[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

[fleet osprey]

RtDX's release already got me emotional a day before it came out

[vocal latch]

Again, normal Halberd for MK
Dunno how Phase 4 transition would work for Soul OS lol

[pliant socket]

Imagine if archer and poison challenge stages.....

[vast vapor]

no I will not imagine archer and poison challenge stages and you can’t make me

mirror challenge stage though…

[pliant socket]

Robobot Challenge Stage ‼️

[vast vapor]

based

[pliant socket]

I literally dreamed of one when we originally expected a 3 in one pack

[fleet osprey]

doctor challenge stage

so everyone knows how to use the ability to its full potential

one remake completely removes the Doctor ability hate

[pliant socket]

"Your reward for collecting all of the code cubes is a Robobot Armor challenge stage! Everything you learned will be put to the test here, so give it your all!"

[fleet osprey]

merry haltland

[pliant socket]

New Challenge Stages + when....please I need my platinum medal FIX

[fleet osprey]

Star Dream has come to play in Access Ark!

[vast vapor]

if tdx and robobot are remastered together in a double pack I will scream so loud

[vocal latch]

I still like to think the last EX Stage in Robobot represents Kirby retrieving the Robobot Armor from space

[fleet osprey]

holy shit I've never realized that

Queen Sectonia (Flower) has come to play in Merry Magoland!

merry magoland may make a return in tdx as a cameo because of Drum Dash lmao

[vocal latch]

||Master Crown & Flowered Sectonia/Soul of Sectonia would be besties||

[vocal latch]

MANAGER MAGOLOR RETCONNED INTO DRUM DASH 👏

[vast vapor]

taranza: so where is she
magolor: trolled

[pliant socket]

God I loved the aesthetic of drum dash

Magolor theme parks try not to go hard challenge

[vocal latch]

ikr

Wait wtf Magolor Race EX in Dream Collection is called "VS. Magolor EX" in JP

So that's why they counted it as another appearance of Magolor EX in the Encyclopedia LOL

[fleet osprey]

live taranza reaction

[vocal latch]

You know, one thing a bit related to Epilogue that has always made me a bit curious, I wonder why Magolor's magic runes are seen in Another Dimension in HiAD lol

Could it be some remnant of him losing his powers there?

[fleet osprey]

I have a theory for that

the ancients (or halcandra people) have their remainings in Another Dimension as we can see in the epilogue environments

Magolor's appearance is also linked to it

notice the random cogs all over the place

or fans that look like Magolor's ears

||bunch of runes on Fiery Puffer's body||

||Egg Engines in Master Crown bg||

so yeah I think that all of the "magolor motifs" we see throughout the series are shared by the ancients, which are also implied to have their remainings in AD

[idle sapphire]

Maybe I’m just gaslighting my self but didn’t Kumazaki say that Magolor ||in Kirby clash was the same as the Mainline Magolor|| in an interview once?

[celest grove]

he did, yes

[vocal latch]

||https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N0vojPjx77SefG1MDfdRKFG2BzBMuDXZWDNFFAp-FUo/||

[celest grove]

Magolor was indeed in an interview

[idle sapphire]

It did not clear things up

[vast vapor]

they gave up trying to comprehend it

[vocal latch]

lmfao

[junior fiber]

i tried this too

[lost briar]

eclectic booter

[junior fiber]

they should've called him Electricooter 😔

[tawdry mulch]

i always thought it was cause his magic is sourced from the ancients practices with AD

[tawdry mulch]

i think revealing this here was one of the worst decisions he's ever made lmfao like not only is it out of game info but it left infinite questions

and not the good kind of questions

like "is this a thing that actually matters to main series" kind of questions

[ruby plaza]

They made Magolor's Epilogue to justify microtransactions

[vast vapor]

I just noticed

[tawdry mulch]

forgot the hat lightbulb

[vast vapor]

his hat is a

yeah that

[vocal latch]

||I wanted to point Magolor/Lor/Ancients stuff only lol||

[junior fiber]

the most ancient creation of all time

💡

[tawdry mulch]

||ok but thomas edison made the lightbulb and new world is earth so that means its an invention of the ancients||

[fleet prism]

Thomas Edison was one of the ancients real

I wonder what does the lor language say

[ruby plaza]

All the Magolor Epilogue bosses got gears

[tawdry mulch]

its so true and real

[ruby plaza]

Except the final boss

[tawdry mulch]

gear lore

im sure its just a coincidence

[junior fiber]

i bet its a bad joke

[fleet prism]

Hopefully something in the lines of "fat fuck fatty fucker"

[ruby narwhal]

When the mages also have have robes that can magically go from white to black

[ruby plaza]

Also love how Magolor got bored of all of the ||Rampaging Doomers|| flying around

[tawdry mulch]

inb4 is Jambandran or something

[vocal latch]

||I skipped Rampaging Doomers fuck them||

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-epilogue-kirby-return-to-dreamland-adventure-wii-magolor-gif-27552773

[tawdry mulch]

hater

[junior fiber]

your pc has viruses

[vocal latch]

Why do they look like that tho

Like when do we get th elore

[junior fiber]

never....

[dreamy canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-epilogue-magolor-epilogue-kirby-adventure-wii-gif-27555129

[floral mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-epilogue-hydroath-happy-valentines-day-valentines-day-dooter-gif-27558136

[dreamy canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-epilogue-magolor-epilogue-kirby-adventure-wii-gif-27555131

[junior fiber]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1069427390394142732/1077332359139033168/image0.gif

[sand frigate]

most sane gifs

[dreamy canyon]

||https://tenor.com/view/magolor-epilogue-magolor-epilogue-kirby-adventure-wii-gif-27554959||

woo,p
why cant spoilering the thing just spoil the picture of the gif

[sand frigate]

add a space between the || and the gif link maybe

|| https://tenor.com/view/magolor-epilogue-magolor-epilogue-kirby-adventure-wii-gif-27554959 ||

ye

[faint galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-epilogue-magolor-epilogue-kirby-adventure-wii-gif-27554962

[vast vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-reddit-you-are-going-to-reddit-gif-27545099

[sand frigate]

can i say tho

these designs for the bosses are insanely good

[faint galleon]

So true

[sand frigate]

by far the best boss variants in the series we've seen

[faint galleon]

||Eletricky Dooter|| is peak

[sand frigate]

||hydriath|| is my favorite

love that fool

[junior fiber]

||eletricky dooter|| sweeps

[vast vapor]

||electricky dooter|| based

I’m glad we all agree

[dreamy canyon]

||rampaging doomer|| sweeps ||electricky doomer||

[leaden terrace]

||"hello everyone I have a very important announcement, fuck taranza ok thank you"||

[fleet prism]

I don't know in what context did those guys get associated with viruses but

[lofty condor]

Agreed

Shoutout to ||Electricky||

[ocean mauve]

mfw ||eletricky's hat has that wide ass brim so when it does the float around shocking attack you can hide in the corner and it can't reach you||

[lost briar]

||should have gone for the yankee with no brim||

[junior fiber]

he would've been unstoppable with no brim

[molten vapor]

||dooter with no brim||

[junior fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-epilogue-magolor-epilogue-kirby-adventure-wii-gif-27554404

[stark gulch]

||Aerogree Dimension
Pyred Dimension
Poseiblu Dimension
Locandra Dimension
Ethereal Alter

Apple holy shit||

[molten vapor]

||bites into apple and loses tooth||

[slender compass]

I want potato chips

I will take a bite into a potato chip

and eat it

[simple dew]

Took longer than it should've
And it wasn't recorded
But God damnmit I did it

I did the thing.

[ocean mauve]

ayy leggo

[main fractal]

The 5 main rtdl characters

[simple dew]

Waddle dee, waddle dee, Kirby, waddle dee, and waddle dee

[thin prairie]

THATS PARK STAFF WADDLE DEE

YOU FOOL

YOU UTTER BUFOON

YOU IDIOT

OTHER SYNONYMS

[pliant socket]

Swag

[lost briar]

i have successfully ripped a sfx

[thin prairie]

MIKE!!!!!!!!!!!

