH HHAHAA A A A A A A A AH H H H H HHX EHHEHEHEHEHEHE EHEHEBDJSJNE WHHWWHAA AAHAA HHEHHEHEE EHEHEHE E WASHA WWHAHABA SS
THE WAY HE SPINS
€HhjwowpnHEHEHEH
he’s so extra 💔
I’d love to see your initial reaction to Magolor epilogue
Just know I died, almost, few times
I spent 2 hours running around in tutorial stage because how cute sad Magolor was
2 hours?!
I’d ask if there’s a vod but probably not
I’d stream it
You would do that? For real?
I stream stuff all the time lol
RTDLDX, often, in the vc
I’ve been doing a lot of SCW recently
I’m planning to do a specific run that Faye mentioned
Fighting Chaos Elfilis in specific way 
In what way
Attacking only with para matter
I still don't quite understand but alright
You can attack chaos Elfilis by hitting the para matter thingy
It does like, a small damage
Exactly, the worst slop ever but it’ll be funny
Also gives me excuse to check out the attack pattern for hours
Nice
When you accomplish this I legally had 0 hand in putting this idea in your head
I smell tax evasion
This version of Star-Crossed World's Main Theme, "Twinkling Falling Stars" was only heard in this specific Direct Teaser Trailer.
Besides a brief snippet of the audio in the NS2 Home Menu showcasing the Wave Icons, the version heard in the trailer has SFX which made it originally difficult to fully get a clean rip. Since we're probably never ge...
They'd better release this someday 😔
same
Epic
This is your fault, I better get some Magolor x Kirby yuri as return
society if more of that existed
:ascension:
Mefilis gets road killed by raging Kirby’s boyfriend (Magolor)
Yooooo
Wow look nothing
They should tell me how to recreate this glitch
7 MINUTES??????
Oh LOL it is 7 min
Deedly Dees concert
they know the three most popular songs
They knew the labyrinth is genuinely the hottest song ever
WHAT

I love how you can actually delete Bandee from Dee town
Inconceivable
Now why would you go and do that
I want Galactal as my carpet
It was accident!!!!!
anyway I did originally come here to post this before I crash out due to kumazaki japanese overload
We should do a bet when Kirby twitter will post Mefilis
at least this means I'm 75% done with translation
I'm still very vaguely mad they missed or removed Moon Night and just said Moonlight again
Persona 3 Dancing in Moon Light vs Persona 3 Dancing Moon Night
Oooh wonderful
that would go so hard
but I can't spend even more money 😭
at least make it available for purchase outside of japan
I need those Mefilis and Lord of chaos attack names
Too bad this game isn’t getting datamined anytime soon
I continue to long for the day we figure out how to mod the switch 2
I Need It
I’m a greedy collector 
game keychains huh
this is the only switch 2 games i can afford 
same
A game keychain for your game keycard /j
whats yall favorite track in star crossed world
HAL room Starry ver and Neichel Unfinished Track
Lagrange point
spinning dream parade
Last song
Crystal Beak Pack something, Meteor Arrival, TWINKLING STAR SHOWERS, Last Song
Moonlight Canyon Labyrinth
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Hard question as it’s like picking my favourite child
fallen star beach & ultimate extra stars
Moonlight Canyon Labyrinth no contest
Time began
Fucking
Banger
Winter horns did make me cry though
Not joking
wastes that count time
i wonder if there's a purpose to them being openable
can they actually store game cartridges?
would be cool if so
Moonlight Canyon Labyrinth
Same here as well. God it's so good lol
Easy shoo in for the next anniversary fest
Why are you so insistent on this it’s genuinely unhealthy and overcorrection
Because I know it’s more serious than it looks
i just find it funny that powerscalers try to make insane math out of nothing while they don't actually know about some of the most insane canon information
I don’t think you find it funny
It said "speed of light" in a few attacks lol.
...and you can't know my own opinions as well as i do?
who are you to judge? are you that person? are you a mind reader?
“Actually this is an exaggeration Kirby is lower than planetary”
that is a weird reply sorry
are you Forgo irl?
No but I saw RHV unironically argue Kirby would lose to opponents he would obviously beat and probably rofl stomp
when?
Omnidroid
what
oh
i actually literally said that he could beat one of those with the right circumstances, but can also be beaten by it in the right circumstances
And that’s a massive underplay
because that is how 99.999% of fictional battle match-ups work
pretty much every character can beat every other character in the right circumstance and vice versa
especially with Kirby, Kirby literally depends on it even in-universe
since his whole thing is abilities
that's how kirby can beat a combination of some of the most powerful beings in his universe without ability while still being able to lose to bronto burt
it's not just black and white of "x is stronger than y, so x will always beat y"
contrary to what some powerscalers would want you to believe
this is the type of series where possibilities are embraced, there is no 'right answer' for something like this
A planetary minimum character will beat a city level character
as stan lee once said
"The person who'd win in a fight is the person that the script writer wants to win."
