[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

[junior mesa]

oh also wasn't Raisin Ruins like
confirmed ancients stuff?
from the new song name?

[junior fiber]

idk if they meant like

[tawdry mulch]

Vestiges of the old guys

[junior fiber]

ancient popstar people or

Ancient

people

[lofty condor]

They had 3 more movies after this btw

[junior fiber]

they made 4 movies for norm of the fucking north but kirby doesnt get a new anime

[odd rover]

Iirc the Ancients and ancients from Raisin Ruins don’t use the same characters in Japanese

[junior mesa]

Vestiges of the Ancients feels very on-the-nose
if it were just random ancients i feel like they wouldn't have put the, but idk
maybe translation hiccup if not halcandran ancients?

[junior fiber]

so probably just ancients yeah

[spark lotus]

the fact Dooter is also from a foreign nation is also suspicious in this context

[junior fiber]

not the Ancients

[tawdry mulch]

Idk why it wouldn't be the ancients lmao

[spark lotus]

in raisin ruins they have some symbols and stuff on the pillars of some eye looking thing

[junior fiber]

i feel like it could go either way

doesnt DL3 also have a weird alien pyramid

in a desert

[spark lotus]

im thinking of Kirby 64

[odd rover]

Ancient Waddle Dees

[spark lotus]

on Rock Star, I think

[junior mesa]

must say tho the song gets good suddenly at 1:05
https://youtu.be/xbjVKUiKpKw&t=65s

[junior fiber]

i swear i remember one being in dl3 too

[tawdry mulch]

Yes that level is very long

Rob level

[junior fiber]

ancient rob...

[spark lotus]

i wonder if pyramids are weird in the Kirby universe. there's some in raisin ruins.

[junior mesa]

rob = made by = ancients = atfl people = humans + earth canon from dl1

[spark lotus]

that'd be like saying towers are weird though.. pyramid like objects are already built by multiple cultures irl, it just happens to be an efficient way to stack rocks

anyway.. good night

[odd rover]

One of the comments talking about FL suggesting the New World people moved to Dream Land

Lol

[vapid kestrel]

Its funny to think about how unnatural modern buildings are compared to domes and pyramids

[tawdry mulch]

And they're correct 😤

[vapid kestrel]

Tfw our prowess to build structures got good enough that we optimize for efficient use of space instead of feasible structures

[junior mesa]

tbh i do kind of think that at least some of the FL people migrated or at least met up with at least the ancients / halcandran folk
since them getting all of the dream tech from fecto studying makes sense

& the ancients seem to like dream tech

common theme

[tawdry mulch]

Me when wise waddle dee not so subtly says in the novel that Pop Star and the New World may have been connected in the past

[odd rover]

Wdym why would they meet themselves

[junior mesa]

[odd rover]

True yeah

Blue print things

[vapid kestrel]

||Honestly the thing that still gets to me the most is the Master Crown has regular feather wings instead of bat wings in its Epilogue fight||

||What does it mean||

[odd rover]

https://tenor.com/view/dhmis-donthugmeimscared-dont-hug-look-gif-5046911

[tawdry mulch]

Dedede is broken af in true arena I haven't even touched a tomato when I was struggling with MK before lmaoo

[junior mesa]

||it just means that it got better cooler wings because leaves
don't think it means anything||

[thin forge]

||leaves||

sometimes stuff just exists to look cool

[vapid kestrel]

||I mean I guess like of course Magolor 2 and Magolor Soul’s wings are also the crowns and they don’t look like bat wings either||

[vapid kestrel]

Oh I don’t mean thise wings

[junior mesa]

||oh do you mean like
the design of the crown itself on the tree?||

[junior fiber]

oh huh they did

[tawdry mulch]

||The crown gets a silly symoblic snake eye and pretty wings||

||What's with the crown and having 4 weirdly shaped horns||

[stray arch]

What if kirby got the master crown?

[tawdry mulch]

Headachr

[junior fiber]

they're not even symmetrical 😭

[junior fiber]

crown shatters

[junior mesa]

he would eat the darkness and call it a day
or the crown would not sense any darkness to build off of and just
not be evil

[stray arch]

Understandable

[vapid kestrel]

Yea these

[junior fiber]

this probably wasnt intentional but i like how the ||master crown|| has stars on it, makes it look like all the other super ability targets

[vapid kestrel]

||I think it’s funny Magolor Soul is canon but the crown design for Mistilteinn is based on the story mode phase 2 crown||

[junior fiber]

pick your favourite and role with it HAL 😡

[tawdry mulch]

||Sussy tree got the Star patterns||

[stray arch]

Don't the super ability targets have pointier stars?

[junior mesa]

best of both worlds

[thin forge]

why is bro a ||drill, mans gonna kill star dream or smth||

[junior fiber]

yeah it probably wasnt intentional but i still think its funny

[vapid kestrel]

Still missing the peak that is story mode crown wings tho

[junior fiber]

||he even gets sliced by an ultra sword||

[stray arch]

Imagine if some random character got the crown

Like waddle doo

[junior fiber]

the crown wouldn't need to give it an eye ball since you know

[tawdry mulch]

Two eyes

[stray arch]

[tawdry mulch]

I shudder at the thought

[junior fiber]

cursed 😭

man this conversation got me looking at the ||mistilteinn|| design again and its so awesome

[vapid kestrel]

Like I love how the wings just straight up come out of the crown’s sides in story mode phase 2

Compared to magolor soul where the wings comparatively normally looking come out the back

[thin forge]

agreed

[tawdry mulch]

EWWWWW

[vapid kestrel]

Now that I put this into words, lowkey reminds me of Elfilis’s ear wings

[junior fiber]

they were NOT cooking with this one

[tawdry mulch]

NONONONO

It's okay breathe in breathe out it's foreshadowing double kracko

[thin forge]

I FORGOT THIS WAS A THING

[stray arch]

Did they actually

[thin forge]

was bout to say that

[stray arch]

And I never noticed?

[junior mesa]

yes

the twin kracko logo

[stray arch]

Omg

[junior mesa]

that's the legit one

[thin forge]

maybe we thought itd be a different cloud

[stray arch]

It's just one dude

[junior fiber]

this mans head is empty, his only thoughts are kill and murder

[odd rover]

Bro the hell

[tawdry mulch]

Oh boy I'm about to fight him now

I'm at red hp but haven't used any healing items sooooo might just try and do no healing run LMAO

Dedede is broken as fuck

[thin forge]

calling it now

ur gonna die

go my friend, prove me wrong

[tawdry mulch]

||this adds an extra attack to soul. The Apple. I can't take it. ||

[stray arch]

🍎

[junior fiber]

i cant fathom doing the ME bosses without magolor surge in the TA

[vapid kestrel]

||The apple despawns in the middle of the first sand tornado its not really an obstacle||

[neat path]

||Head is so empty that he can't put up a decent fight without being on Magolor's head.||

[tawdry mulch]

Ok it's soul time horray!!! (I will die in two hits)

[junior fiber]

i thought that it was pretty hard, but then again i suck at kirby so

took me like 4 tries lol

[vapid kestrel]

||It do be pretty hilarious how little health Master Crown has||

||Less health than Fatty Puffer EX||

[junior fiber]

why 😭

[tawdry mulch]

I BEAT IT LMAOOO

[junior fiber]

W

[coarse flower]

||cant wail on it at all times||

[odd rover]

Probably because ||you can only attack the roots||

[tawdry mulch]

