I want friend Doomers! Even just one
#[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe
peak dagger
novel fog
I want to see a baby/kid Doomer in a game
vapid kestrel
||Honestly the weirdest thing to me is how the rampaging doomer description is like 'normally they'd go after spheres but' even though like
The apple shards they had were in spheres|||
floral mantle
I want friend Doomers! Even just one
novel fog
he's so cute
floral mantle
I want to see a baby/kid Doomer in a game
Kid Doomer will feature in Kid Kirby Game
leaden terrace
they have to bring back kid kirby
floral mantle
you get: Cute Kid Doomer
You also get: Otomatone Kirby, the Worst Dedededesign to date
is this worth Kid Doomer?
vocal latch
Doomers remind me of
peak dagger
Doomy 🙂
jolly valve
Robobot Remake's epilogue is just gonna be ||a similar ending to the novel||
peak dagger
The novels kinda portray them as more like wild animals rather than evil. Dangerous sure, but they're just funny creatures
floral mantle
I wonder if Sphere Doomers were banished into Another Dimension
floral mantle
They just live there apparently
I mean, a very long time ago
novel fog
nah
pliant socket
Doomers remind me of
He is secretly a doomer in disguise
floral mantle
I'll be a Sphere Doomer Apologist
novel fog
we're all Doomers
floral mantle
any Sphere Doomer Apologist?
jolly valve
Robobot Remake's epilogue is just gonna be ||a similar ending to the novel||
Susie Epilogue leaked guys! /s
tawdry mulch
Who the fuck is that guy
peak dagger
Novel OCs
tawdry mulch
||Honestly the weirdest thing to me is how the rampaging doomer description is l...
||I think they put the stuff they eat in spheres. Happened with the big apple with Crowned Doomer||
||I'm of the opinion they themselves didn't want the Apple they just had to get them cause Crown wanted them to||
jolly valve
Ending was basically Robobot's but ||Haltmann was rescued before Star Dream was destroyed, leading to a short heartfelt moment with Susie while his memory was recovering until he snapped back to being asshole president||
lost briar
||I'm of the opinion they themselves didn't want the Apple they just had to get ...
||didn't it say somewhere that the fruit fragments contain life energy
the doomers are pretty attracted to energy in general||
finite pecan
||hey so mistelteinn means mistletoe, right? i just learned in biology class that mistletoes are parasites and the only thing my brain could think is "holy shit lore"||
odd rover
||hey so mistelteinn means mistletoe, right? i just learned in biology class tha...
Yes yes
jolly valve
What if we kissed under the Mistelteinn, The Crown Without a Ruler?
odd rover
It’s also ||a tree and sword in Norse mythology||
floral mantle
What if we kissed under the Mistelteinn, The Crown Without a Ruler?
Master Crown will be so disgusted he blew up
tawdry mulch
||didn't it say somewhere that the fruit fragments contain life energy
the doom...
||yeah but to me it seems like the fruit was of interest to the crown in particular. As even those doomers were just gathering the slices for their boss||
||seems to me that they're more interesting in particularly stuff infused with space-time distorting powers as opposed to power in general||
austere willow
Jk some guy named Director Kane
is that like Cane or Ka Neh
vocal latch
Susie Epilogue leaked guys! /s
When would they team up
vocal latch
They're both capitalist kings
floral mantle
Sell him defective Toasters
jolly valve
is that like Cane or Ka Neh
Seems to be Cane
floral mantle
They're both capitalist kings
First Rule of capitalism- never trust other captialist
vocal latch
floral mantle
Monopoly taught me enough
peak dagger
We always played monopoly fairly kindly, which is probably why the games took eons to complete now I think about it
harsh dragon
I still can’t get over that ||Magolor Soul true arena fight||. It’s such a fun battle
floral mantle
We always played monopoly fairly kindly, which is probably why the games took eo...
Wait, you don't make terrible Trade decisions and build houses and hotels on a property set that no one will land on?
you also don't stay in Jail for the entire late game of monopoly and pray to god that you go to jail?
peak dagger
What better way to avoid bankruptcy than to stay in jail?
floral mantle
spoken like a true captialist
harsh dragon
Monopoly really is true to life 💀
vapid kestrel
||didn't it say somewhere that the fruit fragments contain life energy
the doom...
Yea that's what I thought was weird
||It's a source of energy, and they're spheres in their mouths, but the desc was like "they're normally attracted to spherers but"||
craggy sable
Pssst quick question:
Is Magolor Epilogue's 100% icon in the main menu considered a spoiler?
covert jasper
hmmmmmmm
vast basin
nah
craggy sable
Mkay, thx
vapid kestrel
Oh wow wtf I'm actually surprised how clean Galacta Knight's motion file is
There's almost no animations in there that GK doesn't use
floral mantle
you can cheese some of them
upbeat barn
I know what about checkboard chase Though
leaden terrace
There's almost no animations in there that GK doesn't use
prob cus he p much has everything
from the past games lol
warm totem
https://tenor.com/view/kirby-magolor-magalor-virginity-shield-gif-20298354
The master crown has cursed me with a permanent Woman shield 😔
upbeat barn
What?
craggy sable
(Joycons)
vapid kestrel
prob cus he p much has everything
No but usually the knights have like
All of every knight animation ever in their motion files
upbeat barn
No spartan
craggy sable
If you got yourself a pro controller and 2 joycons, you can effectively wipe out half of the opppnents instantly
Of course the ones that require CPU's are still gonna be tricky
upbeat barn
Most of my joycons have joycon drift
craggy sable
Mine too
upbeat barn
Yay
hexed current
For Checkerboard Chase you can stay in a corner and keep removing the lines vertical and horizontal to you so that the opponents cannot reach you, but you have to be prepared for when others are eliminated and your area will fall
upbeat barn
Have any of you finished RtDL Deluxe yet
hexed current
Many of us
upbeat barn
I finished magolor epilogue the main campaign that’s it
hexed current
I finished the True Magoland Missions two days ago, that was my final goal (I am not going to try to get platinum on ability challenges
upbeat barn
I feel like I can’t do the Arena
I will
I want that sweet 100% music
It’ll be worth it
hexed current
Water is my favorite for arenas because you can attack from far away, and Rainbow Rain does a lot of damage while you are invincible
upbeat barn
I like parasol because it got a lot of invincibility frames
craggy sable
Certain music tracks are unlocked when you hear them in game
tawdry mulch
Yea that's what I thought was weird
||It's a source of energy, and they're spher...
||I think they just used spheres as a short hand for energy spheres and not literal spheres||
floral mantle
I use Tornado, it's pretty good for the True Arena...
Die to Lor Starcutter section because I wasn't paying attention to the bullets
upbeat barn
Noooooo that would’ve sucked
craggy sable
Yet one of them, despite being heard as early as Magoland the first time, requires Magoland to be Truly 100%-ed and beating the true arena
Oh and Epilogue too
harsh dragon
That true arena from the remake of Kirby Returns to Dreamland and the dopamine beating it gave me was worth the price of admission ALONE.
