#Star-Crossed World (and Forgotten Land Switch 2 Edition)
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ignâs review looks like it confirms about what I expected from this one unfortunately
Its out in certain timezones and thats all we can say since all of us in this chat specifically havenât played the DLC yet, since this is the no spoiler chat. Ask someone who is speaking in the spoiler chat
They give everything a 7.
I refer to what is actually said in the review
Iâm not taking too much stock in the numbers after Brothership LOL
I'm critical unless it's Kirby (most of the time).
A lack of certain elements that could reasonably have been expected in a package like this isnât something theyâre getting âwrongâ
I'm a sucker for this franchise so as long as Kirby is there it's an S rank game for me. (lying)
What are ign scores anyway besides
âIts low so ign is bad and worthlessâ or
âIts high so IGN actually is super cool and correctâ 
Personally I say wait till like a content creator you have similar tastes to or a friend who is experiencing it says something about it if you really want to gage how much youâll enjoy it
I don't care for IGN honestly.
"Cool, it's over 7. Anyways."
If anything what they've shown suggests a pretty low amount of particularly new content
I was kinda hoping they would show off new bosses but I guess it's just the new midboss
Which is the issue for me personally. Everyone was telling me I was being pessimistic for this one but thatâs just about what the package is, for $20 I expected a little more
I mean lets be real did we all really expect this to be any bigger than like forgo dreams? So yea Im not expecting an absolute ton of content
I feel the price would be the only main issue then? It's not as much as assumed by the price?
which is the disappointing part in that it just feels like postgame 1.5
Because all I've seen so far are complaints about the game's length and content or rather lack of content.
it can't even make new bosses for its story due to it being expensive and it can't reuse old ones without stepping on the toes of the other post game's stuff
I mean I don't know for sure how many bosses there are but if there was a new boss early on they would have shown it
Is it available already? I thought it was releasing tomorrow.
Have you played it yet?
Not saying this as a rebuttal to your argument just asking to know if you mean there is in fact no new bosses
Ah ok read the last part nvm
It seems to me that they wanted to make a whole new game set in the Forgotten Land's world but were held back due to the fact that it had to be an expansion of Forgotten Land. That's my theory, of course. Again, I haven't and probably won't play it until I get a Switch 2.
it's really oddly paced if all the bosses are at the end
Timezone shenanigans
It is out in like Australia I think
I see
Lame just release it all at once
They wanted the Hollow Knight gods to experience the game first.
But then they gonna be busy playing and delay Silksong again
my theory is that they're still unsure of what to do for a new 3D game so they need more time to work on it
meanwhile reusing the same ideas they already had will let them build on that without having to create another new game
I mean in my case I am talking about something I was worried about since the trailer that everyone told me âthereâs no way thatâs actually the caseâ and then reviews demonstrate it is in fact the case⌠I think itâs a worthwhile point of discussion to be disappointed by especially considering it is still a monetary investment. I think itâs fair to say on the outside looking in this seems like an underwhelming package for the price
Is the game good though? Besides the price. Has anyone seen that?
I tbh still haven't been particularly convinced the effects are particularly "this is only on switch 2 because it's so ambitious with processing power"
the frame rate increase is doing a lot of the heavy lifting
Well, I already thought Forgotten Land was a good enough looking game.
The only issue for me was the framerate and that was a little thing.
like yeah some of the effects are a little more intensive but ultimately i don't feel like it's done anything particularly heavy still
Not botching the visuals is kind of the bare minimum here
I feel more like they wanted to do an update in similar vain to star alliesâ content like the dream friends or hiad but while developing they just so happened to be around the switch 2 update planning so they were offered the choice to bring it in as part of the switch 2 upgrade lines and they took it.
Also kinda unrelated but I feel like people forget a bit that this isnât just dlc its also a complete reoptimization update. So like its kinda like a 10 dollar console upgrade plus 10 dollar dlc
it's still reusing a lot of the same stuff they already released before and it's just... eh, honestly I just wish the dlc was separate from the frame rate upgrade
I wish it was a separate game entirely.
Yea I can get that sentiment
Doesnât really feel like it has to be part of the switch 2 pack
like it's kinda giving me a bad taste that they aren't separate at all because they know how much the frame rate increase is doing most of the heavy lifting
Worth remembering that this new content itself has past upgrades and expansions to compare itself to though⌠particularly Star Allies which added an entire set of harder remixed bosses for free on top of all the extra-lengthy new levels
My main concern when watching the trailers is that it looked like they just painted over the levels...
Even with Forgo Dreams, the areas had a somewhat different color palette and atmosphere and heavily modified layout and enemies to make it feel different.
See they do acknowledge in reviews that these are new levels with new geometry taking advantage of unexplored segments of existing ones
So thatâs not really my concern
Yes, in Star Cross World you're exploring parts of the level you haven't explored before. But they feel like you have. They're not much different aside from these crystals littering the area.
there's only one new enemy so far
But I haven't and can't play the game so.
Thr channel sirloin is streaming the dlc rn
This dude?
I mean I doubt the layouts will be the same from what weâve seen it does look like the paths are completely different. Hell the wondaria festival level in the trailer looks like you completely skip the festival so yea Im not really concerned about levels being too similar. Hell forgo dreams already uses a ton of the same level design so I doubt theyâll just do that again
Hopefully the lack of content means theyâre putting most of their resources into the next game??
Doesn't seem like the type to play Kirby...
I kinda did wish they would have included a new evolved ability to play with in one of these levels but if there is one it's a spoiler so I guess we're not seeing that
Oh this is definitely a holdover for whatever they do next
I wonder if the next game will be 3D or 2D.
I hope the next game is 3D
(I like the 2D more but I hope it's 3D.)
3D for sure. Otherwise we wouldnât have had rtdldx as a stopgap
I definitely think that this was like a compromise
But I hope they keep going in the direction they are with the franchise.