Oh poor baby

[junior fiber]

oh true

speaking of that

||i thought it was pretty normal size because it stayed in the background the whole fight, but then when it slammed down on the actual foreground i was like ||

||i saw the big shadow and panicked, ended up killing me||

[odd rover]

True

[tawdry mulch]

I see why they said Dedede is the one of strongest life forms on Pop Star now

[coarse flower]

also why does it ||lowering itself further hit a second time||

[junior fiber]

to piss you off

[tawdry mulch]

Went from failing multiple times with MK to the cleanest run of my life with Dedede

[junior fiber]

and show its ||awesome eye||

[coarse flower]

why does ||tree crown|| look like ||the final boss of persona 3||

[maiden crane]

||when man devoured the fruit of knowledge ||

[peak dagger]

||I audibly kinda yelled a bit out of startle with that one 😂||

[coarse flower]

||https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/kirby/images/7/78/Crowned_Tree.png/revision/latest?cb=20230226145824&path-prefix=en|| ||https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fiction-battlefield/images/a/a1/Nyx-1.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20190902103248&path-prefix=pt-br||

[vapid kestrel]

Also reminder that Star Dream talks like the lifeforms on Popstar are particularly powerful compared to other planets anyway

[coarse flower]

for comparison

[vapid kestrel]

So dedede is one of the strongest lifeforms on a particularly powerful planet

[junior fiber]

popstar is filled with insanely powerful creatures when you think about it

main protagonist moment

[rustic trellis]

star dream knows popstar is strong af, why do you think the first thing it does when it gains sentience is run away

[junior fiber]

lmao true

[peak dagger]

Get me out of this crazy place! I'll nuke them from a distance

[junior fiber]

"im gonna kill everyone, but uhh you guys last"

[coarse flower]

||THE ARCANA IS THE MEANS BY WHICH ALL IS REVEALED||

[odd rover]

Woah they are kinda similar

[junior mesa]

alternate timeline where he goes "hahaha im going to kill you all!!" and sends a nuclear missile from the access ark like 2 feet in front of its location

[coarse flower]

in either version hes mainly talking about meta knight after assasinating haltmann

[tawdry mulch]

Goofy ah penguin and his rotund associates cited as the strongest beings in the known universe

[junior fiber]

bet Haltmann regretted picking popstar

[rustic trellis]

Dedede when he most likely is the second strongest force in the multiverse, next to a literal ball of infinite power

[junior fiber]

sectonia also probably felt stupid for sending taranza to get dedede during that final stare down

[coarse flower]

infinite power was a mistranslation

[junior fiber]

entire life's work ruined in a day

[coarse flower]

and meta knight is PROBABLY stronger

[peak dagger]

She was screwed either way. If it was Kirby that has been kidnapped, it still would have ended badly

[rustic trellis]

I mean, meta knight never made it past Winter Horns...

[junior fiber]

fr

[thin forge]

bro didnt know anything was out there

[junior fiber]

for all we know he could've just thought like "ehh im done."

[rustic trellis]

sure, its not confirmed dedede kicked his ass

[tawdry mulch]

A based mistranslation cause it sounds raw

[thin forge]

yeah he didnt know there was another continent

[coarse flower]

he never tried

[junior mesa]

pretty sure he didn't go past because he wanted to protect dee town tho

[rustic trellis]

but im going to choose to believe that over MK being like "eh, nothing here lmao"

[coarse flower]

nah, a based mistranslation is the shadow realm

[junior mesa]

• winter horns is the end of the first island

so he'd have to fly oversea to get to the next

[rustic trellis]

all im saying is Mk sucks at collectathons, he got 0 dees

[thin forge]

i recognize the council has made a mistranslation, but given that its a based mistranslation, ive elected to make it canon

[vapid kestrel]

I’m talking about the line in Jp where Star Dream says that Dark Matter is strong ‘even for this planet’, meaning this planet is already particularly strong

[thin forge]

hold me back im bouta make the joke

[tawdry mulch]

Motion carried

[coarse flower]

whos the one who beat gk

[junior mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/waddle-dee-waddle-waddle-dn-deez-nuts-kirby-gif-21977951

[coarse flower]

it wasnt dedede

[thin forge]

thank you

[rustic trellis]

Yes, but when has dedede ever faced GK?

[junior mesa]

rtdl ta

[rustic trellis]

That would only be a fair comparison if both of them faced GK, with MK winning and dedede losing

[vapid kestrel]

Infinite power was not a mistranslation

[coarse flower]

that or star dream assumes it's strong (see basic waddle dees)

[tawdry mulch]

Dedede beat DMK who is the clone of the guy that beat GK and also beat MK himself therefore Dedede is stronger than GK

[rustic trellis]

by that logic dedede kicked GK's ass way faster than meta knight could bc damn hes busted

[tawdry mulch]

Ermmm hello based department

[junior mesa]

wasn't the kirby infinite power thing just to say that kirby can copy anything = infinite potential?

since he can master anything he eats

[peak dagger]

Waddle Dees may not be warriors, but I get the impression they're sturdy little things

[coarse flower]

cringe
it was "ability to solve all problems" or "infinite possibilities/potential"

[junior mesa]

eats fighter -> becomes master fighter

[coarse flower]

they die in one hit

from anything

[rustic trellis]

i mean id die in one hit too if kirby shot something at me

[peak dagger]

And are right back to whatever they were doing when you walk away

[tawdry mulch]

Waddle dees wave at the screen when summones from the abyss they know all

[coarse flower]

but gk is stronger than DMK

[coarse flower]

try again

[rustic trellis]

wdym try again?

[coarse flower]

i know what it said
infinite potential

[rustic trellis]

Faye literally translated it?

[tawdry mulch]

Ermmmmm

[coarse flower]

contradicts what was written before

[junior fiber]

ctrl f, ermmm im not finding potential anywhere here

[tawdry mulch]

Yeah guys let's just use DeepL

[junior mesa]

okay is this argument just about whether kirby is infinitely powerful v.s. infinite potential?

im confuzzled

[coarse flower]

yeah
imo it was infinite potential

[tawdry mulch]

I love this argument one of my favorites

[coarse flower]

because kirby is not all powerful

[tawdry mulch]

But he can eat a car

[rustic trellis]

I mean if you wanna post a screenshot showing us where it says infinite potential

be my guest

[tawdry mulch]

Can you do that

[junior mesa]

i do agree to an extent
but i also wonder if maybe it's a mix of both?
but yeah, a lot of kirby final bosses he used assists for

[junior mesa]

if i was thrown in warpy-AD-ville maybe i could too

[junior fiber]

what does infinite power even imply though, i dont think it really matters tbh

[coarse flower]

why'd he need help on nightmare + dark matter + zero + dark mind + dark nebula + sectonia + magolor + star dream + void termina + fecto-elfilis

[vapid kestrel]

Well luckily, my fair bitch, PR is the only game where like two translators tackled all its pause descriptions so besides my own translations I can also cite kaialone’s

[junior mesa]

you forgot 02

[coarse flower]

• dark crafter

[coarse flower]

no
i forgot dark crafter

[vapid kestrel]

Because infinite power and omnipotence are not the same thing

The Master Crown also has infinite power and no one ever questioned how Kirby beat Magolor

[rustic trellis]

kirby might have infinite power but he still has the iq of a toddler

[junior fiber]

but what does infinite power mean even

[coarse flower]

he would be able to fly to magolor

[rustic trellis]

just a really, really powerful toddler

[coarse flower]

and shoot down the starcutter w/o landia

[tawdry mulch]

The dark beings are simply also infinitely powerful as they are Kirby's universal equals 🧠

[vapid kestrel]

Absolutely nothing

[junior fiber]

based.