I don’t care what anyone says
granite cedar
true arena in rtdl dx is fantastic
harsh dragon
true arena in rtdl dx is fantastic
It’s one of the hardest, but it also feels the most fair
granite cedar
it's hard but not in the "well we gonna put botomless pits in the final boss! or make final boss be entirely different gameplay style you can't practice anywhere else, so good luck!" type of hard
it feels like genuine gauntlet of everything you've learned up until that point
leaden terrace
robobot is so mean for that
floral mantle
it's hard but not in the "well we gonna put botomless pits in the final boss! or...
my only complaint is the Lor Starcutter segment
granite cedar
robobot true arena when i strangle it to death
harsh dragon
The health management this particular iteration of the true arena is super strict and makes the arena feel tense all the way through
faint glen
Eh i think rtdldx's has some unfair things too ignoring Unfair Magolor Soul
floral mantle
I forget to heal before Lor Starcutter Segment and die
granite cedar
i will take lor starcutter dx over star dream soul os anyday for sure
faint glen
I think the health thing is a tad too strict and theres too many bosses you cant really prepare for in it
floral mantle
I think the health thing is a tad too strict and theres too many bosses you cant...
there's also souvenier items
faint glen
That gives u a pink slip tho
floral mantle
which can help a lot with health
faint glen
I mean it depends on the ability i guess
harsh dragon
i will take lor starcutter dx over star dream soul os anyday for sure
I really loved fighting Star Dream Soul OS. The barrel roll dodge helped a TON
faint glen
Dedede and stone were fine
floral mantle
That gives u a pink slip tho
Doesn't matter for 100% apparently
faint glen
Also sand probably
granite cedar
i dont know why would you want to use bad ability tho lol
floral mantle
Tornado is very good imo
faint glen
i dont know why would you want to use bad ability tho lol
Hammer 
granite cedar
i feel sorry for abilityless folk
tbh hammer wasnt that great for true arena in og rtdl either
mainly because lots of bosses are. in the air
faint glen
It was good enough to win but, fair
harsh dragon
tbh hammer wasnt that great for true arena in og rtdl either
I did the true arena with hammer in this version
Like a true hammer loyalist would
harsh dragon
Hammer is not a cheese copy ability and I will stand by that till the day I die
All your attacks have to be right up to the enemy, which requires good positioning and timing
floral mantle
I heard ||Rampaging Doomers|| is very difficult for Abilityless
harsh dragon
It’s not just an infinite invincibility guard
harsh dragon
I heard ||Rampaging Doomers|| is very difficult for Abilityless
Oh god I could only imagine
leaden terrace
I heard ||Rampaging Doomers|| is very difficult for Abilityless
||they dont spawn a lot of stars do they lol||
faint glen
||they also make the ground impassable half the time||
ruby narwhal
The fact that you can crouch under their swoop attacks (unlike their base game counterparts) as well as their explosive clouds is honestly a lifesaver
spark lotus
speaking of abilityless true arena runs
i searched the link in the bar and i guess no one posted this one
i had apparently already started watching it at one point but i have no memory of this
anyway i havent finished it
leaden terrace
love how tactical the movements are
spark lotus
I swear I posted that other abilityless video with "first generation style" rules (no running as far as i'd watched it, and ofc no copying either)
yeah this one
jhsh im small brained
I remember now
i found this run and then it was an "Arena" run and not true arena and now a few minutes into the video i realize this again
neato someone posted this already
as in i was about to and then i searched it and found this
that's pretty neat..
dark compass
How long is the magolor epilogue?
celest grove
I'd say around 2 to 3 hours depending on your skill and if you take your time or not
dark compass
Alright
celest grove
maybe less if you're really really fast
dark compass
Aight, thanks
spark lotus
you mean as more than a cameo?
because he's cameoed in like every game since the original rtdl
pretty sure kumuzaki loves him
in terms of as a main character, who can say? I think at the least we'll definitely get a break from that for awhile
floral mantle
yeah, more than a cameo
celest grove
I think he won't show up as more than a cameo
each mainline game are pretty much standalone games
spark lotus
from the true arena run.. smear frame
floral mantle
each mainline game are pretty much standalone games
but what if Magolor show up as a shopkeeper or something?
wintry turtle
I'm in shambles after reading that interview
floral mantle
what's wrong?
jolly valve
What if Magolor gets the Bandana Dee treatment like in FL in the next game
floral mantle
What if Magolor gets the Bandana Dee treatment like in FL in the next game
so... basically Player 2?
jolly valve
Yes lol
floral mantle
Hmmm...
wintry turtle
what's wrong?
|| "Kumazaki confirms that in general there's not a straight, forward-flowing timeline in Kirby as much as there is a series of loose connections." ||
I hate the multiverse theory I hate the mulitverse theory I hate the multiverse theory
leaden terrace
that doesnt mean multiverse?
leaden terrace
yeah he said smth similar before
floral mantle
I still think there's a Kirby Timeline
leaden terrace
the only 'multiverse'-related thing is that ||they talked about there being parallels but its like... not that important either||
covert jasper
Series director Shinya Kumazaki has explained that there is no definitive timeline for the main Kirby series. However, the events in the games can nonetheless be connected to each other, as demonstrated by certain character relationships carrying over from previous titles, such as Magolor's redemption after the end of Kirby's Return to Dream Land, or Kirby and King Dedede consistently recognizing each other.[1]
floral mantle
there's a Kirby Timeline. we don't know the exact timespan though
covert jasper
all that means is that there is no 100% accurate timeline and that the devs don't think too hard about continuity
floral mantle
All I know is-
Star Allies is after all the games prior to it
covert jasper
and in a way we already had other parallels before, the whole "what-if" scenarios
floral mantle
and Forgotten Land is probably after Star Allies because Elfilin isn't in Star Allies
covert jasper
but yeah, nothing new really
floral mantle
now- what really caught my attention is the mention of Magolor being skilled in both Science and Magic
leaden terrace
you can tell theyre still being rly careful about it, how they kinda separated rtdl form rtdldx
floral mantle
and the Hyness Rant
leaden terrace
not literally but like in a way that kind of makes sense with a main factor in dx
floral mantle
I need confirmation- did Hyness said the way to prosperity is to use both Science and magic?
or something like that?
floral mantle
"Only harmonized with our magic can their science achieve great prosperity!"
I thought so. I need to confirm because I'm scare to misremember
Freakin Magolor is the key to prosperity
anyways, the only new info from the interview is really just Magoland lore
spark lotus
idk why people insist on there being a timeline
probably the people who read/write fanfics
I know the term "fanfic" probably brings to mind phrases like "canon is whatever I want it to be" but some people like going by the book even while writing their own haha
tawdry mulch
I hate the multiverse theory I hate the mulitverse theory I hate the multiverse ...
TRUE
spark lotus
problem for them is there really isn't a book for them to go by - but in some ways that makes things better? i dunno
tawdry mulch
I'm sorry multiverse fans this isn't about you it's me
leaden terrace
im the type of fanfic writer that does whatever the fuck they want and alter the chars and world in drastic ways
floral mantle
TRUE
you don't need to pay attention to the Clash verse as long as the main timeline doesn't say anything about it... ||Except Magolor going there but it really have no repercussion in the main timeline.||
leaden terrace
so this does not affect me at all
tawdry mulch
just follow the games, yo
Well yeah I think this I just how people see the timeline pretty much
floral mantle
the game's in chronological order makes perfect sense to me anyways.
tawdry mulch
||Funny how even after ME added clash in the mix it still works to follow release order lmfao||
maiden swan
Are there people who don’t use chronological order with games
tawdry mulch
Nonzero chance
floral mantle
Still don't get why some people insisted that Metal General worked for Haltmann...
spark lotus
probably the ones who worry about remakes/retellings
floral mantle
Are there people who don’t use chronological order with games
I think Zelda games aren't chronological?
tawdry mulch
Funny cause even with RTDX, Magoland would be the latest thing in the perceived series timeline lol
maiden swan
probably the ones who worry about remakes/retellings
Me who cannot be assed to think any more than 5 seconds
leaden terrace
so true
tawdry mulch
Dogbert
leaden terrace
Still don't get why some people insisted that Metal General worked for Haltmann....
"everything must be connected!!!11!!!!"
dimensional mirror having no prior connection to anything whatsoever so far:
tawdry mulch
Ig it was fun when there wasn't much info on general
But after ME sticking to that HC is probably really hard LMFAO
floral mantle
"everything must be connected!!!11!!!!"
Metal General worked under the science ancients makes a lot of sense to me
and they were used to exterminate Hyness clan
odd rover
Still don't get why some people insisted that Metal General worked for Haltmann....