Nintendo wanted new content for mainline Kirby for Switch 2 launch very bad but they would rather not rush out a new game
wait shes retired??
Sorry...
sorry to tell you but i think everyone from the new world left ages ago and is probably dead
I mean this one
i think that shouldnt be here !
Oh my god people are quick
FUCKIN ALREADY??? at least there's no spoilers in the thumbnail but it's probably still better to not- yeah
Wait youre right
Its a stream yea
i have gotten too many spoilers by being stupid and accidentally clicking on blatantly spoilered images
Someones playing it rn
Like on this dlc or in general?
tbh i shouldve realized sooner but its still really sad to me that neichel could be dead đ
does this mean no more hit neichel songs that havent already been made..?
hopefully she's just. Super old or smth
I mean maybe she had an illustrious career after leaving the New World
yeah its only been 30 years right?
It's implied to be much much much more than 30 years
well. i say only but thats a lot of time
OH geez
Oh you sweet summer child
Its been like a millennia
It's the origin point of warp technology which ancients used all over the place so uhhh
30 years is not exactly ancient!!!
Absolutely. Hal likely put a small part of the team in making a dlc for FL due to nintendo wanting to shiwcase switch 2 versions of switch 1 titles
It is 12AM for me and is not letting me in 
ancients try not to be involved in everything (impossible)
I THINK IT IS NOW LETTING ME IN LETS GOOOO
Besudes usually hal develops the next game while there is dlc in a game
If im not misremembering they were already brainstorming FL when the dlc for SA was being developed
33 years 
I kinda love how it says ârestarting will not give you it any soonerâ
Like nintendo knows people are gonna try to brute force it lmao 
i would say thats air riders but thats not primarily developed by hal... what could they be cooking?
A big new 3d game :)
Is the main game upgraded or is it like mario party
To blow our socks off
the main game is upgraded!
Yayyyy ty thats all i really wanted!!
Yeah it's fully upgraded
1440p, 60 fps, higher res textures
yeah LMAO
One hour left 
- you can play the dlc alongside the main game
Iâm going to explode
Anyways I am going to stay up til 4am playing peak now
At this point I wouldnât be surprised if theyâre already significantly through the development phase of whatever theyâre making next
After dream buffet it did feel like a substantially long time before we got kirby content again
Hi Yukkuri
Howdy~
Just peeking in for last min before I go silent
Hal is seemingly barely supervising air riders, sakurai and sora are the devs of air riders
yeah, which is scary. what could they be making that they cant even spare too much supervision on air riders
More peak ofc ^^
Sorry for interrupting you guys I'll go play the game now 
I mean does air riders really need that much supervision? It is being overseen by sakurai. Plus even then it probably doesnât take significant dev power to just see what theyâre doing and give a note like âhey maybe you shouldnât make that character do thatâ or something
Hal probably give sakurai a rundown of who the modern cast is
Explain him their personality, powers and whatnot
Head up, final boss vids are starting to show up so watch out
donkey kong bananza
Bluster kong final boss spoiled...
IT'S BEEN AN HOUR
How
the horror!
they definitely oversee it but it's usually people who's job is already to oversee stuff that do that so it's likely fine?
It's someone who already had the game uploading as soon as it's out in australia
Oh.
Same bruh 
This is why this time I quite literally disconnected myself from YouTube until I can play the dlc this weekend. Turned off channel notifications and everything
Im staying up late tonight i really wanna play the game
There's zero chance I can avoid spoilers until I can afford a switch 2, so I'm just gonna accept defeat here I think
At least keep in mind where to discuss stuff here if you do plan on sneaking a look at SCW content beyond winter horns
The stickied message will continue until morale improves
WHERE IS THE OST?!
IT'S TIME, YAYAYYAYA
The Kirby and the Forgotten Land â Nintendo Switch 2 Edition + Star-Crossed World game launches August 28, 2025, only on the Nintendo Switch 2 system. https://ninten.do/6000sZFFC
Join Kirby on a magical journey through the Forgotten Land with enhanced resolution and frame rates! Then uncover the mystery of the meteor with a brand-new story.
...
the
repost after a repost
they got nothing else the show it's game time
Nothing? What about the full soundtrack?
what is this game ive never heard of it
the soundtrack was released like yesterday or like 2 days ago it's not new plus it doesn't cover scw songs yet
...Still not unlocked here...
remember
27: australia, new zealand and japan
28: rest of the world
No way do I have to wait until 9:00 pm for this
...remind me again how long the release gap is??
Europe is 27 too (by americas timezones)
KIRBY TODAY
KIRBY TOMORROW (for my timezone)
KIRBY SOMEDAY
KIRBY NEVER
HE DIED
RIP
KIRBY YESTERDAY
americas all get it at 12 am et
That means in 12 hours lol
which is really unintuitive to be fair
oh, what comes after 11am? 12pm, obviously
Aw fuck I was right...
Dammit I have to wait ALL day to even-
We should abolish timezones
That why military time is cooler
stay up until 5am to 100% star-crossed world
or actually try to go to bed early for once and play it first thing in the morning
Im not gonna be able to sleep because of the excitement so i am staying up
Lie in bed for 2 minutes so you can say you tried and then just play scw anyways 
unfortunately this is probably the most likely outcome
other than trying to go to sleep and just failing until 5 am anyway and then also waking up at like 3pm so it's the worst of all worlds
maybe i should try to fix my sleep schedule whatsoever
What Iâm just gonna do is immediately go to bed when I get home
Wake up and then play it
I'M GETTING HIT WITH SPOILER AFTER SPOILER HELP
aeroplane mode
Ok I won't be touching the Switch until 9:00 pm pst then
my wifiđ
I signed out of my YouTube account just to be safe
but even then I can't even search up anything related to Kirby
turn it off
no i like my wifi
like I wanted to rewatch the Magolor battle from RtDLD but I can't because searching up Kirby and final boss is death.
then suffer the consequences
i should've just left my phone alone for the whole day
i haven't been spoiled yet
it's going to take all of my strength not to look in the spoiler chat
If you don't got the game and haven't at least have been through 4-ish levels... stay away from that place
I'll probably keep quiet when the thing releases here in the states
yea, it's still the 27th for me. I haven't seen anything beyond the marketing for the dlc
I mean right now it's pretty inactive
However, I will bring up something that you could do immediately upon loading the game when the time comes
the leaks thread on the other hand...