[vapid kestrel]

Its a fiction buzzword to say a character is strong

But you can’t give details its not that type of term

[coarse flower]

but then it gets to a point where it makes no sense and is contradicted

like

[vapid kestrel]

Its like asking what does it mean for a character to be a god

[rustic trellis]

limitless power on the other hand...

[coarse flower]

kirby is quite strong

but not invincible

[vapid kestrel]

Its the same word in Jp

[coarse flower]

(solos morpho in FL)

[tawdry mulch]

The limitless power of the Kirby crown

[vapid kestrel]

You see that’s the fun part
Where in the world did anyone say Kirby was invincible

[junior mesa]

true
i think that, in a sense, a being could have "infinite power" but that doesn't inherently mean "kirby can end all life in an instant," there's at least some level of clear physical limitation yeah

[rustic trellis]

Kirby is but a worm compared to the 4-3 cutter puzzle

[junior fiber]

limitless power, unlimited strength even, unending capability if you may, eternal might if you so please

[tawdry mulch]

Normalize being infinitely powerful and using that power to catch fish by the lake

[vapid kestrel]

Having infinite power does not make you invincible or omnipotent, having infinite power and being able to lose fights isn’t a contradiction

[tawdry mulch]

Too powerful even for him

[coarse flower]

infinite power would make him literally unstoppable and he shouldnt have any struggle on anything ever

and also magolor only THOUGHT it had endless power

[rustic trellis]

Infinite power means literally nothing if you dont have the brainpower to use it

[junior mesa]

i think the common assumption here is that infinite power = infinite output

[junior fiber]

infinite power means kirby's as strong as HAL needs him to be in any given situation there

[tawdry mulch]

Kirby is VERY dumb

[junior mesa]

possible it's just not infinite output lol

[fallow burrow]

It’s like having an infinite water tank and a small faucet

[junior mesa]

physical limitation

[vapid kestrel]

I mean again, the master crown also has infinite power and magolor isn’t baby brain, infinite power does not mean invincibility

[junior fiber]

[coarse flower]

dude kirby should null off all damage and be one shotting these other guys

but no

[coarse flower]

magolor only thought it did

[rustic trellis]

Where does it say that the crown doesnt have infinite power?

[coarse flower]

in reality it contained ||hateful souls or something||

[fallow burrow]

Again, infinite water tank dousing mean infinitely large faucet

[lofty condor]

Infinite Power means I can punt anybody here across the field

[coarse flower]

the fact that magolor lost

and then ||the crown lost||

[tawdry mulch]

Tbf when faced with the destroyer of all life in the universe that looks like him his thought is "lets beat this guy already so we can have lunch and take a nap"

[junior fiber]

infinite power means your maternal figure

[fallow burrow]

Infinitely charged battery pack doesn’t mean infinitely bright lightbulb, just a lightbulb with an infinite lifespan

[coarse flower]

needed help from like 3 other people tho to actually damage the body

[lofty condor]

So Magolor is the one with infinite power then
Forget Kirby kills gods, Magolor is the one killing the gods!!!!!

[junior fiber]

what're we even talking about now i dont really get it

[lofty condor]

We should replace Kirby as the main character right now!!!

[coarse flower]

not what i was saying

[vapid kestrel]

Brody do you consider it logical to make all these mental gymnastics to explain why things explicitly described as having infinite power are losing instead of just challenging your false belief that something with infinite power is equivalent to being omnipotent

[tawdry mulch]

Kirby simply did not have enough limbs for the conviently placed Heart Handles ™️

[coarse flower]

what i was saying is that magolor was not a god

[fallow burrow]

How infinite power does not equal infinitely large output, just outputting a finite amount for an infinite duration

[coarse flower]

because they are one and the same
he should be unstoppable

[rustic trellis]

He simply wasnt tall enough to ride

[junior fiber]

alright......

[coarse flower]

no it could be an infinite output as well

[coarse flower]

if yall think im saying kirbys weak

im not

[vapid kestrel]

Literally everything is going against your assumption that they are the same

[junior mesa]

okay so like
I feel like this argument is taking two extreme sides when the answer isn't just black or white
like, we know that kirby has infinite power, or at least infinite potential
but that doesn't automatically = infinite output
he clearly struggles, but that doesn't mean his "infinite power" couldn't just be bottle-necked to whatever tool he's using / ability

[junior fiber]

infinite power literally means nothing though 😭

[junior mesa]

that's the confusing part yeah lol

[coarse flower]

no it means all powerful

[vapid kestrel]

Brody if I had a car battery that had infinite power I could not blow up the sun

[fallow burrow]

Again, infinite power means an infinitely large water tank. This does not say anything about the faucet outputting the water, and given that magolor had to actually do stuff and get in dirty, it probably wasn’t an infinitely large faucet, but rather a finite one

[vapid kestrel]

Brody do you think this is a logical statement

[junior fiber]

like what does this "infinite power" define

[tawdry mulch]

He is Kibley the maybe incarnation of God who lives in an igloo and goes fishing on weekends this is all we need to know

[junior fiber]

kirbly

[coarse flower]

if you used all of its power at once

[junior mesa]

if it does mean that and if kirby isn't that then like
how come 4 dudes can even take on an infinitely powerful crown lord

[coarse flower]

and why cant kirby not use it

huh

[junior mesa]

even if they're working together like
how

[coarse flower]

neither kirby nor the crown were all powerful at all

nor was magolor

[junior mesa]

that's just

[fallow burrow]

But that’s the thing

YOU CANT

Infinite battery pack does NOT mean infinite output

[junior mesa]

ignoring things we know lol

[neat path]

Things with infinity power cannot beat Kirby because he is simply a greater infinity 😎😎😎

[jolly valve]

Next Kirby game better keep Sand and Mecha because I wanna see Mid-Bosses based on them. I want me a bigger sand lizard lmao

[junior mesa]

kuma has said that it has infinite power on miiverse, even

[coarse flower]

yes you can
if you can make an infinite battery
WHY NOT MAKE AN INFINITE ENGINE
also nothing is stopping kirby from using this power

[rustic trellis]

Saying Kirby nor Magolor have the infinite power is nothing more than denying what is clearly stated in RtDL and PRB

[rustic trellis]

But there is something stopping kirby: a lack of intelligence

[junior fiber]

this makes zero sense

[tawdry mulch]

Dumb kirby

[coarse flower]

it does not take intellegence to punch hard

also the fact that yall have to say kirby is outright stupid is...

[tawdry mulch]

Jesus Christ himself messenger of origin cannot write legibly

[fallow burrow]

Again, go back to the water tank visualization. If you had an infinitely large water tank (master crown), but a finite water faucet (it’s ability to output said power), how do you output an infinite amount of water in a finite amount of time? Explain this to me, because unless you tell me how it does so, your argument is essentially null and void

[thin forge]

did someoen say void

[tawdry mulch]

Kirby has been gifted with the might of all holy creation and is too dumb to even consider using it

[thin forge]

https://tenor.com/view/void-termina-kirby-ohio-final-boss-darkness-death-gif-27439965

[junior mesa]

watch this turn into void argument lol

[tawdry mulch]

I'm treading too close to fire

[rustic trellis]

WHY DID YOU SAY VOID

YOU FOOl

[fallow burrow]

My name causes wars by my mere presence

[tawdry mulch]

NO I DIDNY

[thin forge]

I LOVE VOID

[tawdry mulch]

I did BUT NO

[junior mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-void-soul-gif-25810339

[tawdry mulch]

Please I cant take the citations again

[thin forge]

i wanna put him in my mouth like a jawbreaker

[junior fiber]

i've had enough for one night

[coarse flower]

if you can make an infinite water tank
you can make an infinite spout

[neat path]

Void is Kirby…’s father’s uncle’s mother’s cousin’s former roommate’s janitor

[rustic trellis]

hey did you know that void termina is a being that is eas-

[coarse flower]

limitless power was a lie

[fallow burrow]

But we (at least hal) didn’t, that’s the thing

[junior mesa]

do you have anything to prove or suggest that

[tawdry mulch]

Kirby gets hungry however

[junior mesa]

because this is kumazaki blankly saying it

[tawdry mulch]

Him need food

[junior mesa]

not saying that magolor thought it
saying that it is

[coarse flower]

magolor L + landia L + ||grand doomer L + Crown itself L||

[junior mesa]

that
doesn't explain anything

[neat path]

Could Kirby eat infinite Whoppers in a finite amount of time?