Haltmann wasn’t even alive in that timeframe lmfao
floral mantle
Haltmann wasn’t even alive in that timeframe lmfao
people took the line 'there's no timeline' to justify this
leaden terrace
dies
tawdry mulch
Moreso Haltmann wasn't dead in the time frame LMAO
Cause Generals master is dead apparently
floral mantle
Me when we found out Halcandra is the Land of Dreams due to a Jukebox
leaden terrace
the descriptions said it all
maiden swan
The Land of Dreams is the white wafers cutter puzzle 2
floral mantle
The Land of Dreams is the white wafers cutter puzzle 2
maiden swan
Precisely
floral mantle
Me when the interview repeat and confirm what we already know
Next month's the Magologue interview, right?
covert jasper
this interview does have some interesting stuff but mostly of development, which is why I want to see if I can translate it soon
I dunno if the second part is specifically magolor epilogue but maybe
leaden terrace
im glad theyre talking more about the development tbh
covert jasper
yes
leaden terrace
cus sometimes i feel like its WAY more interesting than the lore
covert jasper
the FL one was so fun to read
leaden terrace
YES I want to know how you made your games so amazing
tawdry mulch
TRUEEE
floral mantle
Apparently they use FL Dedede design for the remake because it's familiar to newcomers
tawdry mulch
FL one goes hard
leaden terrace
YEAHHH
floral mantle
"As for Dedede's redesign, they mention that he's partly redesigned to best represent what he's used for in each game. In TDX, he was an enemy and an ally, so he was meant to look cool. In Star Allies, he was friendly and a bit goofy. In FL, he was designed to fit with the look of the Beast Pack. DX's Dedede is meant to kind of mix FL and Star Allies, partly because FL Dedede became so popular and had such recognition. (They also note that, regrettably, RtDL's original Dedede had to have his body made smaller because of bounding box issues.) They weren't able to make him the "large and in charge" powerful type they wanted before now." -from a summary
leaden terrace
i mean tis def not just newcomers
i think a lot of people reaaally liked the new dedede design
FL or RtDLDX
floral mantle
i think a lot of people reaaally liked the new dedede design
so people who aren't fond of Dedede's design change are in the minority? At least in Japan?
because I know there's a lot of English speakers who dislike the new design
leaden terrace
i think theres a good number who didnt, but either way, they specifically pointed out that hes become pretty popular
tawdry mulch
Totally forgot about the concept art with the star in the mountain. I remember pointing out that the star mountain also is in the background of the pop up book GCN game
leaden terrace
so i guess it makes sense
tawdry mulch
I wonder if they'll ever actually use the star mountain
floral mantle
Dedede is perfect regardless of his design
pastel axle
so was the dedede fl design being in rtdldx decided after fl released or before?
pastel axle
but interview states they added it because fans loved the design which was revealed a bit before fl
yeah
tawdry mulch
Yeah no way they had time to change that after release lmao
leaden terrace
ah yeah they were being developed together
i think they just rly liked the new design themselves lol
"hehe round lil beak penguin"
pastel axle
tbh
covert jasper
I did just get to the dedede part of the interview so good timing lol
I want to see better what it says exactly
tawdry mulch
Only one I actually don't like is the original Dedede where he's weird and small and has no gloves
Icky
floral mantle
Only one I actually don't like is the original Dedede where he's weird and small...
you like Prince Dedede?
tawdry mulch
No he's like an even worse version of that but he's not real
floral mantle
can't wait for the April Interview
pastel axle
thought it said may
floral mantle
oh nevermind then
pastel axle
pastel axle
oh hype
covert jasper
so it is next month
tawdry mulch
I shall instill the hope that they mention the possibility of doing something like ME for other characters in that interview into your hearts
Shazam
Now suffer the consequences of hope
wintry turtle
I like every dedede design tbh
tawdry mulch
Original Dedede does not deserve to be roped in with the others
junior mesa
kid kirby dedede
leaden terrace
i dont have strong opinions on dedede's designs so i dont rly care
tawdry mulch
Kill him
covert jasper
give me bandee mode
leaden terrace
except i super love fl's design
leaden terrace
so i also dont care
covert jasper
I need bandee mode
tawdry mulch
I have minor nitpicks with some Dedede designs but they're all good to me nothing I really care about
junior mesa
the only dededesign i actively dislike is SA tbh
most of the others I can handle
leaden terrace
actually ur wrong and i think u should shut up /j
leaden terrace
he may not wear gloves or have a weirdly small cloth but HES SUPER CUTE
tawdry mulch
ECH
leaden terrace
even his sprites are adorable
granite cedar
I like his sprites but i dont really like how he looks on the artwork
I think im miffed on all designs where his head is as big as his body
tawdry mulch
Yeah sprites are fine for him it's the art
That one art someone sent the other day where he has like a Donald Duck beak brings me fear
From star stacker or something
tawdry mulch
I think im miffed on all designs where his head is as big as his body
Yeah makes him feel small when he's BIG
prime belfry
Read the interview
||So, even if he has redeemed himself he is still up to mischief huh, maybe not as bad as before but Dedede still causes trouble lol||
Also ||is RtDLX non canon now?, or same case as clash as just another dimension? i'm kind of confused||
leaden terrace
||RtDL and RtDLDX are both canon, they are just compared as parallels because the latter has Magoland which also has some timeline-related stuff||
covert jasper
also that is nothing new really
kumazaki has said before there is not one "canon" kirby timeline
prime belfry
so everything is canon?
from the games, novels and all the other stuff,, considering that
or on the contrary there isn't canon lol
covert jasper
all that means is that there is no 100% accurate timeline and that the devs don'...
bringing back what I said earlier
pastel axle
he said that in this and the last interview. wonder whats he cooking? i always assumed every game came after the next. though maybe he was hinting at the magolor epilogue ending since that forgotten land interview
leaden terrace
The games are canon
thats about it
The games are canon, the timeline is not super clear but generally follow the chronological order of the releasess
pastel axle
it just overcomplicates thing when it doesnt have to though
odd rover
Canon dies with this game and I am all for it
spark lotus
me having had my status for around ~3-4 days now
leaden terrace
what overcomplicates what
covert jasper
to be fair I've never seen the fans get so desperate on a statement like this on my 10+ years in this fandom lol
leaden terrace
true
covert jasper
this used to be a common assumption until those "kirby lore" youtube videos started to drop and people starting to think too hard about everything in this series lol
pastel axle
what overcomplicates what
well just what game comes after which.
covert jasper
why does that matter?
prime belfry
Why is thinking too hard about Kirby bad? I think the series gives itself for it x"D
odd rover
Kumazaki is saying there is no set in stone timeline, that is all.
Oh yeah multiverse too but that’s besides the point
spark lotus
Why is thinking too hard about Kirby bad? I think the series gives itself for it...
it really does though
leaden terrace
Why is thinking too hard about Kirby bad? I think the series gives itself for it...
cus it makes everyone else confused
we're not supposed to take everything too literally
spark lotus
there's so much room for interpretation and a lot of it is left intentionally and no one can even say you're wrong for coming to certain conclusions
covert jasper
because the devs don't want you to think too hard... that is exactly why they are doing this and not creating some zelda timeline
leaden terrace
this is a franchise that prioritizes gameplay damit lol
spark lotus
it's all in good fun yknow
leaden terrace
theres a reason why we dont have plot until like
the very end of the game
cus thats not their priority so why would it be for us too, especially if were talking canon stuff
covert jasper
nothing is also stopping me from continuing to assume the timeline is just release order so I will just continue doing what I've always done
leaden terrace
yeah
floral mantle
theres a reason why we dont have plot until like
I mean, the plot of Kirby games are pretty simple anyways
covert jasper
I would much prefer to do this than kumazaki revealing "actually the first game in the timeline is dream course, then squeak squad, then KSS, then"
spark lotus
even if you're the type of person who wants to get lost in this world (like me) i think the big idea is you have to let go of what EXACTLY canon is and make the world your own because we just dont know
odd rover
The first game in the timeline is Triple Deluxe actually
prime belfry
Oh, now I see the problem
covert jasper
~~let's think of the dedede multiverse instead 
~~
prime belfry
the "This is THE canon stuff"
floral mantle
The first game in the timeline is Triple Deluxe actually
No, it's Star Allies
leaden terrace
~~let's think of the dedede multiverse instead <:Kapar:749732683852283965> ~~
The Dededeverse
prime belfry
Like just forcing canon into people, guess I have been doing that quite a lot my b
odd rover
~~let's think of the dedede multiverse instead <:Kapar:749732683852283965> ~~
This but Dedede
floral mantle
Read the interview
||So, even if he has redeemed himself he is still up to mis...