Yes
But there’s a point where it stops being believable
this is exactly the "x is stronger than y so x will always beat y" thing i just pointed out is almost never true
(this is also the type of series where everything is parallels, confounding things further (+ many different continuities for adaptations as well))
This isn’t the actual story this is a who would win scenario
and there's no right answer to saying who would win 99.999% of the time
because it depends on the story
Yes there is
not on a linear scale
who would win
Gordo or Magolor
Magolor
there are scenarios where magolor runs into gordo too many times and loses
He literally throws Gordos and kills them
bam, not a black and white "x character wins because x character is stronger"
the true winner is the author because he decides who wins or loses
yup
but what if he isn't phase 2 Magolor
Play the Magolor fight again
this is why i cant take powerscaler debates seriously. like people can do whatever they want but people are like "oh this character sucks and weak and he won't win shit" well if author decides so he will win whatever
and what if the Gordos respawn
We’re assuming all everything
in kirby powerscaling is particularly meaningless because are you telling me parasol waddle dee is as powerful as some of the more renowned fighters in the universe?
go play kirby star allies as magolor and run into a gordo twenty times
that is a scenario where gordo wins
therefore magolor doesn't "beat gordo", there are scenarios where he does and scenarios where he doesn't
like its not meant to be taken so seriously
It just comes off as you not wanting to admit Kirby is strong
the only thing you could possibly try to calculate is the likelyhood of a certain character winning
but you'd have to take into account every single scenario, from location, to backstory, to what forms of characters and what their motivations are
This is beyond who would win ism this is “I can’t admit Kirby has actual strength”
kirby is strong
kirby is strong but he is not that special in his own series and in general
i've said this many times
Deflection
i've just more often said that kirby isn't as strong as people make him out to be
I mean, I think it's cool that some of the most basic characters can be strong
but lot of people miss that it goes for everybody
because people say he's like the objectively strongest video game character of all time and that is just annoying
im not saying that parasol waddle dee being able to beat literal god of destruction is bad! i think its funny and kind of cool
but it just goes to show that kirby cast is full of abnormally strong people lol
He’s not that strong but he’s like
yeah lol
Uni level seems fair
Sure
Why?
don't forget Megaton Punch/Gigaton Punch (Crackity Hack) where everyone can just crack the ground
But you rhv seem to want planet or lower level
what the heck is your definition of "not that strong"
Chaos Elfilis
Multiversal or omnipotent
What does that fight have to do with Kirby being uni level?
???
but no, i don't want him to be any "level" because there are no "levels" to strength
Chaos Elfilis is likely uni level and Kirby can beat them without help
it's not a black and white scale of a single line from "ant level" to "hyperversal+++++ level"
wdym
there's nuance. there's different strengths and weaknesses every single character (and real person) has
But why is Chaos Elfilis considered uni level?
chaos elfilis actually went to community college
I mean by this logic so can BWD (baring needing to Mouthful to start Core phase)
it's not a fucking video game where every character can level up or go from F to S tier
i blame dragon ball z english fanbase personally
this is where "uni level" shit came from
Tuition ain't cheap in the new world
this is true, this is why Elfilis is so smart
MFW saying someone going to community college instead of uni is supposed to be an insult
strength is way more complex than most powerscalers make it out to be and it's genuinely disappointing when i see people make it out to be nothing more than "my guy is stronger than your guy because this website says he's a higher level"
i'm gonna go eat now bye
But it's been explained in interviews that, in Dragon Ball, characters with lower power levels can win.
Hope they got a good study group
oh is it? you can tell I've never been to either...
though that probably fits more lol
It’s all a deflection for a contrarian complex
Like that is unironically the vibe I get
That you are tired of people thinking Kirby is strong and thus think Kirby is AS WEAK AS POSSIBLE out of spite
what
That’s a bit harsh
no one ever implied that lmao
even in all of my years, I've never said anything like that
could you please stop trying to make up beliefs that i don't have
Methinks RHV is trying to imply that Kirby has both strengths and weaknesses
as does literally everyone and everything ever
except dale, dale has no flaws
What the hell is going on in here
Elfilis Community College
The original was Hyness community college
.
