#Star-Crossed World (and Forgotten Land Switch 2 Edition)
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anyway funny (US vs UK vs JP)
though UK has town built but like that changes much
Like maybe the parallel forgo has its first phase against its fetus like form
It then wants to transform into smth like elfilis
fight doesn't even seem to take place there so it's probably just coincidence
And then galacta knight erupts out of its body
"What if villain stayed evil" ahh counterpart
along with all the contradicting stuff
find it hilarious (and sort of sad) people still think it's GK after demo figures and trailer both being very explicit with how plot is going lol
Elfilis and this new thing started the same... they had evil ambitions... and were sealed away...
But one of them had a literal piece of them become disgusted enough to split itself from the main body... The other might not share this scenario...
Pretty sure this new thing is going to DIE... twice even!
and also after the same people did it for Epilogue
(and arguably he had more going for himself there)
Magolor Epilogue helped me learned that
did not appear
so which means I will continuously say it will appear in future
The final boss is 
Concept art tied to a specific character unfortunately remains as concept art
me when Haltmann
Botsu san may be similar to Magolor, but that's like saying Morpho and Meta is similar so....
yeah that too lol
he was separate thing seemingly
especially considering the dev cycle
But surely you cannot keep making new characters from Magolor concepts... sure- nah nah we need them
Like, while I doubt we will actually get them anytime soon, it's a very cool design and I can see them being used in some future adventure, even if its not SCW related
okay tbf magolor is just too useful lol
you can shove magolor anywhere and call it a day
and no one will actually question stuff because, it's, magolor
SCW gonna introduce another fairy species late into the game
faye real????
They will look very similar... perhaps one driven with selfish ambition?
out of nowhere, we will see master crown reference
honestly it will be very funny if we actually see any form of master crown references in SCW, but first it's scary how there's literally some chance that Magolor can appear in SCW
like not saying he will
but his nature just makes it feel like anything is possible
this might sound lame but what if it's forgo again somehow even though they're dead
I mean if they're gonna introduce another of Elfilin's species that's cool but is it just gonna be a Forgo recolor? Even though we never technically fought it.
I don't think it's the same Forgo, another of their species sounds more likely
keep in mind this partially takes place during main story too
he will get a new figure (the figure is just an advertisement)
if it was same forgo, I feel like elfilin wouldve been more scared the second he sees them 
yeah lol
š° 
new theory
Astronomer Dee is Souvenir Dee in disguise, brought to you by Manager Magolor in Merry Magoland, which connects Magoland with Forgotten Land
anyway hear me out 
This is also clearly the reason why we see Souvenir Dee in the Wondaria ichiban kuji merchline, Magolor made him go check out his rival theme parks!
Haldera Volcano and the volcanic island are connected....
flawless, I think
I really like all the rock work for the mountains and such for Kirby games
Itās very cartoonish but also realistic and majestic, but not too realistic enough to level it makes you always think of reality
Similar to Disney I guess
Same for the crystals in this franchise
SCW crystals are so beautiful, but overall all these crystals throughout the years has always been astonishing
Itās just so beautiful I could eat it
Sent to gay baby jail until SCW
Whereās Goku and Magolor
dead
damn you don't care about Goku....
I only care for Magolor sorryā¦
but what if I told you Goku is Magolor 
i hope someone finds a new hammer super jump glitch in star-crossed world
or the switch 2 becomes moddable and someone makes another infinite hover mod
I mean I assume they'd patch it for all four if they do it
fire super jumps don't go nearly as high so i doubt you could even go out of bounds with it anywhere
yeah
things you can do with it are pretty small
real question is will they patch being able to duplicate Chaos Elfilis
The northeast frost street remix
I guess this scene could actually play with the town built like in the UK version if you're going into the DLC with a further on save
Oh god
jazz jumpscare
It probably just happens without Elfilin
Will you unlock the requirements to access the final boss but then the game will say: "Elfilin is still missing! Get him back from the Beast Pack before you can access this level."
I mean I'd just assume you can't until postgame since like
There's redgar SCW levels anyway
yeah
So maybe the scw levels unlock after defeating a worlds boss
is that one from a twitter post
if so which one
I only went to watch the overview trailer now
at the very least, possible window to do finale stuff would be very small (after stage 4 and before Lab Discovera)
and that's assuming there is nothing after
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I mean yea considering SCW doesn't unlock until after Gorimondo I'd assume that applies on a per world basis that you can't access Wondaria SCW stages until post Clawroline or Redgar SCW levels until post elfilis
there could very much be like. Lab Discovera stage
There are redgar levels tho
yes I said that
ty
sounds alright
A lab discovera level would prob be after defeating elfilis
what did you think after Stage 4 and before Lab Discovera meant lol
OH MY GOD
idk why i'm surprised by a northeast frost street rem-oh my god it includes the star-crossed world motif too
this makes sense though the trailer also implies you unlock them after beating a stage? unless that meant level can't remember the exact working
also funny main theme without neichel vocals felt weird /pos
yeah
it only says they start appearing after Nature Plains
in both English and JP versions
oh I just realized nintendo today may have the trailer dubbed in portuguese for me
brb
(footage and game in english though rip)
NOOO ITS IN EUROPEAN PORTUGUESE WHY
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Joeoverā¦
What do yāall think of Astronomer Dee
"ancient profecy of destruction" did english say this I forgot lol
I dont remember but sounds cool,,,
think if implication was after each world they would have said so and been way more careful with the footage
their just the same as the other special Waddle Dee that sells you what you're missing for a bunch of star coins
capsules/gatcha
Magolorās apprantice
Arenāt they neat though
portuguese didn't even mention natural plains in the unlock part just said "will appear as you progress through the game"
except maybe this is the only way you can get EX figurines
anyway it said this about the meteor
Just saw the trailer from the Nintendo Today app
Honestly seems quite promising, but I still don't really know much of the level flow though
their look is cute and a bit cool too
Considering how the new arena still kept the old bosses
Whatās up with Kirby and prophecies
maybe they serve some other purpose who knows
I feel it'll be like how RTDL DX's True Arena works compared to the original Wii version
But uh guess I'll be continuing from my 100% completed save
yeah I will just continue on my 100% file
Going to full on try to avoid spoilers until I beat it
I feel like I'm gonna end up playing through it three times š Once, continuing my original save. Once playing multiplayer. And maaaybe once playing from a fresh save to see how it feels when it unlocks as you go
Trust me I managed to finish RTDL DX and OG FL without spoilers
Fantastic experience that way
Not back to back though. That's madness
gear seems to be most fun
ngl that it feels overwhelming to progress through this game with SCW. you can beat a stage, unlock a starry stage, a treasure road stage, new things in waddle dee town... bleh
sign looks like a ground version of arch
that's a big reason why I will just jump to a 100% file
I predict Bandee will do something new
Yeah I'm curious how it'll feel with the pacing
easier to focus on new content
then there's just hi-jump
I feel I would feel so much FOMO doing SCW first on a brand new file
How many hours is that

like everything in the game? good question
Yes be overwhelmed newbie! We have big content for you to play around with!
