Kirby RtDL Deluxe Leaks/Datamines

[mighty breach]

"Adventure" or "Journey" would feel more fitting for what most people seem to speculate that this might be

Although it could be just misleading wording

[errant burrow]

unrelated actually I just noticed something after looking at the back of box screenshot

the esrb rating includes in-app purchases

[mighty breach]

[errant burrow]

probably a KF2 situation where it has links to purchase other Kirby games from the eShop or whatever and allegedly that's enough for the ESBR to automatically give it that

[mighty breach]

also I don't see it anywhere where is it

[mighty breach]

Did forgor land have it too?

[errant burrow]

no

[mighty breach]

Wonder why Forgotten Land doesn't has it tho

Maybe it's because of they way they are presented

[quaint osprey]

||I mean idk Kirby games had worse besides it's a concept first introduced in a Kirby game and been explored in official side-media||

I think mode will be cool regardless of the setting personally so it's not a huge dealbreaker to me

[toxic crown]

i should say for the westerners

where they censor this shit for some reason

[quaint osprey]

They very might tone it down

But i doubt they will go beyond renaming to underworld or something

[errant perch]

They’re probably gonna change to “the sprit world” or some shit idk

[quaint osprey]

Because we ofc joke kirby being a baby game, but it's already rated to be at least 10+ kids game lol

[errant perch]

I mean, if hal can tone it down enough, it seems perfectly reasonable

[quaint osprey]

Yeah I don't think it would be outwardly edgy in jp either

It will be the case of "if you think about this long enough this is kind of effed up"

[noble lynx]

girlies we had a cult in the first switch game

underworld is not a problem

[mighty breach]

If they are fine with making Dark Nebula the CEO of the underworld I don't see why they won't use "underworld" here in this context

[noble lynx]

we literally had live sacrifices shown on screen

goop monster assimilating other creatures (creatures that dont want to be assimilated) and then turning into flesh monster

its really no big deal

[quaint osprey]

Kirby fans be like "this too much for a kirby they would never do this"

Kirby games: do it anyway

[worn bridge]

PLEASE DIE FOR OUR GOD

https://tenor.com/view/blm-gif-25815938

[mighty breach]

they will never send the egg to the fire hole
they:

[errant perch]

Yea, as of pr they really started to push the envelope further than ever, still not comparable to actual horror but definitely significant for a kids game

[noble lynx]

if they want to re-release both Kirby games that had blood in it into the NSO they will

[quaint osprey]

Also FL literally had Leongar quite literally like.... Die for a bit

[noble lynx]

if they want to imply that youre in the intestines of a giant demon they will

[quaint osprey]

HAL can go places if they want

[noble lynx]

if they want to imply that Hell is a Thing in the Kirby Universe. the name will change but the concept will stay intact

[mighty breach]

even if they don't go hard on what's happening on-screen, the pause screen lore will do it

[quaint osprey]

Essentially

[noble lynx]

why is that a concern when Kirby has gotten more and more intense on what its showing

especially from 3DS -> Switch

3DS, bee splits from her body and fights as a head with wings

Switch, Kirby peels off the skin off the final boss and its mandatorily done by the player themselves

[quaint osprey]

I think people might be still suffering from "this is too good to be true" syndrome so think of ways it might be lamer than it is

[noble lynx]

like u can say KSA is lame or whatever but that statement still stands

Kirby has gotten more and more cinematic with its shit it knows whats actually cool and has so since RtDL

[quaint osprey]

And like it might still not be Hades/Underworld for all we know cuz we have no information
It's just not gonna be because HAL was afraid to do it but rather because they wanted to do something else instead

[noble lynx]

and this is RtDL DX

[mellow snow]

I hope the steak isn’t raw

[worn bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/elfilis-popstar-kirby-and-the-forgotten-land-kirby-forgotten-land-planet-popstar-gif-25624914

The steak:

[vital crest]

They are taking their time to reveal the ||new mode|| huh

I thought it would be 2 or 3 days after leaking

[mellow snow]

The direct on the table

[dull geode]

I think it's funny that there is a very high chance that even if it is they'll localize it out like the other instances of it and we'll just be confused

[errant perch]

We’re most likely gonna get tears of the kingdom footage, pikmin 4 footage and the ||mag epilogue|| reveal in the same direct (at least what I predict seeing as they’re all coming out relatively soon-ish) they sure are trying to make up for the farm direct, aren’t they?

[vital seal]

If Super Paper Mario can have the concept of ||death|| and ||underworld|| then Kirby can too

[dull geode]

I'm not saying they can't have it just that they keep localizing it out lmao

Idk why

[vague vector]

Why would they localize it out is my thinking

||I mean SPM is literally rated E and it still had the underworld||

[mellow snow]

||They should call it the Underwhere||

[vague vector]

||oh thats a good one, they should call heaven the Overthere because its over there and it's also a reference to hotel mario||

[dull geode]

TRUE

[mellow snow]

||Each of the 7 Paradise bosses will have their own hotel||

[vague vector]

||We've gotta find the exit! And YOU gotta help us!||

[quaint osprey]

thing is

i dont think underworld was localized out of SA because of censorship concerns

i think it was localized out because of incompetence/rush job

like some things in star allies were obviously censored

this is not one of them lol

[errant perch]

Now we have post-fl localisation and the team only has to focus on one side mode so they don’t rush it and can make a good job of it

[austere yacht]

I’m going to eat it

[quaint osprey]

tbh

we don't know that

they can relocalize the script for the main game as is, like this is genuinely a possibility

but even without that, they are going to add entirely new text as well too

even so, i think rtdx's localization will be fine

[errant perch]

“What a dream battle”

[vague vector]

Me when I climb the tower in desperation!!!!

[quaint osprey]

me when kirby will turn into toasty marshmallow or whatever that was

[vague vector]

and then disappear forever

[scarlet ether]

yeah, they are definitely fine with 'underworld'

[vague vector]

dying for our god was a much more raw line tbh

[scarlet ether]

when the 'ruler of the underworld' lmao

[quaint osprey]

i understand that they couldn't leave the original line in

but this is such a lame replacement

like they didn't even try

[vague vector]

There are

[quaint osprey]

even literally "please disappear for our god"

[vague vector]

So many better ways to replace "die for our god"

Like

Perish?

[quaint osprey]

perish sounds raw yes

idk how treehouse went from sectonia's speech in tdx to "please disappear forever"

[vague vector]

Like its an E10+ rated game you can imply death/outright say death

If shadow did so can you

[scarlet ether]

hell, they're fine with stuff like heaven, so underworld shouldn't be a problem either way (though I think they'll make it Hades or something)

[quaint osprey]

as unlikely as it is i really hope that it will be hades

it just sounds better than underworld

[scarlet ether]

I don't like Hades for fan translations but for official I think it would be good enough

[quaint osprey]

i think this line is made up or at least very different from japanese one

but it's very very good

how did we got from this to star allies english script

[vague vector]

Clearly just lack of resources and the fact that it was rushed maybe

[quaint osprey]

most likely

hopefully its not an issue anymore

for all its worth i think manager magolor's dialogue sounds very charming

so they got that right at least

[errant burrow]

honestly I get the feeling they'd probably call it Limbo

or some stupid pun that makes it impossible to take seriously like Redgar

[scarlet ether]

yeah one in Japanese is
全てを 治めんとする 女王に
あだなす というのか?
nothing to do with heaven (or sky) I think

[noble lynx]

wow i cant read that

[errant perch]

There’s literally a stage in ksa called heavenly hall

[noble lynx]

right. the bot isnt here.