So yeah uh, how about we do something actually productive for the day instead of just moping about, waiting for that moment where opening the pre-load doesn't prompt us with a pop up
You guys oughtta wash your shoes or something
(unfortunately the wait is going to be a big itch for the whole day)
my plan is to start a new file and play through the whole game again alongside the dlc
As we twiddle our thumbs and contemplate how to spend time, the Kiwis đĽ are already halfway through the story
Kiwis?
New Zealand, home of the birds
How to get the secret one.
Ah, what the hell-
â ď¸ Spoilered image is a screenshot of a Starry level found in World 2
(You guys who got the game legally early... gotta make sure to provide context with these things)
apparently spoilers up to winter horns are allowed in this chat
which honestly seems kinda weird to me
Yeah IK, but I just wanted to add context just in case
ah
I put a spoiler warning?
It wasn't really clear tbh
Even though image is spoilered, there's no heads up on when or where said thing took place
Do you know how to get that one?
Sorry.
It's fine
Most ppl dont have the dlc yet, so you might as well finish the level to get the clue
Ah, even 3 years later, we still gotta do it the old fashioned way
Weird you'd think there'd be a feature or service for that sort of thing...
I'm just in a rush right now.
Ah well whatever extends our play time I guess!
What mirror?
NSOEP Reference?
-# I'm not gonna elaborate on the joke here, you'll figure in a moment
Ok now what the hell is that
Oh- đĄ
?
Wait did I get the acronym wrong??
Depends, what do you think it is?
Nintendo Switch Online Expansion Pass
insert victorious gameshow music
Wait why would you assume I'm referencing a service and not like... whatever-
I'm not going to elaborate, as I said
...My god Yukkuri's still online
Oh wait I thought the $20 was referencing NSO and since AM is available with T he expansion pass
...Are they even playing SCW??
It's not even out for both of us yet... unless.... no-
Its a game release day so people often come down with the sickness of temporarily turning Japanese or Australian đ
I cannot wait to beat the dlc in a day then having nothing else to do till silksong releases
I guess I'll be scrubbing shoes then-
By the time I even start SCW, they'll probably get that SCW Spoiler Role
But you do have something to do! PLAY THE SONIC RACING CROSSWORLDS OPEN NETWORK TES- gets evaporated
Go play Mario Kart World and unlock Mirror Mode
Trust me the time it'll take to unlock this one mode will be enough to pass the day to release
...Ok but FR tho I'm tired of sitting here I'm gonna do something now-
Actually no video games, just do something else, save that gamer energy for the release!
You got the game already what!
Guys even excluding the whole Star Crossed World expansion, the Switch 2 Edition of Forgotten Land is so hype! I can't wait to use Speed Potions in sweet smooth 60fps!
I genuinely cannot wait to replay the entire game again, plus the new content, 100%. This is going to be really awesome
Will we have to restart the game?
oh, no, no, no. If you already have a completed save file, you don't have to start from scratch. But I want to do that
SCW, even though it gives me heavy post-game impressions, is made to go alongside story mode
So regardless if you started a new file or are continuing from your 100% save, it's basically just a new game mode (Like Heroes In Another Dimension).
It's just that Forgotten Land's style of "modes" is all about adding them in a way that feels "natural", so no menus!
(Which BTW is a very cool thing this game has been doing)
I have been playing on the Australian one.
I actually got it 7 hours ago.
It turns out I need to ||play with fish.||
this is prolly the most significant graphical change the switch 2 version has made thus far
DoF blur is reduced
and the flowrs on the buildings are bigger and less plentiful
also i noticed that one of the buildings in the back has bugged flowerm odels and they are way too big
i cant really pin down why they would do this
it really doesnt matter anyways its just odd
Lmao wtf
The comically large flowers on that building in the background????
Well I had been memeing about how the S2 version was going to break a dozen minor things no one will notice like SA updates did so
There it is ig
As for DoF blur that's just how it works on a technical level, its a blur that depends on the resolution of what's being blurred so its going to look less blurry the higher resolution the image is
The game looks like 10x more blurred in handheld than docked, for example
Because handheld is of course lower resolution
this seems like the only error i can find at all mind you
and i think the flowers were changed cause you now actually interact with this parto f the level
so the small flowers only worked at the lower rez and being firther away
Oh yea I'm definitely not saying this is evidence of problems throughout the game
Just more of a joke about the inevitability of fucking up a dozen random things when you go back and change a finished product
7 hours until it's out for me
I need it now 
7 more hours 
The last time Iâm posting this image thankfully
Mmm tasty building
Playing ultimate cup z again to remember how to play fl
This time i want to try a different copy ability
I always use sword
How much longer
God I haven't caught up with what is happening here since last time I spoke in this channel đ
I dont even know what to do lol
A good start would be peeping the pins and or #kirby-news if youre just looking for star crossed stuff
Finally reached chaos elfiliss
Had to buy retries 4 times
I'm using needle
Died to the cutter attack
đ
O give up
I have to wait 15 hours before I can get mine
this is some BS... what the hell do I do until then? Projects? Reading??
Iâm trying to figure out if i would be able to do my usual routine for the last time before September
Got everything done beforehand?