Have you seen him in the Spin Offs?
covert jasper
Like just forcing canon into people, guess I have been doing that quite a lot my...
you're fine, it's just like
leaden terrace
i mean thats totally fine, i think both sides are having problems
floral mantle
Also, Im in Magolor time travels ganf
prime belfry
Guess is the same case as another series I know ||(Touhou)||
There is a lot of room to interpretation and theories, as well as there is canon but don't force it too much because we don't care that much about it
pastel axle
why does that matter?
tbh it doesnt matter that much anyways
spark lotus
Like just forcing canon into people, guess I have been doing that quite a lot my...
yeah kirby as a series doesnt lend itself that well to this haha
I'm newish here so i dont know anything about your past sins so we're good, at least
prime belfry
Have you seen him in the Spin Offs?
Oh yeah
leaden terrace
Oh yeah touhou has like
covert jasper
it's pretty clear to me after reading many interviews that the devs just... don't care about some stuff and I don't think we should either because it becomes a headache
leaden terrace
30% canon info 70% fanon info
spark lotus
also yeah im 50% joking
floral mantle
This is what I think
leaden terrace
most of the stuff ull know about each char may just come from the doujinshis instead
...fanworks
sorry
odd rover
Y’all gotta remember this is a goddamn E10+ at most franchise with hungry pink ball not fucking uh Shakespeare
prime belfry
Yeah
leaden terrace
it's pretty clear to me after reading many interviews that the devs just... don'...
this
prime belfry
Ig that what makes both series have so outstanding fanworks in the end
leaden terrace
we should just free ourself of our struggles lol
main fractal
Is Tufu a shmup
floral mantle
Ok, RTDL DX is the same as RTDL, but Magoland exist
prime belfry
Ok, RTDL DX is the same as RTDL, but Magoland exist
yeah, pretty much
covert jasper
stuff like "there is not one continuity in kirby" is something I've seen treated as true when I joined the fandom in 2009 so I guess I just find it ironic to see kumazaki reveal that and people in 2023 go "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" when... I thought that was something we all assumed was true lol
prime belfry
and the magolor epilogue too
tawdry mulch
Also ||is RtDLX non canon now?, or same case as clash as just another dimension?...
It's up to interpretation basically. Whatever works for you
covert jasper
like spring breeze idk man I don't think about explaining it for example
leaden terrace
like
theyre not gonna do that...
it would be such a disaster if they do that...
theyre not fit...
floral mantle
and the magolor epilogue too
I mean, event wise. Magolor Epilogue happen in the original event, but offscreen imo
covert jasper
i dont know why were so concerned about the multiverse and timelines stuff
I blame marvel
leaden terrace
GRRR GRRR GRRR SNARLS AND ROARS AT MARVEL
tawdry mulch
i dont know why were so concerned about the multiverse and timelines stuff
Still concerned (it's because of Bayonetta 3)
main fractal
Marble fans when they multiverse into the gravel dimension idk
spark lotus
i mean, sometimes you just want one version of each character in a story and you want all the events you know happen in their story and stories resembling theirs bc multiverse canon or whatever to be relevant
tawdry mulch
Can't love 2 too much hurts my brain
prime belfry
stuff like "there is not one continuity in kirby" is something I've seen treated...
Well the concept of alternative timelines/AUs was always there for me, but I didn't see them as "actual possible stuff in the universe", instead more of a What-If that doesn't make sense
covert jasper
I haven't reached it yet but the interview explained the intro, which imo is more important
floral mantle
Me when they eventually confirm subspace as Kirby canon
leaden terrace
be like me and block that mental trauma out of your brain
leaden terrace
thats how i cope with my fandoms!
main fractal
I want subspace to be canon
leaden terrace
(im a fnaf fan)
main fractal
I want Meta Knight to be such an idiot he needed Solid Snake to reclaim the Halberd for him
floral mantle
Me when Kirby fight Tabuu and beats him solo in the next Kirby game
tawdry mulch
But judging by this interview it's basically just up to interpretation which is fine by me. Now I'm just wondering WTF theyre gonna do with Clash
leaden terrace
~~I haven't reached it yet but the interview explained the intro, which imo is m...
TRUE
prime belfry
~~I haven't reached it yet but the interview explained the intro, which imo is m...
Oh yeah
leaden terrace
i love this part
tawdry mulch
Cause Clash lore is mostly language locked so it kinda sucks LMFAO
prime belfry
The reason Bandee is flying is because someone attacked him lol
spark lotus
ye bandee lore
prime belfry
because back then they were considered a "normal enemy"
So it would be common for him to be hit
tawdry mulch
Meta Knight when he KILLS bandee
odd rover
My takeaway from all of this is that the anime is canon 
prime belfry
evil!!!
tawdry mulch
TRUE actually this is based
spark lotus
I thought before maybe he was practicing his infinite jump (which.. is it weird to question that? I mean the helpers do it but they're helpers-) but started falling out of the sky for some reason
floral mantle
The reason Bandee is flying is because someone attacked him lol
It's Mr. Dooter, why? Bandana Dee can't answer the question
floral mantle
My takeaway from all of this is that the anime is canon <:leepertroll:9012601974...
No
prime belfry
My takeaway from all of this is that the anime is canon <:leepertroll:9012601974...
Well there is the possibility
main fractal
The Anime was canon but then Kirby blew out a flame or other and NME was never real or something
prime belfry
Even in the games there is anime references and stuff
Could be easily another dimension
floral mantle
Even in the games there is anime references and stuff
Which game? Mass Attack and Squeak Squad?
tawdry mulch
SA too
prime belfry
Yes
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Star Allies a few times
spark lotus
my hc is the plot of clash is a parody of how the anime timeline diverged from the game one over 50,000 years ago
floral mantle
What did Star Allies reference?
spark lotus
Devil Kirby
burnt marsh
the frog episode
odd rover
Could be easily another dimension
Yeah that’s what I’m saying
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Octopus in Ados moveset and Macho Dedede probably
tawdry mulch
Evil Kirby, buff Dedede, and the octopus from the first episode
lofty condor
Devil Kirby
Adeleine paints the Octopus Demon Beast too
main fractal
Oh and evil Kirby
tawdry mulch
Ado is from the anime verse?!?!?!?!
leaden terrace
i love those sm
odd rover
We have to start saying “prime universe/timeline” now guys
leaden terrace
no
tawdry mulch
Ok
floral mantle
I like the Anime is an in universe show explanation
spark lotus
she drew that one "handsome Dedede" shot in the one episode where they make a cartoon
spark lotus
she drew that one "handsome Dedede" shot in the one episode where they make a ca...
technically there are at least two of those but we dont talk about the second one
spark lotus
I like the Anime is an in universe show explanation
the anime is an anime in the anime
which is hilarious
floral mantle
Please keep RBaY an in universe show
prime belfry
lmao, fr?
spark lotus
like the bonkers episode the reason he finds out about kirby is because he was on TV
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🤯
prime belfry
they gave dedede a shitty role then
odd rover
Since when was it an in-universe show
floral mantle
Dedede should sue the anime for slander
spark lotus
Since when was it an in-universe show
oh uh, in the twitter arts im guessing
NME salesman really likes appearing on TV screens and the like..
tawdry mulch
It's a hc about the Twitter art
main fractal
Susie was executive meddling and made Dedede out to be evil to shatter Dream Lands reputation
Notice how the locals are dickheads and incompetent
It's Susanian Propaganda
tawdry mulch
Susie moment
floral mantle
Cappy Town are so stupid they wipe themselves out will be my headcanon if Anime is indeed canon.