Also i bet they'd name it Pandemonium

if i'm right yuo all owe me soda

[scarlet ether]

I think it's roughly the same meaning, just she calls herself a 'queen who rules over everything' instead of 'ruler of the heavens'

or something like that

[scarlet ether]

they could, but it sounds a bit complicated lol

[noble lynx]

Halcandrian is the same amount of complexity i think

[scarlet ether]

Halcandra you mean
and not really

I don't even know how to pronounce Pandemonium lmao
and isn't that the capital of hell or something? idk if it's the best option

[noble lynx]

I still think its very possible considering Divine Terminus Mind in a Program Eternal Dream Land

ya but its not the word Hell

:^)

[scarlet ether]

wouldn't Hades or the Underworld be simpler though

and not strictly hell lol

[errant burrow]

I'm still expecting it to be most likely stupid pun name rather than anything pre-existing

there will be awful names and there will be Heydeez nuts

[quaint osprey]

i mean redgar is just jp name that they left in

went to check to make sure

[errant burrow]

it's also a dumb pun

[noble lynx]

if HAL goes just "Hades" and "Underworld" they'll still need to find an english equivalent

[errant burrow]

the pun is that lava is red and there are animals that growl

geddit?

[noble lynx]

no

[scarlet ether]

I mean in Japanese it'll probably be Yomi lol

[cloud pasture]

(They'll just literally translate it as Yellow Fountain)

Yellow Spring I mean

Nah they'd go with Fountain

[noble lynx]

why

why would they call it fountain

[vital seal]

the ||Piss|| Fountain

[dull geode]

Wasn't it also taken out of Clash and Forgotten Land?

I don't think it's censorship but idk what it is LMAO

[cloud pasture]

They'd totally do it

[dull geode]

Maybe they just think its funny

[stark ravine]

obligatory joke

[noble lynx]

no as in why would they even say fountain

[cloud pasture]

I dunno, I feel like they'd translate it as Fountain instead lmfao

For like 0 reasons

And we'd wonder why they went with that

[noble lynx]

????????

[scarlet ether]

the kanji in 黄泉 ('yomi') are literally 'Yellow Spring'
so if they were dumb and did not look at context

[noble lynx]

Thank you for the actual reason

[bleak geyser]

im suprised japan hasnt had a magoland trailer yet

[noble lynx]

its called twitter

[scarlet ether]

Europe hasn't either

advertising for this game (especially outside of Japan) has not been the best lol

[mighty breach]

Magoland is only going to open in America

[vital seal]

advertisement team is drunk

[quaint osprey]

i dont think either referenced it to begin with but im not 100% expert on morpho knight lore

[cloud pasture]

Oh yeah forgot to clarify 😭

[dull geode]

Yeah underworld wasnt mentioned in either description in FL

Idk about the clash weapons lmao

[quaint osprey]

well lets see if wikirby can help us

well they dont mention jp descriptions le sad

[dull geode]

Cryinge

[quaint osprey]

armor mentions "batterfly of paradise" and the second one calls morpho as "knight of doom" for all its worth

in english descs

[scarlet ether]

黄泉の騎士 ('Knight of Yomi') is mentioned in Japanese description for the armor, in English it is "Knight of Doom" yeah

[noble lynx]

ofc its christians smh

So its not even like Hell Hell it might just be Paradise

[scarlet ether]

it isn't really a paradise, but it isn't hell

[noble lynx]

Thaaaaaaaaats death!

[cloud pasture]

||Imagine the Story Mode credits now has the butterfly in parts of it too (like how Landia & Lor are seen) and it starts glowing at the end lol||

[dull geode]

Bubberflt

[noble lynx]

what if tehy just call it Dead Land

Magolor's Return from Dead Land

[quaint osprey]

corny as hell but at least gets to the point

[scarlet ether]

eh, sounds too scary

[cloud pasture]

They'll call it Lost Land

[noble lynx]

LOST PARADISE

MAGOLOR'S RETURN FROM LOST PARADISE

Lost is the perfect word for this

[cloud pasture]

I feel like the ending scene of this mode will be called Magolor's Return to Dream Land

[noble lynx]

He lost, the life was lost, this is were people go when they lose their life but it doesnt explicitly say the word dead, it conveys the idea, and i liking this word instantly

[cloud pasture]

I'm glad u like it lol

Lost is a cool word

[scarlet ether]

well there is a lot of Lor-like stuff (and Lor means paradise) lol

[noble lynx]

alternatively

they cuold call it Last Paradise

or if they wanna go cheeky and reference Rianbow resort for no reason... Last Resort, but thats too cheasy

but i can see it

[placid nacelle]

I will say “bravo Kumazaki” if Dark Nebula is actually the ruler of the underworld

[vital seal]

Dark Nebula is going to return and he just gets one shot

[scarlet ether]

well in Japanese he's just the ruler of darkness
so I doubt he'll show up

(if he does it'll be because he's 'dead')

[dense ginkgo]

a dark nebula fight in a modern game sounds so awesome

[mellow snow]

They’ll remix the Squeak Squad theme again for his boss fight

[quaint osprey]

fking imagine they do unironically bring back dark nebula and give it redemption arc of the century (actually badass boss fight)

...yeah this will probably stay right in my imagination

[vital seal]

i think it would be cool for them to just drop ||"oh btw because we are in hades now you have to fight these old kirby final bosses that got send here"|| but i know that they wont pull that, like there's no way they would like do that.

[cloud pasture]

Me when「暗黒の支配者」"Ruler of Darkness"

[cloud pasture]

It's not like they've done this before, ||Meta Knightmare Returns lol||

[mighty breach]

I'm not sure if they'd go THAT far

[scarlet ether]

even if they didn't do it in this mode, they could do it somewhere else and use Dimension Holes/space-time shenanigans as an excuse

[vital seal]

i just want ||Drawcia|| back and Kumazaki would have good excuse to do that now

[cloud pasture]

Tbh it wouldn't really surprise me tho

[scarlet ether]

give me the 'Climax Battle Colosseum' or something

[cloud pasture]

||Me when you fight Paradise Drawcia & Paradise Marx ||

[dense ginkgo]

||whats the point of it being in hades if there no past villain tbh||

[quaint osprey]

dont forget

its THE 30th anniversary game

[mighty breach]

If Dark Mind can get King D-Mind then Dark Nebula can get something too

[quaint osprey]

masks moment

i still wont believe it until i see it

but i think its a possibility

[mighty breach]

plot twist, they pull dark crafter instead

[dense ginkgo]

yes!

also kirby will go that far. he has done blood.

[mighty breach]

Although I still to this day wonder what the heck is King D-Mind supposed to be
What is this man's lore

[vital seal]

dark crafter has a freaking banger of a final boss theme, too bad it's just kinda meh fight

[cloud pasture]

||Dark Z-Knight||

[cloud pasture]

||He, similar to Dark Mind, is the manifestation of the evil minds the Black Mirror reflected, although this time specifically Dark Taranza's mind. It was his image of a fierce warrior (Dedede), who happened to resemble the Dream Kingdom's king. Of course, because Dark Taranza used his evil mind to create this warrior, Dark Mind was in that body||

[mighty breach]

And what's up with Parallel Susie using its insignia?

[mighty breach]

ibf the butterfly goes

||it was nebula all along||

[cloud pasture]

Taranza's wish of seeing Sectonia again (which the Black Mirror reflected) caused the balance of worlds to collapse, and that game's parallel characters were born.

[mighty breach]

So the parallel characters aren't really from parallel dimensions?