when will they make Meteonelfilis Community College
It’s not about putting words in your mouth, it’s about the vibes I get
Elfilis killed Hyness and made this community college his own
Why only ever bring up weaknesses and argue against every Kirby strength argument
dbz fans dont care. they want power level numbers go up and if someone with low power levels wins they consider it illogical
That’s all I’ve seen RHV do again and again and again
Like I’m sorry but
can confirm, this is why Dale barely ever appears, too perfect to need more appearences
That comes off less as a reality check and more like spite
I am sorry in turn for being spiteful on Reddit in response to my belief
I think it’s best for you to leave RHV alone and move on
Yeah this is getting way too heated
the real reason GCN never released is they thought the world would never recover from Dale's greatness in a main series game
Alright
I’ll stop
Sorry about that
actually dale's flaw is precisely not appearing in any mainline game
I just get really heated at times
is he so narcissistic he thinks he's too good for other enemies?
Dale should’ve been a boss in SCW
HAL didn’t add Dale because he would’ve destroyed Mefilis
Nah they didn’t add dale because he gives light
/j
perfect specimen
no wonder he's the final boss of kirby air riders
Not exactly a fan
Star crossed worlds was great but I don't think it needed to be 20 dollars
They gave us mag epilogue+ merry magoland for free. I think star crossed world is larger but it could still be free or at minimum 5
I think the 60 FPS is doing a lot of heavy lifting
Woah that was a month ago
..I just realized
I wish discord wouldn't put me in the chat a MONTH ago instead of where it is CURRENTLY
Supposedly textures were High-Res too, but...
When's Kirby Kart coming out?
Bro why does every picture of whispy in riders look worse and worse
Honestly SCW is in a weird place where it's DLC, but also not really? If you already had the game, then yeah it acts like DLC because you're just getting this addition. But it's really the Switch 2 version, where they added some extra stuff because HAL is just like that
maybe it's cause i mirrored this one
is it in the middle of a hit animation why are its eyes o0
Magoland and Epilogue was $20 minimum, if not talking about the fact it's part of a $60 remake you buy seperately from the original
actually wait was original RtDL $40 or $50 I don't remember
either way you get the point
50 I'm pretty sure
prob would've looked better if he shuts his eyes when hurt
I think gcn air ride did that for whispy
but it's been a while so idk
40 dollars was for 3DS games
seems to hit $30 now
but that's because market hehehe 
SA would be a better example of free updates, except bit of stuff was planned from the start (and some stuff announced from the start)
and it was also for the same system and not a separate one
I have a selection of nitpicks with the dlc but if I had to choose one that I think is Reasonable, I would have liked new variants of the bosses lol. Maybe they thought it would be redundant and I can see why but I do like how epilogue did it
I think like one more SCW boss would've been neat yeah
do like how ZEX's are different even if not obvious at first though
Yeah it is nice they bothered to add some ai changes
the only new boss being Elfilis 3 was kinda cringe yeah
i would say while all the levels were probably among the best in the game its still a little skimpy. honestly probably did just need a few new bosses to glue it together
dlc being created on a short notice and most big guys being busy with other projects probably didnt help the scope of this dlc, but considering all restrictions i think they did a good job
At least the starries were cute
i mean the dlc has cool lore, levels, best mouthfuls in the game arguably and fantastic soundtrack
entirely new bosses is fairly complicated thing to add and its understandable they didnt want to rehash the same bosses AGAIN with some kind of variation
not even really a few, I think just one more would be fine
lore is great dont get me wrong
like if we got shit like crystal phantom tropic woods itd be ridiculous
maybe a midway one, like a stronger Galactal-like construct
well idk if id say "Elfilis's evil brother" is great. it is funny. and everything around it is great so i can forgive it
i forgive it because its funny, it expands the universe in a cool way and was actually foreshadowed somewhat in the base game
yeah, they've never really done fully original bosses in second extra modes anyway
and Meteonelfilis has two completely original phases
i was thinking the bosses would be like super Galactal guys yeah
just like one every 4 levels
the 3 big dudes
The Master Crown was one.
Master Crown was not fully original (it is a preexisting character) even if it is a mostly original moveset, and Crowned Doomer precedes it
i love you master crown storywise but lil bro seriously is just in the background the whole time
Meteon definitely clears that even if Phase 2 was the only fight LMFAO
really Meteonelfilis form 1 is the Crowned Doomer to Giant Impact's Master Crown imo
and then there's HiAD in Star Allies with....Corrupt Hyness and Three Mage Sisters (hell, latter got revealed prerelease. lol)
Like I said I was gonna be mad if the final boss was just Elfilis again but the fact they actually managed to pull it off well by making the fight different and expanding the New World's lore was great lol
then there's most of all of SSU's new fights
Like yeah phase 2 is a different battle but the first phase of Meteone was cool as fuck with the more rougher attacks lol
really I'm glad they elaborated on Elfilis stuff
thought it would be a while before they brought them up again like most things
and also put some of the stuff mentioned in the guidebook in the game
Antares💖
well they had the extra space for it when it came the chance to do so
also Giant Impact stuff
Meteonelfilis is the funniest character lorewise ever. so any grievances i have with the dlc are obsolved
these figures ✨🌟✨
its peam
light and dark
"Where is Ares?"