prime belfry
anyways, moving on from all this canon discussion (thanks for making me think less hard about it x"D) I love how Magolor is a more major character now
spark lotus
nah theyre 100% separate canons
main fractal
Shifts the HWC war crimes to Nightmare who was some wizard
leaden terrace
its always better to shut your brain off when it comes to things about kriby 😌
...not that its bad
but the potential is so endless u go crazy
spark lotus
its better to see it through the eye of the dream
cuz kirby lore is just like a weird fever dream
prime belfry
yeah, luckily for me i'm not a very creative person
main fractal
Potential copium but I feel this implies we're seeing more Magolor in games
odd rover
oh uh, in the twitter arts im guessing
I see now
tawdry mulch
I'm still waiting for the cool ass character moment where MK has his mask broken while fighting alongside Kirby but he keeps on fighting cause Kirby is his friend
prime belfry
so when I see a good hc i go like "
ayoooo"
odd rover
Magolor will now be appearing in the next mainline game
spark lotus
gorimondo is too big for the house
prime belfry
Magolor will now be appearing in the next mainline game
Can't wait for playable Magolor in FL2
leaden terrace
and most of the headcanons that i like are mine
main fractal
God can you imagine Magolor on the original cover art with his fucking Classic Render
leaden terrace
because to ME, I am the SMART ONE. I am the CREATIVE ONE here
you know what i mean
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Picture the American cover art where they don't bother changing Magolors pose at all
odd rover
Honestly
I don’t have that many pure headcanons other than Bandee can breakdance hard like really hard
tawdry mulch
Thats me FR
spark lotus
you know what i mean
that WOULD be me but I'm pretty sure ive adopted a few headcanons
prime belfry
because to ME, I am the SMART ONE. I am the CREATIVE ONE here
you spittin fr
spark lotus
like, oh, the Sectra Dee Waddle Dee parasitism
leaden terrace
iirc i have myself but i expanded them way beyond recognition that its basically just mine
prime belfry
My only Kirby hc is dumb af
tawdry mulch
I make a few wild theories like Pop Star being part of a Void incarnation and Dream Kingdom being on Halcandra in the past and go "hmph yes I am smart for putting this together"
prime belfry
Like no sources at all, I just like to think that Kirby, Keeby and MK are just stars and stuff
main fractal
My hcs are something well founded and completely intelligent like Magolor meeting the Ripple Star people before rtdl
prime belfry
Hence why Kirby's past is mysterious and he just "appeared", but that not for this channel lol
spark lotus
my hc is the plot of clash is a parody of how the anime timeline diverged from t...
this one isn't really mine but it wasn't explained to me in great detail, basically just I saw the fanon name for a certain track in Clash that was named after the "Nightmare of a Galactic Crisis" in Hyness' rant
leaden terrace
lmao
i have a few theories like the one with morpho and the one w elfilis and elfilin
but ... i think theyre more headcanons than anything
tawdry mulch
this one isn't really mine but it wasn't explained to me in great detail, basica...
I got gaslit by that fanon name lmao
spark lotus
yeah same.. i didnt realize it was fanon
odd rover
this one isn't really mine but it wasn't explained to me in great detail, basica...
Holy shit it’s fake
ruby narwhal
I got gaslit by that fanon name lmao
Same, the uploaded (wmex) actually had to confirm it was fan made lmao
tawdry mulch
But I have my own speculation on what the Galactic crisis was (it was Galacta Knight trying to stop the ancients from messing with the fabric of space time by destroying their planets)
(And he shows up in Clash in his Light and Dark forms to finish the job)
leaden terrace
for morpho i see him as a rebellious individual of the usually peaceful guaradian spirit butterflies,
while elfilis and elfilin are much more complicated than that but elfilin is the core and the "one who decides the identity" which is why hes so small, kind and innocent while elfilis was elfilin's identity that refuses to die and yearns to reunite so he could live for longer
spark lotus
everyone here probably figured this out from me already but im dying for the idea that "Nightmare of a Galactic Crisis" involved BOTH Nightmare and Galacta Knight
tawdry mulch
(And that's why he uses those forms there and nowhere else. Cause killing ancients is serious business like when he used the form to seal the Jamba Heart)
I also think this is a possibility
That silly old Nightmare was involved lmfao
prime belfry
everyone here probably figured this out from me already but im dying for the ide...
Galacta Knight sure didn't like Nightmare then 😭
leaden terrace
i try not to think too hard about aeon hero
prime belfry
If we take what happened the moment Nightmare summoned him
spark lotus
Galacta Knight sure didn't like Nightmare then 😭
I mean he doesn't like anyone who summons him
odd rover
Nightmare was born just before Kirby’s Adventure started
spark lotus
Hyness summoned him at one point in some sidemode, I forget if Galacta Knight took it out on him like he did with Star Dream
tawdry mulch
My biggest dream for GK is that they subvert our expectations by making him out to be a hero the whole time who wanted to prevent destruction under the ancients. He succeeded in saving main verse with the crisis, but couldn't save Clash/Halcandra. And the ancients label him a destructive maniac
leaden terrace
for morpho i see him as a rebellious individual of the usually peaceful guaradia...
the funny thing is that this elfilis and elfilin thing is WEIRDLY similar to void too and i also have a thing about elfilis and void being associated so oop 😳
prime belfry
Another dumb hc is that Kirby and Bandee meet in the Megaton Punch minigame and then became best friends :)
odd rover
Hyness summoned him at one point in some `sidemode`, I forget if Galacta Knight ...
Hyness fell off (literally he flew off the Divine Termanus)
prime belfry
While Dedede didn't know since he still had some hatred for Kirby
ruby narwhal
My biggest dream for GK is that they subvert our expectations by making him out ...
Same
tawdry mulch
I would be head over heels after waiting for some good Galacta stuff, cause I kind of feel like he's poorly utilized tbh
spark lotus
My biggest dream for GK is that they subvert our expectations by making him out ...
this is every Galacta Knight fanfic ive ever read and i will never get tired of it
leaden terrace
and its that he uses heart spears so he must be one of the 4 heroes of yore!
tawdry mulch
this is every Galacta Knight fanfic ive ever read and i will never get tired of ...
That makes a lot of sense
leaden terrace
actually no wait
theres the whole thing about him having records spanning across eras too
ocean mauve
I def think galacta was a hero
leaden terrace
from planet robobot desc
tawdry mulch
we have like... only 1 piece of lore
Honestly id go as far to say he is the most poorly utilized character for how many times he shows up lmfao
prime belfry
yeah
tawdry mulch
Which is a shame cause he's cool af
ocean mauve
suppose given the aeon hero thing it seems obvious. But he just seems like a good guy
prime belfry
Even as how cool he still is
prime belfry
I took the good old "void corrupted gk!!" theory
ayo?
spark lotus
there's also the fact he just kinda travels through space time
prime belfry
how does that theory go?
ocean mauve
He just seems the "Meta Knight EX version"
least it means they have an excuse to not make us fight meta knight
junior fiber
I took the good old "void corrupted gk!!" theory
i like the idea that the jamba hearts messed with him too
odd rover
I had a hc that Void copied Galacta Knight which caused him to gaslight himself into believing he was connected
It’s also a parody of Kirby = Void lmao
ocean mauve
(even if the two recent original modern games have mk fights anyway lmao)
spark lotus
I HC ||Galacta Knight used the Room of Eden multiple times which is why he's able to be absorbed by Morpho||
leaden terrace
erm, cant you look up vids or smth? im sure someone here can help you but i guess were too busy talking
ah fuck i forgot to reply
prime belfry
I HC ||Galacta Knight used the Room of Eden multiple times which is why he's abl...
what that room?
junior fiber
all i know is that all of these theories will be killed soon
leaden terrace
ill be glad
ocean mauve
try the sand ability
spark lotus
what that room?
do you mean "why" or "what is that room"
junior fiber
i'll be both happy and sad when we get a definitive answer
ruby narwhal
what that room?
It’s the Japanese name for the ethereal altar in Magolor epilogue
spark lotus
agh you beat me to it
leaden terrace
how does that theory go?
GK and the other heroes of yore fought Void and sealed him, but the Void or the jamba hearts i forgot specifically which one is more commonly said corrupted GK and turned him aggressive and feral
tawdry mulch
how does that theory go?
Basically Galactas encounter with the Jamba Heart with the heroes made him bite the bullet and get messed up by the darkness
leaden terrace
and he would go on to cause the 'galactic crisis' and eventually sealed
junior fiber
i like the jamba heart theory, its the one i believe, but im not sure how to explain aeon hero light
tawdry mulch
Just give me any thing about his character
odd rover
No offense but GK being just corrupted sounds underwhelming
I prefer him being 100% aware and in control of his actions
tawdry mulch
Im fine with anything really lmao
leaden terrace
idk i find the whole corrupted feral gk to be amusing so im still going w it
ruby narwhal
Just make him more than mk’s punching bag
leaden terrace
👏 WOOOO
prime belfry
Just make him more than mk’s punching bag
fr
"finally back aga- ah hell nah not you!"