[cloud pasture]

Kumazaki: The backstory emerged from the Another Dimension Road that was in “Kirby of the Stars Wii”. What connected to Another Dimension was the power of the magic-possessing "Distorted Black Dimension Mirror" which Taranza used, and consequently the balance of the worlds collapses, resulting in Another (Parallel) Susie and the others being summoned. As a result of Taranza’s desire to revive Queen Sectonia using that Distorted Mirror, Another (Parallel) versions of past bosses are born one after the other, and in the end, as he loses control, even Taranza’s own alter-ego/offshoot (分身), Dark Taranza, is born.
SOURCE: https://www.tumblr.com/syzekrom/683692319792414720/深く作ってシンプルにまとめた物語

[cloud pasture]

They still are.

It's just the ones from Team Kirby Clash Deluxe are also a product of the Black Mirror.

[mighty breach]

how tf can a mirror do all of this

[cloud pasture]

While Parallel Dedede & Parallel Meta Knight are born from the thoughts their respective Jamba Hearts carried
Parallel Woods & Parallel Kracko are made from the thoughts of the many times Whispys & Krackos have fallen
Parallel Nightmare's unconfirmed, but IMO he was probably born from Nightmare's thoughts in the Dreamscape
Pres. Parallel Susie might be Susie's thoughts? Or Parallel Susie's thoughts????

[mighty breach]

bro can summon dark characters, shadow characters, parallel characters

[mellow snow]

Me when I look in the mirror to brush my teeth but I end up summoning the Parallel Mage Sisters instead

[cloud pasture]

Yeahhh, Dimension Mirror's OP

[mighty breach]

So this "parallel dimension" and whatever characters can exist on it is completely made of bad thoughts?

[cloud pasture]

Dimension Mirror reflected your wishes originally, then it reflected the evil/negative aspects of your mind (which birth to the Shadow/Dark/Black characters), and those evil thoughts gather to birth Dark Mind.
Of course, it also teleports you to different spaces as we see in Amazing Mirror & Triple Deluxe, with Kirby Fighters & Kirby Clash series implying a connection to Another Dimension.

[cloud pasture]

The Parallel Bosses are not all in the same dimension.

They're in different dimensions.

The ones from Star Allies appear in Dimensions I-IV respectively

Parallel Nightmare presumably was born from Dreamscape due to how similar it is to the Fountain of Dreams

[mighty breach]

I swear to god if they come up with perpendicular dimensions next

[cloud pasture]

Parallel Landia might've been born in Decisive Battlefield? We don't see it emerge from a Dimensional Tear, unlike the others

[scarlet ether]

mentioning Dimension Holes, why does Super Clash have three different ones
what do the different designs mean lmao

[noble lynx]

i mean its the World of Darkness

[cloud pasture]

Ikr haha

[spark forge]

||Fatty Puffer deserves HELL||

[cloud pasture]

Parallel Susie & Pres. Parallel Susie come from Planet Robobot-styled ones.
King D-Mind comes from a Heroes in Another Dimension-styled one.
Aeon Hero comes from a Guest Star-styled one.

[scarlet ether]

||if you see Yomi that way, sure, but even then why not have stuff like Zero appear there at that point lol||

[lofty slate]

How Mr Krabs would say certain character names from rtdl:
“Mageler”
“Landier”
“Fatty Puffy” (Mr krabs calls mrs puff puffy lol)

[cloud pasture]

||If Zero appears in Yomi that'd be crazy||

[scarlet ether]

||well he is dead lol||

[cloud pasture]

true

[lofty slate]

Oh yeah and also “Galacter Knight”

[cloud pasture]

||Still, it'd be crazy to actually see the guy after all those years||

[noble lynx]

ngl Dark Nebula showing up would be hella amazing especially with Modern Standards of Battles

[mighty breach]

maybe king D-Mind comes from a different one since he originally comes from inside the mirror in the deluxe game?

For galacta I assume that's a special portal that leads to the gbj dimension

[scarlet ether]

yeah, I'd rather them do something like a 'Climax Battle Colosseum' outside the mode though
put stuff like Marx and Nightmare there too

I wanna fight them all again

[mighty breach]

Dark Nebula actually being the "Ruler of the Underworld" and kicking ass unironically would be awesome

[noble lynx]

the Rainbow Rocket (Pokemon) for the Kirby series

[lofty slate]

Can’t wait until ||Mr Krabs Soul OS shows up to defeat magolor in the epilogue ||

[noble lynx]

i dot get this joke

[lofty slate]

President Haltmann

[mighty breach]

Money

[lofty slate]

Battle for the most money

[cloud pasture]

Kirby fans when the new Dark Nebula theme's called「闇の煌めき星」(Yami no Kirameki-Boshi) "Dark Sparkling Star"

[noble lynx]

i mean that explains the motif

[cloud pasture]

Yea

Well I used kirameki

not kirakira

Kirameki is the AB Void one

[noble lynx]

Hmm now my brain is making me remember that i hard a good dark nebula remix and now i want to find it

[cloud pasture]

kirakira's the collectibles from SB

[noble lynx]

SB?

[cloud pasture]

Nightmare & Marx wouldn't be too hard to make actual battles due to SKC & KSA assets

[cloud pasture]

Spring Breeze

[noble lynx]

ah

[cloud pasture]

Sorry, forgot there's lots of SB abbreviations

Smash Bros ‼️

[noble lynx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZAMymzaJUI

[scarlet ether]

yeah
those two were also a part of the 'Kirby Finale Battle Fest' in the Music Fest

[cloud pasture]

Heheh the way Marx cut Nightmare's theme off there 😭

[scarlet ether]

so I think it'd be funny if they brought them and some other bosses back lol

[errant perch]

And he finally gets the rematch he deserves after 17 years

[dull geode]

these are things you arent supposed to think about

[cloud pasture]

They are 👁️

[dull geode]

kumazaki cooked up a mysterious concoction and even he didnt know what it was

[cloud pasture]

Well Parallel Susie was born thanks to the Black Mirror, so that's def why

[dull geode]

mhm yes the dimens- oh im sorry the black mirror broke the balance of the space-time continuum by being used and that caused Susie 2 and 3 to appear

thats what the funny guy said

[cloud pasture]

Well the full name of the Black Mirror's the Distorted Black Dimension Mirror

Also Susie 3 doesn't have a connection to it

She has more connections to Dreamscape

[dull geode]

could have just said "mirror made her" but nope. "mirror broke reality so she appeared" okay but how how how how how how

[cloud pasture]

well both the mirror made her and it broke reality

when Taranza's wish of resurrecting Sectonia breaks reality

Typical moment for Taranza

[dull geode]

im pretty sure they only said the mirror messed up space-time iirc

[cloud pasture]

No

I posted the quote earlier, wait

[cloud pasture]

.

"Another (Parallel) versions of past bosses are born one after the other"

"consequently the balance of the worlds collapses, resulting in Another (Parallel) Susie and the others being summoned"

I'm assuming that it's similar to how the Jamba Heart made Parallel Bosses ig

[dull geode]

"summoned" and then "born" KUMAZAKI MAKE A DECISION

[cloud pasture]

HE DOES DO THE SAME THING WITH D-MIND

[dull geode]

clash really is where he vents out his wackiest ideas

[cloud pasture]

I think summoned just means to this world

Like, the Black Mirror created them, but then they also got summoned there

[dull geode]

im not going to question Parallel Busie being born from the mirror but not coming from it

[cloud pasture]

Well Jamba Hearts created Parallel Bosses but they didn't come from it either

[placid quail]

if it created them then they came from it

[dull geode]

mirror world (we should break it)

[dull geode]

SA 🤝 Clash

Kracko once again being the goat and existing in some place for no reason other than to be a hater

mirror world and parallel

hating to the Nth degree

[vital seal]

wasn't parallel kracko created from the jamba heart

[cloud pasture]

No

Parallel Woods & Parallel Kracko were born from the thoughts/tears of the fallen Woods & Krackos

or whatever

[dull geode]

kracko never ate the heart so it was literally just incredible hater energy spread across the cosmos

its dumb

[errant perch]

<— full of clumsiness

[dull geode]

why didnt they just use pon and con who were actually a part of the cult lmao at least they could have had some deniability

"they didnt eat a heart but they were a part of the cult!!" easy there instead they got nothing LMAO

[cloud pasture]

SUSIE 2.0 SPECIAL PAGE (PLANET ROBOBOT)
時がたち、何を思い、ふたたびカンパニーに もぐりこんだので あろうか。
One wonders, as time has passed, what she is thinking, infiltrating the company again.