I believe the last thing I did before I got 100% was getting a Waddle Dee on some random level in the second world
it depends on the player
at least you can mostly ignore the Starry Stages for playthrough still
yeah I know some people like one million things to do
How long to puts the "completionist" average time for the current game as about 26hrs. So it'll depend on how big the SCW stuff is how much it adds
me? there's a reason I still have to beat xenoblade x lol
and not have to see most of the unlock animations lol
also so true love astronomer dee
again they're more or less extra levels like in the past 3 games so it depends
except they're more new?
I have to be really deliberate and intentional about playing games with lots of stuff to do, or else I'll get mired in all the side stuff and eventually get overwhelmed and quit
same
also depends on if you count things that are tracked but don't add to the percentage
new music, a few more gameplay additions
Itās best to take it at your own pace
serve more story function
That goes for any game
Yeah. I just like using how long to beat as a good quick ballpark
by that I mean who is gonna get max amount of each figure this time
Me
typman forced to suffer again
I do hate how FOMO and people posting spoilers online ruins some games for me now
I often want to go at my own pace but FOMO š
I'm actually kinda hoping SCW is just a few hours of new stuff, so I can enjoy it at my own pace but also not have to drop offline for as long 
it seems to be about 2-3 stages per area and then most likely a new boss so i don't think it'll take too long to play through
you have to get 9 of each figure before you can fight the final boss
My guess is 3 hours
Iām considering whether to replay fl for the second time this year before the dlc
Ah, we're taking the DMT approach here
i'll probably replay the whole game again soon after playing just star-crossed world to see how it works playing it alongside the main game
I feel like length for me will also partially depend on how much I struggle with the new arena lol or if I decide I don't want to, that's always an option
however long the main game is, I see it being like 1/2 that
I just don't count arenas for play time tbh
imagine if you had to redo an existing book just so you can slot in an entire new subplot in the middle of the existing story so that way you can then raise the price and justify it
Yeah, because they're so highly variable. Speedrunner vs me times, for example
me looking at the sign outside ultimate cup z ex that says no abilities allowed
woomy roleplaying a person that needs to touch grass
Arenāt we all
welcome back no yoshi sign
me looking at the sign outside that says no +ā abilities and no Normal Kirby (If you have full +ā your switch explodes)
me looking at the sign that says no Kirby
Bandee only
they introduce a third difficulty option exclusive to this cup so that way you can't complain about game not being hard enough 
Peak
Actually that would be awesome
HIAD got away with being free because...
ban Toy Hammer please
mmmmustard
SCW's got more new stuff going on... But again again and again...
Assuming there's brand new locales beyond the crystal infection
Im pretty sure thereās a good chance weāll get a whole new world in this dlc
Idk I just feel like thereās a good chance that would happen
has this been elaborated on at all
Like maybe a small handful of fully ground up levels at the crash site island or if kirby is taken up to like another island or something idk
it's where bit of Story stuff is (like intro)
but they haven't showed us a non-cutscene view of it
Weāve seen it up close thatās about it
And it very clearly is supposed to be or at least heavily resembles that fecto forgo inside
Maybe it's where we go to trigger the final boss (or whatever final challenge the dlc has)
we're going back to Floralia (Starry Edition)

Plot twist
Instead of a final boss, we get a souped up version of the stair mouth treasure road puzzle
and stuff later on is still in there
Iām still banking on new treasure roads
probably will for new mouthfuls
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Treasure roads gonna be in the new worlds
oops
Always bet on Galacta Knight
real question is will they have new aesthetics
you're right it will be in the NEW WORLD
I'm betting on Sectonia and Qbby
Evolutions haven't been shown because they're either major fanservice or are heavily plot related
Qbby mouthful
please do not eat the cube
Yk if the star crossed final boss does involve fecto forgo instead of a parallel fecto, or a different member of the species then that means weād take down fecto forgo like 3 times in this games overall plot
That is one persistent antagonist lmao
it's a bomb in disguise
Why don't they just rip off all the wisps at this point smh
Yk what a good question is what will the new hal room look like? And where will it be?