[thin forge]

void termina solos!!!!!

[tawdry mulch]

I don't think so

[junior mesa]

what answer is "magolor L"

[fallow burrow]

Unless Kirby has an infinite suck range, or the whoppers got super tasked, no

[coarse flower]

none should have been beatable

but alas

they all were

[worldly burrow]

https://twitter.com/kaialone02/status/1635074064653119488?t=EPCageg-zhRWigkqYxTnGQ&s=19

Yo-kaialone (@kaialone02)

#KirbysReturntoDreamLandDeluxe

I figured you guys would get a kick outta this fella's German name

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[rustic trellis]

Super inhale

[coarse flower]

they were overcome

[worldly burrow]

New insult dropped

[tawdry mulch]

Kirby power checked by the infinite whopper theorem

[thin forge]

oh my god

[tawdry mulch]

Dicklipp

[coarse flower]

Di Clip

[junior mesa]

i feel like this problem is purely caused because you're assuming that limitless power = limitless output

• the term isn't ever specified properly to begin with

so we don't even know

[worldly burrow]

imma start calling ppl dicklips

[junior mesa]

but we can't just rule it out because we don't get it

that's just ignoring lore lmao

[rustic trellis]

very rude of you to be insulting us like that, dicklip

[junior mesa]

for the sake of hc

[fallow burrow]

I’ve tried explaining infinite water tank vs finite faucet and they keep responded “then just make an infinite faucet”

[tawdry mulch]

But I love hc

[coarse flower]

it should be infinite output

[junior mesa]

lmao

[junior mesa]

why should it be

[worldly burrow]

ILL HAVE YOU KNOW i have more than one dicklip

[coarse flower]

kirby can output infinite

[fallow burrow]

No?

[junior mesa]

how

[coarse flower]

why CANT kirby output infinite

[coarse flower]

if hes really that powerful

[odd rover]

Mfw fractal faucet

[tawdry mulch]

Hungry

[fallow burrow]

Kirby has infinite energy (maybe, idk), but can’t output an infinite amount

[coarse flower]

disagree m8

[thin forge]

these guys when i tell them about potential

[odd rover]

He definitely does have infinite power stored within him (Mouthful Mode he uses himself to power the objects)

[coarse flower]

if he had infinite energy he wouldnt get tired and get knocked out

[fallow burrow]

I’m about to cause a war in
3
2
1
Hornet is void termina

[rustic trellis]

: (

[thin forge]

stop cooking

[neat path]

Could Kirby defeat Jack Horner?

[jolly valve]

Nah the most powerful Kirby characters are Gordo and Shotzo

[tawdry mulch]

Hornet is not void urgghhhhh

I'm fuming and steaming

[coarse flower]

or they have the power without him

[junior mesa]

if you have an infinite stomach dimension you'd be bottle capped by a mouth
in the same way it's more reasonable to figure "hey, kirby's physical body bottlecaps the power depending on his ability / tool / etc." instead of "i will ignore this canon lore statement because i don't agree with it"

[rustic trellis]

kirby just absorbs the bag and gets magic

[junior fiber]

Yeah cuz she’s void soul

[coarse flower]

no its the bottomless pit (and also magolor could kill gordos)

[fallow burrow]

SINCE WHEN??????????

[rustic trellis]

When he chucks them at the floor

[odd rover]

Well they’re all non-functioning when he obtains them

A car left to rot for thousands of years probably isn’t running at all

[tawdry mulch]

Oh shit true Kirby can't kill Gordo

[coarse flower]

in the boss fight
ik we were just in a dumb argument but this time i am facting fr fr

[neat path]

https://tenor.com/view/void-termina-discord-laughing-meme-gif-22257325

[rustic trellis]

acutally kirby can kill gordos

by dropping terrain on them in friend star

But thats still technically kirbys doing

[peak dagger]

You can also just drop barrels on them lol

[coarse flower]

ehh the beast pack may have used some of them

[rustic trellis]

Which goes for magolor chucking them at the floor as well

[tawdry mulch]

If Gordo was smart then maybe he'd be the strongest character. But the one Gordo boss fucking made himself vulnerable in one game then never came back

[jolly valve]

I take it back. The most powerful being is that one metal cutter platform

[coarse flower]

2 games

[rustic trellis]

Forget kirby or the master crown

[coarse flower]

he was in dl2

[rustic trellis]

gordo has infinite power

[coarse flower]

bottomless pits

[tawdry mulch]

Metal platform...

[junior mesa]

average rtdl player

[odd rover]

I don’t think so since we never see them actually use the tech

I’m mainly referring to the henchmen

[fallow burrow]

I actually was one of 3 people who avoided this, both in the original and the remake

[coarse flower]

they destroy the platform if the platform falls in

[vapid kestrel]

I like that they had this and then did it again in star allies with daroach

[odd rover]

The bosses couldn’t even fit inside a car or truck cab

[pliant socket]

||https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ISTeoJ-KDBjN9xXZjqM98YarBYiUreAwM8wlc6gjojQ/edit?usp=sharing || @novel fog I'm done 👍

[rustic trellis]

I like how its angeled the wrong way

[tawdry mulch]

Portal lore

[pliant socket]

20 pages of portal goodness

[rustic trellis]

yo new portal lore just dropped

[coarse flower]

i'd assume they may want a drink (so vending machine)
and we never see the trucks so truck
only one left is the car

[junior mesa]

[coarse flower]

wheatley

[neat path]

https://tenor.com/view/wheatley-crab-portal-chell-wheatley-glad-os-gif-22750586

[tawdry mulch]

Omg it's the Kirby planet robobot zero concept art no way

[junior mesa]

😱😱😱😱

[odd rover]

https://tenor.com/view/vending-machine-kick-whoops-fail-vandalism-gif-20375168

[fallow burrow]

Make a star dream glados

[rustic trellis]

Kirby and Daroach would bond over their trauma in hell

[tawdry mulch]

The portal has been opened thanks to the super abiliti

[rustic trellis]

change my mind

[pliant socket]

DID I ACTUALLY TYPE THAT

[rustic trellis]

GLaDOS opening a portal after attacking chell with Monster Flame

[pliant socket]

😭

im too tired istg

[fallow burrow]

Glados: throws the moon through a portal at chell

[rustic trellis]

I cant belive GLaDOS even showed of a new super ability for poison, Tremendous Toxins

[neat path]

Ok! *surgically removes your brain, and puts a new one in its place*

[rustic trellis]

damn why tf would daroach ever go to hell

what was prior me thinking

[vapid kestrel]

I think you could note that warp holes are canonically opened using Sectonia’s magic so that she could move her army

[thin forge]

omg in in the special thanks

yayyy

[pliant socket]

i will do that rn

[tawdry mulch]

No I just said it cause it's 12 30 am and I should not be awake

[vapid kestrel]

Anyway this document fucks hard

[pliant socket]

ok put you in special thanks

[rustic trellis]

i wonder what other small consistencies we could document

I wonder if the NOVA objects have any significance

oh god no the late night brainrots taking over

[novel fog]

eh, missing some but still pretty good

[neat path]

https://tenor.com/view/marx-2219-kirby-meme-generator-gif-22915205

[rustic trellis]

just wanna say from the preview image it looked like to me that dark nebula was edited over the portal

rock star got nebula vibes ig

[thin forge]

stop generating marks please

[neat path]

https://tenor.com/view/chip-marx-kirby-kirby-star-allies-erick-frango-gif-23064611

[pliant socket]

What did I missssss

I'll add it tomorrow but still tell me

OH did you want me to include the black holes from every boss

[wise roost]

Skully Dimension portals?