HALTONIUM HELM DESCRIPTION (TEAM KIRBY CLASH DELUXE)
きらめく かみかざり にはある人の 思いがこめられている。
The glittering gold-plated hair ornament contains the thoughts of a certain person.

よく見ると、大切な髪かざりがありませんわね。
If you look closely, you will notice that my precious hair clip is missing.
SOURCE: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/jlkj/special/vol8.html

hmmmmmmmmmm

thoughts

hairclip

Parallel Susie has no hairclip

Parallel Bosses are associated with thoughts

[dull geode]

ah shit she done lost her clip in the space time continuum 💀 💀

[cloud pasture]

also in TKCD website (her comment to Parallel Susie not having it)

[worn bridge]

What is he cooking

[dull geode]

hmmmmmmmm Elfilis made the phantom bosses with his thoughts hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

his thoughts openned portals hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[cloud pasture]

The hairclip with the letter H she lost while traveling in Another Dimension, which is why she never has the hairclip with H on in her actual design 😱

And that lost hairclip formed Parallel Susie ‼️ 😱

[dull geode]

why doesnt she have it then 🤨

[cloud pasture]

Because she formed from it ‼️

[dull geode]

i will poof Parallel Susie like a gem from steven universe and take the clip

[placid quail]

or it was an oversight and we're meant to assume the jamba hearts in the FFSH boss fights are corrupting the bosses

[cloud pasture]

They don't mention the Jamba Hearts during Parallel Woods & Parallel Kracko descriptions though?

They're all formed from thoughts, but Dedede & Meta Knight's thoughts only landed there because of the Jamba Heart

[placid quail]

we can assume based on P. Dedede and P. Meta Knight that P. Woods and P. Kracko were formed by the jamba hearts controlling them

[cloud pasture]

wait, if the Jamba Heart absorbs thoughts, what if it absorbed the remaining thoughts of Zero and whatnot

which is why Void does

[placid quail]

zero isnt in the game?

[cloud pasture]

I didn't mean Zero itself

But like the "remains" or whatever in space

[placid quail]

if i had to explain that, hyness exposed the jamba heart to dark matter some point after he lost his marbles

[dull geode]

jamba heart seven hundren light years away from Zero psychically connecting with him on an astral level

[cloud pasture]

There's like 10000 billion Jamba Hearts that fell

[worn bridge]

Nah. Probably moreso because Hyness worshipped Dark Matter and probably Zero as well

[cloud pasture]

And Kumazaki did say the faces come from the darkness the Jamba Heart has

or whatever

the darkness the dark hearts gathered or whatever I forgor 😭

[scarlet ether]

could also partially be from Hyness for the Story Mode Void Termina

[placid quail]

he says that he has some unexplained power (or in the english version, is the master of dark matter). Him being the one controlling dark matter is unlkely, but having it to expose to the jamba heart makes sense

[worn bridge]

Interestingly this points heavily in favor of dark mind being related to dark matter

[dull geode]

i have a theory that i partially believe in that the Jamba Heart's darkness that was spread through the universe before it was sealed became Zero and Zero Two, and thats why their specific arenas appear at the Divine Terminus during HIAD

[scarlet ether]

and The Three Mage Sisters

[cloud pasture]

Truetrue, he does worship Dark Matter

well no

not Dark Matter

but dark matter

[scarlet ether]

dark substance(s)

[placid quail]

wasnt that confirmed in an artbook

that predated star allies

[dull geode]

that was dark nebula

[cloud pasture]

the funny

[dull geode]

funnily enough

[placid quail]

didnt it also say dark nebula was a dark amtter

[dull geode]

it was him

[placid quail]

wasnt dark mind also there

[cloud pasture]

They only listed beings similar to the Dark Matter family

[worn bridge]

It wasn't even a confirmation either. Only that they were similar

[cloud pasture]

If we wanna be exact, the only confirmed members are Gooey, Dark Matter and Zero

[dull geode]

that art book is hysterical

[placid quail]

isnt dark nebula called dark 0 in japan

[cloud pasture]

0² and Dark Nebula were listed as one of the beings similar to Dark Matter family

but they said the relation was never stated

which is true

[placid quail]

but since 02 is 0

[cloud pasture]

Not confirmed

Funny enough

[scarlet ether]

no
it might be formed from dark substances, but there is no confirmation that Dark Nebula is from the Dark Matter clan/family

[placid quail]

we can assume dark nebula is dark matter

[placid quail]

it is in the name

[cloud pasture]

Not confirmed either way

[dull geode]

"ermmmmm they could be connected ermmmmmmmmm maybe" thanks so much Kumazaki i couldnt gather this myself by the eyes and the Dark and the possession

[cloud pasture]

Unironically, they stated "0² and Dark Zero have similar characteristics, but their true nature and relation is unknown"

paraphrase lol

[dull geode]

ooooooooooooo mysterious

dark nebula the most riveting character in the kirby pantheon

[scarlet ether]

not even Dark Rimuru, Dark Rimura, and Dark Rimuro are confirmed to be apart of the Dark Matter clan/family lol

[dense ginkgo]

fans will never agree on 0 and ado lol

[worn bridge]

Okay that's just
Dumb

We see them coming out of the cloud

[scarlet ether]

despite being dark orbs with eyes that come from a dark cloud and possess stuff

[dense ginkgo]

but rtdldx will finally give us the answer

[cloud pasture]

I mean, if those three were confirmed, then that'd also essentially confirm 0² as well as a part of that

[dull geode]

weellllllll we dont know if its a dark matter cloud

i see black clouds in the sky some times

[cloud pasture]

the funny

[dull geode]

the correct chart

[worn bridge]

Where's Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Dark Matter

[cloud pasture]

FUCK

[dull geode]

wtf is the purple one

mass attack only character

[spark forge]

where's the video game Dark Matter

[worn bridge]

Where's Goku

[cloud pasture]

Real Dark Matter (Kirby's Dream Land 2)

now THIS one I can post on reddit and get 1000 upvotes

[vague vector]

erm here is your reddit gold sir 🤓

[dull geode]

SO MANY VOIDS

[vague vector]

[worn bridge]

Where's kirby

You forgot the kirby

[cloud pasture]

ah hell nah you're right how dare i

[worn bridge]

That leads I to the meta knight and valacta knight

[vague vector]

exactly! I thought that everyone knew that kirby was actually void

also you need to put the fact that meta knight and kirby are brothers from space

Which means that META KNIGHT IS DARK MATTER

[cloud pasture]

oh yeah

I should finish my Magolor relation chart for RTDX

[mellow snow]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-dog-question-mark-i-love-silly-man-gif-25052497

[cloud pasture]

I really should update this lmfao

[worn bridge]

Mahoroa

[scarlet ether]

these guys

[dull geode]

emulator version theyre so naked

[spark forge]

i like the

"Maybe"

[cloud pasture]

https://media.giphy.com/media/k7YFhWYQi6tt7FPcOR/giphy.gif

Dark Trio Sweep

[cloud pasture]