I LOVE OLD MIKE SOUND

[main fractal]

Dedede makes the same noise when you kill him

[thin prairie]

yeah but its more commonly used for mike

[main fractal]

Erm what the chesto

[thin prairie]

chesto is so cool but i prefer this one

[finite pecan]

(ex mode is still under this thread, right?)
item roulette gave me hi jump and i couldn't stop laughing for the entire fight

[ocean mauve]

ex mode can be posted in the other but this one is fine too

also wow that ability goes crazy

on goriath anyway

that dude loves to camp on walls lol

[thin prairie]

GORIATH SUCKS

I HATE HIM

[floral mantle]

you know, you can press X for a quicker access

or is it slower?

[finite pecan]

oh that's neat

[floral mantle]

Basically, you press X for souvenier selection, then press X to use it

[lost briar]

oh hey i found the sfx for the magolor epilogue ending

[thorny shard]

talking about ex mode world 4

look guys im so smart

most intelligent kirby player

how many falls from the crackler are out there-

[rustic trellis]

At least 1

[ocean mauve]

what the hell is that

[thorny shard]

So, i almost fell with the key, and i got to save myself!........... (realization)

[lost briar]

i am realizing i should have uploaded in one message

[rustic trellis]

I think the worst way ive died is jumping off a ledge and accidentally hitting inhale, sucking something up, and then being unable to float

[rustic trellis]

Just eat the door

[vapid kestrel]

I am so fucking done
||First Puffer EX has a fucking sun halo crown thing and now poseidon has like a Crown of Poseidon looking thing||
||I think it's funky when like
There's a design that could like
Look like an important thing in a video game but it just isn't bc its on like a regular boss||

||Like lowkey that crown of poseidon with glowing runes on it looks raw af||

[lost briar]

i found the Last Chance jingle from Tome Trackers

[proper spindle]

So uh

Just beat the true arena

Wow

[solar harbor]

[fair oriole]

||THE CROWN HAS 2 PAUSE SCREENS???||

[novel fog]

||why wouldn't it lol, it has two fights (the normal one and the sword clash)||

[fair oriole]

||You can pause in the sword scene?||

[vapid kestrel]

Every close contest has had a pause description since the Star Dream screw section

Well I mean
I guess the Magolor v Ultra Sword one still doesn't have one in DX

[leaden terrace]

I mean does it rly count?

||It takes place in the same fight as the first phase and there's no special cutscene||

[novel fog]

yeah
for either the playable character/ability, the boss, or both iirc

[jagged dirge]

What do I have to do to get 100% Story completion?

I'm at 91%, I already got all energy spheres

[ocean mauve]

challenge stages

[jagged dirge]

Ah, that would make sense

[ocean mauve]

all you need is a bronze score (which just means doing the stage)

no need for a platinum or gold so dw about grinding

[jagged dirge]

Gotcha, thanks

[ocean mauve]

np! good luck

[jagged dirge]

Accidentally got a gold first try on High Jump anyways lol

[obtuse vessel]

So is there a secret boss in the true arena?

[ocean mauve]

||yes and no - magolor soul gets a new phase, and the first phase of soul is changed up a little too||

[obtuse vessel]

I don’t know I feel like I saw somewhere that there’s some part in the game where you go to ||the port town from Kirby clash||

[jagged dirge]

How do you get platinum on a stage?

[ocean mauve]

||that's in the credits of the epilogue, showing what happened to magolor after you finish the epilogue's boss fight||

[ocean mauve]

grab all coins (which therefore means finding all secrets), kill all enemies, don't get hit, finish pretty quickly

[jagged dirge]

Gotcha, did all of that instead of the quickly part

[fathom cradle]

at minimum you have to be above 30 seconds

but some will require you to do better than merely above 30

[jagged dirge]

I was at 11 lol

[covert jasper]

I am here to complain about another portuguese music title

I WAS SO CONFUSED ABOUT THIS TITLE BEING JUST THE PORTUGUESE NAME OF ||ANOTHER DIMENSION|| BUT IT TURNS OUT IT'S A MISTRANSLATION. THEY SHOULD HAD CALLED IT AT LEAST ||DOMINAÇÃO PARALELA||

[solar harbor]

???????????????????

How on earth did they mess this up so badly

[covert jasper]

good question

tfw portuguese has two tracks called the same thing

[ocean mauve]

tell them to hire you. Their portuguese translator is slacking - you gotta fix their mistakes!

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-gauntlet-ill-do-it-myself-marvel-villain-gif-16087834

walking up to hal labs like

[covert jasper]

https://fxtwitter.com/gigi9715/status/1632393420516872194

for full context

these are edited screenshots

and

I originally was doing a fan translation of RtDL anyway

then deluxe got announced and it had a portuguese translation

so like

my plan is to also basically port my fan translation to deluxe and fix stuff that is new

so yeah lol

but hire me nintendo

[ocean mauve]

oh wow i was just memeing about the whole "make your own translation" idea since i know it's a hefty task but i didn't realize you actually did this stuff. that's awesome

[covert jasper]

LOL yeah I figured

I've been also half tempted to like, retranslated PR and SA in english but that is a much harder task

[ocean mauve]

do the original portuguese names of the worlds spell out a word like the english ones do? and how does your translation differ in this regard

ahh yeah that makes sense. FL especially has a ton of dialogue and descriptions

[covert jasper]

have this lol you will understand my pain #1077968255232254092 message

[thin prairie]

Gigi#6763 - #[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

so this is not spoilers but they made CROWNED CORAGEM which is "courage" and it annoys me to no end because crowned in portuguese is coroado which is 7 letters and GUESS WHAT both start with COR so I THOUGHT IT WOULD COROADO BUT WHEN I UNLOCKED WORLD 4 I WAS ????????????????????????

ultimately "coragem" means nothing and they even kept the name of the battle theme as "C-R-O-W-N-E-D" SO LIKE WHAT'S THE POINT

ON TOP OF THAT (now actually spoilers) ||they made Crowned Doomer basically "royal doomer" and I am SO MAD ABOUT IT BECAUSE WHEN I FIRST SAW ITS NAME I DIDN'T CONNECT THE DOTS OF THE CROWN AND I HAD TO ASK WHAT THE ENGLISH NAME WAS AND WHEN I SAW IT WAS CROWNED DOOMER I WAS SO MAD LIKE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH||

Quoted by Gigi#6763 • [241151177197092866] · Mar 4, 2023, 12:53 AM

[covert jasper]

also includes my least favorite thing of the translation which is magolor epilogue spoilers

:(

the translation isn't bad btw

but it has some stuff that makes me go

[ocean mauve]

OHHH that's disappointing. yeah that's weird they missed the obvious choice and opted for a completely unrelated word. and missing the specific detail about ||the doomer|| kinda blows since that specific word is key to understanding what it means

[fathom cradle]

Brazil Portuguese localizers when they're allergic to the word coroado

[lost briar]

huh

so Locandra is just

dark colored

[covert jasper]

dark is my favorite color

• dark meta knight probably

[covert jasper]

I have the weird theory that they originally planned it to be COROADO but it was almost impossible to find a name with O for world 4 and they gave up and choose another random word last minute. I cannot find another explanation for that

it was such a big plot twist to unlock world 4 and not see a world with O

since it had been COR

[maiden crane]

world 4 is white wafers right

[covert jasper]

yes

here is my reaction to seeing world 4's portuguese name lol

[maiden crane]

wait whats the name for white wafers there then

[covert jasper]

Alpes Açúcar (sugar alps)

it's an adorable name

but

that meant they couldn't spell coroado (crowned) anymore lol

[maiden crane]

oples ocucar idfk i have no idea about this language

[lost briar]

i kept on reading this as de moopening and i was wondering what the hell was a moopening and then i realized it was saying demo opening

[covert jasper]

lol

[novel fog]

yeah, it is sort of separate from the first three in various ways in general

[lost briar]

yeah it obviously stands out

i just sorta expected them to call it purple

[maiden crane]

what adjectives in brazilian start with an O and work for a snow world

[ocean mauve]

gigi went with this (top left)

[fathom cradle]

Best stage for farming is ||trickery 6||

[ocean mauve]

idk what it means though lol i do not speak portuguese sadly

[hoary canyon]

Whats the best place to ||farm those little tear drop looking thingies in mago epilouge||

[ocean mauve]

wtf how did king answer it before you asked

oh nvm they asked in another chat

[fathom cradle]

Redirected lol

But you get 1600 magic points from one run

[hoary canyon]

Oh wait thanks time traveller

[ocean mauve]

yeah i spammed that one lol

[fathom cradle]

It takes about a min and is very easy

[jagged dirge]

I have the same question here, but also ask if it's necessary to even do so, or will I get enough from a casual play through of the whole thing?