[vapid kestrel]

Mass Attack deserves no acknowledgement

[rustic trellis]

damn

[fathom cradle]

Sun stones

[rustic trellis]

mass attack slander

[pliant socket]

Is it bad to say that I completely forgot about Mass Attack

Even though I 100%ed it

[rustic trellis]

what i wanna know is if sun stones are a popstar thing or universe thing

[pliant socket]

Like a year ago

[junior mesa]

if you can't spend 230+ hours in Mass Attack are you a real kirby fan?

no.

[fathom cradle]

Mass attack is extremely forgettable

[wise roost]

Also the socks from Epic Yarn, if they count. They aren’t really rifts but they functionally kind of are

[junior mesa]

no its not (there are 10 kirbies)

[thin forge]

yarn

[pliant socket]

The socks?

Ohhhh

Epic Yarn

[wise roost]

you saw nothing

[rustic trellis]

Was necrodeus just chilling on vacation in floralia and was just like ""god the suns too bright how am i supposed to sun bathe with the sun bathing on me" and simply got rid of it?

[pliant socket]

ok I will include these tomorrow if I remember

[vapid kestrel]

you’re missing the portal Aeon Hero gets sent through after his battle in SKC

[novel fog]

besides Black Holes if you count those, there's portal/rift-like thing in background of Dreamscape, ||Magolor's Epilogue Dream Kingdom 'entrance' portal (pictured)||, maybe the Another Dimension background warp hole/black hole-thingys, and the portals Star Dream shoots lasers out of
there's probably more, but that's some of them

[fathom cradle]

👼

We need the ghost emotes back smh

[rustic trellis]

Are the summoning circles sectonia uses considered portal enough?

they teleport things

portals teleport things

i see no reason for discrimination

[vapid kestrel]

Technically but that way leads to madness

[rustic trellis]

we are kirby fans

[vapid kestrel]

At that point we could ask about doors and document every single door

[junior mesa]

if the sphere doomer suction attacks count then does marx black hole count too?

[novel fog]

also should at least mention the fact ||Crowned Doomer and Master Crown uses portals|| if it isn't in there already

[rustic trellis]

bet

[thin forge]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-patrick-you-are-scaring-him-stop-patrick-stop-it-patrick-you-are-scaring-him-spongebob-patrick-gif-23995388

[novel fog]

I mean, I've thought of doing that lmao

[rustic trellis]

I mean we got star doors, orange star doors, fake doors, no star doors

[wise roost]

the devils seem to come out of rifts too

[rustic trellis]

the KIRBY THINGS FROM DL1

[novel fog]

there's all the different boss doors

[rustic trellis]

goal doors

[thin forge]

batamon

[vapid kestrel]

Should also mention the Deluxe description for grand doomer confirms that Sky Tower is also just poking into a huge dimensional rift

[pliant socket]

Noted

I'll do it tomorrow

[vapid kestrel]

MPS no

Wrong reply mps

[tawdry mulch]

Door lore FINALLY

[thin forge]

your fault-

[vapid kestrel]

Mps NO

[rustic trellis]

Yo lets all make a document on doors

[vapid kestrel]

MPS

[rustic trellis]

collaborative effort

[pliant socket]

I have always been a fan of doors.

[vapid kestrel]

COME BACK

[pliant socket]

It's too late.

[tawdry mulch]

Ive been waiting for someone to unlock the door lore

[novel fog]

what is your favorite door

[tawdry mulch]

The Renaissance of Kirby lore is upon us

[vapid kestrel]

Door to Sectonia is banger af

[lost briar]

this really is a door to doom

[vapid kestrel]

Door to Haltmann is also funky ig

[fathom cradle]

Me looking at 5 million black shapes

Ig???

The animation for the cubes is sick smh

[vapid kestrel]

I also like the castle gates you slam through at the beginning of Royal Road

[tawdry mulch]

I like the door to Forgo and Leon not cause of the door itself but the atmosphere leading into the door

[pliant socket]

I will get all of the pictures when I wake up

[fathom cradle]

this is like the ultimate shitpost video someone would make if there were actually kirbytubers

[vapid kestrel]

You know what’s a door that should be cool but is lame as shit

The door you have to gather those star things to unlock in Squeak Squad

[fathom cradle]

top 10 doors in kirby

[rustic trellis]

I was about to do a document on goal games but wikirby already has one sad

[vapid kestrel]

What the fuck was that about

[pliant socket]

kirby doors tierlist

[rustic trellis]

I gotta think of something more obscure

[tawdry mulch]

How come Hyness's arena doesn't have a special door

[fathom cradle]

star allies L

[tawdry mulch]

They even put a cool ass door in the concept art background what happened

[vapid kestrel]

In comparison though, the door in Beautiful Prison you unlock by saving all the People of the Sky is cool as shit

[rustic trellis]

TDX proving its peak once again

[pliant socket]

cannon tierlist

[tawdry mulch]

PON AND CNN HAVE A COOL DOOR

Make sure to reference Pon and Cons door opening magic. It's often overlooked

[vapid kestrel]

https://wikirby.com/wiki/Star_Seal

No seriously why was this a thing

[tawdry mulch]

Stars

[vapid kestrel]

True!!!!

[fathom cradle]

i like how they just made 3 separate renders of kirby entering a fucking door

[burnt slate]

to force you to collect treasures or backtrack

[junior mesa]

"the star seal is a five-pointed star-shaped obje...-"
and that is where i stop reading

[burnt slate]

extending playtime

[novel fog]

smh is this not a cool door

[junior mesa]

kirby's got the pose

[vapid kestrel]

It would be cooler if the camera was closer

[vapid kestrel]

My thoughts on 69% of all things in SA tbh

[burnt slate]

a door that leads to nowhere, causing kirby to fall off the platform

[pliant socket]

💤

[fathom cradle]

major L on this one sadly

[rustic trellis]

FL was the first mainline game with no goal game since DL1

this is a tragic realization

[junior mesa]

this better?