Thereās definitely gonna be a new hal room
It'll be in Forgo's stomach

There has been a Hal room for every odd-numbered world
Didn't they just show using abilities in the trailer?
But imagine some future Kirby game having a shadow achievement for something like that
Perhaps SCW switches it up by having HAL rooms for every EVEN numbered world?
It was a joke
Theyāre joking lol
hope there's non-HAL secret room too
True
The hotel secret room is so cool
have we seen Starry equivalent of Blizzard Bridge at all yet
wonder if it will still be midboss rush or not
no?
We know there's some crystal elevator thing leading from the volcano to some crystal place in the sky
Probably in an out of world level maybe
it's funny they still show that one new enemy
however they say enemies and not enemy
That's absolutely an extension/servant of the evil heart rat
can they be more subtle than that?
You think a star crossed mid boss rush would also have the secret harder path thats usually in the midboss tower levels?
Also fun easter egg: there's these banners and signs all over Alivel Mall that translate to "Anniversary Sale", most likely a nod towards the 30th anniversary of Kirby that year:)
probably
could make it all Twin bosses (again)
Triple bosses
I wonder if the phantom bosses in UCZex will be any different
Or will something happen to Kirby instead?
might have new moves or different patterns
My turn to beg for mercy š
don't think we could tell from Gorimondo though
They will absolutely force some sort of hard mode like RTDL's true arena did
(Actually I can't remember)
it's Poppy Bros Sr. like everyone asked 
I know the OG Soul Melter had halved HP
I kinda doubt it but then again the mid bosses in the main game did have harder variants and patterns even though they didnāt have a surface level design change.
Speaking of which I think someone mentioned that gorimondo had more resistance or something earlier so maybe they have more health but idk
I can see them changing up attack patterns in some way but who knows
there's also Revenge bosses in TDX having different patterns despite nothing visually being different
Maybe we get a surprise second phase of the bosses where they grow a bunch of crystals and wreck face
and SA having some bosses like this too
Star allies had some?
SMEX Goldon & Silvox too I think?
Funny Guest Star Hyness just being a hidden harder version
they just have health increase and different pause screen
SMEX Goldon Silvox just have like 1.5x HP and are otherwise the same
but there is the Mages, though only the name isn't different overall (even appearence is different in SMEX)
Oh did someone compare
I mentioned someone should go and check but I didn't
Zan's most notable move difference with those three
funny more outward Lightning Lemonade
oh right there is also Falluna Whispy I guess
no
I know it doesn't have the dark aura but I think it actually uses base whispy
Ok yea
Or wait does it have the dark aura and I'm just remembering wrong actually
Ok nvm I'm just remembering wrong TUC Whispy does have the dark aura
So it is just regualr whispy directly
40 more hrs of content 
Nah RtDL true arena gives you full health
A'ight, I'll see you again in six months
i think the thing i'm most excited about for this expansion is actually the music
every new track in the trailer sounds like... kinda heavenly???
SA is the only one that nerfs Kirby, Kirby has 70% HP in Soul Melter and 80% HP in Fiery Showdown and Infernal Crisis
and i mean like kirby music being good, of course it is, but man
Or well, every character, not just Kirby
i'm really happy there'll be a much greater variety of music compared to forgo dreams
Meanwhile Soul Melter EX gives you full HP again and also the stronger star bullets from HiAD
"best i can do is two tracks"
and they were two very good tracks! but still
Scattered Souls Across Isolated Isles my beloved (also RtDL reference too)
Oh but should also note that in the first place the helpers and dream friends have different base HP in TUC than in other modes
So like 70% soul melter Adeleine actually has like 21 HP compared to her normal 20 HP in other modes iirc
Woah
The lowest HP you can have in all of Star Allies is when you have 0 defense hearts in guest star adeleine & ribbon
at 0 defense hearts you have 80% of normal HP so Adeleine & Ribbon only has 16 HP there
16HP Adeleine and Ribbon was terrifying to do
ado when she dies in 3 hits
wonder if anyone's done full Adeleine no Power-Ups Guest Star run
Neichel fight but she dies in single hit
(and minimum Friends I guess)
Imagine dying to a bread that looks like your shoes
hoddog
Will a Hotdog kill Neichel?
Oh wtf I checked to make sure what I said was right but apparently the 80% HP also applies to Sizzling Threat and not just Fiery Showdown and Infernal Crisis
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
Ok I went to phantom gorimondo
Now I canāt really tell definitively but I thiiiiiiiiiiiiiink they maiiight have more health in the EX arena
But if they do it feels very slight
I'm not sure if I see a difference in damage rate just from watching casually
Yea it feels like a placebo affect if anything
bosses have 1 more HP each
Finally a challenging kirby arena
insert pepe silvia meme here
wait until people learn about the million other characters with crystal and heart motifs
im not getting my hopes up but it is a comical ammount of coincidence
really I doubt GK is a Starry either, they still look more similar to Elflin/Elfilis and Lor if anything lol
Its definitely either aeon hero or hyness
im not saying gk is a starry but i am proposing that the starries may have connections to the ancients/galacta knight
they might but I don't think it's super-direct at least
heart I think is only vaguely related to Jamba too
you never know man š¤·
Trust me, everything goes back to Magolor
especially due to the uncrystalized thing
And magolor goes back to
You guessed it
with how much kirby has been teasing ancients lore the past couple of years id be surprised if there isnt at least some in scw too
theyve been doing it since like, robobot
yeah yeah but TECHNICALLY theres no direct link to the new world inhabitants and the ancients we know
But it would make sense if they got the ability to travel from forgo
well whatever spaghetti of conspiracy links galacta knight, the people magolor speak about, and the people hyness speak about
and New World language is linked to Jambastion one (and Halcandra) anyhow lol
The starry symbol with the swirl and the four point looks very reminiscent of the emblem on the Lor's sail
yeah the words are similar
oh my god it does
GALACTA KNIGHT NOOO
me when ćć”ć«ć (faruda) and ćć«ć (haruda) mean heart
august 28 is still so far away
I can wait
...