Elfilis with the Ares shaped throat:
Elfilis's evil older brother who is still a baby who is also Void and also has something to do with Galacta Knight and came thousands of years too late to sink a continent and help out their sibling
and also is being held prisoner by children
I was expecting an original character based on the Starries first before Elfilis, but Elfilis was second
followed by Galacta Knight in a distant third
like I knew that whoever it would be would most likely be self-contained to FL in some way
was pretty set on Forgo relative as soon as we got close-up of the meteor
I’m still coping over no Lor mouthful and Magolor appearing out of nowhere saving Kirby
Genuienly want to know what Mefilis looks like without the power of the Starries
I imagine that form being sort of red like he did inside of the meteorite lol
Asking the real questions!!
you get Epilogue music jumpscare instead
I wonder what people think when they joked around saying the meteor contains Elfilis’s eviler brother
its so funny cause I kept making Crystal Elfilis jokes among my friends but never once actually stated that I think the meteor is an Elfilis cause I thought it was very clearly Void-coded. And OF COURSE Elfilis clearly isnt void, duh cmon guys.
ELFILIS CRAZY BROTHER is such a funny sentence man
and then it was void elfilis LMFAO
kumazaki had to know that its funny as shit
and i was like DAMMIT i should have said that
like he doesnt even have any deep lore or reasons for being angry
The whole family tree is gonna show up at this rate...
They're cooked
he's literally just a fucking hater of both his lil bro and kirby at the same time
he thinks that the way he was being a villain was lame and bad and he's cooler in every way
HELP
Kirby causes mass extinction on the forgo family
also based odie from garfield's halloween adventure pfp
if i was being held prisoner for eons by some stupid kids who just so happened to find me id be mad as hell too
well he thought they failed lol
i just feel so vindicated too
If my little sibling failed and turned into this I'd be pretty pissed
i remember saying man itd be cool if we got more lore on elfilis species
and people were like
nah never gonna happen
WHOS LAUGHING NOW
and they literally tease we likely see them again.
i would congratulate them on their transition tbh
hoping we get guidebook and/or artbook with even more stuff at least
when will we meet Voidelfilis Prime the creator of les enfants terribles
another fecto forgo
but it's genwel meton
genwel lmfaooo
its so funny that Meteon is supposed to be the older brother but is straight up stuck in larva mode cause the Starries wont let him out
I think i was on to something lol [this message is from august 5th]
think the funnier thing is like half the Void elements could just come from the Starries lol
it's funny I thought Kirby was going to actually defeat Genwel as in end them
but nope dude got sealed shut more and got zapped back into space
while the starries go on a travelling tour
The jamba heart that the starries brought to hyness
maybe when he comes back he'll return as some kind of... dream friend 🤯
Dw this hints more that Mefilis is going to be dream friends
funny crystal floor texture, funny sort-of eye star
That one oomf who wants to kill you
Yeah, kinda like....
AN ALLY OF THE STARS
I mean that's what the Starries wanted to happen
their goal is to seal
not to kill
meanwhile his sibling reverted to Larva and part of them split into another child
the larva curse
Why are the kids in this game so damn powerful bro
tbf that goes for the entire series
They came out the womb with astronomical powers
in all fairness we did need a hundred Starries to do anything
i think a hundred children could probably do anything. like the billion lions vs all the pokemon
thats a lot of children
How many starries does it take to seal a lightbulb
The Starries can't seal it because they have light power and the LIGHTbulb has the same power so it is ineffective 🧠
would Meteon shrivel like a vampire under intense light this is important lore
thats why he makes it cloudy
it all comes together
what if I turned the Starries evil
Dark Starries
jamba hearts real
no it's Dark Nebula actually
stars of darkness
trueing
i remember prerelease i wanted to believe the Starries were harvested for the Lor Starcutter and those Starries became the Doomers...
alas.... they added every possible lore thing EXCEPT something strong enough for me to theorize that. how cruel
warping technology
i see that nebulous gas in the Lor
i know what the ancients did I just can't prove it...
what about in the switches
ever since Adventure with the big ones
what energy lies in that dome of theirs?
star energy?
point stars
I mean isn't everything void in a sense?