"sup"
tawdry mulch
I'm sure they're gearing up for some Knights lore heavy game
junior fiber
Just give me any thing about his character <:kirbwah:879921201928097792>
again i'm expecting to get an answer in a few years 💀 it looks like the lore is speeding up kinda
leaden terrace
as for how void took over him, in my HC a part of void was shed onto GK's body. said part of void later developed into its own void and since GK was the first one he saw out of the 4, it decided it wanted to be like him. Usually, Void would just mimic who it saw, but since its basically injected itself in GK's body, it decided "im gonna BE him"
and so it just possesses GK, attains his war-loving trait and powers and just raises all hell
prime belfry
Does GK has some part of... himself? still
tawdry mulch
I basically just HC that there is some hidden knighthood that has a code of honor that GK, MK, Morpho, and the heroes follow individually. With the main goal being to protect order and stability in space-time
leaden terrace
in this case GK's totally unconscious, unaware of what happened around him and not even aware of the fact that he had been sealed until morpho knight came and burst the bubbles to him
odd rover
Here’s a hc
Fecto Elfilis, Zero, Morpho Knight, and Galacta Knight are all representatives of the four matters. Dream, dark, soul, heart, in that order. As for how they were born? 🤷♂️
leaden terrace
but that doesnt rly line up w the actual info we have so ill just change that anyways lol
wait no i already did whatever
leaden terrace
I basically just HC that there is some hidden knighthood that has a code of hono...
thats interesting!
prime belfry
Fecto Elfilis was born through pure destruction
First thing he did what destroy a planet, proud of him 
/j
odd rover
Here’s a hc
Fecto Elfilis, Zero, Morpho Knight, and Galacta Knight are all rep...
They all pull up at the matters convention
prime belfry
I HC ||Galacta Knight used the Room of Eden multiple times which is why he's abl...
So, after reading what the room was
Do you mean he was constantly trying to get stronger?
junior fiber
4 matters trilogy real
spark lotus
Do you mean he was constantly trying to get stronger?
this hc of mine goes off of ||the Room of Eden's general relation to death/the afterlife and repentance/redemption which there are like four little implications of||
tawdry mulch
mmm headcanons delicious delicious head canons
odd rover
I had so many weird headcanons
- Meta Knight and Kirby are clones of Galacta Knight.
- Meta Knight was alive during the Galactic Crisis and saved infant Kirby from Galacta Knight.
This is exactly like Final Fantasy VII
prime belfry
I love hcs!!! I love to see people big brains notice all the little details i don't!!!
leaden terrace
wait no i already did whatever
so i guess for a quick rundown, GK finds void in his subconscious realm, void identifies as cherry (which is my headcanoned GK's real name) so he gets confused, then realization sets in and he totally freaks out about it all the while void giggles like the child he is
tawdry mulch
I had so many weird headcanons
- Meta Knight and Kirby are clones of Galacta Kni...
honestly i think MK was around during ancient times to meet the ancients he knows a whole lost about them
spark lotus
it fits with ||Galacta Knight's record of not being defeated somehow (and also kinda explains why he violently explodes in Knightmare Returns but is alive elsewhere) and the whole "crying out from the many years spent living" thing||
tawdry mulch
in the novels at least lol
leaden terrace
so now hes just trapped in the same void as this... thing whos basically just taunting him and he cant do anything but contemplate his past and cry about it (which eventually lured in a hungry, hungry morpho knight)
tawdry mulch
i remember in the RTDL novel he speech checks Magolor when he said he was from Halcandra cause MK knows it should have been destroyed
spark lotus
||even if Galacta Knight doesn't want to live, personally, given the option I would stubbornly choose life every time||
prime belfry
I hc that in some kind of bizarre way MK did fight GK in PR storyline
tawdry mulch
i think he also speech checks Magolor on knowing about the copy ability too but i dont remember exactly
odd rover
Another hc: Galacta Knight sometimes regrets his actions, then he gets summoned again and goes “nah I was right”
prime belfry
Just tweak some things a bit here and there, and you get the fight with the clones
then galacta, and the finale
leaden terrace
for my last GK hc, since i talked all that lame backstory stuff, the GK u fight isnt GK at all its just void using his body so hes all feral and goofy and evil and he wants to destroy everything on sight
alright thats it lol
prime belfry
now those were some good hcs
tawdry mulch
yummy hcs
prime belfry
I mostly thought of GK at this warrior who was always up to fighting, not in the chaotic way but more of in the "If you have summoned me, then you must have wanted to fight me" due to the fear people had of him
But the Void headcanon just fits so much better with everything ngl, just right after becoming GK he goes on a rampage which gets him sealed
And coincidentally appearing on the place of one of his other version
spark lotus
I saw this post about an immortal swordsman who wanted to die in battle and they put a picture of Galacta Knight on top of it and I can't find it again
odd rover
One of my friend’s had a hc that Galacta Knight has intermittent explosive disorder
leaden terrace
But the Void headcanon just fits so much better with everything ngl, just right ...
i thought it just makes sense so i simply took it 
floral mantle
My Galacta Knight headcanon is that he views his sealment as a retirement and got pissed whenever they unsealed him for fight
leaden terrace
LOL
odd rover
I believe that too
prime belfry
lmao
prime belfry
lol it's really just this gif
floral mantle
Galacta knight is only antagonistic because you forced him out of retirement
odd rover
I like to think he genuinely fucking despises Meta Knight and Kirby because of how many times he’s fought them
floral mantle
I like to think he genuinely fucking despises Meta Knight and Kirby because of h...
That's why when the Butterfly show up, he's like Yes! YES!
Cuz the Butterfly let him rest for real
odd rover
When he meets their prime versions it’ll be like
floral mantle
But he wasn't killed?
Hey, as long as no one disturbed his nap, he's good
He's only pissed at us for waking him up to fight
odd rover
Another hc
spark lotus
I got Reincarnated as a Knight of Hades
floral mantle
Another hc
He kill Nightmare, right? In clash?
odd rover
Yes
prime belfry
When I started with the series the only GK hc i knew what that he was an evil Kirby from the future 
Believed it for quite some time
odd rover
Lol
leaden terrace
LOL
floral mantle
When I started with the series the only GK hc i knew what that he was an evil Ki...
Nah, he's a grumpy old warrior who wants to nap in peace
But we keep waking him up
leaden terrace
i love that stupid hc so much it makes sense youd think that way but at the same time nothing points towards it ESPCIALLY if its used as like a theory
spark lotus
im just having an internal chortle imagining both the theories "Galacta Knight is Kirby from the future" and "Void is Kirby" together
leaden terrace
like what evidence is there? galacta knight is pink and kirby is pink?
spark lotus
not even the same shade of pink
odd rover
- pink
- powerful
- uh
- Early Kirby fandom was something else idk
prime belfry
Theres also the MK older then Kirby thing
Where eventually Kirby supposedly grow wings
spark lotus
that ones really popular
leaden terrace
i have nothing against that tbh lol
prime belfry
- pink
- powerful
- uh
- Early Kirby fandom was something else idk
I wish I didn't get to the franchise so late lol
leaden terrace
its surprisingly a harmless one
prime belfry
2000s Kirby fandom looked like a lot of fun
odd rover
Where eventually Kirby *supposedly* grow wings
I believe this actually
prime belfry
quite niche but still good
leaden terrace
im conflicted on whether kirby himself would grow wings but i WOULD think
wait real quick
prime belfry
(still is but it had it's charm idk how to say it lol)
spark lotus
I believe this actually
since 2 people haven't gone against it I'm going to take the shot and say I like the theory too..
spark lotus
the only issue is the cape wings thing, though Galacta Knight has wings we never see turn into a cape (and they don't meet in the middle, though Meta's sometimes don't either in RTDLDX)
tawdry mulch
that reminded me as a kid i was genuinely terrified during the escape segment of Meta Knights Revenge
when MK showed up at the top of the screen with that loud ass siren and wings sprouting out of his body i FREAKED OUT
it took me so long to beat that segment cause i was just like 'WTF WTF WTF WTF"
spark lotus
ye, that's like the first time in the series he ever has wings isn't it?
though the halberd has wings before that reveal
tawdry mulch
yeah i had no clue this mf had wings
leaden terrace
he fucking sprouts out those wings like some alien kinda shit
covert jasper
when MK showed up at the top of the screen with that loud ass siren and wings sp...
jun ishikawa jumpscare
leaden terrace
spark lotus
small hc of mine that they only sprout wings when they gather the willpower to fight 10,000 suns and win (exaggeration to understand it really)
tawdry mulch
inversely i did not have a negative reaction to the marx soul scream
after how much i suffered through true arena it felt like a reward LMFAO
warm totem
|| "Kumazaki confirms that in general there's not a straight, forward-flowing ti...