WHATS TAKING SO LONG
they gotta add 700 more ancient motifs into it
you can say its all coincidence but the truth is the motifs are THERE
Final boss of scw will have the funny elfilis background but it looks very suspiciously like Another Dimension
and ćć¼ć·ć£ć¹ (mÄshasu) and ććøć·ć£ć¹ (majishasu) means tasty
and ćć« (niru) means you
and ćøć£ć (jaha) means hinderance-
anxiety coloured
do wonder if they'll give any more New World vocal language stuff in SCW
ooo i hope so
Final boss please have lyrics in your theme š
void termina 2
I want them to be in Alivel remix lol
also NEW MUSIC WOOO
are we getting another true final boss?
I want persona music in my kitby game
especially since they dropped them in soundtrack booklet
Probably, we have another arena
whatevers in that heart id bet

That or it will be like magolor soul from the rtdl dx true arena
why wouldn't we
else we wouldn't have those late game cutscenes or ZEX
unfair elfilis soul
I guess so
and ZEX will probably have unique one beyond that too
even if it is Chaos Elfilis variant
curious about who's behind this meteor and stuff
what if it's just regular Chaos Elfilis
wait we're just calling it that now?
ZEX?
wtf is ZEX
...we have since it was announced?
Ultimate cup z ex
oh
yeah
why is it called ultimate cup z anyway. what does the z mean
Nah
Zirby
i see
ZettÅ (Isolated Isles)
hold on let me check something
mentioned it in soundtrack booklet lol
oh shit no way
what a funny abbreviation
almost sounds like⦠uh nevermind 
I'm sure nobody will change it to you know what
FEX - Subways of your mind
it's also got "finality" connotations due to Z being the last letter of the English alphabet so that double meaning is probably why they chose it
Since ancient times
yeah, tbh I thought it was just from that and it being common in JP stuff until soundtrack came out
I mean the soundtrack's zettou tie is more like a pun than a meaning
Lets call it the ultimate cup zx
They've been using Z since the Z games which get localized as Deluxe games
every boss rush mode since kss is basically just a slightly different version of the arena, if not just the arena itself. hell even smash bros has an arena
they directly mentioned it being from it so idk
but yeah that's partially what I meant lol
even with (S)DX variants in Clash games being (S)Z
Still so cursed that SDX is an EN thing only
same, I originally thought it was Super Deluxe reference lmao
I guess it makes sense that they changed it but it's crazy that the DX versions in the original were just Z
Whoās better? Neichel or Pauline?
Migu
susie
Kirby
kirby is canonically ass at singing
No he isnāt 
explain
(he literally is and even the pause screens agknowledge it)
me when singing so bad not even Shepard's Purse grows
even English keeps that sometimes
what is Shepard's Purse
type of weed
I love how he signs Sings Kihon wa Maru, beautifulā¦
'Music usually has a comforting effect, but that depends on who's singing. Luckily, Kirby only has enough energy to sing three songs.'
:)
right on the starry money faye, now how much do people owe you in return? 
Itās a joke lol
But nice to know once again from a Kirby nerd
they're also mentioned in Where Even Weeds Won't Grow's JP title btw
yeah it's not surprising they dumbed it down a bit because I doubt it's the same connotations in JP
I assume the weed's name is much more commonly known in JP at least
yeah
I wish I was knew a lot about Kirby like Ultrby.
not known enough here that people mistranslated it as grass for a while lol
Like i even think Ultrby has the most Kirby knowledge in the whole server
Youre telling me
Kirby's singing is SO bad
that it rivals the evil energy of the jamba cult
NO ITS NOT
lmao yeah
guess so
will note there's Walky in first stage that that song plays too though (whether that's intentional reference or not)
don't forget all the instances of people being horrified of his singing in stuff
https://vxtwitter.com/Kirby_JP/status/867575970886111236
https://vxtwitter.com/Kirby_JP/status/1211935101472276480
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nothing causes more pain lmao
I love that one of the consistent traits of kirby is pretty much all media is his bad singing LOL
yeah
and it's been present ever since DL1 (Mike item moment)
When will kirby get the autotune ability
There just afraid of how good Kirby sings smh
i like to think that he sings very good, just at insanely high decibel
i wonderi f the reason this meteor is crashing into the FL is because of thep ortals fecto forgo opened up initially
oh right I forgot even the merch got in on it lmao
maybe
though Starries seem tied to another dimension in general so who knows
assume they were wandering there beforehand at least
actually
what if Kirby has an innate power of bringing in horrors beyond space
that both Kirby and the horrors dont know
and since Kirby was in Forgotten Land, it caued a meteor to crash
toby fox leitmotif chart but its just kirby lore with all its vague allusions to other things
everything boils down to ancients and/or dark matter
not quantifiable
nah I'd want visual motif chart
to see how many fuckers share heart, star, moon, crystal, darkness, eye, etc. motifs
oh and hexagons, that one's also important I think
the weird little stripe design on magolor that shows up a few too many times
if i had a dollar for every final boss in kirby that had some form resembling a sphere id have quite a bit of money
i want ones that resemble demonds from hell already
nah, maybe these kinds of zigzag patterns though
chart of every religious reference in kirby (90 percent of it is magolor related)
what about the Jambastion part
what about it
how much does that take
hmm good point
id say about one third jambastion, one half magolor, and the rest is everything else
and do Greek myths count so I could shove Leon in there
ah so Dreamstalk/World Tree and Yggy too
and the other TDX stuff I guess
funny Joronia
they really went "we're gonna combine christian symbolism and norse mythology in one boss"
look me in the eyes and tell me the magolor epilogue is not a massive garden of eden reference
Eden Room moment
Can't wait for SCW with the moses moment
the master crown shares the eye motif with dark matter void termina uses the master crown in its attacks void terminas mask appears on star dream morpho knights sword has an eye similar to the ones on void termina aeon hero uses the heart spears that were in the jamba heart void terminas true form looks like dark matter void terminas wings look like zero twos wings magolors hood has the same stripes as hyness's antenna magolor soul uses swords that look like galaxia
and the connections go on
was thinking something simpler but sure that works too lmao
i think mine reflects the madness of being obsessed with kirby lore
the true arena magolor soul background has an orb that looks just like void termina, void termina uses the elemental galaxia variants in its attacks, the magic rings around magolors second form's wrists appear in another dimension in ksa, the ancients magolor studies made the master crown and the nova blueprints that haltmann finds in robobot
You know I just realized thereās a possibility to include a Morpho Knight EX fight in ZEX
Looking upon the crystals, you're shown through the lense a world that had always been there, but never tangible until now
Things affected by them become stronger
...Ok let's cut to the chase: DELTARUNE
Shadow Crystals
The crystals manifest non-existing things into the physical world
Creatures become empowered within these odd corrupted planes of space
Fecto Forgo EX lol
You think we're getting Phantom Leongar now?