[ocean mauve]

pro tip when farming that stage: ||use the flame circle up b for the one you're meant to use needles on||

[ocean mauve]

you'll probably be fine tbh

[fathom cradle]

It's not required for 100% or additional unlocks

For jukebox, anyways

[hoary canyon]

If you casually play, then youll have enough for the basics but not the ||extras unlocked pre-final boss||

[jagged dirge]

Yeah but I want the little dude to be fully upgraded

[novel fog]

so how are the pause descriptions in Portuguese btw
did they mess any of them up there lol

[fathom cradle]

If you upgrade everything to max ||a notification pops up and magolor gets a new pause screen description||

[jagged dirge]

Just for myself, idc what the game says lol

[fathom cradle]

Well then yeah go for it

[ocean mauve]

you get a ton of points from ||a "postgame" stage you unlock after the final boss so maybe wait until then if you don't want the points to go to waste||

[covert jasper]

I don't want to derail, but when I was doing my fan translation of RtDL I had a lot of trouble with it. there are really no good words with O for a snow world. I ended up using "orvalho" (dew) because that was the closest I could get to a noun related to cold or something with O lol

[fathom cradle]

||poseiblu has both water and ice elements to it so||

[covert jasper]

tbh english has "nutty noon" and "dangerous dinner" so like

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ocean mauve]

ok yeah wtf does nutty mean really

[fathom cradle]

Works about as well as you can get

[covert jasper]

I prefer some weird names to spell something that matters personally

[fathom cradle]

Wtf they named a kirby world after a secret r/kirby channel

[ocean mauve]

:real:

[thin prairie]

Ive done it, I got true 100%

[covert jasper]

nice!

[novel fog]

in JP version it's 'Nuts'
so basically like that lol

[ocean mauve]

that sounds nuts

[novel fog]

definition of 'nutty' is 'abounding in or producing nuts' and 'nutlike, especially in flavor'

[ocean mauve]

there's no acorns or cashews or anything in the stage i just don't get why the ywent with that lol

[fathom cradle]

Bc they really needed something for the acronym

[novel fog]

just the food theming

[hoary canyon]

You mean the one with the ||two pink buttons? Tried using it dead in the middle but it didnt work fully||

[ocean mauve]

real

[fathom cradle]

[novel fog]

don't see any raisins in Raisin Ruins either

or any Egg/Eggers in Egg Engines/Egger Engines

[ocean mauve]

it's like the one ||before the dash and there's a blue button at the bottom. you can hit the blue one with the flame circle up b if you go directly below it||

ok fair

i guess there are cookies in cookie country

those giant things in the background

[fathom cradle]

They've been doing this since adventure

[ocean mauve]

hope there's no onions in onion ocean though that could not be pleasant

yeah lol it's kinda funky

[covert jasper]

oh I mostly mentioned nutty noon because "noon" is weird lol, since it looks like it happens during sunset and not noon

[fathom cradle]

Where's the yogurt in yogurt yard

[thin prairie]

My when I can’t find the cookie country on my globe
Wait popstar is a different planet/star… me when I cant find the cookie country on my constellation chart

[covert jasper]

but I bet kumazaki couldn't find much when he googled "nouns that start with N in english" to make the world name

[ocean mauve]

i want a kirby game that actually does theme the worlds around the food they're named after

[fathom cradle]

Nuts

[novel fog]

I mean it starts at noon right (and is time of day themed in general)

[ocean mauve]

nutty nightfall

[novel fog]

I mean noon used to mean midnight lol

[ocean mauve]

oh that's weird

[obtuse vessel]

So what’s required for a 100% save file

[ocean mauve]

when you think about it, noon as we know it today can't be further away from midnight than it is now

[thin prairie]

Anyone else think nutty noon looks a lot like the sacred square from star allies?

I mean they are in the same or at least similar locations

[novel fog]

well I think it was actually used for both
but of course no one uses it for midnight anymore

[ocean mauve]

trying to remember what the sacred square is:

[ocean mauve]

ahh interesting

[covert jasper]

100% in story and extra, beat arena and true arena, beat all stages of magolor epilogue including ||the extra one||, 100 magoland missions

[fathom cradle]

Wikirby has a comprehensive list on their 100% completion page

[vocal latch]

[covert jasper]

but yeah wikirby is also cool

[obtuse vessel]

Ok

[fathom cradle]

Gigi has a comprehensive list on discord

[covert jasper]

who

[thorny shard]

fun fact
in spanish they did at least try and spell something related to crowned

[novel fog]

okay true (but I've never seen him there outside Helper Magolor either lol)

[ocean mauve]

i like wikirby because i don't have to feel awkward asking people for advice on a game everyone finished a year ago, i can just look at wikirby to find out why deep sleep isn't giving me the health bonus

[ocean mauve]

thank you

it does look similar now that you mention it

[novel fog]

more like Sacred Circle smh

[covert jasper]

sacred square is where MK studied kirby lore

[thorny shard]

in spanish it spells 'Corona' if you don't count the last world name

[fathom cradle]

Bothered me that the Star allies levels didn't line up with the rtdl theming

[thorny shard]

Corona is Crown in spanish

[covert jasper]

yeah I know

[thin prairie]

Yea I think sacred square is just an older part of nutty noon, or like its center point

[novel fog]

I mean, Pop Star has different areas in like every game lol

[fathom cradle]

Yeah but it would have been a cool reference

[ocean mauve]

pop star just constantly shapeshifts apparently

[fathom cradle]

Bc they had pretty similar themes already anyways

Just minus a desert world

And with nature navel instead

[thorny shard]

or maybe

everytime kirby goes onto the map hes watching it on a different angle

[thin prairie]

Popstar is like hyrule in zelda
The tectonic plates are shifted around every game like lego bricks

[covert jasper]

~~do we know what the north of popstar is what if it's just rotated every time ~~

[fathom cradle]

Spin the planet

[novel fog]

I will turn Pop Star into a spinning top

[maiden swan]

Do you think Pop Star rotates like Earth does

[thin prairie]

Canonical reason why popstars geography always changes its because
Kirby hits it too hard in megaton punch games and has to stitch popstar back together by memory

[thorny shard]

THIS

THIS IS NOW CANON

[maiden swan]

Reminds me of the one comic of Sectonia using too much force to cut a cake that she cuts up Pop Star

[thin prairie]

What a “oops” moment

[ocean mauve]

the real reason kirby finished the job

[obtuse vessel]

Wait, but do they only cut it into halves?