[vapid kestrel]

Like seriously they made a cutscene drawing for this fucking door why

[pliant socket]

it was so important that it got two drawings

[rustic trellis]

Smh just use bomb kirby

[tawdry mulch]

Actually that's kinda cool

[vapid kestrel]

Like I remember being so pissed about the Halcandra level recreation in SA but then I played the original level in RtDL Dx and I liked it it felt cool

[thin forge]

i love it

[vapid kestrel]

And I’m convinced it was bc the camera is more zoomed in

[pliant socket]

this door has no right to go this hard

[vapid kestrel]

EXACTLY

[fathom cradle]

after this and tdx like

[rustic trellis]

TDX doors are peak

[fathom cradle]

what were they cooking with star allies final boss door

smh smh

[vapid kestrel]

3DS games don’t be so fucking peak challenge

[rustic trellis]

Hyness could only afford a 3 star door

[junior mesa]

my thoughts exactly

[rustic trellis]

yoooo i thought light died in adventure

[fathom cradle]

💡

[vapid kestrel]

You know I literally just mentioned recently how I like ‘physically modelled sparkles’ which ig is what’s happening with this door

[pliant socket]

it was simply too cool to stay gone

[solar harbor]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

I MANAGED TO DODGE THE ||DOUBLE BLACK HOLE|| ATTACK

I'M SO HAPPYYYYY

[rustic trellis]

and the realization finally hit

that this was the rtdx spoilers chat

[pliant socket]

congrats lol

[vapid kestrel]

I’m legitimately convinced I would think a lot of things in SA would feel cooler to me if the camera was just up closer like in RtDL

But like everything just feels so distant

[solar harbor]

FUCK YOU AGAIN ||TRUE ARENA MAGOLOR SOUL||

OH MY FUCKING GOD I LEARNED SO QUICKLY IN THAT FIGHT

WHAT THE FUCK

DUDE I MANAGED TO DODGE THE ||SANDSTORM AND MECHA ATTACKS TOO||

[vapid kestrel]

Gj cyon

[rustic trellis]

i hope the unfair magolor soul mod gets remade in rtdx

[solar harbor]

God I can't believe I did it without using Sand...

[pliant socket]

so happy for you frrr

[solar harbor]

I FINALLY SCREWED OVER THE TRAUMA THAT HIT ME BADLY

COMING OUT STRONG AS FUCKING META KNIGHT EVEN WITH ITEMS

[pliant socket]

same

[rustic trellis]

grats

[pliant socket]

that would be so awesome

[junior mesa]

||yeah... TA soul is very "once you've seen him you know him" fight||
ggs though 👏

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-waddle-dee-clapping-proud-kirbo-gif-25605744

[rustic trellis]

||TA mago soul is like 60% of the way to the unfair mago soul fight... just needs more caffine||

[pliant socket]

this was truly an attack

[solar harbor]

I WAS HAPPY THAT I LEARNED HOW TO DODGE IT NOW

[fathom cradle]

what if we had ||THREE black holes||

[solar harbor]

IT'S SO GOOOOOOOOOOOOD

[burnt slate]

bc the 2nd phase is just the first one's attack rearranged in a different pattern after it does the ||super abilities||

[solar harbor]

Alright, that means no jumping

[rustic trellis]

Now you're thinking with portals

[pliant socket]

simply wavedash

[vapid kestrel]

YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE IS A BANGER DOOR

[pliant socket]

peak door?????

[fathom cradle]

metroid prime observatory

[thin forge]

BAH GAWD

[solar harbor]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J913juWctg ||
THIS REMIX ||FUCKING WORKS WITH TRUE ARENA MAGOLOR SOUL, I WAS LISTENING TO IT FOR THE ENTIRE FIGHT||

||I FELT SO GOOOOOOOOD, I TOOK REVENGE AGAINST MY TRAUMA||

[burnt slate]

idk, not a big fan of the blob used to represent grand doomer

[thin forge]

i am

[rustic trellis]

We should replace every spike in the magolor spike attacks with a black hole

it would be funny, your honor

[austere willow]

You dont like Blobs? :(

[vapid kestrel]

Rip that was always my favorite part

[rustic trellis]

also yeah light's songs slap but that came out before rtdx and isnt spoilers?

[vapid kestrel]

Nebulous blob of glowing energy vaguely shaping into a creature like form is so cool to me

[austere willow]

Why are all doomers goop that takes form

fr

[jolly valve]

||If we got a final boss Whispy Woods then when are we getting final boss Kracko?||

[thin forge]

https://tenor.com/view/regular-show-my-mom-shirt-swing-trash-talk-bye-gif-5037821

[austere willow]

Whats with the Kirby series and goop

[rustic trellis]

||It would be kracko himself. Kracko would murder any impostor with the gall to try to be a final boss||

[vapid kestrel]

They literally explode into goops of not-paint when they die to

[burnt slate]

eh, i just find the blob not cool looking

[fathom cradle]

paint theory

🖌️

[rustic trellis]

the artist made the doomers???

[solar harbor]

Yeah but I spoilered it since this is in context of ||True Arena Magolor Soul, and the remix is based on OVERLORD which is also used in the fight||

[austere willow]

WHICH MAKES THEM WEIRDER

they turn from gooply blooby into Cosmic Ash

[rustic trellis]

||I mean yeah but that was also in SA||

[vapid kestrel]

Liquid mf

[rustic trellis]

Remember you can get away with anything by saying it was in SA

[austere willow]

whats with this series and GOOP

[rustic trellis]

for legal reasons that is a joke please do not hunt me mods

[solar harbor]

Just playing it safe here lol

[fathom cradle]

paint theory

[peak dagger]

Everything is goop

[vapid kestrel]

[austere willow]

can we have a gaseous final boss next game

Love is in the air?

WRONG

CHAOS GOOPULA

[rustic trellis]

just kracko

[vapid kestrel]

Dark matter 64 if it actually fought you

[fathom cradle]

[rustic trellis]

also im sad

absorbing kracko jr. should give water >: (

[pliant socket]

peak honestly

[rustic trellis]

why are they at different speeds

[austere willow]

why did you make them out of sync

[rustic trellis]

aaaaaaaaa

this hurts my brain

[fathom cradle]

🌳 🌱

[pliant socket]

mwahaha

[vapid kestrel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/7ycu5l/kirby_the_essence_of_life_and_soul/

The batshit insane ramblings of 5 years former me

[rustic trellis]

actually theory time

marx is the artist, he accidentally bumped a paint can onto a canvas one time and continued drawing in secret ever since then to play funny pranks

[pliant socket]

I'll finish the rest of the bosses tomorrow methinks

[fathom cradle]

go back and update it with chaos elfilis smh

[rustic trellis]

such as causing family pain by seperating sisters

[austere willow]

i love that you can tell which one is new by how the lighting actually works

[fathom cradle]

also faye why did you post this in the fantheories subreddit

[pliant socket]

fair

[lost briar]

oh huh the crystal things turn on and off like a rave party or whatever

also i'll be honest i never even looked at what the animation for the dooter stage door opening looks like

[lost briar]

i was too distracted by the low poly-ness of the light fixtures

[pliant socket]

same lmao

i was in disbelief that they kept the model the exact same

[lost briar]

which... looks to be the exact same model in between the two games

like i was expecting maybe a small upgrade but it looks like literally the exact same model and textures

[peak dagger]

I guess since it's such a short animation, it was low priority

Most people aren't watching it this closely

[lost briar]

it was the only thing i could notice lol

[junior mesa]

i was about to ask why 2 gifs per until my stupid brain realized that the game was remade

[pliant socket]

yeah lol

oh wait one's slower

this should be better methinks

oh nope og's still slower

[faint glen]

Cant believe they made the top flatter

Literally unplayable

[pliant socket]

here's level 7

ok gn

[lofty condor]

Goodnight!