leon soul
Everything
That meteor is gonna start the Roaring bro
Leongarās Roaring
Ok FR should the villain be redeemable or can we actually kill them this time?
DEATH
Actually Elfilis was very fucking evil despite everything, we had to beat the absolute SOUL out of them for them to submit... and then get eaten by Elfilin
well actually, the main villain usually lives. its often the 'man behind the man' that dies (sectonia, master crown, star dream, elfilis, void termina)
i mean magolor kinda falls into both categories
because somehow rtdl has like 4 'final' bosses
taranza lives and sectonia dies, susie lives and haltmann and star dream die, hyness lives and void termina dies, leongar lives and elfilis dies
thats how it is
I feel like it will end with the meteor being sealed away for good this time?
Meteor Elfilis
i mean, thats just kind of how kirby story structure goes, theres the villain and then the ACTUAL villain at the end. its been a series staple since adventure
everyone says Morpho Knight EX will show up
no we just destroy it for real
ā¦Yeah? But I was mainly responding to if the villain is going to die or not like Zerbie said earlier lol
okay technically its concept art so it doesnt fully count butttt
maybe it goes into the sky
and we access it via volcano platforming rising in the sky
kirby games usually end with murdering the evil for good (unless it reincarnates or something like zero)
Bro morpho knight is so fucking cool š
imagine what it wouldve been like in gcn
then turns out the meteor is just
i wouldnt be surprised
It reminds me alot of the black moon from shadow generations
Probably would've been a super form for meta knight
this game has none of your eyes
what
Yeah i think it would've been meta knights equivalent to masked dedede
your eyes
Try 8
||Galeem and Dharkon canon in Kirby would honestly be badass ngl||
2021 š“
Wow you guys called it
More ancient idiots
oh my god
They will never make FL DLC with Ultimate Cup Z EX
Me seeing this message and getting sent back to the very first r/Kirby post
i hope any of the new fights they add are like interesting
Genuinely canāt wait to see what they do for the final boss
I have a weird feeling my dreams tonight are gonna be about Galacta Knight, Dark Nebula, Neichel, Kirby, Elfilin, Bandee, all the Beast Pack members and the Starries all singing together in harmony
so silly how they didn't even bother recoloring gorimondo
all the new bosses will just create crystal shockwaves 
it really is a gatcha game, huh
Iām gonna keep having this dream on repeat until SCW releases š

Like where are we going broā¦
honestly I dont expect most of the new bosses to be that challenging considering you gain access to the new mode as soon as you complete a world
crystal heaven
Trueeeee
yeah the real challenge will come in ultimate cup zex's final round
SCW bosses (if any) may be slightly easier than phantoms
Final Destination 7 Sky World
āOnward and Upward!ā
nah i think like Star-Crossed World is the equivalent of EX stages from the 3DS games
think they will be easier since the phantoms are pretty cracked (when they're not dying in a few hits against upgraded abilities)
why am i being pogged
you are so true Clay
remake triple deluxe
I agree with you 1000%*
but that isnt popstar's sky
turns out new world's equivalent of mirror world is a crystal hell
but that's just Forgo Dreams again no?