Ty!
Itâs mostly to stream an ultimate cup z run with Morpho sword and the last bit of preparation for tomorrow
Just started a new fresh save file in the Switch 2 Edition of Forgotten Land [Handheld Mode]...my gosh...it plays so, so much better...
Ok so guys
Those who are playing Switch 2 Edition RN...
...Hammer Jump?
That's it, that was the question
Will this be available at midnight?
Seems like Kirby gets new sounds in the Switch 2 Edition of the Base Game. At least I don't recall hearing them in the Switch 1 version
has it been going live at midnight in all regions?
Got it midnight in my region
Everyone block RetroArchive if you can, they have a TUCZEX upload already with the splash image in the thumbnail.
I forget if you can block entire channels.
Quick Question but does spoiler policy affect the streaming of Forgotten land in VC or just if you have the DLC?
I assume Switch 1 FL is completely fine to stream.
Ok i read the pins so I think im caught up?
Oh heya Jann, it's been a while
Oh ig I should watch the air ride direct-
Hi :D
Im glad there's people that remember me wow :D
Yes the Air Riders direct is insane.
yes
dont stream the dlc and you are good
Thank you Zlaker 
#pranked
WTF how did that happen
Lol
SInce when could the stars bounce from the walls of the morpho fight
star bullets bounce off walls
I NEED TO GET IN

4 more hours californians
9:00 pm PST is when it releases
But of course, variance and nonsense can occur for other regions
Ohhhh
So sadly releases aren't uniform and this is how Kiwis get to play first
So if it turns 9:00 here. Thereâs a chance we could play it?
What time does it release for EST Time?
Midnight
Ah
Or 9:00 if it follows PST time
All US regions release at 12:00 EST, so people in PST get it at 9:00, and so forth
Hmm.. so we can play early in California
(Wait actually no)
Hm? Why?
sleep
LMAO
i don't think i've ever had it NOT happen
wdym
I think its more surprising just how dang precise it was
Ive seen star bullets bounce but thats usually because you miss and they donât really hit anything after that usually Goatres got mad lucky lmao
The night before SCWâŚ
Its the night before scw
The night before scw
Ive never seen a fight with him where the bullets DIDN'T rebound off the barriers at some point lol
Star-Crossed World NSO pfps are out! along with reruns from the base game
weird how they only do that for a few select waves
I am NOT waiting 2 more weeks for gear mouth.
Honestly I wish they'd put stuff like FL or what not on the play to unlock tab
kinda wack that it's been like this for basically 2 years
the exact same 4 Mario games and animal crossing
do you think we get Leongar and Forgo Dreams icon parts
Oh my god they're really expanding on the base set
Leongar when he learns of the meteor's arrival post revival
COME. THE. FUCK. ON.
I was literally watching stuff about le funni Hor hor hor hor bear game. But nooooooo, I get jumpscared by a spoiler video about the final boss. Luckily I didn't look at the details of the thumbnail and instead just left as fast as I could from that video.
use a world blocker
I'm watching it on TV. Impossible.
oh
well thats the lottery then
rolling on the reccomended as they say (nobody does)
I think the worst time I've ever been spoiled by a thumbnail is when I was watching the Sakurai Presents Banjo-Kazooie livestream but stopped partway though and had to rewatch from the uploaded video
and when I went back I saw the wave 3 mii costumes video uploaded separately
HOW MUCH LONGER FOR ME
Like 2 hours
Hey can someone help me with a specific figurine unlock? it says i need to rebuild more of waddle dee town but i finished the main game?
I accidentally clicked YouTube. Ive done everything in my power to avoid spoilers, even turned off mobile notifications so shit isnât placed in my notifications when Im doing anything elseâŚâŚâŚ.I got partially spoiled because of a literal accident, at least with willingly scrolling YouTube youâre still actively putting yourself at risk. I legit just clicked the icon by accident. I am eternally grateful it was only a minor detail of what I assume is the final boss is, Im still pretty much in the dark for the most part. Im more pissed at the fact I have to treat youtube like a literal goddamn landmine on my phone just to enjoy surprises
yeah I'm pretty scared because a livestream is one thing but this whole delayed release thing is another entir
I signed out of YouTube to further ensure I don't see spoilers
I legit moved YouTube into a folder on the other side of my phoneâs home screen so I canât accidentally muscle memory click it. Like this is completely bullshit
My fellow brazilians, when is SCW releasing at our timezone?
Yea I kinda wish it was just like directs where it releases the same time everywhere. But even then that wonât help because theres no damn way so many YouTubers finished everything so fast. Im 90% sure they all play the leaked release and then upload the stuff specifically as soon as the game is technically available so it isnât suspicious 
Same thing for me, but i clicked on not interested so it wont be on my reccomended again
So itâs coming out in the US and about an hour right?
should be 2 hours
TRUE
the only thing that sucks really about the dlc is that it's on switch 2
switch 2 is still a very new system that a lot of people might not have so they'll be missing out on the great new content
cuz remember you gotta spend 400 - 450 bucks on a switch 2 and then another 20 - 80 bucks on the upgrade pack or the game with upgrade pack
Redgar forbidden lands alarm gonna go crazy
Me snoozing the alarmo for 20 minutes and it starts play Eternal Echo 
oh so NA region might all get it at midnight eastern?
or is it the timezone that you're actually in
the former
sweet
it's based on region's earliest time zone
In my case, as a west coast guy, it'd be in the night time (around early-ish)
For the guys out east, yeah probably midnight
...Oh my god...
...Oh my god they're still on the game
Itâs implied some waddle dees actually stay in the new world instead of going back to pop star. Thatâs rad, so where the hell do they sleep.
...Yukkuri... what the hell- oh my god, take a break....