[thin prairie]

Idk he hits popstar so hard it shatters into multiple pieces bro can smack a meteor thousands of light years away with a baseball bat, I wouldn’t put it behind him

[maiden swan]

Dw he enjoyed the cake

[vapid kestrel]

LMFAO PORTUGUESE TRANSLATOR WHY

[rustic trellis]

Tdx never happened and Sectonia only died because she cut a cake too hard

[covert jasper]

NOW YOU UNDERSTAND MY PAIN

[thin prairie]

Food for thought
Bandana dee is the weakest boss in super star ultra, but canonically is also the strongest

[odd rover]

WHO LET EM COOK

[rustic trellis]

He simply held back

There wasnt room for a true arena yet

So he couldnt go all out

[maiden swan]

How do we tell them

[novel fog]

btw Gigi how do you like having 'Magolor, o viajante interdimensional' and 'Viajante interdimensional' lol

[thin prairie]

Bandana dee wasn’t allowed in the true arena cause one duel would break the colosseum

[ocean mauve]

i want kumazaki to reference megaton punch by just showing bandana dee has absurd strength but doesn't often exert it

[strong wave]

hi

[ocean mauve]

and he just accidentally shatters a boss or something lmao

[maiden swan]

Hi

[ocean mauve]

sup

[thin prairie]

Bandee when he uses 0.1% of his power

[strong wave]

i just realise during the start of magolor epilouge while magolor was being defeated i just noticed he kinda looks more like magolor soul when thats happening its hard to tell if thats actully magolor soul cuz the color is gone

[maiden swan]

I like to imagine he was only as strong as the average waddle dee at the time but dedicated time to training afterwards, so Dedede would wake up one day and find a massive hole in the castle with bandee being like

“Sorry, sir”

[rustic trellis]

Bandee oneshots GK and we have to fight him

[thin prairie]

Bandee taps galactas mask, it breaks and so galacta instantly needs to forfeit because its a meta-like fight

“Ah hell nah, someone is playing megaton punch”

[rustic trellis]

Morpho would die of an overdose trying to consume bandee

[thin prairie]

It would like trying to eat a gallon of protein powder with a tea spoon

[maiden swan]

What would trying to consume kirby be like

[rustic trellis]

He would just disappear

Instantly

Like 1 frame

Just gone

[maiden swan]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[thin prairie]

Since kirby has infinite power it would be like trying to drink the ocean during a down pour

[maiden swan]

I would describe it as trying to drink a cinderblock through a straw

[thin prairie]

I live for these oddly specific analogies

[rustic trellis]

It would be like trying to hold the sun with an oven mitt

[thin prairie]

It would be like beating the true arena with sleep

[rustic trellis]

Hey man

[vapid kestrel]

|| https://twitter.com/imagesyeahokay/status/1629717653358100481 ||
MFW

images? yeah (@imagesyeahokay)

uh......... we take those??????? #Kirby #KirbysReturntoDreamLandDeluxe #NintendoSwitch

▶ Play video

Twitter · Feb 26, 2023, 5:39 AM

[rustic trellis]

That bubble does damage

And there are random copy essences

All im saying is its possible

[maiden swan]

Lmao

[novel fog]

Faye I posted this here like a week ago smh

[maiden swan]

I think I got a trade KO on one of the sphere doomers on one of my scuffed true arena runs

I was so sad

[covert jasper]

also painful

[thin prairie]

Sleep is part of the souvenir copy essence?

I don’t think I ever saw it

[strong wave]

same

[rustic trellis]

It should be iirc

I got sleep from one of the roulettes

Either a roulette before a boss or a random copy essence

[thin prairie]

Probably a roulette

[rustic trellis]

If they are in random essences im 100% gonna beat whispy sleep only

[thin prairie]

Good luck

If it is I want to see someone beat the ||master crown|| with it

[ocean mauve]

I don't think 30 sleeps from the random essences is enough tbh

[strong wave]

nobody really said there thoughts on this

[rustic trellis]

That might be difficult ||Since you can only hot the roots||

[ocean mauve]

for the arena anyway

[rustic trellis]

It is ||mago soul||

[ocean mauve]

oh yeah it is ||magolor soul in that cutscene||

[thin prairie]

Is there a cap on souvenir items?

[ocean mauve]

30

[thin prairie]

Then yea it’s impossible

Oh well. Sleep will have its moment again in the future

Its had a moveset once and in forgotten land it brought all the shops out of business so maybe next game it’ll have insane dps

[rustic trellis]

A miniboss might be possible

[rustic trellis]

You mean FL?

[thin prairie]

Yes

Its late for me and my brain is working on a single double A

[strong wave]

does that mean magolor epilouge takes place after ex mode

[rustic trellis]

It means that at the very least magolor soul is the canon version of the fight

[strong wave]

meaning that after main mode magolor has been defeated he probably gets sent to an alternate universe while his mind gets erased

[thin prairie]

Well see yall tomorrow. Im gonna go to bed

[strong wave]

bye

[covert jasper]

idk, I personally see extra mode as an AU. it's hard to tell

[strong wave]

the question is that are you even ment to play magolor epilouge after beating the main mode?

[covert jasper]

now I think everything is canon but many stuff is in AUs

[proper spindle]

Honestly it must be at this point

[covert jasper]

if it wasn't it wouldn't unlock after beating main mode

and I mean extra mode has really no different story

[vocal latch]

It reminds me of how Guest Star's ending ties to Heroes in Another Dimension when you unlock both at the same time (ofc HiAD only came in Wave 3, but so did Guest Star's tie-in to it so y'know lol)

[proper spindle]

Of course that also means broom hatter somehow defeated Morpho Knight in an alternate timeline

[covert jasper]

nice

[strong wave]

as for eavry single character in guest star allies did in like 37 other timelines

[rustic trellis]

Im gonna go with novel logic

And everything is from story mode besides mago soul

[maiden crane]

soul is cooler so

[thorny shard]

question

[strong wave]

but whats with the magolor soul sieing animation showing up at the beginning of magolor epilouge

[thorny shard]

since y'all are talking about guest star

i didn't finish playing kirby star allies yet, but i think the response is quite obvious

[strong wave]

talking about multiple things

[thorny shard]

you unlock guest star after finishing the main story right?

[covert jasper]

yes

[thorny shard]

it's speedrunning time

[covert jasper]

they are saying they think the main canon is story mode, except the last boss is magolor soul

[thorny shard]

OH MY GOD I FORGOT I HAD THE CORRUPTED ANIMATIONS MOD INSTALLED OH NO

[maiden crane]

i feel like the final form of magolor in story mode is pretty much a "soul" form anyway

[covert jasper]

which is like the RtDL novel did pretty much

[maiden crane]

what the fuck happened to dedede.

[thorny shard]

wdym he's just fine

[maiden crane]

okay anyways rtdl

[strong wave]

aparently magolor epilouge takes place after ex mode

[maiden crane]

theres like

0 plot differences

with EX mode anyways

[strong wave]

ik

[proper spindle]

Wait would that mean our Magolor canonically died

[maiden crane]

it really doesnt matter which one is canon honestly

[proper spindle]

And the currently living Magolor is EX Magolor

[maiden crane]

no

[strong wave]

no

[proper spindle]

Y’know what that’s morbid as hell and I am making that my headcanon now

[strong wave]

my therory is that magolor got sent to an alternate universe where eavrything is the same exept the ending and him getting esent to another dimension and his mind got erase

[thorny shard]

unistalled the corrupted abillities mod and this is the very first guy that appeared on the title screen 💀

hi friend

[maiden crane]

again it doesnt matter which mode is canon

either way it leads to the epilogue

[strong wave]

true

[strong wave]

basicly onely one loop happen and the loop was broken right after that

[thorny shard]

Magolor's moves in star allies really do hit different after playing the epilogue

at least he doesn't have to fully charge stuff to use the black hole now

[tawdry mulch]

He really respecced into Black Hole Build canonically

And of course with the big ass sword addon

[thin forge]

where magolor cannon

[thorny shard]

OH YEAH THE SWORD THING

[thin forge]

or whatever its called i dont remember

[thorny shard]

The purple sword he has also hits different now

[rustic trellis]

Isnt magolor cannon relegated to team attack in SA?