no
unless this is the Starry World
It probably is space
That or at least like maybe a sky island
Well yea I also mean the final boss area could be in space
Like potentially it and some potential levels
Krackystal
The thing in the meteor looks fleshy
It is The Evil from Voices of the Void
It looks like fecto forgo
I'm trying to figure out the texture on the twisted parts
Simultaneously looks like wood, metal, and matted fur
a defined material
They kinda remind me of clamshells now that Im looking at it
natural
Yea natural is a good word
plains
I'm surprised we never explored an abandoned overgrown airport
but I guess all they figured out was a car to make and that's about it
or a truck or a bus
bones/horns
flying does not matter in this world I guess
except if you're Kirby and you have the power to glide with an archway of all things
Once you discover portal travel air ports are no longer needed (people are too attached to their cars to give them up though)
I wouldn't be surprised if the Ancients could just fly
Lotta things in kirby can already do it
Kirby pulling up to the top of the crystal island in the sky to be met with crystal elfilis doing this with Antares:
Also exploring an air port would probably be very similar to exploring a mall anyway. Unless you spent a lot of time around the planes themselves I guess
How did they fly? Idk
Thank you roaring knight very cool
https://www.nintendo.com/us/whatsnew/see-how-kirby-and-the-forgotten-land-is-getting-even-meteor/ oh hey US site put out really small article while I wasn't looking
the page is still not updated though lmao
US site writer does not know directions
It's bc they reused the text from the news app directly within the switch
Where it is above
ah lmao
...they just didn't change it for the website version
Definitely one of the worst puns I've heard today
i do feel like there's probably only enough budget to add like
3 new bosses at most including the final bosses
considering the rest are upgraded minibosses
there's also probably going to be Morpho Knight EX because that's easy to return i suppose
which probably means no galacta knight either but eh
they could probably add a dedicated Soul Forgo fight in UCZEX if they wanted to but i dunno what that would look like
Forgo Leon without the Leon?
Fecto Forgo hallway but not a hallway
thats not soul forgo
Morpho EX better be in a pretty arena because no way in hell am I gonna fight that guy in Forgo Labs with that color-palette on!
Inb4 we fight him here
Or maybe forgo land but destroyed and wi tbh the heaven background sky
i assume they'll probably reuse another boss arena again
maybe even just the lab discovera arena
Imagine we fight him on the helicopter pad like with Elfilis
The way the fourth star is slapped on reminds me of this
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Wow this one sure is long š š
Waaa I wanna eat glass
The drink being called beginning meteor thoā¦
They should put in ice cubes that have little starries freezes inside
Sparkling Meteor cake and Starry World ~Beginning Meteor~ drink⦠ughghghhghhg
When the October cafe reservation drops Iām def gonna go during my fall break
What does this mean for sound of Kirby cafeā¦
Especially Osaka, since Iām planning to visit for the train event
Tbh I can expect new song coming to Cafe around the time, but canāt guarantee if the song will be SCW, or another random music
is it me or the new footage looks even better than before the debut trailer.
Like itās hard to tell if Cafe 3 music will have SCW, but in this pass itās possible
maybe it's the lighting
You know the game release is getting close when you get emails from Nintendo about SCW
quite the stairs
Peak
I wonder if the stars are rock candy or jelly
Relly
spot the waddle
Why are 3 waddle dees there
Were they being carried off by the beast gang
Or what if theres a beast gang member on the island, kirby fights them, and after breaking the cage the waddle dees wander off to find the heart
*It
*them
I wasn't sure if Tamagolor was referring to Morpho because that was right after your message, or Elfilis' crazy sister...
Stone?
Like basalt columns
Hair Gel
man, if we get level 4 hats for every ability, I think the dlc is more than the price of entry.
i def dont think thats on the table
I hope we get one or two new upgrades, though.
Yeah like sleep and crash
How would make not one, but TWO more upgrades for the both of them?
I think they're fine as is
But yeah some other abilities getting upgrades would be cool
(There's more if you jump to it)
prolly a crystal theme or something related to whatever the final boss is for one more ultimate ability like wild hammer and morpho sword
bro why are these waddle dees just hanging around here š
becuz it's all purty
adds further to this being another hub area or something similar
they came to just watch
now whether they're extra dees who don't appear in town or are from town but appear here all the time or at one point can be for debate before August 28
least to know is that Waddle Dees can only appear if you save them in stages
however we don't know is where do Starries go once you free them
prolly to the volcano
in the first one you can see the meteor has one chunk of crystal on it while the next pic does not feature such
guessing that is where the starries if not appearing by themselves, if not both or one or the other we still don't know
here's anther comparison shot for ya
i think the biggest change with the graphics would just be bolder colors (maybe due to HDR) and shadows
I think its pretty apparent that the Dark Star will unfurl itself when it awakens to face us
||The Dark Star is none other than Dark Nebulaās sister Nark (Narcissistic) Debula||
The longer I look at the meteor, the more it looks like an Elfilis-adjacent being
Those ears
Plus the meteor was described as planet-destroying, probably because of a planet destroying being that has yet to wake, probably on a similar threat level to Elfilis
I think so too
Yea its very likely fecto forgo
Maybe it is fecto forgo, maybe its like a parallel forgo
Who knows
Phantom Parallel Fecto Forgo Soul EX Revenge DX
-ās revenge 2.0
(Dark)
And here we are!
Lol
The thing is, assuming it is the main forgo themselves then like how would they get here? Like wouldnāt they have to be either sealed or in forgo dreams? Or partially reunited with elfilin? So the more I think about it the more I feel like it has to be a parallel forgo to work. So it doesnāt intersect with or undermine the main story
"I lived DUMMIES"
Phantom Parallel Dark Fecto Forgo Soul EX Revenge 2.0 DX Returns
Maybe weāll actually get a proper fight with them this time
(Not having another fakeout like with Morpho)
Maybe it was another member of their species, a separate entity from forgo
Maybe
As you can see, Soul Forgo went up, the meteor falls from the sky, therefore the soul forgo returned via meteor, and chaos elfilis is noncanon 
HAL, make this the name
Literally waning crescent Masked Dedede & waxing crescent Masked Meta Knight flashback
Funnily though if this does turn out to be a round about version of main forgo it would probably mean that forgo needed to be killed like 3 times in canon to actually stay down
Bro is persistent as hell 
William Afton's new fursona

more like 4, counting Forgo Dreams stuff and Chaos Elfilis as seperate
not even Morpho can kill that thing
When you so hateful not even the god of death can keep you down 
Maybe this time it'll be smart enough to just teleport away instead of risking getting stuck on the Forgotten Land by fighting something way out of its league
(Probably not though. The dude is so salty from what happened it'll always try and get some clap back before leaving)
Forgo and elfilis are the epitome of āwe canāt end on a lostā
Actually wait can you imagine like again if this is main forgo and you beat the ultimate cup Z before then if bro would just absorb the one little tiny part of their soul that stayed with elfilin like- āI LIED GIVE IT BACK!ā
What the idea of fecto coming back?