Sleep tight

Don’t let the Bugzzys bite

[rustic trellis]

me trying to sleep in bed knowing fully well Team Bugzzy-64 is behind me

[vapid kestrel]

Uh I have no fucking idea tbh

I did also post it to r/Kirby but that was like an earlier draft

[vapid kestrel]

Lowkey feel like this one looks better in the original

[pliant socket]

Fair fair, I like both equally for their own reasons

The og's lava explosion looks cool, and the remake's actual lava also looks cool

[vapid kestrel]

The lightning looks better but they turned the explosion into only smoke and no flame

[austere willow]

,... now that i realize it

||Master Crown's leaf attack reminds me of Elfilis's psychic spear projectiles||

That and ||the way it crashes down to the arena is very similar to the gigantic meteor that he shoots||

[pliant socket]

OH I SEE IT NOW

ughhhh

That's gonna haunt me forever

[vapid kestrel]

Personally I felt ||the leaf attack resembled his Splash Roche||

||well he shoots them in various ways but the one that falls down in 2D||

[austere willow]

it does when it starts ||raining down|| afterwards

[austere willow]

So like

what was their thought process on this one

"lets make landia bounce around"

like what

?????????

JUST SLAM THEM INTO THE WALS

the fact that Clash later references the animation too

[vapid kestrel]

Me when I feel like the closest things tbe crown’s wings resemble to me is elfilis’s ears

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1077968255232254092/1084681647875698758/image0.jpg

Tbe way they come out of the side at the top of the creature instead of the back here

[solar harbor]

OH YEAH it really does

[vocal latch]

SpongeBob fans say skin theory
Kirby fans say paint theory

[austere willow]

in any case

day I Lost Count of listening to Magolor Epilogue Credits

[idle sapphire]

Definitely my first thought seeing Magolor again after Forgotten Land.

[austere willow]

looking at the crown and remembering KSA its so funny that Kumzaki's contributions to the series lore range from Religion, Technology, and Dream Fork

[junior mesa]

smh cuts off most of lvl 7's intro

[thin forge]

tdx: kirby vs the monarchy
pr: kirby vs capitalism
sa: kirby vs religion
fl: kirby vs the furry fandom

[austere willow]

tdx isnt vs nature its vs Authoritarian Monarchy smh smh

[thin forge]

fine

[austere willow]

KSDJDSSDKDKJS

[junior mesa]

prb = vs capitalism

[austere willow]

Kirby's lowkey punk as fuck

[thin forge]

are yall happy now

[austere willow]

love him

[junior mesa]

fl = vs. beast virus (real)

[thin forge]

what

[junior mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-plan-patrick-star-scheming-gif-4998016

[peak dagger]

Pre FL was a fun time

[austere willow]

you are all insane

[junior mesa]

i was an avid beast virus believer

pre-launch

[austere willow]

i like how the weird shapes in AD didn't actually end up beign anything other than AD weirdness

[craggy sable]

[Magolor Epilogue Credits]
||One of the planets in the background is the freaking ball Lemmy Koopa uses. It's yellow with orange stars||

[austere willow]

mario fan spotted

[heady relic]

Meta Knight True Arena 12:04
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4_MrAf5oYc||

[vapid kestrel]

Is this faster than ddd i forgor his time

[junior mesa]

meta knightmare w

[austere willow]

WAIT U CAN ROTATE THE PODIUM WHEN U WIN????????

[heady relic]

the player's personal best (segments combined) surpasses dedede

[vapid kestrel]

Wait hes taking damage on purpose to get inside the boss and do galactic counter off their contact hitbox????

[craggy sable]

I'm not joking look

[vapid kestrel]

Didn’t galactic counter not work in sa if you were invincible from taking damage

Or is that still the case here and im just overestimating how long you stay invincible after damage

[junior mesa]

y'know what that actually is?

crossover fight confirmed

[thin forge]

kirby solos

[junior mesa]

we'll finally know the answer

[craggy sable]

Holy fuck

The 7th one

[junior mesa]

(if kirby has no cool artifact i think he loses tbh)

[craggy sable]

(Admittedly Kirby was only able to finish off the cool deities of doom with the gimmick of the day)

[austere willow]

fool

the artifact he will get is Goku himself

[vapid kestrel]

Did they misinput a dash attack at the start of Goriath

[heady relic]

it's misinput

[craggy sable]

Ultra Sword, Hypernova, Robobot, CAR

All integral into the defeat of monsters

[heady relic]

I don't quite remember the mechanics but from what I remember it just works during your own i-frames?

[thin forge]

why does everybody forget the star allies sparkler

[craggy sable]

I didn't list it

No reason

But yeah no Kirby needed an extra something if he's gonna make sure the monster of the day doesn't get back up

[solar harbor]

||THE LEMMY BALL PLANET||

[austere willow]

wait so taking damage -> Galactic Counter is a strat???? im guessing against a boss who's doing a grab-type attack against you

but otherwise wouldnt it hurt you more than just regularly "guarding" with Galactic Counter

[heady relic]

this is used during the beginning

[austere willow]

huh

[heady relic]

in RtDL bosses are invincible when loading their HP/shifting phases so if you want to hit them with Galactic Counter as fast as possible at the beginning you need to take damage

[austere willow]

Ahh

[heady relic]

in SA if your other attacks do more damage you can just spam whatever you like when their HP is loading

some explanation about mid-boss corpse
moves have different power vs their corpse
for Shuttle Loop, it has 2 hitboxes
the 1st hitbox (rising) does little damage to corpse
the 2nd hitbox (loop) is not affected by corpse

that's how you see the corpses are dealt with in the video

[ocean mauve]

it's not an innacurate descriptor but damn that sounds gruesome lol

[heady relic]

iirc the value is called PowerD?

PowerDead?

[vocal latch]

I wish Magoland was like a genuine hub with a theater and shit, we'd have the CROWNED movie becoming real

Still a banger tho

[heady relic]

also about how Metal General displays the damage

[solar harbor]

Oh man I can't wait to watch a movie about my life story where I betray my friends and ||scam your mom's credit card in another universe||

[heady relic]

for some reason it takes PowerD in calculation

resulting in funny numbers that don't match actual damage

[vapid kestrel]

Ah so that’s why people were saying Metal General’s damage display was weird now lmao

[heady relic]

I don't want to test it myself because it takes too much time just for that specific battle
but do Galacta Knight's lightnings get bigger hitboxes now?

[austere willow]

c

Corpse

[vapid kestrel]

Ooh that was something I also wanted to ask and forgot to lol

[austere willow]

Oh so thats why souvenir crackler does 60 damage against Metal General

[vapid kestrel]

Unfortunately don’t have my switch with me rn so I can’t test

[austere willow]

but 60 damage means like nothing to the actual healthbar

[vapid kestrel]

You can’t dodge his side by side lightning by going in between in SKC right

[heady relic]

I don't remember

footage in question
https://twitter.com/iSword_soup/status/1634867754800136193

味槍汁 (@iSword_soup)

安直オミットされた？ #星のカービィWiiデラックス #NintendoSwitch

▶ Play video

Twitter · Mar 12, 2023, 10:43 AM

[leaden terrace]

Me and the boys pulling up to watch the Crowned movie

https://tenor.com/view/bangtan-bangtanboys-gif-5045451

[austere willow]

probably tbh yeah

bigger htiboxes

[heady relic]

visually the ground hitboxes are bigger so I think so

[austere willow]

Galacta Buff

[vapid kestrel]

Lowkey dont the lightning beams look

Closer together in general?