While I guess a better term is that everything came from void
Void is everything in the sense that like... everything evolved from an amoeba or whatever. something like that
theres certain species more directly tied to Void than others
well what if there is non-carbon based life formse
thats when they'll reveal the secret counter Void the being of ORDER
when real life officially reveals the illusive silicon based life form as canon ill think of a new analogy
how this works in LE LORE is that I think the Soul bosses are meant to be what happens when someone overflows with otherwordly power, they deform and become similar to Void. Chaos Elfilis surpasses that and comes to closest to reverting to pure Void chaos
probably because their species is already not too far off the family tree from a Void given Meteon. And probably Morpho too.
ultimate cup Z wasn't as bad as i remember it being
once i lost my morpho knight sword i thought i was done for but you end up getting it back in meta knight's battle. it's almost like the game wants you to have it
went into the arena with a life up in my inventory, turns out i never needed to use it. morpho sword truly OP
i have a feeling it won't save me on Z-EX though
Always on the move.
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Hey, when do you unlock series 3 again for the gatcha
After beating Originull Wasteland
I thought you got it after winter horns for some reason
Whatever does he gaze upon
I can't get over how good The Failing Start Now Pieces through the Larrangement Point - Song of Radiation Theodore is
Sink*
I think its better than roche limit
tbh considering they're multiple songs in one I think it's hard to compare them directly since some phases I like more than others
Literally it’s unreal how good Ando is at making final boss themes honestly
500 leitmotifs
The imaginary fight scene in my head is going crazy to this bro……..
did you guys like the lord of chaos fight or nah
Replaying Mario Galaxy and their use of the phrase "starry skies" gets me thinking how Mario Galaxy fits into Kirby lore XP
It's peak
Funniest part is the electric Para-Matters giving out Ranger
I totally forgot about swallowing things for abilities lmao
Me when no electric ability
peak peak peak perfect
i need to play uczex more so i can solidify my opinions
since i did UCZ with all the stinkin evolutions i used to say Forgo Leon was my favorite fight maybe in the whole series? definitely in FL
but... now they have Forgo Leon EX and the last like 5 fights are all pretty much as good as Forgo Leon
so i gotta rewire my brain
the new Morpho is probably the biggest competition that fight is suuuuper duper good
Is it
i think Morpho 2 is pretty epic yeah
ig i just like Kirby fights that just have a lot of shit going on LMFAO since i also like Forgo Leon a lot especially when Forgo starts showing up
Morpho 2 is constant Forgo ghost barrage with some of them doing the big buzz attack
maybe i just like fights with Forgo in them
Morpho ZEX was crazy actually
They actually got me with the Soul Forgo jumpscare
I still wish they made it Morpho EX specifically but eh oh well
Theory: The Elfilis siblings told the bosses not to change their color schemes so they can trick Kirby into thinking their attacks are going to be the same (Heartbreaking)
Lord of Chaos 4d chessing Kirby by making the patterns different than they were in Forgo Dreams masterful gambit
i wonder what the consensus is on Lord of Chaos in the "canon" LMFAO
i personally see Lord of Chaos and normal Chaos as interchangeable events and not "by some miracle, Chaos is back again for round 2"
since the explanation for why the happen and how they end are the same
If you speak to Elfiin 86 times in Kirby's house he says this about Chaos Elfilis trust
I loved it. I was already impressed with the moveset of the original Chaos Elfilis and the new one is even more cool. And in general I love the combat in FL so much that having a selection of battles that are really difficult (by Kirby standards) feels fun to engage with
I still had fun with all the other fights in the base game, but I definitely got the older arenas down pat to the point where I could almost never lose. So having a this new arena is great with all the new patterns in the fights
With the one exception being the new Leongar fight because at least imo the shockwaves from the Forgo shadow become so frequent to the point of being actually more annoying than a good challenge. Later bosses throw a lot at you but at least they usually feel more focused as you recognize each stage of attack they throw. Leongar and Forgo can separately spam attacks at you. And the biggest problem is because there are so many shockwaves you can't even try to run around normally to try and get out of the way and basically HAVE to spam dodge rolls which might have you getting clipped at the end of the dodge anyway
The eclipse attack is so fucking cool
yep
it was very cool
If anything I feel like the extra shockwaves don't really add anything gameplay wise and are there to just make it look crazier
They come out so fast the shockwaves basically overlap and you don't actually really do anything different to avoid them
Out of curiosity, how many new levels are there? Or would that entail a spoiler along the lines of thinking level 10 is the last level or something based on story, but there's a secret 11th level or something
Well actually, if my question is answered and there is a secret level, I guess I'd be spoiled on that
So uh, nvm lol, sorry
12 levels (2 per world) plus the final boss level
https://fxtwitter.com/Omnipotentgam0r/status/1974904157829321171
KIRBY AND THE FORGOTTEN LAND - NINTENDO SWITCH 2 EDITION + STAR-CROSSED WORLD FOR THE XBOX
I regret selling my xbox now
DAMN
i mean
what xbox games would there be to put there
no matter how much criticism the switch 2 gets, it is still the only console with more than 1 game
forgotten land xbox port 
do you ever just like, wanna stare at kirby and bandee and elfilin dancing to the waddle live corner
and go "wow, its so detailed"
Yes.