Which one

[dull geode]

these guys made the whole plot happen with the mcguffins you have to get and dont appear past world 1

[spark forge]

yea they were just chumps

[cloud pasture]

You see them when Dark Star goes kaboom

[mellow snow]

I know them lol, I was mainly talking about how ambiguous they were being about their relationship with the clan

But yeah I don’t know why they’re so secretive when it’s obvious as fuck

[scarlet ether]

yeah lmao

[dull geode]

i think they just forgot about them

[cloud pasture]

It's really weird how the clouds didn't appear in any other levels

[dull geode]

cause like who wouldnt i cant even spell their names by heart

[scarlet ether]

or maybe they really aren't apart of the clan or some shit and they don't wanna say

[cloud pasture]

Like, they just appear in Popstar & Ripple Star 😭

All other bosses are just assholes

Hell Whispy Woods isn't even shown to be possessed either

he just makes babies and gets mad when u kill them

[scarlet ether]

I mean they probably didn't know where Kirby and everyone were or how to get to them

[cloud pasture]

True

[scarlet ether]

just three of them followed Ribbon to Pop Star

[cloud pasture]

Imagine if HR-H was like a sleeping robot that got possessed lol

wait no that's just Zelda

[dense ginkgo]

ok but he wasnt possessed

[cloud pasture]

Yea HR-H was just chilling

None of the bosses were possessed lol

[dense ginkgo]

true

[cloud pasture]

I just find it weird in retrospect

[mellow snow]

As a kid I always thought Magman was just the Dark Matter Trio possessing lava lmao

[cloud pasture]

😭

It'd have gone hard if they did this the entire game then became Miracle Matter in Ripple Star

[mellow snow]

Magman is such a stupid ass design lol I love him

[cloud pasture]

Like some crazy fusion

[dull geode]

pyribbit but awesome

[cloud pasture]

TRUE

||Ok but if Zero appears in Yomi/Hades ||

[dull geode]

i eat him like jelly donut

and i dont even like jelly donuts

[cloud pasture]

||ok that Scope Shot 0² idea's awesome||

WAIT

IMAGINE

THEY REUSE

😭

THAT'D BE SO FUNNY

[dull geode]

creature

oh hey there are the funny dark star platforms

[cloud pasture]

||Yeah, the orb even has those barcode things ||

[dull geode]

love hexagons with a circle the middle

[cloud pasture]

||do those on angels have an actual name||

[placid nacelle]

The Boss is Gobbler and the following area takes place inside Fatty Whale

[noble lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/idont-get-it-kirby-gif-11298261

[placid nacelle]

Omori Brain rot

[cloud pasture]

air conditioning

[dull geode]

that level is BUNS

so LOOOOONG

[cloud pasture]

Fatty Whale definitely loves air conditioning

[placid nacelle]

During it you will get Dedede, Bandee, and Meta Knight to quit their jobs. Kirby is still missing and they draw him as

[austere yacht]

Wait was there another leak

[cloud pasture]

Not yet

[dull geode]

patiently awaiting nintendo direct only for the announcement of this

anything else is the cherry on top this is what my expectations are

just to see this thing

i really hope we see enough to be able to deduce where he is lmao

and hopefully a galacta teaser ermmm

[cloud pasture]

My head would blast if Scope Shot's a secret unlockable

[dull geode]

if we see a second boss that is a demon then yeah its safe to say its some spirit hell world lmao

[cloud pasture]

||And if JP trailer uses yomi||

[mellow snow]

God I’m hoping the direct isn’t on Thursday lol

So faaarrrrr

[dull geode]

direct today

[broken smelt]

I hope the direct isn’t during class in my time zone 😭

[dull geode]

teehee

[cloud pasture]

It's probs gonna be at 12am for me again like always 😭

Well that's not so bad tbf

[dull geode]

as long as its in the morning but not on wednesday im good

wednesday would be evil literally the one day i have class and its two lmaooo

[tawdry cairn]

They're usually in the afternoon (est) at 5 pm but the last one was weird bc it was at 10 am est instead

[mellow snow]

I don’t have any classes on Tuesday and Thursday so I should be lucky for once

[dull geode]

Worst possible time I declare that it will not be at this time

[worn bridge]

Oh JESUS

[mellow snow]

Oh my goodness gracious

[cloud pasture]

what happened

[broken smelt]

||what do the funny barcodes mean I wonder||

They probably just mean dark matter I shouldn’t think about it

[cloud pasture]

||It's like 99% inspired by this if you ask me||

[broken smelt]

Oh yeahhh

Probably tbh

[cloud pasture]

||funny angelic theming||

[broken smelt]

||zero 2 is fairy/dark type||

[cloud pasture]

||So that's why he possessed Ripple Queen||

[spark forge]

where do any of you see barcodes

[quaint osprey]

praying its like this again cuz i dont want to stay up late for kirby trailer and i probably will 💔

timezones stink

[cloud pasture]

||Oh it's just a jokename for the ones in the 0² fight||

[mighty breach]

me working as a cashier when I have to scan the zero2 barcodes

[broken smelt]

The cost is an impossible number

[mighty breach]

38 cents

[broken smelt]

Underwhelming

[dull geode]

Sorry but unfortunately no

[broken smelt]

My sleep schedule when anything Kirby related drops

[worn bridge]

Sleep is for the weak

[dull geode]

I remember seeing this on YouTube for the first time and thinking Ribbon was Chuchu cause I didn't see anything else from 64

[hoary oar]

Do you mean to avenge them against the queen who rules over everything?
This is how I have it translated in my doc

[hoary oar]

I always suspected that NOA holds a tighter leash on console releases than handheld

But could also be that since SA has more things overtly mature than 3DX they felt like they needed to strike a balance

[placid nacelle]

What’s the pun in Redgar?

[errant burrow]

lava is red, animals growl "gar"

that's it

[hoary oar]

Because that's what Yomi (Hades/Underworld) means literally, Yellow Springs/Fountain

Oh Ultrby already mentioned that

[hoary oar]

I do think it'd be funny if Dark Nebula returns and they emphasize his title again

Since he's funny 支配者 like Magolor

[hoary oar]

For the record the texture for them in Star Allies is literally called barcode

[errant burrow]

if you scan them you get 30% off 02

01.4

[worn bridge]

Oh my god

[cloud pasture]

TRUE

[cloud pasture]

HAHAHA

[glass juniper]

where's this from

[scarlet ether]

Kirby Planet Robobot concept art
was in Art & Style Collection

[mighty breach]

god please I need this

[quaint osprey]

I still feel like this idea for climax is perfect

[errant perch]

I remember someone else brought up the idea of Papi betraying magolor so he can be put through the same pain he put others through which I really like as a concept

[quaint osprey]

Magolor tasting his own medicine and actually taking away something from the experience

[mighty breach]

"huh maybe betraying people isn't that good actually"

[broken smelt]

lmao

i really hope papi is his guide in this mode

[dull geode]

Galacta as a twist guide cause he wants freedom (he communicates with Magolor through uhhhhhhhhhhhhh brainwaves)

i wonder if he'll have a guide. Im not sure how he'd know how to escape AD or wherever on his own with no help

unless he's studied enough to know advanced AD escape maneuvers

i could imagine some disembodied voice talking to him guiding him through what to do

[quaint osprey]

Magolor Frontiers

[dull geode]

and then at the end its revealed to be The End from sonic frontiers and its a crossover

ok but actually at the end its revealed to be the Lor maybe idk

or someone who will betray him for whatever reason. like Galacta for freedom from crystal time jail

[quaint osprey]

I doubt Magolor will have 0 guidance, especially if he will talk

Like I can't picture him talking to himself all the time

[scarlet ether]

what would make a good guide (other than a butterfly)?