[thin forge]

fair

[tawdry mulch]

Everyone gets magolor cannon

[thin forge]

even the sparkler

[rustic trellis]

Everyone gets hit by magolor cannon

[thin forge]

aww hell nah why ||master woods|| got the ||laser beam attack from chaos elfilis' second phase||

[solar harbor]

OH NO

[tawdry mulch]

HR-D3 vibing in canonland (we unfortunately broke him)

HR-D3s deep canonicity debates spanning years

[tawdry mulch]

Ermmmmmm that's acktually ||Void Terminas crown laser||

The simple solution to this is that ||Elfilis is Void ||

[thorny shard]

nvm

its hard to speedrun when youre the kind of guy that likes to get all the collectables qwq

[vocal latch]

a bit Epilogue/Magoland related||https://twitter.com/kabo_chips/status/1632247672047566850||

[thin forge]

||aww hell nah its voids fursona||

[broken rune]

||so is magolor soul canon or what||

[thin forge]

probably???

idk lol

[solar harbor]

ELECYON LORE Teaser
||EleCyon and ELEC-DROID jump into action to fend off against the new threats rampaging across Planet Earth... but little do they know that something else may turn the tides...||

[thin forge]

what

[solar harbor]

Tbh I was expecting a better response than that.

[tawdry mulch]

Yes

[vale river]

Creating a new Magolor Epilogue save on a 100% file does not retroactively remove your 100%

@vapid kestrel

I don't know why I feel like you should know this if you didn't already

[fathom cradle]

Wait is this what you were asking yesterday

I thought you meant would your old epilogue save be deleted

[ruby plaza]

I wish they added some of the stuff that was exclusive to the 20th anniversary dream collection

Like Magolor Races and the other ability challenges

[thin forge]

rockin the traitor magolor ex mask, i really like it

[flat pendant]

||Considering the fact that Magolor Soul gets sucked up into Another Dimension portal in the end of the True Arena and with Vanpool having large involvement in the creation of this remake. It could potentially tie into a future Team Kirby Clash game by Vanpool as many of the Parallel Bosses have had a similar defeat animation in the Clash games. So if we ever get another Clash title they might give us a "Parallel Magolor" of sorts as this True Arena fight basically is the "worst outcome" for Magolor like many other Parallel bosses were designed to be. ||

||Magolor probably used all the money he gained from being shop owner in Dream Kingdom to build his Merry Magoloand so he might not be present in a future clash game. Giving a good excuse for this "Parallel Magolor" to appear in this hypothetical new Team Kirby Clash title. ||

[leaden terrace]

YEAH YEAH YEAH

[thin forge]

hear me out: ||microtaranzaction||

[leaden terrace]

||Bet this is another one of Magolor's sick jokes for Taranza||

[thin forge]

||first the mask of his dead gf, and now this? when will taranza get a w||

[tepid pivot]

||when I saw the true arena version of magolor soul get sucked into a portal, I started to think about a multiversal magolor soul that travels throughout the the kirby multiverse||

[flat pendant]

scary

we already know that one ||"dream kingdom"|| has been seemingly ||bought to ruin|| before.

[leaden terrace]

||The fact that it's even heavily implied that Magolor could've just been gone, I think it'd be even scarier what we could see in his future fights||

[flat pendant]

||Magolor joining in the "i let power erase me from existence" club||

[late smelt]

here to ask if the true arena is beefed up compared to the original

[thin forge]

||multiversal magolor soul gets his ass kicked by a newly positive energy-imbued void||

[thin forge]

yes

[late smelt]

is it big beef

[odd rover]

You tellin me that ||The true arena Magolor Soul is probably still out there wandering the multiverse||

[odd rover]

Very

[late smelt]

ok i will prepare myself mentally

[thin forge]

21 fights

[leaden terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/21-gif-20187208

[idle sapphire]

Is it still only oranges for healing?

[odd rover]

Hey Beast Boy how many normal bosses are there in Magolor Epilogue

[solar harbor]

||Maybe Taranza should run the Shoppe now that Magolor's gone off to create Merry Magoland||

[thin forge]

no, its m tomatoes

[solar harbor]

||He'll get to bring out all his woes about Queen Sectonia onto Team Kirby, and he'd be crying all night... while also selling Gem Apples||

[thin forge]

(they turn into regular tomatoes when you eat them the first time, and those are gone completely after you eat em)

[odd rover]

Plot twist: ||Magolor heads back to the Dream Kingdom and Merry Magoland is ran by employee waddle dee||

[spiral bobcat]

||Setting it from M for Magolor to W for Waddle Dee||

[thin forge]

||nerd announcer waddle dee from forgotten land runs it now||

[thin forge]

||"waddle he, waddle she, waddle me, waddle dee."||

||"waddle deeology, THE STUDY OF WADDLE DEE?! ITS FIRST GRADE, KIRBY!"||

[lilac arch]

||So from what I get from the epilogue's story is that the Master Crown brought GD back as Crowned Doomer and made the other bosses collect the fruit fragments in order to gain tree powers, but Magolor gets in the way but not really since he did what the crown wanted anyway||

||Either that or Crowned Doomer was just in the mood to eat gem apples that day and the crown's fragments just happened to land on it||

[thin forge]

||i dont think its the grand doomer||

[lost briar]

||i think the Crowned Doomer is supposed to be the boss of all the prior bosses, but the crown took over the apple because how the crowned doomer was defeated while leaving behind the apple||

||the fruit fragments are mentioned to contain life energy, and doomers are well known to be attracted to energy, i'd say the Crowned Doomer was after that||

[solar harbor]

Regarding this convo:

||And also how tf would Magolor be the only one left on Halcandra when the Master Crown has likely carpet-bombed the entirety of Egg Engines, the only place everyone thought could be where the Halcandran ancients lived||

[leaden terrace]

||Probably too busy fucking around somewhere else lol||

||And when Halcandra WAS destroyed hes like "lol ok"||

thats the only reasonable explanation

[solar harbor]

||I'd imagine Magolor didn't exist until a thousand years after Halcandra was ravaged by the Master Crown, and then he decides to use his magic for an adventure through space and time, and then he arrives at Halcandra after reading through a mysterious book about the Lor Starcutter.||

[leaden terrace]

yeah that seems to be the most likely case

[solar harbor]

HUH

I checked WiKirby's page for Magolor Epilogue and they got that one Nintendo DREAM issue already

[novel fog]

well yeah, the quote has been on the internet for a while

[solar harbor]

Yeah but people were already asking for the full interview lol

Which we eventually got a snippet of for WiKirby

[novel fog]

well we had that for a while

[solar harbor]

Oh lol

For real though, I still think about how ||Kumazaki had this entire thing planned for almost NINE YEARS.||

[novel fog]

like, the Tweet with the picture of the quote was from late 2021 lol
and I posted it here after we found out about the thing from it a few months ago

the only thing that is recent is the fact someone posted a list of (JP) Magolor-related quotes and it was in there, which had the last part of it that was hard to see in the image
though WiKirby doesn't have it there lol

but anyway, we still don't have full interview

or that one Star Allies one either
and a bunch of other ones

[flat pendant]

||I assume that the Rampaging Doomers and Crowned Doomer are basically Sphere Doomers "original form" (or at least close to their original form) because Crowned Doomer is shown to able to warp "space and time" in it's fight||

[granite cedar]

iirc apparently its a bit of a ||miswording on localization's part. basically jp pause text suggests is that it wans't "original form" as in their bodies, but original form of their abilities. so yeah you are actually right on the money||

[vocal latch]

lmfao

[leaden terrace]

seems legit

[thin prairie]

one of these things is not like the others

[solar harbor]

Moundo EX

[thorny shard]

Ah yes

My favorite Kirby Return to Dreamland Deluxe Boss

[thin prairie]

Nice

[thorny shard]

King Dedede EX

[granite cedar]

I know the obvious joke here but tf is the thing at the bottom in the middle 😭

[solar harbor]

That's Grand Doomer EX I think?