and be impressed for like the entire 1-150 music
and trying to find the slowest song and fastest song
I love deedly dees
I've never tried that, actually.
its so fun
Which songs are those?
its hard to tell since there's a lotta tie lol
I also love when the tempo change happens and kirby goes slow and suddenly headbanging
This video was too big for my tweet for Kirby Music Facts so I just made it a Youtube video lol
I will add a better description later, but this is basically a compilation of some cases where the Dees in the band don't all play, as well as how the move faster or slower depending on the song's tempo.
If there are typos or mistakes in the video i...
I made a video once
about tempo and also instruments
I forgot which song had the issue with "kirby shouldnt be moving this fast"
I love when people think good bye is the fastest song
(it isnt, its actually pretty slow)
tempo changes in hunted by the beast my beloved
I wish I took video when I had a visual glitch
where it doesnt show any of the notes
so I can do a funny quiz with "guess the composer"
Based for including Bandee
You mean Full speed farewell from the new world? Yeah, that's not really that fast.
I forgot yall didnt get GOODBYE NEW WORLD
I have zero knowledge aside from scattered souls when it comes to english name of fl music
no nights lasts forever
BAD MASKED WILD:D.D.D.
BLUE BLUE BREEZE
But which song is the fastest? Maybe Everbay Coast?
SURVIVAL SWORD BOUNCER
100% new world!
so funny
uh good question
I need to check one with SCW tbh
I think the slowest might be Natural Plains.
full speed farewell from the new world and invincible goodbye new world! is such a whole different title

Or maybe the slow parts of Hunted by the beast.
It's definitely not this one, though I'm not playing it in the game itself with the Deedly Dees right now.
But do you like Deedly Deedles Deluxe
I'm too lazy to make an edit for this
do we have the jp translation of the elfilis and meteonelfilis spears figurine description
奥 行ける lol
God damn they got us good
ワイデ
奥
行ける
Peak file name
lmao???
When the WiDe
bro thinks he's going somewhere
#leaks-and-rumors message
I think the answer is closer to Neichel passing on but knowing her concious will be recreated via AI due to her prophetic dream. Its mentioned in some figures that all the Space Ship New World models repeatedly played her music even after no one was around to listen. So it is likely that when the Lor was created based on the original ship model, its AI learned Neichel's personality through repeated exposure to her songs.
feel like we really are jumping here
Anytime I see niechel AI theory im like that guy holding his hand out apprehensively
Whoa slow down kiddo
AI theory is dumb and silly and bad. I would never approve of AI generated neichel
Interdimensional ghost possesion theory is cool and based and awesomesauce and kino and is also 100% correct
I loove ghosts possessing machinery i loove possession
I love it when they do tricks-
Going crazy rn does anyone have that one starry fanart where they draw them to look like Kirby, Meta, and Galacta?
Googling is giving me nothing but ai results 😭
oof i feel that
artificial intelligence neichel is the only theory i believe sorry guys
I was just looking at the WiKirby Fictional languages in the Kirby series atricle and realized that it still lists "faruwa" as possibly "faraway" even though that was implied to be "faruna".
trying to look up specific art pieces on any search engine post 2023 is near impossible
yeah stuff definitely needs to be adjusted
oh was the faluwa thing a coincidence then? the boat thing
It's unknown what faruwa means.
tbh I wouldn't be surprised if Fa-lu-wa-a wasn't even a word at all
treehouse getting quirky with naming i guess
Could it be an actual word but distorted?
considering how it's formatted and how the song is yeah
no new world language word normally has spaces in JP
for context on the faluwa thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falua
Falua, also spelled faluwa, is a traditional open-deck boat of the Ivatan people from the islands of Sabtang and Batan in the Philippines. It is about 8 to 12 m (26 to 39 ft) long and has one mast. It can also be propelled by six to ten pairs of rowers. It can carry thirty passengers and is used to ferry goods between the islands. Modern falua a...
and the end is definitely distorted
kumazaki be like. solve my riddles
collect my lores
probably coincidence but nothing makes it impossible either way
you are free to go update it
Maybe they picked the gimmick phonems of new world language and they put them that way to represent the song being distorted.