[dull geode]

theres a few routes i can see it taking with literally no information. First route is Magolor is trying to get the crown pieces back so he can get revenge, escaping is a second thought hes just trekking around to get POWER

and that goes bad cause ermmmm crown is evil

other route is ah shit he wants to leave and some guy helps him out for their own benefit in a plot twist

and Magolor is like "wow being taken advantage of at my lowest actually feels really bad I WANT TO LIVE!!"

[quaint osprey]

I think Lor's soul can work (initially not being known that it's Lor's soul)

[dull geode]

Lor soul, Galacta, or a secret third thing

[scarlet ether]

like for a completely new character if they go that route

[quaint osprey]

Hard to tell in the moment tbh

[dull geode]

uhhhhhhhhhhh king doomer the biggest baddest doomer who is very smart and wants to EAT people who come into AD hes very hungry

[quaint osprey]

It would be easier to predict if we knew more about story's direction or setting

[scarlet ether]

could a bird-like being work too? I would assume they'd go for something soul/spirit-like at least

[quaint osprey]

If it's visible and accompanies us, then it should be some sort of floating creature for sure

[dull geode]

Bofalin

if only we had some kind of video that gave us information on this subject matter

preferably giving us the information we want in a direct manner

[quaint osprey]

We all clamor for direct trailer but are we aware that we won't survive it

Like we watch it and we just perish instantly

[dull geode]

that trailer is going to have a png of the render and thats all we're gonna have to cook with (we've already been cooking with it and its burnt)

[quaint osprey]

Just like Magolor's outfit

Fitting

[errant perch]

A phoenix, since they’re fiery and associated with life, death and rebirth

[scarlet ether]

oh that could work

[quaint osprey]

That would be raw

[dull geode]

imagine they want the mind explosion arc and just introduced some other secret boss archetype out of nowhere lmfao

[quaint osprey]

Good

[scarlet ether]

was thinking about maybe they could do a phoenix-like boss (like Grand Doomer equivalent), but for a guide it could work too

[quaint osprey]

This where we get King archetype boss fight introduced

[errant perch]

Also either owls or corvids are also associated with death depending on which culture we’re looking from

[quaint osprey]

I was joking while typing that but king of the underworld would unironically fit

[dull geode]

we fight the king of AD and they're a member of Elfilis's species 🤯

[mighty breach]

Bad ending, you didn't collect enough thingies, Magolor didn't learn his lesson, exits hell as the biggest hypocrite on earth (and beyond)

[mellow snow]

More people to scam, yay!

[mighty breach]

what being bored and having ms paint in front does to a mf

[dull geode]

made this joke before but i cant wait for the Japanese title to come out and its like ||Magolor Epilogue: Traveler of the Underworld||

and we just got Interdimensional Traveler

[errant perch]

WAIT, how about having the heads of all 3 like an avian Cerberus as the king of hades, that would be raw

[mighty breach]

I think they will save the Cerberus thing for hell landia

[dull geode]

if it really does take place in the funny place and that was reflected in the japanese title but not ours id laugh

[errant perch]

I mean, I guess it wouldn’t be too unreasonable to have more than one multi-headed character

[tawdry cairn]

i think either way, if this really is in ||hades|| the localizers would try to avoid it

[dull geode]

i do really hope the trailer can make it clear if its Hades or not so the speculation can evolve lmao

surely we will learn something substantial. I can't imagine them not at least talking about the mechanics

[mighty breach]

best timeline possible they translate Hades to Heck

welcome to the hecklands

[scarlet ether]

wonder if they'll reference the dragon from the Canvas Curse concept art

[hoary oar]

They will translate Yomi to "The Underground" and it will make -9000 sense

[mighty breach]

undertale will be real

[errant perch]

If it is officially confirmed to be in hades I guarantee you the rtdl dx channels, and maybe the entire server, will explode

[scarlet ether]

I think they'll probably call it either ||Hades or Underworld||

[dull geode]

Doom Land lmfao

[hoary oar]

Ok but what if they try to be consisten with their translation of SA and SKC and call it like "The Land of Doom" or some shit

[tawdry cairn]

true, just like how they did in the multiple games that have had lines about them in japanese

[hoary oar]

Wtf ampether

[dull geode]

doom on the brain

doomers in doom land

[scarlet ether]

||they've done Underworld before, and Hades is pretty tame||

[dull geode]

imagine localizers have been playing 4d chess with Doomers and the doom localization

[cloud pasture]

The End Nil

[dull geode]

void real final boss (they do the exact same fight)

[cloud pasture]

Nah see

instead of Nil

you'll fight

Ende Zero

[dull geode]

[cloud pasture]

Ende Null

[dull geode]

the japanese subtitle for this mode is going to be completely different somehow thats my read

[hoary oar]

No fuck you you're going to fight a pink zero named Rosé (It's Zero backwards in Jp)

[cloud pasture]

No way

Mirror World Zero ‼️‼️

You see Rose create Dark Minds

[dull geode]

Magolor was sent to the mirror world via an interdimensional tunnel!!!!!! what a dream mode!

[mighty breach]

King 0-Mind enters the stage:

[hoary oar]

No way HR-D0

(D0 stands for Dark Zero)

[tawdry cairn]

HR-D00

[mighty breach]

giant robot waddle DOO

[tawdry cairn]

[dull geode]

this is where they move HR-D3

[hoary oar]

Wait no

HR-D30

[tawdry cairn]

give us a ||hell|| version of this guy

[mighty breach]

hair becomes a horn

that's it

[dull geode]

doo of sauron

[cloud pasture]

Kumazaki when he makes 10000 Dark OCs of Dedede

King D-Mind, now HR-D30

[hoary oar]

It's a combination of D3 being Dedede, D0 being Dark Zero, and 30th anniversary game

[dull geode]

wait water galboros will just become flame galboros

[mighty breach]

No it becomes water girlboss

[dull geode]

HOW

[errant perch]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-poopm-peem-gaming-enemy-gif-16502341

[hoary oar]

Why is this an image what does it mean

[mighty breach]

fail boat

[hoary oar]

oh

[dull geode]

when the beam is attack

me sitting here watching as the fandom turns to hating beam attack as much as christian kirby

[placid quail]

It became overplayed

Also who suggested a 3 headed phoenix cerberus as an idea

[errant perch]

Yours truly

[placid quail]

Isn’t Morbpho already a phoenix?
But anyways good idea

[scarlet ether]

not really, he's just a butterfly

he does have fire elements though at least

[placid quail]

Isn’t the sword a phoenix feather and some translations call it the dreambird?

[scarlet ether]

it is feather-like
but nothing really specifically suggests phoenix

[placid quail]

The feather + the fire

[scarlet ether]

I mean there's no real sun or ash association
or rebirth

[hoary oar]

The sword looks like a Doomer's feather but that connection hasn't ever been officially hinted at

Doesn't even look like a feather directly itself anyway

[placid quail]

What role do you think this underworld king thing would play

[errant perch]

Idk specifically , probably just oversees everything and prevents souls from escaping or something

It was just kinda a neat concept I threw out there

[placid quail]

I tried mentioning it once

[errant perch]

What do underworld rulers typically do anyways?

[placid quail]

Casual guide souls to afterlife

I mentioned it before but what if it’s based on divine comedy inferno (the mode)

[junior copper]

Does anyone know what the Japanese ending of squeak squad say? I’m saying this here because in the English ending of squeak squad it says dark nebula is the ruler of the underworld

If it’s the same in both then holy shit dark nebula return!?