Idk I feel like it makes sense if everything happens in order of each game’s release
covert jasper
sure, but the devs don't really care about a timeline
novel fog
yeah, I'd rather just assume they go in order
but it doesn't matter too much
peak dagger
It's basically just that they don't forget what has happened in prior games and like to make connections and references, but they're still effectively making stand alone games. You can timeline then if you want, but most of the references are for the sake of the player remembering the irl previous games rather than pointing to something bigger
If you pop into the series with Triple Deluxe, you don't need to have played any of the prior games to understand it
covert jasper
yeah. the closest we have to a direct sequel game is like dream land 3 but even then if you didn't play dream land 2 you are fine
prime belfry
They mostly meant the fact that "past events did happen but don't matter for this game"
Every game is it's own experience, you don't have to
Let's say
Play Kirby's Super Star
To understand what's happening in Kirby 64
covert jasper
yup
prime belfry
Even though the former did happen
leaden terrace
thats my fave thing about kriby tbh
ive burnt out from the story-driven franchises a bit
so kirby not having to follow everything each game is refreshing
prime belfry
Even then I like how the modern games feel kind of more cohesive with past elements and all that
Not that it's a game changing experience if you play AM before TDX for example, but it's cool you know those things
leaden terrace
theres a lot more freedom and creativity that can be achieved w this
prime belfry
or characters
leaden terrace
so i rly dont mind there not being a timeline
peak dagger
A lot of the connections are just there to invoke the "I understood that reference!" response rather than being super super important
leaden terrace
ive burnt out from the story-driven franchises a bit
(being a metroid and mgs fan...)
yeah
prime belfry
A lot of the connections are just there to invoke the "I understood that referen...
pretty much, yes
leaden terrace
and i kinda would like it if they keep it that way
prime belfry
If anything the modern games have done have done more of their own thing instead of doing the same which is refreshing
thin forge
i propose a solution: we declare the original rtdl as non canon with this one in its place
tawdry mulch
release order is just my personal timeline cause it makes sense lmao
prisma island
It's easier on me to just pretend what happened in Nutty Noon 1 is an error and Magoland simply takes place in the future after he's finished his redemption arc
leaden terrace
the nutty noon one is funny
tawdry mulch
i know the devs say their isnt a timeline but that basically seems to be what they're doing basically but not making like prequels and junk lol
prisma island
prisma island
taranza prologue moment
spark lotus
ya see the "no timeline" thing a lot around here
I like the way someone said it about having a set timeline strangling creativity or so
leaden terrace
like MAYBE its not a prequel
but the game depicts past events
and ur watching it unfold once more (but not literally)
thin forge
susie prologue
covert jasper
half of the interview transcribed, look at how big this is (word count doesn't work because funny japanese)
marsh patrol
If they did a prequel, I imagine it’d be a) stuff in the time of the Ancients, or b) a, but Kirby and friends are sucked back in time
idk
thin prairie
Probably them being sucked back in time yea since theres already a hundred ways to time travel in kirby
Be cool if we got to see like if some characters had ancestors. Not kirby obviously but like dedede and such
leaden terrace
id def like a sucked back in time scenario
covert jasper
this but kirby and bandee
leaden terrace
TRUEEEEEEE
novel fog
id def like a sucked back in time scenario
the 'time' they get sucked to is actually the Dream Kingdom
leaden terrace
dedede gets to meet his distant ancestor as everyone else had already met theirs only to find a boar man and he gets extremely confused
(he would later meet his REAL ancestor whos a big scary penguin man)
lofty condor
Dinosaurs in the Kirby artstyle lol
leaden terrace
RIGHT DINOSAURS
thin prairie
So a galboros
leaden terrace
i wanna see a dinosaur in kirby style so bad
leaden terrace
the 'time' they get sucked to is actually the Dream Kingdom
no way..
covert jasper
Dinosaurs in the Kirby artstyle lol
omg did we really get no dinos in main kirby games yet
novel fog
we got dragons, close enough
covert jasper
like ok mass attack and got games got stuff like this
novel fog
we got dragons, close enough
dinosaurs are just scary dragons
leaden terrace
and theyre real!!
lofty condor
True but I need Dinos
lofty condor
Like actual dinos smhhh
thin prairie
In prehistoric times
Would they have limbs?
leaden terrace
but in contrast, dinos are a matter of fiction
spark lotus
and.. also a giant turkey? I think?
lofty condor
In prehistoric times
Would they have limbs?
That’s a good question lol
thin prairie
Also off topic why aren’t there galbo plushes
spark lotus
I just played through it so that's why i know
spark lotus
omg did we really get no dinos in main kirby games yet
in main games though.. hmmmm
there's a giant set of bones in raisin ruins but who knows what those belong to
spark lotus
and.. also a giant turkey? I think?
it might have been a dodo
thin prairie
All this talk of dinos just makes me remember that jarassic park rbay episode
We need fire kirbysouras to be canon NOW 
novel fog
oh yeah there's dinosaur bones in Rock Star
thin prairie
Were there any in rainbow curses desert level?
novel fog
oh yeah there's dinosaur bones in Rock Star
as official site says it in reference to stage 3, 砂漠のあなから落っこちたら、そこは恐竜の化石が横たわる神秘的などうくつ。 (basically 'If you fall down the hole in the desert, you will find yourself in a mysterious groove where dinosaur fossils lie.')
(from https://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nk4j/horobi_s/index.html)
and these seem to be the dinosaur bones they're talking about
so dinosaurs exist at least
and they're giant compared to Kirby (and most others, like Ribbon)
thin prairie
Since kirby is only 20cm that dino should be smaller than we think it is
Still relatively big though like the size of a shark or something
novel fog
well could be they're in the ground somewhere
thin prairie
Probably
thin prairie
Thinking of 64s planets makes me think, does popstar move?
Cause like every game where kirby travels space its like in a different solar system
novel fog
could just be there's a lot of planets around it
topaz wren
Yeah this ^
spiral bobcat
||Also it's funny to learn that Dedede can just
1 shot Rampaging Doomers with a full charge hammer flip when they go to 2nd phase||
harsh dragon
Brought down my True Arena run time to 17:50.66 with Dedede
Damn that’s good. I beat true arena with Dedede first try at sub 23 minutes.
spiral bobcat
Learning boss moves really helps a lot
spiral bobcat
Really?! Well Im taking not of that
harsh dragon
I wanna beat it with a different ability now
tawdry mulch
In prehistoric times
Would they have limbs?