PHILIPPINES MENTIONED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Should I add a note saying the HAL blog interview implied faraway was "faruna"?
I'm asking because WiKirby isn't supposed to have speculation.
well yeah isn't that what you said wikirby should do?
legit was surprised that it was a philippines thing cuz here and in brazil as well we use the same word for the same kinda boats even tho they are like super far from their country of origin (philippines)
Okay, then I'll add it. I'm going to need a little time to make a WiKirby account, though.
brazil uses what word for what?
falua!
more specifically though, ワァーアー could be from ルゥ ワァ
especially since Welcome to the New World is also in both songs iirc
whoops accidental ping
Where's the WiKirby sign in page?
huh never heard of a falua before
Thanks.
what is everyone's favorite final boss theme in kirby? mine is
THE FALLING STAR NOW PIERCES THROUGH THE LAGRANGE POINT - SING OF RADIANT THEIA
which is of course the final boss theme for
PARASTELLA CRYSTALLIS: GENWEL METEONELFILIS
from
KIRBY AND THE FORGOTTEN LAND – NINTENDO SWITCH 2 EDITION + STAR-CROSSED WORLD
uhm
I hope the next game's one is even longer
Banned for spam
Wdym Magolor is in SCW (massive cope)
If Magolor himself, actually showed up, like legit, I won’t be here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjrDhaIJM_I anyway this video good
FINALLY - I have returned... and so has Kirby! With the recently released Switch 2 came Nintendo Switch 2 Editions, upgraded versions of Switch 1 games, and Kirby and the Forgotten Land just so happened to have gotten one of it's own! However, unlike most Switch 2 Editions that merely boost a game's performance and visuals with maybe a small thi...
Pekachow W
lol I haven’t seen anyone saying “Mefilis is ugly and gross looking” till now
Amazing twitter dot com
very normal Twitter moment
(This user was talking about first and second phase Mefilis)
how big was the thing parastella crystallis genwel meteonelfilis?
Do you think he forced Elfilis to say his full name as a joke
good question
Parastella Crystallis isnt their name its their title
how can he be gross-looking, he isn't even dripping smh
loser, get on Elfilis's level
do we have a switch 2 version of this screenshot
That’s why it’s funny
this isn't full quality still but yeah
Huh, ive seen genwel hate in tumblr but not twitter
Third phase is indeed really cute too, in a pathetic way
Glooby
I love their pissy little scowl so much lol
Need an input #1341167719306760294 message
arent the starries called bastard or did i just get that idea from nowhere
Nvm it was wikirby
it's in the sense of "unwanted child"
Idk why we’re talking about this in oc channel but
It’s VERY funny
(It’s my fault)
(I didnt know the word was a bad word)
(R/kirby taught me more swear words)
This is the 4th swear words I learned from this server
don't worry yukkuri I used to not know "damn" was a swear 😭 me learning all english swears through the internet
: kirby, we gotta save those bastards.
: what.
i mean its the correct word
Technically in senses of starries, they’re just unwanted child
Unless
We meet mama starry
And we find out lore about mama starry
Fucked up family tree
Dw the actual meaning aren’t that evil 
(My mother hate me singing that line in Japanese)
It's still such a funny way to refer to them
scw mod that replaces any mention of starries with "bastards"
I hope that’s the first mod someone makes when S2 mod is available
Omg this reminds me of zan calling shadow kirby a bastard
WHAT
Huh
Yeaaars ago when she was on the Twitter account and they mentioned the shadow kirby easter egg lmao
Zans a piece of shit to everyone lmao
She called taranza an onion
Ribbon a rugrat
And made fun of ados haru okumura forhead
lmao
Zan's expression is priceless oml lmao
Zans the type of person to unironicly make a "thats what she said" joke

Tic-tac-toe forehead
interesting starries lore
genwel memphis and the bastard children
have a free band name
Unwell Memphis
awesome
the funniest part is GK actually letting the police dee read him the ticket instead of going on another planetbusting rampage mid sentence before the starries catch up again
The aeon hero’s chariot cannot be stopped
Like father like son ami right
no
apparently genwel meteonelfilis is called "Orwel Meteolis" in dutch lol
Orwel
1984
The Nintendo Dream interview is finally on Nintendo Dream Web.
||Looks like they had tested Spring Mouth during the development of the original game.||
Yeah
Confirmed
Starry’s face is confirmed to be related to the “power of traveling space”
Wasn't that already in the printed version of the interview?