[hoary oar]

Lol octav

[scarlet ether]

it's the 暗黒の支配者 ('Ruler of Darkness') in JP

so nothing to do with underworld (or Yomi)

[dull geode]

Well if you change all the letters in Darkness and add two more letters then it becomes underworld so there's a chance

[hoary oar]

Virgin Dark nebula will return bc english says he’s the lord of the underworld
Chad Dark nebula will return bc he uses 支配者 like Magolor

[scarlet ether]

he will return.....as the 暗黒の支配人 ('Manager of Darkness')
he will make his own theme park

[placid quail]

Morpho is STILL a more valid claim to the throne than this loser

[wheat urchin]

i still wanna cling onto ||gcn warlock|| being the ruler and morpho just being cerberus

[placid quail]

ehh
IMO elements of GCN Warlock could be used for a "spirit of the crown" boss

given how some of the rings on gcn warlock looked like rings on magolor soul

[junior copper]

I would kill for warlock

[junior copper]

Thanks!

[harsh tide]

Am I the only one who’s more excited for leaks about the masks then I am about the Magolor epilogue? I just wanna see how deep the cuts get

[junior copper]

Fair enough

We already have a bunch of really sick deep cuts

[harsh tide]

Yeah, the fact they referenced Mine and Pick… what else is in there?

[vivid niche]

gray coo

[vague vector]

Me

I'm in RtDLDX

Kumazaki is my last name i have proof

The proof: ||||

[junior copper]

[harsh tide]

Will they go as far as like Gryll? There’s a chance!

And what’s really fun is it seems some of them change the “voices”

Or maybe sound effects

[quaint osprey]

well gryll is actually likelier than most if only because she technically has a 3d model

[austere yacht]

Where

[quaint osprey]

stone statue in star allies

just give it a colored texture and here you go

[austere yacht]

Oh right

[harsh tide]

That’s right, her and brobo

[errant perch]

Vul also has a stone statue in ksa where he’s posing with mk so there’s another

Also Joronia if they really wanted to clothesline us with references

[quaint osprey]

joronia unironically has more chances than either vul or gryll

purely because by technicality she has more relevance

[dull geode]

i would have a brain blast if they acknowledged Joronia officially and made it real through a mask

sections wack ass lore coming to us through a bot name in an eshop spin off and a mask in a remake

[echo mesa]

Would be an easy way to distinguish between the spider and wasp forms

Without having to do Sectonia (spider)

[quaint osprey]

yeah

i mean if anything it would be more sensible reason why joronia reference was even in dream buffet to begin with lowkey

because it almost certainly was developed (and finished its development) while rtdl dx was still in the makings

and probably when masks were already decided

[dull geode]

direct announcement where are you

give me the trailer NOW

[quaint osprey]

doesnt

hehehee

[hoary oar]

God fuck a trailer I just need a DEMO

I think I will legit go insane even if we get a trailer if there's no demo

[junior copper]

Pls be 60 fps

[hoary oar]

The trailer footage is 60fps

[dense ginkgo]

gamers when the games not 60fps

[dull geode]

trailer is 60fps game is 20

[junior copper]

[errant perch]

An open demo that dataminers can scrub to leak character models

[dense ginkgo]

maybe we’ll get a demo after the direct

[dull geode]

so weird how they forgot to announce it

[craggy basalt]

Me waiting for the gameplay leaks to be real:

[dense ginkgo]

gameplay leak?

[craggy basalt]

How often do leaks come out before release again? A week prior?

[dense ginkgo]

oh

i think days prior

[hoary oar]

Yea probably half a week

[dense ginkgo]

when the gamers take over the shipping truck of rtlddx copies days early

[tawdry cairn]

Usually, it's like a week

FL specifically leaked 3 days prior

[craggy basalt]

Ahhh the good ol days of people discovering Star Dream for the first time

[hoary oar]

FL leak earlier pls

[tawdry cairn]

I have the full game

[hoary oar]

HOW

[craggy basalt]

Every boss in FL leaked fast cus they all got their models in the gacha collection lol

[hoary oar]

Can ReDx leak 2 weeks early please

[tawdry cairn]

Pokemon vibes

Faye when it's 2 weeks before release this Friday

[craggy basalt]

Waiting for that Magolor Soul 2 leak

[hoary oar]

No but truly the most painful part of leak season is when the game has broken street date but hasn't been dumped

[craggy basalt]

Best part of the leak season is someone streaming the whole game and seeing the chat's reactions on the secret bosses lol

[hoary oar]

I don't know if ReDx being a remake where we know everything that happens for like the first 5 hours of gameplay will make that more or less painful

[craggy basalt]

That's why we gotta rely on text and model datamines for that juicy new info lmao

[hoary oar]

Yea that's what I'm saying

The painful point where the game hasn't been dumped

Even though its broken street date

[craggy basalt]

People were fast with the model dumps in FL. Fecto Forgo's model leaked pretty early

[tawdry cairn]

More

Granted there might be cool minor details like that one tree that now falls away in the monster flame section

Or maybe some magoland stuff

But when the mode everyone wants to see more of is postgame

[craggy basalt]

Magolor in Hell and the Truer Arena (if it exists lol)

[dull geode]

False Arena

[craggy basalt]

I'm hoping the True Arena has its own theme this time

[mellow snow]

Twitch streamers speedrunning the entirety of Story Mode so they can unlock ||Magolor Epilogue||

[compact mica]

Kirby rtdx Main story any % in 12 minutes

[scarlet ether]

don't forget music and text, music and text-related stuff were dumped pretty early

before the Forgo model at least

[compact mica]

Was this all during the period when the game came out somewhere 4 or so days before it was meant to?

[craggy basalt]

Seeing Chaos Elfilis' model for the first time was cool

[tawdry cairn]

Twitch streamers repeatedly trying an egg engines level (they keep missing the energy sphere after dubior)

[scarlet ether]

yeah, it was sometime before it officially released anywhere

[compact mica]

They forget to pick up stone in that one room and don't have Dedede as a partner

[hoary oar]

God the moment this game dumps I'm going to DM Leo every spoiler and get banned /s

[tawdry cairn]

[mellow snow]

https://tenor.com/view/sweat-gif-20377139

[scarlet ether]

I mean I doubt they would 100% it lol

[quaint osprey]

wouldnt doubt it honestly

[mellow snow]

But it would be funny to see them suffer

[quaint osprey]

replaying super star ultra now and theres so much added there that we take for granted now

[scarlet ether]

streamer I watched play Forgotten Land before release didn't 100%
but they did a bit of Treasure Roads

[hoary oar]

Twitch streamers going for an any% run and taking longer than a 100% run would

[craggy basalt]

Unless 100% story, extra, and the new stuff is required to unlock the super secret new arena with the true final boss

[quaint osprey]

either way if game breaks street date but doesnt get dumped in like. first day i think i will die

youtube will be ruined for a bit for sure

wanna get into epilogue as spoiler free as possible

[scarlet ether]

the only thing 100% has been required to unlock something really is Robobot lol

[hoary oar]

I can't wait to watch twitch streamer nintendodarksonic2008 die to mr. dooter three times

[quaint osprey]

me: good thing that rtdx is a remake i wont have to worry about spoilers anymore :))

funny hal laboratories:

[scarlet ether]

original RTDL had it so you had to have a high percent to unlock Extra, but it was just around 70%

[tawdry cairn]

That one 4chan guy who streams every leaked game dying 5 times to lor (it now has 20% of its original hp)

[mellow snow]

Shoutout to that one Twitch streamer who couldn't dodge roll Sillydillo's attacks

[tawdry cairn]

Skill check

[scarlet ether]

thank god my streamer is actually good at games lmao

only took a few tries at Chaos Elfilis

[hoary oar]

Wait if you die 69 times to a boss in FL does the game do anything special besides the usual health reduction and asking you to switch to spring breeze mode

[quaint osprey]

wait huh

i guess thats another thing they will probably change LOL

what is the lowest percent of main mode you can have but still beating the game

[compact mica]

You only needed like 30 spheres or something for it

[quaint osprey]

weird requirement tbh

[compact mica]

We bumbled around on our first playthrough and didn't get extra

[quaint osprey]

yeah i dont like this lol

i hope whatever take on extra mode (and epilogue) they will have wont be tied to energy spheres

especially since game never makes it clear

(like i never knew that until today)

[compact mica]

Do Robobot and Deluxe make you get a certain amount of Spheres?