So mad they got snuffed as friends in Star Allies
tawdry mulch
"Ermmm we made Driblee he's so cute isn't h-" GRAAAAH STFU GALBO IS BETTTEERRR
thin prairie
Ok I said lolo and lala as a joke but now I actually want to see lolo and lala with movesets
tawdry mulch
Head balancing
novel fog
how does he hold one of those ceiling switch things
tawdry mulch
Mouth
supple linden
the magolor soul defeat noise where he yells "kirby" was unused in original rtdl, right?
novel fog
no it is used there
novel fog
it's just his normal defeat sound lol
https://youtu.be/KBp78WaDiQ4?t=878 for example, at 14:38
supple linden
i could have sworn it was unused
unless there are 2 sounds of him yelling
novel fog
well Magolor's 2nd form in Main Mode uses different sound
leaden terrace
i could have sworn it was unused
unless there are 2 sounds of him yelling
u can only hear it in true arena in og
...
oh
it did play in extra mode
oh well
covert jasper
||tried to isolate the voices in OVERLORD and miserably failed, have my attempt here I guess if anyone wants it||
tawdry mulch
||magolor crying crocodile tears||
Not enough people popping off over the fact ||they finally put a character crying out into one of these songs after years of headcanons||
novel fog
well Magolor's 2nd form in Main Mode uses different sound
really Magolor 2nd form and Soul's voices are different in general
for example the sound they make at the start of the battle is different too
though the first sound they make for getting them to half health is the same
thin forge
magolor souls ||blue monster flame attack sounds like a bird cawing lol||
novel fog
and the normal 2nd form one sort of sounds like he is saying 'death' lmao
but yeah the sound they make for that attack is different too
leaden terrace
phase 2 is "howrr rhowrrr browww hurrrr"
soul is "REWRRRR RAAWRRRR HEUUUU KAABIIIIII"
if that makes sense
soul is a lot more high-pitched, ghastly
vapid kestrel
||Wait I never bothered paying attention to crowned doomer's lasers those are sectonia's patterns aren't they||
tawdry mulch
||PLANT LORE?!?!?! ||
queen rune
What if they remastered Triple deluxe and robobot as a double feature game?
lost briar
would honestly probably be tougher than you'd think
even with them having less levels than RtDL it's like
a lot of work that would need to be done
it's more likely they'd just remake one of the two and add more new stuff to it
novel fog
yeah
especially since you'd need to rework stuff to work with one screen
and then there's whatever you do about subgames
vapid kestrel
Im not sure on my feelings for triple deluxe but I feel like Imd rather just have a direct port of PR
I think my biggest issue with RtDL is it kind of feels to me like while the original content with magoland and epilogue are really good, I think the actual original game wasnt really polished enough
fathom cradle
Well at least most of the games don't really use the touch screen in a way that can't be replaced anyways
It's pretty much just dedede drum dash that uses both screens and having that verticality may be important
Mk returns can just be mapped to buttons
vapid kestrel
I think my biggest issue with RtDL is it kind of feels to me like while the orig...
Oh for the record I’m talking about visually
I don’t mean like
Changi g gameplay
fathom cradle
Hell mk quick and heal already are
peak dagger
I feel like if we get a double feature, it's going to be closer to plain ports, maybe some graphic upgrades but nothing extravagant. Proper remakes or extra stuff added I feel would be more likely to be one per, like this was
vapid kestrel
Yea I don’t think porting touchscreen functions will be too big a challenge, definitely way more work than rtdl though
fathom cradle
If it's a double feature I think it'd be unreasonable to expect hal to make it a rtdx situation
novel fog
Well at least most of the games don't really use the touch screen in a way that ...
yeah, I moreso mean there's a bit of HUD stuff
fathom cradle
Maybe they would include like a shared new subgame or mode between the two or something
vapid kestrel
If anything I kinda want that because I feel like 3DX and PR are modern enough that they can just be ported rather than what rtdl got
fathom cradle
If they both came together that'd be a hell of a lot of content together
vapid kestrel
Though I dunno how well 3DX would hold up being ported to HD
vapid kestrel
So true!
lost briar
compressed textures moment
vapid kestrel
I think my biggest issue with RtDL is it kind of feels to me like while the orig...
Anyway as I was saying here
I feel like there are a lot of visual effects in this story mode of deluxe where they didn’t really like
Put the passion in to really make it good rather than just like
Ok the asset has hd textures now or something
Its one of those things that happens a lot in remakes where not everything is improved to the same extent and its plain to see when you think about it
For example they put a lot of effort into revitalizing the visual effects for magolor’s attacks and the super abilities
Even though honestly besides the silly looking lasers those were probably already some of the best effects in the original
Meanwhile a lot of other effects that aren’t from as iconic parts kinda get shafted in comparison
prisma island
well i mean prioritizing when there's limited dev time makes sense
vapid kestrel
Yea definitely
Though I feel like at the very least all the bosses should’ve been high priority
I kinda feel like they needed to put more effort into the regular bosses
leaden terrace
its so amazing how much more beautiful the visuals have become
vapid kestrel
Big one for me is Grand Doomer where I think it’s really weird how like ‘it’s ok ig’ his effects are
Weird both because I think the regular doomers have very good looking effects
leaden terrace
oh yeah true that ones weird to me
i never rly like thought about it till now tho
vapid kestrel
And also because like
He’s probably the most important boss in the story mode that’s not on Halcandra
ocean mauve
reminds me that I wish they imported the clash remixes for extra mode :/ both the base boss theme and grand doomer got one! agh
vapid kestrel
Now Imm not saying grand doomer’s look bad I just think they’re not amazing and I feel like grand doomer should’ve needed to be amazing
But you know what’s absolutely bad
Goriath’s spirit bomb it looks like dogshit
prisma island
reminds me that I wish they imported the clash remixes for extra mode :/ both th...
true, honestly. i was kinda surprised after they pinned roar of dedede on hr-d3 that landia didn't get that drum backing
vapid kestrel
What is this shit
Like the biggest visual improvement between rtdl and 3dx were the effects
There were a bunch of effects in rtdl that screamed anateurish ‘this is our first rodeo’
And of course rtdl was in fact their first rodeo basically
vapid kestrel
What is this shit
But like
Why was this thing not redone for the remake it looks horrible omg
ocean mauve
I honestly don't see the Badness but also I don't have an eye for this kinda thing lol
acoustic crescent
same for me tbh...? 😅
leaden terrace
theres enough noise that you dont really tell whats going on but at the same time yeah i can see the need for improvement lol
lost briar
What is this shit
lol yeah its so funny how flat it is
ocean mauve
ahh yeah guess it's pretty bland
original rtdl looks so uncanny after playing the remake
lost briar
which is weird since they updated the Another Dimension segment walls
to be actual models
vapid kestrel
Like im not at my computer I dunno how easy it’ll be to pull up images for it but like
You know spark barrier
It was insane the first time I looked back at rtdl wii and realize how much better it looked on 3ds
I think that’s a big thing is like
It’s harder to notice improvements than it is to notice regression
burnt slate
im not that big of a fan of the explosions in dx
stuff like searches (the enemy) going off, metal general's rocket crashes, grand doomer's orb bombs
glossy jay
I still haven't finished extra mode or touched the epilogue😅
vapid kestrel
Rtdl wii full charge spark barrier vs PR vs SA Plasma vs RtDL Dx Spark
lost briar
tbf that 3DS screenshot is like
ocean mauve
ironic since spark felt the worst to use in the 3ds games
lost briar
upscaled compared to the rest lmao
SA's zoomed out camera is not doing Plasma any favors
vapid kestrel
I mean the point isn’t the pixels lmao its the design of the barrier
leaden terrace
Rtdl wii full charge spark barrier vs PR vs SA Plasma vs RtDL Dx Spark
pretty litle sparkies..
rtdldx perfected it
lost briar
i mean at a lower resolution that barrier design could easily be just as noisy as the others
leaden terrace
PRB looked p good but i think it moreso suits ESP
vapid kestrel
But yea hard to find a good pic of what it actually looks like in SA
leaden terrace
btw can i also say kirby's current design is amazing too
sure its just the face size difference
but idk i loe this one
ocean mauve
rtdl got such a small face
SA meanwhile looks like this
vapid kestrel
Here’s what it looks like when you shoot it out at least
ocean mauve
plugg: gets kicked in the nuts
Argh! My plasma balls!
vapid kestrel
Its still so strange to me Plasma was like
The one ability where they realized having the camera so zoomed out completely changes the gamefeel of the abilities and that they would needed to be adjusted
lost briar
i mean they probably also realized it in TD
vapid kestrel
So when you shoot in SA with plasma your barrier just suddenly grows in size until its like
As big on screen as it would’ve been in rtdl
lost briar
because they just nerfed abilities in ways that weren't related to performance