That looks like the same wormhole it comes out from

[vocal latch]

King Dedede's new phase in the True Arena obviously

[leaden terrace]

i knew he had it in him

[vocal latch]

Lol imagine if Dream Land 1 had like a full remake and just straight-up had Dedede Soul

it'd be a shortass game but

Dedede Soul would be VERY funny

[leaden terrace]

how would that even happen

King Dedede actually suffers fall damage and DIES

[vocal latch]

The craziest thing is he morphs to every Dedede design ever conceived

[leaden terrace]

does this include the Anime Dedede design too

As he circulates through all his iterations, you suddenly hear "I WANT A MONST-" before it gets cut off into the next form

[solar harbor]

Just add in a Revenge of the King remake into it too

Masked Dedede IS Dedede Soul

[ruby narwhal]

Kid named Blowout blast secret path:

[maiden forum]

https://youtu.be/9JZ9BJrkHXI

he thought getting everything done in this game would be relaxing

[granite cedar]

to be honest

not counting challenge stages it was relatively more relaxing than MOSt games to 100%

[maiden forum]

well he has to go for the 120 on magoland too

and all platinums

[granite cedar]

ok yeah platinums

platinums are bs lel

i think most magoland missions are reasonable at least

[vast vapor]

platinums are Sheit!!!

missions aren’t the worst thing in the world

[vocal latch]

Sending Magolor to the Dimensional Abyss again just for that Wing Challenge Stage 🙏

[granite cedar]

SO TRUE

this is the real reason why we should hate magolor

[maiden forum]

i think doing "everything" in this game is decidedly less relaxing then the 3DS games or FL

[vast vapor]

fucker creates the most devious stupid challenge ever and expects us to get a platinum on it

[maiden forum]

arguably SA too

[vast vapor]

and then do it a second time

hope he rots

[granite cedar]

ehhh

well

FL is easier ill admit

but 3ds games is ehhh

true arenas lack any sort of quality of life features and you need to grind stickers and keychains

[maiden forum]

that not as bad as get 18 points in tome tracker

[granite cedar]

took me less tries than robobot true arena

[maiden forum]

took me more tries then this true arena

[vast vapor]

everything here took me less tries than robobot true arena lol

[granite cedar]

so true!

fuck robobot true arena 😌

[vast vapor]

doesn’t mean some missions weren’t bad though

[granite cedar]

oh yeah def

[vast vapor]

Perfect Blaster Ace

[granite cedar]

magoland tour level 3 win all games

actually hellish mission

[vast vapor]

true!

[vocal latch]

I did it first try

[granite cedar]

somehow i managed to do it yesterday with fucking crackity hack and tome trackers in tow

don't ask me how. lady luck was on my side that day i guess

on tome trackers i even got 19 points somehow

[vast vapor]

those ones aren’t too bad

[vocal latch]

What if they add Scope Shot for the Robobot remake

[waxen kiln]

apparently some missions only require one CPU to be active

[granite cedar]

yup

i did cheese some of the missions like that lol

[vast vapor]

if you get samurai kirby or booming blasters though just reroll

[maiden forum]

it took him 5 hours to plat one of the challenge stages in main mode

[granite cedar]

me when i get samurai kirby and see meta knight cpu

[waxen kiln]

simply too skilled

[granite cedar]

this is canon

[vocal latch]

Tbh I wonder why Galacta Knight's eye color changed from red to lavender lol

Looks cool with both tho

[maiden forum]

wow gerard called out the journos for giving it a low score cause its "easy"

[granite cedar]

Based

I mean it's not even that easy??? Like genuinely lmfao

Sometimes i feel like journalists just repeat that because that's what always said about Kirby games

Rather than because how they genuinely felt about difficulty

[faint galleon]

Bro did not play extra mode

[leaden terrace]

im honestly

SO rusty at games in general

i dont think i can effectively play even a kirby game without dying many times 😭

i was playing kirby super star ultra and i literally, LITERALLY almost lost ALL my lives to the fucking chameleon boss

i dont think it was even that bad the last time i played it

[granite cedar]

With Kirby i think it's mostly not that they are EASY but moreso that they are forgiving? I guess
If you make a mistake you can easily rectify it instead of being forced to exit the level

[leaden terrace]

but holy hell THIS was awful

that is true but i also lost my super cool mirror ability thats just not cool

[unreal stag]

wait are p(latinum) ranks required for 100%

[leaden terrace]

dont think so

[granite cedar]

I recently played a NSMB game and it was super annoying how every time i died i was straight up just kicked to the world map

[unreal stag]

okay

[granite cedar]

You don't even need to get gold

You just need to pass them

[vale river]

"While Extra Mode provides a marginal step up for the challenge, the Souvenir Item option trivializes the difficulty and sabotages any attempt at making the game anything more than a light romp through Dream Land."

[leaden terrace]

Souvenir Item

[granite cedar]

This sentence makes me feel annoyed, good job at recapturing the smug reviewer writing style

[vale river]

"Players are incentivized to play mindless minigames for hours to stock up full healing items and powerful exploding bombs when they hit a roadblock, something I was forced to do in order to beat what I believe to be Extra Mode's final boss, Mr. Dooter EX."

[granite cedar]

LMAO

Okay but actually why mr dooter ex is so hard

[unique gyro]

why is that such a mood
I fucking hate Mr. Dooter EX

[granite cedar]

I think this is one ex boss that is a very big jump in difficulty

[vale river]

He did NOT spam hi-jump

[unique gyro]

I can easily beat 'em with survival strats, but who cares about survival, I wanna beat it fast

[granite cedar]

Mood

[vale river]

Dooter is the only boss with a good matchup for hi-jump

[unique gyro]

sometimes it's also the first boss so it's like AAAAARG

[granite cedar]

There's also goriath

[unique gyro]

the run's over before it's begun

Goriath EX I find easier, personally

[granite cedar]

Goriath is good with hi jump

[vale river]

If you hit a climbing goriath you might get hit during endlag

[granite cedar]

Yeah he isn't that bad

Hmmm

[vale river]

Meanwhile you can always just swerve around Dooter

[unique gyro]

Really, my biggest issue is just finding places to land Hammer Flip

[vale river]

But also I forgot Whispy lol

RtDL is easy to beat, tricky to master, hard to complete and very hard to 100%

Getting the full jukebox is genuinely challenging in the remake

[granite cedar]

The full completion theme is so satisfying that it felt worth it

[maiden forum]

Extra mode is legit

Well not hard

But you will die

They really cut back the healing

[vast vapor]

extra will catch you off guard

and you will die

[vale river]

Im not even ashamed to admit that I used souvenir items like seven times

Partly just to try them and partly because I was going to die lol

(In extra mode)

[vast vapor]

I used like twenty pep brews in extra mode lol

[maiden forum]

I don't consider dying the only factor to challenge which it feels like journos do

[vale river]

:ITSNAMEWASRETCONNEDTOENERGYDRINKINAIRRIDE:

[vast vapor]

ratio

[maiden forum]

I've always called it energy drink anyways

[vale river]

You, sir, have won the internet

Have a cookie! Have a karma! Have the red pill!