LOOOOL
No, the mouthful and character section is new
more things to translate 😭
Is Kumazaki implying the Starries and Kirby himself are related here (I never expected Kirby himself to have lore like this)?
Guardian of Stars, Galacta stay dead
Strongest enemy placed on fraud watch
Kuma didn’t mentioned anything about Starries relation to Kirby and Elfilin
He said he’s gonna avoid answering that
oh finally, nice
🤨
ugh why am I not paid to do kirby translations
yeah expected, no way in hell it wasn't Lor Starcutter-based lol
forget Kirby = Void, Kirby = Starries when
Will my crack theory i typed up a few week ago be true....
Basically tldr;
- Spring Mouth was considered during the base game Forgotten Land, it’s like the main protagonist of this game
- Astronomer Waddle Dee was already doing research on the stars in general before getting sent to the new world. So he was quickly attached and researched on the stars that can be seen from the new world etc.
- Starries don’t talk so it won’t affect much of rest of the Waddle Dee Town and Beast Pack in the main story (to make it simple).
- Starries face design is confirmed to be related to the “power of traveling space”.
- Starries are guardian of stars, crystallizing themself to protect the stars from threats. (which was mentioned in game but will send it again)
I never sent it here because its hashtag cringe but i wait..
We have pins i can pin
oh another 子 use for the FL Waddle Dees lol
I need to get my translation motivation back
it's been so low lately
I feel pressured to translate fast since so many people go "oh rip this isn't fully translated yet" (not here specifically mostly, but still)
I got my eye on you kumazaki. Children of the stars... Kirby of the stars being used in English finally. Ur not slick lil bro
but I'm not in japan....
No one is forced or obligated to do something
Just do it whenever you feel like it
This isn’t job or school or chores
People can cry about it
honestly you're so right but I still feel bad 😭
Don’t
nah, drink apple juice
I was asked to do English to Japanese translation and I haven’t done it in 3 years

/srs
I think it was Magolor dialogue
Even me, Magolor fan, abandoned translation for 3 years
Kumazaki pointing out the face thing for people who didn't notice it on the Lor and on the clean Neichel Billboard, how kind
This is exactly why I usually only do bullet points instead of full translation
Most people only care for the specific points
Less stress more free time to yapping and crying over Magolor
Thanks for the sparknotes
I guess in my case I always have this unrealistic fear that I will slack translating something and someone will appear with a full translation better than mine
Plus honestly a lot of the translator these days are good enough to get to the main point
but I should know better that's not a thing and it not being a thing is one of the main reasons I started translating because kirby community doesn't have many active translators, no shade on anyone really just a fact
(As an generated translation)
does that mean anything
(If they screw up simply learn Japanese)
unfortunately or fortunately true
just 'child'
yeah elfilin calls waddle dees kids/children in FL
elfilin is also called one
and I guess starries
all these kids running around....
children....
The children lore
waddle dee town is a town of children with two adults 😭
this is reminding me that shadow kirby is also called kid (the same kanji even) in the waddle dee novel I'm translating
funny "that kid"
3, if you count Clawroline
they added cut content as paid DLC... HAL is scammer
HAL is Magolor????!!
true!
This is the worst Daycare ever
Only 3 adults smh……
they can make a whole town on their own, they'll be fine
I think you should take a break 😭 😭 😭 😭 Genuinely, you’re entering 闇堕ち era /lh
Like again, no one is obligated in translating something, and there’s people out there who also do translation on their free time.
Maybe if you really really want to, focus on one’s that you’re really interested in or may be motivated enough to finish
But I’m not you, so it’s not my decision in making. But take this as suggestion or grain of salt because burnout or pressure is the worst thing to experience. Try not to take people online serious.
「それでも、モチモチした飛び交う彼らを見るとかわいらしいですよね」
Mochi mochi….
Sorry if I sounded harsh btw 😭
nah you are fine, though I am translating what I want tbh, I do not like comments when people are impatient about translations though
feeling this lately with the waddle dee novel, even if I REALLY want to translate that one but I also know how some people go "oh this translation started but is incomplete, a shame" and like it feels so passive aggressive 😔
you're good!
I've just been really drained lately but mostly due to irl, and translating can be hard for me sometimes
delete twitter
Real????
ngl I accidentally found that comment on reddit so that's what it's been on my mind lol
Wait no I don’t wanna delete Twitter I need to yap about uncanny Magolor
need to delete that
why yap there when you can yap here to a lot of other insane people smh