Oh wait it's noon for them over there
The only place of resting is Kirbyâs house. Do they have little tents or something
The weird surrounding buildings bordering the town:
I might get alarmo now. Its gonna have Kirby stuff
...8 minutes
Kirby and the forgotten land was my favourite switch 1 game so im really happy about this release
Zerbie, you good?
I assume my switch 1 forgotten land save file will transfer over to switch 2?
... ... ... 2
yes
Good
Wish the download size wasnât so big though
Why is it 10 GB just for the DLC
1 min eeeeee
have fun guys
happy new year
don't miss a single starry
...It has begun
or I wll find you
Welcome to midnight
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
I mean uhh. scw release
âYou cannot play this yetâ HELPPPPP MEEEE
IM IN
OH FUCK YOU NINTENDO
GOODBYE EVERYONE
im in too đ
Its so smooth!!
OK I'M IN, SEE YOU LATER SUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ultra spoiler kirby is in the game and you get to meet a blue alien rat (i think) thingy called elfilin
damn Kirby getting the specialities right now for NS2
first Air Riders early music special release on Nintendo Music
then Alarmo for SCW?
funny how the 5 switch 2 titles from nintendo 2 of them are kirby based
He's off to a great start
STARTED SCW
guys is scw out on the west coast? đ
is there a new present code in town?
you can if you check #kirby-news
in town, man
not online
actually apologies however the news does not contain it yet
there used to be a code but it expired when scw released so like 5 minutes ago
i'm not talking about online codes anyway, but thanks
however you can find it in here #kirby-kingdom
elfilin is saying there's one in town
other than that I have no clue as you right now lol
Just a reminder that you'll be moving to different threads after certain points if you guys are liveposting, prob twice if you're rushing to the final boss
Have fun tho
wmex3 casually disappearing
these are the codes found in town
those are the six that have been available for years
i have them on all my saves
i'm saying that elfilin says there's a new one in town
find it in the wall 
which of the many walls, i've checked them all
It is so smooth now
funny how kirby is currently getting more love then like mario does
but it'll change in september ofc cuz like 40 year anniversary
i swear i have walked around every inch of waddle tee town, does anybody have any idea where the new present code is
I CAN PLAY STAR CROSSED WORLD AAAAAAAAAA
i am going insane
First stage and i already missed a starrie đ
oh it feels so good to be back
Oh it's live for y'all? Have fun guys
WHERE IS THE NEW PRESENT CODE IN TOWN
theory: vermont has a counterpart that exists in the forgotten land
I think you need to play a bit of the new stages to find it
okay that would explain a lot
thanks
elfilin telling me there's one hidden every time i enter town is so strange then
Iâll let you know after I finish grassy plains.
May be available then
it's not available after grassy plains i know that
My theory is a meteor is going to hit the town.
OhâŚ
btw the code from #kirby-news gives you
Star Coins x800
Rare Stone x1
Starry Coins x300
lasts forever
Oooo
lots of goodies to start off your star crossed world adventure
gear mouth is actually so fun
4 levels in, impressions?
Hrm, I sure like the new levels so far. Music is pretty darned cool. But, ugh, something's not right... it feels deceitful... in a positive way??
I must continue playing...
Also yeah fucking RIP the hammer jump
Been playing for like 2 hours
I seem to be kind of always missing something in levels lol
gotta reaaaally pay attention
Oh yeah no I only got 1/4 current levels completed
everything else is missing some
Anyways ngl that crystal holding Waddle Dee probably exists for players who started a fresh save
Hope he gets further use because rn he's just... there
I'll just say that the description of "remixed levels" is just not very much the truth to me
yeah it's based on existing levels but the level design is still so different and asking very much differently of you
More like "We changed room 1... then added 300 new rooms in there"
So tempted to stop rn... but I think I'll do the 5th level
I did 6 levels so far
can I kind of be honest about the 60 FPS?
...for some reason I didn't feel the difference as much
I do feel the 60 FPS but the original's 30 FPS was so well managed that I'm not feeling the difference as much
the original game had very good performance
so im not that surprised
but just looking at the footage
the difference is noticeable
everything is just a tad smoother
I personally see a big difference but yeah FL hardly had any frame rate drops
If anything faraway enemies not being as choppy is the most noticeable upgrade
I must be feeling things...
Are these levels... longer??
Hoof... yeah I'm resting from this
BTW playing this on a file with only the base abilities (no upgrades) is tough
yeah they are
i like that tbh. gives them more time to explore the new and old ideas from the base-game
i fucked with my switch 2 clock and got to play an hour early :>
okay yeah sadly it's now confirmed
hammer super jump is now patched
that also means all of the glitches related to it are also patched
this is all imma share here regarding the dlc
here
i think i heard it's more of frame rate related rather than intentional fix somewhere... 
it might be a higher framerate in the ns2 version idk
NS2 edition is 60 FPS, so it is possible the hammer jump became harder, but at same time with how many people trying, there's a chance it's actually patched. I'm more leaning towards patched
i've tried a lot and i can't get it to work
and i practiced earlier today before scw came out to make sure i had the timing down pat
it's proooobably patched
also fully completed all the levels up through winter horns
I've been playing this game for almost 18 hours and I can honestly go for like 12 more hours
several people (including speedrunners) tried it and said don't work
there's a 98% chance it's patched
i do wonder now it's dragon fire is also patched cuz dragon fire was the other way to do it
I donât even think itâs 98% lol
Itâs def patched
At least it wasnât part of the last update so regular FL players can still play
Kinda bummer, but also fair stuff since itâs not intentional
The glitches are only patched on Switch 2 thoughr right?