Kazooiee meet me outside in four

You will be shot

[leaden terrace]

kazooiee i dont think you should do that

sounds pretty sus

[vale river]

Don't listen to 0th

Dying in Kirby is rarely such a big deal because levels are room-based and there's almost always the copy ability you need in the room

The challenge is the observational skills, moveset knowledge and execution, and puzzle solving

Dying is just Annoying

[maiden forum]

Which is why extra mode isn't that much harder

Cause the main challenge is getting spheres

[unique gyro]

Seeking out all the secrets will tend to grant you a lot of extra lives anyhow

you just gotta pray you and your fellow players, if you do co-op, don't use them all up

[vale river]

And you get even more lives in extra mode because healing items are replaced with point stars

[unique gyro]

I mean, the amount of Point Stars added doesn't exactly amount to that much, lol

[maiden forum]

I just don't think extra mode is very good in general

[glossy jay]

Dying in Kirby isn't a a big deal, wait for him to walk off screen so you can respawn

[maiden forum]

But they have not done it since

[vast vapor]

extra mode was good here I think

mainly cause I took my time with it and didn’t blast through it like the main game

[maiden forum]

I just find it to be busy work

I'm glad they switched it out for speedrun modes and post game remixes

[maiden swan]

Did it also feel like the Another Dimension wall moved faster than it did in OG’s extra mode

Please tell me I’m not the only one who felt like that’s something different

[granite cedar]

Oh it was

[vast vapor]

oh ya that was definitely faster

[vale river]

I never went back and looked at Trickery's description before upgrades

Lol

[unique gyro]

Well, neither concept is exactly new within Kirby

Extra's been since KDL, and has appeared at least 5 times total, and speedrun modes debuted during one of those titles, even

[maiden forum]

Well that's why I said switched out

I know they were both in older games but pist rtdl they opted for speed run modes instead

And then made full on post game content with HiAD and forgo dreams

And now even magolor epilogue

[celest grove]

Personally I think Extra mode's difficulty is cheap

and not very interesting

I've recently dealt with someone who defends it and I mean

to each their own

but I think it's cheap difficulty

(bosses aside)

I think a mode where you get half the health bar that the game was made for is cheap

[granite cedar]

I appreciate them actually making it feel like a challenge this time because it wasn't even hard in the original
Still very flawed though. But what can ya do

At least with magoland ex mode has a bit more purpose, you can try out all sorts of masks from the beginning now

[celest grove]

it's not like FL imo, where it felt like the Wild Mode health bar is the regular amount

and I still die sometimes

not a lot but it still happens

but the game never felt unfair

Extra mode is imo on the unfair side

(also I think Extra mode in KDL is also unfair, but the game is short, and all the enemies are entirely different which makes it way more interesting)

[vale river]

If FL is like normal and easy mode, RtDL is like normal and hard mode

[granite cedar]

Don't forget helper Magolor

[vale river]

He died

[celest grove]

RTDL's Hard mode is just imo not interesting to play

I just didn't enjoy it

[lofty condor]

||God Magolor is such a child and I love it lmao||

[celest grove]

in terms of harder mode

I still very much prefer HiAD and FL's post game

it's not easy

[maiden swan]

Oh thank God

[celest grove]

I still die

but it feels right

[maiden swan]

Also you jumpscared me on my tl

[astral ember]

I feel like they're on the right track. There were times where I genuinely had difficulty. I was dreading replaying the whole game again so soon but I enjoyed extra more this time than when it came out on Wii

[celest grove]

Extra mode is definitely more difficult this time around

but I still have the same opinion as I did back then

it just doesn't feel interesting to me

[astral ember]

I kind of wish they turned it into a time attack mode like Triple Deluxe and Planet Robobot

[celest grove]

it needs something more to keep me interested

[astral ember]

Where you can also play through the game as other characters

[granite cedar]

I hope they will do a middle ground in the next mainline game where there is similar "genuine hard mode" but as a difficulty option rather than separate thing you need to unlock

[celest grove]

At least in a sense RTDX did things right

I believe I have the exact same opinion of the game as I did with RTDL back then

I'm sure HAL knows it's boring

there's a reason they did not do Extra mode ever again

they did it in this remake because it's a remake

[astral ember]

For a second I was expecting the Magolor stuff to replace it

[celest grove]

I do wish they were a bit more ambitious about it to an extent

but I'm not really complaining

as far as I'm concerned, this is a great remake

it has the same highs, and the same lows

though I do think it has a bit higher highs because of Magolor Epilogue

[astral ember]

It's fantastic. I feel like there hasn't been a remake of a mainline kirby that hasn't been worth it

[tawdry mulch]

||I think of this as a possible segway into ME||

[lofty condor]

||I need more of this kind of dialogue in Kirby||

[astral ember]

Magolor has millennial snark and I'm here for it

[tawdry mulch]

Finally decisive battlefield mention so real this thing is SUSPICIOUS

[vale river]

The mark of true power.

[celest grove]

I can't really complain too much about what RTDX isn't

[covert jasper]

I agree, I mentioned I think yesterday that it feels artificial

[celest grove]

when it's really just a pretty faithful remake

[covert jasper]

like it becomes less forgiving for mistakes, and that's it

[celest grove]

The one thing in this remake that I felt differently

is that now I'm looking at it as a Kirby fan

and not as someone who was willing to know what Kirby was about

[covert jasper]

so true

[celest grove]

and so I have things that I appreciate more than in the past

in the past I didn't notice the bosses were different in EX mode

pattern wise

I did notice the color difference but they felt the same

I didn't have the same trained eye as I do now

so now I appreciate the EX bosses better

as I notice what's truly different about them

it's really the only good part of EX mode

...but then you have the True Arena for it so

[astral ember]

Seeing people react to RtDL DX similar to the way I reacted when Super Star Ultra came out gives me the warm fuzzies

[tawdry mulch]

We love kiby

My favorite part of this game that isn't the awesome game is interview exclusive lore became real lore!!!! Yes!!!! More of that please!!!

[astral ember]

Anyone remember the Miiverse posts Kumazaki did for Triple Deluxe and Planet Robobot?

I'd love to see that lore put into the games

[leaden terrace]

When the lore becomes more accessible to more Kirby fans and therefore no more disputing!

[maiden forum]

If they changed all the energy sphere puzzles though

Different story

The most you get are sped up keydeez

[tawdry mulch]

Those poor poor games

[maiden forum]

Or some smaller enemies to jump on with spike boots

[astral ember]

That small enemy in the item challenge room is nightmare enough

[maiden forum]

I think HAL definitely realized it wasn't a very substantive way to play

[astral ember]

Can't imagine dozens more 🦝

[maiden forum]

But at least they tried to make it more challenging I guess

[thin prairie]

why is it called mike

shouldnt it be mic

[tawdry mulch]

It's his name

Mike

[pliant socket]

This actually looks so raw

[maiden swan]

Michelangelo Kirby

[solar harbor]

Thanks

[pliant socket]

I love your whole aesthetic

I rlly vibe with it

[solar harbor]

Thanks, it's a carry-over from when I used to work on my JSAB fancomics

Inkscape be the GOAT

[pliant socket]

True....

[vapid kestrel]

lol

[vocal latch]

WAIT FUCK

||So, remember how Magolor Day is every Sunday? The very first Magolor Day after Team Kirby Clash Deluxe released was on...Easter.||

[leaden terrace]

I HEARD ABOUT THAT

[brave crag]

||GOSH DARN IT, KUMAZAKI!||

[leaden terrace]

SOMEONE HERE SAID IT BEFORE

OH MY GOD

[vocal latch]

||YEAH||

[leaden terrace]

this is us rn

[vocal latch]

||Someone should edit that to have Magolor trending too LOL||

[leaden terrace]

😭 😭 😭

[unique gyro]

hello, that person's probably me, lol

[celest grove]

I forgot

[unique gyro]

If nothing else, let it be known that I'm probably the odd Kirby player who wants Extra Mode to be in every Kirby in some form

Perhaps with tweaks to make it much less of a chore to unlock, and optional for those who don't want to dive that far

I dunno if HAL would take such a suggestion, though I'm willing to try, tbh

[covert jasper]

KUMAZAKI WHAT

[vapid kestrel]

Me, a translator totally unbiased to fan theories

[lofty condor]

ON GOD

[covert jasper]

fucking

[leaden terrace]

kumazaki STOp

[austere willow]

So his sin is betrayal???????

[tawdry mulch]

his sin is being so darn adorable

[leaden terrace]

God after I sneeze cutely

https://tenor.com/view/spawn-hell-hurl-through-hell-fall-to-hell-fire-gif-17250068

[vapid kestrel]

This is the word that description uses

Maybe I should go for ||'wrongdoing'|| instead?