[quaint osprey]

thing with them

[bleak geyser]

no

[quaint osprey]

is that there is certain amount that you will end up having either way due to boss requirements

but i think that even if you did minimal run you still end up unlocking post game modes

[compact mica]

Oh yeah I forgot

[scarlet ether]

around 51%?

[quaint osprey]

wild

[scarlet ether]

might be lower

[bleak geyser]

i think you get the haltmann sticker if you have all the cubes

[tawdry cairn]

It is 70%

[quaint osprey]

i can see not going for a lot of energy spheres if you were to play in co op

[tawdry cairn]

According to wikirby

[quaint osprey]

because it might be frustrating lol

[compact mica]

Yeah that's true

Sectonia for tdx

[bleak geyser]

yea

[scarlet ether]

yeah to unlock Extra Mode, I meant for just completing Main Mode

[quaint osprey]

actually now that i think about it

in rtdx they will add a special mask for collecting all energy spheres wont they

[tawdry cairn]

Doomer mask? Magolor mask?

[bleak geyser]

i had 69 perfent when i did tdx after main story

[scarlet ether]

it will be of the final boss

[broken smelt]

kumazaki mask

[quaint osprey]

crowned magolor mask

peak fiction if true

[tawdry cairn]

Lor mask

[compact mica]

Soul Mask idk

[broken smelt]

i can finally play as a boat

[bleak geyser]

become the boat

[hoary oar]

You guys are dumb

Obviously

The mask for collecting all 120 energy spheres

[scarlet ether]

it will spoil the final boss (as always)

[hoary oar]

Will be an energy sphere mask

[quaint osprey]

IMAGINE

[bleak geyser]

hal logo mask

[tawdry cairn]

Dream hatcher mask

[bleak geyser]

play as dream catcher

[scarlet ether]

or it will just be Landia idk

[hoary oar]

dream hatcher mask but the dog is awake and staring into your soul

lol

[scarlet ether]

what about Lor Starcutter mask lmao

[quaint osprey]

lor starcutter mask is a funny concept

you can put it on a player and then piggyback them

[tawdry cairn]

Ye

[broken smelt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/886437659617144874/969054591792611338/lhWFhTLY.gif

[hoary oar]

Lor Starcutter mask but it's "Lor & Magolor" and the entire magolor wizard model is just floating above the Lor

[bleak geyser]

kirby with this on his face

[quaint osprey]

i can see that

[broken smelt]

looks very comfertable

[tawdry cairn]

Mt fuji mask

[bleak geyser]

the nest is his face

[tawdry cairn]

That one stone buff dude mask

[compact mica]

With Boxboy sitting on top

[bleak geyser]

JOBSKI THO

[errant perch]

https://youtu.be/GZ2dCW36kuU

[bleak geyser]

dont forget about the homie

[broken smelt]

isnt obama mentioned in the dream collection

[bleak geyser]

yes

[broken smelt]

where's his mask

[compact mica]

In Return To Dreamland Deluxe coming February 24

[bleak geyser]

that is gonna be a mod

please

obamna kirby

[tawdry cairn]

The Obama mask with sfx

[broken smelt]

let me be clear

[bleak geyser]

yes we can

so is george bush

we can have both

don't forget bill clinton

the president dlc

[compact mica]

What about Nixon

[bleak geyser]

nixon wasnt mentioned

[compact mica]

He's gonna be there as nostalgia bait for the classic fans though

[bleak geyser]

oh my god

the 4 heroes of yor

[quaint osprey]

thinking

if game is supposedly gonna be easy to mod as fl

will masks be easy to change too

[bleak geyser]

the president trilogy

[quaint osprey]

i can see this going in insane shitposting directions

[bleak geyser]

kirby bill clinton

Kirby jfk clone high

mask

we can also have danica patrick

just like that sonic game

the possibilitys are endless

[broken smelt]

@ faye

[compact mica]

You're faye

[broken smelt]

guess i am

[bleak geyser]

we can have bochii kirby just like faye

[compact mica]

I don't even know what bochii Kirby even is

[bleak geyser]

fayes icon on discord is bocchi from bocchi the rock

[compact mica]

A

[bleak geyser]

but man the mods are gonna be wild

just from the masks alone

truley we need a mask for best kirby

[compact mica]

I wonder if SA characters would be able to be moded in

[bleak geyser]

this kirby as a mask

[tawdry cairn]

Tbh most if not all of the important ones are probably gonna be in anyways lol

[bleak geyser]

plays the magolor epiloge as fran

[broken smelt]

i hope void termina gets a mask

the heart mask

[tawdry cairn]

I hope we get both that and the funny orb

[bleak geyser]

but also circle void

[broken smelt]

yeah both

[cloud pasture]

Which one of the funny orbs tho

Story, Soul, Astral

[quaint osprey]

it will be a special mask

that constantly changes expression

[tawdry cairn]

It could just be all

[cloud pasture]

YES

[compact mica]

Wait

[cloud pasture]

Based

[broken smelt]

filler space

need all of them

[bleak geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-void-soul-gif-25810339

[compact mica]

||I hope that you can give Dead Magolor a mask||

[broken smelt]

perhaps

[bleak geyser]

astral void in the happy face would be cute

the face he makes when you beat him

[broken smelt]

i was about to say ||ghost magolor|| could be a recolour for him if he's playable but then i remembered only kirby gets recolours

[bleak geyser]

but manager magolor is so gonna be a mask

that feels like a given

[vague vector]

Me when I speed through the game with wing

[bleak geyser]

SCREW THE MAIN GAME GET TO THE LORE

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-fast-walking-gif-14916490

fans getting to the funny lore

the magolore

[compact mica]

||I have a feeling Magolor is going to be used more after rtdx||

[quaint osprey]

Hopefully

Im all for variety in main cast

[mighty breach]

Fifth gang member let's go

[broken smelt]

i hope all of the cast is used more

[compact mica]

I mean ||Making a whole mode on him is kinda just cementing him as a big shot||

Found family and their dodgy uncle

[dense ginkgo]

replace bandana dee with magolor as the fourth main character

[compact mica]

No

[mighty breach]

I think Magolor works pretty well as a suport character to the four main adventurers of the gang

[dense ginkgo]

[compact mica]

Magolor is guy number 5

[quaint osprey]

He does

He literally is into lore shit and has a cool interglactic travelling ship

[broken smelt]

magolor taranza and susie can be a trio of their own

[quaint osprey]

He's useful

[compact mica]

Magolor is a walking mcguffin waiting to be used

[dense ginkgo]

bandana dee could be relegated to dedede support

[broken smelt]

no!!

never

[compact mica]

A fucking wizard
Has a ship that can teleport anywhere
Is informed of alot of ancient history

[quaint osprey]

Taranza pls get better friends

[broken smelt]

he deserves better

[compact mica]

Magolor is alright by himself as a friend probably

[broken smelt]

both of them kinda suck

[dull geode]

Goomba with a hat

[compact mica]

Susie or Marx probably make him worse