yes
the true arena felt like an already good send off
I rather it just be a relative or parallel forgo
Well again we canāt say for certain it is main forgo. Again it most likely isnāt just for the side story to work
Weāre just kinda playing around with the idea of how funny it would be if it was main forgo. Either way we canāt be certain until the dlc drops
The final True Arena enemy will be a phantom projection of Elfilis' distorted memory of the ancients
But it's been such a long time that its' memory of them is so muddled that they're like a monster of ever changing and shifting Darkness
No way they're solely for more figurines
If they were they probably wouldāve showed it off
Unless they want to hide the fact that you can buy special starry juice from the pharmacy or something
Maybe they can be used as an alternative currency for certain things
You can take them to Carpenter Waddle Dee so he can give your copy ability hats an astral look like Astronemer Dee's hat
Maybe the new EX arena will let you retry with the starry coins instead of the main coins
I can see that being a possibility 
Actually there was that crystal car-mouth cake
Oh youāre right
Maybe there's special food and drugs that give bigger boosts than the normal ones, but can only be bought with those coins
maybe every ability getting another upgrade is a bit much but I still think at least 1 or 2
maybe new minigames? lol
Booming blasters 2!
Oh yeah an obvious use would be for any new ability upgrades
They could add a new power up food item that magnetizes coins towards for however long its active
There's already drugs for attack and speed, maybe one for defense?
Though I guess the one that gives you an extra health-bar effectively accomplishes the same thing
If there are new upgrades would they just give Hammer and Sword ANOTHER extra upgrade since they're the only two that had more upgrades than the rest?
I could see them just not getting new upgrades
Me too
They don't really need ones
Kirby always showcases defense, even when its a shield, as more HP though
Yeah that's kinda what I said
If there is a new upgrade it would have to be an end game upgrade like morpho sword anyway, otherwise theyād put it in the trailer
(Watch it be like the 5th sword or hammer upgrade
)
Finally Beam Kirby in 3D
There's gonna be things they're going to hide prerelease
Even if they happen relatively early
Well yea but the thing is whenever thereās anything copy ability related unless its end game its usually plastered literally all over the marketing
So if there was something non spoilery to show then they probably wouldāve showed it
I wonder what lore the figures will have
Yeah itās called Starry Sleep Kirby and Gem Apple Bomb
I'd rather other abilities get more upgrades than the already very powerful Morpho sword and Dedede hammer getting hyper-special-secret-EX-DX-2.0.-Soul 5th upgrades
And Ultimate Cup ZEX will likely have a first time clear award for the figure of the final final final boss
Yes its probably that gameās elfilis or massive secret final boss figure
It's kinda awkward how even after getting the Chaos Elfilis figure from beating the Ultimate Cup Z, you still have to buy one more
That being Phantom Meta Knight
Finally we can decorate Kirby's shelf with all Elfilis figures
Thats because two free rare figures is too generous for the waddle dee manufacturers lol
(Elfilis is legitimately one of my favorite final boss designs in Kirby)
Also if the EX figures have multiple series' I wonder how that's gonna work with Astro Boy Dee or whatever his name was again
Will there just be multiple boxes and you select which one you wanna pull from when you speak to him?
Astronomer waddle dee? Also yea probably, maybe he will just have two boxes. The fact the EX line of figures is even numbered 1 implies thereās gonna be multiple figurine lines
Yeah
Magolor Soul and Void Termina are up there too imo
MAGOLOR SOUL MENTIONED
Yes
Could be the first one is for the remixed levels and whatnot and then the second has all the finale ones
I don't think there's a single bad final boss design
Speaking of bosses I wonder how the fight of the new campaign/arena will go
Specifically what I'm getting at is I hope it doesn't accidentally have a Chaos Elfilis issue where you can ironically just jump and float in their first phase and that let's you easily dodge like 3/4 of their attacksš
Star-Crossed World š
crystal dark nebula soul
Okay maybe Necrodeus looks a l'il dumb honestly
Indeed
Also Dark Nebula gifs are hilarious, the heckš
Who invited Ganon
his descriptions gonna be like kracko's where he goes "I was treated poorly and internet meme for almost 2 decade... now it is my time to seek revenge"
Kirby fanbase when they see Dark Nebula in full power: āI shouldnāt have doubted you so easilyā¦ā
Dark Crafter mentioned
dark crafter vs dark nebula, battle of the weaklings
Why is Dark Crafter doing the Bigweld pose
š
mfw dark crafter and dark nebula both has amazing names, cool design, cool concept, majestic music that both received cafe remix, yet the fight itself is literal mid
everything is peak until you mention the battle
āYOU! I remember your discord posts! The time you called me a hater! The time you dissolved my cafe drink! Theresā¦.sniffā¦.something in my eyeā
there's triple star in your eye
LMAO


Itās time for Star-Crossed World to give him justice
(I really really REALLY want Dark Starries)
dark nebula fandom vs galacta knight fandom fighting over which boss will show up (neither will show up)
Where are all these dark nebula gifs coming from?! š
That look identical to Dark Nebula
I kinda caused it
If this were a Mario campaign they'd probably call them Ztarriez
I spread the dark nebula propaganda by mentioning how japanese community treats him
and people fell in love with dark nebby
Well thank you!
and started making bunch of gifs in #galactic-general
Love it
"You...got a sitar..."