[austere willow]

personally it feels like the arena's way smaller but thats just my brains thoughts without checking

[vapid kestrel]

Oop

[austere willow]

SORRY

SDKASDJSDKJJKSD

[vapid kestrel]

Lol nw

[ocean mauve]

galacta looks like he's about to hit the fattest whip known to man

[austere willow]

thats not even a whip anymore thats just a fucking Barbar

[vapid kestrel]

Well anyway I think it might just be the outlines giving me the illusion that the space is tighter

But yea guess they fixed the hitbox here despite reusing a bunch of other rtdl gk properties that were updated in later games

[austere willow]

i still think that the arena somehow feels smaller or either that or Galacta's sort of bigger

[vapid kestrel]

Maybe its bc the sun in the bg is slightly closer in deluxe?

[austere willow]

Oh that

i never noticed that

LOL

[vapid kestrel]

No actually hmm gk does look slightly bigger

[austere willow]

maybe both

[vapid kestrel]

Anyway lowkey I’m so happy to see like
A regular GK fight on switch
Like Aeon Hero is
A thing but of course he’s gigantic in that game and has exaggerated proportions

Plus kirby is locked to the four roles

And also locked to a team of four

[austere willow]

lmao

Took us this long for a GK fight agian

[vapid kestrel]

Lowkey he looks sooo fucking good with outlines

[leaden terrace]

exaggerated proportions?

i mean i guess the wings are more emphasized lol

[vapid kestrel]

Aeon hero has bigger shoes and shoulderguards and horns too

But yea biggest thing is his huge wings

[leaden terrace]

ahhhh

i see

[lost briar]

what's up with his deluxe feet

[vapid kestrel]

Wdym

[leaden terrace]

got longer and pointier i guess

[vapid kestrel]

Huh ig his feet look a lot longer in deluxe

[leaden terrace]

only looks that way if he bends them dont they

[lost briar]

he's got those bends

[leaden terrace]

mk's and gk's legs have a very weird way of bending

[austere willow]

i feel like its because we dont think of them as able to bend

but thats the whole reason half of the shoe isnt there

so they could bend their foot

[vapid kestrel]

Man I havent actually looked at GK’s model at all for dx

[lost briar]

oh yeah they also changed the way he holds his shield into something that actually makes sense

[vapid kestrel]

I dont have my laptop with me rn atm unfortunately

[austere willow]

LMAO

[ocean mauve]

i never saw him doing that in the original lmao wtf

[leaden terrace]

how does that happen

[lost briar]

me when I clip my shield into my body

[leaden terrace]

"yeah lemme hold my shield downwards very convenient"

[lost briar]

I wonder if it was changed in Robobot

[austere willow]

it probably was

considering that htey made him float again

[lost briar]

that would probably be where they fixed it

[vapid kestrel]

NOPE LMAO

[leaden terrace]

how tho

[vapid kestrel]

It was fixed for SKC

[leaden terrace]

like

that must be so uncomfortable

having all the weight below ur hand

[vapid kestrel]

Looks like they just kept his pointier feet from aeon hero for dx

[lost briar]

incredible

[leaden terrace]

i mean makes sense this is basically just an updated model. good change tho

i like it

always like it when things are pointier and sharper

[vapid kestrel]

I mean its good
Besides the comically large wings aeon hero’s bigger features more resemble his original ssu design

[leaden terrace]

if only they bring back the ridge on the mask or whatever they call it lol

the one thing that keeps the design together in full harmony..

[vapid kestrel]

Huge fucking lance

[leaden terrace]

ohhh my gaw

[vapid kestrel]

But yea his shoulder-pads were gigantic

God the SSU model for GK is the one SSU model I want to see most

[ocean mauve]

ok im late but i watched the mk vid and how on earth do you spam shuttle loop consecutively like that

[leaden terrace]

oh those horns are WEIRD

like, right above his eyes

almost like brows

[vapid kestrel]

Its actually insane how well they translated the silhouette of the knight sprites into 3d and then
Just absolutely failed at that in rtdl

[vapid kestrel]

Ive said this before but ssu gk design always gave me the impression of a japanese oni mask

[leaden terrace]

why is it so different? the rest are pretty on-model. is gk developed that late in the game? but i guess i cant excuse marx soul looking different either...

that one looks extra squishy

[leaden terrace]

yeah i honestly wanted to say something like that

yknow as much as i love gk's model, i dont think theyve ever fully captured the pure badassery of the sprites

[vapid kestrel]

Oh lmao

[leaden terrace]

lmfao

prob cus of the way its sprites were done i guess? the roundness isnt there (in fact especially the mask looks angular) and its tinted by a purple-blue ambiance that simply makes it way cooler

[vapid kestrel]

I still think SSU model is like the most intimidating model he has

[leaden terrace]

• the eyes too

WHY didnt they bring back his eyes when they still have magolor eyes going \ /

[vapid kestrel]

Yea its interesting he kinda has like round eyes in the sprite and model for ssu

[leaden terrace]

bet theyre saving it for smth important idk. just so weird

[leaden terrace]

in the artwork too

[lost briar]

his shield is funny too

[leaden terrace]

his shield didnt have an extra golden star so it looks a lil weird

[vapid kestrel]

I think the eyes look oval like mk’s in the art

Oh yea the shield’s model sucks ass in SSU though lmao

It looks like a bottle cap

[leaden terrace]

i still assume he's developed late in the game so theres like not enough communication i guess

why his design is so inconsistent

and they probably figured "oh these red eyes arent really meant to be there"

(which if thats the case, theyre WRONG and need to put them back)

[vapid kestrel]

Yea I dunno why they changed his eyes to pink its lame

[leaden terrace]

they had the chance to do it for aeon hero light but didnt lol

[vapid kestrel]

OH RIGHT

Another thing about how I’m saying the SSU model ‘captures the silhouette of the knight sprites’ which future models fail to do

Is Kuma’s SA meta knight concept art

It also has that

Like, pointiness

Of the sprites

Lemme go dig it ip

[leaden terrace]

you know now im curious what would gk's concept art look like. i wonder if theyre hastily drawn with consistently inconsistent traits lol

like they couldnt decide just what looks best

[vapid kestrel]

HERE

THIS JUST

[leaden terrace]

dude why is his art so unnecessarily cool

[vapid kestrel]

has this Edge to it that the modern models don’t have compared to the older sprites imo

[leaden terrace]

like he constantly has that griminess in his sketches like does he just happen to have very old or worn paper

or was it filtered

DUDE HE FUCKING DREW THE SHOES LIKE

WHATTTTTTTTTTTT

[vapid kestrel]

I KNOW ITS LIKE IN AN ANIME WHEN SOMEONE POWERFUL TAKES A STEP IN METAL BOOTS AND YOU JUST PISS YOURSELF

[leaden terrace]

THAT THING MUST BE SO LOUD WHEN HE STEPS IN AGH

now i want that

[vapid kestrel]

The way he sketches MK with the giant shoulderpads just reminds me of sprites so much

[leaden terrace]

duuuuude my god

LOOK AT KIRBY

HE LOOKS SO UPSET

[vapid kestrel]

This would be me if MK looked like this and came at me from both sides

It greatly upsets me how peak this art is and like. The actual fight in SA is so fucking mid visually

[leaden terrace]

ugh fuck it just make kumazaki the art director

see how that goes

[vapid kestrel]

Lollll

THOUGH

[leaden terrace]

imagine if the eventual kirby rpg looks like this.

they KNOW they could go crazy with this so imagine.

[peak dagger]

Let's just get him to draw his own Kirby manga

[vapid kestrel]

WHEN YOU FOUGHT HIM IN FL

AND HE STARTED FLYING

THE FIRST THING I THOUGHT OF WAS THIS CONCEPT ART