[thin willow]

Start dashing before you jump onto the block

[faint galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-tower-peppino-gif-27503546

[waxen kiln]

hes dead

[granite cedar]

Casual reminder that i adore Kumazaki he's just

This on constant basis

[vapid kestrel]

You wish your favorite series was made by someone this cool

[faint galleon]

This fucking image is SENDING ME

[tawdry mulch]

Me with Kirby staring at the other me loving Bayonetta 2 and being stuck with Kamiya

Kirby made me interested in a spin off series i wanted to ignore lorewise while Bayonetta 3 made me concerned for a spin off coming out this month this is society

[leaden terrace]

bayonetta 3 did not neter my life enough that it affects my view on the psinoff 😌

[tawdry mulch]

bayonetta 3 boo womp

i hope the spin off makes me not sad

[granite cedar]

Consistent existence as a Kirby fan is being rewarded for being a Kirby fan and being a fan of any other series never feels so consistently "yeah im happy i stuck around"

[tawdry mulch]

kirby keeps blowing up my expectations despite annoying some annoying decisions that they still manage to rectify anyways

i would go as far to say revealing shopkeeper magolor was a spoiler wtf they should have just saved it

[granite cedar]

Thing with Kirby is that high chances annoying decisions will be addressed and fixed in future games
I don't have the same confidence in other series lol

[granite cedar]

To be HONEST wording in that interview was still vague so this still counts as genuine unambiguous reveal

[tawdry mulch]

kumazaki just couldnt hold in his ingenious twist

[leaden terrace]

he just like me

[granite cedar]

Okay but now i think

What if this is the reason he's vague as hell all the time

He doesn't know if he will get to realize his grand plans but he can't hold it in

So he kinda tells it and kinda doesn't

[tawdry mulch]

||fighting soul again and i really want to know wtf is up with the background. like im just saying "hurr durr its like figurative of the Crown being made from Terminas power" to be tame but like what actually is happening||

||i say be tame as if i am not convinced clash happens on halcandra||

[leaden terrace]

i feel like his first director works is just him being that

marx soul

has almost nothing going for him except the idea that hes a zombie brought to life by nova's power

[granite cedar]

You can see him gradually go insane with scope and ideas as he gets more influence in HAL

[tawdry mulch]

okay i thought this fight was easy cause i beat it with needle last night but i almost lost cause i was shitting around

[granite cedar]

Okay wait a fucking second

This is literally just magolor soul hello????

And both nova and master crown are ancients creations???

In probably too slow to connect the dots but. Yeah

[ruby narwhal]

The crown wasn’t made by void it was made by the ancients, void is only creating a mimic of it from his memories

[thin willow]

Marx is still alive in canon purely out of spite I think/j

[leaden terrace]

watch for when he makes KSSUU and he turns marx into a...

[thin willow]

^

[leaden terrace]

would i even suggest it?

[tawdry mulch]

marx roleld nat 20

[leaden terrace]

who said crown was made by void

[tawdry mulch]

i psychically transferred that to their mind sorry

[ruby narwhal]

It disappears into nothingness after the attack ends just like the other weapons

[astral ember]

Are the ancients the same species that abandoned all the animals in Forgotten Land?

[leaden terrace]

idk

[tawdry mulch]

so now my question is did the ancients make weapons out of Void Termina power and if so where are they we need to get rid of them oh my god

[vocal latch]

Yep.

[granite cedar]

Not confirmed but a lot of evidence to suggest it imo

[ruby narwhal]

Probably, if you compare the architecture from lab dicovera and halcandra/shiver star then it seems very likely

[granite cedar]

And like

[floral mantle]

Is Magolor an Egg or Cat? Or both?

[granite cedar]

It's NO coincidence with how FL and RTDX are placed together

He KNOWS that these games are related lore wise

[tawdry mulch]

also why would they make an entirely different race of bingusses that leave their planet after getting planet hopping power

[leaden terrace]

egg cat demon idk

i say demon but idk wtf he is that causes him to grow horns

[granite cedar]

This
They wouldn't give so much world building to random ass civilization i think

[leaden terrace]

surely thats not just master crown

[granite cedar]

Probably just master crown

Ancients creations just give you drip

Look at Marx soul

[leaden terrace]

true..

marx got the ice.

[astral ember]

It seems like they didn't have the ability to create such powerful devices in the New World, and Magolor says that they used a power to make the artifacts. Does this mean that they might have left the New World, then went to Halcandra, and had to flee that place too?

[leaden terrace]

both figuratively and literally

[tawdry mulch]

i really want to know whats up with the Doomers like is the implication that the ancients stole power from them after needing more of it so now they're birds and want it back

are they elfilis jr.s maybe not they dont look like him SO WHAT ARE THEY

[leaden terrace]

theyre basards thats what

dirty little baaastards

[ruby narwhal]

They probably got their start making things to travel as a number 1 priority and then probably made the powerful devices after they moved

[astral ember]

I think the doomers are really just creatures that lurk between dimensions. There's a bunch of them that appear in the epilogue that you only see in the Landia segment in the main game

[granite cedar]

I mean even if they learned warp technology from Elfilis i doubt they had a lot of energy to sustain it on their own

So this actually ties into this SUPER nicely

[tawdry mulch]

yeah i do think the doomers losing their form was the result of ancients action since they want to gobble up them spheres

im just happy we will probably get more doomer action!!!

ive been waiting!!! a long time!!

[granite cedar]

Doomers losing warping powers and loving energy spheres is probably no coincidence lol

[leaden terrace]

Mr. Electricky KILL THEM!! KILL THEM NOW

[astral ember]

Well. Kirby now has two friends that can warp him to far off places

[granite cedar]

Elfilin and Lor should team up

Crazy things might happen

[ruby narwhal]

The sphere doomers losing their forms reminds me of how shriek used to be a regular owl but was heavily deformed due to reasons

[leaden terrace]

Elfilin and Lor 😳

theyd be besties

[astral ember]

I want Elfilin on the Lor with a pirate hat and eyepatch

[granite cedar]

So true

[tawdry mulch]

im sure there is some religious story about birds that works here

[astral ember]

HAL pls don't have our soft fuzzy boi leave us after Forgotten Land, he's my favorite Kirby helper

[granite cedar]

He probably won't

He's from the best selling game in the franchise

[astral ember]

That's true!

[tawdry mulch]

elfilin will get magolor pilled

[astral ember]

Maybe an Elfilis form to make him playable?

[granite cedar]

imagine that'll be sick

[leaden terrace]

Elfilis form ... sniff sniff

[tawdry mulch]

he does have forgo's power now hermmm

[astral ember]

Loving this trend in Kirby games of befriending even the true final bosses.

[leaden terrace]

if only same can be said for morpho knight... unfortunately he really likes picking fights

fought literally everyone non-canonically

[ruby narwhal]

Maybe he’ll gain that form sometime after fl when he gets used to being fully complete

[astral ember]

I have a feeling Morpho Knight doesn't have ill intentions

[tawdry mulch]

im now realizing what i wanted to happen with Morpho and Galacta being canonized back to back retroactively happened cause of Clash canon lmfaoooo

[leaden terrace]

YEAH

[astral ember]

Was that the real Galacta, or Dream Kingdom galacta?

Er I should say "Prime Galacta"

[tawdry mulch]

presumably real galacta since he got pulled from scary portal

[ruby narwhal]

I think gk may be in a similar situation to mag where he’s just a single entity drifting between universes lost in time and space

[leaden terrace]

me revving up on the idea that morpho might be evil

[tawdry mulch]

and then just pulled up on his own three times in clash

i guess he was mad af

[astral ember]

He's mad at the player for spending money

what do nyall feel about the "Galacta is future Kirby" theory

[leaden terrace]

😊 i never believe it