Did you make those gifs then?
I'd like to see a scenario where Dark Rimuru, Rimura and Rimuro survived Kirby 64, they take revenge, and we get a triple boss battle against them, but it'll probably never happen.
when the world crossed the stars
they should give more gifs to these dummies
a million more Dark Star gifs when
not me lol but peopple around me
I only spite them
If Nintendo makes another Wario Land game they should call it Zuper Wario Īand
Well those gifs are 12/10 regardless
(the Dark Star gifs will just be of the star bouncing)
...What does Dark Nebula surgery entail?
Does it involve sitting in a treasure box?
you turn into dark nebula
Bouncing Boss Battle
Sick
Can we do dark nebula gifs with more characters?
We should all make Dark Nebulasonas
when can I have Daroach surgery
I want Morpho surgery
where's my Droppy gifs smh

When you're so mid the MC doesn't even need the special mcguffin that counters you to defeat you
Thatās not the video I was looking for š š
(It does show dark nebula in the end)
That double slap was devious
If we collect every Starry will some of them be floating around Waddle Dee Town? That'd be neat
Dark Meowbulaā¦
No its king deez universe bandee
Iām betting theyāre all gonna die (used to seal away) 
I forgot how cute Bandee looked (me who has no friends)
Elfilis' crazy sister fucks everything up and the universe has to be reset
Bandee is such a troll
Donāt worry, when the game gets updated it will get gamechat online and we can play together
Hehehehahahahahā¦..right hal? A mainline kirby game with online multiplayer? The opportunity is here now! Yall can do it! Hehehheeh ahhahahahaha, HAAAAAAAAAAAH 
Iām still betting this shot is from the ending where the Starries completely seal up the Dark Star
Or it could be before the final area where something goes wrong lol
God bro who are we gonna fight itās crazy 
bets on Dale anyways
I will always bet on Neichel
Iād rather see RTDLDX getting one before Fl + SCW tbh š š
Not that KSA is bad or anything and no bias (trust me, no bias, totally), I want RTDLDXā¦. Subgames too
Or⦠RTDLDX getting switch 2 update which adds like magoland expansion maybe⦠maybe�
What if hal decided to be based and gave ALL of these games game chat online 
Itās like, RTDLDX > KSA > FL for me
I think this might actually be the start
Bandee will get his own campaign one of these daysš¤
Like this is Elfilis' crazy sister breaking out of the seal, but they still aren't truly awakened yet
And so we have to get the starries to seal them back up
Hal if adding online to the Kirby games that actually matter was a test
We see another shot where they still have a bit of the crystal on them
And we'll finally be able to take on Dark Dream Scarf Dee (he wears the trademark bandana as a scarf for reasons)
Oh good point
The fact that phantom bosses show up in The Ultimate Cup Z EX (Oh god that does not look good when written down like that) does give me hope that there'll be a portion of the game locked behind beating at LEAST Forgo Dreams
Though more likely also post-U.C.Z.
Which would be very cool because then we can Elfilin having transformed into Fecto Elfilis Vs. Elfilis' crazy sister
Equal footing and all
We need the ultimate cup Z-EX DX 2.0 revenge soul O.S.
Finally those boss mods of Elfilis' core and its chaos form attacking you simultaneously will be made canon
... Melter Meter Ultra Spicy Flavor
Nah it'd be more like Elfilis but you also have your own Elfilis helping you out
Think Splatoon 3 or Sonic Unleashed where you have your own big partner keeping the final boss at bay while you have to hit the weak points
After traveling with Bandana Dee Elfilin learns how to wield his own Spear
Do you think Elfilis' crazy sister will have a different weapon instead of just a spear again?
Seems like an easy way to help differentiate the fight rather than just making it even harder
Especially if they end up making it even harderER if they end up getting their own Chaos Elfilis-type form in the U.C.Z.EX.
I assume if they're even that much like Elfilis they'd have different weapon at least
or at least a different name for it
Their new weapon is trying to run US over with a car
I like the idea of them dual-wielding scimitars since they sorta look like comets with the blade being the trail
You see what I'm seeing?
maybe it could have a dragon-like vibe
This is kinda what I'm thinking
with Draconids and also potential puns with stuff like ē« and ęµę
From Ruby & Sapphire?
Oh oh
The October Draconids, in the past also unofficially known as the Giacobinids, are a Northern hemisphere meteor shower whose parent body is the periodic comet 21P/Giacobini-Zinner. They are named after the constellation Draco, where they seemingly come from. Almost all meteors which fall towards Earth ablate long before reaching its surface. The...
they say meteor wiped out the dinosaurs but really the meteor was the dinosaur....
I know I just talked about PokƩmon but like
forgot Geminids was one lol
not sure they're gonna do that stuff with this too though, twin stuff feels more just Elfilin-Forgo thing
They'd do that
GAME FREAK would do something like that
Koraidon's signature move is literally called collision course
oh true lol
What if instead of Star-Crossed World it was Kirby and the Forgotten Land: Dawn of the Dinosaurs
really Paradoxes do give that kind of vibe
Elfilis Dinosaur
When the new member of Beast Pack turns out to be a weasel with an eyepatch
New beast pack (the squeaks somehow got lost)
I canāt believe Escargoon is coming
Sonic 3 is coming
Fire kirbysaurus real?!?!?