So what did the switch 1 version of the update do then lol
Probably something else
not clear
the glitch still works there
I mean there are plenty of other glitches in that game so
nothing
Omg
It was everything I wanted it to be
I am very satisfied with what I just played
-# and thatâs all Iâm saying bc no spoilers here
its a shame easily the most iconic one was patched tho đ
Makes you wonder why they updated it on switch 1 though.
truly mario 64 shindou pack moment
I actually practiced using hammer glitch for the first time before the dlc launched
And then the dlc launched
Yeah, but it doesn't matter if you have a Switch 1 anyway
Simply donât upgrade to switch 2 edition 
Like even if you own switch 2 and FL, if you donât upgrade it, you can still play with the glitch
last glitched mk cup time
Sign mouth is kinda ass
a lot of people are still stuck on switch 1 version it's mainly 3 reasons
1 they don't have a switch 2 (you know the console is new and sorta expensive)
2 they don't have the upgrade pack (20 bucks ig is considered a lot)
3 they wanna keep the glitches intact
Missed 1 starry in both levels I've played so far and they're both ones that are like "do x amount of things" 
gl 
Ty crm I'm loving it so far
Also figurine description spoiler but 
I didn't even know ||Kirby could/did chew||
now thats the most important lore revelation in this dlc
This one gave me a good legit chuckle
I love that Kirby has more voicelines
And also has muffled cheers when saving waddle dees in mouthful mode
How long is it?
A lot depends on how fast you play, and whether you're poking into every corner or not. Just from first level to last, it was between 4 and 5 hrs for me, but I do play slowly. That's not considering arena stuff and "going back to get stuff I missed" which I will do later
Faster players obvs will have shorter times
Good to know, thx
Wa-wa Wa-Wa Warp Star MAX! suchs so much compared to the japanese name that's all
yes I'm in but I only did the first stage so far
done with the 4 first worlds when it comes to dlc. had my save file deleted so ive been playing the main story and dlc in tandem with each other. at first i was super upset cuz my 100% save file gone, but im glad i get to re-experience the main story again cuz it made re-appreciate how good the game is 3 years later. not all all levels are winners, but so many of them super intricate and well made. the dlc stages are also incredibly well made. i love the the new mouthful modes and i love how the game brings back a bunch of the old ones to make new challenges and set pieces with them. the increased difficulty and longer levels are also very welcomed. im not even done with the dlc but it just makes me want the next mainline 3d game. they def cooked here
anyway rambling done lol. dlc very good, me likey
I do find it funny though that (minor spoilers) ||they don't let me back to the volcano PLEASE I wish I could walk there||
BY SHEER DETERMINATION I MANAGED TO WAKE UP AT A REASONABLE 12PM JUST TO PLAY THE GAME EARLIER
AND I HAVE JUST BOUGHT THE DLC
yippie!
|| The fact that Kirby starts chewing him is so funny||
startin da dlc
bro⌠you best be buggin
UPGRADE PACK DOWNLOAD COMPLETE
I CAN START PLAYING
OKAY BYE
holy shit the game loaded up in like. 3 seconds
switch 2 is crazy
My fellow New Worldians. It is with great pleasure to announce to you all that I GOT ALL THE MISSIONS IN A FORGOTTEN LAND STAGE ON MY FIRST TRY FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER LET'S FUCKING GOOO
HAPPY SCW DAY EVERYONE!
||WHY IS THE FIGURE COLLECTION EX MENU THEME SO GOOD??? OMG||
i decided that i'm gonna do all the (mid-)boss fights without ability just so my max evolved + star abilities aren't too overpowered lol
The many NEICHEL Billboard Screenshots
the level design...
2/2 ON ALL MISSIONS LET'S GOOO
second stage ||the fact that they called galactal "the crystal monster that shoots meteors" is very sus||
||also i love the wild results remix||
I beat the first two stages with all missions cleared on first go let's see if I can keep this up (probably not)
storage box finally has a figure, the game is finally good
LET'S FUCKING GOOOO I GOT A ||CARDBOARD BOX|| FIGURE
(that is not really a spoiler at all btw)
Yay Gigi is playing
my pacing will be all over the place because in theory I should be working LOL
in fact I even barely had breakfast
but I wonder if I can beat it today
anyway I will continue in a few
||fallen-star beach...|| (stage name)
third stage ||wait... this is just the normal music, that's kinda disap-HEY WAIT A MINUTE||
woah, you might want to do that
THIS MUSICCCC
don't worry I'm eating now
well I did have coffee and milk but yeah lol (earlier I mean)
CoffeeâŚand milk?
yeah

is that strange to non brazilians
I canât speak for everyone but Iâve never heard of that before.
fair
but it is literally just coffee mixed with milk
anyway huuuh star-crossed world
I'm going to continue in a few
Itâs time to gamble! 
also already love astronomer waddle dee
not surprisingly
||but I love how he goes "yeah I learned the new world language to read astronomy books here" NERD (I love him)||
||novel MK who did the same would be bffs with him||
As a non brazilian i drink coffee exclusively with milk
awesome
||he's just like us, just like us for real||
||YEAH EXACTLY I WAS LIKE "just like me fr"||
stage 3 ||THAT STARRYFLOWER IS COMPLETELY PURPLE, JUST LIKE GALACTA KNIGTH'S SEAL, GALACTA KNIGHT CONFIR-oh it's a timer challenge lol||
third stage ||WAIT WHAT WHAT NEW VERSION OF BASE ABANDONED BEACH IS THIS?????||
||hey it still confirms the crystals can be purple||
||THE MUSIC I MEAN||
||it's called we do a little trolling||
(a bit later in the stage than where you're at) ||like "haha you thought you'd get exclusively original remixes but this is just the opening of the theme- JUST KIDDING LMAOO||
the whole game is
That is true
But pre-release i was a bit skeptical on the crystalized aesthetic
But they pull it off
NEICHEL BILLBOARD LET'S GOOOOOOO
i took 5 screenshots
of it
gear mouth is awesome
3/3 ON ALL MISSIONS
||crystal wild edge|| figure description is hilarious
I hate these missions 
I took 223 screenshots while playing this
i love these missions 
i've already taken 196 and i've only beaten 3 stages
Dayum
completely unrelated to star-crossed world but you know those teleporty platforms that appear a couple times throughout the game? what if these were invented by the new worldians after using fecto elfilis's teleport powers
I did đ
stage 4 ||NEW MUSIC||
OH MY GOD NEW FIGURE ||NAP TIME???????????????||
||BUT WHERE IS BANDEE||
||BAD GAME||
stage 4 name ||LOOOOL the translation in english uses translation from japanese that was in fast-flowing waterworks (the "washed away at" part)||
||that is really funny that this translation is closer to japanese when the base game is not||
stage 4 ||THE RETURN OF GOLDEN FISH, THE BEST FORGOTTEN LAND CHARACTER||
shit i think i missed a mission
when you complete a mission: đ
when you realize it filled a mission slot and one above is not filled: đ
quick break time again
well I guess I will be beating this today huh (good thing)
but I won't go back to redo missions just yet

same as the mission I missed in stage 3 lol (it was the not get hit)
Fucking hate it when that happens bc theyâll lead you throughout the level and youâll miss JUST ONE part of the mission
I GOT THE SAME ONE
rip wanya....
I was so mad when I saw the english name of that one
I knew that was what we would get but
||WHAT IS THAT DESCRIPTION đđđ||
I wish they would retcon wa-wa
Whatâs the other name for it?
||KIRBY HOW DO YOU CHEW WITHOUT TEETH||
||
||
||it is so fucking funny though yeah LOL||
||Teeth Copy Ability||
but is it so fucking funny it makes you wann merge without looking
||errrm actually this proves kirby has teeth! I hope no one does this but I bet some will||
anyway stage 4 time
stage 4 ||I am curious what this remix will sound like||
||i love how every stage so far seems to have a unique remix||
it's nice to play a linear 3d platformer again after all the open-world-slop (/srs until the open-world-slop part)
btw RVH what mission number did you miss in stage 4
the first one after the regular "save all the starries" one
oh I figured it was this one
REAL
stage 4 ||me when I stand just to listen to the music||
let's hope there's nothing else you can spend starry coins on lol
stage 4 music ||THIS BASS GOES SO HARD??????||
OH MY FUCKING GOD
stage 4 music ||MALE VOCALS, GK VOICE CONFIRMED??????||
||I GOT THE GALACTAL|| FIGURE
MAJOR SPOILER BUT ALSO LIKE AN EARLY ONE
||LOREEE||
oh curious about the description of that one
yeah I want to get that one myself first
that was a very lucky last figure before i ran out of coins
||also elfilin why do you keep talking about a new present code in town||
i can't even find it
oh did now I miss a mission LOL
i think all the other ones in stage 4 you can just backtrack to
well ||mission 3 I assume you can't because it's the enemy rush but I got that one||
I missed ||2||
||and a hidden starry so yeah I will backtrack lol||
||it is the 4th hidden starry so I guess it's not that far||
i don't remember seeing this dialogue in the original game lol
oh I am stupid
well for the last starry at least
||FUCKING GOLDEN FISH I MISSED đ || stage 4 mission
this is fine
stage 5 ||crossing wondaria has the weirdest time signature ever||
wojak pointing at the ||neichel sign||
||me to fallen-star volcano||
||tbh I'm pretty sure it will turn into the final boss level later but it's so funny anyway||
true
how did this poppy bros who was standing in place avoid 5 of my bombs and then COUNTER one with his own bomb
yeah i missed another mission đ
more like
miss-ion
why did that get pinned đđ
because it's funny
lol
pin limit is now 250 too so
true
anyway time to do stage 5
stage 5 ||holy crap they used those star coin rings from the arch mouth sections outside of arch mouth sections||
realest shit
I FOUND A BLUE STARRY COIN LET'S GOO
I got two of the ||billboard|| figure back to back 
oh god that third mission in stage 5 is so stupid but I somehow got it đ
Winter Horns Time!
Lil tip, if you get spoiled accidentally, here is a trick that has helped me forget spoilers multiple times which someone dubbed (an fits perfectly), the : "Padded White Room Technique".
- Immediately start to manipulate yourself into believing that it's not real
- right after step 1, start something else that'll help you forget about the spoiler(s)
So, gaslighting yourself
oh thank goodness all missions in stage 5
stage 5 ||I almost thought I had missed the last awoofy sculpture but thankfully it was in the very last area lol||
stage 6 ||I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE WONDARIA DREAM PARADE REMIX||
||i missed the ferris wheel lol||
we're like perfectly in sync with our playthroughs
||figured lol I'm surprised I found that one||
I GOT ||GALACTAL|| FIGURE
cause i spent like 3 minutes just now adding this game to my list of played games on wikirby cause i thought it would be funny to say that i'm literally playing through it right now
||guess there's no much lore... oh wait of course this is just who GK becomes later right
||
that's funny, though I will likely take a bigger break now đ
nooo
also stage 5 music ||THAT HAS TO BE ISHIKAWA IT IS SO ISHIKAWA CODED INDEED||
HOLY SHIT THE STAGE 6 MUSIC
WHAT THE CRAP
||I DID NOT EXPECT FUCKING DUBSTEP LMAOO||
its fire thou fr
so does anyone know the missions for level 6
if you finish the stage it'll tell you one
alright I got one mission out of 3
wait
I missed something
now I have to replay the level after I'm done!
So fun!
omg
I missed too much starries
ok
uhh can someone tell me the third misson in stage 6
the one after save the hidden starries is ||dig up an energy drink||
I found that out the hard way
like it showed up after the level finished
dang
so whats the third quest
SHIT I MISSED A STARRY
The best Figure!
ok i was able to backtrack and i can get it now
I FOUND ANOTHER BLUE COIN I'M SO GOOD AT EXPLORATION
it's like i'm making some kinda,, discovery
hmm
Maybe you found something... forgotten?
i really hope i'll be able to find a hal room
i lost a full health bar đ
i missed 1.2 more missions đ
WHY DO I HAVE TO GET A MIGRAINE-ISH HEADACHE NOW OF ALL MOMENTS??
Canât play games with an aching head
||bonkers got run over by a car||
||Driving on my car right after a energy drink||
stage 6 ||i can't find this damn 5th starryflower||
||MOOD||
I am not looking forward to tearing my hair out trying to find ||a HAL Room... I don't know where it is, for the record, or if there even is any.||
nvm i found it i'm a genius
i even tried to look there before but thought there was nothing lol
and i just... failed the final mission anyway

||OH MY FUCKING GOD THERE'S A 4-STAR FIGURE OF THE NEICHEL SIGN||
||LORE???????? NEICHEL IS ACTUALLY FUCKING LORE IMPORTANT???||
I LOVE THIS GAME
oh yeah uh wondaria spoilers
a figure specifically
you'll know which one when you get it
HOLY SHIT
||IS THIS DESCRIBING WHEN THE NEW WORLDERS LEFT THE PLANET????||
this is so funny the description ||spoils that there are 12 stages đ||
||flashing arrow sign|| figure
ITS PEAK
||I think the most important thing added to the dlc is the new song added to tilt and roll kirby||
one of the missions in stage 6 is on par with no-hit twin wild frosty
not nearly as difficult but it gets close
as funny as they are, i do hope kumazaki will take himself up on that offer and makes next "lore dispensing tool" to be like a journal or a scrapbook instead of this stuff
magolor joins you on the next adventure and just writes down all the lore he finds
LET'S GO GAMBLING

YEAHH I GOT THE ASTRONOMER DEE FIGURE
PEAK
||astronomer waddle dee is canonically friends with wise waddle dee||
not a spoiler, just a thing i noticed in forgotten land's dlc. the way they animated cutscenes, they make kirby feel more like, a character, i guess. like he doesn't feel like he's just "there". he reacts, and emotes. turns his head around when conversation is between multiple people. i love it.
just wanted to point it out
makiko also voiced a lot of new grunts too which is awesome. kirby now makes muffled sounds when he has something in his mouth lol
early game cutscene ||I LOVED that it was kirby who noticed the first starry. legit. so peak. that was awesome even if small||
||okay yeah i've concluded that there's absolutely at least 1 more ex figure collection volume, as the sign mouth figures don't fit in the list||
imagine these kinds of cutscenes for the whole game.... in the next game......
drooling........
YEAH
as much as I am enjoying this this does make me wonder more about the next full game LOL
but I think we're in for a treat
PLEASE HELL GIVE US BACK THE LEVEL INTROS
SO TRUE
well if nothing else it reinforces that its gonna be a treat
yup
I'm not sure if it's because by now I'm used to the FL mission system, but even though I'm a bit eh about some missions, most feel fine for now?
though I'm surprised ||there have been no new treasure roads so far, unless that's later||
Yeah I noticed that something seems a lot more charming about Kirby this time around đ Iâm like âwhy do I love him even more than I normally do â
they have been increasing his personality ever since original release of FL
its kind of funny how this leaks into even the dlc lol
now next step is make kirby talk /hj
(I sadly don't think that will ever happen in a mainline but hey)
always a chance in an rpg...
stage 7 ||HOLY SHIT THE START OF THE MUSIC||
One of the funniest little details is how the changed the way the missions worked
they did?
they did?
I wonder if it's a result of the closer to japanese translation
They realized using obscure enemy names wouldâve been too confusing for some people so we get stuff like âDefeat the crystal monster that shoots meteors without getting hit by meteorsâ
Itâs so funny đ
Oh maybe that too
i wonder if its just a quirk of a dlc or a new direction
i certainly wouldnt mind
I'VE BEEN WONDERING THAT
there is one thing in particular... well you will see
but I already talked earlier about a stage name
thinking bit of both?
lol
kumazaki's writing for the series was already very colorful so i genuinely dont think they have to "punch up" the text for the translation much
so them dialing that back would be desirable
at least here's it's weird because stuff's basically tacked on to another game lol
the ||nap time|| figure description does look very directly translated in the best way possible LOL
YEAHH!! MORE DIRECT TRANSLATIONS!! EVEN THOUGH IT'S WEIRD THAT THEY STARTED DOING THIS BETTER WITH DLC SO THAT IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL GAME!!!!
the difference in translation direction is pretty noticeable and it's funny to see two directions in the same game
Yeah I noticed the way levels were named too FEELS fan translated. When the gameâs soundtrack was leaked I thought these were just like translated by a fan or translation thing translations but no I was surprised to see thatâs exactly how it was translated officially
wow
i remember hearing that one of the people involved with the original game's localization quit treehouse between og game's release and this dlc
so that would explain some things
oh interesting
yeah
plus kumazaki been talking about how he wanted to increase communication with the localizers
so maybe thats the end result of both factors
Before hand translation arguments kind of annoyed me I was like âwho caresâ but seeing how much it changes the vibe of the game I kind of get it now
In this case I really prefer it here.
The direct translations
yeah translation can change the vibe of any work A LOT
not many people talk about it but translation is an art not a science
you can translate the same thing in various ways, plus there's also localization
as someone who finished bachelors this year and has a lot of translation classes. yeah
something something shadow realm
kirby's translations from "graduate's" perspectives were always a mixed bag, i appreciate attempts at making the text flow well in english instead of making translation feeling wooden, but i feel like this dlc kind of avoids this issue while still being more direct
like when i read the new figurine descriptions it didnt feel unnatural to me even tho it felt different
